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Why The Standoff At The Bundy Ranch Is A Very Big Deal

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of The Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

If you haven’t been following the unfolding drama at the Bundy Ranch about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas you need to start now. The escalating confrontation between irate local residents and federal agents of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has the potential to take a very dangerous turn for the worse at any moment, as hundreds of militia members from states across the country are expected to descend upon the area and make a stand with 67-year-old Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy.

Before I get into any sort of analysis about what this means within the bigger picture of American politics and society, we need a little background on the situation. The saga itself has been ongoing for two decades and the issue at hand is whether or not Mr. Bundy can graze his 900 head of cattle on a particular section of public lands in Clark County. Cliven Bundy has been ordered to stop on environmental grounds to protect the desert tortoise, but he has stood his ground time and time again. As a result, the feds have now entered the area and are impounding his cattle. According to CNN, Between Saturday and Wednesday, contracted wranglers impounded a total of 352 cattle. The Bundy family, as well as a variety of local residents have already had confrontations with the BLM agents. Tasers have been used and some minor injuries reported. Most significantly, militia members from across the country have already descended upon the area and it seems possible that hundreds may ultimately make it down there.

To me, the argument of who is right and who is wrong in this situation is the least interesting part of the story. I have noted time and time again that the feds are becoming increasingly out of control and belligerent to American citizens. We know the stories (think Aaron Swartz) and we know the overall trend trend. However, the reason the Bundy Ranch confrontation is so interesting, is that for whatever reason this particular incident seems to be striking a chord of dissent. It is often times the most random, unforeseen and innocuous things that spark social/political movements. This standoff has it all.

From CBS News:

LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas/AP) — Militia groups are rallying behind a rancher whose cattle are being seized by the federal government.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that two militia members from Montana and one from Utah have arrived at Cliven Bundy’s ranch.

“We need to be the barrier between the oppressed and the tyrants,” Ryan Payne of the West Mountain Rangers told the Review-Journal. “Expect to see a band of soldiers.”

 

Payne said that militias from New Hampshire, Texas and Florida are likely to join and stand with Bundy and stay at his ranch.

 

“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” Payne told the Review-Journal, adding that hundreds of militia members are expected.

 

Lawmakers are adding their voices into the fray, criticizing the federal cattle roundup fought by Cliven Bundy who claims longstanding grazing rights on remote public rangeland about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

 

Sen. Dean Heller of Nevada said he told new U.S. Bureau of Land Management chief Neil Kornze in Washington, D.C., that law-abiding Nevadans shouldn’t be penalized by an “overreaching” agency.

 

Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval pointed earlier to what he called “an atmosphere of intimidation,” resulting from the roundup and said he believed constitutional rights were being trampled.

The fact that a U.S. Senator and the Governor are publicly coming out agains the feds is in my opinion a very big deal and may signal the beginning of a true fracturing in the social fabric. Something that I have been expecting for many years.

Heller said he heard from local officials, residents and the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association and remained “extremely concerned about the size of this closure and disruptions with access to roads, water and electrical infrastructure.”

 

The federal government has shut down a scenic but windswept area about half the size of the state of Delaware to round up about 900 cattle it says are trespassing.

 

Sandoval said he was most offended that armed federal officials have tried to corral people protesting the roundup into a fenced-in “First Amendment area” south of the resort city of Mesquite.

 

The site “tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution” and should be dismantled, Sandoval said.

People being rounded up like cattle in these bullshit “First Amendment areas” is completely unacceptable.

BLM spokeswoman Kirsten Cannon and Park Service spokeswoman Christie Vanover have told reporters during daily conference calls that free-speech areas were established so agents could ensure the safety of contractors, protesters, the rancher and his supporters.

 

Meanwhile, federal officials say 277 cows have been collected. Cannon said state veterinarian and brand identification officials will determine what becomes of the impounded cattle.

The kindling for social upheaval has been growing in America for quite some time. Disrespectful and ignorant statements from billionaire oligarchs like Sam Zell only make it worse. The question in my mind has always been what will the catalyst be to spark the brushfire? Will it be the Bundy Ranch? We’ll have to wait and see.

Personally, I hope cooler heads prevail and there is no violence, because once you head down the road of violent confrontation between the people and the feds you are opening up a can of worms that will not easily be bottled up again. In such a situation, everybody loses. However, my long-term fear is that unless the government and its puppet masters on Wall Street and elsewhere in big business change course, social upheaval will prove inevitable, whether the Bundy Ranch sparks it, or some other incident down the road. These are troubled times and they are likely going to get worse before they get better.

This picture basically says it all:

Bundy ranch

Full article here.

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The latest news is a 'win' for Bundy for now...

The gathering of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle in northeast Clark County has been stopped by the director of the Bureau of Land Management.

 

Bundy is meeting this morning with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie to discuss a possible solution to his dispute with the BLM.

 

Metro Officer Jesse Roybal confirmed that Gillespie was in the Bunkerville area this morning to meet with Bundy.

 

The BLM had been using contract cowboys to round up Bundy's 900 head of cattle that have been grazing over 600,000 square acres in northeast Clark County for more than 20 years without his payment of grazing fees.

 

Neil Kornze, director of the BLM, made the following statement this morning:

 

"As we have said from the beginning of the gather to remove illegal cattle from federal land consistent with court orders, a safe and peaceful operation is our number one priority. After one week, we have made progress in enforcing two recent court orders to remove the trespass cattle from public lands that belong to all Americans.

 

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public.

 

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner.

 

Ranching has always been an important part of our nation’s heritage and continues throughout the West on public lands that belong to all Americans. This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially."

