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House Panel Refers IRS' "Teaparty Nemesis" Lois Lerner For Criminal Prosecution
The woman at the center of the IRS-Tea-Party-Targeting debacle is back in the limelight once again as the House Ways and Means Committee voted 23-14 to formally ask the Justice Department to investigate the ex-IRS official. As Fox notes, this appears to be an escalation by the Republicans to confront Lerner over her role in the agency's controversial practice of singling out conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status for extra scrutiny. On another front, a separate committee will vote Thursday on whether to hold her in contempt of Congress for twice refusing to testify on the scandal. Democrats called the move "unprecedented." The question, of course, is just how more 'da fifs' can she plead.
As Fox reports, the rare session on Wednesday to consider a criminal referral produced some partisan fireworks, as Democrats called the move against Lerner "unprecedented."
Rep. Sandy Levin, D-Mich., initially tried to keep the deliberations open to the public and press, triggering a dispute with the chairman as he tried to raise a "point of order."
Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., then told Levin to "chill out."
"I'm very chilled out," he responded.
Despite Levin's objections -- and opposition from the rest of the Democrats on the committee -- lawmakers broke into closed session to debate the measure. After returning, they quickly approved the criminal referral.
A day earlier, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee formally laid out its case for contempt in a new report.
"Lois Lerner's testimony is critical to the committee's investigation," the oversight report stated.
"Without her testimony, the full extent of the IRS's targeting of Tea Party applications cannot be known, and the committee will be unable to fully complete its work."
The report repeatedly called out for Lerner for refusing to cooperate with the committee's investigation.
During her first appearance before the committee last year, Lerner gave an opening statement and then invoked her Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination three times before being excused. Last month, she was before the lawmakers once more, once again exercising her Fifth Amendment rights.
Here is what we have heard from Lerner so far...
“I have not done anything wrong,” she said.
“I have not broken any laws. I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations, and I have not provided false information to this or any other committee.”
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in prison everyone is innocent.
and horny
Should just convene a grand jury as that will eliminate any back room deals and a dog and pony show.
This is just more show for the plebes. Wrist slap or an individual will go down. Never will the power of the agency be questioned. Always just a few bad apples, never the underlying system.
pods
Congress should move on to more pressing matters, like investigating steroids in baseball again.
Holder is totally in the Tea Party's corner on this. Give 'em heck, DOJ!
I think she should be forced to wrestle The Hillary to the death !
Or maybe we can just feed her to all those polar bears starving from global warming that's Al Gore's fault.
AND YOU KAN KISS YOUR DEAD KITTY BOUNCE TA TA NOW!
"Holder is totally in the Tea Party's corner on this. Give 'em heck, DOJ!"
...and without the <sarc> disclaimer, outstanding!
Lois Lerner..,
didn't she, like, marry Superman, or something?
I plead da fizifth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE
Never gets old.
"didn't she, like, marry Superman, or something"..
Maybe, but she was probably doing Lex Luthor on the side.
Also.. asking Holder for justice is like trying to screw a cheese grater.
She tried to. In Superman II she managed to clip his balls but he wised up, ditched her and kicked some ass.
I think the state department should start a Twitter campaign against bullying and force their tweets into everyone's feed.
pods
I am thinking more like they should convene an investigative committee to determine if Lois, the female pattern baldness having, homelier than a mud fence looking, black souled cunt Lerner is paid equitably when compared to her male co-criminala.
She broke no laws but she takes the Fifth on everything? F her! She is working for the people who lawfully filed applications for those groups. She may not like the groups but they were playing the rules and laws. She and her goons should be indicted.
"She is working for the people"
No shit. When is the last fucking time you called one of your employees into your office and they refused to tell you anything?
If THAT doesn't show the American people that these pieces of shit consider themselves to be royalty (the House included), then NOTHING will.
Not holding my breath waiting for the tipping point though. Bread and circuses (and a population with addled intellects) is working quite well. SAME FUCKING TRIBE at them helm of both the bread and the circuses (AND the addlepating) and THAT is a FACT no matter how many soulless hasbara pieces of shit chime in with non sequiturs or down arrow me.
I can only hope that the affliction affecting bankers will start afflicting IRS execs...and soon.
