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Guest Post: Real Americans Are Ready To Snap
Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
Despite popular belief, every culture of every nation draws a line in the sand against government tyranny. The problem is, many draw this line so close to total defeat that it rarely matters. For the Jews of the Warsaw Ghetto, for instance, it wasn't until the Germans had already herded millions onto railroad cars destined for death camps and cornered the rest into dilapidated central housing that the ZOB resistance was formed, only to be wiped out a month later. Perhaps hindsight is 20/20, but clearly too many freedom movements throughout history waited too long to respond to the trespasses of oligarchs.
The Founding Fathers frequently struggled with the proper measure of resistance. Many colonials wanted vengeance on the British after the Boston Massacre in March of 1770, but patriots knew that the timing was not right. The battle to rally citizens to the cause and to educate the masses as much as possible on the facts took precedence over the desire to enter conflict. The Founders endured five more years of British government criminality until nearly 80 farmers and militiamen stood outnumbered on Lexington Green on April 19th, 1775 to confront an army of 700 British regulars on a mission to capture rebel leaders and destroy weapons caches. No one knew at the time that the war would be sparked that day, but everyone knew that a fight was inevitable and near.
I believe the same feeling hangs in the air of modern America for REAL Americans, and by “real”, I mean those who actually support and defend the constitutional values and principles that lay at the foundation of our society. We sense that something is coming; a great change, or an unstoppable reckoning.
The question of when to strike back is pivotal to any resistance movement. Turn to violence too soon or without proper cause in the eyes of the public, and the rebellion may lose the moral high ground and the support of the populace. Wait too long, and the totalitarian hordes may be too far entrenched, forcing the rebellion to fight from a position of strategic weakness.
There are those who might argue that America crossed the “red line” long ago and now our society is simply rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic while arguing over futile semantics. In certain respects, I can see their point. The U.S. political system is utterly lost. Anyone who still has faith in the Left/Right paradigm after two terms of George W. Bush and nearly two terms of Barack Obama is either insane, or mentally challenged. It should be obvious to Republicans and Democrats alike that our government does NOT represent the average man, and our election process is a sham. Democrats in particular should be equally furious and ashamed as the candidate they blindly worshiped to the point of cultism has now forsaken every value they thought he represented.
The legal apparatus of the U.S. is also beyond repair. Those in the mainstream who argue that grievances with government should be addressed by the courts instead of independent action obviously have not considered that the courts continuously uphold and defend legislation like that contained within the NDAA, which allows for rendition, torture, and even assassination of American citizens without trial or due process. And where are the prosecutions of Constitutional violations by the NSA? Why aren't men like James Clapper in prison for lying directly to Congress. Why hasn't Eric Holder been slapped in irons for his involvement with “Fast and Furious”? And what about the international financiers who back these politicians? How many of them have been prosecuted for their involvement in the toxic derivatives scandals that are destroying our economy to this day?
No, we lost the courts a long time ago. They will do nothing to save this country. But is the fight already over? I think not.
Nihilism is tempting for those people who are lazy and frightened and looking for a philosophical excuse to run away from making a stand. Claiming the fight is lost before it has truly begun is a longstanding tradition amongst millions upon millions of cowards through history. Every freedom fighter in every great revolution for liberty has heard the same arguments that we hear today – “It's too late to change things. The enemy is too powerful and you will be crushed. The nail that sticks up will eventually be hammered down. Your movement is a minority on the fringe and no one will support you. None of you have the guts to really follow through...”
While there is certainly much to despair in the state of our nation, I find the notion that Americans will do nothing in response misplaced and ignorant. From what I have observed, it is not a question of “if” citizens snap, but when.
With objective eyes one could easily see it during the last attempts by the federal government to pass anti-gun legislation that would have led to confiscation. Pro-2nd Amendment protests erupted all over the country (though the MSM mostly ignored them) with participants far outnumbering the miniscule groups in support of gun control. The sentiment amongst millions of gun owners and millions of Liberty Movement proponents was that we were not going to allow government enforcement of new gun laws. Period. If that meant we had to start using those same guns to put an end to government, then that was exactly what we would do. The feds, of course, buckled.
Rather than take the more dangerous and unifying direct route of federal legislation, gun grabbers have shifted strategies, isolating and targeting specific states they believe will be more pliable and easier to conquer. Connecticut and parts of New York, however, have shown that even people in the most socialist of states have no intention of complying with gun registration or confiscation. In Connecticut, only 38,000 high capacity magazines were registered according to the new gun laws, while approximately 2.4 million purchased through retail remain unaccounted for. Only 50,000 “assault weapons” were registered, while at least 300,000 remain unaccounted for. A sizable number of police are also refusing to enforce registration measures (some out of constitutional loyalty, and some out of a desire for self preservation), causing the state of Connecticut to back off of its hard line rhetoric.
