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Guest Post: In The US, Democracy Is Now A Sham
Submitted by 'Ray' via ClubOrlov blog,
The founding principle for this new form of government which emerged in the 18th century, was that the Common Man was the ultimate source of power. Citizen legislators would enact the laws and shape the nation’s destiny. But instead, our republic is now strong-armed by professional politicians. The two dominant concerns of these careerists are to STAY in power and to do the bidding of those who ENABLE them to stay in power. Anyone who doubts this statement might try explaining why campaign finance reform and term limits are perennially “off the table.” Actually, that is an understatement - they aren’t even in the building.
It is bad enough that the President, Congress and the Courts serve the interests of a minority that is so tiny that it is almost microscopic. What is even worse, is WHO that elite constituency is. It is exclusively THE BIGS: Big banks, Big corporations, Big agriculture, Big energy, Big pharmaceuticals, Big health care, Big high tech and the BIGGEST of them all - the military-industrial complex.
The “Vox Populi” – voice of the people is now as quaint and outmoded as telephone booths on street-corners. Even when there is a massive outpouring of disapproval for a policy - such as the enormous public outcry against Iraq Invasion 2 – the will of the people is disregarded. Instead, the “leaders” kiss the sterns of their financial backers. Ten million irate citizens cannot offset a single Halliburton.
But not only has genuine democracy vaporized, its putrid carcass is used against the ordinary person for whom it was initially conceived. Our demagogues give stirring speeches applauding our inalienable rights and the freedoms that our constitution protects. But at the same time, they barely whimper when a whistle blower reveals that the surveillance grid that is monitoring our behavior is beyond the wildest imaginings of Orwell or Huxley. And when the head of the Department of Omnipresent Surveillance admits that he lied to Congress, he is not prosecuted for perjury. Amazingly, he doesn’t even lose his job.
When the President signs the NDAA act which allows for “indefinite detention” of citizens without formal charges or without the right to a lawyer, it should be utterly clear that the boot of Soft-Core Tyranny is now on our neck. And that unchecked and almost unnoticed power continues to grow at an obscene pace. Examples of this are the militarization of small town police departments, the unending malignant growth of the Department of Homeland Security and the cessation of Posse Comitatus which keeps the military from being used as a domestic police force.
But even though our career politicians only represent the rich and the powerful, and even though they abet the steady erosion of our constitutionally ordained rights, it is even worse! That’s because despite making a mockery of democracy at home, they trumpet its virtues abroad. This is shameful Hypocrisy with a capital H.
What they are really trying to spread is not Democracy but Predatory Capitalism. They want to expand the sphere of influence of their financial backers who want greater market share in more and more markets. They do this through subtle intrusion via the IMF and the World Bank. Concurrent with this, they embrace the most corrupt and brutal local politicians they can find. The saying “He may be a genocidal dictator, but he’s OUR genocidal dictator” is not a punch-line in a joke. It is standard operating procedure for U.S. foreign policy. If this kinder, gentler approach fails, then the next steps are assassination or invasion. So the spreading of democracy leaves death, mutilation and destruction in its wake.
So, in conclusion, it appears to me that America is no longer a world-wide exemplar of how to sculpt a civilized society. Instead, it is far down the road to becoming a full-blown Corporate Police State. It has fallen so tragically, that it is now just a self-deluded leper strutting about the global stage - unaware that the theater has already emptied.
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Democracy isn't a sham. It is exactly what it has always been. A tool used by populist leaders to overpower their opposition. Mob rule.
Democracy, 2 wolves and a sheep voting what's for dinner.
...or "Bobblehead Representation"...
It's called "hypocracy", not "democracy"...
A simple question: what's the difference between a democracy and a republic?
The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.
Alexis de Tocqueville
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.
-- Ben Franklin
Anybody who believes in the legitimacy of mob rule deserves the skull-fucking they are about to receive.
How can statists be SOOOOOOO thick?
USA Democracy is Now a Sham-WoW
I remember the sham-wow commercials with that dude with spiked hair.
The one that died of a cocaine overdose? He was high as a kite on all those commercials.
We are supposed to have a representative democracy - not a true democracy.