 

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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:43 | 4652061 outamyeffinway
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Once the American people wake up collectively and are pushed to violence, there will be no going back. The people in power today will be swept away like dust off the kitchen floor. There may be nothing left.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:11 | 4652141 Keyser
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What we need is for state governments to exert their sovereign domain over local matters and tell the feds for fuck off. That would be a start. 

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:38 | 4652634 Jumbotron
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What a FUCKING DUMB ASS you are Keyser.

Our FOUNDING FATHERS KILLED STATES' RIGHT WHEN THEY.....as FEDERALISTS....ratified the (second) Constitution over the Articles of Confederation.

YOU DEFEND THE VERY THING WHICH KILLED OFF WHAT YOU WANT !!!!

JEEBUS.....but you all are some DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS !!!!

No WONDER we got Barack Hussein Sotero Obama.  And NO WONDER YOU DUMB FUCKS CAN'T or WON'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT !!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!  ROTFLMFAO !!!  KARMA + IGNORANCE = AMERICA TODAY !!!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:15 | 4652753 bigkahuna
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No need for ad hominem, troll.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 04:15 | 4653375 Tall Tom
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I guess you don't realize that the Tenth Amendment which was RATIFIED was intended to protect States' Rights.

 

Perhaps it was the Founders' intent to protect States' Rights and it is now evidential that the Constitution is an imperfect document.

 

This is just demonstrative that there are NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS and the Grand Experiment of the Representative Republic has FAILED.

 

It has absolutely nothing to do with the intellect of the ZH writer but has everything to do with the corruption of those whom are empowered and the corruption of the elctorate. That includes Y...O...U.

 

Perhaps it is you that needs to take a good look into the mirror as action starts with Y...O...U.

 

My address is listed above. Take the first step. ACT. Let's go hunting.

 

(I walk a lot. I am an easy long range target.)

 

 

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 06:28 | 4653479 Jumbotron
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HAHHAHAHAHAHA !!!

THE TENTH ADMENDMENT ????

ADMENDMENTS ARE LIKE ADDING BACK ARTIFICIAL VITAMINS TO  WHITE BREAD THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY BLEACHED OUT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INDUSTRIALIAZED BREAD MAKING IN ORDER TO GIVE IT A LONGER SHELF LIFE !!!

ROTFLMFAO !!!

ONCE AGAIN......YOU ALL ARE ARE BUNCH OF DUMB MOTHER FUCKERS !!!!

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 08:07 | 4653542 sleigher
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You are right about the Constitution and the Articles of Confederation, the feds had no power under the latter so they made the Constitution.  Although, getting people to understand that by calling them stupid probably isn't gonna work very well.  just sayin...

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 08:22 | 4653557 new game
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tom tall-to hunt another human with the intent to kill is a great past time. we leave the chamber empty but everthing else is real. bang you are dead. set some ground rules and go try it...

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:00 | 4653144 jerry_theking_lawler
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Start this by repealing the 17th Amendment....States will have some of their rights back then....

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:08 | 4652308 Jumbotron
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HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

The American Sheeple WAKE UP ??!!!

You're so full of shit....all of you.  The American sheeple will NEVER wake up.  Half of the American Sheeple RIGHT THIS INSTANT are descendents of slaves or illegal immigrants.  DO YOU FUCKING, HONESTLY THINK FOR ONE SECOND THEY GIVE ONE BLOODY SHIT ABOUT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AS ENSHRINED IN THE CONSITITUTION OR GOING BACK TO OLD ENGLISH LAW ????

HAHAHAHAHAHA.......ROTFLMFAO !!!!!

You idiots are proof positive that the country is fucked beyond repair......you're so bloody ignorant of the present situation and yet you still hold on to your impotent piece of toilet paper called the Constitution.  LOL !!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:07 | 4652530 d_senti
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Boy... you are just the worst.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:33 | 4652617 Jumbotron
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d_senti....you're damn right I am the worst.  Because that's how all you see the truth.....as the worst.

Which is EXACTLY why we are in the shape we are in.....because we can't handle the truth.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:28 | 4652795 Keyser
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Fucking idiot is more like it. 

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 08:10 | 4653544 sleigher
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Well you are wrong in one respect. Just what percentage of the people were actually involved in the revolution against England?  When you know that you will see that just because half the population are dumbshits has no bearing on what an outcome will be.  I believe you are just a troll now.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:28 | 4652787 Keyser
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Our FOUNDING FATHERS KILLED STATES' RIGHT WHEN THEY.....as FEDERALISTS....ratified the (second) Constitution over the Articles of Confederation.

Really? News to me, even in this case. The local Sheriff has eminent domain as the ranking law enforcement officer in the county. He had to be told this and once he informed, he told the Feds to fuck off. If you could read and did one iota of research you would know this. 

Also, you'd best do a fact check when you attack someone. The state of Texas NEVER ceded it's territories to the Federal government. Any and all federal facilities in Texas are LEASED to the fed... The Federal gubbamint holds zero rights to ANY land in Texas. 

So fuck off an go suck eggs... I hate paid trolls because they have no skin in the game. All they do is attack the truth. 

 


Sun, 04/13/2014 - 06:32 | 4653480 Jumbotron
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I don't have skin in the game.....because I am an adult.  I don't play games....especially games invented by our Corp/Fed Fascist government who keep you enthralled by the idea of "Constitutional Rights" through mouthpieces like Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.

You and I are not in the Big Club.  And any of you waving around your Constitution as if it is some sort of "Big Club" membership card deserve everything you are getting even as I speak......and hard and often.

