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Guest Post: 16 Signs That Most Americans Are Not Prepared For The Coming Economic Collapse

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.  I am constantly using phrases such as "get prepared while you still can" and "time is running out".  In fact, I use them so often that people are starting to criticize me for it.  But the truth is that only a small percentage of people out there are actively taking steps to get ready for what is coming.  Most of the country is not prepared at all.  In many ways, it is just like 2007 all over again.  There were many people that could see what was about to happen and were doing all they could to warn people, but most did not listen.  And then the great financial crisis of 2008 struck and millions of people lost their jobs and their homes.  Unfortunately, the next great wave of the economic collapse is going to be even more painful than the last one.  It is imperative that people get prepared for what is on the horizon, but for the most part it is just not happening.

A lot of it has to do with the fact that we have such short memories and such short attention spans in America today.  Thanks to years of television and endless hours on the Internet, I find myself having a really hard time focusing on anything for more than just a few moments.  And we are accustomed to living in an "instant society" where we don't have to wait for anything.  In such a society, we are used to "news cycles" that only last for 24 hours and very few people take a "long-term view" of anything.

And another one of the big problems that we are facing is something called "normalcy bias".  The following is how Wikipedia defines it...

The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to a mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

Over the past several years, the U.S. economy has been relatively stable.  And that is a good thing.  But it has also lulled millions upon millions of people into a false sense of security and complacency.  At this point, most Americans consider 2008 to be a temporary bump in the road, and most assume that the U.S. economy will always be strong.

Unfortunately, that is not the truth.  As I have written about previously, the long-term trends that are destroying our economy have continued to get worse since 2008, and none of the problems that caused the last financial crisis have been fixed.

We are steamrolling toward the edge of an economic cliff, and most people in our entertainment-addicted society are totally oblivious to what is going on.  So they are not doing anything to get ready for the immense economic pain that is coming.  The following are 16 signs that most Americans are completely unprepared for the coming economic collapse...

#1 Could you come up with $2000 right now?  According to a shocking study that was just released, most Americans could not...

Forty percent of individuals in the U.S. said they could not or probably could not come up with $2,000 if an unexpected need arose, according to research by Atif Mian of Princeton University and Amir Sufi of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

#2 In that same study, Americans were asked the following question...

"Do you have 3 months emergency funds to cover expenses in case of sickness, job loss, economic downturn?"

An astounding 60 percent of people that responded said that they do not.

#3 Another study found that less than one out of every four Americans has enough money stored away to cover six months of expenses.

#4 Some people are actually trying really hard to get ahead, but admittedly that is really tough to do when we are all being taxed into oblivion.  In fact, it was reported this week that Americans now spend more on taxes than they spend on food, clothing and housing combined.

#5 Right now, more Americans are dependent on the government than ever before.  In fact, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49 percent of all Americans live in a home that currently gets direct monetary benefits from the federal government.

#6 It is estimated that less than 10 percent of the entire U.S. population owns any gold or silver for investment purposes.  That is a stunning number.

#7 It has been estimated that there are approximately 3 million "preppers" in the United States.  But that means that almost everyone else is not prepping.

#8-16 The following are nine more statistics that come from a survey conducted by the Adelphi Center for Health Innovation.  As you can see, a significant portion of the population is not even prepared for a basic emergency that would last for just a few days...

  • 44 percent don’t have first-aid kits
  • 48 percent lack emergency supplies
  • 53 percent do not have a minimum three-day supply of nonperishable food and water at home
  • 55 percent believe local authorities will come to their rescue if disaster strikes
  • 52 percent have not designated a family meeting place if they are separated during an emergency
  • 42 percent do not know the phone numbers of all of their immediate family members
  • 21 percent don’t know if their workplace has an emergency preparedness plan
  • 37 percent do not have a list of the drugs they are taking
  • 52 percent do not have copies of health insurance documents

What do you think is going to happen to these people once the economy collapses and there is chaos in the streets?

How are they going to survive?

After all of these years of writing about the coming economic collapse, nothing has changed as far as the long-term outlook is concerned.

We are still heading toward a complete and total economic meltdown.

But most Americans continue to have faith in the system, and the mainstream media keeps assuring them that everything is going to be just fine.

And in this "dumbed-down" society of ours, most people are perfectly content to let others do their thinking for them.  In America today, only one out of every six Americans can even find Ukraine on a map of the world.  That is how far we have fallen.

In this day and age, it is imperative that we all learn how to think for ourselves.  The foundations of our society are crumbling, our economic system is failing and the blind are leading the blind.  If we do not learn to make our own decisions, we are just going to follow the rest of the herd into oblivion.

