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The Richest Rich Have Never Been Richer Than The Rest Of Us

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"The message for strivers is that if you want to be very, very rich, start out very rich," is the wondrous conclusion Bloomberg BusinessWeek's Peter Coy has from delving into the details of the latest data on income growth in America. The richest 0.1 percent of the American population has rebuilt its share of wealth back to where it was in the Roaring Twenties. And the richest 0.01 percent’s share has grown even more rapidly, quadrupling since the eve of the Reagan Revolution.

As the following chart shows, via Saez and Zucman's latest data, "top wealth has surged," as they dispel any belief that inequality in wealth has grown less than income inequality - it hasn't. Saez final words are perhaps the most worrisome for the richest of the rich (or not given their ability to afford the best lawyers, money-launderers, and politicians), "wealth-specific taxes become important tools to think about," just as the IMF has suggested.

 

 

The bottom nine-tenths of the 1 Percent club have about the same slice of the national wealth pie that they had a generation ago. The gains have accrued almost exclusively to the top tenth of 1 Percenters. The richest 0.1 percent of the American population has rebuilt its share of wealth back to where it was in the Roaring Twenties. And the richest 0.01 percent’s share has grown even more rapidly, quadrupling since the eve of the Reagan Revolution.

 

As Bloomberg BusinessWeek's Peter Coy notes, these figures come out of a clever analysis by economists Emmanuel Saez of the University of California at Berkeley and Gabriel Zucman of the London School of Economics, who is a visiting professor at Berkeley. The Internal Revenue Service asks about income, not wealth, which is the market value of real estate, stocks, bonds, and other assets. Saez and Zucman were able to deduce wealth by exploiting IRS data going back to when the federal income tax was instituted in 1913.

Source: Bloomberg BusinessWeek

 

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Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:17 | 4641822 ebworthen
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Time to storm the Bastille!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:18 | 4641830 ArkansasAngie
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By doing what they are doing they are duluting OUR share of the economy.  Gives them even more control

Screw'em

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:19 | 4642005 AlaricBalth
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"We Americans are not usually thought to be a submissive people, but of course we are. Why else would we allow our country to be destroyed? Why else would we be rewarding its destroyers? Why else would we all — by proxies we have given to greedy corporations and corrupt politicians — be participating in its destruction? Most of us are still too sane to piss in our own cistern, but we allow others to do so and we reward them for it. We reward them so well, in fact, that those who piss in our cistern are wealthier than the rest of us.

How do we submit? By not being radical enough. Or by not being thorough enough, which is the same thing."

Wendell Berry, Compromise, Hell!!!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:45 | 4642070 BLOTTO
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Knowledge is the ultimate 'richness' on this spiritual journey...

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The bottom feeders could easily rise to the top if they would just awake from their slumber and acquire knowledge...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 08:15 | 4642575 TruthHunter
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"The bottom feeders could easily rise to the top"

 

Don't ignore the Bell curve. For everyone on the right side there is 

someone at the other end. For everyone at 99 percentile in acquisitiveness,

there is someone who can't acquire breakfast without help.

Unfortunately, being in the top 1% doesn't mean one is even 50 percentile

in empathy and compassion.

If the shoe fits wear it...If it pinches, it fits too close.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:47 | 4642076 Doubleguns
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"....these figures come out of a clever analysis by economists Emmanuel Saez of the University of California at Berkeley and Gabriel Zucman of the London School of Economics...."

 

Clever analysis? Are we being maniupulated....some. Just curious cuz this seems to be pushing us in a certain direction. 

 

Berkeley and Economists? Really. Where were they when this shit started going down. Just saying!!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 09:20 | 4642786 drstrangelove73
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Exactly.
I am wondering if by"clever analysis,"they mean"pulled it out of their respective nether regions"

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 02:44 | 4642277 Seer
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Just mentioning Wendell Berry gets an automatic up-vote from me.

"For the relief of the suffering ... our economy proposes, not health, but vast 'cures' that further centralize power and increase profit . . . and these of course are followed by more regulating laws and agencies to see that our health is protected, our freedom preserved, and our money well spent."

