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Greek Bond New Issue Plunges - Where's All The Demand Now?
Talking heads were positively orgasmic at the fact that Greece managed to get a five-year bond deal off in the public markets... at a 4.75% coupon and was 8-times oversubscribed. That must be great news, right? So, kindly explain to us where all that exuberant "Greece is the best thing since sliced bread" demand is today as the bond price has collapsed 1.5 points and yields smashed higher by over 30bps...?
As a gentle reminder here is yesterday's news... (from The FT)
Greece has raised €3bn in a five-year bond deal after attracting in excess of €20bn in orders for its eagerly anticipated return to the bond market. The yield on the deal was confirmed at 4.95 per cent – much lower than most analysts expected.
And here is The FT from January 25th 2010...
International alarm over Greece’s debt crisis abated on Monday when investors flocked to buy the government’s first bond issue of the year, an indication that it may run into less trouble than anticipated in meeting its short-term financing needs. Investors placed about €20bn ($28bn, £17bn) in orders for the five-year, fixed-rate bond, four times more than the government had reckoned on.
It's different this time.
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What are these ""investors"" they keep writing about?
Sounds like CalPers .... doesn't everybody wants to own the junkiest of junk for under 6%...?
This looks suspiciously like some great theft or wealth transfer just happened. I wonder who the robber/robbees are.
Not suspicious. Its the normal flow from taxpayers to bankers. You must have missed the memo from the bankers.
Don't be difficult ... whatdaya think? .. that suckers don't buy Ponzi schemes anymore? ... they're out there ... just needs more cowbell.
"What are these ""investors"" they keep writing about?"
Belgians mostly. They have an international slant for foreign bonds. Every now and then they wade into U.S. Treasury issues too. They have an insatiable appetite for risk.
No-brainer, nothing can go wrong. Those "investors" wrote the ESM policy.
Where have all the suckers gone...?
(being heard in the halls of all the banking buildings and ivy league eCONomic schools throughout the world)
The suckers are trying to scrape together a few nickels to buy hamburger meat and fuel.
Greek is in recovery, cough...
What is few billion auction when bancstas are making trillion dollar scams. I think this is a 'marketing budget' issue.
I normally just buy Charmin with aloe. That seems quite pricey and a little rougher than I want on my b-hole.
why the helll dont we use bidets?
"why the helll dont we use bidets?"
Two words - COLD WATER!
central bank circle jerk
ECB shaddow bidding
<-- bond flippers?
<-- bond floppers
calling CNBS.....
(crickets........................)
They will just shout "BUY THE DIP".
Somebody actually did the math and realized that collecting a 4.75% coupon for 3 years and then losing all the principal due to default isn't a winning investment.
I thought it was going to be 2 years of interest payments then a "non-credit event" restructure at 20 cents on the Euro.
Al I am the laughing on the inside type but that one just made me blow some coffee across the room. I think it's the dry humor combined with your avatar staring at me that seals the delivery.
He's definitely got the avatar that most closely matches his commenting style.
i'd rather buy a gyro with tzatziki sauce.
i read that as "gyno with titty sauce"
C'mon, who doesn't expect to lose 1.5% on a bond within 24 hours of buying it?
hey if a jgb 10 yr can trade today at .605, why not a greek 10 yr? these bonds will NOT default. Think about it. Would you rather have your money in a) greek stock market, b) greek bank account or c) a greek 10 yr? the EU/Greek puppet government will take from a) and b) to pay c), and offer no apology... btw, ditto everywhere else in the world and they will do it with a gun to peoples heads if they need to...
Yes, no history of debt restructuring in Greece, they've always kept the bondholders whole (no need to check that 'fact', I'm pretty sure it's true). And here I was considering option d) - don't invest ANY money ANYWHERE in Greece.
NWO my friend... nothing in Europe will default... It doesn't matter where you put your money...as long as EU/US are backing it you will get your money back...
I assume you missed the last 2 years due to a bad acid trip or something. They DID default (though it was termed a "non-credit-event" so it didn't trigger credit default swaps), with PRIVATE holders of bonds taking an 80% hit. Did the ECB take a hit on it's holdings? No, of course not. Just the PRIVATE holders.
The NWO takes care of it's own, friend. Not you. You are just food to them.
That is what he is saying..they will never default..they just change the rules of what a default is...you might not get your money back..but they will call it an investment in Greece...so you feel better...but as for your principal..it will be gone...
It will be different this time....
Bank depositers and business owners will be turned upside down and shaken multiple times until pockets are empty prior to next default...
They sort-of-defaulted-depending-on-your-definition on the Greek law bonds. The new bonds are UK-law. The EU will either have to back Greece or kick it to the curb this time, because there's no room for tonsorial squirming around the next default under UK law.
The Greek bond issue was a marketing tool to illude people about the success of the Troika ahead of European parlamentary elections, a sort of "Mission accomplished" moment for bureaucrats in Brussels. The problem is that European voters know very well that this is not the case and are likely to severely punish ruling parties at the polls. Spreads are at ridicolous levels and will widen again approaching May 25th.
It seems that the Greek government currently follows a similar logic to blackmail citizens as we approaching euro-elections. After the Baltakos scandal, the global neoliberal dictatorship rushed to support Samaras administration through the announcement that Greece is returning to markets and the Angela Merkel's visit to Athens on Friday, as a reward to government officials who adopt every part of the IMF neoliberal agenda. It's an attempt to reverse the negative climate against government.
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/04/when-system-blackmails-societ...
Since their plan to regain popular support isn't working. they are getting desperate. I hate to think what their Plan B is. Vote for us or the terrorists will win? (There was that car bomb yesterday, and I heard there was a call about another bomb in a hotel just now, although that may have just been a prank). One thing is for certain-- the neo-liberal criminals won't give up without a fight.
Exactly.
No big deal here. There was a wink and a nod amongst the cronies - the ECB will buy at par. If you are not a crony - what were you thinking?
How do you say 'Cognitive Dissonance' in Greek?
My my, your hair is looking very long!!