In addition, we all need to start taking a long-term view of things.  Just because the economic collapse is not going to happen this month does not mean that it is not going to happen.  When you step back and take a broader view of what is happening, it becomes exceedingly clear where we are heading.

Sadly, most Americans will never do that.


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Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:35 | 4641471 Omegaman2211
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Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:41 | 4641496 ABG LINE
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Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:45 | 4641514 Mr Pink
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There's an economic collapse coming?! Holy shit, what should I do????

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:54 | 4641542 Soul Glow
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1)  Make a fucking list

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:13 | 4641601 pndr4495
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Eighth step work that is.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:46 | 4641715 idea_hamster
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"most" = 44%, huh?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:32 | 4641864 Dr. Engali
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Common core math.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:08 | 4641963 Manthong
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But looking at the brighter side of things, the fatties can look forward to some weight loss as deprivation and radiation will emaciate millions.

There will be many “OMG, you look FAB !” comments on Zuckbook.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 18:05 | 4645168 forensicator
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Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:53 | 4641919 DaveyJones
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should I check it twice?

should I be naughty or should I be nice?

will santa get skinny too?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:39 | 4642056 MsCreant
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Will there be a great Santa Claws back? 

Margin calls are coming, to town.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:10 | 4642212 e_goldstein
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1)  Make a fucking list

Best comment, evah.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:41 | 4642383 Goldenballs
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Buy a fucking pen.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:58 | 4641554 Dr. Engali
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Sit in your hole and die, because according to Michael we are all doomed anyway.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:11 | 4641978 Manthong
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Like minds..  I keep telling the relatives that when the SHTF do like the animals do..

crawl into a hole and die..

or fight.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:34 | 4642176 laboratorymike
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This site's tagline:

"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

Insight from CS Lewis:

"War does not bring a new condition, it aggravates the current condition ... The death rate has always been 100%, we cannot increase it."

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:04 | 4642329 StychoKiller
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Me and the family agreed to meet in Ukraine in case of an emergency! :>D

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:44 | 4642384 Goldenballs
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People very laid back on here,this is not funny.




For the Bankers,Politicians,Big Business,Trolls,paid shills of the Dark Side ...........................................




Thu, 04/10/2014 - 11:07 | 4643236 dizzzave
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gold bitches

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:49 | 4641529 just-my-opinion
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I won't give you a down vote but....would you say it to his face

If I was mad...I would...but otherwise...thats not needed


Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:58 | 4641767 Omegaman2211
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Shut the fuck up.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:51 | 4641915 Serenity Now
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Comment of the day for me.  My 13-year old nephew got suspended from school for telling another boy to shut the fuck up. I've been saying it ALL day.  LOL.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:40 | 4642063 MsCreant
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Neff yous a terrist!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:52 | 4641743 Stuck on Zero
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Hey Dude.  Remember that you are here and alive today because you are descended from a multi-millenium long line of preppers.


Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:55 | 4641925 James
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Michael Snyder, I saw your work on another blog stating a July 14th meltdown and Capital Controls being placed here in the U.S.

Would like to see that explained here.


Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:50 | 4642084 SilverRhino
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Fire Extinguishers in the home. How many ZHer's have one or more?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:40 | 4642185 laboratorymike
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Have one, saved my apartment/stuff from a grease fire. Great suggestion!

Have food: I used to work at a grocery store and any time anything happened, the shelves were empty in a hour, two tops.

Have a means of getting clean water: Survived a flood, clean water was gone for two weeks, the bottled stuff quintupled in price despite literal mountains of water being trucked in.


Once you go through a few disasters prepping becomes second nature. I think we have very easy lives to go for years and not have to worry about anything.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:19 | 4642220 SgtShaftoe
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One fire extinguisher in every car, in the kitchen, in the garage, on top of the fridge, in the basement, and at least one good (CAT-T) tourniquet and REAL first aid kit in the house, in every car.  The car is the most dangerous place, best be prepared for an emergency to save someone. Yes, I test my MOX alarm and smoke alarms too.  (I have a MOX alarm in the furnace room too.)

A pet peve of mine is that I hate not having the tools I need when I need them, so I fully subscribe to the redundant redundancy principle. 

Hell, I just need a couple X-ray machines and I'd be a rolling hospital. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 11:13 | 4643201 nofluer
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Having tools is the smallest part of the issue. Being able to FIND the tool you need when you need it - THAT is the impossible part of it.

My tools must have come from a top secret covert ops program as they can hide at a moment's notice, and come out when they are no longer needed because you bought another one... neither of which will be findable the next time you need one.