- Wendell Berry, The Unsettling of America

A person dependent on somebody else for everything from potatoes to opinions may declare that he is a free man, and his government may issue a certificate granting him his freedom, but he will not be free. He is that variety of specialist known as a consumer, which means that he is the abject dependent of producers. How can he be free if he can do nothing for himself? What is the First Amendment to him whose mouth is stuck to the tit of the "affluent society"?

- Wendell Berry

?The people will eat what the corporations decide for them to eat. They
will be detached and remote from the sources of their life, joined to them
only be corporate tolerance. They will have become consumers purely ?
consumptive machines ? which is to say, the slaves of producers?it is
impossible to mechanize production without mechanizing consumption,
impossible to make machines of soil, plans and animals without making
machines also of people.?

- Wendell Berry

And my favorite:

Whether we and our politicians know it or not, Nature is party to all our deals and decisions, and she has more votes, a longer memory, and a sterner sense of justice than we do.

- Wendell Berry

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:29 | 4641856 Greenskeeper_Carl
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no, time to end the fed. This is attempt to incite class warfare, without actually acknowledging the real problem.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:46 | 4641902 ArkansasAngie
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The real problem is those who failed and should be bankrupt right now aren't because they were bailed out.

And now the fed is spoon feeding them money to keep the zombies alive at our expense.  

Vote out Congress.  End the Fed.  Bring in the cops.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:55 | 4642093 db51
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Bring in the cops?  LMFAO....That was a good one.  Eric Holder to lead the charge.  We're fucked.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:16 | 4642131 Bob
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True dat.  But maybe a new congress . . .

Damn, the rogue Obama gurl just saw beyond that! 

Then again, only a lunatic would imagine a world free of .gov of some sort.  Without that, we're back to a world controlled by Warlords, albeit armed only with mind-boggling money and a system meritoriously defined in those very same terms. 

I think simply removing "private" money--now known as "speech," lol--from politics could go a long way in righting this sinking ship. 

Sorry 'bout the sordid "populism" that would likely follow, eventually, but I guess I'm really just a conservative at heart. 

Even removing their money would not hamstring the Mighty Rich in their quest for control. Of everything.

'Cuz they've earned it.

Galt Gone Wild. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:13 | 4642296 Seer
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"Then again, only a lunatic would imagine a world free of .gov of some sort.  Without that, we're back to a world controlled by Warlords, albeit armed only with mind-boggling money and a system meritoriously defined in those very same terms. "

It might be that you are incapable of thinking outside the box.

Note that the historical norm for human structures is NOT based on some large instututionalized govt (nor a "small" one), but on tribes/clans.  People are so thoroughly programmed to think in terms of disgust when these things come up that they are dismissed outright, and never mind that the "sane" means of governing are temporary (all) and end violently.  Pay now or pay later.  Don't fall into the trap of believing that "together" we can eliminate risk.

"Even removing their money would not hamstring the Mighty Rich in their quest for control. Of everything."

The "Mighty Rich" are only "rich" because we enable them through their System.  But...

A person dependent on somebody else for everything from potatoes to opinions may declare that he is a free man, and his government may issue a certificate granting him his freedom, but he will not be free. He is that variety of specialist known as a consumer, which means that he is the abject dependent of producers. How can he be free if he can do nothing for himself? What is the First Amendment to him whose mouth is stuck to the tit of the "affluent society"?

- Wendell Berry

Do people demand a really just system? Well, we'll arrange it so that they'll be satisfied with one that's a little less unjust ... They want a revolution, and we'll give them reforms -- lots of reforms; we'll drown them in reforms. Or rather, we'll drown them in promises of reforms, because we'll never give them real ones either!!

- DARIO FO, Accidental Death of an Anarchist

"You never change anything by fighting the existing. To change something, build a new model and make the existing obsolete."

- Buckminster Fuller

 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:57 | 4642540 CH1
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But maybe a new congress

That was sarc, right?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 02:20 | 4642265 Global Observer
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And now the fed is spoon feeding them money to keep the zombies alive at our expense.