I can say with full confidence that the conditions within Connecticut alone would lead to an open shooting war if officials actually attempt to enforce registration and confiscation. If Safe Act-style legislation or executive orders are ever enforced at a national level, I have no doubt revolution would follow.
The latest hotbed I have witnessed is the Bureau of Land Management attack on a cattle farmer in Clark County, Nevada owned by Cliven Bundy. The BLM has so far stolen over 500 cattle from Bundy on the grounds that the federal government owns the land his family has been using for grazing pasture for generations. The confiscation was implemented under the auspices of “protection for endangered species”. The species in this instance being a desert tortoise.
The methods used by the BLM resemble a militant raid, with hundreds of agents, helicopters, and even snipers at their disposal. Adding insult to injury and making the issue a national concern, the feds have also staged “First Amendment Zones” miles away from their activities to keep protestors away.
This may seem like a minor event, a tiff over cattle grazing or possibly property rights, but there is much more going on here.
Tyranny leaves lasting scars, and each tyrannical act results in an accumulation of wounds on the public psyche that do not heal. In the end, a single event can become a trigger to unleash a torrent of rage pent up in a population for years or decades. The fight for Cliven Bundy's farm has the potential to become such a trigger.
So far, federal abuses have been primarily toward Bundy's cattle, with confiscation ongoing and suspicions that a number of the cows are being killed. Here, protestors try to stop a truck from leaving the area which they believed might be carrying dead animals. Agents respond with dogs and tasers.
However, I believe that if this situation escalates into a Waco or Ruby Ridge brand of event, not only Liberty Movement residents of Nevada, but Liberty Movement champions across the nation will indeed finally throw down the gauntlet. What does that mean? It means they are going to start shooting. Opposing groups can debate whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, but the reality is that one way or another, it is going to happen.
Discussions within the movement are far from apathetic. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of eyes are watching every move of the BLM right now, and they should be taking this fact very seriously.
The naysayers will claim that we don't have the will to take action. They are welcome to think whatever they like. But mark my words, Constitutionally minded Americans are not going to stand by and watch another massacre, nor a loss of gun rights, nor will we be entertaining violations of our freedoms for much longer. This society is on the edge of something. It's kinetic, or electric. It is not yet quite visible but it is there, reverberating in the atmosphere. My suggestion to our federal bureaucracy would be to do what they did during the gun debate, and quickly back away.
Of course, we all know they won't.
Do the elites want to stir up insurgency in order to give pretense for a larger crackdown? They very well might. But it is transparent in the way they try to mitigate dissent and offer placation that they do not want a rebellion larger than they can manage. I think it is far too late for that. I think they've pissed off too many people, instead of just enough people. I think that though most pretend-Americans will do nothing but watch in horror or hide in their hovels, the size of resistance to the tides of despotism is growing far beyond common realizations. And, when this resistance erupts, it will shock even those who fully expect it.
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"There were no Nazi death camps. Those were labor camps. Some did die but it was of typhus, pneumonia, etc."
People were gassed to death and that is well documented.
Horse shit.
Here ya' go ..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-M-CgG6fKU ......
the 2014 and 2016 US elections are going to be key... 2014 in particular given how many state governor seats are up for election... this ties into the Article V process...
I know how everyone here likes to say that voting is useless... if I may quote Ghandi in this case... "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it."
if you're a US citizen and you come to ZH to bitch and moan while declining to vote, you have no one to blame but yourself... quit bitching about your rights and start exercising them
Long live Premier Election Solutions!!! (Formally known as Diebold Election Systems, Inc.)
Is there really a political solution?
If people want to understand what is really happening in Nevada then this is a good primer. The media - left and right - aren't telling the entire story.
Click here and get informed
yea...but will the french come to the rescue of the rightwing conservative nutjobs? methinks not...
out of line douchebag. you have no friends here. I feed trolls because they are beneath me and I have crumbs in my lap. Show me a left wing militia and i'll show 40 right wing ones. The left wing is weak and in any internal conflict in this country they will be first to die, take that to the bank.
well, whoever greens i would call a "friend", but posting here is not about making "friends"...
i have no desire to meet at least 80% of the crowd that post on ZH.
one of the few ZH posters i would consider meeting afk over some drinks was aurora ex machina, but (s)he doesn't post here anymore (as far as i can tell)...