Most people group their tools by type. Groups like wrenches (aux. hammers), screwdrivers (aux hammers), hammers (aux hole punchers)... etc. I group my tools differently. There are the bench tools (tools probably piled on the bench - the word "bench" indicating the wood under the tools that supports the pile), the floor tools (tools in various piles on the garage floor - so designated because there isn't enough room on the bench), barn tools (tools under the hay, hanging from the rafters, in the dirt out back of the barn, etc ie located within a few hundred feet of the barn), truck tools (tools on, under, behind the back seat of the truck), and "farm" tools (tools probably located somewhere on the farm - ie where-ever I used them last), etc.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 11:06 | 4643228 ejmoosa
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My friends laugh at my level of redundancy.  But who do you think they call when they need something?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 04:14 | 4646571 Serenity Now
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Two is one.  One is none.  :)

A good prepper motto I came across.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:46 | 4642386 Goldenballs
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Nice eyes.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:40 | 4641490 Dr. Engali
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Argh .... A fucking list!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:41 | 4641492 fonzannoon
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Yeah but doc we are down to 16 from 30. this is incredibly bullish.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:48 | 4641521 Soul Glow
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1)  Fat

2)  Lazy

3)  Complacent

4)  Self Righteous

5)  Stupid

There's the fucking list.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:42 | 4642069 MsCreant
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6) Entitled

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:39 | 4642515 fasTTcar
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You can get it down to 3:


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:08 | 4642331 StychoKiller
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The intertubez is yer friend...

100 Items that disappear first in a disaster:

 1. Generators
 2. Water Filters/Purifiers
 3. Portable Toilets
 4. Seasoned Firewood.
 5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps, Lanterns
 6. Camp Stove Fuel – Impossible to stockpile too much.
 7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
 8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
 9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid
13. Water Containers
14. Mini Heater head (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Lantern Mantles
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Propane Cookstoves
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear / Polypropylene
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers
34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests
45. Workboots, belts, jeans & durable shirts
46. Flashlights, Lightsticks, torches, Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks
48. Garbage cans, Plastic
49. Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash, floss
50. Cast iron cookware
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Boy Scout Handbook
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Reading glasses
81. Window Insulation Kit
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal use, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:50 | 4642389 Goldenballs
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101 ) Common sense.

102) Dickheads

103) Gimps.

104) Chocolate Cake.

105) The Fed

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:16 | 4642475 ParkAveFlasher
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"Dog food"?  That's what the neighbors are for.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 18:10 | 4645200 forensicator
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i would add Lead or bullets at the top of this list.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:41 | 4641493 IPA
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Must.   Know.  16 reasons       must.     Click.     Article.     Can't.     Resist

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:46 | 4641716 BandGap
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No, I think you meant to say "blow me".

That's what I was thinking too.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:42 | 4641499 kaiserhoff
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#17 Some people still live in New Yawk.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:48 | 4641522 valley chick
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#18  beans, bullion, and bullets. Bitchez!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:36 | 4642224 SgtShaftoe
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You can try to lead a horse out of a burning barn, but you can't prevent them running back in, or just being fucking stupid and staying inside because they like to stare at the wallpaper. 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:42 | 4641501 just-my-opinion
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Do what I a russian made when you kill one of can take their ammo

Do I need to put the / really

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:31 | 4642033 drendebe10
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I would guess it wont be Ruskies shooti n g at you... more likely LE..

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:42 | 4641502 Doubleguns
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Only 3 million? I would have guessed there were a lot more, a whole lot more by the numbers that I know. Whole parts of our country must have jack. 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:43 | 4641506 just-my-opinion
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You know what sucks about a econ collapse...beans and soup

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:46 | 4641515 Soul Glow
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I make a pretty good bean soup :)

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:56 | 4641551 just-my-opinion
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There is always atleast 1....dumbass

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:01 | 4641562 Soul Glow
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What the fuck are you trying to say, because you aren't making any sense. 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:05 | 4641579 just-my-opinion
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The down votes for humor

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:03 | 4641572 just-my-opinion
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I worked on the space-shuttle....tell me what you down voters have done

Tell your parents you will move out soon

Oh and get a sense of humor....I was being funny

So many dumb-asses and so little time

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:11 | 4641599 Soul Glow
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So while you were on a space ship you lost your sense of humor.  Gotcha.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 02:32 | 4642271 boogerbently
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Rocket Scientist !

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:24 | 4641633 Pickleton
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"I worked on the space-shuttle"


I'm not so sure you're gonna win friends and influence people on this site bragging about working on a bloated govt project.  Who give a shit about the space shuttle. 

