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Ukraine Sends Special Forces To "Deal" With Separatists; Donetsk Police Chief Steps Down

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Update: The regional police chief of the east Ukrainian city of Donetsk said on Saturday he was quitting his post, bowing to demands from pro-Russian protesters. Above the police headquarters, the Ukrainian flag was no longer flying, and was replaced with a separatist flag, according to a Reuters witness. "In accordance with your demands I am stepping down," police chief Kostyantyn Pozhydayev told protesters.

So, one down?

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While the primary story regarding Ukraine remains the stand off between Kiev and the Kremlin over nat Gazprom's gas deliveries and Kiev's overdue, and as of today - officially halted payments - not a weekend passes without some city in eastern Ukraine falling to what are now called "pro-Russian separatists" and this Saturday is no different. While last week it was the eastern cities of Luhansk, Donestk and Kharkiv that saw their government building taken over and occupied by the "separatists", today it was the turn of Slaviansk, where masked men armed with pistols and rifles stood guard near the police station as hundreds of locals gathered around, some building barricades with car tyres.

According to Reuters, the masked men were wearing orange and black ribbons, a symbol of the Soviet victory in World War II that has been adopted by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine.

Slaviansk is in the Donetsk region about 150 km (90 miles) from the Russia-Ukraine border. Pro-Russian groups have also occupied public buildings in the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk, and are demanding autonomy from Kiev.

As is well known by now, officials in Kiev's Western-leaning interim government say Russian forces may be preparing to cross the frontier into Ukraine on the pretext of protecting the pro-Russian activists from persecution, though Moscow denies this. And since the narrative is quite clear, and since Kiev itself has been the most desperate to escalate the conflict with Russia into outright war in hopes of getting NATO backing, it is never quite clear just who is behind any provocation.

And as if to formally accelerate the fallout Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said police would deal very firmly with the group in Slaviansk. "There is a difference between protesters and terrorists," he wrote on his Facebook page.

Bloomberg added that Ukraine has sent special forces troops to deal with camouflaged gunmen occupying police station in Slovyansk in Donetsk region of east Ukraine, also citing Avakov's Facebook account. He added that the ministry response "will be very tough" with "zero tolerance for armed terrorists."

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Deshchytsia said Kiev was ready to listen to the demands of protesters in eastern Ukraine, but if negotiations fail, the police were ready to act. "We do consider that these actions are inspired and prepared in Russia and encouraged by some of the Russia agents in Ukraine," he told BBC radio.


At least 20 armed militants wearing mismatched camouflage outfits took over the police and security services headquarters in the eastern city of Slaviansk, about 150 km (90 miles) from the border with Russia, seizing hundreds of handguns.


Police said gunmen later took over the local headquarters of Ukraine's SBU security service.


Ukraine's acting foreign minister, Andriy Deshchytsia, urged Russia to end what he called "provocative actions" by its agents in a phone call with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.


Government buildings in two other Russian-speaking cities, Donetsk and Luhansk, have been occupied by separatists since last weekend, in what the new pro-Europe leadership in Kiev says is part of a plan drawn up by the Kremlin to dismember Ukraine.

Of course, it is indeed true that Russia is merely waiting for the opportunity to respond to "special forces" retaliation and escalate a la Crimea to protect the ethnic Russians living there. The only question is whether Kiev will respond this time, or fold completely like it did when Russia annexed Crimea after its western "allies" did absolutely nothing to assist the new government. 

Here is RT's take on events:

Anti-Kiev demonstrators have taken control of police office in the town of Slavyansk, Eastern Ukraine. The town's mayor, however, believes police have taken the side of the protesters, and are going to back their calls for a secession referendum. Kiev has promised a heavy-handed response and sent special forces there, but they are being blocked by demonstrators in the regional centre, Donetsk.

Clips from the scene:

Slaviansk is not the only city where separatists are revolting against the Kiev regime today: Donetsk is once again in the spotlight.


And in other news, Ukraine officially announced it was suspending payments to Russia for deliveries of gas. As has been extensively reported here, a large proportion of the natural gas which EU states buy from Russia is pumped via Ukrainian territory, so if Russia makes good on a threat to cut off Ukraine for non-payment of its bills, customers further west will have supplies disrupted.

Andriy Kobolev, chief executive of Ukraine's state-run energy company Naftogaz, said the increased price Russia was demanding for its gas was unjustified and unacceptable.