The first part about the Fed keeping the zombies alive is true but the "at our expense" part is not, unless you are someone outside the US/West. For over 4 decades now the populations of the US/West have been enriching themselves at the expense of the rest of the world. After the 2007-8 collapse, it has been restricted to just the ultra-rich in the West. After the next collapse when the ultra-rich in the West can no longer siphon off wealth from the rest of the world simply by printing currency, it is then that the actual looting of resources in the West to benefit the elite at the expense of the rest of the population will begin.

To put it in another way, the common people of the West stopped receiving a share of the loot after 2007-8 collapse. After the next collapse, they will be in the same position that the common folks in the rest of the world have been for decades now.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:14 | 4642297 Seer
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Catabolic collapse...

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:16 | 4641992 Harbanger
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Yep, it's leftist class warfare tripe.  What's happening is the entire country is becoming poorer, people with more wealth are better able to protect themselves against the currency rape by the Fed.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:31 | 4642034 TheReplacement
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No those at the top are not just able to protect themselves from the Fed they are meant to directly benefit from the Fed's actions.  This is a criminal action - plunder and theft, not class warfare.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:48 | 4642078 Harbanger
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Those that "directly" benefit from the Fed's actions are those that belong to the Banker cabal.  It's a very small group of people, not defined by wealth but by criminality.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:38 | 4642239 James_Cole
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Those that "directly" benefit from the Fed's actions are those that belong to the Banker cabal. 

No, it would be the wealthy - folks who make decent amount of their cash from capital gains. Nothing to do with criminality. 

http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/wages-vs-capital-gains....

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:17 | 4642302 Seer
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The "ciminality" is that of perpetuating highly unsustainable practices.  It is done at the expense of others (to-date mostly the distant) and at the expense of the future.  These are not "laws" that TPTB have on their books, nor are they the "laws" passed down by the "founders." (there is no notion of Seventh Generation in our culture)

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:37 | 4642051 James_Cole
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What's happening is the entire country is becoming poorer, people with more wealth are better able to protect themselves against the currency rape by the Fed.

C'mon seriously.. you don't think the Fed is a tool of the very rich to enrich themselves further? Banks being the same? The whole modern concept of debt is solely to usurp power (globaly especially).

Power / debt / money are synonymous, don't get how people miss this simple architecture of global power systems..

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:01 | 4642107 Harbanger
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"C'mon seriously.. you don't think the Fed is a tool of the very rich to enrich themselves further?"

No I don't.  Ophra is rich, is she out to get you?  I think the very rich in Hollywood are out to get all of us.  You have to do some soul searching and see why you believe that wealth is always gotten through ill means.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:32 | 4642235 James_Cole
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You have to do some soul searching and see why you believe that wealth is always gotten through ill means.

Depends on your definition of 'ill gotten,' fed res is a perfectly legal institution.

When you have a group of people with similar interests / objectives it's not surprising to see them working together to those ends...literally that's the inception / history of the fed res to a t re working for the extremely wealthy. 

The objectives / interests of the 0.1% are not likely to be compatible with the general population obviously.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:21 | 4642304 Seer
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"No I don't.  Ophra is rich, is she out to get you?"

She doesn't have to spend the energy.

It's about CONTROL.  PERIOD.  Having others do the hard work.

It's the great feat by the System, to sucker people into supporting it because people want to be just like their oppressors (though, as the article notes, the chance is extremely low- kill "death taxes" so that the ruling clans can continue to spread their genes).

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:38 | 4642242 sessinpo
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 ebworthen     Time to storm the Bastille!

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Unless it's your bastille, right?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:05 | 4642291 ebworthen
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Don't have one; I'm eating moldy bread in a hovel - down with the King(s)!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:25 | 4642342 sessinpo
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ebworthen   Don't have one; I'm eating moldy bread in a hovel - down with the King(s)!

