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This Is How Free Americans Really Are
Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,
Americans: This Is How Free You Really Are
Among all the great stories and conversations passed down from the ages, probably my favorite is one from the ancient historian Lucius Cassius Dio about Roman emperor Caracalla.
Caracalla ruled in the second century AD, and he was notorious for bankrupting the Roman treasury and waging costly, unnecessary wars.
Dio tells us that Caracalla made “one excuse after another and one war after another; but he made it his business to strip, despoil, and grind down all the rest of mankind.”
Under Caracalla, Rome was broke. And Dio recounts a story between the emperor and his mother Julia:
Julia to the emperor: “There is no longer any source of revenue, either just or unjust, left to us.”
The emperor replied, pointing to his sword, “Be of good cheer, mother: for as long as we have this [the sword], we shall not run short of money.”
Caracalla’s words summed up Roman tax policy at the time. It is perhaps not too far from modern tax policy either.
Today is tax day in the Land of the Free– the deadline for roughly 150 million individual tax returns to be filed.
Of course, those who refuse will be hauled off to prison at the point of a gun (we’ve advanced beyond swords). And everybody knows it.
The IRS is legendary in this respect. Those three simple letters inspire fear, dread, and panic across the world.
The IRS “brand” is probably almost as famous as Coca Cola… but for all the wrong reasons.
It seems completely incongruent for a nation that is supposed to stand for the ideals of freedom and justice to be world famous for its medieval prosecution of tax policy.
And there’s one clear example that I want to tell you about today.
If you are a US taxpayer with foreign financial accounts (such as a bank, brokerage, or potentially even a gold storage account overseas), there’s a fairly new disclosure form that you must file to the IRS today along with your 1040.
It’s called form 8938. And if you’ve never heard about it, I definitely recommed you speak to your tax advisor pronto.
Like all of these other tax forms, they threaten you with all sorts of fees, interest, penalties, and of course, jail time.
(The US is one of the only civilized countries in the world where taxation creates -criminal- liability. Again, totally incongruent.)
What’s interesting about this is that it’s possible there could be certain instances and certain places in the world where the local privacy laws could make it -illegal- to disclose this information to the IRS.
But the US government doesn’t care.
And on page 7 of the instructions for form 8938, they say that even if “a foreign jurisdiction would impose a civil or criminal penalty on you if you disclose the required information,” then they still expect you to file the form.
File the form and go to jail. Don’t file the form and go to jail.
Is this really what a ‘free society’ puts its citizens through?
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Fuck off "simon" (or whoever you are).
Amen Laws
We all hate the IRS, but simon has always been a douche, period. No truly useful information in his posts (or nothing any smart individual didn't already know). If you don't know how to "appear on the brink of poverty" on paper, you are an idiot. Especially if you are a small buysiness using real accounting standards.
"Criminal liability" has been an issue for over one hundred years. why the fuck didn't he leave sooner?
Same as it ever was.
People could just lie.
5 Things Simon Black Enjoys:
(Not necessarily in order of importance)
1) Piña Coladas
2) Gettin' caught in the rain
3) Yoga
4) Makin' love at midnight
5) Offshore tax havens that are beacons of liberty
6) camels
6) Thick layers if bullshit.
You know he once killed the President of Paraguay with a shrimp fork, right?
He is the most interesting man in the world, and scoffs at Dos Equis (piss water swill), drinking only the finest Bohemian or Belgian lagers and ales (who can blame him)?
Stay thirsty my friends!
... usual trolls have planted their flags in the first dozen positions... paid commentors? IRS employees? Administration shills? Guys who just LOVE bureaucracy? You can never tell. but the message is clear: "Hey!... we know all that stuff Simon, and we don't want you puttin up another opportunity for comments!!! RANTS are okay. Incomprehensible rambling is okay, but no more of this!! Ya got that Simon!?"
I'll bet you guys don't wanna hear about HR25 again either, do ya?
Simon, I welcome your posts on the IRS - and especially the last one on "consideration" (about what I would call the anti-transactional aspect of income tax) - because the IRS is a very complex and pernicous creature that cannot be ignored until it is dead. Dead. Dead. Dead...
The more it gets talked about the sooner everyone will become familiar with its real anatomy; and, with the single weapon capable of killing it: the FairTax or HR25 (S122).
