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Why Meat Prices Are Going To Continue Soaring For The Foreseeable Future

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The American Dream blog,

The average price of USDA choice-grade beef has soared to $5.28 a pound, and the average price of a pound of bacon has skyrocketed to $5.46.  Unfortunately for those that like to eat meat, this is just the beginning of the price increases.  Due to an absolutely crippling drought that won’t let go of the western half of the country, the total size of the U.S. cattle herd has shrunk for seven years in a row, and it is now the smallest that is has been since 1951.  But back in 1951, we had less than half the number of mouths to feed.  And a devastating pig virus that has never been seen in the United States before has already killed up to 6 million pigs in this country and continues to spread like wildfire.  What all of this means is that the supply of meat is going to be tight for the foreseeable future even as demand for meat continues to go up.  This is going to result in much higher prices, and so food is going to put a much larger dent in American family budgets in the months and years to come.

One year ago, the average price of USDA choice-grade beef was $4.91.  Now it is up to $5.28, and the Los Angeles Times says that we should not expect prices to come down “any time soon”…

Come grilling season, expect your sirloin steak to come with a hearty side of sticker shock.


Beef prices have reached all-time highs in the U.S. and aren’t expected to come down any time soon.


Extreme weather has thinned the nation’s beef cattle herds to levels last seen in 1951, when there were about half as many mouths to feed in America.


We’ve seen strong prices before but nothing this extreme,” said Dennis Smith, a commodities broker for Archer Financial Services in Chicago. This is really new territory.

The outlook for pork is even worse.  The price of bacon is 13 percent higher than it was a year ago, and porcine epidemic diarrhea is absolutely devastating the U.S. pig population

A virus never before seen in the U.S. has killed millions of baby pigs in less than a year, and with little known about how it spreads or how to stop it, it’s threatening pork production and pushing up prices by 10 percent or more.


Scientists think porcine epidemic diarrhea, which does not infect humans or other animals, came from China, but they don’t know how it got into the country or spread to 27 states since last May.

It is estimated that up to 6 million pigs may have died already, and it is being projected that U.S. pork production could be down by 7 percent this year.  That would be the largest decline in more than 30 years.

But even if someone brought an end to this pig virus tomorrow, we would still be facing a very serious food crisis in this nation.

The reason for this is the multi-year drought which is crippling farming and ranching in much of the western half of the country.

As you can see from the latest U.S. Drought Monitor update, the drought shows no signs of letting up…

Drought Monitor April 1

Hopefully this drought will end soon.

But I wouldn’t count on it.

In fact, CBS News recently interviewed one scientist that says that the state of California could potentially be facing “a century-long megadrought“…

Scientist Lynn Ingram, author of “The West without Water: What Past Floods, Droughts, and Other Climatic Clues Tell Us about Tomorrow,” uses sediment cores inside tubes to study the history of drought in the West.


“We’ve taken this record back about 3,000 years,” Ingram says.


That record shows California is in one of its driest periods since 1580.


While a three-to-five-year drought is often thought of as being a long drought, Ingram says history shows they can be much longer.


If we go back several thousand years, we’ve seen that droughts can last over a decade, and in some cases, they can last over a century,” she says.

So what will we do if this drought just keeps going and going and going?

As the article quoted above noted, last century was far wetter than usual.  During that time, we built teeming cities in the desert and we farmed vast areas that are usually bone dry…

Scientists say their research shows the 20th century was one of the wettest centuries in the past 1,300 years. During that time, we built massive dams and rerouted rivers. We used abundant water to build major cities and create a $45 billion agriculture industry in a place that used to be a desert.

So what happens if the western half of the country returns to “normal”?

What will we do then?

Meanwhile, drought is devastating many other very important agricultural areas around the world as well.  For example, the horrible drought in Brazil could soon send the price of coffee through the roof

Coffee futures prices are up more than 75 percent this year due to a lack of appreciable rain in the coffee growing region of eastern Brazil during January and February, which are critical months for plant development, according to the International Coffee Organization, a London-based trade group.

At this point, 142 Brazilian cities are rationing water, and it wouldn’t just be coffee that would be affected by this drought.  As a recent RT article explained, Brazil is one of the leading exporters in a number of key agricultural categories…

Over 140 Brazilian cities have been pushed to ration water during the worst drought on record, according to a survey conducted by the country’s leading newspaper. Some neighborhoods only receive water once every three days.


Water is being rationed to nearly 6 million people living in a total of 142 cities across 11 states in Brazil, the world’s leading exporter of soybeans, coffee, orange juice, sugar and beef. Water supply companies told the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper that the country’s reservoirs, rivers and streams are the driest they have been in 20 years. A record heat wave could raise energy prices and damage crops.


Some neighborhoods in the city of Itu in Sao Paulo state (which accounts for one-quarter of Brazil’s population and one-third of its GDP), only receive water once every three days, for a total of 13 hours.

Most people just assume that we will always have massive quantities of cheap, affordable food in our supermarkets.

But just because that has been the case for as long as most of us can remember, that does not mean that it will always be true.

Times are changing, and food prices are already starting to move upward aggressively.

Yes, let us hope for the best, but let us also prepare for the worst.


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Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:19 | 4645836 syntaxterror
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Inflation still stays at 1.000% regardless of how much it costs to live, so still bullish.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:24 | 4645851 cifo
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Luckily, I'm a vegetarian :)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:25 | 4645859 NoDebt
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My condolances.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:34 | 4645889 dow jones 20000
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I just got hired as a wildland firefighter in Northern Ontario for the summer but considering we still have 4 feet of snow we won't be too busy up there.