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You miss the point. People attack those that have more then themselves. Until they are those that are attacked. BTW. I eat Ramen Noodles regularly so I am one of those under the rich. Yet, I aspire (like I suspect most of us) to be rich. So why would we attack the rich while aspiring to be one of them?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:14 | 4642368 Lebensphilosoph
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Oh, right, because as we all know, the French Revolution was an uprising of 'the people' and not a coup instigated by the rich bourgeoisie to seize the power of the state for themselves and enslave the peasantry to industrial capitalism.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:26 | 4641826 TBT or not TBT
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Those with first access to the river of newly created money get the most benefit out of it.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:28 | 4641840 Dr. Engali
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Hmmmm 1913...... That year rings a bell. What else happened in 1913 that might funnel wealth upwards? What other illegal creature was ushered in under the cover of night? Oh well...... The answer eludes me. Back to eating my monosodium glutamate filled Cheetos and watching WWF. Hey bitch bring me another beer, and kick the dog for me on your way in here!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:32 | 4641862 Greenskeeper_Carl
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yes, the creation of the fed. but lets not forget the other things that came out of 1913. The income tax, and the direct election of US senators, who used to be under the conrol of the state legeslators. repealing the entire year would be a nice stsrt

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:33 | 4641868 FeralSerf
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Barry has been good to those on top. Does anyone doubt who owns him?

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:36 | 4641873 1ifbyland
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Anarchist porn

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 22:59 | 4641942 Skateboarder
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"End the Fed."

Three magic words everyone likes to say, but it takes an entire willing nation to do that, especially now that they have their own armed Fed Police at every branch.

One does not simply walk into Mordor, but one million can.

The best you can hope for is that individual people will not submit when bullied.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:25 | 4642307 Seer
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"The best you can hope for is that individual people will not submit when bullied."

I like wise people.

Ending the Fed does nothing to resovle the issues about our debt levels (which are impossible to repay) nor does it magically create non-existent physical resources that would be necessary to pump up "growth."  The Fed is a symptom, a nasty looking sore for sure, but it's not THE problem (which is our inability to realize perpetual growth on a finite planet).

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 10:03 | 4642914 Dexter Morgan
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The Fed is the problem, period.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:08 | 4641968 Kina
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They all be King Louis XVI....

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:16 | 4642370 Lebensphilosoph
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Actually, they all be the same class - and in many cases the very same families - that instigated the French Revolution and murdered France's sovereign.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:10 | 4641974 Caviar Emptor
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It'll treeckle down...if you become a butler!
Domestic servants of the roaring twenties will make huge come back: valet, groomsman, stable boy, scullery maid, lady in waiting, footman, char woman .
These are the quality jobs of the future!

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:49 | 4642083 nasa
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The lucky ones will.  The rest will be sent to the fields to return full circle to their place in the natural order of things.  Welcome to the New World Order...

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:14 | 4641981 Colonel Klink
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Just like Warren Buffet said so eloquently, it's class warfare, and his class is winning.

Wake up America and turn the tables.  Do something, anything, that fights the corporations, government, and the uber wealthy.  Or embrace your slavery on bent knee.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:48 | 4642196 Bunga Bunga
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Not long and there will be nothing to win anymore. These rich fuckers will then start to fuck up each other.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:19 | 4642221 Colonel Klink
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That's already started to happen, think Lehman and Bear Sterns.  Only thing propping this shit show up is the Feral (sic) Reserve.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:46 | 4642252 Global Observer
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May be Americans are not sleeping and have accepted "slavery on bent knee"? What will it take for you to acknowledge that?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:28 | 4642308 Seer
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I'll take another option: walk away.  Start seeing them as irrelevant and they become irrelevant.  There's a saying in the entertainment industry: "it's not what they're saying about you that matters, it's that they're talking about you" (or similar).

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:33 | 4642012 chindit13
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Speaking of rich...

In 1990 the Burmese Government top ticked the Japan Bubble and sold its embassy in Tokyo, in a two part deal, for $600 million.  Burma funded its government for a year just off of that sale.

Today, owing to Burma's "frontier market" status (that means they are/were a debt outlier), the Japanese Government could sell its embassy in Yangon for $600 million.  Of course that's only about 22 seconds of Abenomics.  What is truly startling is that in 1990, Japanese per capita GDP was probably $35-40K, while in 2014 in Burma, per capita income is still less than $500.  Qini Coefficient is approaching infinity.

