Why The Standoff At The Bundy Ranch Is A Very Big Deal

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of The Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

If you haven’t been following the unfolding drama at the Bundy Ranch about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas you need to start now. The escalating confrontation between irate local residents and federal agents of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has the potential to take a very dangerous turn for the worse at any moment, as hundreds of militia members from states across the country are expected to descend upon the area and make a stand with 67-year-old Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.

Before I get into any sort of analysis about what this means within the bigger picture of American politics and society, we need a little background on the situation. The saga itself has been ongoing for two decades and the issue at hand is whether or not Mr. Bundy can graze his 900 head of cattle on a particular section of public lands in Clark County. Cliven Bundy has been ordered to stop on environmental grounds to protect the desert tortoise, but he has stood his ground time and time again. As a result, the feds have now entered the area and are impounding his cattle. According to CNN, Between Saturday and Wednesday, contracted wranglers impounded a total of 352 cattle. The Bundy family, as well as a variety of local residents have already had confrontations with the BLM agents. Tasers have been used and some minor injuries reported. Most significantly, militia members from across the country have already descended upon the area and it seems possible that hundreds may ultimately make it down there.

To me, the argument of who is right and who is wrong in this situation is the least interesting part of the story. I have noted time and time again that the feds are becoming increasingly out of control and belligerent to American citizens. We know the stories (think Aaron Swartz) and we know the overall trend trend. However, the reason the Bundy Ranch confrontation is so interesting, is that for whatever reason this particular incident seems to be striking a chord of dissent. It is often times the most random, unforeseen and innocuous things that spark social/political movements. This standoff has it all.

From CBS News:

LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas/AP) — Militia groups are rallying behind a rancher whose cattle are being seized by the federal government.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that two militia members from Montana and one from Utah have arrived at Cliven Bundy’s ranch.

“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” Ryan Payne of the West Mountain Rangers told the Review-Journal. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”

 

Payne said that militias from New Hampshire, Texas and Florida are likely to join and stand with Bundy and stay at his ranch.

 

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne told the Review-Journal, adding that hundreds of militia members are expected.

 

Lawmakers are adding their voices into the fray, criticizing the federal cattle roundup fought by Cliven Bundy who claims longstanding grazing rights on remote public rangeland about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

 

Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada said he told new U.S. Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze in Washington, D.C., that law-abiding Nevadans shouldn’t be penalized by an “overreaching” agency.

 

Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval pointed earlier to what he called “an atmosphere of intimidation,” resulting from the roundup and said he believed constitutional rights were being trampled.

The fact that a U.S. Senator and the Governor are publicly coming out agains the feds is in my opinion a very big deal and may signal the beginning of a true fracturing in the social fabric. Something that I have been expecting for many years.

Heller said he heard from local officials, residents and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association and remained “extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure.”

 

The federal government has shut down a scenic but windswept area about half the size of the state of Delaware to round up about 900 cattle it says are trespassing.

 

Sandoval said he was most offended that armed federal officials have tried to corral people protesting the roundup into a fenced-in “First Amendment area” south of the resort city of Mesquite.

 

The site “tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution” and should be dismantled, Sandoval said.

People being rounded up like cattle in these bullshit “First Amendment areas” is completely unacceptable.

BLM spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon and Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover have told reporters during daily conference calls that free-speech areas were established so agents could ensure the safety of contractors, protesters, the rancher and his supporters.

 

Meanwhile, federal officials say 277 cows have been collected. Cannon said state veterinarian and brand identification officials will determine what becomes of the impounded cattle.

The kindling for social upheaval has been growing in America for quite some time. Disrespectful and ignorant statements from billionaire oligarchs like Sam Zell only make it worse. The question in my mind has always been what will the catalyst be to spark the brushfire? Will it be the Bundy Ranch? We’ll have to wait and see.