NO ONE CARES
you cared enough to point that out.
so who cares more? ;-)
I propose a truce, this argument is reminding me far too much of the vitriolic non sense in a politico comment board. While you are still a troll, I will acknowledge your membership here for over 4 years and commend you for at least being intelligent enough as a "non-right winger" to read zero hedge in the first place. That is an important step to your eventual recovery. Also, I will award you a single "up vote" as a gesture of good will. Trade on my friend. Also, do you have any non public insider information that any of us could potentially use this week?
truce accepted :-)
and it's been fun to play (and learn). that's why i've hung around for way too long...
as far as tips go, expect the unexpected;-)
No truce needed. This is fight club. Anyone in fight club is -- by definition -- worth fighting. When the cops show up, we stand together.
Tread carefully. He might be one of the rarest "Chupacabra Trolls"...you think you're safe and then he attacks your face in a blizzard of claws and yellow fangs.
did anyone ever tell you that you have the gift of an active imagination?
well, they are right. and i trust you can still put it to good use.
Maybe trader 1 maybe aurora ex machina was a transvistite that was so smart that his comments were beyond smart... Or maybe he was just a limp dick limp wristed leftist half machine faggot like you who hangs out at bathrooms at city parks. Faggot.
i know you're trying hard to be funny, but that was a depressing display of dimwittedness. no one really laughs any more at (homo)sexual jokes. you need new material.
interesting biography you got there:
See above post to Bob. Must have both been in the same game. MIlestones.
Chas..... the lefties will take away the 2nd amendment and all the guns so they will be safe..... maybe....
the united states is long overdue for some major constitutional reform.
the problem is that there is no credible political force of greens / left wing / socialists in the states.
christian fundies, greedy capitalists, sociopaths, rightwing conservative nutjobs and the oversized, materialistic american consumer have quite a lock on the current system.
sorry for the harsh words, but it must be noted.
Passive aggressive bullshit from a piddly ass, consummately ignorant, Communist coward.
that's a real nice touch with "communist coward".
let me guess...you are at least one of the following:
oh, and be careful on the ledge. you don't want to fall down the cliff. or do you?
"the problem is that there is no credible political force of greens / left wing / socialists in the states."
The left lying with a straight face for 100 years, the problem is you most likely believe this garbage. Fed to you like pablum to a baby, any actual investigatory effort discouraged with PC rectitude.
No, the problem is exactly opposite, no organized set of pissed off Americans with a clear plan for after the mayhem. So lets all pray they don't go off as the results are completely unpredictable and I have no desire to witness the excesses of an American Robespierre. Lets all stay calm, stop voting, withdraw support, minimize activity whenever and wherever you can, banking, taxation etc..
america has to look to europe to save itself from regressing.
why do you think the eu is running laps around the american negotiation team for ttip?
Good stuff. The EU is America's bitch. For proof, see when Fed.gov thought Edward Snowden was on the plane that was flying a head of state around. The mask slipped bad and the brick wall at the back of the theatre was exposed.
Free masons - CIA - EU - Gladio - Pedophilia - US - Mafia - Vatican
Search a combination of these keywords and they will tell you that there is little hope anything will ever change. The powers you try to fight are invisible. You can only fight the heavily armed sheeple in uniform that they control. The invisible power will not lose a drop of blood nor a single dollar/EURO of their wealth.
Even when you would win the fight on the ground and a purge of government would take place, the new government would have their people in their ranks and they would use the same tactics again to successfully gain control again over all important government roles. You can never win a fight against the invisible.
An honest man cannot win a fight against real psychopaths that have no conscious and no moral, history is the best prove of that. Even when you think "the good guys" have won, soon it appears they were not so good as was propagated..
I am not happy with this conclusion, but I am afraid it is a reality. The fight will never end, the only way the fight could end forever is when they will have total victory and rule with harsh dictatorship by means of total control trough technology (robots, spying, drones, infiltration, dead penalties for dissidents). Once the apparatus is completed there will be no way out.
Never before in history there was so much technology available that could support an everlasting perfect dictatorship. The centralization of government is the greatest danger to freedom, even a well meaning central government is a danger, since it is a central point of failure, if this falls into the wrong hands (which history has shown so many times) it has no opposition. When government is decentralized and one state would turn bad and starts killing their own citizens, the other states would quickly respond. With one central government, there is no entity to respond.
So I am afraid that one world government will be a reality soon.
Every young adult that thinks about having children must think of the dystopia they will likely have to live in.
The only way out is to demand total financial transparency from all government, meaning every dollar that comes in or goes out has to be traceable by every citizen. Every pencil that is bought has to be registered in a public webbased accountancy system so everyone can follow the money. that would be the only way to detect foul play and corruption.
Secondly, everybody that has a key position job working for government or being in government themselves would have to have their family tree published online as well, that way nepotism becomes a lot more visible.
