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East Ukraine Braces For Military Operation As Ultimatum Passes: Full Ukraine Event Recap

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As was expected, so called Russian separatists completely ignored Ukraine's 0600 GMT ultimatum to hand over their weapons and give up, which means Ukraine now is in the clear, according to its leaders, to engage in the previously warned military "anti-terrorist" operation. As a result, as Reuters updates,  "towns in eastern Ukraine on Monday braced for military action. As the 9 a.m. (07.00 a.m. BST) deadline issued by authorities in Kiev expired, a Reuters reporter in the flashpoint city of Slaviansk, where armed men had seized two government buildings, said there was no outward sign the rebels were complying with the ultimatum." Subsequent reports indicated that since the deadline passed, at least 4 people have been killed however since virtually no "factual" propaganda news out of Ukraine is to be believed, we would heavily discount this update.

More from Reuters:

In Slaviansk as of 9 a.m. local time on Monday, a Russian flag still flew over police headquarters, one of two buildings taken over by the separatists, while masked men continued to man barricades of sandbags in front of it.

 

Even as the deadline passed, a truck appeared bringing more tyres to heap on top of the barricades to reinforce them.

 

There was tension in the air as people tried to go about their normal business, though school and colleges have been closed and parents advised to keep their children indoors.

 

Alexei Myzenko, a 38-year-old bank teller, was at work as usual, but he said he and his wife had told their son, who is at university in the eastern town of Kharkiv, not to attend lectures on Monday.

 

"We didn't want anything to happen to him," said Myzenko. "Of course, some people are afraid. But they are still lining up to get their pensions," he said.

 

Myzenko said his wife, who is a teacher, had been called by the town administration to tell her that school was cancelled until further notice.

Presenting "military forward guidance"

Iryna Zemlyanskaya, 62, who works as a pharmacist, said: "I am going to work. They've promised to use force so many times and have not done a single thing. No-one's even afraid anymore."

Below is the complete recap of overnight events courtesy of RanSquawk:

  • Interim President Turchinov had set a deadline of 0600 GMT for the rebels to lay down their arms or face full anti-terrorist operations, however this deadline was not met. Since then 4 people have been killed in the clashes in Slovyansk.
  • Ukraine President Turchinov says Kiev leadership 'not against' referendum being held in Eastern Ukraine at the same time as Presidential election.
  • At least 100 Pro-Russian separatists attack police headquarters in east Ukraine city of Horlivka.
  • Following the news of increasing tensions coming from Ukraine, Germany has halted arms export licenses to Russia, according to Ministry.
  • EU is looking at stage 3 sanctions for Russia which could include economic and financial measures, according to Irish Deputy Premier Gilmore.
  • Polish Foreign Minister says the situation in Ukraine could be used as pretext for armed Russian intervention.
  • UK Foreign Secretary Hague says there can be no doubt that events in Eastern Ukraine have been instigated by Russia, that Russian denials of involvement do not have a shred of creditability and that further sanctions have to be the response to Russia's behaviour in East Ukraine.
  • Donetsk's branch of the Party of Regions will have an urgent convention in Donetsk on April 16.
  • Former Prime Minister and Batkivshchyna party leader Yulia Tymoshenko called Ukrainians for general mobilization. She also backed the government's decision to use military force against separatists in the east.
  • Pro-Russian rioters have stormed the police station in the city of Horlivka, a city of 290,000 people in Donetsk oblast. Before seizing the building, protesters threw rocks at windows and set small fires on the ground floor, which police officers promptly extinguished. Police initially lobbed stun grenades to repel the attacking protesters.

Should Ukraine once again escalate and launch the trumpeted military operation, watch for a prompt and significant Russian response.

 

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Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:47 | 4656233 Arius
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time to issue a New Ultimatum ... the last one!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:59 | 4656234 Haus-Targaryen
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<-- We do lots and lots and lots of talking. Obama draws a red line or four.  Putin makes Obama look like moron.
<-- We print out way out of it. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:02 | 4656253 Tortfeasor
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The protestors better hope there's no desert tortoises in East Ukraine. God help them if there are.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:04 | 4656258 Haus-Targaryen
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This is hilarious.  I cannot think of anything witty to write in reply.  Well done. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:22 | 4656285 ApollyonDestroy
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Yeah really. Kiev is clearly being run by a bunch of sissy fags

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:35 | 4656311 Oh regional Indian
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I think all this arm waving and flag waving and dead lining is purely for public consumption.

It's all energy flow calculations on a massive simulation. If a war is needed, it will be triggered due to some freaky econometric calculations.

If the price of oil is to be raised or gold hammered, it all happens based on said econometric models. The WORLD has been modelled, ceaselessly since 1971 (Club of Rome, Shell Method + electro-pneumatic parallels for modelling)...the sumulation, as I understood is brillinat and that is why they need us to produce, consume and act predictably.

A homogenous world is much easier to control.