Personally, I hope cooler heads prevail and there is no violence, because once you head down the road of violent confrontation between the people and the feds you are opening up a can of worms that will not easily be bottled up again. In such a situation, everybody loses. However, my long-term fear is that unless the government and its puppet masters on Wall Street and elsewhere in big business change course, social upheaval will prove inevitable, whether the Bundy Ranch sparks it, or some other incident down the road. These are troubled times and they are likely going to get worse before they get better.

This picture basically says it all:

Bundy ranch

Full article here.

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The latest news is a 'win' for Bundy for now...

The gathering of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle in northeast Clark County has been stopped by the director of the Bureau of Land Management.

 

Bundy is meeting this morning with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie to discuss a possible solution to his dispute with the BLM.

 

Metro Officer Jesse Roybal confirmed that Gillespie was in the Bunkerville area this morning to meet with Bundy.

 

The BLM had been using contract cowboys to round up Bundy's 900 head of cattle that have been grazing over 600,000 square acres in northeast Clark County for more than 20 years without his payment of grazing fees.

 

Neil Kornze, director of the BLM, made the following statement this morning:

 

"As we have said from the beginning of the gather to remove illegal cattle from federal land consistent with court orders, a safe and peaceful operation is our number one priority. After one week, we have made progress in enforcing two recent court orders to remove the trespass cattle from public lands that belong to all Americans.

 

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public.

 

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner.

 

Ranching has always been an important part of our nation’s heritage and continues throughout the West on public lands that belong to all Americans. This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially."

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A Lunatic's picture

Throw Harry Reid in fucking prison......

Van Halen's picture

Strange that the Feds saw fit to retreat once the truth came out of Reid's and Red China's involvement in the land grab.

Doña K's picture

Links will be appreciated

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

This is a planned retreat to get everyone to go home. Then they assault again when the media is captured by some other distraction...

BlackChicken's picture

If Harry Reid does not get forced out of office for this, then the rule of law is completely dead in this country.

The fact that this little fucker did this to a family over a china deal just proves factually that he is a crook and has NO business representing anyone for any reason.

Fuck you Harry...

max2205's picture

I thought this was about a illegal lemonade stand....gezzzz

RevRex's picture

A few hundred illegal cattle= National Emergency = SPEND MILLIONS

 

A few million illegal alien criminals = SO what?= Spend hundreds on enforcing our laws

James_Cole's picture

The fact that a U.S. Senator and the Governor are publicly coming out agains the feds is in my opinion a very big deal and may signal the beginning of a true fracturing in the social fabric. Something that I have been expecting for many year

Lol, two repubs coming out against the fed? I am completely shocked! Tis' the end of the world!!!

IridiumRebel's picture

Alright then. Hobo up and donate all your shit to the gov. Oh that's right. It's not about the big picture, it's about left/right paradigm. Fags like you are the problem. They could rape a baby and you would deflect it to periphery bullshit. I'm sure there is a bag of dicks somewhere for you to go munch on.

James_Cole's picture

Oh that's right. It's not about the big picture, it's about left/right paradigm. Fags like you are the problem. 

Yes, it's definitely about the left/right paradigm in these sorts of stories. I actually agree with the protestors in this 'standoff', but the issue is obviously ginned up into some stupid political shit a bunch of assholes can get their drooling base hopping mad about. 

Much worse injustices done on a daily basis no one talks about, but Sandoval (and the dems too I'm sure) can raise money on this so it's turned into a big political grudge match. 

Rage on Iridium..

Keyser's picture

900 head of cattle grazing on 600,000 acres and the BLM is bitching? Can you say zero impact? This is ridiculous and the Harry Reid / Chinese land grab sounds plausible, but we'll have to see how that plays out. 

Agstacker's picture

It started because this guy didn't want to pay his $1.37 per animal unit/acre welfare rancher fee.  He wanted to graze on public land for free and now he gets to.  Maybe I'll start a hunting guide business in National parks and drill for oil wherever the hell I want to as long as it's on public land.

