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Something tells us this will not get as much footage as the infamous "tank man" stand off on Tiananmen Square.
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Tank you very much....
if Ukrainian troops won't kill their own people to please the banker overlords, the U.S. and NATO will be more than happy to spread some bombs of freedom to get the serfs back under the jack boot of the cartel.
right, ukrainian troops won't. but putin's bitches certainy would. they have and they will
I peeked inside that tank, think i just saw the US economy
Coming to a US city near you...
Please reference an incident.
We've put Putin into a position where he gets to be the good guy. He's not going to wander outside out of that role so long as we keep on acting as we keep on acting as we are.
Yeah, it's almost like they are on the same side. Like Obama is working for Putin. Like Obama is a traitor. Or something.
For what it's worth, here is the email I just shot off to the National Editor at the NYT:
Remember the guy who stopped a tank in China? How about posting this clip showing the east Ukrainians talking a Ukrainian army tank commander into stopping his approach to Slavyansk?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDcQTBYY4kE
By the way, this also shows the pitiful condition the Ukrainian army’s tanks are in currently – notice the engine dies a total of four times before the commander shakes hands and shuts it down for good.
Speaking of what arms the pro-democracy forces (those opposed to the illegal CIA-orchestrated neo-Nazi coup in Kiev) have in the east of the Ukraine, note the use of a shoulder-fired SAM to down this Ukrainian helicopter.
You should post this – at least they, unlike the US, are willing to stop the Nazis from returning to power in Europe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvVGA3SLFQw
Kenneth
Did those guys steal that fucking tank? Where did they think they were going, and where were they coming from? Who is the jackass that ordered them to go somewhere across country under these circumstances, alone, without infantry / security? OMFG.
And I can't help but notice: Holy Soil Pressure, Batman! Ah, armor in the spring fields. Why did the tank commander drive it into a gulley where the soil is even wetter?
"By the way, this also shows the pitiful condition the Ukrainian army’s tanks are in currently – notice the engine dies a total of four times before the commander shakes hands and shuts it down for good."
Always make sure your T-72 was built BEFORE the Stolichnaya ration day.
I think is T64...
yes is old, but even older T55 was deployed against Georgia and "advisors" and they ran for their lives..
depends who is run it and maintenance...
obviously this tank worn down and not maintained...
crew probably relieved that Lada Niva did not take them out....
The tank crew are just poor conscripts, send by the Kiev Kriminals. They want no part of this, killing fellow Ukrainians.
Yes agree
If you like your oppressors, you can keep your oppressors.
Thanks for posting. Must have been tough to be here 4 years and just start posting in March?
pods
-- Soilmyselfrotten --
Hmm, Gov'mint trolls seem to have a bizarre bodily waste fetish. Strange indeed.
did you read his posts?
didnt sound very trollish to me.
Is there a special name for .gov trolls?
I wonder how many more of these dormant accounts they have in stock.
I would imagine thousands, if not more. Cost nothing to create and seasoned accounts on message boards have actual monetary value.
The preponderance of 4 year members with no record of posting is increasing rapidly.
Well, all you can do IMO is rate each statement on its own merits without trying to guess motivation or history too much. (Unless they have a long obvious history of being douche bags.)
Most of us know that we can argue and down arrow someone's statements and on the very next topic might agree with them and give them up arrows.
All part of Fight Club.
Duke it out with your buddy in the ring one moment, and drink beers with him the next moment.
Strengthens everyone's logical, argumentative, and persuasion skills. And that's good in these times.
When they come up with b.s., - that's good. Can tear them a new one via your keyboard. And then use what you learn from the experience to inform others.
That's true. But it's also useful to try to spot .gov trolls, since they have admited they use them increasingly. Then nothing prevents you from agreing with a troll once in a while :)
And thus you can see they seem to always use same techniques, following some kind of playbook. For example they use the relativization technique ("it's always been like this", "are you a moron? everyone knows this already", "the other guy is worse", etc.). They also use the scarecrow technique very much ("this is what Sarah Palin says, so you're like her?").
Maybe we can reverse engineer their training manual, and then compare our findings with the copies that will inevitably leak sooner or later :)
@jefferson32 -- good points made
I think the best methods to use, no matter what the source of the b.s., are those that have been around since the ancient Greeks and are well proven. Gathering of evidence, use of logic to spot inconsistencies, and a sound argument to communicate your views effectively to others. These are also the methods of the Trivium which can be researched on the web.