The technology to do this exists, so there is no excuse for not implementing such policies other than the resistance from people benefiting the lack of transparency that there is now.
a proper one world government is going to be awesome.
in fact, we already have a pre-cursor today. it's just that the greedy capitalist pigs are running the show along with materialistic consumers.
trader1....fuck off to Russia BTICH!!!
Russia doesn't want his sorry ass. They've already been through that Lenin bullshit.
it's been on my to do list (tourism only), since i began russian language studies. that was quite some time ago...
i don't know, but this looks like an interesting place to check out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Cv5hZfOmk
No true green/ left wing/ socialists huh?
Still trying to hold onto those anachronistic concepts I guess. Here's a hint: they don't exist in the halls of power, anywhere. You can find the fervent believers spouting shit in various coffeehouses around the world but you won't ever address one as Lord, Duke, Dr, the honorable, judge or especially Esquire anywhere in the world.
Those crusty old white fuckers that started this place had the foresight to leave arms in the hands of the common man. Smartest thing any politician can do to ensure peace.
you call what you have peace?
didn't you get the memo that "there's a war on for your mind"?
It needs some fixing, no doubt about that. The fangs of .gov need to be filed back quite a bit. Let's start there.
if you live in the states, you haven't seen fangs at all. if you want to stay in the minor leagues, be my guest. if you want the big leagues, come to northern/west europe.
what % of your income goes towards federal, state, municipal tax as well as unemployment and health care insurance? if < 50%, then you should stop bitching. if > 50%, then enjoy your surroundings or relocate somewhere else.
tl;dr
.gov is a symptom of american politics, society and culture. and that's not the trinity you would want to revere.
Just because you (or anyone for that matter) accept being stepped harder on doesn't mean we should tolerate it when it happens to us. The true evil in the world is people who let things be done in their name and take no responsibility. Well that has been going on a long time in the west but mostly out of sight and out of mind. Now these past 15 years or so people have been waking up to the evil things done to other people around the world. Some of us even recognize that the tormenters have turned inward. The veil of ignorance is being lifted.
We aren't asking for .gov to go conquer more oil so we can live easy. We are demanding .gov stop stepping on people like they are stupid disposable things of convenience. Anyone who wants .gov to step on people so their life can be easier is a just a coward who approves of thuggery and thievery to satisfy their greed, laziness, and jealousy.
Ultimately you want .gov to take from me and step on me. I must find it in myself to forgive you but that might not happen today. Regardless, I will not submit. You cannot convince me. You will have to kill me. We all know you are not up to it. .gov will have to do it for you but you will still be behind it.
That is reality. You would be a murderer.
since at least 2001, if you paid american taxes, consumed meat, and/or bought a smart phone, then you're already an accesory to murder. let's admit that reality first.
you don't have to preach to me, i get it and have accepted it already.
i don't see .gov going away. every time it has failed throughout human history, it comes back in some form or another. .gov can be a mechanism for a proper redistribution of resources towards projects/services that improve quality of life for all - not only the elite.
problem i see in the american heart, as a whole, is the selfishness in satisfying extreme, individual desires that don't take account for the effects on other human beings + nature. i'm optimistic that this will change for the better.
You have to be joking. The EPA is nothing but Greens. The University systems are packed with your cohorts and they have the bead on everyone that gets a chance at political power first. You are not making office if you did not go to the right shcools or know the right people in the media. All of those are ran by the leftists and the socialists.
So the fault is not that there are no creditable ones, moreso that none of them are honest or creditable because of the philosophy they represent. So there is plenty of honest and accurate representation by those groups, it's just that you can't tolerate the truth, that those ideas are the ones causing the problems in the first place. This collectivism garbage is what is causing the problem in the first place. .
you are against the (collectivist) family unit?
To the extent that it inculcates government collectivism in children, yes.
then homeschool your children...
Families are not collectives. Collectives are made of unrelated and neutral parties.
we're all related and there are no neutral parties.
Although it is not often spoken in public, don't think that many many people haven't thought through what, or better identified, who to visit when the time comes. Members of the media, academia, bureaucrats, pols.... corporate officials, nonprofits (Sierra Club) and yes their family and friends as well.
when what time comes?
what are you waiting for?
How about we just off the people who can't get along? You know, the ones who insist on forcing their way on us and/or taking things away from us. These are the people who make things miserable for everyone else.
Let me know if you see anyone like that, k.
aside from someone else physically torturing you, it is your own mind that is miserable. if you see everything around you as miserable, then please take a look inwards.
What you describe is the Fake Left, that has been coopted/hijacked, just like the Fake Right.
The way I see it there are the following:
Right - You do your thing and I'll do mine.
Center - Let's all agree to cooperate on this thing.
Left - Do as we say or pay the price.
Where would the fakes you mention fit in?