BTW, I left my parents house when I joined the Corps to go fight in the first gulf war and now I write software.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:47 | 4641717 logicalman
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I guess we can give you a break for the first part,

You were too young and ill-informed to know any better.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:45 | 4642074 MsCreant
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Yeah, writing software, inexcusable!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:23 | 4642157 Rukeysers Ghost
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"I worked on the space-shuttle"


So you worked on a museum at the Samuel Oschin Air and Space Center. Big fuckin' deal. I worked building a McDonalds part time in college.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:12 | 4642367 Serenity Now
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I think working on the space shuttle is a very big deal, and I'm impressed!  

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 09:17 | 4642775 V in PA
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I started out as a chicken killer for a small poultry farm. We did rabbits on Saturdays, and sold chicken feet to the Asian's on Wednesdays at the market in Philly.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 10:32 | 4643036 Nostradumbass
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So what?

Anyone who stands in a corner of a machine shop working on a buffer/grinder with some part being used on the shuttle can claim to have worked on the shuttle.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 11:08 | 4643241 ejmoosa
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I think I know which two....

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:03 | 4641569 SubjectivObject
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What's the recipe?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:59 | 4641938 jay35
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So, the flatulence then?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:09 | 4642333 StychoKiller
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What, no rice or freeze-dried food?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:43 | 4641508 graneros
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Stop it Tyler.  Enough of these fricking Snyder lists.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:46 | 4641518 Omegaman2211
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Stop downvoting everyone, Michael.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:45 | 4641513 Soul Glow
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Americans aren't prepared to walk down the street.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:48 | 4641523 i_call_you_my_base
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Long armageddon hover-rounds.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:51 | 4641536 Soul Glow
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1)  Watching obese people wheel themselves into ditches on the side of the road will only be funny until they are eaten by meth heads.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:48 | 4641724 logicalman
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Saves a lot of clean-up time.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:09 | 4641792 813kml
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I don't think the streets are prepared either.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:46 | 4641519 Seasmoke
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I just want a collapse , so I don't have to read any more lists !! 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:50 | 4641533 Soul Glow
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1)  Fuck lists

2)  Lists are stupid

3)  Who fucking makes lists other than mothers going grocery shopping anyway?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:09 | 4641593 oooBooo
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And we won't have to hear how the collapse is just around the corner any more.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:51 | 4641535 BudFox2012
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This is nonsense.  Most americans are well prepared and have stored a lot of food.  Of course it is in the form of fat on their stomachs and asses, but it is still stored.

And they have plenty of credit cards, so they don't have to worry about money...

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:53 | 4641540 Soul Glow
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1)  The credit cards will be better off used for dicing lines

2)  Obese people will sell their fat to China and be able to buy more credit cards for their coke habits

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:14 | 4641811 813kml
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That is a time-tested weight loss program, and much sexier than snorting Colon Blow.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:33 | 4642039 drendebe10
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The fudge packer on chief might disagree 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:48 | 4642079 MsCreant
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China will have the best soap money can buy. 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:26 | 4641638 Pickleton
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LOL, is it me or did you just try to make starving to death over a longer period of time sound good.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:59 | 4641941 Serenity Now
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This comment made me laugh.  You guys are killing it on this thread.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:49 | 4641726 DaveA
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Obesity + economic collapse. Sometimes two wrongs do make a right.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:54 | 4641543 Dr. Engali
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I can reduce this list down to two signs :
1) Americans are fat
2) Americans are stupid.

Next article please.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:55 | 4641546 Soul Glow
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My list was a couple longer.  Touche.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:16 | 4641609 just-my-opinion
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Well...that may be popular but....speak for yourself

I'm not fat or stupid

OK....I'll say this...F the fed and the gov...They screwed everything up....I can agree with that

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:35 | 4641667 Ban KKiller
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Is fat a symptom of stupidity? 

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:49 | 4641730 logicalman
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Might be that stupidity leads to obesity, in many cases.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:10 | 4641799 DanDaley
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"...for I look upon it, that he who does not mind his belly, will hardly mind anything else."

Samuel Johnson

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:52 | 4641739 813kml
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Unless you're pregnant, yes.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:14 | 4642298 FullFaithAndCretin
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Pregnancy is also a sign of stupidity

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:45 | 4642251 SgtShaftoe
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That's a chicken vs. egg problem.  infinite loop. does not compute...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 10:25 | 4643007 Tale2cities
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Yea but the fat ones will survive the longest.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 20:57 | 4641552 SubjectivObject
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1)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

2)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

3)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

4)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

5)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

6)  Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.

7)  ...

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:02 | 4641567 order66
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Long NY Fed.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:05 | 4641582 LetThemEatRand
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#17  Too busy reading these lists to prepare.  