BTW: the FairTax only taxes transactions and the tax it collects should be thought of as "consideration" (a general term for payment or compensation) for services rendered by the government. The FairTax doesn't reach out and tax you just because you're there! The FairTax isn't like a thug (the IRS) who walks up to you and says "Gimme a piece a what you got this year!"
"The FairTax doesn't reach out and tax you just because you're there! The FairTax isn't like a thug (the IRS) who walks up to you and says "Gimme a piece a what you got this year!""
Right, its like a thug that walks up in the middle of your arms length transaction and tells you to give him a piece of your arm, or else! Gimme a piece of what you got this year, but only when you spend it so it appears more "voluntary".
Fuck all taxes, and fuck the FairTax for its duplicitous double speak in particular.
That's against the law.... for us.
All depends on what ones definition of law is huh?
See, its not against the law for politicians to frequent their online trading accounts, while voting on matters of national monetary consequence to us.
Its not against the law for Corzine to "misappropriate" billions but oddly enough, it is for someone to steal a three dollar loaf of bread.
Its against the law to transport or possess high capacity magazines in DC, unless your last name is Gregory, apparently.
And of course (to your main point of habitual liars) its not against the law for "our leaders" to stand before us and say you will save $2,500 a year, its not a tax, its penalty (something to do with the savings part of the lie I guess) that everything is in fact shovel ready & good to go, we hate Wall Street (as they enrich themselves & them) and no ones looking at your emails.
Yes, its all a matter of "the law" ;-)
Before the law sits a gatekeeper. To this gatekeeper comes a man from the country who asks to gain entry into the law. But the gatekeeper says that he cannot grant him entry at the moment. The man thinks about it and then asks if he will be allowed to come in later on. “It is possible,” says the gatekeeper, “but not now.”
http://www.kafka-online.info/before-the-law.html
(from a man whose writings are sadly undermentioned around here)
Very much undermentioned around here Tip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V41tKgg_n0
I like it ;-)
Simon- Let's all just not pay taxes. Shot and need the cops? Sorry, get the for profit police to help you after you write a check. House on fire? Sorry, pay $1000 for the private fire dept to put it out. Potholes after polar vortex? Sorry, pay $10 to use the private "fast and smooth" highway to work. Don't want to pay taxes, sorry get the F out of the USA!
I didn't realize the IRS funded my local police and fire departments.
By the way, there's a lot of us rednecks down here that have a thing called a "volunteer" fire department. They have bake sales, yard sales and solicit donations. People contribute because they all know that one day they might need a little help.
they do when they bailout broke states, provide natural disaster relief, etc.... you really think states get no federal help on anything?? IRS does fund the FBI, the military, and every federal agency that you depend on, running the world's largest economy isn't by magical volunteers
The government that you love so much funds all of the wonderful things you listed by BORROWING money !
The government that you love so much funds all of the wonderful things you listed by stealing the wealth of the producers!
FIFY
Actually Mr. Pink is correct. Whether it eventually comes out of dollars held by producers, skimmers, or moneychangers is a matter of debate.
But funding comes from deficit spending.
pods
Crawdaddy hereby declares self help against SolidSnake961.
If the IRS funds all those things I "depend on" then they must be something I would normally fund anyway, right? Kind of like the volunteer fire department mentioned above.
Maybe, just maybe, the gub'mint has outgrown its britches and needs to collect more and more through threats, coersion, and acts of violence to feed the expanding monster.
And ironically, the real economy IS run by volunteers...not centrally planned as your post suggests...though I, for one, don't have any magical powers.
Don't let gub'mint supplant charity and volunteerism...because they [the gub'mint] really suck at figuring out who needs what/when/where/why and to what extent.
Well damn it! Since you put it that way, where's the line of people waiting to give you blow jobs?
"IRS does fund the FBI, the military, and every federal agency that you depend on"
Surely, you jest-no one "depends" on these monstrosities. Let's eliminate the Education, Energy, TSA deptartments and no one will even note their absence except from the relief from harassment. Oh, and the NSA, FBI, IRS too. Foreign aid, dues to the UN and world bank etc.
You're on the wrong site buddy. Go to the Huffington Post with your statist, central planning nonsense. We're not in the bull shit business on this site. We're in the freedom business. You've been warned, you snake in the grass!
Wow, you beat the living shit out of that strawman!
It's funny how none of those things you listed are funded by taxes paid to the IRS. Now if you want to talk about bloated freedom grabbing agencies and non stop wars that's a different story.