Troll Magnet's picture

Soetero & Holder will get involved once a black thug is shot nearby...by a Hispanic Jew.

chumbawamba's picture

"However, the reason the Bundy Ranch confrontation is so interesting, is
that for whatever reason this particular incident seems to be striking a
chord of dissent."

Yeah, cuz I think a lot of people realize we are running out of steak.  Between the droughts in the west, poor allocation of crops plus crony government oversight of water useage and other regulations mean we are going to have all kinds of meat shortages in the coming couple of years.

The best investment anyone can make right now is a Black Angus calf in their backyard.

I am Chumbawamba.

Abitdodgie's picture

My jersey just calfed this morning a nice jersey highland cross , a bull .

Xibalba's picture

About the tortoise

Government plans to euthanize hundreds of desert tortoises after budget cuts to refuge

 http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/25/government-plans-to-euthanize-hund...

markmotive's picture

Americans vs. Americans. The war began when the government stopped working for the taxpayers.

Just how long did the NSA know about the 'Heartbleed' bug? And was the NSA using it to spy on citizens?

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/04/heartbleed-bug-what-nsa-knew-and-w...

jwoop66's picture

the country was founded with the knowledge that government NEVER works for the taxpayers; only for itself.

 

 

Get it? 

Squid-puppets a-go-go's picture

im too ignrnt to read links, so i will infer from the comments above that the desert turles are insidious asian communists

grunk's picture

You want my cattle?

Moolon labe.

rubiconsolutions's picture

First the government brought in the guys with guns. Now they are going to bring in the real goons, the real ruthless and soulless evildoers - government lawyers. They won't retreat, just rack up thousands of billable hours and break Bundy financially.

TeamDepends's picture

Constitutional lawyers will step in, work for free(dom), and destroy them.  This is a massive defeat for the City Of London, who owns BLM, and mainstream media.  Long live the Republic!!!!!

rubiconsolutions's picture

Yeah, that's the problem. Screw the constitution and the lawyers who defend it. 95% of the words in the damned thing are devoted to what government can do, shall do, must do. Only 5% are devoted to the rights of the individual. Long live the republic? How about long live individual rights? And where are the constitutional lawyers fighting the TSA's gate rape of tens of thousands of travelers each day? Where are the constitutional lawyers fighting immoral yet "constitutional" direct taxation?

huxleyfanboy's picture

The government "brought in guns" to protect the agents/cowboys they sent to round up the cows. Bundy (and even more so militia groups) had hinted at armed resistance so they would be irresponsible not to bring protection for the team.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/cliven-bundy-bureau-of-land-manage...

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/cliven-bundys-cattle-and-th...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/15/everything-you...

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I looked at various youtube recordings and although I see some healthy venting by local people, I still do not see signs of REAL resistance.

Where we see people setting up barricades or providing physical resistance in North Africa, the Middle East or even Ukraine, the people in Western countries are literally a different 'breed'.  The best that they can do is bring out their camera phones.  Watch the sample in the link below, and only after watching it, tell me if you noticed what I noticed immediately...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPvHV6A_84Q

And, FYI, here is the link to the Bundy Ranch: http://bundyranch.blogsopt.com/

I noticed that the person posting the YT clip, and everyone else is still playing by the old rules "Obey, obey, obey your masters".  Yes, there's a lot of rage and indignation, but NO one had the real cojones to do anything more.  I still see EVERY ONE of those indignant people "working within the system".  No camo, no gear, no militia, no warning shots into the air.

I had hoped for more and genuine 'resistance' -- as seen in other places around the world, where our Gov fully encourages and funds civil resistance -- using the "what's good for the goose..." philosophy of justice and reciprocity.  The 3rd world has "balls".  The sheeple in the West have... camera phones and blog sites as a business model.