No, democracy, as was stated above, is mob rule — i.e., the tyranny of the majority — as evidenced by the largesse it has voted for itself for many decades in this country, and ruinously so.
A republic, on the other hand, protects the rights of the individual first and foremost (the afterthought that was the Bill of Rights), thus nullifying mob rule.
That was the idea, anyway, the fatal flaw residing in the entity entrusted with enforcing said protections:
http://www.barefootsworld.net/nockoets0.html
And all this time I thought Paine was his surname.
The DaddyO's go back a long way, don't ya know...
DaddyO
The weeping cheeto is at it again:
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2014/04/08/john-boe...
there is a reason the word democracy is nowhere to be found in our republic's constitution.
Here, chew on this for awhile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdS6fyUIklI
DaddyO
The fatal flaw is Human Nature. THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS.
The Republic has FAILED. I am sorry. It is tragic. The Great Experiment has been an abysimal failure and there will be NO RECOVERY.
That is the reality and you had best understand it and accept it for your own prosperity.
"The fatal flaw is human nature."
Bullshit fundamentalist nihilism. We are naturally peaceful creatures hardwired to, in Adam Smith's words, "truck, barter, and exchange" to our mutual benefit.
"The Republic has FAILED. I am sorry. It is tragic. The Great Experiment has been an abysimal failure and there will be NO RECOVERY."
You got that right.
"That is the reality and you had best understand it and accept it for your own prosperity."
Yes, and as I said, that means understanding who the real enemy is:
http://www.barefootsworld.net/nockoets0.html
You are indeed a dick buttkiss if you believe all human "creatures" are "naturally peaceful." Most of the people are, and have always been, extremely short-sighted morons. What needs to be learned is that power is almost always held by people who are no better, maybe worse.
As the Indian poet Rabindranath Tagor said, "Men are cruel; man is kind."
Which is to say that while cruelty is found in humans, it is not our species' nature, the state being our enemy for the simpe reason that its nature is cruelty (the more so the better it's disguised), attracting the basest among us and corrupting the rest, thus centralizing and thereby intensifying human cruelty vastly more than would otherwise be the case.
Oddly enough, I find myself agreeing with a person named Dick Buttkiss...
It's the state that can kiss my ass, everywhere and always.
Society I kiss on the lips, as much as possible but only insofar as it wants me.
Thus, and only thus, does our relationship develop to our mutual benefit.
'Americans' cant get out of the cocoon of fantasy they weave to shield them from reality.
Majority rule in the US? What turn out rate?
The thing is that 'american' nations have been governed by 'americanism'. 'Americanism' have not changed one bit. It is just the plain old same as it was at the beginning.
'Americans' simply cant handle that fact.
NotTooImportant...You are full of crap.
He did not die of a Cocaine Overdose. He is still quite alive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Offer
obviously he had the guy confused with Billy Mays but why the hostility? he got the guys confused which makes him not full of crap but just wrong.
i figured this out almost instantly but didn't feel the need to insult.
Another dual citizenship holder? Interesting.
US style democracy worked as long as the government was limited, both in terms of a constitutional box which limited its powers and a tax structure that limited its funding.
US democracy failed the day the tax structure changed. Now the government could bribe the public with freebies and create dependancy. We are complaining about the outcome today, but need to understand that this outcome was enabled and pre-determined 100 years ago when the box was opened.
You are referring to the bypass of asking the people for additional revenue through taxes. When a rich uncle form Mars can give unlimited money at low interest, what's not to like. The path of least resistance always works in the human nature equation.
Democracy failed on April 9th, 1865 at about 4pm. This was the day General Robert E Lee surrendered to General Ulysses S Grant in Appomattox Virginia at the house of Wilmer McLean.
You now have the exact date, place and time that the Federal Government would begin its assault on the freedoms of now every American, not just those citizens of the South as during the war of Northern Aggression.
+1000
I tend to agree with you almost 99%....but still have 1% in me that thinks it started on July 4, 1776.....the day our country was founded was the day various people started their efforts to find a way to 'control' it. Just my $0.02.
In the US, politicians are elected by WeThePeople aka the 'american' middle class, the only one there is a big incentive to bribe.