"Accordingly, we have suspended payments for the period of the price negotiations," Kobolev was quoted as saying in an interview with Ukraine's Zerkalo Nedely newspaper.

So congratulations America and Europe: you are now officially on the hook to pay for Gazprom's invoices. And to think it all started as a noble mission to "preserve democracy" in a country that sent its president in exile through a violent, Western-orchestrated coup.


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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:45 | 4650728 Smiley
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Sorry Ukraine, your body-guard is broke and has been castrated.  Betcha wish you held on those nukes now eh?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:49 | 4650735 Element
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Someone or several someones got paid a whole lot of money to make those go away.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:02 | 4650760 john39
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time for blackwater mercs to earn their blood money.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4650828 HardAssets
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john39:  "time for blackwater mercs to earn their blood money."


Check this story out -

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4650848 SimplePrinciple
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Are they confirmed as Blackwater? Hard to know one mercenary from another.  ZH had said Graystone. Greystone has denied it. George Washington sent the Hessian mercenaries packing by crossing the Delaware on Christmas.  Perhaps the Ukrainians can achieve the same result, presumably before Chrismas. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:53 | 4650856 HardAssets
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@ SimplePrinciple:  Like so much 'news' its hard to sort out fact from ficition. Will be interesting to see what comes of it though. Given the level of admitted interference by the west in the region, its completely credible that they would do this.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:08 | 4650878 john39
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Truth, justice and the american way?  Just repeat after me, the hate us because we are free.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:03 | 4651083 NoDebt
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Unreported is WHERE the police chief went after stepping down.  Unconfimed reports have circulated that he fled west from Donetsk to the town of Donutsk.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:10 | 4651110 Leaping Lizard
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Dunkenski Donutsk

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:08 | 4651101 Omen IV
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I dont think so - action begets reaction - NATO and serious Ukraine military response faces stoppage for all of Europe on gas transmission

Germany wants zero disruption

so the action by Ukraine authorities to stop paying for the gas - creates sequential reaction - for russia to stop transmission or not - if not  - must  put Russia in postion to respond on random pretext - local cops will suprevise referendum once covered by Russian troops and gas transmission will continue - EXCEPT - for western Ukraine will be shut off once Junction points are secured and make them cave on ALL demands in return for bargain purchase of transmission lines in trade for outstanding debt owed to Russia

Banks get squat!

USA must huff and puff - Germans in street on the side of Putin on this not Merkel

so what will USA do besides losing its reserve currency status?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:12 | 4651117 Leaping Lizard
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But many of the junction points are in Western Ukraine.  How are they "secured?"  

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:29 | 4652797 StychoKiller
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Ukraine would be slitting their own throats by disrupting NatGas to the EU, because their supposed friendz would then be inconvienced.  These 4th-Reich fscks have painted themselves into a corner.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:06 | 4650872 svayambhu108
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Where'? that video ?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:08 | 4651102 Leaping Lizard
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Go to Wikipedia.  Type in Greystone.  In the Other Uses heading, click on 

Academi pops up, Eric Prince's holding company for Blackwater.  To paraphrase Shakespeare, a Blackwater thug by any other name is still a Blackwater thug.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:51 | 4651235 Fractal Parasite
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They always have to have these crappy names.


Rothschild (red shield)

What next, fuckin' "pink wand"??

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:30 | 4652801 StychoKiller
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Let's go with "Winky, the one-eyed Wonder Worm!" :>D

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:15 | 4651127 basho
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send in the body bags. these guy are toast.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:10 | 4650771 Stoploss
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Just as lomg as they have their big girl panties on..

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:31 | 4652807 StychoKiller
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"As long as they got the curves, I got the angles!" -- Wolfman Jack  :>D

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:19 | 4650913 agent default
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Sale of SS18 ICBM technology by the Ukrainias to the highest bidder.

(use google translate)

A very stupid move to get back to Russia.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:20 | 4650795 agent default
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Yeah I am sure that if they had nukes, Russia would have tolerated a bunch of neonazis getting their hands on them. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:04 | 4650870 Smiley
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NATO never would have risked destabilizing a nuclear armed nation and the NeoNazis never would have attained any tangible influence.  Perception is reality, and perceived weakness is an invitation to have the will of others imposed upon you.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:36 | 4651639 Buck Johnson
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No kidding, they where a bunch of fools giving up their nukes.  You are treated differently if you have nukes than if you don't. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:46 | 4650730 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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AKA Blackwater mercenaries... and the proxy war goes hot.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:52 | 4650740 Global Hunter
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By special forces I first thought they meant Treadstone err Greystone too

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:52 | 4652260 PT
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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:55 | 4650744 Element
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Blackwater staff could get a little home visit if they keep it up, a few Russan Spec-ops might say hi.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:12 | 4650778 agent default
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Blackwater boys better look out because mercenaries are not covered by the Geneva convention.

