Guest Post: If It's Such A Privelege, Why Do They Have To Stick A Gun In Your Face?

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

Two. Billion. Hours.

That’s how much time people in the Land of the Free waste each year preparing and filing their tax forms to the IRS– roughly 13 hours for each of the ~150 million individual returns filed.

And if you’re doing your own taxes this weekend, it may certainly seem like you’ve spent that 2 billion hours yourself just preparing your 1040.

To put this number in perspective, two billion hours is roughly the time it would take to walk to Uranus and back… which is a bit ironic given where you’d probably like to tell Mr. Obama to go stick his tax forms right about now.

Now, I’m not going to tell you today that taxes are illegal. Nor will I tell you that you don’t have to file.

I think taxes are morally reprehensible. Taxes rob an entire population of its financial resources in favor of a tiny political elite that has a long-term track record of incompetence and deceit.

Unfortunately, though, this humiliating exercise is forcibly perpetrated at gunpoint. So not filing your taxes can lead to very bad consequences. Just ask Richard Hatch.

As you may recall, Richard was the very first winner of the reality show Survivor.

What you probably don’t know is that Richard spent several years in prison on charges of “attempted tax evasion.”

I was astounded when he told me that ATTEMPTED tax evasion is a crime in the Land of the Free. It sounds more like Thoughtcrime.

People are brainwashed into believing that taxes are a ‘privilege’, and the “price we pay for civilized society.”

But if the society is so civilized, and it’s such a privilege, then why do they have to threaten people at the point of a gun?

It’s because the value proposition is completely upside down. Whether in the US, France, England, Spain, or Italy, people pay out the nose for taxes… and get very little in return.

It’s like forking over fifty bucks for a Big Mac– it doesn’t make any sense. There has to be a balance between how much you pay and the value that you receive.

And everywhere you look these days, that value is in serious decline.

Increasing chunks of governments’ budgets are going just to pay interest on the debt… not to mention absurd domestic spying programs, or destructive wars to go (as George Carlin joked) “drop bombs on brown people” in foreign lands.

Think about it as you write that check to the government– are you getting any value?

A few hundred years ago, the Founding Fathers certainly didn’t think so. As Samuel Adams summed up in 1764, taxes made the colonists “tributary slaves” to the British government.

And the taxes that they were paying were almost nothing compared to what people pay today. They would be astounded to find citizens in “free societies” paying 40%, 50% of their -income-, plus property, estates, sales purchases, imports, etc. to a massively bloated government.

Let’s go back in time together and explore this further in this week’s Podcast Episode: Taxation without Consideration.

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Xibalba's picture

Again, if the US can print it's own currency, buy it's debt with it, and pay zero interest, why does it need to collect taxes? 

Skateboarder's picture

So that you "shut the fuck up and stay down, bitch."

Thomas's picture

My brother is a tax accountant. He has a particularly dark view of the IRS agents (thugish punks who pick on little guys because they are easy victims.) When he tried to tell the IRS agent that the guy they were bullying "would be able to pay the penalties in his lifetime" the IRS agent responded, "He's young." A bullet in the head would seem appropriate. 

quintago's picture

Are you dense? The money being printed on it carries an interest rate. Taxes pay that interest. They can print into infinity, and we endorse the activity it by paying our taxes.

Manthong's picture

But few folks have even a clue when and how the 2nd big scam happened (after the 1913 travesty).

“ FDR's solution was to convert the income tax from a class tax to a mass tax. Before World War II, fewer than 5 percent of Americans paid income taxes. "Too many people," Roosevelt lamented, "are earning money and not contributing to the government." 

The “progressives” and bankers had to subdue the American people before they could subdue the rest of the world.. both militarily and financially.

BTW.. they are having fabulous success mopping up now by destroying the few remnants of morality and ethics left in the culture.

We are not exceptional..  anymore.

Money in a wage slave society = freedom     How much freedom do you have left?


Manthong's picture

oh, and the other genius part of the scam was the institution in 1943, of the evil of imposing the burden of "withholding" taxes on employers and (happy) bankers, not to mention fooling the populace because they did not understand that the "pay-as-you-go" tax was outright theft.  

Crawdaddy's picture

The withholding tax, hand crafted by a high priest of the churchstate - Milton Friedman.

Anusocracy's picture

The dupes of the world wear their servitude well.

They should be proud.

Neo's picture

Withholding is voluntary (taxes labeled FICA & Medicare ) are not.