Bunch of silly, childish, deluded mother fuckers.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 08:13 | 4653548 sleigher
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Let me guess.  You are gonna site the Paedelford case and tell everyone they aren't even party to the constitution in the first place?

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:11 | 4653170 StychoKiller
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:01 | 4652117 El Oregonian
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Dana White president of the UFC was the main reason Harry Reid was re-elected in 2012

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:28 | 4652180 Mr Pink
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Those UFC homos can eat a bag of dicks too. I'm sure they would enjoy it

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:20 | 4652351 Uncle Remus
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Will this do?

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:10 | 4653166 Citxmech
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OMG WTF is that all about?  

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:23 | 4653184 Uncle Remus
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Art?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:52 | 4652866 jeff montanye
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what is it with the constant use of accusations of homosexuality as the crowning insult to people guilty of far far worse deeds?  i like pussy better than most but this is getting old.  up the ante.

anyhow, this is apparently how the government is trying to get the little people to hate it even harder and. possibly, assassinate some of its more accessible flunkies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-h...

this other isn't bad either:  anyhow. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1119214?ref=feeds%2Fnewsiest

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:45 | 4652228 El Oregonian
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Dana White president of the UFC was one of the main reasons Harry Reid was re-elected in 2012. I quit watching UFC, I quit supporting the UFC, and will throw Dana White under the bus every time that Jack-Mormon, corrupted POS Harry Reid is ever brought up, I'm going to throw in Dana's face, his support of this scumbag every chance I get.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:09 | 4651961 SafelyGraze
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it is precisely because of dangerous militias like these that we need to go ahead and get firearms out of the possession of ordinary citizens and veterans, ensuring that trained professionals in security and enforcement can do their jobs safely

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:48 | 4652078 macholatte
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it goes like this:

 

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:00 | 4652113 Rubbish
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Cowboy Up

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:39 | 4652214 RobD
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Prase the lord and pass the ammunition! I'm not  religious but I do love that saying for some reasson.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:41 | 4652221 RobD
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Another one of my faves:

Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:59 | 4652283 SafelyGraze
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"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

where'd you get *that* from??

our common core history class has it just the other way.

"the right of the people to a secure state being necessary not to infringe, the people will be well regulated to keep out of militia or bear arms."

yours maybe came from a deprecated history class. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:24 | 4652369 Taffy Lewis
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A quote I picked up on another blog:

“What’s happening in my country is also happening in your country…. You don’t even know it, but you’re the Indians of the 21st Century, and that’s very sad.” –

Russell Means, Indian Activist and Facilitator of the newly created Independent Republic of Lakota.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 05:12 | 4653423 macholatte
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Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle 'Dixie'?

-- Josey Wales

 

We thought about it for a long time, "Endeavor to persevere." And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.

-- Lone Watie

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 23:42 | 4653121 drendebe10
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Hey Safely, how bout passing around WTF ur smoking or drinking to share with everyone else. ..

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:11 | 4652328 Jumbotron
Sun, 04/13/2014 - 03:35 | 4653362 The Blank Stare
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Worked so well for Anakin Skywalker.

Sarc

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:12 | 4652748 Philalethian
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:39 | 4652986 Volkodav
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:41 | 4652990 Volkodav
Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:00 | 4652114 Gargoyle
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I think he just forgot the /sarc tag.  But I upped you anyway.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:48 | 4652250 nmewn
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He was just riling up the sheep...lol.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:06 | 4653155 jerry_theking_lawler
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Sorry...you are wrong in you saying...it is Arms...not arms. Look up the 1776 dictionary meaning of Arms and report back.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:03 | 4652510 HyperinflatmyNutts
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Sat, 04/12/2014 - 23:33 | 4653106 drendebe10
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"Govt is mot the solution. Govt is the problem."  Ronald Reagan

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:18 | 4651998 IridiumRebel
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Actually it's about the Constitution. People should rage on. When does it stop? When do people say enough? Do we allow them to sell the very land we have from under our feet? I will rage on. I will tell all who will listen of this injustice and I will not look at the side action.

"The first thing we need to make clear is – who owns this land? That’s really not clear. We have a federal judge that says the United States owns this land. We have the United States Constitution that says Nevada owns this land.

So this is where I’m at… Let’s talk about my grazing fee… who am I supposed to pay my grazing fee to? Constitutional sovereignty of Nevada that owns this land?

No. The one I get the grazing fee bill from is the United States government.

I don’t recognize them having any jurisdiction or authority over this land.

I do not have a contract with the United States government.

…I urge you, read the Constitution. Those founding fathers laid out how we’re supposed to act. They have all the answers already laid out for us. Why don’t we live that Constitution and be happy in America?

I know what I’m going to do. I’m going to do whatever it takes. The public and the protesters here… I think are ready to do whatever it takes, too.

In other words, this thing’s not gonna’ get over tomorrow. We’re going to fight until we win this and get our public lands back."

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/rancher-cliven-bundy-speaks-i-don...(SHTF+Plan+-+When+It+Hits+The+Fan%2C+Don't+Say+We+Didn't+Warn+You)

I'd quote a MSM site but lord knows a flight from Hu Flung Pu to Kri Mu Sum Yun Gai is still missing in the ocean.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:27 | 4652021 James_Cole
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Thats all fine and I agree with you, and incidentally nice to hear the 'right' talk about co-operative productive use of a shared asset.

Still I'd bet 100% the furthest this will go is a right/left political cannon fodder issue in the msm. 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:00 | 4652112 IridiumRebel
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I'm a socially liberal and fiscally conservative independent who votes all over the dial. Lulz to voting too.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:10 | 4652129 IridiumRebel
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I'm a socially liberal and fiscally conservative independent who votes all over the dial. Lulz to voting too.