My takeaway is that this is merely a test by TPTB.  If people can be pushed and bullied the way these people can, I would not expect a "Red Dawn" type of resistance against the "Invaders From Within" anytime soon.  I did not see any "militia" types (armed and dressed in military/militia gear and balaclavas, and former military training) posing any kind of threat or resistance. Perhaps I'm more impatient than many, but IMO I just don't see much more than the proverbial "bleating of sheep".

My prediction:  This too shall pass, Reid will not go to jail or step down, and the 'outraged few' will return to their regular lives and soon resume their "regular programming".  It'll also be really good for clicks and website stats.

sleigher's picture

I hate to say that you are probably right but you are.  There were some videos I saw where militia had their fatigues on and I know most showed up with their weapons, they just weren't carrying at the request of Bundy himself.  I believe most militia would have carried except out of respect for Bundy.

I see this another way.  10 years ago, and we know this because it happened, this rancher would have been run off his land and we would not have heard a peep.  Nor would we even be typing any of this.  Today we have people from across the country showing a sign of strength against the feds.  It may not be the firm assault some would like to see, but it is there.  I think had the BLM kept pushing and not backed down, we would have seen some of the things you were looking for.  It would have been a bloodbath of BLM agents.  I do not doubt that.  Although I believe most want a peaceful solution.  I think many are ready to fight if needed but prefer a peaceful solution.  I wouldn't dismiss them as panzies just yet.

The day is coming.  This is evidence of it.  There will be a second American Revolution/Civil war whatever.  It probably won't look like Red Dawn.  Think 4th generation warfare. 

HardAssets's picture

@Kirk - - - its not a video game. Real people bleed and die.

They did exactly what was needed and appropriate to meet their objectives, and once the Reid connection was discovered and put out there - - - it was all over for the BLM on this one.

You seem to regret that there wasn't a bloody 'show'. Many of us are very pleased that didn't happen.

In any case, with so many there, it is highly unlikely that they would have allowed the govt thugs to start brutally hurting & killing people.

 

What's wrong with some people ?

TheFutureReset's picture

If Ruby Ridge would happen today it would've had a different outcome. Case closed. There is a slow, but steady trend toward liberty. 

sleigher's picture

Agreed.  "Those" days are behind us now.  I swear each day I see more and more who are "awake".  This is all as you say, a slow trend to liberty or the what this country was meant to be.

Mad Muppet's picture

Just how long did the NSA know about the 'Heartbleed' bug? And was the NSA using it to spy on citizens?

 

 

 

My guess is that they wrote and launched it.

IndianaJohn's picture

Dairy cattle make better beef. My Brown Swiss is a yearling now.

mkkby's picture

I'll fight the gov over real tyranny, but this rancher is just another member of the free shit army crying about having to pay rent.  He should keep his cattle on HIS OWN LAND.  He wants to squat on gov land WHICH BELONGS TO ALL OF US.  It is not his, just because he lives nearby.

I'd like to graze my cattle on free land too.  So would millions of others.  That doesn't fucking work.  Buy your land and stop being a parasite.

Evil Peanut's picture

With this knowledge of Reid's son being involved, where is the American outrage over this?

Why are people not making a fuss that someone was using government office to brutalize and destroy someones life and property for their own private personal gain?

The medias non-existant coverage and lack of investigative journalism is a revolting testament to how far peoples standards of governance have fallen.

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America will never be destroyed from the outside.

If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.

-Abraham Lincoln

LetThemEatRand's picture

I'm pissed.  Does that count?  And by media not covering this, do you mean TV?  Because Drudge is all over it and he gets many millions of hits a day. Granted I'm a ZH reader, but I'm no back woods rancher or Ruby Ridge guy.  It was obvious from day one that this had nothing to do with turtles.   Watching those thug Nazi federal land management militarized fucking douchebags taze ordinary citizens made my blood boil.

kliguy38's picture

you're a radical.....sarc off

Manthong's picture

On the lighter side..

we can be rid of those nasty tan lines.....

zhandax's picture

I don't mind lines....I would rather be rid of those who draw them

TrustbutVerify's picture

Quite watching the MSM and complain to the cable provider that you subsidze them with your monthly cable fees.  

sleigher's picture

Not a fan of Hannity or anything but he has followed this pretty close and has had Bundy on a few times now.  FOX in general may be ignoring it but some inside are following.  Now, Hannity did hide some of the facts, or ignored them, but at least there was some coverage.  He completely glossed over the land/Reid issue.  Not even a mention of Reid even though it is his state.  