Check the box "EXEMPT", and read the law:  start here: 26 U.S. Code § 3401



Manthong's picture

oh, cool.. maybe a sanctioned revolt is in order.

TrollHurter's picture

The problem is, if you are one of the few with the nerve to do that, they will desrtoy your life and take your money.

krispkritter's picture

I guess they aren't happy losing taxes to dead people either:

Fucking parasites, literally.

Kobe Beef's picture

Generational Debt Slavery is a touchstone of the Feudal System.


teslaberry's picture

while FDR was a consummate insider, if you go back and look at the history of the changes in the tax brackets 




the federal reserve is itself the creator of income tax policy that was created to milk the public at large. this obviously could not be achieved openly so the great lie of the 'progressive tax' was created to rationalize the legalization of the income tax. 


there is nothing 'wrong' with actuall progressive taxation. in reality progressive taxation is accomplished through property taxes, as wealth  istribution is mostly defined through property and capital and NOT INCOME so much. 

THUS the meme of 'progressive taxation' was created in order to destroy progressive taxation by pairing the meme of 'progressive taxation' with 'income taxation' and programming the public to think about 'progressive income' as the method of 'inequality' . 

it is not. the inequality of society is 95% + the inequality of property ownership. and this inequality of property ownership is INCREASED by the REGRESSIVE EFFECTS OF THE REAL WORLD APPLICATION OF  'PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX'  to effectuate a high level of taxation amongst the poor and middle classes and upper classes to create and OLIGARCH CLASS THAT FEEDS OFF OF GOVERNMENT PROTECTED PRIVATE RAQUETS, AS WELL AS GOVERNMENT WATERFALL OF CONTRACTING CASH. 



a few years after it was put into law, almost immidiately , the government started ratcheting up income tax rates on working poor from almost nothing to 6% and it kept going up from there through wartime. 

the history of the emergency world war 2 withholdings tax, the payroll taxes for social security, and the history of the "standard deduction" are all part of the history of ratcheting up taxes on working poor , peasants, and anyone who reports income who works for it ins't obscenely wealthy. 


if you raised the standard deduction to 50 grand per income earner.    this would go along way to relieving the middle class or what's left of it. payroll taxes should be considered sufficient 'INCOME" tax for people who work and aren't particularly high income earners. 

also a 50k standard deduction is a SIMPLE CHANGE TO THE TAX CODE. NO COMPLEXITIES TO GO WITH IT. not much 'other' things would have to be changed. 

you don't need to use boogie word policies such as 'flat tax' or 'tax reform' or other nonsense bullshit that will wind up either being a political non-starter or the converse---a baffle them with bullshit policy that gets voted into law for the explicit purpose of blocking meaningful change or worse, accomplishing a regressve result by way of masking it over with complexity ; for example the pro-corporate revenue stream produced by 'obamacare'. 


juggalo1's picture

Geez.  It seems like half I hear whining that too few people are paying taxes (too progressive), and now I'm hearing that it is too many.

Manthong's picture

hmm..  1) all tax is confiscation / theft.. 

2) when the whining stops, be very afraid. 

Manthong's picture

“the federal income tax was voted in by the complete lie that it would be for the wealthy only”

Absolute fact.. and the key word is LIE.

Most recent example: Obamacare..

Um..  Medicare originally was a $500 MILLION (not billion program).

Um.. Social Security “Lock Box”

Um.. Medicaid.. Redistribution at its finest

Um.. I was pretty young when the Omnibus screw Reagan/Tip fat-slobbery demorat-white-hair/guy  O’Niel  bill was passed and did a job on the’ merican people.. but I knew that it could not possibly be good.—I hardly made anything then, but I saw my pay go down.

Well, I just hope those of you under 55 will enjoy the indenture.

Your parents and grandparents did it to you..

Unless you renounce the debt with absolute conviction

A bond is just a promise and sincerity is a matter of conviction.

rubiconsolutions's picture



Taxes are the price we pay for civilization” - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

“Rape is the price women pay to avoid being murdered” - rubiconsolutions

Manthong's picture

I'm trying to think about something witty to say about violent homosexual gang rape but my posterior is too sore and I am broke now.

Manthong's picture

um.. maybe that comment poked through several viscous levels I am not familiar with.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Xibalba is a Muppet - thanks for directing him to the de-Muppetization shower to was off that ignorance.

Xibalba, THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PRINT MONEY and it doesn't matter how many bubble heads on BanskterVision repeat this lie.