IRS employees are unionized statists loyal to the Party of government and it's president's plan to put the IRS into individual healthcare behavior enforcement. What a huge surprise that they heard the statist dog whistle loud and clear, and systematically went after the statists' and the presidents' most threatening enemies free speech in the run up to 2012, following the 2010 loss of the house over Obamacare? It's all so surprising, unexpected! The answer to weaponization of the sprawling federal bureaucracy involves ending unionization and absurd levels of job security in those. Also, reducing their scope of missions and ability to make law on their own for their own purposes. Also, taxing the hell out of former government workers who appear on the other side of the table making millions off their insider knowledge and influence.
The govt workers now have no accountability to the people they supposedly represent.
Another chosen one. Does anyone here really expect anything meaningful to come of gov't action against her? It should be crystal clear by now they get a "pass" when it comes to malfeasance. Punsihment is reserved for the Goyim.
and the horney part blows away the "I was born gay" meme.
oh and jail the bitch at Rikers until she squeals like a pig.
In Massachusetts, the libs believe that the IRS never targeted the Tea Party groups even though the IRS broke the story themselves by admitting in a press conference that they were targeting Tea Party groups in order to front run a report that would be coming out with the same conclusion, that the IRS had targeted Tea Party groups.
The poor helpless IRS was bamboozled by the Koch brothers and Fox News, and got so confused that they gave a forced confession, and then when they tried to take it back the evil House of Representatives put them in a corner!
NOBODY PUTS BABY IN A CORNER!
Then the IRS backpedalled and said that they also targeted liberal groups. (uh huh). The Libs then pointed to that as proof that the IRS had no ill intent towards true patriots.
Curious then that we didn't and haven't heard a peep from any of the supposedly 'targeted' lib groups.
Since the 16 Amendment was never "Legally" ratified, what is the Law that says I have to pay an Income Tax on my wages??? All I have to do is file a tax return with my signature on it. So what if I claim $0.00 income? All I need to do is file a 1040 with my signature. NOTHING MORE!!!
invoking the Constitution is exactly the sort of thing that got/gets you on DHS SPLC lists of potential terrorists.
funny that invoking the 5th, however, gets you re-assigned and neither fired nor demoted. More of the Zio filth's "do as we say, not as we do".
Move along...nothing to see here
FiF of November?
In response, racist trash Obama files additional hate crimes charges against the ONE white person ever caught "playing" the knockout "game" with negroes!
FiF de Mayo or is it Fif de Quatro?
"Da Fif" is just a way for these high ranking officials to say "I'm guilty as h*ll but I don't think you can prove I did anything wrong". The Republicans did well to get it investigated, but now they need to really pay attention to WHO is doing the investigation. Is that guy from the Arby's commercials looking for work...
You mean this guy??
“I have not done anything wrong,” she said.
“I have not broken any laws. I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations, and I have not provided false information to this or any other committee.”
Rigggghhhtttt!!
I think you're wrong. Unlike any other department in the US government including the CIA, the IRS has absolute power to do what ever they see fit to generate revenue.
After the American Revolution, after the economic destruction of ten or more years , leaving the nation in fiat debt hell, ripping off starving veterans pensions, appointing themseves to new offices and enacting crony shipping laws, the new thugs needed to have a customs/whiskey tax agencies to begin to show ability to banks to borrow on the citizens shoulders. The old Crown office was the Inland Revenue Agency. ( Kind of like old regime secret police seemlessly go to work for the new regime )
politics
Worse than that.
If the Republican leadership was even remotely interested in discovering the truth, a select
comittee would have been appointed long ago.Same with Benghazi.
Which means they are complicit in both conspiracies IMO.
BENGHAZI!
Thank you for providing evidence of your insanity.
...and for your stupidity.
circus for the serfs...
there is no republican or democrat...
just the MoneyChangers who r the real government...
Since when do government employees get to plead the fifth on thier duties? She should be in jail now for even trying to claim 5th amd protection. Her lawyer too.
The amount of sheer ignorance on this board seems to be gowing exponentially.
First, no American can be forced to intimidate themselves and open themselves to criminal prosecution. Most recently, reer to David Wildstein in the NJ mess.
Second, if these Congressional Freaks running this witch hunt Committee really wanted answers, they could offer up immunity, but nooo, that would ruin the theater. After all, the only point is to drag this out and get as much TV time for the yahoos like Trey Gowdy and Darrell Issa as possible.
Much like Bengoozi, a CIA operation that no one (not even Republicans) really wants to discuss in a substantive way, this is largely a tempest in a teapot.....and will go exactly no where.
