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Where's Ukraine?
Only one out of six Americans could correctly locate Ukraine on a map of the world, but perhaps even more disconcerting, as The Washington Post reports, the farther their guesses were from Ukraine's actual location, the more they wanted the US to intervene with military force...
As The Washington Post reports,
Accuracy varies across demographic groups. In general, younger Americans tended to provide more accurate responses than their older counterparts: 27 percent of 18-24 year olds correctly identified Ukraine, compared with 14 percent of 65+ year-olds. Men tended to do better than women, with 20 percent of men correctly identifying Ukraine and 13 percent of women.
Interestingly, members of military households were no more likely to correctly locate Ukraine (16.1 percent correct) than members of non-military households (16 percent correct), but self-identified independents (29 percent correct) outperformed both Democrats (14 percent correct) and Republicans (15 percent correct). Unsurprisingly, college graduates (21 percent correct) were more likely to know where Ukraine was than non-college graduates (13 percent correct), but even 77 percent of college graduates failed to correctly place Ukraine on a map.
The proportion of college grads who could correctly identify Ukraine is only slightly higher than the proportion of Americans who told Pew that President Obama was Muslim in August 2010.
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The further our respondents thought that Ukraine was from its actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene militarily.
Even controlling for a series of demographic characteristics and participants’ general foreign policy attitudes, we found that the less accurate our participants were, the more they wanted the U.S. to use force, the greater the threat they saw Russia as posing to U.S. interests, and the more they thought that using force would advance U.S. national security interests; all of these effects are statistically significant at a 95 percent confidence level.
The results are clear, but also somewhat disconcerting:
The less people know about where Ukraine is located on a map, the more they want the U.S. to intervene militarily.
Still unclear.. here's a 2-minute explainer...
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Dumbass HOOOOOO!!
Thundercats.
Please tune in for your regularly scheduled programming.
RIPS
Everyone involved got participation trophies.
Arnt there Ukraines on most construction sights?
"The less people know about where Ukraine is located on a map, the more they want the U.S. to intervene militarily."
Stupid is as stupid does!
The MSM/MICC tell us if we wait to long it will be somewhere inside of Russia...
What can you expect from this society?
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/the-feminine-social-engineeri...
ori
But just today ORI, I was reading that women are only 9% of Wikipedia editors... Oh the humanity...
God forbid editors be chosen on merit. And sure, geography or geopolitics or history may not be their strong suits, but how well do you know your art history or women's history, hm?
HR, personally, I've just been one lucky SOB. One amazing ass-kicking woman after the other.
I was once married to a red-headed VW Bus driving Portland Amazon hippie at Vegas, in a Chapel, with a cowboy preacher, and it being the $120 dollar (as opposed to the $300) package, we got a rusbucket 1977 Ford stretch limo with dusty crystal and no champagne.
So, yup....
I know my women's history from having penetrated it deeply. ;-)
ori
I can't believe Hawai'i escaped that vote.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Take big drink of vodka and let vodka is decide for you!
"The proportion of college grads who could correctly identify Ukraine is only slightly higher than the proportion of Americans who told Pew that President Obama was Muslim in August 2010."
Well at least they got that one right.
Off topic but certainly topical: http://www.infowars.com/federal-snipers-train-guns-on-family-for-filming-cattle/ Feds gettin' serious with some ranchers in NV over the ranchers cattle.
If it doesn't start with an "i". they don't pay any attention.
Now ask them where iKrane is.
Better question: “Where is Crimea?”
Best answer:
Ball-sack hanging from Russia into the Black Sea with access to the Med (If you can ignore the straits of Bosporus and the rest of the dangerous voyage.
(that’s how I described it to the missus).
We have to invade Ukraine to find out where it is.
Nancy Piglosi
cool,. on the right track.. but maybe..
you have to reveal evil to start to figure it out.
This is getting too embarassing to endure much longer...
That's easy. Ukraine is in Russia
Ukraine is after "The" silly!
Didn't Star Trek cover this back in the late 60's?
I went with the laughing...
Cummon, be fair. If you think Ukraine is in Florida, of course you want the US to intervene militarily. Can't have the Russkies taking over Florida !! Which they would because Obama is weak and gay !!