Poors do not vote and rich are not numerous enough to sway the vote.
Ever here of Diebold? The 'Rich' have way more sway than you realize.
DaddyO
"You're gonna love my nuts!" - Vince
4636920 see above Latina Lover
It is exclusively THE BIGS: Big banks, Big corporations, Big agriculture, Big energy, Big pharmaceuticals, Big health care, Big high tech and the BIGGEST of them all - the military-industrial complex.
You exclusively forgot the thugeryist of them all the Big Unions.
And the final exclusive BIG FUCK OFF!
yes, the massive union of lobbyist that descend on Washington daily is a huge problem.
a well run and fair company would NEVER unionize and that's why professional sports athletes had no choice but to form a union.
OT, i wonder how much the hedge gets paid for those auto start commercials that run on the side of the screen THAT I NEVER WATCH AND HAVE TO MUTE MY SOUND BECAUSE OF.
Democracy: 51% can tell 49% what to do and/or "I thought you were in charge."
Republic: Individual is protected through rule of law.
In the (as conceived) American republic -- it was recognized that human beings have individual rights granted to them by their Creator. These rights cannot be taken by those in government or voted away.
Such propagandists as Bernays said that they would manipulate the public to 'think' and vote in whatever manner the hidden powers wanted. For this reason they have attacked true education and used the media against the American people for over a century. They are traitors to the principles of the nation and the US Constitution. They are a plague on humanity around the world.
all for the low low price of _____. you can have your politician today, and if you act now....
Both negroes and Indians were human beings. The story is known.
'Americanism' has not changed one bit since its inception on 1776, July, 4th.
The world is now the result of 'americanism'.
Uhm no; there's this thing called principle of consensual democracy, providing protection for the 49% from your example, meaning the 51% can't get it their own way.
Rule of law, as a principle (a dead word on a piece of paper), exists in republics as well as democracies.
<---------FSA! FSA! FSA! <cough/unions> FSA! FSA! FSA! FSA!
<---------K-Street is the best street! K-Street is the best Street!
"Democracy" is a win! win!
See?
What exactly are you basing this misguided perception of reality on?
USA was never a democracy? Since your Constitution has never been changed since its inception, tell me how did people get to elect their representatives in 1800 or 1900 and how did they make sure the majority wolves (51%) didn't get to decide over the minority sheep (49%)?
USA was a federal democratic republic, but in reality you people (like every other nation) only kept the name and abandoned the status & principles the same moment you allowed TPTB to strip you of the right to impeach your representatives, resulting in today's corrupt system of revolving doors, where checks and balances only works as a means for achieving personal lust for power. You claim that USA is a republic, not a democracy, and here I am claiming that you have neither.
You've been sold a pig with a ton of make up. It is not the name that counts, but people's determination to defend their individual rights and freedoms. With avery day passing by, you have less of both.
Addendum I: the only difference between democracy and republic is a linguistic one, where the first derives from old greek language and the second one from latin. Not unlike schoolboys arguing which of the gods is stronger - Neptune of Poseidon...
Addendum II: if you compare Swiss democracy vs. USA republic, which of the two systems provides a better protection of individual rights and freedoms?
For the record we did not junk you, even though you called us terrible names for attempting to answer this very question a few weeks ago.
You seem to overlook that in a democracy every law can be changed by the majority in the blink of an eye (OK, in a few rare cases a 2/3 super-majority.)
Yeah, internationally we get the controlled 2 party democratic voting scam and each year a million micro legislative changes introduced far too numerous to track or read; incrementally property rights and every other right is 'democratized' for the good of the national or global community.
IMO- Democracy is the slow route to dictatorship requiring the participation of largely progessive thinkers managed by Tavistock controlled media, education, social issues and a few false flags.
Its the same in all democratic nations.
Oh? Whereas in a Republic laws are changed by dictator's edict (commonly known as executive orders). Funny that you point at democracy's disadvantages without comparing them to republic's countering solutions (hint: they're both identical).
Riddle me this malek: how was the Coinage Act (The Crime) of 1873 passed in the USA Republic?
[edited for your increased pleasure]
Don't play dumb on me.