No shit. I'm so sick of these douchebags claiming income taxes pay for roads and services we need I'm about to nail gun myself.
YOUR income go to pay the interest on the debt we "owe" to the banking cartel. PERIOD
FucknA right Mr Pink.
These are the same unthinking douchebags who claim anyone who wants less government wants to live in Somalia.
These are the very same douchebags that need YOUR dollars and taxes to pay for their 50-100% federal or state pension and healthcare.
I truly will dance a jig when the SHTF just because these filthy f-heads will all cry boo, hoo, hoo. (Hat tip to the Grinch)
Call the popo and getting shot is an outcome with a probability > zero. If they just shoot your dog, consider yourself lucky.
Hell the cops are locking up the firemen these days. I could do without either group myself. 100% volunteer is the way to go.
solidsnake, you are 50lbs of fail in a 10lb bag. Fuck off, cockgoblin.
PS:
You are fucking stupid enough to post again I see, the phrase 'better to not speak and be thought a fool than to speak and confirm it' isn't one you've heard before huh? How do you think the feds get the fiat in the first place you stupid fucking cunt? People with your line of thinking are a cancer and a big fucking reason why this country is where it's at today.
SS961: the IRS is not the only possible tool for tax collection. Read about the FairTax (HR25 which is now before the the Way and Means Committee) at this location.
I don't believe Simon said: "Let's have anarchy!"
And, what I say is: we don't need to have the Waffen SS collecting taxes in this country!
How about no income tax, since it was unconstitutional from 1787-1913? From my legal understanding, the Federal government can institute excise taxes and tarriffs to raise funds. Even property tax should be outlawed as it directly opposes freedom and liberty.
The progressive income tax is a plank in the Communist Manifesto, right there between central government control of education and the abolition of private property rights. It is good to know the genesis of your misery if you want to have any hope of ending it.
In 2 hours the night shift D.C attorney will put "the top 53 things proving Americans are not free" article that he cut and pasted in between tennis lessons from this article up for us to click click click on.
Damn only 53 today? I was really hoping for a record. I have nothing better to do than spend a whole night clicking links.
If you don't know how to "appear on the brink of poverty" on paper, you are an idiot. Especially if you are a small buysiness using real accounting standards.
I guess I'm an idiot then because I REALLY need to learn that trick actually.
You can even go to Pay.gov and donate extra money towards paying off the national debt!
https://www.pay.gov/paygov/
Where can I go to donate extra money to get some of my "inalienable" rights back?
funny, i was just talking with some people about how to negotiate a divorce settlement with the boomer generation.
when is the time to be so blunt to ask: how much do you want just to leave us the fuck alone from here on in?
Pish, then don't have kids and live in New Jersey.
The answer to your question is 25 years of alimony and child support.
i'm thinking more in terms of a lump-sum payment.
is Florida an acceptable compromise?
(sorry nmewn)
Permanent alimony is still a likely outcome in Florida. I wouldn't do that. No income tax states with reasonable divorce laws are Texas and Nevada as far as I know.
My divorce trial in Florida is coming up in 6 weeks and I am expecting my proverbial fisting.
25 years??
Dude, if they aren't self-supporting by their 20th birthday... well, then.... the time for euthanizing the useless little shits is long past due.
A nice thought. "I'll give you this lump sum payment, cash on the barrel-head, if you'll kindly take your hand out of my wallet."
Lately though, I get frustrated by the sheer cravenness through which the boomers voted themselves 30 Golden Years (give or take) at my expense. I'm just glad that my parents have managed to save a respectable nest egg, because I'll be up to my eyeballs in bills, mailed to me by our friendly Uncle Sam, to care for the larger preponderance of Boomers who lacked any such foresight.
Thought experiment: we Solylent Green all the boomers, zero out SS, debt jubilee and start over. Keep voting for psycho control freaks, keep the Fed - what really changed?
Beware the divide and conquer tactics used to keep anyone from looking at the source of ALL of our problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5mZ5FBHg0A
believe me, i've already done the experiment. also aware of the divide & conquer schtick. but it's not about the age thing, i personally get along with my grandparents' generation quite nicely.
not saying that my generation isn't fucked up as well, but the boomers are seriously WACK. they are insistent on meddling in everyone else's shit and fucking it up to suit their own interest at the expense of everyone else (including their grandchilden). even when you tell them you know what they're doing, they're so deep in denial, they just look at you with glassy eyes and try to find another way to manipulate you.
not sayin everyone in that generation is like that. Mike Ruppert wasn't, but look what happened to him. Hunter too.