If you actually know that Ukraine is a flat boring place on the opposite side of the world, never mind who cares.
If the Ruskies will kick the Porto Ricans out,
we can make a deal.
Crimea River...
War is God's way of teaching American's Geography.
Ambrose Bierce
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
Ambrose Bierce
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/ambrosebie164710.html#I4vo1hYDiiRoJrLM.99
War is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
Ambrose Bierce
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/ambrosebie164710.html#I4vo1hYDiiRoJrLM.99
I am sorry, can you please to repeat that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q_iqrvnC_4
Everybody all worried about You-kraine, You-kraine, what the hell bout MY-kraine, huh?
They spared Kenya as well.
This can't be right. There's at least 40 dots that aren't even on land. Mediterranean Sea, Arctic Ocean, how about the Hudson Bay, anyone?
Did they ask 4th graders? Don't answer that question.
Even more maddening is when people discuss what's happening in "The" Ukraine. It's like saying The Germany or The England.
Yeah, I agree. I also hate it when people put 'The' in front of 'United States'.
Or 'the' United Kingdom, or 'the' Peoples Republic of China, or 'the' Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, or 'the' Central African Republic, or 'the' Christmas Islands, or 'the' Democratic Republic of Congo, or 'the' Ivory Coast, or 'the' Dominican Republic, or 'the' Faroe Islands, or 'the' Republic of Korea, or 'the' Marshall Islands, or 'the' Russian Federation, or 'the' United Arab Emirates, or 'the' Vatican City...
putting "the" in front of any of these countries names is concrete proof that you don't know shit.
/sarc.
Get a fucking life. People can call it the Ukraine, just like it's OK to say the Sudan or the Congo or the Seychelles or the Philippines or the Maldives or the Lebanon or the Cameroon or the Bahamas.
Get a fucking clue you ignorant arrogant moron.
But you doesn't have to call me Johnson...
The United States is a plural entity comprised of 50 states in case you didn't know... therefore the defining article "the" is needed. Basic grammar.
Teknikcly speeking it depends on whether the reference is geographical in nature or ideological, if geographical the more correct reference is The United States of Amerika to properly identify the geographic association of an idiot collective; as well as clearly identifying the subject as existing in the physical realm so as not to be confused with various states of mental dysfunction as in the united states of lunacy and psychosis; which could understandably and legitimately could be used to identify the subject as being the entity commonly referred to THE US of A .......... sorry to be one of those stikler for teknikul corexness guys
Maybe some people think "Ukraine" is the modern name for The Lost City of Atlantis.
"Ukraine??? Oh, I thought you meant UConn..."
This can't be right. There's at least 40 dots that aren't even on land.
Maybe answering the survey involved dart throwing - the last refuge of the totally ignorant. If you don't know, throw a dart at the map.
Dumb-down system of educate is leave Amerkian cannot tell hole in barn from side of ass.
And yet tens of thousands are willing to bleed, get maimed or die for it.
Yet they won't lift a finger to clean House at home... e.g. DC or NY.
How ironic and pathetic is that!?
DRONE THEIR YOOK-IRANIAN ASS! - middle-finger-bearing SUV driver
I actually left the US because the dominant refusal to acknowledge US foreign policy's devestation ont he planet, even from the most educated class.
How could the Vietnam war ever be justified? Korea? Dresden? Hiroshima? NAGASAKI?
And then Afghanistaan, Iraq....I'd have the weirdest conversations. I saw how most big money were deeply Republican in their actions and liberal/democratic in their words.
I was told to "go home ingrate" so many times, for objecting to needless killing of AMericans.
Then there was the Doctor in Kentucky....whoa....four long island iced teas, and we took off....and FOX was blaring int eh background and my head was spinning with righteous anti-war indignation (this is 2002, Afghanis are getting it, Hellondemand!
Holy cow, this doctor had birthed so many farm boy "heroes", now dead or wounded and back and forth....
Wonder how he feels about it all now...
...
ori
And yet, Ori, I hope the one out of six will save your beautiful country.
LV, if there was no orchestrated war/strife, no one would need saving. And we can save our own beautiful country, I wish you would save yours. It is stunningly beautiful.