Having gone through an audit, I have no love lost for the IRS. The problem in the last campaign cycle was the Supreme Court opeing the floodgates to campaign finance. I actually have less love for the Supreme Court than the IRS, something I would have thought impossible until the past few years. The IRS was quickly flooded with applications for Tax Exempt status.
Anyone who would prefer a little more light than heat about this, check out this article - http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/05/irs-scandal-tea-pa...
The real scandal is that we allow these shadow organizations, regardless of "party" affiliations, to garner tax exempt status at all. The interrpretation of the statute has been bastardized far beyond the original intent for over 40 years. From the article linked above:
"It’s important to review why the Tea Party groups were petitioning the I.R.S. anyway. They were seeking approval to operate under section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Code. This would require them to be “social welfare,” not political, operations. There are significant advantages to being a 501(c)(4). These groups don’t pay taxes; they don’t have to disclose their donors—unlike traditional political organizations, such as political-action committees. In return for the tax advantage and the secrecy, the 501(c)(4) organizations must refrain from traditional partisan political activity, like endorsing candidates.
If that definition sounds murky—that is, if it’s unclear what 501(c)(4) organizations are allowed to do—that’s because it is murky. Particularly leading up to the 2012 elections, many conservative organizations, nominally 501(c)(4)s, were all but explicitly political in their work. For example, Americans for Prosperity, which was funded in part by the Koch Brothers, was an instrumental force in helping the Republicans hold the House of Representatives. In every meaningful sense, groups like Americans for Prosperity were operating as units of the Republican Party. Democrats organized similar operations, but on a much smaller scale. (They undoubtedly would have done more, but they lacked the Republican base for funding such efforts.)
So the scandal—the real scandal—is that 501(c)(4) groups have been engaged in political activity in such a sustained and open way. As Fred Wertheimer, the President of Democracy 21, a government-ethics watchdog group, put it, “it is clear that a number of groups have improperly claimed tax-exempt status as section 501(c)(4) ‘social welfare’ organizations in order to hide the donors who financed their campaign activities in the 2010 and 2012 federal elections.”
The Tribe is going to have their hands full on this. They pushed the pendulum too far. They always do.
Lerner ...... Levin.......
If a tree falls in the forest and the sheeple only watch 100% tribal contolled MSM.. then did it make any noise?
lemmings...
"Lerner.......Levin....."
Don't forget IRS commissioner Doug Schulman.
Fucking TRIBE printing the money, counting the money, lending the money, stealing the money, and acting as the strong-armed collection agency.
FUCK EVERY>>>LAST>>>>ONE>>>OF>>>THEM
Indict her and let her fucking sing.
This will lead to even more criminal activity being exposed within the Service.
BTW, we all know the IRS is an equal opportunity extortionist
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2013/12/08/obama-claims-there-was-no-irs-scan...
See my post above. This tactic is actually working in liberal dominions. There was no scandal even though we found out about the scandal from an IRS press conference.
The more reason someone should go to jail. Then let them deny it.
IMPEACH
Makes a change for someone in the IRS to get a good thorough anal inspection - usually the reverse applies. There may be a god after all...
What is unprecedented is having the Justice Department investigate anything.
'Good luck with your asparagus'.
"What is unprecedented is having the Justice Department investigate anything."
Remember..., the DOJ is merely the cleaning crew.
DOJ=Oxymoron, or if your prefer Oxymorons.
Let's imagine Lerner was taking her direction from the White House. If she has a real lawyer, he'd be talking to the prosecutor about what her testimony might reveal if the prosecution proceeds . . .
her boss was also Jewish? shocked!!
But then she'd never be able to go above the ground floor, sit in a hot tub, own a nail gun, drive a Mercedes.....
It's a long list.
Beat me to it, WB! Holder will get right on it.
Yep, just remember he has extra special vast latitude in prosecution. Like fucking making up stuff out of whole cloth. FUCKING CROOKED TO THE CORE!
That is why they need an independent council. The fact there is not is evidence of collusion between both parties. Thats how I see it. The main stream republicans (meaning corrupt ones) do not like the Tea party either so anything done to slow them down is wonderful news for both parties.
AG Holder is too busy tracking down cars with Ron Paul bumper stickers.....
With that fuckwad nazi Eric Holder running things at DOJ, Lerner will be getting a promotion.
Don't give nazis a bad name by comparing them with Holder.
"you don't want to go there buddy"
Of course dems would be pissed. That bitches holds the keys to some not so good publicity right before mid terms...
