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GM CEO Barra Lied To Congress: Docs Reveal She Knew About Steering Problem Years Ago

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Despite her vehement denial of knowing anything about the ignition switch problems at GM (until late December, early January), documents revealed by the Energy and Commerce Department show:


We are sure the lawyers will be carefully crafting her PR response to this disaster but as Chairman Fred Upton notes, "There is still much left to examine and we will continue to
follow the facts... These initial documents revealed failures within the system." It seems this was the last straw for the hedge funds (GM is the most widely held) as the stock is dumping.


As Forbes noted,

A recurring theme in the investigation into General Motors delayed response to a safety risk associated with faulty ignition switches is why the chief executive, Mary Barra, didn’t know about the problem earlier and do something about it.


She was, after all, the head of global product development before she was CEO, and held a series of engineering and staff jobs before that.


“You’re a very important person in this company,” Sen. Barbara Boxer, sounding incredulous, told Barra after reading portions of her resume at a hearing this week. “Something is very strange that you don’t know about these things,” said the California Democrat.

And now...Bloomberg reports,

“These initial documents revealed failures within the system,” House Energy and Commerce Committee Cmte Chairman Fred Upton, R-Mi., says in statement.

  • “There is still much left to examine and we will continue to follow the facts”
  • GM CEO Mary Barra told of steering problem in 2011, according to documents released by cmte
  •  NHTSA sought investigation of Cobalts for airbags in 2007
  • GM engineer Ray DeGiorgio said it was “impossible” to modify switch




Here is the email that shows Barra knew of the problems in 2011...


Rest of documents here...


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Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:50 | 4648452 One And Only
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Everyone lies to congress.

Congress is a flaccid and impotent institution.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:55 | 4648469 Vampyroteuthis ...
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US taxpayers already own GM via Obummer. Do you really think he will stop golfing to care?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4648480 RevRex
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She lied? So what, she has a vuhgina!



That will be the standard response when Hillary is President!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4648500 Eeyores Enigma
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She is now easily replaced.

Now this is some tech I can really get behind (or in front of).

"Scientists grow viable vaginas from cells"

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:01 | 4648508 Dr. Richard Head
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Damn.  I could have just had a scientist grow one for me.  Would have saved a lot of my life and money with one of those over marriage.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:02 | 4648513 TruthInSunshine
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"What difference does it make!"

- Billary 2016

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:13 | 4648581 pods
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You only get in trouble for lying if it is about steroids. Duh, everyone knows that.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:26 | 4648647 Dr. Richard Head
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That's right.  Only the most important things are focused on when it comes to lies.  Gotta keep the circuses honest and all.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:33 | 4648680 Joe Davola
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“You’re a very important person in this country Sen. Boxer, Something is very strange that you don’t know about these things,”

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:35 | 4648687 Manthong
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Good movie.. even considering the libs…

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:50 | 4648742 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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The real question is how many Congressmen knew of this problem and said nothing when GM was still owned by The Empire.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:51 | 4649396 Fish Gone Bad
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Q: How many GM executives does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: I'll get back to you on that...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:56 | 4649724 Theosebes Goodfellow
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She lied!?! To CONGRESS!!?!? It cost people their lives???!!!!???

No worries, Eric Holder will have her behind bars in hours!

Er..., no, wait a minute...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:02 | 4648515 McMolotov
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A harsh $25 fine and new lobbying position await.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4648492 DoChenRollingBearing
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I used to (half-jokingly) pump Hyundai cars here, also in part to provide some verbal support for our Korean bearing suppliers -- and so stability for them (and us) if Hyundai prospers.

Now I wonder, will Hyundai come and pound the snot out of GM?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:54 | 4649405 Fish Gone Bad
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Hyundais are fine automobiles.  If anyone buys a Hyundai, they will not be sorry.  They are a good value.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:44 | 4648956 drendebe10
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GM makes nothing I want to own or drive and as Fred Sanford said, "There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman."  