Edit: I'm in the WV sticks on the family horse farm and when I told the folks about what was going on -too busy tending horses- they said they would go if it came down to it. This shits gone too far. Fucking Chinese solar farm.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:23 | 4652017 Anusocracy
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"Much worse injustices done on a daily basis no one talks about,"

Like $9,600,000,000 stolen from the productive people of America every day by the US gov and wasted on shit like this?

Yup, you are right.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:53 | 4652697 astroloungers
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The names of the BLM goons and the for hire round up cowpunks should be made public....isn't transparency what it's all about ?

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 10:29 | 4653853 TheFutureReset
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This had been going on for a week or so before it started getting real. In that time the MSM wouldn't touch it. Nothing on CNN (obviously Reid friendly) and Fox had one little blurb on it after a few days of silence. If it's a big partisan plot, Fox would have been all over it from the get, but instead silence. Once the militia mobilization started was when they started reporting it, because if they didn't they'd lose all cred. 

This happened outside the partisan framework and cuts directly to the terrifying heart of the 'consent of the governed' issue.

This Bundy is a stud. True bravery and heroism. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 21:15 | 4659093 beefman
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You're right sir these guys blow right pass any other story that does not fit into their stupid political agenda. These are the real SHEEP. They get all fired up about animals but when a young teen is shot dead and it is so obvious of the motivation behind it everyone sits quietly. AND YOU WONDER WHY THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU NOW??? Please don't ever be so stupid as to think you are exempt THERE IS NO GREATER FOOL

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:03 | 4652294 Bangin7GramRocks
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Who else has Weaver Fever?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:52 | 4652694 Flagit
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Hobo up and donate all your shit to the gov.

 

its the little phrases like that, that help get me through the day : )

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:33 | 4652040 countryboy42
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The fact that these two are just now (in the last couple of days) saying anything, says volumes to me. I starting hearing about this a week ago. The Fed over reached too quickly, and got caught via the internet. The only reason these two are now speaking up is because of the militias from several states have announced they are standing with Mr. Bundy. They know that the time is not quite right for the serfs to go batshit crazy.I'm still betting on 2017 for the shit to hit the fan.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:37 | 4652206 Oxbo Rene
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I say to all of you right now = There'll come a day when we'll have to fight for the internet itself.
If they can control our freely, and quickly, communicating,
they'll certainly try, and try hard.
I feel the handing over the control of the internet to "others" is a first step in that endeavour .....

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 23:50 | 4653133 drendebe10
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The atrogant narcissistic lying illegal alien kenyan muslim sociopathic ignoramus fufge packer in chief has the corrupt power to do this already.  Why do u think so many other countries are building internet excluding the USSA...

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:36 | 4653207 All Risk No Reward
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While James' statement implies immersion into the Banskter's two party perception management, divide and conquer operation, he has a point.

If those politicians had been democrat they probably would've sighned their name to the evil and smiled as the told lies to everyone.

Sheriff's need to man up...  but we know in some states those kind of sheriffs are being pushed out precisely so nobody is there to stand in the way of this admitted Bankster neofeudalist tyranny.

"In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
~Professor Carroll Quigley, Georgetown and Counsel on Foreign Relations Historian, Tragedy and Hope

"(Montegu) Norman was a strange man whose mental outlook was one of successfully suppressed hysteria or even paranoia. He had no use for governments and feared democracy. Both of these seemed to him to be threats to private banking, and thus to all that was proper and precious in human life. Strong-willed, tireless, and ruthless, he viewed his life as a kind of cloak-and-dagger struggle with the forces of ... [sound] money .... When he rebuilt the Bank of England, he constructed it as a fortress prepared to defend itself against any popular revolt, with the sacred gold reserves hidden in deep vaults below the level of underground waters which could be released to cover them by pressing a button on the governor's desk. For much of his life Norman rushed about the world by fast steamship, covering tens of thousands of miles each year, often traveling incognito, concealed by a black slouch hat and a long black cloak, under the assumed name of "Professor Skinner." His embarkations and debarkations onto and off the fastest ocean liners of the day, sometimes through the freight hatch, were about as unobserved as the somewhat similar passages of Greta Garbo in the same years, and were carried out in a similarly "sincere" effort at self-effacement."
~Professor Carroll Quigley, Georgetown and Counsel on Foreign Relations Historian, Tragedy and Hope

Whole book:
http://real-world-news.org/bk-quigley/00.html

The quotes above were from Chapter 19.

If you read the right books, you can learn a lot.  Hint - Bankster financed establishment organization will never purposefully direct you to the right books.

Another book chalk full of tyrannical plans of world domination based, at least in part, on "impaired brain function of large populations" is Zbigniew Brzezinski's Between Two Ages.  It book that I would expect a more analytical / less emotional Hitler-type to write.  George Washington would have this guy banished, but that's probably why Brzezinski calls Washington's Constitutional Republic form of government outdated.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 02:31 | 4653322 HardAssets
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@All Risk No Reward - - -  thank you for the quotes. I'll have to pull out my own copy of Tragedy and Hope and read it again. As you know, Quigley was the official historian for the pyschopath globalists. People hear comments regarding these people and think "That's crazy. Nothing but conspiracy talk !"  while not knowing that the information is out there and that these globalists Are freakin' crazy.

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:37 | 4652047 Antifaschistische
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COW AMNESTY!!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:50 | 4652083 mt paul
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more mooooooooo

less poo....

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 05:36 | 4653450 GetZeeGold
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Tax human farts not cow gas.

 

We can hold it......they don't know any better.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:04 | 4652297 ebear
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Where's the beef?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:22 | 4652933 Volkodav
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it is the same, only worse....