Land in the toniest (a relative term) residential areas of Yangon is now among the most expensive on the planet, rivaling Lutyen's Delhi in India, Knightsbridge or Kensington in the UK, or the Peak in Hong Kong, while dwarfing Greenwich or the Hamptons.  (Dependable power, potable water, and sewerage are extra.)  What would have sold for $100K an acre in 2000 is now on the market for $53 million (Pyay Road, Lanmadaw/Hledan area).  Absolute madness.  They're playing Musical Chairs with no band and one-legged stools.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:18 | 4642146 james.connolly
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So when Uncle Marc Faber tell's us all to "INVEST IN MYANMAR", you think maybe he a little late?

Just joking, I like it up in north of Myanmar, but those Malaysia Airline flights flying low over the jungle kill the sleeping time.

I find the SHAN State fascinating, there is so much CIA money and Goldman Sack's investing, and MURDER, and they're still working hard to DAM every river up north, once upon a time when the JAP's held BURMA in WW2 the jap's planned to DAM the last free running rivers in ASIA and pump the hydro up to JAPAN,... since then the CIA has taken that plan, but the locals non to keen about getting pushed out of the BUSH in the areas to be flooded have put up a fight for some 40+ years, leading to zillion's murder & rape,.. all orchestrated by CIA.

I agree with you that Prices have gone MAD, but let's also be honest to say that MYANMAR is Colonel Kurtz's (apocolypse now) paradise, even now still as we speak, ... its all murder and rape,... and its all paid for by the CIA. Eventually everybody will be dead, and then GOLDMAN-SACKS can get their ROI.

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What goes on in YANGOON (WEALTH) and the level of MURDER (Industrial Slaughter) up north, is a model of how USA should be where WASH-DC is Yangoon, and the North Myanmar is the Rest of America.

 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:37 | 4642180 chindit13
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The killing is all done or abetted by your current landlords.  China money, China weapons, China poison gas artillery shells killing Kachin....plus the PLA is stealing Kachin and Wa girls to sell to the lovelorn One Male Policy surplus of China.  Near you (Kunming?) is where the PLA runs their arms onward to Burma, the Naxalites in India, and the Marxists in Nepal.

Once Burma let in the World Bank and IMF---which to some extent obviated the 'renegade province' China had made of the entire country (China still has the northeast)---the USG and all its alphabet groups (who at most had one person in country, and that person did liaison re terror) lost interest in the place.  I think your info, if it was ever accurate, is about fifty or sixty years old.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 02:54 | 4642282 james.connolly
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Funny how two people can look at a situation and see a completely different villain.

While I concur that you may feel my observation's are dated, and see plenty of Refugees coming and going in Myanmar, and I speak decent SHAN, and I have rarely ever met a little girl who hasn't been raped or had a brother murdered.

The war is still on, and its STILL financed by GOLDMAN-SACKS/JPM, and its still the CIA in control of the MURDER, but now the customer for the HYDRO is CHINA and no longer the Jap's.

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Have you lived here in the SHAN state, do you ever come here and hang out and get high with these people and live with them in the jungle?

Glad that you mentioned KUNGMING, but I have also mentioned that to get to KUNMING it takes me 2-4 days by bus, if I'm lucky. I live just over the border.

Allow me to say also, that SHOULD a little SHAN girl find a China that would marry her and take her back to CHINA, and get her out of HELL, that little GAL would have won the lottery.

I don't know where you live CHINDIT, me think BKK, but I can tell you first hand here in the North of Myanmar these little girls are still fucking for $1, not that I want to have anything to do with that shit,... I'm just pointing out that like you said, the price of human tissue is still very low in this part of the world, and if is even worth less.

Lastly, I repeat its all financed by the WEST ran by the CIA, and yes CHINA is the customer, and WEST has TOO MUCH FUCKING INVESTED to walk away from the JAP WW2 dream of making MYANMAR one big fucking HYDRO supply.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 08:06 | 4642553 chindit13
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Sorry---what is it this week, James?---but I don't agree with what you wrote.  For the better part of the time since 1962, none of the folks you mentioned---from the alphabets to GS to JPM---gave a hoot about Burma.  Even today, those guys are all smart enough to know there are lots of pie-in-the-sky dreams, but little real money to be made in Burma, and now that the Burmese have grown tired of China trying to make another Tibet out of the place and have given the Chinese the bum's rush, even the USG doesn't much care about it.  I suspect the Burmese will let everybody stuff them full of debt, then default or repudiate, re-install the Tatmadaw/Junta, but be nice enough to say a heartfelt 'thank you' for the new roads, power grid, port facilities, etc.