The age of machines. War is just a function...a destructive function.

ori

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/the-age-of-machines/

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:42 | 4656342 Pegasus Muse
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Totally OT but this BLM Selling Out America-Fabian Calvo interview up on USAWatchDog.com covers a number of interesting topics, including speculation on what's behind the rash of recent banksters 'suicides'. 

http://usawatchdog.com/blm-selling-out-america-fabian-calvo/ 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:55 | 4656390 Tengri Temujin
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The mercenaries just aren't jumping at these gigs like they used to, knowing they got Russian special forces to deal with and not some skinny Somali guys with Aks

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4656514 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Mercenaries need to eat. Who said they were going to be on the Ukraine side anyways?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:48 | 4656545 Chupacabra-322
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Speaking of:

I have ID'd the merc at the cattle guard under the overpass talking to the two bundy's as a Green Beret SFO. The BLM embedded mercs with them and that merc is shown here at Camp Harriman Afghanistan. Same guy. @ 3:42 first appearance.

http://www.infowars.com/blm-flip-flops-no-deal-on-dropping-actions-again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:23 | 4656658 Tengri Temujin
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Ultimatum Shmultimatum

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:31 | 4656977 StupidEarthlings
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+100

So another "red line" came and went unnoticed. ..  it's becoming quite mi d numbing. . Almost as if its planned this way...hmm..

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:46 | 4656758 Flagit
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link does not work

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 12:27 | 4657237 Chupacabra-322
Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:49 | 4656774 NO SOLICITING
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I guess ski-masks are standard issue?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:07 | 4656261 negative rates
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Yea, lets play animal house.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:33 | 4656312 Truthseeker2
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All Hell Breaks Loose In 2014

.

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=4764

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4656515 acetinker
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Thanks for the link, Ts2!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 20:18 | 4658913 acetinker
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Hunh, zero respect for the heavens here. Best we move along, I guess.  Most of the hedgers seem actually to be hedgers.  Imagine that!  I can't stop 'em from running off the ledge. I'm on the sidelines.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4656274 nmewn
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I think Rory Reid (Harry's son) has already inked a deal with Gazprom ;-)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:34 | 4656672 Tengri Temujin
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Harry Reid is is a fake Mormon convert.  He is an opportunist and a thief, just read his bio on wiki.  One of his sons won some election as a land commissioner in Nevada not too long ago. 

"Until both of her Landra’s parents died, the Reids celebrated the Jewish holidays, the senior senator from Nevada told the New Yorker, adding: “My two oldest children have great affection for things Jewish, and my three younger children are aware of their mother’s lineage, and all of them are very proud of the fact that they are eligible for Israeli citizenship.”

We really need to outlaw this dual citizenship stuff in the USA, either you are an American or you hit the road and go back to the country you want to hold a passport for. I guess through his wife Harry is eligible for a dual passport also.


Mon, 04/14/2014 - 17:20 | 4658338 teslaberry
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so harry reid is a traitor because his wife is jewish.

anti-semtitic much?

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:52 | 4656376 Joe Davola
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Putin's pretty good at the game, but making The Teleprompter and his foreign affairs team (both past and present) look like morons is child's play.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:08 | 4656611 tempo
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As a highly fragmented society, America is held together by pink ribbons, green, gay rights and of course entitlements (available only because the $ is the world's reserve currency). As Russia/China replace the $, cracks in society will break.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:48 | 4656236 Canucklehead
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Germany is the player to watch in all of this. Whatever happens, Russia needs good relations with Germany. China can also play the "swing vote" and support Russia for a while. I suspect Russia is currently writing the rules for Chinese annexation of tracts of land north of China.

Germany and China will be the winners in all of this.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:28 | 4656931 Kirk2NCC1701
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The EU and Germany are tied together.  Which is good for both, but bad for The City (London)...

As Frankfurt rises as a financial and stock center, it takes away from London.  It's almost a zero-sum game.  This explains why the Brits -- and even Nigel Farage* -- want the EU to fall apart:  To ensure that Britannia rules the (financial) waves... sort of.  The Anglo-American alliance is symbiotic, or has become so.

   * "Nigel Farage, who are you?" asks a libertarian investigative UK journalist:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV-TbeGoQcs

The secret therefore, is to have both Russia and China align with Germany and the EU, into a Eurasian economic alliance -- which is far more rational than a trans-Atlantic alliance, because:  1. Rail beats shipping 9 times out of 10, and 2. pipelines beat shipping 10 times out of 10.

Tough days for the USD and GBP ahead.  And as goes the USD, so goes the Shekel.  The Shekelites may want to rethink their alliances and business models, in a positive and constructive manner.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:22 | 4656940 eurogold
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German-Russian Axis now !

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:51 | 4656237 Sleepless Knight
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When will these assholes realise they cant put any sanctions against Russia that have any real meaning without killing their own businesses first!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:19 | 4656279 MeMongo
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Yeah I for one certainly wouldn't want to be an American on board the space station right now. Place kinda depends on dem ruskies a bit, oh but all oboomer has to do is?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:06 | 4656427 Aussiekiwi
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Yeah, you would want to watch yourself if the ruskies asked you to pop outside to look at a squeeky door hinge or something.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:17 | 4656646 Bryan
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lol!  "Comrade, windows outside are streaky.  Here's some Windex... be a good boy."

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:40 | 4656332 y3maxx
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BREAKING NEWS!