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:10 | 4641594 Herdee
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It's not too often that you hear someone talk about how shocked they are that THE TYLERS are missing out on a big story.I was on SilverDoctor and they have a MUST LISTEN Exclusive 1-on1 Full interview with BCM's Ann Barnhart.It's under the SD Hall of Fame Section. "If your still in the markets your either stupid or your on drugs".

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:19 | 4641619 deerhunter
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pinto bean soup the other day,  chicken base,  onion, celery and carrot.  Cumin and black pepper and salt to taste.  Pureed soup after simmering with ham on the bone for 3 hours.  Beans soaked overnight and rinsed several washings and cleaned.  Ham on the bone removed and diced before pureeing.  Diced ham added back in after soup is pureed.  Um,  um,  good.  Grandson is 20 months old and ate a whole bowl.  Glad it was the daughter and son in law had to deal with that diaper.  Good eating to all.  Zero hedge apocolypse cooking show recipes coming soon to a page near you.  Signing off,,,,,,,,

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:33 | 4641663 Ban KKiller
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Cooking real food is great...almost subversive these days. Especially if you grow it.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:53 | 4641745 logicalman
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Can't beat good, honest food.

My kids only got to eat McDonalds if they were over at a friend's place.

To quote my son, many years ago, why would anyone eat junk food when you can make good food yourself.


Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:21 | 4641623 1ifbyland
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List porn

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:44 | 4641669 db51
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Here we go again.   I've been waiting for the collapse since 2008, and in the meantime, missed out on one hell of a bull run in the stock market keeping investments in cash equivalents, farmland, etc.  I'm sick of hearing it.  Give me a break folks.  I'm about to sign off of SH as well.   W T F...last night, I was sure the collapse would begin this morning at the opening bell...instead...up we go.

Just wiat until everyone is trying to raise money by having garage sales once this thing goes down.    That $ 10K in Leggos, Beenie Babies, and other such crap won't bring $ .00001 on the dollar.   And hey, W T F....when are the banksters going to roll out the toilet paper hidden  their vaults and Mr. Market determines that it is worth even less than the Garage Sale Leggos Set.    We're are all totally screwed.   IF....and when it comes, I've got plenty of .223 and 9mm and have a pretty good idea where to expend it before I'm pushing up daisies.


Meanwhile.....back to the Kardashians.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:17 | 4641817 Crisismode
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The Tylers will milk you dry on your hope for doom.


Hope for your Change,

it ain't coming anytime soon.



Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:36 | 4641874 whotookmyalias
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LOL, I closed my S&P and DOW shorts last week so I could book the loss.  I want at least 25 more days before the crash so I can short again without having to declare a wash sale.  Is that too much to ask!!!!!!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:43 | 4641697 lakecity55
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fuck this doom porn.

we know things are bad, but this guy is always bad.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:08 | 4641964 Radical Marijuana
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Hah! lakecity55, I almost always agree with your comments, however, in this case I regard Snyder as still being unreasonably optimistic about the future. Also, he continues to presume that somehow most people could have any real choices, other than to barely survive, until they get run over in the stampedes of their peers, when there is some significant events which relatively suddenly cause economic collapse to get serious.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:53 | 4642090 james.connolly
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RM tell us the truth, did you actually read his bile? Or do you like the rest of us just make comments, ... because we have all seen a 1,000 times before?

I agree Synder's gig is to make sense out of total UN-CIVIL WAR, ... the trouble is that guy's like Synder are BAMABI in the head-lights and when the real shit hits the fan,... he better not be living in the USA, if he had any brains.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:44 | 4641704 BandGap
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Well, my shit is in a hole and I'm ready to go, General.

I live three lives - 1. I used to know, 2. the one I want to know and 3. reality.

Reality ain't what it used to be.

Good fucking night.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:55 | 4641751 logicalman
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The Shit Hit The Fan!

Wonder where my health insurance papers are?????


Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:52 | 4642088 MsCreant
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I think it was some of the poo being some of this article.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:52 | 4642200 laboratorymike
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I had the same thought.

This one was much more about general preparedness, not SHTF preparedness.

For example, we had a 500 year flood and the major roads were out for two days, a lot of ATM/credit card machines broke down, water was contaminated, etc. etc. Despite credit cards being gone they were trucking in food and water after 1 day. Could someone live for three days without going mad with hunger in that scenario?

Or, what if you suddenly lost your job or normal income for three months? Could you live? It seems that if people can't survive these scenarios, don't even bother with SHTF.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:53 | 4642536 Red Lenin
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That's a highly localised incident though.  If everywhere goes down,  there is nowhere for food and water to be trucked from.  No central government, not even any regional government.