Brother Tip - widen your horizon of thought. Hope is not lost. Remember that old saying? What goes around, comes around. Imagine yourself in 20-30 years and things are way more f'd up than now. And the new generation blames you. Will you say "I did not wish this upon you, I tried to fight it".
We are all in this together and it will end sooner if we fight the real enemy instead of the false enemies thrown before us in propaganda.
i know brother, i just needed to rant a bit after watching that doc on Ruppert. sometimes you just gotta put it out there, even though painting with such a broad brush is a major part & parcel of the Problem.
besides, the real enemy is within us all, yes? thanks for playing the foil.
I'll give you a link to pay off my debt.
Doc u saw where it closed today right? I will forever hate that pos stock.
Lol..... I was watching it all day just shaking my head in disbelief.
haha, just give me a heads up when is good man. i should be around in the am if tomorrow works.
I just clicked on the link and donated $33,000,000.00
If every US citizen did likewise, we'd be back on a sound financial footing, fer sure.
But only for a New York lower Manhattan Minute.
If I had a printing press I'd do the same thing. As a matter of fact I'd just print til I paid the whole debt off. Until then I'll keep stacking :P
" certain places in the world where the local privacy laws could make it -illegal- to disclose this information to the IRS."
Ok,ok lemme guess..
They don't have a central bank, and they shit in a hole!!
What did i win Simon? er Alex?
It's 1861 ... Abraham Lincoln's message to the Southern States: pay your taxes or I'll kill you.
Land of the Free SIC
Has turned into the Land of the Gov Free to do anything they F'n want!!!
Kill the IRS
Starve the whole fucking beast to death.
The beast doesnt eat tax dollars. It just likes to take yours for sport and to reinforce who owns you. MMT has a few things right, just not the big picture.
If you want to see the true nature of the beast, just starve it
"Uncle Sam puts his hand in your shirt and squeezes your tit till it's purple."
If you like your Kafka, you can keep him.
Welcome to the New Rome.
All hail Caesar!
Ah for the good old 1040-EZ days. Life was much simpler then.
Life before 1987 was good....after that it went to shit.
It never ceases to amaze: Today's Americans endure a level of taxation that would have driven our forefathers into red revolt. Indeed, our forefathers were sufficiently outraged by even a sliver of such a tax burden, that they mustered arms and fought tooth-and-nail with the most powerful empire on the planet - and won.
And now their descendents bow down and lick the hand that enslaves them.
Hence my amazement. It doesn't take long for Big Government to completely change the character of a nation. In the space of a century, the people who forged the greatest republic in the world have become a majority of navel-gazers.
There is a saying, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Or, as a Rothchild said, "“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
The (very) few who see through the mirage, who see the truth, most often switch sides once they realize one thing: The people themselves choose to be slaves. And, that is exactly how they justify the evil they participate in: The people themselves BEG for it. That doesn't excuse evil at all, I'm just explaining the historical dearth of freedom leaders and people willing to stand up for themselves. Look at the essay The Politics of Obedience available on Mises.org. Then research the author, Etienne de la Boetie. This guy seemed to get it, but then he ended up working for the king. Case in point. To sum up, the majoity are stupid, brainwashed or both. Those who do 'get it' see the futility in swimming against the tide and justify their allegience to evil by the (true) fact that most people demand to be enslaved. The solution is to do what many of us here are doing - to educate ourselves and eventually others. My 2c.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people so well armed can let the crooks continue to strip them of every scrap they work for even in the face of blatant criminality committed by their own "government" against them, always seems to be the "well as long as they don't come after me" mentality, fook me they come after everybody and as George Carlin so aptly warned many years ago - they are coming after your social security next and scene...... so well armed...... constitution, guns, communications, and still bend over and take it.......
And just in case you haven't........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKeaw7HPG04
I really love the opening moments with George W Fuckwit "the american people expect us too...."
by american people I think he means Amerikan Owners........ the owners of Amerika land of the sheep home of the fleece...