...Thousands of American citizens laying siege to the White House.

...Signs and petitions everywhere requesting Obama resign and install African American Neurosurgeon, Dr. Ben Carson as President instead...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:31 | 4656493 free_lunch
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That theory only stands when you asume it is all about money.

But what if it is not about money (god knows they have plenty already), but about complete control and ownership? Look at Greece, cheap labour, people starving and fire sale of all public and private property/businesses. And you have an exuse to tax people to death, untill they can't pay, then take the property.. These crisises come in handy if you have a huge pile of monies..

If you take a look at the austerity policies and the drop in wages, it makes no sense. Business needs consumers, workers who get paid peanuts cannot consume, so these policies only speed up the economic meltdown. http://snbchf.snbchfcom.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Deflat...

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:46 | 4656761 Lebensphilosoph
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These people already have all the money they could ever need to fulfill their most hedonistic wants. No, thy don't want more money, they want the 99.99% to have next to none.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:54 | 4656240 new game
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germany is in a hard spot-lifeline and trade with russia vs master of nato...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:54 | 4656243 Haus-Targaryen
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The US is the NATO master. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:57 | 4656249 new game
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and a gold thingy too.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:03 | 4656254 new game
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putin could ask germany to pay for gas with all that gold coming from usa?!

we promise to pay in gold! it is on the way!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:09 | 4656262 negative rates
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What gold? That stuff with a heart of tungstun??

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:53 | 4656241 PaperBear
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"events in Eastern Ukraine have been instigated by Russia" - the lie.

USA/EU have instigated events in Ukraine - the truth.


Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:12 | 4656264 Ghordius
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another text book example on how simplification, taken too far, dumbs everything down to meaninglessness

what is this USA/EU you are talking about? a political entity that recently annexed the former province of another political entity? methinks not

fact is that Ukraine is smack in between Russia's heartland and the Black Sea, and between Russia and some of it's trade partners

fact is that Russia is the only european nation that had it's colonies right at it's borders. everybody else had to go with ships where Russians could just walk to, or build a railroad to. or... build a pipeline through

fact is that Imperial Russia's master, the Tsar, was styled "The Tsars of All Russias". meaning "White" Russia, Finland, Ukraine, Poland, etc. as Russias

fact is that all this was not that dissimilar with when the US invaded Canada, and the Brits burned down the White House to get the message across. who was the good and who was the bad side in that conflict?

fact is that Ukraine is teeming with intelligence agents from Russia and the US since the last big treaties on the matter, years ago, reminiscent of the Great Game

fact is that the EU is not in this game as an org, both military and espionage are national matters, in europe, so you have to be more specific, for example by mentioning Poland, or France, or the UK

truth... can be deceptive

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:36 | 4656316 bigkahuna
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Mother Russia, Crazy Ivan, and their bankers are tired of sitting in the penalty box (penalty for communist/despotism) and waiting for the "west" to give her a fair shot. 

Its just like any good person would do if ignored and relegated to the bottom of the heap for long enough - take care of business themselves.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:48 | 4656347 y3maxx
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...Canadians have a big worry that the USSA will soon swallow Canada..."In the name of Security vs Russian and Chinese aggression."

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:53 | 4656365 bigkahuna
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Nah, Canadians can be a grumpy lot - we would probably get our butts kicked again :)

Could make a go at Venezuela/Cuba though.

 

(yes /sarc)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:04 | 4656414 Tengri Temujin
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One thing the Canadians should worry about is that they don't have nuclear weapons and the USA does and they can't police one of the longest borders inn the world.  The other thing is with Alaska they are caught in a pincer movement.  Also half their armed forces speak French lol.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:13 | 4656448 Canucklehead
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command

Roll up your sleeves and start reading. You may learn something.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:04 | 4656420 y3maxx
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...and exacerbated by California's drought

...NEED WATER!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:03 | 4656415 SimplePrinciple
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I am more concerned that the USSA is busy swallowing itself, and will soon have no identity at all.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:05 | 4656423 Element
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Excuse the butt-in Ghordi, I thought you might have got pissed off with the place and left, so glad you're still around. Cheers.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:40 | 4656517 tip e. canoe
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me too

+1

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:43 | 4656537 nmewn
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Me three ;-)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:13 | 4656633 Hulk
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Not me ...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:23 | 4656659 nmewn
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lol...well, its not a requirement that I have to agree on everything he says, just that he has a right to be heard, heard/allowed is not the same as agreement.