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:59 | 4649732 Theosebes Goodfellow
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GM makes nothing I want to die in.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:12 | 4649274 Babaloo
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(1) The US has sold its entire position in GM, so the premise of your comment (and its 13 upvotes at the present) is wrong.

(2)  I thought it was an ignition switch problem she was testifying to Congress about?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:55 | 4648475 aVileRat
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She was in charge of the 3 divisions in old GM where the problem was smoothed over and ironically 2 of those 3 groups are now bankrupt. 1979 GM all over again, all we need is a politico (carl ??) to go all Ralph Nader on their ass.

At best ? GM gets to settle and she resigns

At worst ? GM please guilty to criminal intent and a class action RICO is thrown forward which puts GM back into ch 11.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:37 | 4648696 SilverIsKing
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Your 'at worst' is actually best.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:56 | 4648478 Thought Processor
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Well that was a short career.


Gotta blame someone for this whole fiasco.  Welcome to the CEO revolving door Ms. Barra, now go ahead and take one for the team.


Then sit back and enjoy the scenery as you float down on your golden parachute.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:16 | 4648846 666
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Short career? Why, I'll bet she receives a bonus for this!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:57 | 4649409 Fish Gone Bad
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I am thinking that if she were to walk into IHOP, they would probably even give her a free pancake.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:58 | 4648493 TheRideNeverEnds
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Exactly, hell even the US Attorney General admittedly lied to congress; just think about that a minute.  

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:42 | 4648712 SimpleSimon
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Congress lies to everyone too!! So there!!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:03 | 4648798 Dick Buttkiss
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"Everything the state says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen." — Friedrich Nietzsche

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:52 | 4648460 NOTaREALmerican
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Uh oh,  she's a female too.

Jail time !

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4648483 Thought Processor
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She and Blythe can be bunk mates.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 17:25 | 4649118 Miffed Microbio...
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No, I think Large Marge would be better.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4648470 syntaxterror
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If she donated to O-bomb's campaign, she should be good to go. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:55 | 4648474 Winston Churchill
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Engineers keep notes, and everything.Stupid to scapegoat them.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:07 | 4648535 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Engineers keep notes, and everything.

She'll just say she never reads e-mail from engineers in the Trash Class because she has "people" who do that. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 01:14 | 4650291 StychoKiller
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In one of my favorite jobs, I was required to keep an Engineering notebook, in case I came up with a patentable idea...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:57 | 4648481 Dr. Richard Head
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When in Rome...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4648494 alien-IQ
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yeah but, isn't she in a tax bracket that allows her to lie to congress?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:01 | 4648510 Dr. Richard Head
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That depends on the deductions listed from her campaign contributions...

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:13 | 4648576 AlaricBalth
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NOVI,MI 48375 GENERAL MOTORS COMPANY 4/22/11 $1,000 Stabenow, Debbie (D)

NOVI,MI 48375 GENERAL MOTORS/SENIOR VP 9/30/11 $1,000 Camp, Dave (R)

DETROIT,MI 48265 GENERAL MOTORS COMPANY 8/30/10 $500 Dingell, John D (D)

NOVI,MI 48375 GENERAL MOTORS COMPANY 7/27/10 $500 Stabenow, Debbie (D)

NORTHVILLE,MI 48168 GENERAL MOTORS 9/26/13 $1,000 Peters, Gary (D)

And another $15,000 to the GM PAC

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:22 | 4648625 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1, sleuthing!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:40 | 4648702 earnyermoney
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Those are some cheap bastards from Michigan.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:14 | 4648794 Emergency Ward
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Introducing the bipartisan Camp-Stabenow "Protection of Domestic Auto Company Executives from Unfair Questioning Act".