Good thing you Yankees fly us down to help you put your forest/wildland/brush fires out. Looks like business is gonna be goooood. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:38 | 4645902 JoeSexPack
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I was a vegetarian once...


longest day of my life.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:44 | 4645927 Miffed Microbio...
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I'm a vegan that eats meat. That always goes over better than carnivore for some reason.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:51 | 4645951 krispkritter
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Carnivegan...or 'She don't eat meat but she sure likes the bone...'

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:00 | 4645984 Rusty Shorts
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I'm a Vaginatarian...btw

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:24 | 4646236 mophead
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"And a devastating pig virus that has never been seen in the United States before has already killed up to 6 million pigs in this country and continues to spread like wildfire."




Fri, 04/11/2014 - 04:04 | 4646563 RafterManFMJ
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I'm to the point now where I can sniff out a Snyder article just by the title; not denigrating the man but perhaps he could switch from his incessant drumbeat of doom, falling like a continuous unrelenting hail on a tin roof, to an upbeat story once in a while.

Something like, "17 Reasons Puppies Are Cool."

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:35 | 4648920 Rafferty
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Snyder's approach/ "x Reasons Why........" is inherently invalid because it's always possiblle to select a number of facts to support any case.  For example I could do a piece entitled "17 facts that show a major recession is due' and just as, well almost as easily do one claiming '17 facts why no major recession is due'. 


Like Rafterman I too can tell it's MS by the heading alone.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:40 | 4649667 MeelionDollerBogus
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Since a major recession has been in effect since 2007 and layered on top of the major recession of 2001 which never went away, there'd be precisely ZERO facts available to counter that claim and prove unreality.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:18 | 4647299 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"I'm a Vaginatarian...btw"~

Hey, who's to knock it? I'll admit I dine at the "Y" on occasion. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4645954 Stackers
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Meanwhile in totally related news the government just seized 600,000 acres to save an "endangered" tortoise, while terrorizing a rancher trying to stand up for his rights.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:56 | 4645967 krispkritter
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I say we all go and eat the fucking turtles.  Problem solved. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:04 | 4645989 Rusty Shorts
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Turtle - another white meat

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:32 | 4646072 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Mmmmmmm, tastes like chicken.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:17 | 4646345 Four chan
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bat, chicken of the cave.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:57 | 4646154 TheMeatTrapper
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Snappers are an excellent source of meat. They are widely available and easy to catch. Snappers have both red and white meat. The white meat is very similar to lobster while the red sections are like beef. 

Learn To Trap

Here's a few snappers from one trap in one pnd last year. I'll be starting turtle trapping this weekend as the temps are back in the 80's now. 

There is hunger in America because there is lazy in America

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:06 | 4646316 bigrooster
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Man I am going to place some of those beaver traps around my local bars!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:59 | 4645977 greatbeard
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>> stand up for his rights.

He has a right to graze his cattle on federal lands for free?  Fuck the cows and the shit kicker.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:11 | 4646017 fonzannoon
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I have not followed this story closely enough to have an opinion. Interesting to see someone take the fed's side. Especially a grizzly veteran with a great beard. I am interested to see where this goes.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:15 | 4646031 tip e. canoe
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“No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans,"

You Didn't Graze That.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:02 | 4646416 Serenity Now
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My understanding is that he has been illegally letting his cattle graze on land that does not belong to him.  I don't think he has any rights on that score.  However, I also understand that the government is seizing his cattle for auction.  I do think he has rights in that regard, as the cattle are his property.  

Why this is being settled ala a Waco standoff and not in a court of law (where rights, property and otherwise, should be adjudicated) is beyond me.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:17 | 4646474 zhandax
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If what I read tonight is correct, and I do not make that assumption, BLM pulled his permit, he appealed, and the appeal court automatically sides with BLM.  Bogus from a fairness perspective, but within the letter of the law.  I agree with the governor's statement that he is offended by (paraphrasing) the Waco tactics used by BLM.  This is one of those messy examples of why things are so fucked up in an oligarchy.  And no doubt there is more to this story than any media outlet will publish.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 03:41 | 4646550 Serenity Now
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I didn't know that about the permit and that he lost an appeal.  I know nobody wants to hear this, but one of the few legitimate functions of government is to protect property rights.  If it's not his property, then he doesn't have property rights.  

As I said in another comment, this is a great example of elections having consequences.  The BLM is under the Department of the Interior, which works directly for the Executive.  If we are going to let the feds run anything and everything, then we will all be at the mercy of whoever happens to be in the White House.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:07 | 4647238 fedupwhiteguy
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I read that he's been grazing on that land before the BLM even existed. This is a fight for states rights over the dictates of the executive branch. But i agree, that the MSM is not covering this and we have yet to get the full story. But, heaven forbid if this turns into another Ruby Ridge and we once again choose not to once and for all STOP the federal governments mission creep into our lives.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:11 | 4646019 tip e. canoe
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joel salatin for BLS commish

one can dream, no?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:57 | 4646159 MeelionDollerBogus
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Who paid for the federal land? Is the grass there & going to waste when it could be productively feeding cattle? Cattle = milk + meat + leather which is a sustainable way (natural) to make various items of boots, shows, handles for tools. So long as you can raise more cattle you can get more leather & that's a bit nicer than burning oil & other processing to get fake leather.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:48 | 4646283 donsluck
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Do your research. Cattle grazing through much of the west is turning a natural semi-arid region into dessert. That grain "going to waste" does not grow fast enough to make up for cattle grazing, or horses for that matter. Are you really willing to allow species to go extinct to guarantee a profit for private business operating on PUBLIC land?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:14 | 4646484 zhandax
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"Who paid for the federal land?"