You trying to start another fight this morning? ;-)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:03 | 4656857 Hulk
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Just being a contrarian this am, nothing deep or anti ghordius going on here...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:16 | 4656906 nmewn
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Uh huh...starting fights again, its why we love ya man ;-)

Well, I gotta haul ass to Lowes, seeya guys later.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:36 | 4657476 American Dreams
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The Hulk is always angry, thats his secret.  sheesh

AD

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:14 | 4656272 kridkrid
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Why can't it be both? I love zerohedge for the absence of a knee-jerk belief that the US is on the side of good... Concerned about the belief that Russia is. They're all thugs and gangsters.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:32 | 4656282 Ghordius
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got me thinking about the knee-jerk belief that there is a side of good and a side of evil in geopolitics or human conflict

hell, even some ZH atheists are often deeply convinced that there is, somewhere, a "source of all evil", an "explanation for all evils"

perhaps too many "white-hat vs black-hat" movies?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:42 | 4656340 kridkrid
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Whenever I see "conflict" between good and evil I see one part conditioning, one part propaganda and then I try to find a little truth... Aware, unfortunately, that I'm still just a product of my conditioning.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:50 | 4656371 Ghordius
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Imperial German war flags held a motto on them: "Gott mit Uns", i.e. God is on our side

in the old tribal world, it was even easier: your tribe's gods are on your side. if defeated, your tribe loses it's gods, and has to adopt the victor's gods, and language, and sense of good and evil

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:02 | 4656409 Tengri Temujin
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These days its 'Nukes are on our side'  With 4000 nukes the Russians don't have to learn anyone elses language or convert from Orthodoxy

By the way Ghordius I hear Alexander the Great is looking for you ;)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:07 | 4656431 kridkrid
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Maybe it's no different- we just have different "gods" in the form of various -isms. Communism, fascism, capitalism etc. The winner still gets to impose its gods... Define the history of the conflict, etc. http://youtu.be/hOCYcgOnWUM - example.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:20 | 4656465 AnAnonymous
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Good and evil simply do not exist in an 'american' world.

You know, when you start, as 'americans' are used to, to make everything and its contrary, it is very hard to maintain absolutes. Apart from the absolute necessity of redefining everything and anything to try to keep sense.

'Americans' are duplicitous people by nature.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:41 | 4656522 kridkrid
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Sociopaths are duplicitous people by nature. Sociopaths have always run the world. The US and Russia are no different.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:50 | 4656560 AnAnonymous
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Humanity has been 'american' since day one.

Not even all the 'american' servants are sociopaths and psychopaths. 'American' societies show more psychopaths or sociopaths in charge.

In barbaric societies, contrary to 'american' civilizations, sociopaths and psychopaths do not last that long.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:32 | 4657469 Totentänzerlied
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"In barbaric societies, contrary to 'american' civilizations, sociopaths and psychopaths do not last that long."

Absolutely golden, AnAnon, keep huffing that glue.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:41 | 4656524 kridkrid
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Sociopaths are duplicitous people by nature. Sociopaths have always run the world. The US and Russia are no different.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:33 | 4656698 Boxed Merlot
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Good and evil simply do not exist in an 'american' world...'Americans' are duplicitous people by nature...

 

 

I'm not sure "Americans" have the market cornered in this regard.  I'm not even sure if we can claim to have canonized the concept as well as Islam's Taqiyya.  The jewish military leader Joshua had a pretty interesting account too when he, before the first military event of the Israelites retaking of Canaan after the 40 year wilderness wandering and centuries of Egyptian slavery presented a false dilemna to a recognized superior force, asking "Are you for us or for our adversary?"

 

The divine being by the way answered "NO,..."  (Joshua 5:13-14)

 

The lesson being something like, you don't want God to be on your side, you want to be on God's side.  Because, as it says elsewhere, woe to those who call evil good and good evil. 

 

 

jmo.

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:50 | 4657512 American Dreams
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Good and Evil are subjective terms based on an individual's programing.  If I can get you to believe in my version of Good and Evil then the likelihood of me CONTROLLING you is highly probable.  Old as the "Gods".

Know your enemy

AD

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:11 | 4656439 Element
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It's the cowboys and itchybums movies that did it, the cowboy and the cavalry, and the birds in bonnets, geez, you weren't going to identify with the scalping itchybums now were you? Though F-Troop did introduce a bit of dissonance there.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:42 | 4656526 free_lunch
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I can see what you are trying to do here

But you're profile says it all, at least you're not hiding it.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:31 | 4656305 TheReplacement
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Oh c'mon.  You know the Russians have no qualms interfering in foreign lands.  Anyone who bets a paper dollar that only one side is stirring the pot is going to be light on toilet paper.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:57 | 4656394 bigkahuna
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lol - they're gonna have a smell to them...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:55 | 4656244 Judge Crater
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New World Order followers would love to see the Ukraine function as the trigger point for a wider conflict.  If Europe loses access to some of its gas supplies from Russia, Obama's OPEC masters will be only too happy to sell Europe oil and LNG at new higher prices. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:02 | 4656257 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' residing in Europe will be more than happy with consuming all that oil and lng.

They are the ones pushing for it.

The OPEC masters? Who's that? 'Americans' know only one master, and that is the 'american' middle class. Invasion of countries, theft, ethnical cleansing etc are performed in order to make room for the consumption spree of the 'american' middle class.

The OPEC: among them, there are Iran, Iraq, Libya, Venezuela. OPEC is such a master to 'americans' that they managed to get 'americans' to bomb and invade Iraq, Libya, Venezuela and Iran besieged.

But, hey, anything that it takes to give 'americans' peace of mind.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:25 | 4656291 nmewn
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"Invasion of countries, theft, ethnical cleansing etc are performed in order to make room for the consumption spree of the 'american' middle class."