Read that as many times as you need to in order to comprehend it.



All those contradictions we see in society simply melt away into and comprehension washes over our minds....  like we put on They Live glasses.

The private supra-national banking cartel, along with their coterie of political operatives who do what they are told or bad things happen, ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE NATION STATE AND PROP THEMSELVES UP AS THE WORLD CONTROLLERS...  THEY'VE SAID SO IN A MYRIAD OF DIFFERENT PLACES BUT PEOPLE CAN'T BOTHER READING ANYTHING BUT TRASHY NOVELS.

"...the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations.""
~Carroll Quigley, CFR Historian, Tragedy and Hope

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
? David Rockefeller

He's not doing that so you can rule over him, he's doing it so he can rule over you.  The following quote was sourced from a Bilderberg Meeting, where everyone is told to not reveal this sort of thing, but it has the ring of truth, IMHO...

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”
? David Rockefeller

Everything in that statement is true and consistent with what Rockefeller Robber Baron interests have been manifesting for over a century.

“The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”
? Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Got that - A DOMINATING ELITE.  That was the plan AND IT NOW MANIFESTED.  Corzine is above the law and unrestrained by any traditional values.  JP Morgan bribing Jefferson County to increase their sewer costs 10-fold...  only the county officials went to jail ("government went to jail, not their supra-national banking cartel masters) and Morgan kept the 10-fold bribery induced proceeds!

The government protects the Big Fish money launderers from being prosecuted, from having their $100s in billions in drug money laundering taxed (Capone was an outsider - competition - so he had to be taken out), from having their $100s of billions in drug money confiscated...  You can get the idea...

You think this government works to protect itself above the Money Power who selects, finances and promotes their operatives into public office?

You are wrong, homie, and you need to elevate your critical thinking skills because the lack thereof is the reason these criminals get away with their crimes.

Xibalba's picture

Yo Dipshit!  I didn't say they printed 'money' I said they print the fucking notes.  And as far as the interest is concerned, who does the fed remit the interest to?  Dumb fucks.  Glad to see you can cut and paste, but I ain't your homie, bitch.

acetinker's picture

Xi, ARNR is no dipshit.  Beyond that, I surmise that the "interest" is remitted to the Treasury, which in itself is a subsidiary of US Corp, which in turn, is a subsidiary of The Crown.

Xibalba's picture

doesn't know the difference between currency and money... calls folks muppets for kicks?  sounds like a dipshit to me.    

acetinker's picture

OK, you're a goldbug, and that's cool.  I hold a li'l silver myself- I think it has better upside potential.

In this context, your insistance on arguing the money-vs-currency thing actually does make you a muppet.

You might wanna think a bit on what constitutes value to your fellow human inhabitants of this li'l blue ball.

It ain't gold.  Only oligarchs think that way.

Manthong's picture

crud.. a clue.. 

silver (easier to trade)  and other hard assets will retain value as the SHTF ..

AND IT WILL HAPPEN .. but consider this..  two silver dimes will still trade for a gallon of gas as they did in 1960.

and.. gold is still the "money" of kings..  smaller, heavier, and easier to transport unless the TSA/STATE is in the way.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Actually, you were way too general and nobody could possibly know what you what you based on what you said - and what you said is all that the reader has to go on.

So I did.  If you want to be understood in detail, communicate in detail.

So what if the Fed remits remits the interest it earns to the government - that's trivial to the overall big picture...  and yet you use the trivial as though it is some kind of big boy intellectual point.

That's a straw man argument as it only deals with a fraction of the problem that exposes the nonsense of your original argument (that the government borrowing money doesn't matter because it can print more money.

How much interest did the US government pay and how much interest did the Fed remit in 2013?  Were they equal?  No?  Right.  Not even close.

What happens when the Banksters call in all $4.5 trillion?  You have that in your couch, right?  What happens when all that worthless debt is finally recognized...  paid out to JP Morgan for 100 cents on the dollar?

You assertion that the debt system imposed by these criminals doesn't matter is a total fool's errand.  It's like some guy on Tatooine looking up and noting how the Death Star looked so pretty in the night sky.

The Debt Star is far more effective than the Death Star because the planet is not destroyed, rather, almost all it resources are transferred to the uzBanksterstan Empire - and empire which you apparently don't even know exists.

Let me guess, you think the government is sovereign and the most powerful force in society and they let a private cartel control the money, right?