For this particular land, the pre- Civil War taxpayers paid for the bullets and blood to take it from the Second Federal Republic of Mexico.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:40 | 4646512 MeelionDollerBogus
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Thank you. SO that being the case no Natives have a claim on it, the Federal Government has no claim on it and the state of Nevada has legal precedence over it, above the US Federal government, is that correct?

It may not be how things play out because the US Feds are mafia murderers (Ruby Ridge, Waco), executioners with a joy for killing children and stealing property, but legally, have I figured this out yet?
I'm Canadian, American laws vary so much over time & state to state, Federal vs state, I'm not sure how this all is written out. I'm fairly certain I know how it will play out regardless of the 'law', though.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:57 | 4646525 zhandax
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Here are more specifics on how much of the west became US territory.  I am not quite as well versed on how it became 'federal land', but suspect that land is what was not granted by homestead.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:38 | 4646510 MeelionDollerBogus
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600 acres per head of cattle for Cliven Bundy. Looks like he couldn't overgraze it if he tried and he's not.

The land isn't being used for anything else and that tortoise has no interference PLUS it appears if the 'fees' are paid to the Federal government to use NEVADA state land (not Federal!) then suddenly no one cares about the tortoise, it's all good then.

Sound suspicious to you?

How's that for research.

Species will go extinct no matter what we do but in this case there is precisely zero danger of that.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:16 | 4647538 Miffed Microbio...
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Wrong donsluck. Grazing animals are not the problem.

Allan Savory explains :


Sat, 04/12/2014 - 03:54 | 4650458 338
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Oh you poor, dumb bastard.


How is it the 'feds' own that land?


What a sorry excuse for a country we have when we actually have people that think over half the land in the western US is 'owned' by the feds.


When I was a kid, the BLM were fixing fences, not building fucking wanna be swat teams and driving 70 thousand dollar pickup trucks.


Who in this fucking country would allow their children to play with the children of these sorry fucks or allow them in their churches is beyond me anymore.



Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:13 | 4646025 yabyum
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Clive Bundy is a low life douche.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:18 | 4646034 tip e. canoe
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indeed, cattle welfare queen.

or does that mean my cows can graze on that land too?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:01 | 4646173 TheMeatTrapper
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Yes, they can graze on public land.

There has been a long running, successfully administered program of permits that allow ranchers to graze their cattle on public land. It worked well until the Feds decided to protect turtles rather than our nations food supply. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:40 | 4646270 The Proletariat
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His name is Cliven.  Bitch

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:40 | 4646381 Rusty Shorts
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Tragedy of the commons 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 06:34 | 4646617 tip e. canoe
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fair enough, should have investigated the story more before shooting my mouth off.  just sick of hearing about millionaire cattlemen making mucho dinero running roughshod over public land for generations and then crying about private property rights when the nipple is taken away.   i'll leave it an open question for now whether Bundy is or isn't one of those people.

found an interesting comment in the RT story:

"It is not about turtles it is about water. There are developers working for military contractors that want that land for water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry ... Many buyers sent me out there with crazy offers for that land for many years. It is prime real estate not worthless desert. There is a natural gas pipeline going through there and lots of water under ground too. Somebody connected to a military corporation is using political power and the BLM to muscle those people out." Rusty Hill FMR NV Land broker"

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 09:01 | 4646963 Agstacker
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Have you read anything about this?  The man hasn't paid his grazing permit since 1993, so for 21 years his cattle were on PUBLIC land, grazing for free.  If I moved there and tried to put some cattle I bought on the land he had his cattle on, you better believe he would be pissed off.  Even ranchers that do pay the fee it is truly welfare, $1.37 per animal unit per month.  So for this guy to have an animal unit (1 cow and her calf) on PUBLIC land he only has to pay $1.37 per month, and he didn't want to pay it.  


Some ranchers even consider it to be 'their land' if they have a federal grazing permit.  There was a man and his son a few years back in Montana who went to hunt deer on PUBLIC land, and the rancher who had the grazing permit called the sheriff and ran them off, claiming it was his land.  These big ranchers are nothing but welfare queens, I don't feel sorry for them one bit.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:41 | 4649670 MeelionDollerBogus
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Have you heard? Nevada didn't need to issue a grazing permit but it's not Nevada asking for it: it's the FEDERAL government.
They don't have the actual legal right to REQUIRE a grazing permit in defiance of the PEOPLE of Nevada.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 21:13 | 4649763 Agstacker
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I hate to break this news to you, but there is a slight difference between state land and federal land.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 23:03 | 4650077 MeelionDollerBogus
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You're not breaking anything to me.

This land is not federal land so no federal permit is possible.

This land is Nevada state land and Nevada doesn't actually seem to want to stop the grazing.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 13:22 | 4651307 tip e. canoe
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according to the 1995 amendment to The Ordinance, the whole issue seems rather sticky:

where the following was crossed out:  [they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; and that]

where's MachoMan with a legal opinion when you need him?