The prevailing view around ZH of the alphabets is pure Hollywood B-fare and pulp fiction.  It's the Downing Effect of "awareness", as naive and gullible in its own way as anything attributed to the oft-maligned "sheeple".  I guess it's fun for folks to believe certain things, so far be it for me to get in the way of a good time.

As for the girls drugged and kidnapped by the PLA then sold as brides or brothel meat in China, I've met a few who were resourceful enough to escape.  They absolutely do not feel like they won the lottery.  Many come back and join the KIA, hoping to harvest a few Chinese scrotums.  With the exception of the environmental degradation wrought by the Chinese, or the danger from the PLA-backed Burmese military trying to control the northeast's resources, life was always much better in the Kachin areas than most of the rest of Burma.  They were happy.  The Chinese ruined it.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 02:56 | 4642284 james.connolly
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We really are saying the same, thing its the same elephant.

We're both blind men, your holding an ear, and I'm holding the tail living in the shit.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:24 | 4642024 TheReplacement
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Long ropes!  Short ropes!  All kinds of ropes, stat.  If we don't get those ropes right now we may lose the patient!

 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:42 | 4642248 sessinpo
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 TheReplacement          Long ropes!  Short ropes!  All kinds of ropes, stat.  If we don't get those ropes right now we may lose the patient!

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Wealth is relative. According to the globalist, you are wealthy. So what size rope will fit your neck?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:38 | 4642318 Seer
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Exactly!

I think that I'm in the top 10% globally: and If lowly me is there then there's a whole shitload of folks here in there as well.

My wife is from the  Philippines.  I've got a clue about what "wealth" means.  And one of the most jarring statistics on this subject is that there are 750 million people in India living on $0.50/day.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:34 | 4642047 Stinko da Munk
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As an a Aristocrat I find the plight of you little people to be amusing. Tut, tut go till a field or something.

Wed, 04/09/2014 - 23:35 | 4642049 reader2010
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"If you're not insideyou're outside."  - Gordon Gekko 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:30 | 4642346 sessinpo
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reader2010    "If you're not insideyou're outside."  - Gordon Gekko

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The goal of those truly awakened is to break the box. There is no outside or inside. There will still be poor and rich, but the barriers to the poor will be removed to allow more of them to become successful. Of course the lazy will always be poor.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:17 | 4642407 Seer
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"There will still be poor and rich, but the barriers to the poor will be removed to allow more of them to become successful."

"Success" as measured by?

"The goal of those truly awakened is to break the box. There is no outside or inside."

If there's no "outside" or "inside" then there's no box.  Sometimes one just has to simply "think"...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:07 | 4642119 I Write Code
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I will just point out that the ratio can change if the top guys get more - or the bottom guys get less.

In reality we got some of both of those.  The poorest get a little more, the middle class gets a lot less, and the uber-rich get tons more.  I try not to be particularly jealous of the rich, but I mourn the middle class.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 03:41 | 4642319 Seer
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"I try not to be particularly jealous of the rich, but I mourn the middle class."

The "rich" are practicing extremely unsustainable lives; when viewed as such I find it a bit hard to think that I would wish to emulate them, that they set some sort of level to aspire to.

The "middle class" is an historical flash in the pan, the result of fossill fuels, it's the buffer for the "rich" against the "poor."

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:30 | 4642376 Incubus
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You'd think that that "rich" would want to maintain that middle class.

 

It's the middle class guys that keep the rich guys from the guillotines and lynch mobs.

 

I guess they assume they can just have the police state take the "buffer" role from the middle class, and just push the rest of us down?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:11 | 4642403 Seer
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"It's the middle class guys that keep the rich guys from the guillotines and lynch mobs."

