• Sprott Money
    05/06/2016 - 06:03
    The US, in its own decline, is showing this same self-destructive tendency. The worse things get, the greater the inclination of the citizenry to say, “Carry on, everything’s fine.”

Stocks Plunge To New Lows For The Day

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The Dow, S&P, and Russell 2000 just pushed to fresh lows for the day after some dead-cat-bouncing hope intraday. Weakness in stocks is worse than FX carry for now but more in line with bond strength as Treasury yields push to new cycle lows. WTI Crude is up and gold is holding gains as the USD is stable.


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Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:26 | 4648322 slaughterer
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Thanks Tyler, you just signalled the bottom.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:35 | 4648370 CrashisOptimistic
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10 yr might make it to the 2.5s by close.

Rather more important than equities.

And most important of all, WTI flitting around $104.

Printing oil is still being studied in committee.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:48 | 4648441 NoDebt
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OT, but I suspect a better-analyzed ZH article on this shortly.... the Treasury is confiscating tax refunds from children whose parents under-paid on their taxes (or got a larger refund than they were entitled to):


No, it's not a proposal.  It's already happening right now.

Sins of the Fathers, bitchez.  Sins of the fathers.  Try to have a good weekend.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:51 | 4648456 DoChenRollingBearing
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You have a great weekend too!  LOL.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:50 | 4648449 DoChenRollingBearing
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CrashisOptimistic, what are you buying?  

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:12 | 4648543 CrashisOptimistic
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Just bought a Subway sandwich.

Roast chicken on white, toasted, lettuce, tomato, spinach, onions, one line of regular mustard -- I'll pay with points on my Subway frequent eater card.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:44 | 4648723 Skin666
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Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:52 | 4648458 Spitzer
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Yes. The bond market is all that matters.

When yields fall on bad news, thats when this 40 year credit cycle comes to an end. Anything in between is just noise.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:46 | 4648431 stocktivity
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"Sell in May and go away"

Close enough

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:41 | 4648708 walküre
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April showers bring May flowers!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:28 | 4648331 Devotional
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which is why you must be buying, right? 

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:31 | 4648348 svayambhu108
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Is it black, yet?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:35 | 4648354 TheRideNeverEnds
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no, I am selling.... index puts below the market.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:29 | 4648341 FieldingMellish
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<-- 3:30 ramp

<-- pre 3:30 ramp

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:31 | 4648344 NoDebt
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I might just do happy hour again this afternoon.  Maybe 3:00 kickoff this time, as oppsed to 4:00 yesterday.

"You're drivin' me to drinikin' in your hot rod Lincoln"

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:43 | 4648420 Headbanger
Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:31 | 4648352 wmbz
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I'm sure the "smart money" is loading up right now. Hopefully Cramer will blow a vessel screaming buy,buy,buy this go round!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:32 | 4648355 10mm
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And gold's up .50 lol. The days of micro moves are short lived About time.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:32 | 4648357 Winston Churchill
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Someone is selling dollars hard.Hard selling  into the close,no ramp will stop it.

Kevin is busy on his forex terminal.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:35 | 4648368 A_Nejad
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Say Hi to Kev, ask him about the mexican peso ;)

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:00 | 4648503 disabledvet
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we're gonna need a bigger wall I think.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:01 | 4648509 walküre
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Or someone is selling equities massively to convert into USD cash. There must have been a few margin calls by now from the momo roach hotel alone. Going head on with Russia is USD bullish. Someone outside the primary broker circle needs USD badly.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:32 | 4648360 asscannon101
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Stock are plunging?!? This is BULLISH in Bizarro World! Damn the fundamental realities- full speed ahead! MOARWARD!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:36 | 4648361 Dr. Engali
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Don't worry. The fed tapering and QE has nothing to do with the markets. They are all fundamentally driven. Oops stocks are going down. Damn, .gov was lying to us again about the strong eCONomy.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:37 | 4648386 NoDebt
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Too dangerous to short, though.  Fed announces a reversal in the taper (or even a pause in the taper schedule) and you get monkey-hammered.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:41 | 4648405 walküre
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They pretty much tried that earlier this week. Epic fail imo. The steam and excitement is gone. We will be slain and slaughtered no matter how well anyone thinks they're positioned. This is the world of "zero" hedge There is NO hedge against total global economic destruction and eventually war. Just live each day as if it was your last.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:41 | 4648411 Dr. Engali
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Agreed. There is no way I would jump on this. The Nasdark is getting ripped, but the down tick on the S&P is insignificant at this point. The fed killed the momos for sure.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:49 | 4648448 fonzannoon
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I am currently massively short amzn, tsla and fb and I have no plans to cover, in my ficticious brokerage account in my imagination.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:54 | 4648468 DoChenRollingBearing
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Since you are shorting those dogs in your imaginary accout, I am sure you will be doing very well.  