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 20:23 | 4655298 MeelionDollerBogus
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crossed out? An unchallenged modification to a contract? Ruh-roh, raggy!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:23 | 4647593 Miffed Microbio...
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Meat Trapper, I'm doubtful the turtles really have a problem existing with cattle. Didn't they coexist with the millions of bison that roamed the prairies for a millennia? Something makes me feel those turtles are a front for a deeper issue and the ranchers are in the crosshairs of Sauran's Eye for something altogether different.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:59 | 4646167 TheMeatTrapper
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No - YOU are a fucking lowlife douche. Clive Bundy is a man you son of a bitch. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 06:01 | 4646620 tip e. canoe
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see above, no need to get hostile dood.   here's another comment from RT article:

The Nevada constitution had a section called "The Ordinance" when Nevada become a state that included the outlawing of slavery, and the statement that all undistributed public lands would be retained by the federal government and could never be taxed by the state. The constitution also included a "paramount allegiance" clause, proclaiming the supremacy of the United States government over the states and that no state had the right to secede. Nevada statehood predates the Bundy claim. just say 'n.

if true, maybe you and Clive and the Nevada Guv wanna target your anger towards why The Ordinance is in there in the first place.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 08:14 | 4646798 Aussie V
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Sounds like Bundy should move south of the picket wire. John Wayne fought for many south of the picket wire.

Oh for a John Wayne


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:39 | 4645908 nmewn
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"Good thing you Yankees..."

Ummm, oh, never mind.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:19 | 4646040 dow jones 20000
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I know it takes a slightly different meaning within the states but as far as us Canucks are concerned everyone in the lower 48 is a Yankee :)

I'm actually a dual-citizen, or a "north american" as I like to say (does that make me a yankanuck?) so I should watch my mouth.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 05:52 | 4646613 nmewn
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"I know it takes a slightly different meaning within the states but as far as us Canucks are concerned everyone in the lower 48 is a Yankee :)"

lol...I understand...I was just poking fun too ;-)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:50 | 4645946 El Vaquero
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Maybe you'll get down to NM, because it looks like we're going to have a nasty fire season this year.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:57 | 4645972 IPA
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According to this grain of salt there is nothing new about a shit ton of fires. What's new is how much they cost... Inhalation much? 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:05 | 4646005 El Vaquero
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It's not just the number of wildfires, it's also the intensity.  It's been pretty dry here, and back in the good'ole days when we wouldn't let any forest fire burn ever, a lot of the forests grew in much the same way that I would stack shit to get a good camp fire going, only on a much larger scale.  We've had some big-ass fires the past few years. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:53 | 4646275 SgtShaftoe
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The intensity is a direct function of gross negligence and mismanagement by the FDA - forest service.

When the American Indians ran the rockies, for example, they shepherded their forests. They kept the deadfall cleared out. They kept the lower branches 6-8' above ground level trimmed. In the 1600s, in the rockies, there were about 5-600 trees per acre on mountain sides. Now the population is 2,500 trees per acre, packed with deadfall.

Human beings are abso-fucking-lutely part of the natural system!

Now, the forest "service" doesn't replant trees in fire blighted areas - yea, all those pretty pictures of people with backpacks planting trees, gone - so the fires that sterilized the soil due to their own fucking retarded policies, now require 4-600 years recovery for pine trees to grow there again.

They don't save structures. They allow fires to burn, but don't allow cleaning out deadfall any longer. They just close roads and point guns at people. service indeed... These people aren't stupid, they're fucking INSANE!

We have a landscape packed 6 feet deep of landmines in every damn direction, from economic policy, foreign policy to forest policy, and it's built up over a century.

It's gonna be like the fall of Rome alright, but with the intensity of cordite, possibly nukes.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:39 | 4646378 Miffed Microbio...
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You are spot on. The only people who stayed behind in the two worst wildfires in our area saved their homes. We were hoodwinked the first time and left. Our neighbor saved our house. Next time around we were smarter and ignored the mandatory evac. Armed military were everywhere preventing people from returning. It got very nasty and I'm shocked no one was shot. This wised up a lot more. I'll be interested if they again will obey the command to leave. Many of us rurals were looted by people off reading and avoiding the road blocks. My neighbor returned home to find the fire dept had emptied his 10k gallon cistern and because we had no electricity, he had no water. So water on your property isn't yours after all and, yes, people in our area have been fined for clearing brush on their land. I guess the assholes want everyone to burn to death is the only conclusion I can make of it.

A naturalist here told me the native Americans here after harvesting the acorns, lit the brush on fire. So there were many grass fires but never the absolutely deadly firestorms we witnessed. We returned home to a smoking moonscape.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:54 | 4646407 SgtShaftoe
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Absolutely! I'm sorry for your experience, but I'm sure the education was invaluable.

Yes, when the Indians moved on to other lands for the season, the last guy tossed a torch into the grass. They did controlled burns. The first generation of immigrants did the same because they learned from the Indians what worked! When all the dipshits arrived, they lost it.

Flame wall is 4x the size of the fuel. so if you have 1' of grass, around your house and you have cleared your branches up to 6' you're pretty damn safe. Protecting structures is pretty easy really.

US fire policy is absolutely insane. It's a fractal image of the rest of the government landscape.

Some Indian reservations that are enveloped by forest service land still retain the same features - deadfall is cleared, but cross the fence onto federal land, and it's a bomb waiting for a match.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:39 | 4646455 El Vaquero
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There are woods behind my house that are in absolute shit shape.  The trees are old and dying, salt cedar and russian olive have moved in, etc...  The Army Corps of Engineers are trying to fix it, but all of the flood control shit plus water contracts with Texas mean that it doesn't flood every year, and it is supposed to flood every year.  The amount of dead wood just lying around is disgusting, and I would be fined and possibly arrested if I got caught trying to take any of it or clear any of it.  A few miles north of me, there is a fence where the rez boundary is.  What's funny, was a period of time on that same rez where the Indians over grazed the fuck out of the grasslands with buffalo, but the woods are in great shape.  They still have the problem of no flooding, but whatever they're doing, it's in much better shape than just a few miles south.