And the lot will quickly collapse.  Using Police and military?  Their first priority will be their own families - not the country.  Doctors, nurses emergency satff?  Again theier own families is what their priority will be.  Not their patients and certainly not the victims of the collapse.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:58 | 4641766 economicminor
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Do any of you have any idea how to actually survive? If you live in a big city, you may be in much worse shape than those who live rural but even many rural people don't know how to grow a garden or preserve food for the winter. It will take water, seed, stored food, infrastructure and tools that most people have no idea how to use today.

Why does any one need to be this prepared? Because of the leverage in all our systems. Everything is leveraged and once this contraction really starts, what I expect to see is first a stock market crash due to the extreme leverage.  Leverage and debt that make little or no sense will be defaulted upon and this could easily be much worse than 2008-9. The FED has no tools left in its tool box. I guess it could actually just put money in all our accounts but it is invested in what it is doing and it would be late into any event before they would admit failure and change directions IMO.

What will start this? Probably bad earnings but could be China, Russia or even a major natural desaster almost anywhere in the world. Draughts have already caused the price of meat to go up and now the draught in California is going to drive up all fresh produce to very high levels. Wages are already depressed for most and the cost of living has increased for decades. When you look at the FED's velocity of money charts, you know that the average person is already doing much worse than what the government and media are pretending. We have set the stage and it is just a matter of time before a trigger starts the deleveraging and deflation. (king copper and iron ore may already be signaling)

Once the market starts down, all the leverage (margin debt) will force selling to cover. This will force the market further down. As the market goes down, it and the lack of retail sales will cause many businesses to contract or outright close down. This will exacerbate the problems and cause further economic dislocation.

In the end, we could easily see farms (which operate on debt and have to sell at profit to maintain their production) shutting down and trucking collapsing due to defaulting on debts.  Even access to repair parts may be very marginal. Many electrial distributors are leveraged as are many power producers. Things could easily get this bad and do it in a year or less. Then the list of who is prepared is awfully slim.

Anyone that thinks the governemt is actually capible of stepping in should remember Katrina and Sandy.

I wish I was wrong but it really is just a matter of time. All this mal investment needs to be wrung out. Borrowed money needs to be put to actual productive use, not just consumption. You can consume on debt for a while but the US has been doing it for decades. Debt has costs, even at ZIRP. To bad we didn't use it to make things better rather than just waste most of it. The amount of debt is just unbelievable.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:12 | 4641805 BandGap
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I beat your ass 1 on 1 because you talk too fucking much.

Very soon words will mean shit.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:49 | 4641897 DanDaley
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Bandgap, econminor is the end of the old system, while you are the start of the new. Watch the movie from the '70s called The Last Valley with Michael Caine and Omar will see yourself (Michael Caine) and how the new world will be.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:39 | 4641882 DanDaley
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Economicmonor - nice analysis...seems about right

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:26 | 4642228 Leraconteur
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Incorrect. If things get that bad - never have in human history - then what will happen is that farmers will tell the banks to stick it and they will farm their land and default on the debt because people will eat.

If people are hungry for one growing season, or even a month, they will take over the fallow bank-owned farms by force and work the fields themselves.

People as a rule don't sit around and wait to die.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:23 | 4642414 Seer
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One doesn't simply just jump right in and produce, it can take several seasons.

"People as a rule don't sit around and wait to die."

Partly true.  Most die while trying to travel to someplace (looking for food/shelter).

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 10:23 | 4642998 Leraconteur
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You are assuming massive disruption of farming will occur.

It won't. People won't just all leave their farms enmasse and have them ignored - by 4 weeks out people will walk there if they have to and replace what labour left. People, on their own no society or .gov needed, will figure it out very very quickly and act.

Thus the extant production will be intact more or less.  Processes and knowledge will still be in situ, intact and in place. Farmers who told the bank to go to hell will be there working the fields alongside the new migrants from cities.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 21:59 | 4641768 kurt
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Hey Down Dave would you like half of my Little Debbie? I had a nice poop today. Do you think those ol' Duke Boys be ridin' the General on crumbly loam on a wooded path, stoppin' for a picnic; good ol' peanut butter and sweet jelly and a moonshine and water back? Then off they go, off the perfect jump... and back into the loop, deep south soft summer and a swim in the creek.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:33 | 4641869 db51
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W T F?   lmao.   Must be some wicked weed you be smokin bro.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:22 | 4641847 ebworthen
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"Roll the guillotines, thread the hempen rope" should work for quite a while.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:46 | 4641904 logicalman
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The rope should definitely be hempen, for many symbolic reasons.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:45 | 4641900 villainvomit
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I am positive it will all shake out ..../////sarc/////

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:47 | 4641907 logicalman
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It will all shake out.