Don't you have some Tibetan monks or little Chinese girls to murder today?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4656299 AnAnonymous
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Another example of what was commented earlier.

'Americans' cant resist their nature.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:54 | 4656383 forwardho
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If our nature is putting a boot up the ass of a halfwit provacature, Then yes, that was another example.

You're off your game citizen.

Come back after rinseing your brain with an enema.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:09 | 4656436 AnAnonymous
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Putting a boot? When? Where?

An 'american' poster on here claimed that use of ethnical/racial slurs were the act of a minority.

To which it was retorted that is of course untrue as it is part of the 'american' nature to express themselves that way.

'Americans' even go as far as inventing membership to a population in order to provide themselves with some ground to express their nature.

It goes even better (because 'americans' are always able of bettering themselves for this kind of stuff) is that 'americans' keep using the same reference.

Anything is pay back for Tibet, anything has to be opposed to Tibet.

Just over the last four years, for deeds like Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran, part of Africa, now Ukraine, everytime 'americans' keep pushing forward Tibet. Tibet that is being a work in progress since the 1950s.

Everytime 'americans' put Tibet on the table in some sort of way to balance for all their new deeds, they only show how much more proficient they are at certain things (mentioned in the first)

While China keep struggling with Tibet for 60 years now, 'americans' over the last years has done Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, certain parts of Africa and now are taking on Ukraine.

Never forget, peeps, all cultures are not equal and some, for sure, are much, much, more productive than others.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:16 | 4656453 Element
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paging fouth stoogeing ...

 

akak ... you fucking piker ... get your arse in here.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:17 | 4656457 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' at pageing...

For 'americans', the group is all.

Hard to face reality when you are an 'american'.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:26 | 4656473 Element
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You sound jealous?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:30 | 4656491 AnAnonymous
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Jealous?

Ummm, among humanity, certain people in societies are more receptive to 'americanism' than others.

Like criminals. Criminals are very envious of the 'american' ways. They love 'americanism'.

Well, that answers to the point of jealousy.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:36 | 4656504 Element
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You sound lame?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:42 | 4656528 AnAnonymous
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Lame? In opposition to capable?

Of course, who is not lame compared to 'americans' when it comes to certain things?

Who is not lame when measured up to 'american' deeds of destriction, spoliation, alienation, ethnical cleansing, duplicity, theft, innovation in destructive means?

Can someone provide a decent challenger that is not lame when challenged by 'american' capacity?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:07 | 4656597 Element
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Take a roadside squat mate, you seem to be full of it.

Could probably fill a small valley.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:41 | 4656525 nmewn
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So, the jealous matterings of chinese shitizenism's matter not, to CPC members.

Is this your incoherent point?

If so, just say so.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:54 | 4656571 AnAnonymous
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Living in a fantasy world... 'American', 'american', 'american'...

Ah, yes, in the fantasical world of 'americans', 'americanism' does not exist while invented stuff like chinese citizenism does.

Not yet enlisted in some private 'american' deployed on the ground or already gained free healthcare, free tuition and all the other entitlements by serving in previous wars?

With the rate 'americans' generate them, it is clear that the offer on the table is large...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:05 | 4656601 nmewn
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So, you will not say anything against your chi-com overlords.

Thanks for the confirmation, again ;-)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:32 | 4656700 IndyPat
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..."With the rate 'americans' generate them..."

Ah, yes, that is the mattering of the ChiCom generating...they cannot recognize their role in the generating. Thus, it is their "nature", that, and the "back to nature" of a most double satisfying roadside squat? Indeed.

Speaking of "generating"....how's about pulling out every now and then and giving us all a break? How many roadside shitizens do you fucking need? Aren't your Shitizism Slave Labor Camps full yet, for fucks sake...use a fuckin rubber. And a fucking toilet, for that matter...

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:36 | 4656721 CrazyCatLady
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Incoherent is right.  Maybe try using some plainer language man, your points are not very well thought out, just alot of insults.  Put some substance to it if you have something to say, anonymous

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:04 | 4657362 Element
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He's been doing the same thing for a long time Mr's Cat, he's not into the whole rational concorde between equals thing, it's more a fan of racist taunt and garbled half-baked utter nonsense and verbal effluvium. The worst thing you can try to do is focus on deciphering some meaning from a series of these tirades. Many have tried and never recovered to fromer faculties. It's a sort of verbal Medusa.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:14 | 4657405 Intoxicologist
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His magical flying rickshaw lost a wheel.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:10 | 4656438 Tengri Temujin
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Depends which kind of 'Americans' you are talking about, the ones in the halls of power may not be as American as you think

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:32 | 4656309 TheReplacement
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Hey Mr. Carney, your soviet propaganda is showing.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:53 | 4656385 swmnguy
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It's more complex than that.  It's more the idea of the 'American' middle class than the actual 'American' middle class.  The elites are more than willing to extract the last penny from the actual 'American' middle class and grind them into the dirt, all the while paying thunderous lip service to the idea of the 'American' middle class and consumption.  We're past the stage in the collapse of the global finance system where actual consumption is a long-term goal.  Now it's merely about financial extraction, and stockpiling strategic resources (particularly energy now, but also water and various more rare industrial stuff).  If not stockpiling such resources, then creating violent chaos where those resources lie and the routes those resources have to be transported for anyone else to use tham.