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:35 | 4651830 THX 1178
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The Bundys have not won. The Empire will strike back. Know that. Know that.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:57 | 4651919 giggler321
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Use the Force luke - that's with a capitial letter meaning, go for your guns because they certainly will.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:20 | 4652007 Chupacabra-322
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Please Stop referring to them as Government. Refer to them in their proper form: The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Much like the Criminal Federal Reserve uses "Federal" in their name to make it seem as there're a branch of the "Government" when they are not.

The Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC uses the name "Federal" in their name to make it seem as though they are a legitimate, functioning Government by the people & for the people when they are not.

It's a Criminal Chartered Corp. "posing" as a Government defrauding The American People functioning under UCC Commercial Code.

-Miggy

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:58 | 4652277 THX 1178
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I didn't refer to them as governmet....

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:48 | 4651889 Anusocracy
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If they really are 'public lands', and they are not, then that means proportionate ownership by all Americans.

Bundy is just expressing his proportionate ownership of 'public land'.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:58 | 4651924 James_Cole
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Bundy is just expressing his proportionate ownership of 'public land'.

Correct as usual anus! Infact, you've even inspired me. Today I shall begin my mcMansion project on the edge of the grand canyon. What a view!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:09 | 4651970 TheMeatTrapper
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You're just being an asshole now.

Using public land for crazing the nations food supply is a long held practice that benefits all. 

Building a McMansion on the edge of the Grand Canyon is not. 

Try addressing the issue rather than posting irrelevant crap that has nothing to do with the issue at hand - if you can.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:21 | 4652011 gtb
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Only now?  C'mon...he's always an asshole.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 05:38 | 4653452 GetZeeGold
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Now that you mention it......

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:15 | 4651992 Anusocracy
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Irrelevant comment.

Bundy didn't build on the land. There are cattle walking on it and grazing on it.

And pooping on it. Like you do to ZH with your comments.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:19 | 4652001 oddball
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"Look over there Orange!  An Apple!"

 

lol

 

 

 

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:52 | 4652088 CrownedCoke
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You have lost your mind batman.....

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:43 | 4652060 Agstacker
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What happens when I try to exercise my 'proportionat ownership' of a National Park by shooting a deer or elk there?  Oh, yea, I get arrested.  I need to be a welfare rancher to be able to let my cows graze for free on public land.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:37 | 4652205 Milestones
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Family has been grazing on the land since 1870--long before Nevada was a state and long before there was a BLM. But he is supposed to jump when the federales say to jump even though they have no contract--which is not theirs to do w/o the taxpayers say so. 

We the PEOPLE own that land. not some manufactured corporation, which this Federal government is. Time to call the whole thig off. 

A Constitutional convention is coming in 2016. Sharpen the knives.

Milestones

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:05 | 4652718 Flagit
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A Constitutional convention is coming in 2016.

 

and you better pray your sweet little ass off that everyone involved in that is shitting straight apple pie and baseballs, and not hummus and pita bread.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:29 | 4652955 willwork4food
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Excellent points.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 04:32 | 4653393 Disenchanted
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Yeah but just totally ignore those shitting bagels and blintz...

at your peril.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 13:36 | 4654303 mt paul
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moooooooooo

 

eat more tortoises 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:13 | 4651982 pacu44
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Treason?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:47 | 4652074 Pumpkin
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You are being way to polite for this POS! 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:04 | 4652124 TheObsoleteMan
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The "rule of law" was been dead in this country for many decades. My God man, THEY BLEW OUR PRESIDENT'S BRAIN OUT IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, and you still believe in the "rule of law"? Nothing will be done to Reid.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:42 | 4652222 TBT or not TBT
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A communist loser loner who'd done well in marksmanship in the US Marines blew away a staunchly anti-communist, tax cutting classically patriotic American president. The left went berserk over it because they thought JFK was one of theirs. He may have been on some issues, such as drug use, sexual freedom for alpha males, and such...just based on the evidence, but he was pro American. Sorry.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:25 | 4652301 TheObsoleteMan
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So you believe in Warren Commission's report, but with your own twist? HA! Oswald was not a commie/leftist at all, he was a CIA agent, who was used as a pawn. He was NOT a marksman at all, in fact, he barely passed his rifle proficentcy test {his scores were low}. But he was very intelligent. So much so, that the CIA recruited him while he was a Marine. Think about this: Who goes to Russia at the height of the cold war, returns, and is not so much as detained by the intelligence agencies at that time? His "Hands of Cuba" origization, was a CIA front, organized, funded and staffed by agents from that agency. Bush 41 knows this, as he was a top player at the time.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:35 | 4652625 TBT or not TBT
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Well, it wasn't not in the warren report.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:40 | 4652985 FeralSerf
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"Proof that Secret Service Agent William Greer fired the fatal headshot that killed President Kennedy
1. You can see it here."

http://anonymousphysicist.com/on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-murder-of-p...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:41 | 4652649 Philalethian
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"The fact that this little fucker did this to a family over a china deal just proves factually that he is a crook and has NO business representing anyone for any reason."

The BLM will not do anything to escalate the world wide attention getting thievery of this mans cattle and property rights. What does the law say, and do the state's rights supersede the Feds desire to command and control the lands? No, there will not be any more blatant criminal behavior on the part of the fed gov. What will happen is, Mr Bundy will run for sheriff after this other clown gellepsi is recalled.