A bit like a wet dog.

Just try not to be standing too close!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:09 | 4641969 Kirk2NCC1701
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Mrs Snyder to Michael: "Mike, do you love me?"

Mike: "Why, yes, dear. Let me make a List"

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:25 | 4642416 Seer
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I appreciated the humor!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:19 | 4642001 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The Americans this, the Americans that...

Most people of the industrialized World, regardless of nationality, are not prepared for what is coming.


But that is good.  A higher rate of depopulation in the ex-industrialized World will make more room for more rapid growth during the rebuilding phase.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:28 | 4642229 CrashisOptimistic
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There will be no rebuilding phase.

The descent will be oil based, not based on numbers on screens that can be changed by decree.

No one is going to starve because some numbers on a screen say they should.  Those numbers will just be changed.  Remember Greece?  Those numbers were going to destroy the world.  Didn't happen.  Those numbers were not allowed to be "default".  The default numbers were changed.

You think some counterparty can go to a courtroom and say "Hey, they changed these numbers and cost me money.  Make them put them back."  The govt will tell the judge "If the numbers go back, you starve to death and so does society, and we've already written your ruling for this case.  Just sign it.  If you won't, we'll get someone who will."

So stop looking at money as the engine of destruction because it never will be.

Oil is.  You can't decree oil.  It is scarce.  It requires too much effort to get the same amounts out.  And that's gettting worse every day.  THAT is what is going to kill you, and there won't be any rebuilding phase.  Gone is gone.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:34 | 4642045 robertocarlos
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1) Kick the bucket.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:42 | 4642067 Stinko da Munk
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Oh well, if it all goes to shit I'll sell my LinkedIn  stocks to survive.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:56 | 4642095 james.connolly
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Economic Collapse .. Solution? GO SHOPPING

Sure SYNDER would like to see everybody go shopping and have their PREPPER bag at the ready.

Something makes me think that SYNDER sell's PREP-KITS, for there is no other message in his post, other than GO SHOPPING.

Guess what, ... all the PREP SHIT will not do you any fucking good, because once the UN-CIVIL war begins, ... it will last 5+ years,... All the PREP in the world will do you no fucking good.

If you actually saw it coming and you stayed, you are a fucking idiot.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:08 | 4642122 MsCreant
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So you have a way off earth?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:29 | 4642231 james.connolly
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We're talking UN-CIVIL WAR, which is regional, and will only be in continental USA, that's why I'm a big fan of alaska, if you can handle the cold.

Lower 48 will be fucked.

But everywhere else will be good.



This narrative that the entire world is fuck, just because american's are assholes, ... is bullshit, ... once the civil war starts the rest of the world will throw a party.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:30 | 4642375 Serenity Now
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Oh yeah, everybody knows you don't need preps in Alaska.  

Every other place in the world will be good when the US lower 48 is fucked?    And they will throw a party?  LOL, we'll see.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:34 | 4642429 Seer
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I agree with some things, others not...

There will be various levels of violence in differing places and over different periods of time.  No one can really predict timing and intensity (for a given location).

Paranoia has its place.  There is, however, only so much distraction from life that one should engage in, otherwise, what's the point?

"If you actually saw it coming and you stayed, you are a fucking idiot."

I don't believe that this characterization is sound.  Fight or flight.  I think that there is a time and place for each.  Those not inclined to fight should, I agree, take to flight.  And those that like where they are are likely best to stay and fight.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:01 | 4642108 news printer
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Business as usual by Dmitry Orlov

[Update: After a lot of unthinking “but we Americans have guns!”-type comments, I held my nose and added a paragraph on that vile topic.]

Thinking about collapse is very useful because it allows you to prepare for it. And preparing for collapse is very useful too—from the pragmatic perspective of risk management. Consider the possibilities.

  • If you prepare for collapse and it doesn't happen, then you look a tiny bit foolish.
  • If you don't prepare for collapse and collapse does happen, then you look a tiny bit dead.

Now, which would you prefer to be, foolish or dead?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:37 | 4642183 Leraconteur
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Comments like yours always SEEM reasonable until one looks at examples.

Let's look at FSU/RF November 1991. Argentina over the past 30 years another good example.

What preps then would have had you prevail?

-2 years of food? Nope, did not need it. Food was there and gardens everywhere within months.

-6 months savings? Nope, you needed 10 years worth of savings to get through it.

-2 weeks of water? Nope, water and most muni services remained intact.

-Guns and a compound? Nope, crime increased but it was not Mad Max or WWZ.


What preps COULD you have used?