No. But then, the "rightwing nutjobs" aren't the ones that will need rescuing, either. All of the left's power...ALL of it...is lodged firmly in the apparatus of the state. And that state's power is maintained in every way that matters by the military. Which is staffed nearly entirely by "rightwing nutjobs".
Out in the world, leftists uniformly seem to scorn guns, while the right is pretty well stocked up.
So who is it that may need rescuing? And do the French have the stones to rescue ANYBODY from ANYTHING anymore? Does anyone else in the world? Maybe the Russians or Chinese...but they likely would just be happy that the Americans were otherwise occupied and out of their hair for a while.
I don't know if I'm a "rightwing nutjob" (probably a "leftwing nutjob" would call me one), but I'm for damned sure not a leftwing one. I'm kind of apathetic toward extreme rightists while sharing a few of their views but I hate the left like poison. They just SUCK, period. Anything they get isn't bad enough for what they've done.
you are taking life too seriously.
got humour?
ah, a backpedaling troll. Rare sight indeed. Please go away.
i've been here longer than you. request denied.
Wow. You must not have much to lose ...like the majority of the 'social justice' constituency.
You don't realize you're being played?
i can't decide whether to laugh or shake my head.
so i'll just write that i do both and actually do neither.
So... you're sitting in some boiler room getting paid $17/hr by this 'administration' to crank this shit out?
no, i'm doing this pro bono.
Pro Bono being a gross overpayment for your embarrassingly inept, low IQ trolling.
Tell your puerile Alinsky handlers to invest a few extra pennies in obtaining at least pedestrian propaganda attack morsels.
do you really believe what you type?
are you aware that the hemp compound cannabidiol may be an effective treatment option for paranoid schizophrenia?
Well, that's the right price! Exactly what 'public good' are you serving? Just curious...
it's a fair question.
ultimately, that's up to you and the viewers. if you've given any of my jokes/ideas a millisecond of thoughtful consideration, then i've done my job.
Trader1 is most likily a government disinformation officer. Classic shit getting people distracted.
if you're high now, i understand. if you're not high, then seek professional help.
...to get high
Cuz if it's that bad already at least it should be enjoyable.
Where the left is concerned after what they've done and all they've destroyed and the contempt in which they hold me?
No. No, I don't believe I've got any humor left in that area. It's pretty serious at this point.
by european standards, the states has no "left".
sorry, but you're imagining things.
psychiatric help is available if you can afford the insurance...
YOU ARE FREE TO DO WHAT WE TELL YOU!
Most of us here are ok with that. You guys can have them, and feel free to take the rest of out big govt authoritarians with you.
nature is authoritarian.
one simple reason: death/transformation is, dare i say, a universal law...
Word is the frogs are not afraid to liberate certain valuable resources from certain backwater war bands. Even then, they do need assistance.
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
I know myself as a peaceful person and if they snapped me in 2008 , then the masses are snapped as well......just one mistake and small spark away now.
hasn't that been the plan all along?
I think the plan was for the FSA to riot and demand justice from the Gov.
The REAL Mericans will kill the wrong people, like all the dumbasses throughout history have done.
There's a reason the smart-n-savvy get all the loot; the dumbasses really are semi-psychotic dumbasses. It's so easy to manipulate them, even a sociopathic cave-man could do it.
Not this time comrade. You might want to be careful yourself.
Ha, I'm not one of the "those people" who the dumbasses will be chasing around after their new sociopathic leader points them in the wrong direction.
You don't understand..."those people" don't have a leader and don't want one.
I'm afraid I have slowly and begrudgingly come to agree with that sentiment.
Back in the early 1900s, speculator Jay Gould stated that he could hire 50% of the workers (in America) to murder the other 50%.
Today, I suspect he could hire 85% to 90% to kill the remaining honest and sane 10%!
It really is that bad, just look at the recent union votes and Boeing, and Boeing responds (they gave in to Boeing's demands to kill their pensions eventually) by relocating engineering jobs, and it was the stoopid business union of the engineers who acquiesced.
Just look at the so-called recall vote in Wisconsin: the first time 40% of union households vote for anti-worker, anti-union
@sgt_doom:
You are correct. For absolute proof rather than idel speculation I refer to the 2010 Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Dauphin Island, Alabama was a staging area for BP. They shipped equipment, supplies and personnel to Dauphin Island for deployment to the spill area.
I grew up in Mobile, Alabama; just up the road. At the time I was a property owner on Dauphin Island. I spent my childhood there. There was a one room school house on the island where a single teacher taught all grades in a single room.
BP decided that they did not want anyone taking pictures or documentin what equipment they delivered and when they delivered it. They ere afraid people would learn about their slow reaction to the crisis.