As far as China thinks, this is just the tip of the iceberg. The entire country held by the govt is owed to China for the loans to fight useless endless wars based on lies for profits, and human sacrifice. This babylonian govt has indebted the lands and minerals to China for all the loans they gave the MIC/bushes/banksters/clintons/rothschilds. It was not loaned to the American people so they owe China nothing. China thinks it is coming next year to claim it all. This is just one of the deals China has with the crooks in the US govt. The communist/socialist/babylonian/fascist/zionist puppet govt has little time left to quell those mean ol seditious Americans that think they have money in the bank, or that they are free to have guns!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:17 | 4652758 moneybots
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"If Harry Reid does not get forced out of office for this, then the rule of law is completely dead in this country."

 

The rule of law is dead.  No bankers are in prison.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:02 | 4653146 drendebe10
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You aint justa sh-ttin...

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 02:45 | 4653330 4 wheel drift
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The fact that this little fucker did this to a family over a china deal just proves factually that he is a crook and has NO business representing anyone for any reason.

 

LOL !! as if we needed further proof that the ENTIRE government, federal and state needs to be dissolved and start over let alone .... the reid, pellosi, obozo, holder, and the rest of the gangsters currently in power

 

FUCK ALL OF THEM FULL TIME POLITICIANS !

 

time for revolution

 

fuck the [current] system of gangsters

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:56 | 4652103 HardAssets
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Gaius Frakkin':  "This is a planned retreat to get everyone to go home. Then they assault again when the media is captured by some other distraction..."

 

@ Gaius Frakkin' - - - nope, that would usually be the case but the Harry Reid revelations mean CHECKMATE on this one.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:43 | 4652437 Poor Grogman
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Live feed it

Spy back on them!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:20 | 4652159 Bangin7GramRocks
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Maybe Putin should train, arm and fund these militias. Sweet, delicious revenge.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:44 | 4652234 TBT or not TBT
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I'm sure the billionaire kleptocrat cares deeply.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:09 | 4652320 Bunders
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One of the cows that have been rounded up will be found to have links to Al-Qaeda.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:37 | 4652416 HardAssets
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Bunders:  "One of the cows that have been rounded up will be found to have links to Al-Qaeda."

Now would that be 'bad Al Qaeda' or 'our good Al Qaeda' fighting in Syria ?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:12 | 4652549 robobbob
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nationalist/fascist al qaeda operatives bad. globalist/socialist al qaeda operatives good.

just to help you keep score.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 13:44 | 4654321 mt paul
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Al-Cowda..

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 08:36 | 4653576 sessinpo
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Gaius Frakkin' ...         Then they assault again when the media is captured by some other distraction...

---

There hasn't been much coverage of this on the MSM. All the typical left wing media (CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC,MSNBC) aren't covering it. Even at fox news, it isn't a leading story.

What the Feds were worried about is that it would become a leading story if it turned into another Waco. Thus any future planned assault could still lead to another Waco and to much media attention.

BRAVO to the militias that supported Bundy. My fear is that attention and attacks on those militias will be the result.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:01 | 4651936 Theosebes Goodfellow
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So here is my take on why the BLM head cheese has backed down. I'm on CSPOA's email list, (Constitutional Sheriff and police Officers Association) headed by Sheriff Richard Mack. He mentioned yesterday he was headed to Bunkerville, (presumably to talk with Sheriff Gillespie).

My guess is that he told Gillespie that the power constitutionally speaking here was his as he, Gillespie, is the CLEO, ( Chief law enforcement Officer), in all of this. The county sheriff is the top dog legally speaking. A sheriff has the legal authority to stop and even expel State and Federal employees from his county. It's happened here in California recently.

So I'm guessing that Gillespie gets on the horn to the BLM jokers in DC and tells them to cease and desist pronto our he'll take the BLM cops and toss them in the hoosegow, or something to that effect.

By now the whole desert tortoise story has been debunked, (the BLM was originally saying that the reason why they were going hard after Bundy was that they were trying to save some desert tortoise, (cattle mashing tortoises with their hooves, etc.). When it came out that BLM last year closed their tortoise care facility in the area, (and apparently euthenized some tortoises), well, that story went out the window. (So much for the environmental hustle angle.)

Next they shifted their story to how he had failed to pay "grazing rights" fees. This may or may not be true, but remember this: Bundy's family has been grazing on this land, without fees, since a) before there was a BLM and b) before it was even "federal land".

Now, courtesy of Infowars, comes the story that the feds were using the Bureau of Land Management to bully and intimidate ranchers like Bundy, pushing them off public land in order to pave the way for lucrative “green energy” projects backed by the Communist Chinese government and linked to Nevada Senator Harry Reid.

Now ain't that some shit.

Read about the Chinx-Reid angle of this story here:

http://www.infowars.com/feds-back-down-from-bundy-siege-after-infowars-expose-of-chinese-land-grab/

And now, as Paul Harvey was so oft fond of saying, is the rest of the story.

I'll venture that the cat is out of the bag and this whole story is going to explode in Reid's face, not to mention Neil Kornze's, Reid's pet-boy newly-minted head of BLM. See the story on Kornze here:

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevadan-confirmed-head-blm

Of course, the whole thing stinks like yesterday's fish guts, and there is not a bat's chance in hell of Eric Holder investigating any of this shitty shenanigans. But oh how shoddy and how low some so exalted have fallen. And the man doesn't even have the decency to resign. Well Nevadans, Reid is your guy. You can always vote to recall him, but it sure makes you wonder whether the 17th amendment shouldn't be repealed to make short work of this. Do you remember when Harry Reid was a great American?

Me neither.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:55 | 4652098 DoChenRollingBearing
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Theosebes Goodfellow wrote:

"Now ain't that some shit."