When the Russians said they will shoot on the spot any mercenary they get their hands on, they meant it and in fact it is perfectly legal to do so.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4650842 new game
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no hesitation, instant mind cordination to the physical target while pulling the trigger after the institanious sight alignment, free of any emotions resultive of the result. summary on my resume; am i hired?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:01 | 4650867 SimplePrinciple
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Yes, but you must wear a black hat to avoid confusion.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:21 | 4650874 agent default
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Vassili Blokhin recommended a leather apron and leather cap.  But mind you he was a true master of the trade, an artist, genius.  You know a bit like the Bernank was with the printing press, he was that good.  I am sure all those Blackwater hard asses would have loved the idea of an appointment with him.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:53 | 4650738 Element
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"So congratulations America and Europe: you are now officially on the hook to pay for Gazprom's invoices. And to think it all started as a noble mission to "preserve democracy"... in a country that sent its president in exile through a violent coup."

"If you break it you own it" - PNAC

That worked-out so well with Iraq.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:37 | 4652826 StychoKiller
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"They" broke it, but are refusing to pay for it!  Someone call the Cops!

Putin:  "Righteous Force, I has it!"

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:52 | 4650741 IReallyDontCare
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"zero tolerance for armed terrorists." The pot calling the kettle black.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:55 | 4650745 SmilinJoeFizzion
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The one guy on this planet you don't want to owe money to is Vlad

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:57 | 4650748 tony wilson
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real kiev special forces from hungary,hereford,london,tel aviv,romania and washington dc.

the best rothschild teams money can buy.

the monsanto chevron contracts have already been signed the debt must flow in the resources out that is the law.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:08 | 4650768 Infinite QE
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The only correction I would make is that it is US taxpayer money paying for this.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:50 | 4650852 Kirk2NCC1701
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The only correction I'd make is that the US tax payers are "paying"** jack.

Not when the runs a budget deficit in the $ Trillion range, with said Deficit being "financed" via gimmicks between the Fed and the ECB (Brussels) - given that other countries have pretty much given up on buying US Debt.

** They are merely on the hook for said 'obligations' made in their name, w/o their knowledge or consent.

The countdown to Monetary Reset is on.  Tick, tock...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:49 | 4651015 Infinite QE
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Yes sir, but the reset will be paid for by the citizenry, not the khazar overlords. A reset of a 50% reduction in the value of the US peso will mean advanced pain and suffering by the serf donkeys of the US.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:39 | 4652833 StychoKiller
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Meh, put in on the "MasterCard", it's everywhere we want to be!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:51 | 4650853 new game
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correction to correction-50 percent coerced and 50 percent printed

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 09:57 | 4650749 IridiumRebel
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Blood Red Moons are huge for world change. Tuesday ought to be fun.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:48 | 4650847 PT
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Last year it was Comet Ison (Yeah, what did happen to New Thor?), the year before it was the end of the Mayan calendar, I guess one of these days one of those weird signs will co-incide with "the end" and we can declare that superstition the successful one for the day.

Dont like to be harsh - I like hearing these weird ideas, but they don't have a good track record.


On the other hand, "No-one knows the day nor the hour" so as long as someone out there is predicting "the end", we should be safe!  ...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:12 | 4650890 HardlyZero
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Caligula had Incitatus and conversations with the moon.   It might all fit this time around.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:54 | 4650858 TPTB_r_TBTF
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that sounds awfully syzygy.


Tuesday is only the beginning of the end.  The really interesting Red Moon Rising date is Sept. 28 2015, the last of the Tetrad.


A total of 4 eclipses occurring at approximately six month intervals will occur during the Apocalypse.  The total eclipse of April 15, 2014, will be followed by another on Oct. 8, 2014, and another on April 4, 2015, and yet another on Sept. 28 2015.  


NASA:  Tetrad of Lunar Eclipses

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:34 | 4650955 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Previous Tetrads of Blood Red Moons:

The Jewish Talmud (book of tradition / Interpretation) says; “When the moon is in eclipse, it is a bad omen for Israel. If its face is as red as blood, (it is a sign that) the sword is coming to the world.”