The following things happened, I witnessed them personally:
The local environmentalists who had been anti-oil suddenly fell silent. It was later learned that BP contributed millions of dollars to their "research projects" that funded their work for years - alleviating them from having to secure grants to fund their paychecks.
The local police department received huge grants from BP allowing them to buy body armor, night vision and new cars. The police department turned a blind eye to all things done by BP.
The kicker was BP hiring unemployed workers from Maine to work sa security guards. They stood in public streets and threatened locals with arrest if they dared take pictures of the BP supplies being offloaded.
On further questioning and and outright challenges - they admiited they were not police and in fact they did not know who they worked for.
They were being paid $12 an hour to stand in the road a thousand miles from home and threaten people.
This is fact. I witnessed it.
We are going to have to kill fellow Americans. Period. They are willing to get on a bus, sleep in a dormitory and stand in the street for $12 an hour.
That's got to be one of the most ridiculous comments you've posted.
You pride yourself on being savvy enough to be able to predict the outcome of a situation based on past history, and yet call those who agree with your "predictions" semi-psychotic & sociopathic?
The average dumbasses will NEVER figure-out who the real enemy is. A large percentage humans are semi-psychotic automotons, they exist to be fed-upon by the sociopaths AND - when the time comes - manipulated into killing the smaller percentage of humans who ARE dangerous to the sociopaths: which is, those who are skeptical of authority.
NaRa your preaching to the choir here at Z/H. If you actually think that the readership of this site is going to suddenly go rogue on some "Dr. Zhivago"killing spree, your sadly mistaken.
The United States has been at war for almost 15 years! I'd give a little more credit to the population when it comes to conflict.
Finance on the other hand is a different matter. I find you lacking in that knowledge area as well. Do I ever put you down, or assault your character?
...crackle....pop! BOOM BOOM BOOM!
Btw, what's going on in Nevada right now could be the equivalent of April 17th, 1775 on Lexington Green. Folks are getting tired of the arrogance that goes with the lies.
I mentioned yesterday the timing of the Nevada incidents is what's bothering me.
April 19th is a big day in US government relations history. Not just Lexington and Concord, but the Branch Davidians and the OKC bombing, to mention a couple of the major incidents. The timing here reeks.
Indeed.
Thanks for bring this back in focus to the sibject matter. A man I have met recently introduced me into the concept of "The Peoples" COMMON LAW GRAND JURY. I was interested in something in this line and instead of mumbling in my beer and doing nothing about it, I seen a chance to maybe become useful in this concept.
Where did it come from?? From a Supreme Court Justice majority decision, believe it or not. "In a stunning 6-3 decision Justice Anthonin Scalia, writing for the majority confirmed "that the American Grand Jury is neither part of the Judicial, Executive or Legislative branches of the government belongs to the people. It is in effect (a) the fourth branch of government"governed" and administrated to directly by and on behalf of the American people, and its authority emenates from the Bill fo Rights>
I wiil tey and address this issue in the coming days and weeks. The man i spoke of earlier, Stave left Colorado tonight to drive all night to try and help negociate some manner of settlemwnt befor the possible arrival of many Texas and Montana Militia show up in Mesquite, Nv. to back the Bundys up. This could blow up or maybe become another Waco.
Steve, stay upright--you are way to smart to lose. Milestones
Those with nothing have nothing to lose.
Gerald Celente
Most of you city dickwads wouldn't last 5 minutes in the post Obama Marxist world and when these folks go postal look out cause these folks may see you as part of the problem....
So before you grab your popcorn, you'd be well advised to brush up on turret target practice.
mogul rider: "Most of you city dickwads wouldn't last 5 minutes in the post Obama Marxist world"
Yep . . . so true, but a country boy can survive (even those stuck in the city now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cQNkIrg-Tk
That gave me a hard-on.
Real Americans? You mean the effete, self absorbed sociopaths I see wiping pro golfer jizz from their chins after spending fucking HOUR ON END watching poorly dressed dorks chase around a small dimpled ball closely resembling their fat asses? Yeah, right. I won't hold my breath....
Your apathetic leadership is inspiring.
you hate golfers for some reason ?
I've played some, but find the game too slow and boring personally. (The game is a lot better if you go with buddys who don't give a damn and bring plenty of beer). Even though golf isn't my thing . . . I don't hate guys who like it though.
Did some golfer steal your wife or girlfriend ?
My wife thinks they're as ridiculous as I do. And those same golfing dipshits you seemingly hold in such high esteem are the same ones who would gladly steal every last penny to your name. You must simply idolize the Prez, eh goofball?
LOL - - - opps musta hit a sensitive spot.
You hate golfers.
Guess it takes all kinds to make a world.