@Bal Int "Today's Americans endure a level of taxation that would have driven our forefathers into red revolt. "
So true. But todays Americans are afflicted with a public school education... and a general PC-induced loss of focus and purpose in their lives. The comments on this forum are a object lesson:
You see one comment after another, each trying to be more clever than the last... some grinding a personal axe - others on an ego trip of some kind. Our forefathers, on the other hand (having no Big Brother to tell them what to think and suffering a boo-boo without a government safety net now and then OMG!!!!) used their minds for a purpose: their own protection and interests. They possessed awareness and FELT the effects of what was going on around them and focused their attention on things that made a difference. They focused on things they could DO ...not on wisecracks.
And what do you see on these comment pages? Mostly people who may or may not even have a job, and if they do have a job, they work for someone else who quietly picks their pocket each month (good old withholding!). They DON'T FEEL IT! They're content to out-do each other making wisecracks... this is addressed to the ones who aren't paid trolls.
What would are forefathers have done? They would have quickly seen that the only practical ACTION (as opposed to goof-ball comments) against such a large and complex entity as the IRS would be existing legislation up for vote (the FairTax, House Resolution 25 currently before Ways and Means) via the BALLOT BOX. They would have made it clear that the only way any candidate will get elected to national office in any damned STATE of this UNION will be a clear commitment to vote in favor of the FAIRTAX!
No wisecracks required. Just bring the FairTax to the attention of anyone who hasn't heard about it. That is what our forefathers (and mothers) would have done.
...and speaking of our forefathers and foremothers: it was the issue of the hated GENERAL WARRANTS that ignited the revolution, and eventually led to the Fourth Amendment. The FairTax goes a very long way to restoring the Fourth Amendment.
I doubt the NSA would approve, but those early Americans would have embraced the FairTax immediately.
(of course there is the level of taxation today.... but let's separate issues and restore The Constitution one step at a time.)
Over pay and live happily
We are free to to as the government decrees.
run toto run!
Too late for that my pretty, I have flying monkeys and know how to use them!!!
Its not the money they care about, its the control.
Money buys control.
Hell, the own the printing presses. Why do they want our $$$?
Fuck the $$$ it's your soul they want.
As my late father used to say, "I work for the government six months of the year and the rest of the time I am out on parole trying to feed my family."
Lol, I would be lucky to even know that such a form exists, let alone "have money overseas."
This timely information should be directed to the fortunate corporations and the 1%'ers who pay zero taxes.
The writer of this article is bound to be a troll. One notices that he says the USA is among the few nations to criminalize tax errors, which doesn't really jibe with going to jail in the overseas jurisdiction that makes a civil case over divulging said info on said US tax form. So I might go to jail for not filing the form here, but I would only pay a penalty there...unless I was soooo stoopid as to choose an offshore haven that also criminalizes divulging my personal info to the IRS...maybe the author would be so kind as to list the oxytaxonic (hey-I like that one) havens so that we can all avoid so much extra cost and embarassment!:)
+1 for making up the new word
One nation under Zero
If we could just convince the 'Al ScareYa types to hunt bankers, bureaucrats and pooliticians instead of schoolgirls in Nigeria...
pay up! the federal government needs to spend your cash!
Taxation without representation....I get the feeling we've been here before.....
Now, Social Security claims it overpaid someone in the Grice family — it’s not sure who — in 1977. After 37 years of silence, four years after Sadie Grice died, the government is coming after her daughter. Why the feds chose to take Mary’s money, rather than her surviving siblings’, is a mystery...The aggressive effort to collect old debts started three years ago — the result of a single sentence tucked into the farm bill lifting the 10-year statute of limitations on old debts to Uncle Sam. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/social-security-treasury-target-h...
The American people's first and foremost weapon is to just quit paying, Let them try to maintain their house of cards ponzi without the stolen labor and wealth of their victims, the American people. They can't. And if one understands how the fraudulent-reserve banks work, they will realize that they stole the money they "loaned" you in the first place.
Then just quit paying, obeying and playing.
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying, quit playing.
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a
restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
The American people's first and foremost weapon is to just quit paying, Let them try to maintain their house of cards ponzi without the stolen labor and wealth of their victims, the American people.
Goddamn I wish we'd all do just that. On a smaller scale, I often imagine how lovely it would be here in CA if everyone just stopped paying their auto registrations, fines, tickets, fees. That's BILLIONS the Sacramento La Raza Shithead Party wouldn't be able to get their hands on. Just unfuck ourselves from our Social Security Numbers.
There is a simple solution to the Grice problem. Adjust your tax witholding or quarterly estimated tax payments to insure you owe them money at the end of the year not the other way arround.