'Americans,' especially the 'american middle class' are just along for the ride now.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:36 | 4656505 AnAnonymous
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The elite, in an 'american' society, serve the 'american' middle class.

The most common way to gain power, to grow richer in an 'american' society is to serve the 'american' middle class.

This is how it works in an 'american' society.

The fact is that people in power are compelled to deal in reality. The 'american' servants figured some time ago that despite all their efforts, they could not maintain the entire middle class in their entitlements.

The solution the servants offer was that to save the middle class, part of it must be sacrificed.

All servants to the 'american' middle class might not love their 'american' middle class master, for humane reasons, only psychopaths, sociapaths can turn a blind eye to the 'american' middle class nature, that is why there are so many of them psychopaths, sociopaths, serving the master..

No matter what, though, a servant is a servant because the servant serves. Servants cant rein in their master. They must do their master's bidding.

the 'american' middle class is in charge, and has always been.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:42 | 4656530 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The elite, in an Erdogan citizenism 'turkish' society, serve the Kurdish class.

This is how it works under Erdogan citizenism. The Kurdish class is in charge, and has always been.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:57 | 4656579 AnAnonymous
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Now that is the turks.

Wooo, the 'american' passion for the group is great.

'American' deeds are not enough to justify being distinguished. There must be something else.

Since that is Turkey, it is now believed that Turkey was behind the chemical attacks in Syria.

So it means that the demand for Syria to disarm and destroy its chemical arsenal must be repelled.

Oh, wait, it cant be because 'americans' do not force people to confess crimes they did not commit. That is what the King's justice was doing and that is why, 'americans' stated, the king's justice should be ridden of.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:57 | 4656580 AnAnonymous
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Now that is the turks.

Wooo, the 'american' passion for the group is great.

'American' deeds are not enough to justify being distinguished. There must be something else.

Since that is Turkey, it is now believed that Turkey was behind the chemical attacks in Syria.

So it means that the demand for Syria to disarm and destroy its chemical arsenal must be repelled.

Oh, wait, it cant be because 'americans' do not force people to confess crimes they did not commit. That is what the King's justice was doing and that is why, 'americans' stated, the king's justice should be ridden of.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:44 | 4656749 CrazyCatLady
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Blah blah blah

Got any examples or facts to back this up?

You are just an empty head anonymous

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 07:55 | 4656246 ParkAveFlasher
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What will the Russians do without Cameron Diaz and the dollar menu?

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:58 | 4656582 IridiumRebel
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Well, Prime Minister Cameron Diaz is hard at work with the US to maintain the PetroDollarMenu hegemony.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:00 | 4656248 JustObserving
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UK Foreign Secretary Hague says there can be no doubt that events in Eastern Ukraine have been instigated by Russia

As if William Hague has any credibility.

More than a million dead in an illegal war in Iraq started on lies and William Hague says there must be no prosecutions of war criminals:

William Hague has dismissed a bid to trigger prosecutions of British politicians and senior military figures over alleged war crimes in Iraq.

The foreign secretary said there was no need for the International Criminal Court (ICC) to investigate allegations of UK forces abusing and killing detainees in their custody.

Human rights lawyers have drawn on the cases of more than 400 Iraqis, arguing they represent "thousands of allegations of mistreatment amounting to war crimes of torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment". They describe incidents ranging from "hooding" prisoners to burning, electric shocks, threats to kill and "cultural and religious humiliation".

Other forms of alleged abuse between 2003 and 2008 include sexual assault, mock executions, and threats of rape, death and torture.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/12/william-hague-iraq-war-pros...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4656298 Ghordius
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with that, the UK is just claiming the same special status for their soldiers as the US is regularly doing. which itself it's an incentive for others to have their soldiers without national insignia, which then leads to further "decivilization" of war in general

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:58 | 4656369 JustObserving
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What further decivilization of war that you talk of?  US-UK sanctions on Iraq killed between 1.7 million and 2.1 Iraqis (per CIA Iraq analyst Susan Lindauer), but Madeline Albright who approved of the policy and confirmed that 500,000 children had died on May 12, 1996 got the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2012.

Nearly 150,000 people have died in Syria in an illegal war supported by the West.  Obama almost lied to a wider war as Seymour Hersh revealed.

The NSA collects 3.2 billion pieces of intelligence illegally a day and 5 billion cellphone locations a day ensuring that everyone is living in a digital prison.

The world is at continuous war now - most of the soldiers in this war do not wear uniforms or insignias.

The “grossly hypocritical” UN refused to terminate the sanctions, Boyle pointed out, even though its own Food and Agricultural Organization’s Report estimated that by 1995 the sanctions had killed 560,000 Iraqi children during the previous five years.

Boyle noted that then U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright was interviewed on CBS-TV on May 12, 1996, in response to a question by Leslie Stahl if the price of half a million dead children was worth it, and replied, “we (the U.S. government) think the price is worth it.”