-Friends who could gain you access to food, jobs, travel documents, find you stuff that was hard to get.

-10 years of food and/or a working farm or income producing real estate to be paid in whatever fiat survives.

-10 years of savings.


Truly the only useful preps were a few weeks of goods and a garden and some friends.

If you wanted to not deal with that then the only useful prep was enough money to leave the country and start over somewhere else.


Prepping for anything more than a few weeks of disruption is thus pointless. If it gets that bad, then you leave. Walk if you must, but leave.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:41 | 4642435 Seer
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I agree with many of you points (singular?).

"Prepping for anything more than a few weeks of disruption is thus pointless."

I see "prepping" more to do with transitioning into a different lifestyle.  One is not likely going to retain, regain, or otherwise find one's existing lifestyle to be possible somewhere else (if you're living a higher livestyle that is).

Running off to somewhere else presents the perils of the road.  And arriving some place else?  Who is there?  and at the time one gets there what is the probability that it'll be as it was expected to be when one first started (thought) about going there?

There is no "solution" because solutions are permanent, and this is a changing world.  Adapt to change (that's what nature does) and understand that the fundamentals are Food, Shelter and Water.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 08:45 | 4642673 Global Observer
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Prepping for anything more than a few weeks of disruption is thus pointless.

Well said! The only possible preparation for a collapse is psychological, not physical. Having no expectations from the society at large and adapting quickly is the only realistic way to prepare for a collapse.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:30 | 4642232 SgtShaftoe
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Ah, but you missed one...

preparing for collapse may actually prevent one.


Savor on that thought for a few minutes...  really.  think about it.  It's like an immune response.  We're talking complex systems here after all.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:43 | 4642439 Seer
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All systems fail.

We will "prevent" nothing.  All that can be done is to affect the timeline.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:06 | 4642113 MsCreant
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Preps are great, of course. Smart stuff stored up, a plan in place, puts you well ahead of the game.

What needs to be talked about is the mind set.

When trauma unfolds, there is fight, flight, and freeze. This is what bodies under stress do. This is the only one I have honestly ever worried about. I have frozen in a bad spot before, I hated myself later, but I am alive because someone else had their shit together to get me to move. I have also been the one to save everyone because I was the only one with my head screwed on correctly at the right moment. I have seen both in myself and I can't always know which one of me will show up. 

Mental prep can help some with this. Not fantasy, I am going to kick ass and be a hero, scenarios. Trying as best as you can to ask, what would I really do. Even, can I pull myself out of it if I start to freeze? Freezing is what all mamals do at a certain point. It is natural. But can you pull yourself out of the feeling of being overwhelmed and immobilized?

This may be more valuable that than the beans, rice, and bullets. We are so easily led when we are overwhelmed.

Might add that to a list somewhere.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:45 | 4642385 Serenity Now
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I had a National Geographic Adventure magazine a few years ago that had a special edition about survival.  It was an amazing compilation of stories of survival.....from plane crashes to being lost on a hike.  I can't remember all the details.  What I do remember is that all the survivors had things in common.  Among the top 3 was GETTING OUT OF DENIAL.    I never forgot that.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue with you.  I'm trying to add to your position that a proper mind set is very important.  

My observation is that 99% of people are in denial, so plan accordingly.  

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:05 | 4642115 james.connolly
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Let's take the below at face value, over 60% of the US public belongs to the FSA, ... which means that they will VOTE for CARGO until the USD collapses, and when will that be?

When the US-MIL collapses, and when will that be?

When and if the US-MIL loses WW3. In the meantime, become a MORMON, and solve your fucking abstract problem, if your UN-able to fend for yourself.

>>> #1 Could you come up with $2000 right now? According to a shocking study that was just released, most Americans could not...

[ THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN TRUE, FOREVER its called living paycheck to paycheck ]

Forty percent of individuals in the U.S. said they could not or probably could not come up with $2,000 if an unexpected need arose, according to research by Atif Mian of Princeton University and Amir Sufi of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

#2 In that same study, Americans were asked the following question... "Do you have 3 months emergency funds to cover expenses in case of sickness, job loss, economic downturn?"

[ Same as #1, most people got a week or less of CASH, ... been this way forever, ... worried about this problem? Become a MORMON ]

An astounding 60 percent of people that responded said that they do not.


UNICORNS invest in dried food, it must be making SYNDER rich

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:57 | 4642454 Seer
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Do the numbers surveyed include children (chronlogically noted as)?

Create a sustainable life.

Nothing wrong with "dried food," dehydration is a well-used practice for perserving food. (maybe thinking freeze-dried?  Anyway, I've got none of this... (I'm behind in my quest to do food dehydration)

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