Did a real man make off with your old lady?
No, firstly, your old lady likes it like a man and then I made you take it like a lady.
So you like your current government ?
Fuck off and Die.
2 years, 45 weeks, we never see you, and this is what you are going to do with it?
Amazing, aint' it.
what about asian women golfers? still not like?
Would rather play golf than die for a bunch a fucking cattle. Is that what you libertarians stand for these days, the act that will spark the revolution, a herd of cattle???
Don't fuck with us golfers or you'll have hell a'coming.
Wahoo, duh, it's not about the cattle. Go look for your balls
No shit, right? This is the caliber of your average ZH poster these days. Moron really thinks this is about cattle. Sad.
Well personally, I think bringing weapons and wearing camo on the Bundy ranch is bad strategy. Playing to the oppositions strength is a bad idea.
Better to bring lots of cameras, media, and explore the angle of Reid being involved in some deal with a Chinese solar company to grab the land.
But you probably think the American Revolution (only supported by a small minority in the beginning) was about a small rise in taxes and fees.
Pure genius. More cameras and explore the corrupt politician angle. Pure genius I tell you. Those things have been so effectual up til now. Lol. Any more suggestions from the brain trust? Do you come up with these ideas at the driving range?
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I would say it has been working quite well actually. The number of people waking up grows every day. Did you see the rally's for ron paul on the last election cycle. His numbers have grown since then. I just saw him speak recently and he packed the room. Cameras recording these thugs and posting them all over the Internet, like the videos of people interacting with the police and border patrol, get posted and reposted all over the Internet. That does far more to make people think than walking around this guys property with an AR over your shoulder.
When Ron Paul or someone like him gets elected, please wake me from my slumber. Until then, it's just more feelgood bullshit......
Rand ain't Ron
Good grief wake up already
The pauls are controlled opposition
"Did you see what happened, sir?"
"It would appear the senator fell in front of the oncoming bus."
Exactly what strength is that? 200 agents against upwards of 5000 militia? Even if only half are trained to shoot well that's 2500 : 200
Let the Feds start shooting.
Oh ... and those militia most LIKELY also have 50 BMG rifles dispersed among them .... unless the Feds bring in the US Army those guys are screwed even with MRAPs.
I think it was preordained for the vast openness of the West. Few places to hide and the eye of Sauron may see to the horizons from mechanical birds.
Feel free to throw some white, dimpled plastic balls on the barbie. When you get hungry, you can come back and let us know which is more important.
Behold the Real American who has your back, folks, i.e. not at all. While you're taking fire he's worried about his short game. I bet you'd like to go Bulbba Long, right?
Alright tough guy.
You're bitching about 'Mericans being Pussies yet all you offer is a hardass opinion on a blog. Go get your fucking gun and head into the shitstorm Rambo! What? You'd rather hang around a golf club house sizing up Nike shirt wearing dudes you can fantasize about sucking off behind the snack bar? WTF are you doing about it? That's right. Bitching like a Bitchass brat online. You'd capitulate to .gov knees on your neck and scream like a bitch as they tossed you around like the sack of shit that you are. Yeah, you are so much better than everyone. Fuckin faggot.
That was really impressive. Threw the obligatory "fucking faggot" in for good measure. "You a big Lee Marvin fan?" Lol
Look, I know I came back at you hard and I am also disgusted at the erosion of liberty and lack of desire to do anything, but there must be tact. I'm pissed too. I see lazy people accepting of massah's orduhs. We all are bitching on blogs. It doesn't amount to much. Don't get mad at fellow posters. Direct your ire correctly. I do the same shit. I fucking love Lee Marvin. We cool.
Listen, believe it or not, I've been down the civil disobedience route more times than I can count. My guess is I've been cuffed and stuffed more than just about every poster here. I've genuinely been peppered sprayed, beaten and arrested for speaking my mind, I have literally had people spit in my face for spelling out what our crooked kleptocracy and all powerful corporate interface mean for our long term prospects. I've paid dearly for my actions. My criminal record alone has FUCKED MY LIFE. So please spare me the "what have you done" speech. Heard it too many times from people who have never lifted a finger in defense of our liberty. Fact is I NEVER once witnessed another Real American put his ass on the line when the batons started falling. Not once. In fact a good number of them cheered on the very people they now profess to hate. They may have even agreed with what I was doing but it was always "oh no, that's not for me". So with all due respect most Americans are pussies and can go fuck themselves. Harsh but fair. Just a little color so you know where I'm really coming from. Yeah we're cool.....
The US federal government doesn't need the NSA to get a list of citizens that are armed and willing to fight. All they must do is threaten a red-blooded amerrrkin over some bullshit environmental issue and they all will come running, guns in tow, ready to be tagged and bagged.