Yup.  Pretty much as I stated it.

"I guess they assume they can just have the police state take the "buffer" role from the middle class, and just push the rest of us down?"

I don't pretend to know what "their" designs are, so I cannot say that the intent is to "push the rest of us down."  Logic would suggest that changing the status quo that has served them so well is not necessarily something that they're desiring to do- I think that there's a sense of urgency/desperation and that no one is going to be able to run and hide from what's coming.

When compared to the world's population we're "rich."  I see very little difference between all of us; the "rich" are scrambling to acquire assets to meet fiuture needs; we here are (always talking about) doing pretty much the same (real estate [of the productive kind], PMs, guns ["They" hire them, we have to be them] etc.).

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 00:18 | 4642141 yogibear
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Usually in the third world you see gated shopping,  facilities and homes. Kidnappings are not unusual.

Seems like future business ventures for the masses in the US once the entitlements aren't enough.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:40 | 4642244 sessinpo
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Another attack on the rich. So easy to do with anonymous posters. Attack them, but if you were the rich, then it's another story.

I say attack the corruption and the barriers that prevent the rest of us from becoming rich.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:00 | 4642395 Seer
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"I say attack the corruption and the barriers that prevent the rest of us from becoming rich."

Suffering from cognitive dissonance?

Like everyone can be "rich?"

Ever consider that the reason why the "rich" are rich is because they oppress others from "becoming rich?"

Again, most folks here have no fucking clue as to how the majority of humans on this planet live.  There is NO way that there is enough resources in which to enable everyone to live "rich."  This is a fact (not some dreamy-eyed statement).

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 08:07 | 4642555 Walt D.
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"Ever consider that the reason why the "rich" are rich is because they oppress others from "becoming rich?""

I don't like Facebook, but I don't see Mark Zukerberg holding me up at gunpoint. You can make a billion dollars just by getting 15 cents from everyone on the planet. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 01:52 | 4642245 Global Observer
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Wonder why such reports cannot go into how these ultra rich made their wealth, what percentage through fair means and what percentage through foul means? If most made their wealth through fair means why is it anyone else's concern how rich they are in absolute or relative terms? On the otherhand, if most made their wealth through foul means, there is a systemic problem that rewards the crooks and until that is addressed, whining about how rich the ultra-rich are is pointless. But then, I don't think reports like this are intended to appeal to anyone's intellect.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:15 | 4642405 Seer
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Define what is "fair."

Chances are most of us here are in some way the beneficiaries of "foul" play (go back far enough in time and it's certain).

When resources start getting tight people act like all of this stuff is new, when in fact it's always been the same.  Difference is that scarcity starts to raise one's awareness more...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 04:48 | 4642356 Incubus
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I'll kneel to no man.

 

Take your social niceties and shove it.  I'm crude and upfront.

 

You think you're better than me?  Prove it.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 05:34 | 4642378 Setarcos
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Construct a right agle using only a compass and paper.

What does QED stand for?

Explain,  "Cogito ergo sum."

What is the Kant-LaPlace Theory?

How do you strip an SLR blindfolded?

Who signed Magna Carta and in favour of who?

Did the Founding Fathers favour Democracy?

Have you ever served in an army and/or seen active service in any dangerous occupation?

I can answer in the affrmative to all of my questiions, how about you Mr Crude?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:11 | 4642392 Incubus
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I think you've got something on for me. This is your second comment on me with wild-ass shit for content that's merely aggrandizing your strengths, or making some sort of strawman image of me because you've a need for me to be some "redneck american" for your daily ego-fulfillment.

You bring up information that has no relevance to me, and I should I take care to know it, why?  To play into your power-play game?

Sure that shit matters to you: it doesn't to me.  And guess what, the world isn't designed by you: that's what freedom is about.  I don't give a shit about democracy, but you seem to be on about it, too, in two posts now.

I didn't serve because I didn't have to.  Daddy was affluent to level that I didn't have to go "serve" anywhere.  I served my own interests as any free individual has the right to do. 