That what you said is a view of "manifest destiny" hubris.
ori
ORI, I know you realize this but many people don't; what I'm saying is that some of the wars, "actions" you mentioned above were necessary. But, they were only necessary after the global powers, especially the US but others as well, orchestrated events to make war the only seemingly sensible path to take. The reason I mention this is because it is obvious that 'they' are at it again. We will have war because it will seem to be the only thing we can do to save the country.
Yup TuP, a whole lot of stage setting going on fer shure!
ori
Bless you. Thank you for writing that.
You are assuming that those one in six picked the right spot by knowing it was the right spot. How many picked it by dumb luck? A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day and all that.
The amazing thing is the numbers who picked locations in North America. Either as dumb as rocks or just messing with the survey.
Re: Wonder how he feels about it all now.
He feels great. Because, the finest bullshit EVER created is created about "heroes" killed in righteous wars. And, the human brain is addicted to bullshit.
That's also why parents keep telling their kids bullshit about the past righteous wars, because it makes their brains feel as good as a crack-addict on crack.
Cue: slow motion eagle. Flag. Patriotic music. Patriot looking skyward, toward his imaginary-friend who loves his slow-motion eagle and flag as much as he does (oddly enough).
Until now, the war has been conducted with honor and bravery with the ideals of truth and justice in the best traditions of mankind... until this moment. Brothers and sisters, the endless catalog of beastie atrocities which will inevitably ensue from this appalling act must, can, and will be terminated. The forces of darkness and treasonable maggots who collaborate with them must, can, and will be wiped from the face of the Earth. We must crush them! We must smash them! We must stamp them out!
Year either wid us, rrrr again us!!
TO BE A WOARMONGER, OR NOT TO BE A WOARMONGER...LIFE IS SO SHORT.
http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm
Don't forget tho, the Blue Team loves Keynesian war toys as much as the Red Team.
I will admit that the (D)umbasses like war much less than the (R)etards but the (D)umbasses are generally New Testament people and the (R)etards are generally Old Testament people.
So, there's a Team creating bullshit for everybody, but the elite love kickin-ass.
don't kid yourself. Ds love war, as long as someone else is fighting it. they loved kosovo, libya, syria interventions... fdr was a d. same with wilson, kennedy, and johnson.
When Wilson, Kennedy, & LBJ were president,
the bellicose South was democratic.
LBJ & W were both Texans, and each was
backed by a congress dominated by southerners.
And if you don't get on board, we'll drone Democracy and Hope and Change into your asses like we've been doing overtime these last six years.
That Doc is probably just fine with the body & soul count. "Our troops are defending us, ya know."
The American 'education' system turns out moron drones including the technicians who are doctors, lawyers, and scientists. After years spent sitting in nice neat rows and only speaking up after raising their hand and given permission by 'teacher', few of them have questioned anything or had an original thought in their lives.
Because they were never taught to unperform!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XijsnujcFg
;-)
"Where's Uranus?"
51% of Americans point to their rear.
Dam, I'm kicking myself for getting it wrong. I did always think it was just outside Idaho.
This is a trick question. "Ukraine" is a body politic, and like all abstractions, exists NOWHERE in reality.
"All" abstractions? So when in your reality do two plus two not necessarily equal four?
When talking about Norway rats.
In this case two plus two will typically result in several thousand rats within a fairly short period of time.
The counter example is ice cubes.
In the second case two plus two will typically equal zero with a period of time dependent on ambient temperature.
just promise me you won't design any bridges, or attempt to balance any budgets; leave those things to engineers and Norwegian 'rats', respectively.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four
"Ukraine" isn't even that - it is a WW1 German invention.
http://tarpley.net/metaphysical-doubts-concerning-the-existence-of-moder...
Half the respondents think Russia is a fat radio host.
Hilarious MvM...thanks for the laugh...
ori
They can also get a mortgage for waterfront property in New Mexico. And, a no mone loan on an escalade.
So.... what-s-the-problem?
If buyers act now we'll double their order with a bridge in prime Bay Area property.
This is a trick question, huh?
Its a Dickfor trophy.
They dont get it.
RIPS
"Everyone involved got participation trophies."
WHO PROFITS IN CONSTANT USELESS BASELESS WOARS?
http://bushwatch.small-mobile-entities.com/bushcarlyle.htm
WHY IS THE USURPER A PUPPET FOR DADDY THE GRAND DRAGON BUSH?