Sounds like you're familiar with the tools for spotting logical fallacies since you mentioned several of them:
Appeal to tradition, Ad Hominem Attack, combination Strawman argument/Ad Hominem attack, etc
Know these methods and b.s. doesn't stand a chance, and they usually resort to emotionalism which is also easily dealt with.
These methods are taught to the children of the so-called 'elites' in private prep schools. They are not taught in public or most private schools to the majority of the population.
Doesn't matter - - - one can learn them on their own.
@oddjob The preponderance of 4 year members with no record of posting is increasing rapidly.
I think its because when they censor people who speak their minds they end up with no people commenting and they have to fill in the void besides the core users.
We're gonna have to start up a sock-puppet list in order to track all of these D.O.D. contractors.
I smelled something funny because he said BITCHES.
We all know it's BITCHEZ.
idk, I checked my history and it only went back a couple months though. I'd like to give others the benefit of the doubt but man I see a lot of new names everyday.
I'm too old to ferret this shit out anymore.
:)
pods
MANY OF US ARE HERE, WATCHING, LISTENING, AND KNOWING THAT THE NSA, IRS, CIA AND WHO KNOWS ELSE ARE ALSO WATCHING. SINCE THIS IS ALL BEING RECORDED FOR USE AGAINST US AT A LATER DATE, IT KINDA SUPPRESSES THAT WHOLE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS THING, WHICH IS THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN THE FIRST INSTANCE. UNLESS YOU FEEL ABSOLUTELY COMPELLED TO POST, IT IS PRUDENT TO SIMPLY EDUCATE YOURSELF AND PREPARE QUIETLY FOR WHAT IS COMING.
I WAS TALKING TO ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES YESTERDAY AND I TOLD HIM THAT 10 YEARS AGO, WHEN I WAS TELLING EVERYONE HOW IMMORAL ATTACKING IRAQ "WOULD BE" "IF WE DID IT" THE RESPONSE WAS OVERWHELMINGLY 'ROO RAH RAH AMERICA" WE NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD, DEFEND FREEDOM, DEMOCRACY, SELF DETERMINATION AND OPEN THE WORLD FOR CHRISTIANITY. I WAS FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE THEN. NOW, PEOPLE SEE HOW SHAMEFUL OF A NATION WE HAVE BECOME. NOW, I DO NOT KNOW ANYONE WHO CHAMPIONS AMERICA. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.
WE CREATED THE UNREST IN UKRAINE THROUGH THE CIA, WE THEN SANCTION RUSSIA WHICH HURTS OUR BUSINESSES AND THE DOLLAR, WE THEN GIVE A LOAN GUARANTEE FOR UKRAINE TO PAY RUSSIA FOR GAS. WTF? THE IRS THROUGH THE DOJ PENALIZES UBS, AG FOR ASSISTING AMERICA WITH TAX EVASION TO THE TUNE OF $700M, THEN HANDS THE BANK $700M TAXPAYER MONEY IN TARP. WTF? THE GOVERNMENT ACTS CONSISTENTLY AGAINST THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE US POPULATION AND ANYONE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING HERE. OUR FOREIGN POLICY IS SO FUCKED UP, IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL. I WOULD VOTE FOR PUTIN FOR PRESIDENT BEFORE I WOULD VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. IS HE CORUPT, OF COURSE, ARE WE CORUPT, OF COURSE, BUT THE HYPOCRISY IN AMERICA HAS ALMOST BECOME MORE THAN I CAN BEAR.
SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS, COMPUTER ISSUE TODAY.
answered 4 years ago
Um, if your CAPS LOCK is toggled on and you press SHIFT, the effect is reversed... elementary my dear Watson, and that is if you CANT get it right...pull it off if it's a laptop, it comes off easily but make sure you pull it off kind of perpendicularly to the keyboard... so it doesn't break and then see if there's some rubbish jamming the inner key... if there isn't, well you've got to live with using SHIFT for lower case...A better alternative is, Launch the Start Menu>All programs>Accessories>Accessibily>On Screen Keyboard and launch it. Once it appears, click the CAPS LOCK button in it and Eureka!
Extremely elementary my dear Watson...