I have no responsibility to you, or anyone else by consequence of living on the same rock that's floating in space. If you're mad about that, you need to figure that out. 

Now, let's see...

 

Can you:

Communicate without coming off sounding like a massive dick?

Not want some sort of badge of 'honour' for your service?

Make peace with the fact that your "skills" don't matter to anyone else but you? And perhaps the people who depend upon you.

Do you have any degree of sociological knowledge? 

Do you have any knowledge of psychology?

Can you design a website that doesn't look like it's off of some geocities template?

Explain the Self-Reflective consciousness?

Explain String Theory?

 

Your trivia/jeopardy knowledge doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. 

Why on earth why I need to know how to strip an SLR?  Maybe that's important to you.  I've got other priorities.

 

This lesson is free, buddy:  We've all got skills.  I just so happen to be a better macro-level thinker than you.  Go back to your rut-thinking and instilling meaning to your life. 

 

You're better at that than me.  I'll give you that. I hope your "arrow-downing" me made you feel better. Fucking simpleton.

 

As a matter of factness:  I make using of "fucking profanity" as a way to challenge and desensitize people.  Ultimately, words only have as much meaning as we give them, and THAT IS MY LESSON.  You are proposing your SUBJECTIVE system of standards as something that I should respect. It is MY RIGHT AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO say and speak as I want.  That is the concept of freedom that any intelligent and ethical person will accept. 

Just because you feel offensed by my vocabulary, it doesn't mean you're on some moral high-ground.  I am making you a better person by skull-fucking your thick head with a lesson in the power of subjective/cognitive association.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:26 | 4642465 Setarcos
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Psychologically?

You are projecting like crazy,  Go read Jung if you do not know what that means.

I don't feel in the least personally offended by your fucking vocabulary cunt, only by applying it to people you imagine that you are superior to, such as Obama Girl.

I've worked on building sites, on farms, in factories and on roads, so I can cuss with the best of them, whilst your silver-spoon existence lets you only pretend to be "tough guy".

BTW I have done university studies in psychology, philosophy, sociology and politics, but I frankly prefered and prefer mixing with ordinary people.

Spoiled brats/opinionated shits like you I could always do without.

I suppose that is why I love Socrates, who I doubt that you know anything about and I can't imagine you capable of reading Plato's "Republic".  Oh and Plato thought democracy a disaster.  So do I.

BTW, how old are you?  I am 71.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:32 | 4642428 Its_the_economy...
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Trickle up! Bitches.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 06:51 | 4642440 medium giraffe
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Damn it feels good to be a Banksta.

 

And now, a word from the President:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rL9ihXiFAko#t=210

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:31 | 4642494 financialrealist
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its all made up paper money...it will not last.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:32 | 4642497 Rising Sun
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Concentration of wealth always (no exceptions) brings around recessions/depressions.

 

Barry and his moronic fuckwads like dogshit Eric Holder, only exacerbate this problem with their fucked up ideals around wealth distribution.

 

This is going to get a lot fucking worse - and here's to hoping Barry gets a cross-check to the head one day!!!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:35 | 4642504 Seer
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Dumb party pussy...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 07:37 | 4642509 Walt D.
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More Marxist drivel. Typical class envy propaganda.

The fact is that if you are stuck at the bottom on Food Stamps and Welfare, even if the government confiscated the wealth of the super rich, you would see very little and would stay at the bottom - $1 billion among 330 million people is only $3 each. If the $6 trillion dollars was distributed to the 7 billion people on the planet, that about 85 cents each!

Thats the best outcome - in reality only special interests, cronies and bundlers would get anything at all. We only need to look at the elite in the Kremlin in the old USSR to see how this works.

 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 08:18 | 4642583 red_pill
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6 trillion is 6000 billion. 6 000 billion divided by 7 billion people = $857 per capita, not a whole lot in the western world, but a years salary in a third world country. Micro loans of 300 are starting small businesses in trird world countries. This amount could make a real difference to 2/3 of the world's citizens...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 13:10 | 4643965 kurt
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Dear Shitball,

I think we're real close to wanting blood. Don't care about your math gymnastics. See, the concentration and wealth extraction HAS to stop, soon.

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