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4648497 vintageyz
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Is she Lerner's BFF?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:59 | 4648498 Ariadne
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So far thats 13 counts of murder one. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:09 | 4648558 Urban Redneck
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So when is Michael Moore going to call for her to face the death penalty?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:58 | 4648775 Emergency Ward
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Right after he goes to Cuba for stomach-bypass surgery.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:01 | 4648792 Ariadne
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Michael Moore debut My Little Pinto

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:00 | 4648499 agstacks
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"At this point, what difference does it make?"

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:00 | 4648501 CharliePrince
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lying is the new american  diplomatic policy

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:02 | 4648514 STG5IVE
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She should have just blamed the weather

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:02 | 4648516 Full Faith and ...
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Question of the day;

Why is it so god damn hard for the people that inhabit this level of society(private & public) to tell the truth? 

There is not a day that goes by that at least one article on ZH makes me shake my head. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:05 | 4648527 NOTaREALmerican
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The secret of success is duplicity, the secret of happiness is self-delusion about your own duplicity.

Morals are for the children.  The people who make it to the top have to have enough duplicity to get there, which makes them adults.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:08 | 4648547 Winston Churchill
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Duplicity or psychopathy ?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:19 | 4648612 BrigstockBoy
Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:28 | 4648659 NOTaREALmerican
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Well,  those born lucky have both. 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:03 | 4648523 buzzsaw99
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<-- barra unda da bus

<-- free corzine

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:04 | 4648525 Frank N. Beans
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it's okay, she's on her learner's permit.  She's still in training.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:05 | 4648528 Chuck Knoblauch
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GM should have hired a more sympathetic victim to throw under the bus.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:12 | 4648573 adr
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Like Kermit the Frog.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:44 | 4648709 Chuck Knoblauch
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A female black toad would have been enough.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:06 | 4648536 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Anyone who thought she wasn't lying at the time has not been paying attention.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:07 | 4648539 Inthemix96
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You know that funny thing truth?

According to a few fucking idiots posting on the Telegraph UK, you lot are unverified, unchecked, of no value targets for the establishment.

Especially one cunt by the user name of Paul Weighwell.

Make me laugh.

You lot arent hitting a nerve, you are braying the fucker with a sledge hammer.

Keep the fucker up.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:08 | 4648545 NoWayJose
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Her lawyers need to talk to the ones that defend  big banks and government execs.  Every statement is NOT 'I did not know anything" and insread it is "I don't recall anything".  Likewise, if she received 500 emails a day, and it was mentioned once, it doesn't hold much weight.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:13 | 4648549 syntaxterror
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You can launch a war nowadays costing trillion$ and sending thousands to their deaths without needing to be bothered with any Congressional approval. Of course, you can lie to Congress after you start the war if they demand to know anything.

So, CEOs lying to Congress seems pretty minor in the grand scheme of Congressional irrelevance.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:10 | 4648561 f16hoser
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Maybe, she's just an Idiot? At any rate, HANG THE BITCH!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:10 | 4648562 NYPoke
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The Chinese know just how to handle these issues.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:10 | 4648563 Seasmoke
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If they all have NO worries lying to Congress, ain't no problem lying way down here on the Totem pole.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:11 | 4648567 adr
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Of course she was told of the problem. However she didn't know about the problem because she wasn't listening.

There was an easy fix for the switch, but it would have broken a contract with a union supplier. I have a cousin that worked for Delphi. They would find problems with parts but they would always get used anyway. It was too hard to change the orders after the fact. The union contracts were always shipped complete and if a part was bad they would have to cancel the entire contract with everything else on it. So a bad o-ring gets sent out to keep the order for a brake controller.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:31 | 4648678 Thought Processor
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Wow..... it's a wonder they don't go bankrupt.


Oh wait, they did.


And then the Government picked them up, patted them on the back with a full bailout.


That was a watershed moment in US history as far as I'm concerned.   That combined with the whole TARP scam brought a level of corruption not seen since- well, forever.  