Groups that give money to candidates or others for campaigns or related political reasons should be targeted for extra scrutiny. The system is being abused in a big way. For example, anyone who believes any organization that Karl Rove is involved with is an educational or charitable organization needs their head examined. Even though the Koch Brothers do donate a lot of money to charity, almost all of their political contributions shouldn't qualify for tax exempt status.
Lets treat the unions the same way then.
I'm sure you will agree, its only fair after all.
I agree with you both.
So it was OK that the IRS delayed and refused to give tax exampt status to tea party organizations? This, in light of the much larger numbers of left leaning organizations that already had tax exempt status?
You got anything to back up your claim?
Why no mention of George Soros and the millions he sends to the Obama team through non profits and NGOs? Bet you just forgot about him ......
Perp walk.
"Justice Department" Now that is a complete f---ing joke! No-thing will come of this waste of time!
Of course because as Holder recently said he has vast discretion in the enforcement of the law.
Lois just say "What difference does it make now". That seems to work and then you can run for president. What's a little illegal misuse of govt office compared to murder. Too bad Tricky Dick is dead. All this corruption and deception makes eavesdropping look laughable.
Thank god she did not say "I dont recall".
I'll refer you to the justice dept for further comment.
We can't comment because this is still an ongoing investigation.
With the Bill of Rights now in the trash does she still get 5th amemendment rights?
I'm so fucking confused here. The Republicans fought to make all deliberations closed to the press and public, while the Democrats wanted it open to the press and public. The scandal is one that would paint Republicans as targets of a vengful Democratic party, yet they wanted to keep deliberations closed? Something shady was done to get the referal to the FBI. I'm a bit surprised as the Tea-Party has been targeting established Republicans, which is why I think a deal was struck between the Dems and Repubs on the committee to go after the Tea-Party as a team.
Yep , same as Boner and the repugs knew exactly what was going down that caused
the Benghazi attack.The illegal funneling of arms from Libya thru' Turkey to AlCiada.
Exactly. Both "hearings" are nothing more than dog & pony shows to whip up the base.
Seems to be working very well on ZH. Just whistle & the lap dogs come running.
Ex-IRS Pirate Killed Family Before Hanging Herself
"Ex-IRS Pirate Killed Family Before Hanging Herself"
Dare to dream. Let's hope she has a BIG fucking family, and considers her extended family and their extended families and theirs....to be family. Seems to work with regard to hiring practices.
Surely this is political, but my money is on (note) Holder finding no reason to prosecute, much less investigate. Holder is the real criminal and should have already been brought up for impeachment for lying to congress multiple times. The DOJ will do nothing, but Benghazi will come up again (though that's a trump card against Hillary which the Reps may want to hold until 2015 or later). Meanwhile, the heat should be put to Holder. He's the key law-breaker in the administration, because he won't bring charges against anybody.
I hate that scum-sucking dirt-bag worse than I hate Obama, and that's saying a lot. I hope Eric Holder dies a painful death and there is a hell in which he can burn for eternity.
I'm right there with you. Instead of paying that treasonous turd just put a bucket of horse shit on his desk. We save his salary and we get the same results without having to listen to his bullshit or see his fucking face.
Sometimes a liar stands out like a sore thumb. If she did not do anything wrong why in the hell exercise the fifth. It is because the chain of command regarding this unconstitutional act goes higher up than what we are supposed to know. What many do not report is: The DOJ found that nothing criminal happened from their "investigation'. However, not one single victim was interviewed by the DOJ. Can someone please explain to me how there can be an investigation without any of the victims being interviewed? So much for fairness under the law.
When did the DOJ publish any results of an investigation?
Fucking abolish the Fed and the criminal irs already. We the people have suffered for 100 with these crooks robbing us and ruining our lives.
JFDI
Taxation is theft.
Start by enforcing the law against theft.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdeo7Q2E5cE
Nothing will become of this because establishment Republicans wanted the Tea Party types targeted just as much as the Democrats do (see: McCain, Boehner, etc..). Biggest crime in America is to upset the two-party (one party) system.
She strikes me as an absolute party loyalist who will keep her trap shut, do the time and reap a big secret payoff.
She'll flee to Israel before anything happens to her.
i smell a pardon
Just another dog & pony show to distract us from-STACKING BITCHEZZ!!!
Did she get fired and lost of all her government bennies and goodies by pleading da fif ? I'm pretty sure if my employer (in this case, the American taxpayer) would suspect foul play on my part and asked questions that I would explicitly not answer, he'd show me the door pretty fucking quick.
The person is not broken, the system is broken.