Is Israel going to be involved in a war during the blood red moons of 2014 and 2015?  According to ancient Jewish tradition, a lunar eclipse is a harbinger of bad things for Israel.  If that eclipse is blood red, that is a sign that war is coming.  And blood red moons that happen during Biblical festivals seem to be particularly significant.  There was a “tetrad” of blood red moons that fell during Passover 1967, the Feast of Tabernacles 1967, Passover 1968 and the Feast of Tabernacles 1968.


Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:27 | 4651166 ThirdWorldDude
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Jewish religious holidays do not have a static date and always fall on the first night of a full moon.

Besides, tetrad lunar eclipses don't always mean bad things for jews - there was one in 1948-49, precisely at the time AngloZionists granted statehood to Israel. 

Conclusion: jews are only programmed that bad things happen during lunar eclipses; a programming that gives their leaders excuses to do stupid things during such events...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:58 | 4651057 IridiumRebel
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Thanks for expounding. Now please down vote me.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:01 | 4650756 Ignatius
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So the Russian speakers of Eastern Ukraine are being told that they may not seperate and must lose the Russian and adopt the Ukrainian language per an earlier Kiev decree?

Oh, this should end well.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:10 | 4650772 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The Russians could go home you know.


I wonder, why so many Russians decide to live outside of Russia?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:26 | 4650806 BlindMonkey
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The Soviets were afraid of the strong Russian nationalism.  The early leaders were not Russians but came from the other Republics.  The USSR policy was to make the Russians disperse throughout the USSR.  There are many enclaves of Russians throughout the former republics that don't speak the native languages.  


Basically it was the same cause as most fucked up situations around the world, government policies. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:43 | 4650836 Arius
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are you saying the Russians in eastern ukraine are transplants during soviet times ? 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4650850 BlindMonkey
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That is exactly what I am saying. Same with Moldova, Georgia, etc. My fiancée is Russian that was born in Moldova. She doesn't speak a lick of the Moldovan language and neither do her parents or siblings.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4650908 TPTB_r_TBTF
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It is ok that members of the Russian Empire do not speak the local language of the area they are occupying.

Yanks get criticized for it though.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:01 | 4651076 Arius
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Blind Monkey - i think you might want to check your facts.


I am not an expert on that part of the World, but from what I have the recent days, Crimea was given to Ukraine by Hrushev in 1950s, and it has been Russian for the last few hunderds years, the soviets have been in existence only the last century

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:07 | 4651098 BlindMonkey
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Kruchev was Ukrainian and was the one that split gifted Crimea to the Ukrainian republic. I don't see any inconsistencies but let me know.  I am teachable.  I have only started my deeper understanding of Russian relatively recently. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 15:06 | 4651486 silvermail
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I'm sorry, to pee on your bonfire, but all your guesses and assumptions are very far from the real truth.
First, those Russian people who live in the Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov and the rest of South-Eastern Ukraine, are indigenous inhabitants of these lands. Bolsheviks, annexed all this land from Russia to Ukraine, together with the indigenous Russian population. The Bolsheviks did it violently, through tears, sorrow and blood of the Russian people. All Russian, who were against this accession for Ukraine, was physically destroyed or sent to the Gulag camps.

This is a map of lands, that Russia gave Ukraine in different years:

Moreover, the Ukrainian famine, which you call as "Stalin's struggle against the Ukrainians," in fact, occurred on these former Russian lands.
Most of Russian people was dead of this hunger, but not Ukrainians. But Western propaganda always lies about it, with the aim to put the Ukrainians as a "victim of genocide by the Russian."

Secondly, trying to talk about Russia and Russians, you should understand one very important detail: "Russian" - is not a nationality. "Russian" - a state of soul and mind. Great Russian Empress Catherine II, was German. But she was Russian in her soul. The great Russian poet Pushkin - was Ethiopia. But he was a Russian soul. Great Russian Admiral Kolchak was a Turk. But he was a Russian soul. All Russian history is filled with outstanding personalities from the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, France and so on. All of these great people have contributed immensely to the development of Russia . They were citizens of Russia and considered it an honor to be called "Russian". They were Russian soul and mind.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 01:17 | 4655907 matrix2012
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@ silvermail

I do appreciate your many clarifying narratives about the Russian nation, people and the true history... what you just wrote above could be too hard for those raised during the great globalization push, they may find it pretty difficult to grasp the understanding of nation building, nationalism, national identity, and other similar concepts...