First of all in a democracy any law can be changed in any way the majority pleases to, while in a republic the most basic laws cannot be changed and more specific laws can be added or changed but cannot contradict the basic ones.
Secondly it seems you would first need to riddle how the USA was a still republic in 1873, more than in-name-only.
The Civil War was definitely the end of "a republic, if you can keep it"
'Americans' have understood this a long time, the formation of the demos, claiming that democracy is mobrule (ochlocracy) is one trick used by 'americans' to shield themselves from reality.
'Americans' love drugs, they have done more for drugs than any other people since dawn of times.
Fabled past is one of these drugs: they need to invent things, they need to rewrite history in order to avoid letting out the conclusion that 'americanism' has not changed.
For 'americans' and their fabled past, 'americanism' got changed somewhere sometime down the road. It is not possible for them to admit that the world is now governed by 'americanism'.
Nothing, both involve governments and therefore both are forms of enslavement.
In a republic only those who have a vested interest in the success of the nation are allowed to vote. Welfare queens, drug addicts etc. don't have voting rights. Even so a republic can turn out to be as bad as a democracy which allows a popular vote. They both require an abundance of good people to succeed.
Any evidence that the welfare queens, the drugs addicts etc vote in the US in such way they can sway the elections?
All this is just a mantra by the 'american' middle class to muster middle class voters.
In the US, as it is in 'american' country, elections are determined by the middle class.
The poor do not vote and the rich are not numerous enough to sway the vote. They have to buy to get their ways in.
Congress has a 12% approval rating and a 90% attrition rate. Who's fault is the decline of this nations leadership really? .gov or we the people?
CONGRESS has a 90% attrition rate? I'm calling Bullshit on that, much as I wish it were true. (But I didn't junk you, FWIW.)
Pretty sure he meant "re-election" rate.
We can only wish 90% of US Congress went Sucidal every year, that would be HOPE&CHANGE we could all believe.
What is the voter turnout in these elections? When the people aren't given a real choice (candidates selected by party or upper level elites) this is what you get.
A republic is a government of limited and proscribed powers, but, ah....that's all water under the bridge. So, do as you are shaped to do, or both you and your dog get shot.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. H L Mencken.
In my simple head, Democracy is mob rule. In a republic the rights of the few are protected from that same mob.
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I choose "food stamp democracy". People tend to vote for their stomachs and their wallets. Whomever can scare the people the most, wins.
Sy or it just doesn't work the same in the end.
Look on the positive side: all the 'freedoms' that we once enjoyed are gone courtesy of Patriot Acts 1&2, NDAA, executive orders etc, but at least you can marry your same sex buddy, smoke dope and then butt fist each other.
As my dear departed mother used to say, "Every cloud has a silver lining"
Anyway, nice Avatar again. I relax.
/ since 911 we lost not only all freedoms, but also good laugh!
Go around and ask young people which of those issues they care most about.
We're so fucked.
Those "freedoms' are the newly sanctioned act-out items, under the category of non-traditional norms. But don’t try any pro-norm thinking as was suspected of Brendan Eich, co-founder of Mozilla (Firefox). That’ll cost you your livelihood and career.
As everyone knows, Eich contributed to the traditional marriage initiative in California, supported by a majority of Californians. But his real crime is not so obvious; it has to be imagined, you have to imagine that he holds hate in his mind and as one headline explained, in the San Francisco Chronicle of all places, Internet is Tolerant: Agree or Get Out.
Chronicle columnist, Debra J. Saunders, writes: “I am struck by the cultural ignorance of the get-Eich mob. In her Pravda-like blog, Chairwoman (Mitchell) Baker asserted that Mozilla welcomes contributions from everyone regardless of age, ethnicity, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation and ‘religious views.’ But if someone’s religion opposes same-sex marriage, and that someone donated $1000 to Prop. 8, he cannot be CEO.
…in America, as opposed to totalitarian countries, people are not supposed to lose their livelihoods because they voted a certain way or personally donated to a campaign.”
The Mozilla event demonstrates a striking reversal of the relationship between freedom and virtue.