Albright’s shocking response provides “proof positive of the genocidal intent by the U.S. government against Iraq” under the Genocide Convention, Boyle said, adding that the government of Iraq today could still bring legal action against the U.S. and the U.K. in the International Court of Justice. He said the U.S.-U.K. genocide also violated the municipal legal systems of all civilized nations in the world; the 1989 Convention on the Rights of the Child; and the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 and its Additional Protocol 1 of 1977.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...

 

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:03 | 4656417 sushi
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You left out the use of depleted uranium munitions in Iraq. When DU munitions hit target the result is a toxic cloud of DU which enteres the soil, air, water supply etc and then bioaccumulates. The outcome is a significant increase in birth defects in the Iraqi population (several 100,000+ cases) and likely similar effects on exposed military personnel.

The Iraqi people should apply to the UN to have themselves recategorized as a form of desert tortoise. These are a protected species. Human beings, not so much.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:14 | 4656451 AnAnonymous
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That is brilliant.

Human beings forced to recategorized themselves as animals to get their natural human rights enforced.

Aint life good in an 'american' world?

That stated, one must also remember that, as it was obvious for all (including 'americans') that their slaves were human beings, 'americans' explained that, actually, they held no human beings in slavery, only sub humans or non humans. Non humans including animals.

It is for sure a possibility to take into account for all the irradiated iraqi who must claim mutation to a new animal species in order to qualify.

But they must also keep in mind that in an 'american' world, every human being has equal rights, for animals, it well, all animals are not equal, right.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:41 | 4656470 JustObserving
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The victims of war are usually forgotten as the victors write the history books.  Churchill deliberately starved 4 million Indians to death during World War II.  A million Vietnamese are still suffering from the effects of Agent Orange today even as Obama hypocritically draws a red line against sarin use today.  Use of depleted uranium is a war crime but the fully owned and manipulated UN will have nothing to say about that.

The Vietnam Red Cross reported as many as 3 million Vietnamese people have been affected by Agent Orange, including at least 150,000 children born with birth defects.[65] According to Vietnamese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 4.8 million Vietnamese people were exposed to Agent Orange, resulting in 400,000 people being killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects.[66] Women had higher rates of miscarriage and stillbirths, as did livestock such as cattle, water buffalo, and pigs.[67] The Red Cross of Vietnam estimates that up to 1 million people are disabled or have health problems due to contaminated Agent Orange. (wiki)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401378/Agent-Orange-Vietnamese-...

Madhusree Mukerjee’s book [Churchill’s Secret War: The British Empire and the Ravaging of India during World War II, New York, Basic Books, 2010] is not a denunciation of British rule of India, but a meticulous chronicling of the role of the British Raj in furthering a famine in Bengal, and suppressing the fact that this deliberate holocaust took 4 million lives. British historians, including Sir Winston Churchill in his five-volume memoir, glossed over this rather ‘irrelevant incident.’ Historians around the world have made little effort either to find out how many lost their lives in the 1943 famine, or what role the British colonialists played to cause this man-made famine.

http://www.vijayvaani.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?aid=1396

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:03 | 4656416 Aussiekiwi
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Oh well, 'Boys will be Boys'....well, as long as its our boys....moving along.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:02 | 4656255 Seasmoke
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Bullish Red Crayons. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:02 | 4656256 fonzannoon
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"Of course, some people are afraid. But they are still lining up to get their pensions,"

 

LOL

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:23 | 4656281 Momauguin Joe
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Let's hope WW3 isn't set off when one of these babushka's throws a shoe at one of these Greystone psychopaths. 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:10 | 4656263 A_Nejad
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And Putin goes: "privesti yego na" (bring it ooooon ).  

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:21 | 4656283 MarkAntony
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Incorrect translation. Can't translate English into Russian directly - it makes no sense ;)

Bring it on = Davay, blatch!  Putin has made that statement a looooong time ago...  LOL

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:38 | 4656323 A_Nejad
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Hey dude, I did my best, so sue me sucka!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:36 | 4656720 MarkAntony
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No harm intended bro... chill out ;)

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:15 | 4656270 lolmao500
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And of course Russia just tested another ICBM...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:18 | 4656276 Bill of Rights
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--------------------------------------------RED LINE ----------------------------------------------------

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:25 | 4656287 MarkAntony
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I'll see your red line and raise;

 

 

 

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Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:09 | 4656435 SpanishGoop
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No red here.

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:24 | 4656289 Ghordius
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oops... sorry, some soldiers I do not recognize as my own and wearing no insigna have crossed your line. did I say sorry? well, don't take this as an admission of anything

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4656501 Element
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Ah, but I see you're wearing an IMF signet ring ... you're fucked bunny.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:27 | 4656296 MaxThrust
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Its possible Russia has been aiding these seperatists to set up shop and provide support but I dont see a benefit for Putin in as much as a referemdum would be much better. Also gasprom is going to get paid once the IMF start handing over the money to enslave the Ukrainians. I reckon that Putin is happy to sit on his hands and let this play out.

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:30 | 4656304 f16hoser
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Putin is gonna get him some Black Water NAZI's!!! I'm Luvin' It!!!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:32 | 4656308 ptolemy_newit
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The USUK team will send in their mercs!