Another thing to look at is Edo period Japan.  (Sans the samurai, because they were worse than our worst cops.)  They sustainably supported a population of 25-30 million people on those small-assed islands with no industrial revolution.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:56 | 4646468 SgtShaftoe
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yes, your backyard is typical of most of the country. I was talking with a mountain landowner last year who was showing me his forest in the back lot, absolutely packed with deadfall, and he said the last time it burned was when the Union Army was trying to burn out the Indians 150 years ago.

Things have gotten very bad.

Yea, Japan is interesting. The only place (for a short time) where human labor was cheaper than chattel animal labor, and they had people running on a rat wheel to power implements, crazy stuff. They did some amazing stuff though! The black teeth thing is pretty gross though.

If people would crack a history book and look at the old ways of agriculture and land management, maybe they'd learn something. Those PHDs in DC "protecting" "endangered" tortoises and writing fire, financial, and foreign policy should be the front field man in their endeavors. Laws of nature will take care of the rest. Skin in the game is severely lacking.

F. A. Hayek — 'The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine the can design.'

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:12 | 4646482 El Vaquero
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One thing is for certain, we will have to change our way of life.  I have no doubt that the process of change itself will be cruel and bad, but the end result could be good.  Whatever we come up with had better be based on how nature behaves, because as you said, we're part of nature. 


And I don't worry about tortoises.  I worry about shit like plankton. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:27 | 4646443 Son of Loki
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True dat. I read about a fire that destroyed my son's neighborhood near Austin (Steiner Ranch) least all the houses except one where the guy and his wife climbed on the roof and watered their house continuous  and saved the house while ALL the others aorund them burnt toi the ground. I don't know how much [if any] looting there was there but they saved their house.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:42 | 4646458 El Vaquero
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Yeah, fire behind my house is a big concern for me.  I'm not leaving unless the fire spreads onto my property.  In which case, I have to make it probably a quarter mile to safety.  Or just jump into the clear ditch and hope for the best.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:09 | 4646479 SgtShaftoe
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If the deadfall around you is nasty, make sure you cut some serious fire breaks, sprinklers on the roof, cover your soffit vents with tin foil, and cut out any shrubs near your house and especially near windows. If you have some of the fire retardant foam, use that.

Dude, pick up a couple fire shelter (rotisserie chicken) tents at a surplus store, they're cheap, and they're better than relying on just jumping in a ditch. It's not a sure thing, but plenty of people have survived really nasty flame walls in them - combined with a cleared ditch and you should be golden.

Aspens are a safety area - just beware of falling trees, Juniper is a second choice from what I've heard.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:17 | 4646492 El Vaquero
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I have a small section brush and fucking elm trees (I hate those fucking things) between what would otherwise be 200' of firebreak.  I've been told that I'm allowed to cut a bunch of that stuff down, even though it's not on the property, but you know how bureaucrats are.  Say one thing.  Prosecute for another.  That hasn't stopped me from getting out there with the chain saw though.  What I need is a 1 1/2" or 2" hose and a 220v generator so I can run my irrigation well if the power goes down.  High volume, low pressure. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 09:35 | 4647081 Miffed Microbio...
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Fabulous advice. You must work in this field. May I add here? Clear of all spider webs from under your eves and facia boards. Yes, one home here was lost because embers were held by masses of webs against the house.

We thought we were safe after the massive firestorm past but the fun had only begun as we fought for 36 hrs straight putting out spot fires that threatened homes. One neighbors house looked fine but an old wood fence caught fire and was wicking towards it. We had no water or electricity at this point so Mr Miffed got an axe and cut it down so when it reached the house it wouldn't light it on fire. Another piece of advice: get decent masks! I had never had my eyes and throat burn so badly. We idiots only had wet bandanas tied around our heads for three days of hell. Oh, and be sure and position your propane tanks with fire in mind. We could not save a house where the propane tank exploded too close without water.

After three days I couldn't stay because the smoke was making my asthma terrible so Mr stayed with a shotgun to repel the looters. My daughter painted " Looters will be shot, Have a nice Day! :-) " on a board because she felt sorry for them if they tried.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:57 | 4646470 El Vaquero
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They tried to replant some of the stuff that burned down at Corona (local term for a mountain range that is technically named something that most of the locals don't even know, LOL,) and it looks like a lot of it failed.  There is a lot of grass growing in the burn areas though.  I saw some of the big burn areas in the Gila this year too.  More of the trees survived than the news would lead you to believe, but it did burn a shitload of acres.  Whether we maintain an industrial society or not, we will return to sound forest management practices, or we will suffer. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:12 | 4646020 dow jones 20000
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It's kind of an internal conflict because on one hand nobody wants a bad fire season but at the same time we don't want to be twiddling our thumbs on base all summer either!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:12 | 4646022 Miffed Microbio...
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We're preparing for the worst. The largest fire in Cali's history started 5 miles from my house. Barely made it out when a wall of fire was barreling down towards me lipping the tops of the telephone poles. That is something you never forget. Many people died in our area not able to escape quickly enough. Everyone has goats now or borrows from the neighbors. We didn't have power for 3 weeks. Looking back, it was a blessing. I woke up to how pitifully I was prepared for a disaster.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:59 | 4646168 MeelionDollerBogus
Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:41 | 4646252 DaveyJones
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forget the meat part, piling most of our agriculture into one state is idiotic, monopolistic, and energy wasting