Zero Debt's picture

If we let the government confiscate food production resources and land, they will own the means of life which means the flow of food will be rented from globalists. They will control all the supply chains. They will absorb private competition and merge special interests into large controllable top-down structures that they can conspire with to outcompete small businesses and raise exorbiant entry barriers. You can own a cow, but if it poops, then you need to pay carbon taxes to Al Gore. If it eats grass, that represents destruction of federal property and you need to pay for the grass to grow. You can sell milk, but if you sell raw and bypass big retail and centralized processing plants you are a villain putting lives at risk and the milk must be destroyed, preferably with paint. You can sell the beef, but be sure to inject a healthy dose of growth hormone and vaccines so big pharma gets their fair share. You can even help your neighbors in need as well, as long as you do not trust them to help you in bad times, but rather trust insurance companies to pay you from their unfunded liabilities and government department to ship you necessities in a crisis. Do not rely on your own preparation, or yourself, for anything of importance, they say.

At the root of the problem is the monopoly of violence in the name of monopoly of benevolence. Why would anyone want to grant the government a monopoly on violence to exercise a monopoly of benevolence? It makes no sense.

If the government is allowed to have guns, everyone should be allowed to have guns. In fact, we are the government, hence, the government has no guns to being with, only the guns they are given by the will of the people for the specific uses granted by the people. Once they overstep their boundaries, they have lost their legitimate right to operate.

Monopolies do not work. Not in business. Not in violence. No in charity. Not in education. Not in healthcare. Not in insurance. Not in currencies. Not in food production. Not in benevolence. Not in charity. Not in spirituality. Not in technology. Not in science. Not in research. Not in genetics. Not in seeds. Not in medicine. Not in media. Nowhere.

In the context of a system with natural, de facto and fiat monopolies, private family armies that defend their natural rights against crooked politicians and their business accomplices doing billion dollar dirty deals behind closed doors makes a whole lot of sense.

Corporate armies with political thugs that defend billion dollar global business makes way less sense. Especially when they hold a banner in their left hand claiming to protect desert turtles while the right hand keeps nuking the hell out of the desert and said turtles.

huxleyfanboy's picture

"With this knowledge of Reid's son being involved, where is the American outrage over this?"

Well,  the people who actually believe that are indeed outrages.  The others either aren't paying attention, or have actually done some fact-checking.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/17/facts-disprove-conspiracy-th...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/nevada.asp

http://www.factandmyth.com/conspiracy-theory/cliven-bundys-cattle-and-th...


IndianaJohn's picture

Got a Brown Swiss yearling in my yard now.

trader1's picture

fuck red meat when you can eat hemp seeds and quinoa.

Philalethian's picture

BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT NEWS RELEASE

Release Date: 02/19/14

Secretary Jewell Announces Two Solar Projects Approved in California, Nevada

http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/newsroom/2014/February/Secretary_Jewell_Announces_Two_Solar_Projects_Approved_in_California__Nevada.htm

 

BING...BADDA...BANG!

WHOOPS....DER IT IS....CARBON TAXES AND FAKE CLIMATE ACTIONS TO PROFIT, WHO?

"As part of President Obama’s Climate Action Plan to reduce carbon pollution,"

BustainMovealota's picture

There is a solar field already near Primm, NV

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Primm,+NV+89019/@35.620836,-115.356182...!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x80cf44057dcf2991:0x12791757e28d00