I have news for you - the most powerful entity in a society controls the money...  BY DEFINITION.  Hint - it ain't government...  they lied to you in school...  the school curriculum was created by the same Robber Baron class...  John Taylor Gatto is your go to resource for that particular Bankster induced Rabbit Hole.

Ruminate on that claim and you'll eventually figure it out.

The main takeaway is that the debt money system matters (it is the most effective military weapon ever devised on Earth - it kills more people in a month than died in Hiroshima or Nagasaki) and the symptoms it imposes on governments are not trivial or laughing matters.

Debt will destroy all that was good about America...  if you are paying attention, you'll know that it is all pretty much gone now, it is just a matter of time between planning the stomping on the faces of Americans and actually executing it.

Manthong's picture

really good rant.. thanks for the effort.

kchrisc's picture

Why waste a bullet when a guillotine is reusable. Or "renewable" in the criminals' vernacular.

Save society and "the planet" too, guillotine pols, crats and banksters.

nevadan's picture

two billion hours is roughly the time it would take to walk to Uranus and back… which is a bit ironic given where you’d probably like to tell Mr. Obama to go stick his tax forms right about now.


crazzziecanuck's picture

The problem isn't really taxes.  Most people understand that their lifestyles are dependent on government services, and certain services are necessary.  The problem is how wasteful spending is.  Paying for police and fire services everyone can get behind.  Road repair is another.  For example, why on earth is the US Congress funnelling $1 billion to provoke Ukraine into civil war these last 20 years?  Or starting multi-trillion dollar wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?  And then we're told we have to cut food stamps (take food out of the mouths of the poor) and give it to the very same people that are creating massive poverty in the first place.  SETI was looking for intelligent life in the universe.  It would have been more productive to turn the telescopes around to find intelligent life on this planet.

Honestly, I can see why people feel the moral right to "cheat" and "lie" on their taxes given how badly those that collect taxes lie and cheat themselves.

Anusocracy's picture

What services do I need to get from .gov that I couldn't get from the market?

Joenobody12's picture

How about shitty post office service that loses money year after year while Fed Express and the like make money hand over fist. 

All Risk No Reward's picture

Oh, you think taxes go to pay for government services?  -lol-  That's funny.

What, exactly, do you think federal tax money pays for other than to leverage, for a few pennies on the dollar, the agenda of the supra-national banking cartel that finances the federal government and its politicians?

School is paid for by county property tax...  but the Banskter/Feds come in and make sure the Robber Baron curriculum is forced down our children's throats in order to maximize the profits, criminal and otherwise, of their economic interests at the expense of everyone else.  I could go on and on and on.  Oh, I enjoy paying for the FEds to protect John Corzine for prosecution for stealing $1.5 billion in brokerage accounts and handing them over to JP Morgan.  You have to love paying taxes to JP Morgan criminals who bribed Jefferson County officials to jack their $100 million sewer bill to $1,000 million didn't get prosecuted, right?  Oh, and they had to make sure they kept the $1 billion and jacked the taxes of the citizens, too.

How about that Syrian false flag that required imminent intenational war crimes or Assad would show up under your children's beds at night and stab them?  Remember that fiasco?  Oh, and how else would al Qaeda get funded to cut the limbs off of little Christian girls?

Or who would fund rebels in the Ukraine to overthrow a democratically elected government after the country told the EU to shove their debt based Euro con game where the sun don't shine?

Who would protect Wachovia so they could launder $100s of billions in drug money, avoid prosecution and keep the laundered money tax free?  You are paying attention TO REALITY, RIGHT?

Oh, and where would the government get the money to arm the Sinaloa drug cartel with guns AND GRENADE LAUNCHERS!, the very same cartel that was laundering its drug money through Wachovia?

Don't you just want some more of that action?

BTW, local and state taxes pay for almost everything you see... including interest to the criminal Debt Money Pushers.  Once rate go through the roof and shut the economy down...  we are in big trouble and all that has to happen is the head honcho Bankster has to tell his crew to call in the debts and we are finished.

Save_America1st's picture


What Americans need to understand is that the taxes don't go towards the debt.  They are sucked out of us and given to the foreign banksters who are the private owners of the Federal Reserve central bank.  The IRS is just the police force the Fed Reserve is allowed to use with illegal authority to steal from us and give it to their offshore foreign overlords.