Lerner is the skapegoat for the IRS.
Lerner is the skapegoat for the tribe that runs the IRS. Fixed for you.
//Sure, Lerner is a toxic roach... BUT... what is a far more serious situation is that this craven, lying bitch has had many conversations with Holder's "Justice" Dept... probably explaining ALL the facts... and Holder REFUSES to turn over information from those talks to congressional committees... then, the maggot Dem Libroids on this committee vote to NOT hold this lying skank in Contempt??? Headed for a BIG breakdown... SOON.
Too bad the public can't be required to watch some of these hearings. If they did, they would end quickly, as they are obvious theater put on for a few partisan hacks. They preen and strut their stuff while trying to act like super bad asses, badgering and demeaning witnesses, and ignoring any opportunity to deliver a balanced report of facts.
Is it any wonder that Congress has approval ratings lower than used car salesmen?
I want to see the cracks of "cooperation" and then the administration (and Democrats) throw her under the bus as the "rouge" agent who went "Gen. Jack Ripper" on those dastardly Tea Party applicants.
The two Team prosper by creating bullshit for their true-believing (R)etards and (D)umbasses.
And both Teams agree on the bullshit that keeps the loot flowing to Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState.
If backpedaling was an olympic event, the ZERO administration would take the gold...hands down.
IRS, Benghazi, F&F, TOTUScare ect...
We need to have the "knock out game" played with politicians, government "officials" and BANKSTERS as targets. Then hopefully it will escalate to just shooting them for treason.
“I have not broken any laws. I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations, and I have not provided false information to this or any other committee.”
So, you haven't committed any crimes, but you are pleadin da FiF (F-I-F FiiiiFFFF) to avoid self-incrimination? Is she a liar, a moron, or both?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxE_oQBwrdU
"So many amendments in the Constitution, which one do I pick? I plead da FiF!"
Distraction from the impending false flag event to create the cover-up of the economic corruptions and crimes and planed economic crash # 9,825,418,905,473,733.3
Why do the NAtional ZIonists always do something terrible and un-Godly on the Christian holidays, or on hitlers birthday? What does history tell us about false flag events to DECEIVE nations into making war on each other that are performed in April?
Where are the bushes?
Who profits in war??
i don't know what the democraps are so upset about - communist eric holder will do nothing about the referral of criminal charges. and republishits won't follow through....this is all political theater and nothing more....but i am glad the totalitarian cunt is getting this much...i am sure "obama" will send a drone to murder her if it gets out of hand....loretta fuddy - if she indeed was killed - was easy to knock off....as were "obama's" 3 ex-boyfriends, so this bitch should be a walk in the park.
DONT THINK SHE CAN DO THE TIME......... KEEP AWAY FROM TALL BUILDINGS, AUTOMOBILES.....etc
Holder has dead bodies lying all around him and he gets contempt of Congress.
"You don't want to go there".
"Fuck you Holder. We're going there as soon as somebody starts impeachment hearings."
Then I woke up...
Senior crims, making junior crims fight to cause uncertanty and force greater loyalty to their cause. Just like Mr H. See which turd floats to the top.
Until you put Holder behind bars nothing, nada, will come of this.
I'd be down for a military coup with firing squads and all!
All puffery, the Republicans are all sell out whore-enuchs with a decade long record of co-looting.
If they had any balls they'd impeach all the ring leaders and forget the criminal prosecution, criminally prosecute after impeachment, its easier.
Let's ask the fox to guard the henhouse!
Rope and lamp posts for all!
This woman should be up for treason and not because the tea party stuff.
https://shoebat.com/2014/03/18/malik-obama-scandal-blowing-egypt-u-s-emb...
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And not only that the same charity she signed off on was being used to provide material support for HAMAS.
https://shoebat.com/2014/01/30/malik-obamas-boss-pledges-allegiance-hamas/
Sham it is to protect Oman nothing more or else they wouldn't have the DOJ investigating it. That is like having the SEC investigate something.
Maybe "Old Numbnuts" can have someone find her an position that offers immunity like that other lying dimwitted, bag person, Susan Rice..... The mirror image of accountablity and professionalism. Shame shame shame!
Best case, the treasonous bitch takes the fall, goes to club-fed for 4 and a half months, comes out and goes out on the $50,000 a speech circuit, gets a multi-million $$$ book deal and lands a $350,000 a year "consulting gig and two $75,000 a year plus perks boardships.
Did I forget anything?
"But the guillotine will not forget."