+ 1000

Harry Reid and the Chinese...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:50 | 4652863 Philalethian
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"Now, courtesy of Infowars, comes the story that the feds were using the Bureau of Land Management to bully and intimidate ranchers like Bundy, pushing them off public land in order to pave the way for lucrative “green energy” projects backed by the Communist Chinese government and linked to Nevada Senator Harry Reid."

Ahhh...but there is moar.

Looks like the wally-walmart-walton people promised a huge 400,000 grant to the BLM for the solar panel company IF they got the Bundy's off the land. How much did they give reid?

(Min 8:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWGVmqx3RVo&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg

 

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:05 | 4653153 drendebe10
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Rock on, Theo! Rock on...

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 02:45 | 4653331 HardAssets
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Alex Jones kicked butt on this one. Having studied the criminals for years, he had a hunch Reid was behind it somehow. He had his team dig deeper and those guys did a great job. Found out about the Reid land deal and documents from 2 years ago saying they had to get the rancher off the land so they could hand it over to the Chinese solar company. Infowars put the story out there, Drudge picked it up - - - and the BLM went packing.

Jones and his crew played a major part in giving everyone the information ammo needed to win this and he deserves praise. Also deserving praise were the hundreds (thousands ?) who went to that area in the desert to back rancher Bundy. If the paid fed thugs had gotten violent, it would be in front of thousands of eyes - - and there likely would have been a forceful counter-reaction to protect anyone who was attacked by them.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:21 | 4651783 Save_America1st
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you can get all the info and live video reports from the scene at www.infowars.com

They've covered it from day one and have interviewed the ranchers several times.

Tons of new info there today about harry reid's treasonous involvement and his secret chinese solar deal.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:21 | 4651785 kareninca
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Linked by Drudge yesterday.  Harry Reid's son wants the land for his Chinese solar panels deal.  It was actually described on the BLM's website until a day or so ago, when suddenly it became convenient to remove it from the BLM website, but it is still possible to get the screen:  http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-...

The corruption here is mindboggling.  These solar panel projects are the prototypical way for Chinese companies to give secret bribes to politicians and their families.  Quite striking that the BLM suddenly realized that it looked/is as bad as it is, and decided to try to hide the fact after disclosing it. Yeah, right, it is all about the turtles.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:39 | 4651853 nmewn
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Harry and the chi-coms are just trying to build shade (in the form of a solar farm) for the poor creatures so they don't get sun burned ;-)

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:45 | 4652065 Calmyourself
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One of harry's prime benefactors had the tortoise land borders redrawn for his development several years back.  The corruption is mind wrenching

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:27 | 4652165 HardAssets
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@ nmewn - Don't you know - you, your home, your land, your children, grandchildren, and future great grandchildren have been pledged as collateral for the 'debt' owed the Chinese. Much of that money went to keep the yuan down so they could sell their stuff here at favorable, manipulated exchange rates. It also went into the banksters, corporate insiders, and politicians pockets in various frauds in the U.S.

Of course, your resources were used to help build China from a country that couldn't feed itself to one where many of your jobs were outsourced to.  But that side of the ledger never seems to be mentioned.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 18:46 | 4652239 nmewn
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Greetings.

"Don't you know - you, your home, your land, your children, grandchildren, and future great grandchildren have been pledged as collateral for the 'debt' owed the Chinese."

As I like to say "I didn't pledge anything." The US government did and I fully rejected ALL debts created by it long LONG ago as it cannot (or will not) live within its means.

So the debt is fraudulent as far as I'm concerned. The chi-coms shouldn't be loaning heroin to a junkie who does not have the ability to pay.

Now, as to the issue of sovereignty, the US government can say it is acting in the interests of Americans by giving "what it says is its land" to the chi-coms as a repayment of its debt. It can also say the sky is green, it just happens that saying so doesn't make it true.

Whats really gonna be fun is when a million chi-com troops show up to collect on land that was never the US governments land to begin with...lol.

Its a long swim home for the survivors ;-)

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:10 | 4652322 sleigher
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"behind every blade of grass" and it is all of our jobs to keep it that way.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:44 | 4652443 nmewn
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We will but I guess thats what pisses me off the most.

Technocrats, living & working in air conditioned comfort, issuing forth endless reams of paper, describing in great detail their countless contradictions & fallibilities to us, by their very own edicts & proclamations.

When TSHTF, those who have been sent out among us by these gross incompetents will have choices to make.

They had better choose wisely, I view them the same way I look at chi-coms...they are not us.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:49 | 4652860 g speed
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they are targets

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:44 | 4652439 HardAssets
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@ nmren - - - Greetings to you too  :)

 

I'm with you, brother. The banksters and their lawyer/liar/politicians think they can write it on a piece of paper and make it so.

Nothing but a fraud.  But more people are catching on.

Today was a good day in Nevada and for America.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:46 | 4652448 nmewn
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We'll be fine.

They are pretty much fucked ;-)

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:49 | 4652459 HardAssets
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nmewn - sorry for my poor typing skills and hitting the wrong keys for your name !

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:06 | 4652900 nmewn
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I'm not a grammar nazi, its enough to know whats in everyones heart.

nmewn is kinda of tough thing to spell out anyways ;-)

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:41 | 4652957 DoChenRollingBearing
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You probably made your name hard to spell on purpose.

 

;-)

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 09:23 | 4653693 nmewn
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;-)

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:35 | 4652976 Philalethian
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"Today was a good day in Nevada and for America."