Was that necessary? How do you know what the problem is on his end?
it was a copy and paste, not my wording.
im a little lost as to how to answer your question. i shouldnt try to be helpful? is that what you are saying?
a few people seem to agree with you, and im not getting it.
Being pedantic comes to mind.
for starters, i had to look that word up.
ill do my best to keep the Hedge trimmed.
In the US corruption is the norm in terms of law-making in Washington (same in many other countries of course).
The reason our leaders have no incentive to do what’s right for the American people is that our interests are essentially irrelevant to them. They’re elected with huge campaign contributions from corporate interests, and then, when they’re no longer in office, they often become lobbyists in the industries that they served while in Washington. As long as this remains the case, we would be very foolish to expect fair-minded, responsible lawmaking to support the true needs of the people.
The first thing to do here, it seems to me, is to overturn the U.S. Supreme Court decision “Citizens United,” which enables corporations to spend as much as they want to influence our elections in whatever direction they choose.
Happy Tax Day!
BITCHEZ ;~)
Relieved I bailed out of volunteering my hard earned fiat dollars to that corrupt organization, years ago. I mean, when one thinks about it, it just doesn't make sense. Chronically bitiching about the morbid terror promoted by a Military Industrial Complex gone wild, and on the other hand, ironically, diredtly participating in the funding of it.
"We're gonna have to start up a sock-puppet list in order to track all of these D.O.D. contractors."
do me favour and add the russian government sock-puppets as well, will you?
Russia’s Former Spooks Invest In Social Networking Propaganda Bots
Russian authorities spend 30 million rubles on social networks monitoring
Facespook: Russian spies order $1mln software to influence social networks
"The auctions on research under the code names Storm-12, Monitor-3 and Dispute were held in January and February 2012. The texts of the three tasks name military unit No. 54939 as the customer looking to develop programs to “study the intelligence methods of Internet centers and regional segments of social networks” (code Dispute) for 4.41 million rubles, “research secret methods of controlling the Internet” (code Monitor-3) for 4.99 million rubles, as well as to conduct research work to develop a “means of distributing specific information in social networks” (code Storm-12) for 22.8 million rubles. All three projects are closely related."
quite similar to us Operation Earnest Voice by contractor Ntrepid
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
Not Boris??? say it isn't so...
How did that profile pic sneak in under the radar?
It has been very tough... also, when I check my post history nothing comes up so it might just be ZH's search functionality... I've posted about a comment a quarter for a couple years.
To me, the comments are what makes ZH. The articles are fantastic but the community is where I find most of the interesting thoughts/ideas. It is nice to know that there are still people that think.
just paste this into google:
site:zerohedge.com mortiis
This appears to be your first posting, back in 2010: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/exclusive-second-whistleblower-emerges-...
I'd like to give a shout out to out friends from HBGary Federal!
let me get my jcb so i can pull them out of the mud....
I feel sorry for that tank crew, they are toast the minute real fighting starts. Those dudes in the Piss Yella SUV were running circles around them.
60 ton tanks and the wet Ukrainian bog don't mix very well. recovering that beasty might have to wait till first winter freeze. lol
if i had the time, i would speed that up x3 and lay a Yakety Sax audio track in the background.
but as it is, im happy to watch BumbleBee vs. Tank.
"Autobots, roll out!"
We need more civilians confronting tank operators like uncles reprimanding misbehaving nephews. We need that very badly in this world.
The Ukranians need some of Harry Reid's BLM guys - they have no problem shooting their own citizens.
That's simply racist. What we all need to learn is that the New Bolsheviks are special and that they own us and that we need to do their bidding at all costs. /sarc
This is the reason why they enrolled the bloodthirsty American mercenaries...
huh ? double post ? why ? and I cant delete.
Somthing about his wifes Bratwusrtkinozk...
These people know what's going on. They know they're fucked under NATO and the EU. That all of their assets will be sold off to the New Bolsheviks and hundreds of billions in debt will be dumped on them. Their military have not been rained upon by SSRI's and other nasty elements that turn them into the psycho killers that we just witnessed working for the BLM in the Bundy standoff.
+1,000.
Is it just me or does the NATO logo look like a swastika?