Amy L. Sherman writing in The Freeman on Markets in the Post-Cold War Era: Controlled or Free? says of Moral Decay:
“The American Founding Fathers and latter-day philosophers of freedom have long recognized a connection between virtue and freedom. Even Thomas Jefferson, who was not so influenced by orthodox Christianity as, say, James Madison and George Washington, affirmed that “the practice of morality” was vital “for the well-being of society. A sense of ‘internal constraints’ was necessary for life together in a free society if liberty were not to become license."
Says Sherman: “The final factor checking an ‘inevitable’ triumph of free markets may appear tangential, but it is central. It is, for lack of a better term, ‘moral decay’ in the industrialized world and particularly in the United States…
“Problems that are really ‘moral-cultural’ in nature come to be identified as economic in nature, and calls for greater regulation and state control follow.”
http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/markets-in-the-post-cold-war-era-controlled-or-fre
That was a good post, JR. I don't know how much love you're going to get with that here (though I could be surprised, and often am).
I think I can help pin-point where this all started going downhill (a comment I've made several times on ZH): When all time-tested conservative ideas were lost in academia, we lost everything else along with it. It's just now we're seeing the effects of that loss in ways so obvious it can no longer be denied.
To convert citizens into Consumers moral decay is apparently both effective and required.
George Bernard Shaw, who described himself as a “Communist,” confirms your observation, NoDebt. I was just reading about him...
George, it turns out, was one of the small group of English intellectuals who formed the Fabian Society in 1884, differing with Marx only over how the revolution would be accomplished in 1901. Wrote Shawin Who I Am, What I Think:
“Marx’s Capital is not a treatise on Socialism; it is a jermiad against the bourgeoisie…it was supposed to be written for the working class; but the working man respects the bourgeoisie and wants to be a bourgeoisie; Marx never got hold of him for a moment. It was the revolting sons of the bourgeoisie itself, like myself, that painted the flag Red. The middle and upper middle classes are the revolutionary element in society; the proletariat is the conservative element.”
On that basis, writes Stormer in None Dare Call It Treason, “Shaw and the Fabians worked for world revolution not through an uprising of the workers but through indoctrination of young scholars. The Fabians believed that eventually these intellectual revolutionaries would acquire power and influence in the official and unofficial opinion-making and power-wielding agencies of the world. Then, they would quietly establish a socialistic, one-world order.
“(Sidney) Webb called it the ‘doctrine of the inevitability of gradualness’ – each change so gradual that the masses never awaken in time to stop the ‘inevitable.’”
Rejecting all suggestions of a political movement, the Fabians “planned to spread their influence by penetrating existing educational institutions, political parties, the civil service, etc. As a starting point, the Webbs established the London School of Economics…the intellectual center of the Fabian Socialist Movement…”
Now, they dominate America's schools, universities, press, public sector unions, Holllywood, the State Department... the aftermath has been millions dead and billions enslaved... and, it appears, more to come.
And a bankster eating them both.
It's supposed to be a Republic, but I liked what the post conveyed. All this crap could come down to something as simple as a career politician or multiples thereof.
It doesn't matter to its victim if government is tyranny of one or a tyranny of the majority.
I thought we already had a Brandon Smith?
We never really understand that we are living under a police state style of oppression until we actually feel the boot on our neck. Until then it is just some poor unlucky sucker who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
the USA used to be the most fertile ground for capital in the world. When the Constitution and the Bill of rights were supported by the Rule of Law. Lasted about 188 years or so.
Today capital is worthless in the USA
yup
3 wolves and 2 sheep voting on what's for dinner. Fuck democracy. Fuck government.
That's the reason we don't have a democracy in the spirit of ancient Rome. Instead, we have a democratic republic. Representative democracy is meant to mitigate the rule of the mob (which is what is referenced in your handy yet out of context quote).
The USA was NEVER...NEVER...NEVER set up as a "Democratic Republic".
This is the type of outright POLITICAL IGNORANCE that has removed all hope.
The USA was set up as a REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC.
Initially the way that it was set up is that the ONLY PERSON YOU VOTED FOR WAS YOUR UNITED STATES REPRESENTATIVE.
It was a REPRESENTATIVE Republic. That term has a DIRECT MEANING.