Gentle Countrynoblemen...ding...ding...ding!!!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 22:33 | 4652965 Philalethian
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Maurice strong, the glove puppet for rockefeller and the rothschoild, has been working with the chinese since the mid-eighties to build up china as the next world power and money engine of the corrupted banksters. He is setting up America to go down to a surprise attack. They did the same to America just before WW II. Freaking cycles and still, humanity does not realize world war does not work out for the little people. It is all been reported on many years ago. Strong even resembles a face lifted hitler, but he is still hiding from world authorities in china somewhere enjoying the protection of that govt he is also working to eventually destabilize and take down, so cannot be questioned. If that guy could talk, he would be found to be among the mastermind puppets that have brought the world to the place we find it in today. The only problem these guys have is, EVERYBODY KNOWS and after today's events, the hundred-thousand monkeys have seen the light. Y'all know what happens after that.

UNLEASH THE BONDS OF FEAR.

BABYLON IS DEAD!!!!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:26 | 4651796 PacOps
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_governmen...

Many Americans have been watching with great consternation the ongoing struggle between the Federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the U.S. Marshals against Cliven Bundy and his family.  There are no signs of either side relinquishing its position.  Many onlookers have been informed that this dispute is over protecting the desert tortoise.  But it is nothing of the sort.  In fact, the reality of the dispute goes far underneath what is being talked about.  The more appropriate source of the dispute is ground water as well as surface water  this is a war over water.

...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:43 | 4651872 beefman
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There will be no links. Drama queens have awaken.

 

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:42 | 4652056 FutureShock
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Message from Cliven Bundy's daughter.... the Real Story

Posted by Darla Dawald on April 11, 2014 at 9:59pm in Patriot Action Alerts 

View Discussions 

 

From Cliven Bundy's Daughter, This is the explanation of what is and has occurred! 

Hi, I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. 

 

My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. 

 

These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. 

 

My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.

 

So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortoise. 

 

Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. 

 

Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next. Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. 

 

Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"

 

Shiree Bundy Cox

 

PS We Need you to show up tomorrow April 12th. We need lots - tons of people now.

 

Date: April 12, 2014

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:02 | 4652288 jbvtme
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this post belongs at the top of the page

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 00:19 | 4653178 Rusty Shorts
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Boeing 777 missing

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:21 | 4652580 robobbob
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hat tip to FutureShock:

Message from Cliven Bundy's daughter.... the Real Story

Posted by Darla Dawald on April 11, 2014 at 9:59pm in Patriot Action Alerts 

From Cliven Bundy's Daughter, This is the explanation of what is and has occurred! 

Hi, I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. 

 My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. 

 These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. 

 My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down.

 So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortoise. 

 Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. 

 Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next. Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. 

 Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"

Shiree Bundy CoxPS We Need you to show up tomorrow April 12th. We need lots - tons of people now. Date: April 12, 2014

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:04 | 4652733 Chuck Walla
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If you like your cow, you can keep your cow!

FORWARD SOVIET!

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:17 | 4651746 Deathrips
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Watch for an escalation. Socialists hate it when other people assert their free will.

Cant have the individual people learning that they are the boss.

 

Hairy Rod is a Dickhead.

 

RIPS

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:17 | 4651765 McMolotov
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Government thugs + overreach = blowback.

It's a pretty simple equation that's proven to be true throughout history.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:30 | 4651813 sushi
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Stop trying to discuss the Ukrainian situation within this US context.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:40 | 4651857 IridiumRebel
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No shit. Change a few geographical elements within the articles and you could copy and paste the rhetoric. .Gov is getting its ass handed to them on many different fronts. Queu up Syria.

Sun, 04/13/2014 - 11:08 | 4652513 Deathrips
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People think theres a difference between the Ukraine, US...or really anywhere.

Statists are on it all..shitbirds.

 

RIPS

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:20 | 4651778 A Lunatic
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And if it were not for alternative media sources NONE of this would have come to light until it was too late to make a proper show of support for this family. I'm sure the Feds will not make the same mistakes in the future......

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:33 | 4651815 tickhound
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I gotta call bullshit...

Or I should suppose zh ain't "alternative" media anymore as this (other than a guest post) is our first mention...

"If you haven’t been following the unfolding drama at the Bundy Ranch about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas you need to start now.."

The current mainstream zh trend suggests should shit hit the fan tyler may bail...

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:41 | 4651861 A Lunatic
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I did not say ZH was the media source, dipshit. Most MSM sources ignored this story and only aired it after it gained so much attention that they were obligated to mention it in passing.......

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:42 | 4651869 tickhound
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I didn't warrant a "dipshit" you flashy fuck looking for greenie ratings. Shut the fuck up and take a critique.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:47 | 4651885 A Lunatic
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Sorry, but only a dipshit would critique facts.......

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:54 | 4651895 tickhound
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You're reaching now. Nice effort tho u sensitive pussy.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:59 | 4651928 A Lunatic
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Thanks for the laugh......

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 17:03 | 4651942 tickhound
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No prob I feel you... Inappropriate laughter is often viewed as a form of emotional dysregulation.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 19:12 | 4652333 Uchtdorf
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As a disinterested 3rd party, and a generally nice guy, I officially declare you the loser of that little tango here on Fight Club. We do have lovely parting gifts for you though.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 20:35 | 4652626 DirkDiggler11
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May I suggest a year's supply of "Minute-Man" Rice as a parting gift ?

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 21:38 | 4652815 tickhound
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Of course you do... Cuz you're a suck up looking for validation like the majority of the girls in here.

Sat, 04/12/2014 - 16:49 | 4651880 Harbanger
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Hannity had Bundy on Fox on April 9th.  Leftist Media Matters blog went bezerk over it and said he was flaming the fires.  As a matter of fact he was scheduled to go down and interview the protestors a few days later.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/10/right-wing-media-are-throwing-ga...

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