There are simply too many disinformation and propaganda news about the Bolshevik USSR, equalizing them as the RUSSIAN people by the mainstream media. They are trying very hard to put the stigma upon the Russian people's shoulders all the negative things done by the former USSR.

Thank you for the efforts to fill in the voids of the true history and to put things on the right perspectives... dispersing the forged mirage by the MSM about the Russian people and nation!!


ps: i understand no single word of the song in the video of your posted youtube link yet i can see it's a wonderful yet a sadful, melancholic song, possibly lamenting the torture of life and the state of being severed from the motherland (losing out the territories)!

Language, culture and ways of life are the key parts of one's identity!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:55 | 4650859 Kirk2NCC1701
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You must mean "I wonder why a country so envied for its "Freedoms" needs to have hundreds of military bases all over the world -- even on the soil of allies -- and use the NSA to spy on friends".

Truth and cognitive dissonance can be a real bitch sometimes.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:16 | 4650900 TPTB_r_TBTF
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No, that is not what i mean.


I mean,

why is it ok for Russia to settle the surrounding countryside and then vote  to be annexed,

but it is not ok for Zionist Settlers to do this?  (not that i think either is ok!)

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:07 | 4651096 CrashisOptimistic
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Russie didn't do that.  The Soviet Union did.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:26 | 4652375 silvermail
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For the complete victory of American democracy, Lavrov must urgently come to Donetsk and start handing out cookies in the town square.
Damn, where Lavrov with cookies when we need it?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4650904 HardlyZero
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The long term plan.   The pensioners in Crimea are noe getting, since last week, a 'winning' boost to their periodic Russian government payments.

The liberal post-Soviet Russian passport policy for 20 years has also supported this campaign.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:20 | 4650916 TPTB_r_TBTF
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kinda like the Zionist Settlers Long Term Plan?  Settle the surrounding area and then annex it?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:16 | 4651128 Omen IV
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why are there so many chinese in USA?

why are there so many Mexicans in USA?

why are there so many Swedes in USA?

why are there so many Italians in USA?

why are there so many Irish in USA?

you Fucking Moron!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:05 | 4650765 agent default
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Looks like Russia has put Ukraine in a position where they refuse/cannot afford to to pay their gas bills.  The only conclusion here is that Russia has decided to pull the plug on the EU for good. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:08 | 4650770 TPTB_r_TBTF
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So the US can begin providing fracked gas to the EU real soon now?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:15 | 4650783 A_Nejad
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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:25 | 4650805 agent default
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Stop talking about Alaska.  Vlad might remind himself it was theirs and decide he wants it back.  Do not talk about Alaska.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4650886 ThirdWorldDude
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Look at the bright side, ad: USSA can demand its $7.2 million back, inflation adjusted of course. 


BTW, this is some "serious journalism" by Reuters: 'the masked men were wearing orange and black ribbons, a symbol of the Soviet victory in World War II that has been adopted by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine.'

1. The ribbon has a name - it's called the ribbon of St. George.

2. It's not just "a symbol of Soviet victory in WWII", but it has existed since the late XVIII century.

3. It's been "adopted by pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine" for a good reason - St. George's ribbon is a Russian symbol, and them being Russians it would be inappropriate if they adopted SS Galizien symbols.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:10 | 4650888 SimplePrinciple
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Wait long enough and Alaska will vote for it.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:18 | 4650907 Debt Slave
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After a time it will seem perfectly logical and reasonable.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:11 | 4650774 Uncle Remus
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That implies that Germany will cease to be part of the EU.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:47 | 4650846 BlindMonkey
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"Looks like Russia has put Ukraine in a position where they refuse/cannot afford to to pay their gas bills."

They missed their payment and the price reverted to the unsubsidized price agreed to in contract in 2009. Russia didn't put them into any position. The Ukrainians thought the could stuff it up Putin's ass.


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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:22 | 4650921 BlindMonkey
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 Thinking about it a bit further, it reminds me a bit of the situation in Iraq after the first gulf war.  There was a civil war because the opposition to Saddam thought that the U.S. had their back.  The Ukraine thought the same thing and were overly emboldened and made a series of very bad decisions.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:04 | 4651086 Arius
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is that right?  now thats news to me ... i thought it was more of a sectarian war over there ... whatever ...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:13 | 4651111 BlindMonkey
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Yep. Here is a brief outline. George Bush (elder) radio address to the Iraqi people:

"There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: and that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations."