Fri, 04/11/2014 - 17:39 | 4649163 Miffed Microbio...
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This reminded me of the Ford Pinto recall. Internal records showed the car would likely burst into flames and kill people. The fix was to prevent the differential mounting bolts from rupturing the gas tank which was estimated at the time to cost $1/ car. This kind of shit has been going on for some time and of course she knew about it. If she truly didn't, it may have been someone purposefully getting her to take the fall. I'd be interested who takes the job if she is forced out.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 21:14 | 4649765 oooBooo
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The ford pinto thing is a myth.

The ford pinto was no worse than any other car of its class in that era.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:14 | 4648583 jpc578
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Less then three months ago the headlines were:

  • Why GM CEO Mary Barra is Obama's Perfect State of the Union Guest

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:16 | 4648601 the not so migh...
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Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:53 | 4648758 Emergency Ward
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Look at that adoring smile....

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:15 | 4648599 syntaxterror
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Face it, the typical piece of shit GM choomwagon has thousands of defects, so how can anyone be aware of each and every defect? 


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:20 | 4648616 tony bonn
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barra, blythe, and lois can open a boutique consulting firm, the sisters of to lie through your treeth without paying fines or jail time....perjury without purgatory....bitches of a feather lie together.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:47 | 4648732 Chuck Knoblauch
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Female integrity? HA!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:26 | 4648644 wmbz
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Who cares? Folks dive off in their GM POS, so what if they fall apart and you die in the process. Gubmint Motors does not, the engineers do not, the workers do not, the managment certainly does not. One thing they all know for sure... they will not be held accountable, ever. If and only if one of these lying peice of shit assholes is thrown in jail or hopefully shot there will never be any change in the process, period!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:31 | 4648673 Schmuck Raker
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If she can get a job as CEO of NSA fast enough she'll be fine.

Otherwise that's a stiff $5,000 fine.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:57 | 4648674 Tinky
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"I'm sorry Senator, I should have been more clear. What I meant was that I didn't know that I would be caught lying."

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:35 | 4648686 earnyermoney
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Wonder if Terry is one of the engineers on paid administrative leave? LOL

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:37 | 4648692 earnyermoney
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Some lawyer's gonna go off on her arse with a class action lawsuit.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:42 | 4648711 Downtoolong
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Wow, Barra could end up with the shortest tenure of any CEO in GM's history.

But, don't worry, she will still get her golden parachute, then probably run for Congress or start a government consulting firm or something.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:52 | 4648753 Canoe in the Desert
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I don't remember breakfast.....let alone an email from years ago. In fact, I might only read 30% of my emails due to the flood of crap arriving in my inbox daily. Sucks for everybody to have GM's actions years ago tarnish a company's image on it's way to rehabilitation. FTW.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:54 | 4648764 Duc888
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Hey, Obama lies

Biden lies

the NSA dudes lie in front of congress

Holder lies


...anyone see a pattern here?



Naaawwwww   didn't think so.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:01 | 4648790 syntaxterror
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How many 20 year old government motors vehicles do you see on the road these days?

How many 1994 camaros? How many 1994 cavaliers? How many 1994 caprices? How many 1994 astros? 

These cars are epic pieces of shit. Yet, the dumbtards keep gobling up the shit hook, line, and sinker. 

I see 1994 Hondas everywhere, yet government motors outsells Honda by a wide margin. 


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:24 | 4648855 Overfed
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My Lexus (fancy Toyota) is nearly 20 years old, 190K miles. Runs like a top, smooth and quiet, everything still works, and it doesn't use or leak a drop of oil/transmission fluid.

A buddy of mine bought a '09 Dodge Caliber a couple of years ago, tranny went out three times in two months (warranteed, luckily). After the third time, he took it back to the dealer and told them to shove it up their ass. At my recommendation, he went and bought a '09 Camry. He's very happy with that decision. I hate to say it, but compared with Japanese/Korean cars, American cars are junk, and have been since the early 70s.