it's not meat that's the problem, like all modern ag, it's the modern method that is stupid and poisonous. Like the real world, integrate the animals, the earth and the plants and they all feed themselves 

and when you do that, the water sinks in and regenerates

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:26 | 4646241 Jumbotron
Fri, 04/11/2014 - 00:17 | 4646347 Abbie Normal
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Notice that cucumbers have virtually disappeared from the salad plate?  It's because they've doubled in price over the winter.  Tomatoes will be next...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 10:11 | 4647263 Serfdom Highway
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Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:24 | 4645857 navy62802
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The government statisticians might as well just freeze the inflation rate at whatever they want. Doing so would make the number about as meaningful as it is now.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:31 | 4645876 FieldingMellish
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The magic of hedonic substitution. Presenting: Soylent Green (now in Raspberry!)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:39 | 4645907 Grande Tetons
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New York City, 2022. What is the secret of Soylent Green?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:50 | 4645945 813kml
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Methinks they will need to adjust productions methods, the cream filling of today's population is likely to gum up the machinery.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4645960 Grande Tetons
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Soylent Green Pops. The lard will make you ask for more. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:22 | 4646498 MeelionDollerBogus
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NEW at Baskin Robbins - Soylentberry Swirl!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:03 | 4645995 WhackoWarner
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Last week in Canada I bought ON SALE.  Lean ground beef @ $5.99/kg.

After the sale/  $10.99/kg.


Supermarkets are doing sales prior to ticker shock,  I bought $200 of Gb.  Guess I got in wiith almost a 50% savings in my freezer.

Where is the inflation"  I just don't know.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:20 | 4645839 Robot Traders Mom
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So loose monetary policy and drought is not bullish for ag?


Jim Cramer would beg to differ. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:50 | 4645947 Bollixed
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"We used abundant water to build major cities and create a $45 billion agriculture industry in a place that used to be a desert."

Big deal, the Fed can conjure up that much in a few weeks. What's to worry about...


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:21 | 4645840 shermacman
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Kobi beef! It's what's for dinner! Just put it on my EBT.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4645955 krispkritter
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Everybody Buying T-bones...(shit's free amiright?)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:23 | 4645848 KnightTakesKing
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Peak humans. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:32 | 4645880 Xibalba
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I believe the 'solution' is already in the works.  

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:49 | 4645932 HardAssets
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Gulf & its seafood severely damaged by an 'accident'. Pacific and its seafood questionable because of an 'accident'. Pushing GMO. And prices of food heading upwards. Gardens banned in some areas, as are farmers markets, kid's lemonade stands, and whole non pasteurized milk sold by the Amish.

Hmmmm . . . . didn't Kissinger say food is a 'weapon' for controlling the people?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:54 | 4645962 El Vaquero
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I don't know if he said that, but I don't want to be controlled by who controls the food.  I just noticed my first corn sprouts today, and it appears that some of my tepary beans and common dry beans have germinated and will be sprouting soon.  I'm just waiting on the chile.  If it's not coming up by Sunday, I'm going to replant. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:11 | 4646014 greatbeard
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My stuff is going gangbusters.  I'm still working on the fall garden harvest and canning but the spring stuff is making a lot of noise.

Did a double batch of onion/cabbage sweet relish with grilled red/yellow/green bell pepper.  I'm going to do another single batch tomorrow.  The I'll dry what's left of the onions.  Mucho cabbage and Brussels sprouts still to go. And one and a half rows of beets to get in and pickle. 

Dent and sweet corn, both up.  Red and Yukon potatoes, ditto.  Three kinds of tomatoes ready to transplant.  Three kinds of peppers, ditto.  Snow peas, shelling peas, black eyed peas, pole beans, Lima beans, all kicking arse.

Peaches, nectarines, apples, pears, persimmons, plums, figs, pomegranates, and black berries, all producing this year.  As this is the first productive year it's a bit moderate.  Next year, spring freeze excepting, should be a banner year.  And my straw berry patch is loaded with strawberries.

Still to plant, black beans for drying, acre peas, water melon.



Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4646045 tip e. canoe
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and just think it, last fall you were itchin to sell, just at the point when you got your soil dialed in.

silly beard ;~)

hops hoppin here.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:58 | 4646161 El Vaquero
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My strawberry patch is spreading.  I'm not going to stand in the way.  I also put a blackberry bush in about a week ago.  I doubt it will produce this year, but there's always next year.  I'll let it spread if it wants to.  My brassicas, turnips, raddishes and carrots have all sprouted.  I've got onions in the ground and about 18 or so from last year that I'm letting go to seed.  I also have some volunteer lettuce and oregeno, and I have some romaine and ithica head lettuce in the ground.  I direct sowed tomatoes that should be coming up within a week or so.  I also decided to try some orach because it's supposed to be like spinach, but you can still pick the leaves when it is bolting.  I expect the green beans will be sprouting in a few days.  I was late on getting to the swiss chard, but I went ahead and planted it anyway.  I also planted some okra.  I am planting mainly flour/dent corn (6 or 7 cultivars), and am undecided on sweet corn, even though I do have the seed.  I even planted some tobacco just to ensure that I have some good viable seed without having to depend on others.