Funny how things change when you start doing it for real.


Duck & run while seeking shelter my friends!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:50 | 4648451 walküre
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Who knew about shorting pre 2008? Not J6P investor muppet. Now that J6P muppet has graduated with "Vector Vest" and other online bullshit, they will never allow any muppet shorting opportunity. The money is made on muppets, then and now and always. So think how the banks, brokers and MMs can make money in this HFT rigged, insider infested, near volume less market from the muppets. Once you can grasp that and maybe try and ride that train, you can make money. Other than that, it's best to stay out or get eaten alive.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:50 | 4648453 forwardho
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Next you'll say there is an organic recovery.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:34 | 4648366 Obama_4_Dictator
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Oh noes.....

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:36 | 4648377 Bastiat
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Looking at a one year chart, it would be no big deal for it to touch 1780--but if it cracks through there it could get interesting.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:37 | 4648385 new game
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why are we happy that our firends and family and fellow minions are losing their ill gotten gains whether it be in their pension or personnel portfolio?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:41 | 4648413 10mm
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Because they though we were crazy conspiracy types. They also listened to their ADVISORS.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:47 | 4648438 new game
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that too

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:02 | 4648517 Nick Jihad
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Paper losses, paper gains. Would you advise your friends to sell now, to lock their paper gains into fiat paper?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:37 | 4648387 walküre
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Recovery is in full swing. Stocks are no longer needed as a benchmark and key indicator of how well the economy is doing. The economy is great, it is perfectly ok to lose money in the stock markets now. Not a big deal as it will come back over the course of the next 10 years. Just look at the trendline going back 40 years. You don't want to be out. Just imagine what you would do with the money anyway. There's nothing left to buy. If you really need to sell and have the cash and the markets crashed, well every other asset class will have crashed too. It's a wash.

I'm the eternal muppet and I approve this message or any good news about the markets from my prophets at CNBC.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:05 | 4648529 Nick Jihad
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"Nothnig left to buy." sums it up. Lots of opportunities for return-free risk, for today's investor. Thanks Ben.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:37 | 4648389 new game
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could it be the hate of our masters?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:39 | 4648399 NOTaREALmerican
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What percentage drop do we have to experince to break-even with the 2008/9 low?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:07 | 4648541 Harbanger
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You won't hit the 2008/9 lows again because the crash will be a currency event.  Zimbabwe Stock Exchange soared during their currency crisis but only in nominal terms.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:39 | 4648403 Conax
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The page I check to see how the DOW is doing won't even load.

Too many muppets constantly refreshing it, no doubt.

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:40 | 4648409 OptionsHedge
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Guess Gartman was right!!!

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:50 | 4648748 Haager
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Makes me think if he's losing money - or did he in fact do what he has said?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:42 | 4648412 walküre
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The Blythe Vendetta trade? Who is she talking to?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:44 | 4648424 AdvancingTime
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Over the last several years a pattern of a random statements from the Fed and several other sources have caused crazy and illogical rallies. An unholy alliance of the Federal Reserve, the government, and the too big to fail has left those of us who question the validity of the recovery in a precarious position.

For the big boys, its computer trading that is able to exploit where stops are placed, this improves their ability to wash the timid and weak bears out of their positions in this manipulated market. More on why the bears should be cautious in the article below.


Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:46 | 4648428 OptionsHedge
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so what's keeping brazil (EWZ) up...the hedge fundies spy pair trade?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 14:53 | 4648465 jpc578
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The NASDAQ and the Russell lead the bull market since March 2009 and they are going to lead the way down. The NASDAQ peaked on March 5 and is now below 4,000. A decline of more than eight percent. The Russell peaked on March 4 and is down more than seven percent.

The only questions now are how much intervention is requierd fromt he Fed and is the Fed willing to intervene to such an extent?

Fri, 04/11/2014 - 15:03 | 4648522 disabledvet
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not unless prices lead the way higher.

"might have to start redefining the profit number" as a trillion ain't what it used to be.

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