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:27 | 4650934 HardlyZero
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Ukr has not paid their bills for 10 years.  These arrangements, Russia supports Ukr, Germany member EU, China supports Ukr,....these are all necessary expenses and arrangements at that time.   These show 'solidarity' and 'leadership'.

Arrangements are changing now.

Even if Germany were to exit EU, then Germany would still be in NATO and have US bases. 

Since it is getting 'freed up' and in flux, what will happen this weekend, or this month...the weather is variable, and next winter approaches in 6 months.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:12 | 4650777 beaglebog
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Special Forces ... behind the badge, they are made of meat.


Just like you and me.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:34 | 4650947 HardlyZero
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I have a strong belief this is all Kabuki.  The Ukr government is only in search for a Sugar Daddy to bail them out.  If the West comes up with a pain free solution then Ukr will take it.  If Russia takes over and all debts are null and void, then Ukr will do that.   It is all an attempt to get some country, or organization, to do something QUICK. Before the next winter arrives.

It is all show and false.   I guess the taking of the weapons is the only serious event, but the Ukr is just waiting for someone to take them over.

If the takeover (by West or East) does not othewise occur, the Ukr population will EXODUS south for the next winter.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:12 | 4650779 tony wilson
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Ukraine Sends Special Forces To "Deal" With Separatists Who Take Over Another East Ukraine City



The domino theory existed from the 1950s to the 1980s. It was promoted at times by the us government and speculated that if one state in a region came under the influence of communism , then the surrounding countries would follow in a domino effect.

The domino theory was used by successive United States administrations during the coldwar to justify the need for American intervention around the world.



imagine the heated panic in chatham house in brookings in all of those jewish run masonic think tanks.

ukraine death by a thousand separatist cuts.


seal team 6 are all dead others on the run others askin why are the cia killin us.


the dirty work here will be done by private security firms uk,usa,israel

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4650827 agent default
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I don't think there is a domino in the old cold war sense of the term.  US power is waning and all the artificially imposed regional balances imposed by the US are collapsing.  That's all we are seeing now, the unwinding of the US power play.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:14 | 4650782 kchrisc
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Reid and his son have a land and solar deal in East Ukraine too?!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:29 | 4650814 shovelhead
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Solar deals AND Eastern Ukrainian desert turtles to protect.


Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:22 | 4650799 y3maxx
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Four Western Cdn Provinces should secede....only 12.5 million citizens with a plethora of natural resources.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:45 | 4650841 BurningFuld
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And then get Nukes.  Just go totally freakin' rouge.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:49 | 4650849 robertocarlos
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Why would you include the commie shit-hole Manitoba? It's full of Ukrainians.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:37 | 4650825 Kina
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I see even the Huffington Post has joined the NSA spy forces to record who says what about what. If you want to comment..have to veryify your access with your Facebook account.


So if you make comments that TPTB don't like it will noted who you are..


Thanks scum Huffington Post...another spy ring scum.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:02 | 4652115 Leaping Lizard
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The NSA knows whether all commenters have been naughty or nice regardless of the sign-in.  Really!

But a FaceFuck sign-in does add insult to injury.  Do you need a selfie photo profile also?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:38 | 4650829 q99x2
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If the people of Ukraine can kick some globalists ass and take back their cities so can America.

Do what you can to make your city a globalist free zone.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 10:43 | 4650835 Thought Processor
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That would be a step in the right direction.   

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:08 | 4650881 Debt Slave
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Another fine example of democracy at the point of a gun.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:14 | 4650883 Infinite QE
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In other news, whilst the khazar war-mongering, oven-ready cocksuckers pollute Amerika with their Monsatan products. Who's the `free' country again?


RUSSIA WILL NOT IMPORT GMO PRODUCTS. “If the Americans like to eat GMO products, let them eat it then. We don’t need to do that; we have enough space and opportunities to produce organic food,” said Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.



And in case anyone needs to know the origins of Monsatan:

MONSANTO Family Were
Jewish Slave Dealers And Owners


And lastly, whilst the salaries of banksters are railed on and on about, look at the salary of the khazar tasked with programming into zombi status the goyem donkeys:

CBS Corp. prexy-CEO Leslie Moonves took home a whopping $66.9 million in 2013


Enjoy your Saturday!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:29 | 4650944 Debt Slave
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CBS Corp. prexy-CEO Leslie Moonves took home a whopping $66.9 million in 2013

America, fuck yeah.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:05 | 4652126 Leaping Lizard
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I'm sure he earned it  /sarc

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:09 | 4650885 JR
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To H with Reuters. Listen to the silent scream, listen to the people...