You did NOT vote for President. (Responsibility of the Electorial College)
You did NOT vote for your US Senator. (Responsibility of the State Government Houses to appoint US Senators)
It was totally corrupted by the populist movement of the late Nineteenth and Early Twentieth Centuries.
There is no hope due to the OUTRIGHT FUCKING IGNORANCE of the Electorate...YOU INCLUDED.
I only regret that I have but one green arrow to give for your post.
When it comes to democracy I'm with Lysander Spooner - "The principle that the majority have a right to rule the minority, practically resolves all government into a mere contest between two bodies of men, as to which of them shall be masters, and which of them slaves; a contest, that—however bloody—can, in the nature of things, never be finally closed, so long as man refuses to be a slave."
We're still number one in drone kills of children........but don't worry it'll NEVER come back to us someday.....you know karma doesn't apply to us, we're killin' terrorists
It will absolutely come back. Apparently the rest of the world has finally figured out that dollars aren't needed. Not today, and not tomorrow, but a lot sooner than most people think.
In case you missed it .PBoC announced 3/29 full convertability of yuan within Shanghai
free trade zone effective this June.One year earlier than originally planned.
Democracy may be a sham but the United States is a fucking REPUBLIC! Now don't fucking forgot that even if it is rayciss or sexist!
It is government that is evil, not its name.
Name is only a form; you can call it Galactic Empire if you please so, it wouldn't mean a squat as long as you let "leaders" shit on the principles of the country's founding fathers.
Republic - derives from the latin res publica meaning public affair or sphere of interest; translated into plain english it means "a governmant of the people, by the people and for the people".
Sorry Cornhole but the US changed to a democracy when we adopted the popular vote for US senators. They used to be chosen by the state legislators as in a republic.
All I have to say is 10% approval, 90% incumbancy.
thats because despite the 10% approval, most people who say things like "throw all the bums out" also say things like "sure, congress as a whole sucks and should be replaced, but MY guy in my district is ok"
That, plus with the way the districts are gerrymandered by both sides
Its a democratically elected Red and Blue tag team working hard to make all the money they can for their financial masters.
"thats because despite the 10% approval, most people who say things like "throw all the bums out" also say things like "sure, congress as a whole sucks and should be replaced, but MY guy in my district is ok"
retreds. I hate my guy.
of course I'm in MN and have Franken and klobouchar in US Sen...
Sure sign we are truly wholly EFFED!
All the democracy and freedom you want, just don't get in the way of the real power.
They're dangerous.
Didn't some ethical Romans bitch about this a few thousand years ago as well?
Nothing is more unreliable than the populace, nothing more obscure than human intentions, nothing more deceptive than the whole electoral system.
Marcus Tullius Cicero "Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome, interpreted to mean 'more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.'" Marcus Tullius CiceroHoly shit that could have been written about the Half Black Cracker.
I just want to know why won't they die? Do they drink stem cells from dead fetuses for lunch every day? Egad, look at them. Look at Bush I or Cheney! Look at the Senate! MY GOD, WHY WON'T EVEN ONE OF YOU FUCKERS DIE ALREADY??
when warren buffet dies the dow will be up 1,000 points in his honor.
Good Lord can you imagine the mourning on CNBS? The wall to wall month long coverage would be so painful to watch that MSNBC might be more bearable in comparison.
great news btw
http://nypost.com/2014/04/08/snowden-i-dont-have-a-cache-of-state-secrets/
I mean Fonz, they did believed in "Eternal life"
Read the poor Ray Kurzweil, or check the news about Human genome. God, this was sooo hot in 2000. Since then, all quiet.
I also suspect, that this was part of the blackmail/promise package to politicians/key decision makers etc... In recent past.
It still might "work" in scientologic dead heads like Yatsenyk ( he is scientlogghead)
Nono guys, you wont live forever. Cryo is dead. Tissues degrade fast. New hearts is just temporary solution. ( cheyney)
You will die. Painfully. Your brains will go mad. Enjoy it.
Because you bastards, you are afraid to die!
/end of message to TPTB
Hey Fonz, they'll probably do a 21 gun salute on the blowhorn CNBS when Buffett dies...
When technology finally finds a cure for death they'll be here forever. Scary thought isn't it?