I probably lost 70%-80% of my plums to cold, which is fine because I was going to have to knock a bunch off of the trees anyway.  The apples, peaches and pears are all doing great.  We'll see if I get any grapes this year.  If I do, I'm going to use them for juice to can a bunch of the other fruit.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:12 | 4646483 MeelionDollerBogus
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check out the in-garden greenhouse trick used here : that spring freeze may be endurable depending on where you actually are, how bad it could be.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:26 | 4646054 sunnyside
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My freezer is full of venison.  Tenderloin whenever I want it, roasts, deerburgers, even some sausage I made over the winter.  I truly don't care what the supermarket price is.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:47 | 4646126 El Vaquero
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Mine is full of elk.  Yesterday, I walked out my door and down my road with a fishing rod to a little fishing hole and caught a nice 14 1/2" rainbow and walked back home for dinner.  I'm not worried about food.  I'm worried about two-legged critters.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:04 | 4646178 TheMeatTrapper
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Venison, beaver, squirrels and turtle here. Now it's catfish time! Crawfish very very soon!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:10 | 4646481 MeelionDollerBogus
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and obviously electricity unless... how do you power that freezer? It's a concern of mine. I don't have one and I don't want to be stuck one day with an inoperable one full of food or a light-speed bug-out where I have to leave the contents behind or... carry it all with me as it defrosts & rots before I get to the next safe locale. Thoughts?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 02:29 | 4646503 El Vaquero
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If SHTF, I'll be using a bunch of the wood that I have in my big ass pile'o bricks (i.e. my smoker) to make as much jerky as I can.  People preserved meat before modern refrigeration. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 09:59 | 4647191 Miffed Microbio...
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This happened to us. Our neighbor had $400 worth of meat in his freezer when the fire took out the power for three weeks. It worked out because all who stayed had plenty to eat. We could not venture into town because we had violated the mandatory evac and would be arrested. The military had taken over the town. Luckily between all of us we were adequately provisioned. We now have solar and a generator. Solar is engineered to shut down during these disasters so power won't go on the grid unexpectedly for the repair crews. There are ways around this. I got tired of all SDG&E crews coming around pissed off when they saw we had power. They would back off when they saw what Mr miffed had done.

We were fortunate we didn't have to move. If we did, we wouldn't have gotten too far by car. Gas was gone for miles. Some of my friends went east towards the desert and had to stop when they ran out of gas.I only have beef jerky and granola bars in my BOB. I figure that will be the time I will appreciate my 15lbs of fat I need to lose.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:44 | 4649685 MeelionDollerBogus
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Just my opinion but the solar should be engineered to go to battery banks and fuck the grid.
Justin Case
You'd be surprised how fast that 15 lbs of fat goes when you really need to consume it.
Might I suggest those liquid meal replacements be added to the BoB because eating something with liquid limits a bit of how much pure water you have to consume with your food and you do want clean, pure water as well, not just for drinking.
Also for AMP kits (austere medical pack) highly suitable to trail-trekking and bug-out-bags.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:23 | 4645849 navy62802
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Might be the start of another Dust Bowl.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:27 | 4645862 NoDebt
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You can't have a proper Depression without one.  And we ARE in a depression, so that would just be like proof-positive of it.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:08 | 4646426 Serenity Now
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This is the sort of comment that makes me laugh my ass off.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:01 | 4645973 813kml
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Just what American sports fans need, another low quality bowl game.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:39 | 4646268 DaveyJones
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living up to your icon

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:26 | 4645856 NoDebt
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Yeah, but there are government snipers with their rifles trained on ranchers in Nevada, so it's all good.  The government's got this covered.  Or something.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:40 | 4645904 nightshiftsucks
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Yeah what the fuck is that,if that farmer makes beef just a little cheaper then why is the govt fucking with them.I saw the video,fuck the BLM guys,at some point they are going to have to decide what is right for them or what's right for the country.If they choose wrong then that will be the last choice they ever make.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:49 | 4645939 NoDebt
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Desert totoises, apparently, is the reason.  Some turtle is stated as the reason the Bureau of Land Mismanagement is upending the guy's business of raising cattle, something which his family has apparently been doing on that land since the 1870s.  

Hey, by the way, you have a very rare form of dust mite living in your house, so we're going to have to ask you to vacate and not live there any more.  Your house now belongs to the dust mite.  Don't want to leave?  Ok, we'll just shoot you with a .308 from half a mile away.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 01:14 | 4646434 Serenity Now
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I am NOT defending the federal government, but the rancher doesn't own the land.

If you let the feds be in charge of anything and everything, then elections have consequences.  

The BLM is under the Department of the Interior, which works for the White House.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 08:31 | 4646848 Iam_Silverman
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"Ok, we'll just shoot you with a .308 from half a mile away."

While an 880 yard shot with .308 (7.62X51 or 7.62 NATO) is doable, you will note that at that range, when sighted-in to a 300 yard zero, your drop is still over 5 ft. (60").  The energy at that long a range is also dissipated to the point to where penetration of soft cover is nil.  A .338 Lapua Magnum or a .300 magnum (choose your flavor) might be a slightly better choice.  There is also the .416 Rigby with solid points (dangerous game loads) that would do very well.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 09:44 | 4647129 SilverRhino
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If the tortise goes extinct ... no more reason for BLM to be there.  


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:33 | 4646250 The Most Intere...
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drones above...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:27 | 4645863 Offthebeach
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As amerkns incomes continue to soar, living costs crash, taxes vanish, they will afford more and more meat, and higher quality cuts, thus spurring demand and triggering higher prices until ranchers are able to gear up.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4645866 nmewn
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Mine are practically freeeeee!

Course, its doesn't come packaged in plastic and shot full of antibiotics & hormones either. Yours is the easier way, you just pay up for the extras ;-)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:41 | 4645913 nightshiftsucks
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So thats why my penis is getting bigger/harder.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:48 | 4645935 nmewn
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Yes. No season on hogs.