Now that people know where it is (lol) maybe they will want to know who started this.
Meet The Americans Who Put Together The Coup In Kiev—Chapter and VerseDeleted Duplicate :(
I wonder what percentage of Americans can correctly place Washington DC on a map...
47% of Amerikcans can accuratly place Washington, D.C. as located in their mailboxs on the 15th and 30th of the month.
Not the 15th and the 30th of each month. Unemployment Benefits are not mailed to the 47% and are mailed by the State Government. It is on the First and the Third of the Month from US Treasury (Social Security) and those checks originate from Baltimore, Maryland.
I wonder what percentage of Americans would care if they woke up one morning to hear DC was swallowed by a gigantic sink hole........ annnnd que the hillary snatch jokes.....
The comments on the linked WaPo article are nothing but a whiny-ass partisan slap fight. Goddamn, most Americans are fucking stupid.
Guess it's back to pretending I'm Canadian, eh.
Why would you claim allegience with any armed gang?
Guess it's back to pretending I'm Canadian, eh.
Better watch out, some of those folks seem convinced Ukraine is Canada or Greenland....or Hudson bay and they're hoppin' mad for an invasion lol
I don't want to have anything to do with these people. I'm going to pretend to be Vogon.
Growing up near Vegreville in rural Alberta, with the largest easter egg in the world, and most surnames ending in 'chuk or 'sky, I thought that was the Ukraine, or at least a Canadianized version of it.
He shore gots a pretty mouth
I thought it was "purrty"......
Hockey player.
Trivia: Arthur Smith died this week. He wrote "Feuding Banjos" which was renamed and used without attribution in the film Deliverance.
The story here:
http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/03/3755897/charlottes-arthur-smith-who-wrote.html
Ukrainian??........ awwww......I would have guessed British chick at a newcastle pub........ without make up......
I was going to come here to say that Ukraine is on planet Earth but Third Earth will also work.
Ukraine is right next door to Mordor!
The concern should not be that they could not accurately locate the Ukraine, or were widely off the mark, but that people of such limited knowledge were willing to hold and make substantive comments regarding war somewhere which their lack of geographical knowledge indicates they clearly know nothing about.
Kind of like me bloviating on the best anesthesiology methods to use for surgery.
Now if "Honey Boo Boo" did an episode there...
"Where in the world is Carmen Nuland?!"
Circling Urkranus
It not Urkraine, it's not Mykraine.
It's Ourkraine.
No it's MyRAkraine
Yukon.
fonestar's PAL was born and raised in Whitehorse, Yukon... (Ukraine).
Where> Who cares! Do the women get equal pay?
Who stole my kieska?
Attu?
Ill informed people make poor choices.
Simple, really
Also, well-medicated people are ill informed.
Ill informed people should not make decisions.
That reminds me: I wonder when Barry's tee time for today is set for?
That's why I always have been for the implementation of a mandatory test before people are allowed to vote.
Thank god our votes don't count.
Get the answer wrong and you get sent.
Ya just gotta love the government education system.
Ill informed people are easy to steer.
It's deliberate.
Ill informed people are easy to sheer. Thank you Bernanke and Yellen!
Charlotte Iserbet on Education . A must watch/share:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M&index=2&list=PLcv3TL9Q2_kgFI0...
Really says it all.
ori
One out of six is actually much higher than I expected.
I doubt whether Obozo knows either.Its not on ESPN so it doesn't matter.
Are there any Championship golf courses in Yew-crane?
Considering that golf came to the Ukraine in 2007 I would doubt the courses are all that.
I think Obozo had Ukraine getting knocked out by Mich. St. in the 2nd rd..
No Sh%%.
Some genius thinks we should invade ourselves to liberate Ukraine.
Most of the rest of the world thinks you should go and 'invade' yourselves.
and a fresh crop of Obamabots coming your way this May!!!
What's the dot south east of of New Zealand?
Is that where flight 370 crashed?
You mean where it was hijacked from by a military op?
CNN on my teevee said it crashed because of lithium ion batteries.
Is that what they charged?
Shocking news.
The potential difference between that and reality is great.
I am positive that would be negative news.
They need to investigate further because where there is smoke, there is lithium ions.