I wonder what Hillary will look like at 300 or 400 years old. Then again Bill will probably want to accelerate that "Till death do we part" clause...
Whatever the other changes, the cankles will be even more ... eeeewwwwwwwwwww.
- Ned
Life extension at that point would likely have you looking like your 20s or 30s self rather than some wrinkled mass.
Human growth hormone harvested from live 'donors'. Too pricey for plebes.
Larry Niven did that story as a young lad, breaking away...
Why? Because...
Nietzsche is dead!
God.
I am sure none of them have obama care dregs.
Notes on Democracy by H.L. Mencken. Read it.
and Bierce, and Toquville(sp?), and Emerson
Menken said that 'one day Americans will get the government that they deserve' (paraphrased)...
It's happened.
Étienne de la Boétie, François-Marie Arouet
The Party Rages on till Taco Bell runs out of Horse Meat. Then All Bets off.
they have probably been using rat meat, pink slime and sawdust for decade already...
Silly me, I already thought burritos were donkey meat.
DC US is a criminal sham. Nothing but schemes and scams.
Let's see:
Damn shame.
Check.
How long did it take you to figure this out? Don't you recall, "Gunboat Diplomacy", from the history books? Don't you recall the rape of Haiti by Wodrow Wilson, where he literally put a US Marine with a gun to the back of the head of every legislator in the Hatian Parliament to force them to sell their country to his crony capitalist buds? Don't you remember how Douglas McArthur moved up the ranks of the US Army due primarily to his willingness to put protesting WW 1 Vererans to the sword to clear the Mall in DC? Don't you recall how that same McArthur gained fame and fortune for torturing countless Phillipino nationalist guerillas to death to savagely put down their rebellion against US corporate rape of their country?
All that has changed is the brutal corporate giant that is the USA is now in the final stages of exhaustion. The lies are getting a bit tattered about the edges. The only reason most US citizens are worried is that they fear their Facist Corporate State is failing - so they might not get their cut of the action anymore.
The hollywood myth of the caring, kind, christian US Citizen is pure crap. Nothing but propaganda. All the atrocities commitied against mankind by the Corporatist Fascist State over the last 150 years have been done with the tacit approval of the entire population of the USA. Stop kidding yourself. We deserve whatever judgement history eventually lays upon us. Each and every one of us.
Blame everyone equally, after all "it's only fair".
I call bullshit, you cannot simultaneously call people sheeple, plebs, slaves, etc then lay blame on them for the actions of the slavemasters.
The greed, theft, and control of information as well as a cleverly disguised ILLEGAL monetary system, has been deliberatly carried out by a knowledgable elite, who have used guile, fraud, and cunning to advance their own adgenda at the expense of ALL mankind.
SOME ARE MORE AT BLAME THAN OTHERS HERE.
Failure to Place blame where it belongs, while heaping guilt on the masses underpins Catholic Church policy, UN climate policy, "Social justice policy" and will not work here at ZH.
Long history of False Flags helped con people into agreeing to the desires of TPTB.The fact the false flags are required is perhaps evidence that people do not lust for war crimes.
Useful idiots are promoted and protected by TPTB's. They are usually from the socio-pathic pool of the population and hard for most people to comprehend.
But yes chickens come home to roost - TPTB want the destruction of most western populations and industry; the USA has been a useful tool and will now be cut down to the size and state they desire.
Pleeeze look here on ZH the majority still believe that fairy-tale of a DEBT funded taxpayer based gubmint.
What fucking BULLSHIT since 1972 the USA is a FAUX FIAT to INFINITY print money for free, USD is backed by MURDER and every ameriKKKan citizen plays the "EMPERORS new clothes game"
The MAJORITY of american's 100% back MURDER for FSA, ... they love to see Brown's, Yellow's be DRONED at schools and weddings.
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Shit everyday there is a post on ZH about the stock market, or DEBT, or Taxation, or voting.
This is all BULLSHIT, there is ONLY FREE FIAT coming out of UNCLE SAM's ass and BUYING off the world, ... and everybody goes along, and smiles and say's the NARRATIVE from the MSM.
Most people here (ZH) and on the street if you told them that ALL US SPENDING comes from a free money-tree they would think you were an alien.