The only thing left that the American companies produce that is even kind of worth a shit is full-size pickups. Lookout if Toyota and Nissan ever start offering 3/4 and 1 ton full-size diesel pickups here.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:02 | 4648795 Mr Giggles
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I lied to congress and congress lied back.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:16 | 4648842 GooseShtepping Moron
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We need more women in leadership roles. Sarc tags superfluous.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:18 | 4648862 jtz5
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So the CEO before her who the Treasury put in place retired because his wife is sick, she assumes control, then the part problem surfaces after the govt sells its' stake.

Nothing fishy about that..carry on.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:19 | 4648866 robertocarlos
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She belongs in jail.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 16:22 | 4648871 GIABO
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Fred Upton? Is that Kate Upton's uncle... yes it is! (-) (-)

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 23:02 | 4648876 22winmag
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Since when is lying to Congress (and supposedly by extension, the American people) a crime?


Barra is merely following in the footsteps of hundreds of other government and corporate hacks, and the chances of her getting in any real trouble are next to nil.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 17:12 | 4649066 hairball48
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A big time auto exec lies to Congress?

This is news? Please!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:10 | 4649271 Itchy and Scratchy
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Some bad girl is about to get a real good over-the-knee panties down bare bottom spankin' I tink!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:24 | 4649282 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Only question is what government agency is blacked out in the document. Means they are culpable also as far as the problem goes and also means some congress people are too most likely since GM received a government bailout a taxpayer funded bailout I might add for a company covering up problems that caused the death of people while still owing the government money. Whoever's oversight committee that agency falls under probably knew also.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:22 | 4649304 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Bring back the gallows.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 18:27 | 4649321 Rising Sun
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Throw this fucking cunt in jail along with that IRS twat - Lerner - these two bitches can eat twat for the rest of their lives.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 19:26 | 4649461 zerohedgejjxxzz12
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Who ever said that lying and crime do not pay?

In my life, I have seen more corruption, lying and scandals than I ever care to.

So what are the children supposed to think. If they pay attention to the wealthiest and most powerful people in the world, they will see Politicians, Billionaires and Police, lying, stealing, drug running, gun running, bullying other countries, beating and murdering people to sucess!


 No wonder there is bullying and thefts and murders all over America. These kids are learning it from their Piers.

 Good job,  Even Obomba himself gives a speach where he jokes about being really good at killing pepole. He is a fuc**** discrace to the the entire planet.

If the American people would wake up and through out these corrupt People and demand a real investigation about 911. Take all of these people to Alcatraz and torture them until some truth comes out about 911.

I think there is no doubt that it was an inside job. 

Can you say "FALSE FLAG"

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:20 | 4649598 Kina
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She simply misspoke..

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 20:39 | 4649663 Seize Mars
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That scumbag who runs the NSA lied to congress, nothing happened. Eric Holder lied to congress, nothing happened. Jon Corzine lied to congress, nothing happened.
So who gives a fuck anyways?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 21:12 | 4649761 oooBooo
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What I dislike about these reports is they are selectively quoted by reporters who don't know shit about product development.

Released without new part number is meaningless unless we know GM's system. Many companies only change the revision of a part. Some change the number, some will do one or the other depending on the situation. Some companies have engineering part numbers and service part numbers. The engineering part number may change but the service part number may stay the same. The service part number then is updated to link to the new engineering part number. I could go on with the different variants of engineering documentation there exist in the world, but I think that's enough to show that 'released without a new part number' doesn't mean squat by itself.



Fri, 04/11/2014 - 23:05 | 4650084 Non Passaran
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If the journo didn't know anything about it, the fact that part number remained wouldn't be mentioned.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:11 | 4650692 yellowsub
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If she was a new employee, it's believable she wouldn't know.  When you work there for decades and up the ladder, you know exactly what goes on.  

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:59 | 4651693 SmittyinLA
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I bet GM lobbied for the new regulations adding a 3rd tailight, and now a backup camera and monitor requirement.



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