"those who refuse will be hauled off to prison at the point of a gun"
unless your name is Tim Geithner.
Tim's getting ready to go on a book tour with Bernanke (True) but promises he'll get around to paying his back taxes just as soon as he sells a few books (Not true). You figure out which part, not that it matters. As one of the Chosen he has been granted classical dispensationalism.
Didn't you guys get the memo? Your job is to punch the alarm clocks, fall in line, and keep funding the largest warfare and welfare state on the planet.
And I know you'll do it. Why? Because your other options are some sort of tragic murder/suicide, or federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison!
^ Cold truth.
You too you defeatist coward.
I have another option.....
Go fuck yourself!
Fuck you Feinstein.
A demon. Really.
The constitution?
Toilet paper.
1st Amendment, ok if you are officially sanctioned.
2nd Amendment. Who needs that. Only the government needs arms. Guess who they shoot at?
4th Amendment. It's ok to conduct warrantless wiretaps ... on them. On me, oh, its a different ball game.
Hey you nutless wonders in Cali. Crawl out your asses and vote that wonder out of existence.
This is one tribe member of a mother who should of really swallowed that night.
You forgot to mention form 8892.
Tell 'em Paulie sent ya!
We're all 21st Century slaves, every one of us. Look in the mirror, tell me if you don't see Soul Man. Bitches.
http://youtu.be/plsp4WUiTXE
Not sure why haters are hating on Simon Black. Everything he says seems true and correct.
I think many commenters are government-worshipping socialists at heart, trying to live off someone else. And some of them confuse 'love of country' with 'love of government' or get a patriotic thrill out of paying taxes. And some are basically anti-immigrant neocons and instantly salute anything military, patriotic or powerful - even the evil U.S. government...
I should add that there are many who think in "rich=evil, poor=good" class terms and resent anyone with more than they have, especially when they see that person getting away with something they can't have. Economic envy...
It isn't envy. For one thing, the rich and the poor are equally corrupt - its just that the rich have a large impact, not so much the poor - until they revolt. I personally could give a shit who has more or less - we all have the same thing when we leave this rock. I do give a damn about the rule of law, and that it be equally applied to both rich and poor. A fool's dream, but one must visualize betterr than we have if progress is to be made. But when a society is OK with a Dupont heir raping his own babies and not going to prison while incarcerating people for jaywalkiing, something's gotta give. Whatever the rhetoric, this sort of bullshit isn't sustainable. The rich have a social responsibility to better their own societies, and the poor have a responsibility to be part of that process-so long as their efforts stand a chance of lifting them from poverty. What we have now, on this rock, is a large population of whiners facing off with a large population of cheaters. Some old dog needs to run into the middle of that fracas and carry off the bone...
If a Constitutional Amendment is not legitimately ratified, is it still a Constitutional Amendment nearly 100 years later?
Simon is boring me to death with this crap.
You will find the authority for the Federal Income tax in the 3rd Organic Law of the United States of America. It is published in Volume 1 of the United States Code. The so-called 16th Amendment conferred no new powers of taxation. This legal fact can be proven by simply reading the amendment and noting that there is no enabling clause. Compare it to other amendments and note the difference. Once you understand the nature of the tax and the source of your PRESUMED Federal tax liablity, life is a bit easier. It is a Federal tax. You need to have a Federal liablity to be liable for the tax. Unfortunatly, lots of ignorant people send the Feds documemts claiming you have a Federal liablity - and you in ignorance confess as much on that Form 1040.
Most of us have been kept in the dark and fed bullshit. That will not change but you do have the power to start educating yourself. Knowlege can set you free.
"You need to have a Federal liablity to be liable for the tax."
???
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this argument on the IRS's list of "crappy arguments the courts have said we don't have to listen to"?
You have a problem with what the IRS is doing? You won't make the slightest dent with this approach. This is just a distraction. Are you paid to make these comments to confuse people? The IRS loves tax protestors! It knows just what to do with them. No problemo for the IRS.
No...there is only one thing to do with the IRS: KILL IT!
Elect senators and representatives who will sponsor and vote in favor of the FairTax (HR25/S122)
The men and women of the IRS say a lot of things but ignorance of the law is their primary weapon. Until you can name the 3rd Organic Law and state where the taxing authority is comes from in that law, you are easy pickings, "tax protestor" or not.
Epic 12 min rant by Stefan Molyneux.