It may be funny when they arrive all the people will be playing cards with their neighbours.  Waiting for the choice of governance, the law allows this referendum to VOTE.


Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:40 | 4656334 SoDamnMad
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Referendum for Catalonia. Referendum for Tibet. Referendum for Hong Kong. Referendum for Scotland. Referendum for Texas. Referendum for Quebec.  Referendum for NYC (evict the UN).  

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:53 | 4656381 AnAnonymous
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Referendum for the United States of America.

Oh, wait, 'americans' eliminated the original owners of the land.

Ummm, there's something there to investigate...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:19 | 4656462 Canucklehead
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I own America. I like it just the way it is. My deed to the lands of America is as follows:

In the beginning of time, Adam and Eve owned all worldy lands.

I am a descendent of Adam and Eve.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:38 | 4656512 AnAnonymous
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Adam and Eve lived in Eden, which is not the full world. Americas are not mentioned in the Bible

Alongside, the Bible stated that they were other men.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:41 | 4656523 Canucklehead
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... That's your interpretation. Stop being a bigot and respect my rights...

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:58 | 4656584 AnAnonymous
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What intepretation? That is a litteral report of the Bible.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:53 | 4656796 IndyPat
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As if you've ever been within 30 ft of a counter-revolutionary document, such as the Bible.

I roadside squat in your general direction, son of a silly-personizm!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:55 | 4657076 Canucklehead
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You need to learn to read... You water body deterministic Bigot.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:44 | 4656541 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Eden citizenism has been blobbing up since day one.

Bear with it.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:59 | 4656589 AnAnonymous
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Speaking of blobbing up, 'americans' keep increasing the rate.

Up to the stars and beyond.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:43 | 4656746 IndyPat
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....increasing the rate? are you fucking serious? Again, I know its not in the "nature" of ChiCom Shitizens to use rubbers or at the very fucking least, pull out, but alas...it may be something you should add to your nature.

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:57 | 4657542 Volkodav
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but not Adamites.. that is where the problems come from

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:42 | 4656336 Rakshas
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I hate to be one of the sphincter crowd but it's spelled T-I-R-E-S  JEEZUZ H KRYST WHI CAN'T THE BRYTS  SPELL TIRES RYGHT

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 13:55 | 4657531 Volkodav
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Tyres.....

as in Pyres...

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:42 | 4656337 Kina
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As if William Hague has any credibility.

 

 

Thats the problem they have....lack of credibility. Nobody believes anything William Hague says. He is totally full of shit and just playing the game.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:44 | 4656346 muleskinner
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Don't these dumbasses have anything better to do?  All a bunch of lying sacks of shit.

I suppose it's fun to fly to Kiev to drink wodcah and hope some Ukrainian babe will go wild in your presence.

Obama should board Air Force One right now, fly right to Moscow, march up to the Kremlin and ask Putin what the fuck is going on here and get right to the bottom of it all.

Dumbasses.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 10:12 | 4656627 Ocean22
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great idea, JFK tried something like that and they killed him. 

these MIC ASSHOLES want war, its pretty clear.  its a very terrible world we live in, but WE, the 99% SHOULD be able to take this ship back and steer her to safe waters, but we better act soon. 

 WE call on ALL YOU MILTARY MEN, you are the linch pin!

DONT ATTACK ANYONE. DONT PUSH THE BUTTON We don't want war with Russai or China, we can live in peace and work together. 

FUCK the bankers and their usery. 

FUCK the elites and their money and power,

FUCK the nuclear industry.

FUCK the Monsanto the poison food makers.

FUCK the global warming fear mongers.

FUCK big oil, lets embrace renewables on every roof top

FUCK big pharma, embrace organic healthy living.

FUCK EM ALL and lets take this ship back for the peace loving people of the world who can discuss and reason and comprimise together rather than fighting like idots!!

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:00 | 4656359 tony wilson
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free people

 of freedonia

of kiev and it's outer city regions

you are safe.

your gold is gone but you are safe

nazi idf units will protect you.

 

people of the east yats the yid says he will bury you and he will.

yats is israel israel is yats you goy must go.

make way for a new beauty.

  chevron frack futures and monsanto genetics.

soon cattle we will build a desert on these organic fertile plains.

rejoice you filth you dogs  and embrace new futures

embrace your master satan

 

 

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:53 | 4656384 free_lunch
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Everything is going as planned, within a year everybody 99.99% in US and EU lives in deep poverty. All economy ruined, Dollar gone and replaced with an even bigger SDR ponzi.

Feudal 2.0

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:59 | 4656586 layman_please
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no way, i keep reading on ZH how incompetent the us leaders are. what to believe?

/s

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:53 | 4656386 Chuck Knoblauch
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Maybe next week when the weather is warmer.

YAWN>>>>>>>>>

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 08:56 | 4656393 alentia
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Once again this thread is full of Putin's ass kissing paid trolls.

Mon, 04/14/2014 - 09:46 | 4656546 Tengri Temujin
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No the interesting thing is that all of us are patriotic Americans, we don't kiss ass to the bankers like our politicians do.  We like Putin cause he is a Man's man and he has his bankers by the neck.

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