Voices of Ukraine: 'Kiev, people are not cattle!'

 --  Andre Vltchek, a novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist who has covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries, writes on RT: 

“I doubt where the official numbers come from, those that say that Ukraine is evenly divided between those who support the West, and those who feel their identity is closely linked with Russia.

“Maybe this might be the case in western Ukraine, in Lvov, or even in the capital, Kiev. But western Ukraine has only a few key cities. The majority of people in this country of around 44 million are concentrated in the south, east and southeast, around the enormous industrial and mining centers of Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk and Krivoi Rog.

“There is Odessa in the south, and Kharkov, ‘the second capital,’ in the east. And people in all those parts of the country mainly speak Russian. And they see, what has recently happened in Kiev as an unceremonious coup, orchestrated and supported by the West…”

From the article…

“Look what is happening in Kiev,” exclaims Alexandra Tsyganskaya, the owner of the restaurant (‘Camelot Bar’). “The US and the West were planning this; preparing this, for months, perhaps years! Now people in Ukraine are so scared, most of them are only whispering. They are petrified. There is such tension everywhere, that all it would take is to light a match and everything will explode.”

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:21 | 4651144 smacker
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We have all known for years that the USG rampages around the world imposing its will and whenever necessary its loyal, obedient servant: the British gov, follows on behind and ratchets up the PR campaign.

But what we are seeing here for probably the first time is the unelected EU Commission under President Barroso involve itself directly in non-EU geo-politics, regime change and funding revolutions to further its own aims of becoming a new empire.

I can guarantee 100% that if the Brit PM Cameron ever calls a referendum on UK EU membership, matters such as this (and many others where the EU has grossly overstepped its authority) will never get discussed.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 14:15 | 4651472 JR
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Smack on, smacker. And great post on Frontrunning yesterday. Bares repeating :

From the Reuters article:  "...a day after President Vladimir Putin wrote to the European Union warning that its supplies could be disrupted if Ukraine failed to cover its bills, European officials said they had little to fear and would help Ukraine pay."

OK. So the bankrupt EU, run by the totally unelected EU Commission Maoist/Marxist/Fascist "President Barroso", is going to help Ukraine pay its gas debts to Russia. The EU only has money that it collects from EU member states. No other source of income.

Further, since the EU is a substantial net importer itself of gas from Russia, any gas it supplies to Ukraine to avoid the "pre-payment" requirement that Putin tabled for future supplies of gas to Ukraine, will obviously be gas that the EU is buying from Russia and re-selling to Ukraine. Since Ukraine is also bankrupt, one wonders if the price the EU charges it for re-sold gas will be the same price the EU pays Russia for it OR whether it will sell-on to Ukraine at a discount to help it further, thereby subsidising Ukraine thru the back door. It should be noted that Ukraine is NOT an EU member state.

All this without a single word of approval from EU citizens. There is zero democratic accountability anywhere in the EU.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:24 | 4650926 Uncle Remus
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:09 | 4651105 smacker
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That's progress. When I saw a PR photo of GW Bush looking thru field glasses, somebody forgot to remove the lens caps.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:48 | 4650996 _ConanTheLibert...
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On the update: does this mean the special forces can, after a vodka and a hooker, go home now?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 11:51 | 4651023 deflator
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:23 | 4651151 Philalethian
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Speaking of special forces, looks like one got captured dressed as a spetsnaz in the Ukraine.



Sat, 04/12/2014 - 13:52 | 4651405 beaglebog
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What is being said on that video?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 02:31 | 4655992 matrix2012
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from a poster at the liveleak link:

"where did you catch him, ... , look what he had (weapons?), who the f.. are you bitch? who are you". Someone says: "careful, don't kill him guys". "Who are you? American? You bitch..."


Sat, 04/12/2014 - 12:34 | 4651156 DrunkenMonkey
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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 13:50 | 4651401 OldmanRick1
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It would seem that all those separatists are actually Russian troops masquerading as Ukranians.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:04 | 4652894 The_Prisoner
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Special forces have refused orders to attack.

The Saker has been providing pretty good coverage on the issue.




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