Happy Tax Day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TpIDX49b_A
Taxation and the loss of buying power through inflation? The power to print and the power to have people hand their money to some institution through the power of the gun. What a deal! How do I get to have these wonderful powers? That sounds magical and sinister. Only the most vile or ignorant would ever believe in such shit.
Have signing authority over a company account? Does that account happen to reside somewhere outside the US? Welp, enjoy your fun mess! Disclose confidential company information that would get you fired at the least and most likely prosecuted, or... fail to disclose it and be a criminal. I guess you're suppossed to do the responsible thing and request the company demote you or lay you off.
Thank the rampant tax evasion for that one. If your country has the defective procedure that doesn't permit disclosure, then the problem rests solely with the country that makes disclosure a crime.
Taxation is theft. Tax collectors are theives.
Oh it's easy!
I offshored all my money by giving it to a watch salesman in Antwerp. He sells watches that look just like the real thing. I forgot his name and the last time I was there there was no kiosk (actually there was but they were selling Peruvian donky puppets). I had intended to make a deposit with the watch guy so I gave it to the puppet guy who doesn't speak english but I think he understood that I'd be back when I retire.
Anyway I can't fly and the kiosk doesn't have a phone so I've been checking google earth and mabey I can spot the watch guy. Boy will I give him a talking to! Say, Is there anybody out there who can hold my remaining money, you know, to keep it safe?
If you're desperate you can burn your money that way nobody gets it after all it's really, really dirty.
The problem once again, is not any abbreviated department's name, not the IRS, not the NSA, or the FBI or the FED.
Once again, the only problem, the one insoluble problem that will never be corrected in our lifetimes (maybe in 2470, maybe) is the "United" States.
The only real problem occurred in 1861 when the Tyrants Lincoln and Davis could not agree to settlement of the issue of Secession by a dozen southern states.
Had that simple solution been allowed to go forward there would be on this part of the North American continent about a dozen different countries that formed around a cohesive form of self-government, each entity governing itself.
Centralization, mi amigos, has been the central thesis of all that plagues us, and I don't foresee Texas, or New Hampster, or Californica breaking away from the so called "united" States.
When and until--- if ever --- other countries have the courage and the might to disassociate, deconstruct themselves from the juggernaut that is the Swamp on the Potomac, then notihng much is ever going to change that favors the human beans--- 99.9% of them.
Until then all the rest of these anecdotes are just conversation.
All that has a nice sort of ring to it, but all you're really advocating is the dispersal of bureaucratic institutions, which would result in more confusion and waste, not less. People who live in nations (artificial constructs) with populations in the millions have no idea why nations with a hundred thousand or so stay poor. You cannot build a strong nation without centralized authority and taxes, and enough population to make those two substantial. Many small nations are no better than feudal Europe or China were - all war and no Kulcha!
The problem is less the political construct than the society who ushers fools, tyrants and greedy bastards into power and then relies upon lies to perpetuate the cycle. We will do no better under any system yet devised until we evolve past allowing greed and violence to be the deciding factors in how we are governed.
As my ole friend Eliphas wrote in 1854, "There has yet been devised no method for doing anything which cannot be bungled by the inept."
In concept, you are right but only to a point. The Scandinavian countries come to mind. Homogenous, and relatively at peace, unable to conquer the world, and no inclination to do so. Manageable.
They are by comparison may tiny nations that seem to run with some semblance of order. Many with less people than Pennsylvania, with Sovereignty and allied with others to get what they need.
I maintain that no matter what entity you want to name, SIZE in population matters. There is a tipping point to size and our Lincoln and Davis hit it when South Carolina decided to part ways.
And the more dispersed the population of a nation like ours is, and the more diverse that it is, in culture, language, dissimilar customs, and 'ways' of handling things, the more opportunity exists for fraud, deceit, and chaos that only profits the governors and---in ours----in the Quadrillions of missing dollars.
If you consider the governors of our country as inept, you are deluding yourself and Eliphas is completely irrelevant. They know exactly what they ar doing and for whom they are doing it.
And as my ole amigo, confrere, and buddster, Jorge Carlin once said, "it's big club and you aint' in it"!
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Paying taxes is voluntary. Harry Reid said so. http://www.thematrixnot.blogspot.com/2009/03/paying-taxes-is-voluntary.h...
And he is correct, speaking from the perspective of a Senator and representative of the United States of America in Congress assembled. See Volume 1 of the United States Code, in particular the 1st Organic Law.