""Pleeeze look here on ZH the majority still believe that fairy-tale of a DEBT funded taxpayer based gubmint.""
Really??
Maybe you should organise a straw poll, I could use some laughs...
"If you want to see the enemy, you must only look in the mirror"
RIGHT FUCKING ON, in the 1950 when everybody had a house, car, and money, a pool, and vacation, a stay at home wife, life was good and NOBODY said shit about the USA, cuz it was love it or leave it,...
Now the USA has gone FULL RETARD, and cops are beating old women and little girls, ... and ONLY because life ain't wonderful anymore is anybody questioning their government.
The USA was clever to SHARE the loot for the masses for years, and you can see they still do in the form of the FSA.
The problem is TRIFFENS DILLEMA, the JOBS all got exported, as symptom of reserve curency,...
Paradox indeed once upon a time every it ameriKKKan was king of his castle, ... now the cops say other wise and your all fucked.
But the WORLD has a memory, ...
I see NURNENBERG TRIALS and I see every ameriKKKan citizen to be strung up at the gallows until dead, cuz you all have it coming.
Been a sham for a LONG time.
The problem is that people don't know what real freedom means, and if they did they are too frightened to embrace it. They allow the state to make incremental intrusions into their lives based on fear or safety. Once they get used to that something else will come along and the sheep will demand more protection. Truth be told most people don't want to think for themselves and they want to be told what to do. Freedom is scary.
Boil the frog slowly. Freedom isn't scary, it's the responsibility to take care of you and yours. Oh wait...nevermind. (Sarc on) That's scary as hell! /sarc Fucking coward entitlement class.
The Macropulos thing.
Karel Capek.
Immortality is meaningless.
That is exactly the root of the problem and it is embedded in the human condition. When the point comes where men who know freedom and must remain free can no longer hide or camouflage themseves to do so they will have to stand and fight. The sheeple, who will always constitute a majority will be led in the fight by the very few who are inspirational, and being sheeple, they won't do the deep due diligence or have the understanding to discern the true nature of who is leading them. It was sheer blind luck America had some capable founding brothers to lead them to relative freedom, which they have now lost. Watch Russia, Putin and whoever backs him might be the real deal, I don't know, but he is the best freedom horse I see trotting around out there now. It is incumbent on each individual to commit to learning as much truth as possible and using it anyway he can. As the old song goes "freedom isn't free, you gotta pay the price, you gotta sacrifice, for your liberty".
I had to scramble to get to the 5 star rating for the truth of the title.
I think I prefer an anusocracy, or probably a breastocracy to what we have now.
Clinton versus Bush 2016.
They aren't even trying to hide it anymore
They say in 2016 we'll have a CUNTOCRACY once the cankled one gets office
You kidding? In 2016 it'll be Clinton/Bush. They want it fucking ALL.
Absolutely
No
Jeb
Please Jesus
No more Bush's
Dear God in Heaven
U.S. has been, for some time now a money-grubbing-bankster-sponsored gov't.
That exist to support these 2 groups.
- The 1% moneyed class.
- The 20% who are perpetually below the poverty line and are in need of perpetual state/federal support.
The only votes that ever counted historically, are votes cast with blades,bullets, money and drugs.
All other forms of voting are just meaningless empty forms of protest.
FACT
Thank you Hearts 'o Darkness
Hear, Hear! Well said. Totally concur with this person's well articulated thoughts.
Corporations as Human Beings enjoying all the rights BUT not all the obligations. A form of super human entity that is able to steamroller government with bribes and capture regulation entities by revolving doors. Any entity given such power will slowly but surely accumulate power beyond all legal restraint. Internationally, the USA and NATO are enforcers for Finance Capital. The big fight over Ukraine and Russia is over finance capitals right to move in a fram the populations and resources and influence civil governments in favor of corporate resource stripping. Where they don't succeed, they sow the seeds of civil war and social collapse. Either play our game and let us in, or we work to destroy you! This much is clear.
Yo, Jack, you say:
a) what rights?
b) what obligations?
do ya gotta' place somewhere in the world where these are enforced? Nyet, tovarich, me neither.
But I'd really like to know the specs on your fram ;-)
- Ned