Yeah, that's about all I got...
Perhaps the question posed was "where does Ukraine wish it was".
(answer: as far as geographically possible from both Germany and Russia.)
The ghosts of both Napolean and Hitler salute you from the grave
Napoleon and Hitler? Didn't they both go through the Ukraine on their way to Moscow. I can't remember, did they ever get there?
Yes, and it didn't do them much good. Esp. when winter set in. Turns out Russia kind of begins at Moscow, so you can't really conquer the country by conquering Moscow...
Ukraine was their super highway to disaster.
That would be the long way. Moscow is many hundreds of miles...TO THE NORTH.
Hitler tried to take the Ukraine and lost. He needed the fucking OIL. The Eastern Front spanned well over 1000 miles.
Good luck with that.
Zombie society.
Look at those dots all over the place - people are so dumb. How could you possibly find Ukraine when the map isn't even of Middle Earth?
DUH!!
Just an observation but why are there no spots in Mexico? I mean if there is a spot on Madagascar there should be one on Mexico too, right?
Same with Uragway.
WTF is this shit?
How could there possibly be a spot on Mexico when Mexico's in Asia?
You need to study your geology more!
The poll was restricted to illegal immigrants from Mexico?
Why do so many people think it's somewhere in Africa?
Because that's where Obama is from.
Probably because nothing good ever comes from Africa:
1. Future welfare recipients
2. Hurricanes
3. Ebola Virus & A.I.D.S
Something bad is happening somewhere? Probably Africa.
Just my best guess.
Barry is from Africa right? Yeah, there is that.
It clearly IS in Africa, with Idi Amin as President: https://www.google.com/search?as_st=y&tbm=isch&hl=en&as_q=idi+amin+ukrai...
Is that Biggy Smalls?
eh, they all look alike.
What makes you think they know where Africa is?
I'm sick of the door knobs who constantly support intervening in another country's affairs. If you want to intervene so badly get up off of your fat potato chip munching Xbox playing ass and volunteer, otherwise just shut the fuck up you damn retard.
These people get to decide who runs a nuclear armed military super power. The really terrifying part is that one can't wake up from this nightmare.
Why? Homer works at a nuclear plant and he is doing just fine, isn't he?
Now you are just being silly. Everybody knows that Homer doesn't work.
Homer - "Don't ask me how the economy works."
Welcome to the "real world," folks. It is actually worse than your nightmares, because you can not wake up enough to get out. Rather the more you learn about that "real world," the worse those nightmare insanities become, since the less able you become to still believe that it is possible to ever "wake up" enough other people, along with yourself, to stop that runaway social insanity nightmare from automatically getting worse, faster ...
Our actual politics is based on the perceptions of people whose ability to understand anything that matters continues to be demonstrated to be so abysmally absurd that there is no reasonable hope we could ever "wake up" from that reality of moronic monkeys with weapons of mass destruction.
It does appear that "God" has a macabre sense of humour! In that context, Zero Hedge readers appear to belong to an esoteric cult that believes that somehow facts should matter. That is so ironic, because it is clear that one of the central social facts is that social facts do NOT matter much, since what the majority of society knows has almost nothing to do with facts. Rather, ignorance and absurd beliefs are the dominate features that direct political events, whereby those who are the best at lying tend to end up controlling civilization. Of course, since lies work by being backed up by violence, the more ignorant people are, the more they approve of using violence to back up their beliefs. After all, the foundation of the whole system has become successfully backing up frauds with force. Within that system, the vast majority of people have adapted to that fact by ignoring facts.
The ruling classes have deliberately made and maintained a social system which depends upon the majority of people being morons, and that goal has been persistently pursued with scientific methods, to the degree which exists today, of a "nuclear armed military super power" which can count on the vast majority of its people not understanding geopolitical events, because they do no want to understand.
After looking at enough of these sorts of real social facts, about the abysmally absurd levels of ignorance throughout the current population, the only way to "fight" insanity appears to be with insanity, since one has to indulge in one's own kinds of irrational hopes in order to have any hope at all. That is what I do, in order to cope with the apparently most objective and factual conclusions, that our civilization is collectively manifesting runaway criminal insanities, because our reality IS a worsening nightmare that we can not wake up from!