But don't tell nobody ;-)

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:57 | 4645969 El Vaquero
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I'm just waiting for them to move up near me, which despite what state officials say about having a good start eradicating them, will happen.  3 litters every 14 months with each litter being a minimum of 4 piglets, often quite a few more is all I need to know.  They breed like rabbits.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 05:55 | 4646616 nmewn
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They do. They tear a lot of stuff up, we keep them tamped down pretty good around here.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 08:35 | 4646861 Iam_Silverman
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"I'm just waiting for them to move up near me"

Me too.  In fact, I have been waiting for about five years now.  After I had all of my tanks (stock ponds) dug, I expected them to move right in and tear up the soft dirt of the dams.  Well, since I raise Longhorns, and they tend to keep stray animals clear of our pastures, I have had zero hogs move in.  They are all around me though, so I don't have to travel very far to get fresh pork.

Ever notice how wild hog isn't "the other white meat" like the grain fed, gelatinous, fat-laden shit you buy at the store?  The same goes for our grass-fed meat we raise for our freezer.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 11:54 | 4647731 Miffed Microbio...
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This was my biggest revelation when we started to raise our own meat. Flavors and texture to die for! We pulled our last 41 lb Tom from the freezer last week. Just covered it in salt pork and baked it. Juicy meat dropping off the bone. Commercially raised I have to brine to get the same results. We raised 5 last year mostly on pasture and we'll do 9 this year. We have 2 families who have asked for a turkey because of unemployment. They get a bird if they help with butchering all turkeys, meat chickens and pheasant. So my costs will be higher this year but 2 families will have a nicer thanksgiving.


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:28 | 4645870 Kreditanstalt
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Don't prices are not included in the government's inflation calculations/manipulations...

Looks like they won't be for many years, either...but we can buy more i-gadgets...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:29 | 4645872 LetThemEatRand
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There's always a good hearty breakfast of spam, spam, spam, eggs, bacon and spam.  Hold the eggs and bacon.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:31 | 4645877 Rusty Shorts
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...and then there's the Desert Tortoise...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:33 | 4645883 Seasmoke
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Thankfully I switched to grass fed yogurt and salads 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:41 | 4645910 nmewn
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Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:35 | 4645891 Major Major Major
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What does a pound of pink slime go for?

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:36 | 4645894 fonzannoon
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Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious. After nine years, you know what I realize? 
[Takes a bite of steak
Cypher: Ignorance is bliss. 

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:39 | 4645909 LetThemEatRand
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I'm with Cypher lately.  Reality is a bitch.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:43 | 4645919 fonzannoon
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when the nikkei goes on a tear tonight to finish barely down I will complete the process of losing my fucking mind.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:45 | 4645929 LetThemEatRand
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If you haven't lost your mind already, you're way ahead of the game.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:54 | 4645961 HardAssets
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"Reality is a bitch."


Well, when you bring it up at a party it definitely puts a damper on peoples mood.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 06:40 | 4646649 Grouchy Marx
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And the band plays on...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:44 | 4645923 nightshiftsucks
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Shit,I've been semi iresponsible but I've had a bunch of great trips with my family.I regret nothing.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:55 | 4645964 yogibear
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It's on the dollar menu.

Also that steak your eating may have glued together.

Meat glue..... enjoy

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4645917 I Write Code
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5% increase!  10% increase!  OMG!!!!!!  Nobody here but us chickens!

Time to start building major solar and wind powered desal up and down the California coast, that will feed the cities and leave the natural water for the farms.

Things may be a little tougher for Texas, it's mucho expensive to desal water and then pipe it 500 miles uphill.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:42 | 4645918 The Most Intere...
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According to BLS website and Janet Yellen's skanky twat, Jamie Dimon's shit is acceptible steak substitute for GDP inflation/price deflator so expected increase in beef prices only expected to go up 45% instead of 50% and will hold CPI under 2%.  Fed will also begin purchase of Italian and Greek bonds 'cause running out of "US stuff".


Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:48 | 4645922 LetThemEatRand
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Meat Loaf was always underrated.  Now he's underrated and overpriced.  StagMeatLoaflation.  I hope we never have to see what HyperMeatLoaflation looks like.  If it happens, I will look away.  I will do anything for love, but.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:56 | 4645965 ebworthen
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Going to have to try meatloaf using ground chicken; about $1.49/lbs versus $3.49/lbs for beef.

Maybe if I add 1/2 cup of beef broth and an extra egg...

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:00 | 4645983 El Vaquero
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I've been using elk as a beef substitute here lately.  I haven't made a meatloaf with it yet.  Smoked meatloaf is the bomb, especially when you make it a meatloaf fattie by stuffing it with cheese, green chile, onion and anything else that sounds good.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:02 | 4645990 LetThemEatRand
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I had Elk once at the Buckhorn Exchange in Denver.  It was awesome.

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:45 | 4645928 infinity8
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Cook! Cook! Where's maaaahh hasenpfeffer!?!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:17 | 4646033 NoDecaf
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Duck season!

Wabbit season!

Duck season!

Wabbit season!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 22:23 | 4646046 infinity8
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I'm a Rootin' Tootin'' Chicken Hawk!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:23 | 4646234 Blano
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Ah say hey dawg!!!

Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:24 | 4646235 Blano
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Thu, 04/10/2014 - 23:38 | 4646264 infinity8
Thu, 04/10/2014 - 21:53 | 4645958 ebworthen
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I sure see a lot of dogs and cats running about...

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