Better to hide in a hole and hope they go away, right? Like that has ever worked.
And how can man die better than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods
Lock n load bitchez! Snap benies will only buy so much. Every day they buy less. Soon they will buy less and less peace.
Americans are pussies..............yes sir, no sir...................how about telling the cops to fuck off.
The whole thing was staged. Total BS
Exactly. Merricans gonna do absolutely FUCK ALL and they'll genuflect before their God Big Government and give thanks for the crumbs he bestows upon them.
I think you've mistaken the 1/2 of Americans on government handouts with the other half who still give a damn about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I read your comment and those of a similar vein and it makes me feel uncomfortable because it is all true. I hate it and the truth hurts...
"americans r pussy's.."
sad but true...they'll kill each other over establishment manufactured artificial differences but lay down like dogs before the MoneyChanger controlled law enforcement agencies....
"welcome to Terminus..."
i'll be missing though....
truly surprised by the downs...if u aint a pussy why bother...
u cant observe the decline in this society across all fronts and conclude that americans arent a bunch of brainwahshed easily hurede pussy's...
anyway, knock urselfs out...
Americans are "pussies" compared to what national group of tough-minded individualists?
an armed society is a polite society... you need to better understand what you're observing
I'm totally mystified by America. The "land of the free" it's Orwellian. You guys are like Pavlov dogs.
And specifically and in detail, how is YOUR team any better?
Well . . . IMO we should watch our natural human tendency for tribalism and supporting 'our team no matter what'.
Knowledge of this human weakness is often used by the psychopath control freaks to divert people from the corruption, by leading them off to war.
I would like to hear who that commenters 'team' is though.
One guy used to rag on what was going on in America (with some justification) . . . but was from China. Not exactly the center of human rights.
The fuse has been burning. The only question is, how long is it before it reaches the powder keg?
Watch out for the AHEM "real Americans" who have sat idly by while cops executed citizens for camping in the wrong spot. Or watched as the .0001% bleeds off their wealth and their children's wealth and their grand children's wealth. And pays obscene taxes to boot. And allows them to read their emails and eavesdrop on their phone calls. Shiiiiiitt. That's funny. I'm sure the Un real Americans are quaking in their boots.
A single grain of rice can tip the scales...
As regards the current gunfight at the NOT OK Corral, Drudge posted a link to an Infowars post on Harry Reid's family involvement in a Chinese takeover of the family farm, after arranging a below market deal for them for state land (http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-...). Others interviewed have said similar things.
In normal times, that alone, if proven, would get Reid a term in Federal prison, along with his son. The takeaway is that the farm is hugely valuable, even to those not currently considered potential enemies, of the primary nuclear sort, who are actually making life interesting at this moment with our lame Secretary of Defense (or were a day or so ago--I've been travelling). The general takeaway is that this ranch is hugely valuable, and has been coveted by numerous entities for a very long time. They have always been told to get lost, politely. Cue the big dogs.
Need to get someone more credible than Alex Jones on it. Say...maybe Sharyl Atkisson.
This is what the Chinese govt does to farmers. They take there land. This is a total setup.
Right after they get done spying, droning, fighting wars, and doing police state stuff for the bankers and billionaires they'll revolt. RAFF MY ASS OFF
Nevada senator Harry Reids son is the president of a shell corporation that is lined up to sell the land along the interstate north of Las Vegas that the Bundy ranch is on. The Nevada BLM Director is Harry Reids former chief aid. This entire thing stinks to the highest level of our government.
The Bundy family started improving the land to sustain people and cattle in 1870, before the BLM was created. If they dont have property rights, none of us do.
What ever happened to this?
Harry Reid may be implicated in online gambling corruption investigation - National Conservative | Examiner.com
Swept under the rug as usual?
“[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”
source: InfoWars
If there is a link to Reid, deals with the Chinese, and the Bundy ranch and that makes it on Drudge, - - - the criminals are toast on this one.
How will they be toast? The predators-that-be survive entire freaking world wars unscathed. I mean, I'd love to believe you, but you must provide some logic or evidence to convince me.
My impression is, Harry Reid is untouchable (politically or legally), because he carries too much water for the predators-that-be.
The link is on Drudge. At the top left.
Hard Assets - Right. Someone quick call the Justice Department. "Help Police!". In a land of lawlessness the citizens must become the police. They will but expect casualties.
And that solar farm will do more to send the desert tortoise to extinction than 500 years of this guy ranching the land.
Hell, Reid has probably ordered them to kill the rancher and his family.
These militia guys are looking at the pawns; they need to remove the Reidster.
Kill a few pawns and the Reidster will find that recruiting replacement talent ain't so easy.