It's nothing but a gigantic screwjob.  Then they print Trillions of dollars and shackle the debt onto our backs without our consent as if they did us a favor some how which forces us to work more and be taxed more in the false assumption that the taxes they extract out of us go towards payment of that debt when it's really going offshore to the .0001% who live like gods off our hard work!

This isn't a Right/Left paradigm thing...both sides are complicite in this whole fucking game.  And once they've finally broken us and extracted everything from us they'll steal the land, sell the resources to China and others, plunge us into a 3rd world economy, and enslave us under their tyranny.

Unless we rise up and kill them all...cuz that's the only way to rid the world of sociopaths and psychopaths who want to be dictatorial tyrants over free people.

Brutlstrudl's picture

The Federal Reserve prints the money and loans it to the treasury. As the Treasury doesn't have any money of its own, it repays the loan plus interest through the Federal Income tax. Sounds stupid but the Federal Reserve and it's secret stockholders make Zillions

Manthong's picture

on the right track, but.. the Fed doesn't print squat..

It creates trillions of banker scam digital fiat out of nothing and the bankers have fooled the populace into thinking they are indebted.

There is a solution..  but it would take wisdom, courage and unity.

Manthong's picture

One question..

Q1. Where does the Fed, or the ECB, BOJ, BOE, BIS, IMF WB et al get their "money"...


..except for a few ounces of gold that they refuse to account for.

All Risk No Reward's picture

Consider a $100k home on a standard 30 year mortgage with a 5% interest rate (well below the long term average).  The land costs maybe $40-50k.  The material providers might make $20k for doing the work of providing the materials.  The contractor and laborers might make the rest.

The Banksters, who merely conjure up debt money out of absolutely nothing like they were a Machiavellian possessed Alladin with near unlimited wishes (the only constraint being eventual exponential growth collapse), will earn over $93,000.

To be fair, there is some time value involved here so, depending on how the Banksters generate or restrict money supply, the $93k would be worth less.

The point is these rentier crooks make more than anyone else (interest is front loaded so they make most of the $93k money up front, not on the back end) AND THEY DO NOTHING PRODUCTIVE!

BTW, interest is not deductible so that you can save money...  it is deductible because that lowers the expense of interest AND MAXIMIZE THE PROFITS FOR THE BANKS.

How to be a Crook

Poverty: Debt is not a Choice

Physical peasants and surfs where forced to rent the land from their physical superiors.

Cognitive peasants and surfs are forced to rent their money supply (the means to buy the land) from their cognitive superiors.

fishmonger's picture

Just when I think I got a handle on what's going on behind the curtain, I find that my eyes are wide shut. Props to ARNR and Manthong for their comments. I'm looking forward to reading more from y'all.

navy62802's picture

Answer - To engender a sense of subjugation among its citizens. It is a form of arbitrary control.

Silver Bug's picture

The US relies on its ability to print money to infinity and then back that phony money up with pure brute force. The day is coming when this illusion will end.

CH1's picture

Taxation is robberty. Period.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I'd argue that "Taxation without due representation and due consent" is robbery.

IOW:  Most forms of 'taxation' are robbery.

ps. I didn't junk you.  Am not that petty and agree with many of your posts.

Greenskeeper_Carl's picture

And the worst of these taxes is deficit spending. My generation, and my sons generation did not vote for any of the big-oldfart entitlement programs, but are forced to pay into them even if we don't want to. We are running up debts that unborn generations in the future are expected to pay for. Most Americans wouldn't take out a credit card in their newborns name and run up 100k in debt on it, then hand them the bill when they turn 18, yet that's exactly what we as a society do. If that isn't taxation without representation I don't know what is. Revolutions have been started for that. Fortunately for them, each generation is more stupid than the last, as long as they keep turning out the igadgets, no problems

narnia's picture

Involuntary extraction proves a lack of consent.

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

"I'd argue that "Taxation without due representation and due consent" is robbery.

You are on the right track, but your thought process is incomplete.

Income taxes, WITH OR WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, is equivalent to involuntary servitude. Once your income is taxed, you are no longer working for yourself, you are working for the government. And that work is involuntary. And just because the majority of voting idiots decided to take that money from you, doesn't make it any less than involuntary. It just makes you a slave to the mob.

If the constitution meant anything, and the Supreme Court wasn't a bunch of hacks, the Income tax and the 16th Amendment would be disempowered due to being in conflict with the 13th Amendment.

Ignatius's picture

In 1939 only some 7% paid income tax.  With WWII and the vast expansion of the military-security complex we've gotten to where we are today.

Enjoying that empire?