"Russian separatists" are occupying the wrong buildings. They should go to Kiev in their thousands and overthrow the regime just like the thugs now in power did. That was acceptable to the U.S. and EU. So, it would be difficult for them to denounce East Ukrainians for doing exactly the same thing.
but they are not. its individual efforts in the outlying towns.
i was thinking the same thing. why not gather and go to the source of the mayhem.
i think Kiev is going to be the final "battle".
That was the bet of the West. That's why they sent all of their reporters to Kiev hoping to witness formation of pretext for foreign intervention. They know nothing of geography, ethnicity or history. All they know is that countries have borders and capitals - whatever they figure by looking at the world map for 10 seconds.
In reality, the issues are complex, the people are complex and thanks to the internet, its gets harder to spread ignorance and set brothers against eachother. Sure, old tricks still work. Nationalism and patriotism still strike a cord with many, but things are improving.
I mean, look at all the bankers "offing themselves". If that's the case then we ought to be doing something right. Let's raise that record to 100 bankers a month and then we'll be on the right track.
With each unanswered provocation, whith each shell not fired, there's somebody head's waiting to get chopped off, a sour bet, a failed investment, a lost gamble, an underwarter leveraged deal, a stale HFT algo... and eventually a dead banker who failed to set his designated MIC gear in motion.
do you have any examples for your "fucked under NATO and the EU"?
both are clubs with an exit door, where members can leave. example: France left the NATO, long time ago. and then re-entered it. the UK is mulling about leaving the EU
just keep this in mind while you are cheering for the Eastern Merry Band, then up to now it's a club without explicit exit options
Greece comes to mind immediately. They've `benefitted' from EU membership. For sure. LOL.
I'm telling ya. The coup of all time will be for Putin to create the ABF, Anti-Bolshevik Federation, wherein they rid themselves of all the Rothschildrelated debt, have a gold-backed real currency and disallow any dual-citizen from holding any public office. Get Germany onboard and the last one out holds all the Rothschild debt.
have you any knowledge about what your are talking about? has the sovereign debt that Greece loaded up anything to do with it's EU membership? except that banks worldwide were willing to grant it cheaply? tell me, would Greece exiting EU and/or NATO in any way estinguish that debt? you seem to have some trouble with logic, pal
Look clown. I've forgotten more about what is going on than you will ever know. Know anyone in Euro land that is happy with being saddled with literally trillions in bad bank debt? Been to Ireland? Know where it is? How about Italy? How are they liking their `elected' GS government?
I live and work in the eurozone. do you? Ireland? What about that? Do you want to give the blame to the EU for criminal bankers? Italy? Have you missed the fact that Italy has a new government, headed by Matteo Renzi, the darling leader of the PD? Perhaps you have forgotten too much, including stuff you never knew
What you seem to miss, or are paid to miss, is that the EU is corrupt bankers. Who are all the technocrats being placed, not elected, into power? GS execs. Get it yet?
What is needed is decentralization and what the world is getting is centrallization as that is what benefits the money owners. People are getting it and the purge is beginning. Keep pumping out the centralization myths but you're a fade.
"the EU is corrupt bankers" is exactly the half baked wrong meme that leads you to misunderstand all this
a few factoids: the EU legislated a banker bonus cap. GS is based in the US. the EU is centralization of a select number of policy fields
and I doubt you understand what "technocrat" really means. again, is the current Italian PM a technocrat?
you take the super-centralized example of the current US, which has gone beyond federalism into near-unitary state and compare it with a proto-confederation like the EU, where power, military, intelligence, etc. still mostly resides in the nation-state
if you think I'm pumping the centralization myth then you have not understood me, or the reality of european situation
The middle class has become nearly eroded in the Southern Europe. Unless you think 25% unemployment rate is a success story, stfu.
are you sure we are talking there about the middle class?
has the sovereign debt that Greece loaded up anything to do with it's EU membership? except that banks worldwide were willing to grant it cheaply?
Except for that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
if I move to the US and "build up a good credit rating" I'd get a shitload of personal credit through cards, etc. which I would not get without US residency
for all purposes, is the US the "guilty party" if I rack up huge debts "because it's cheap and available" and then have problems with paying? just asking
You disingenuous prick. The EU is perpetuating Greece's misery by bribing its 'leaders' with tiny amounts of money while the bulk of the 'bailouts' are going back to pay EU bankers.
Greeks governments bribed themselves without the help of the EU. Goldman Sachs is not "EU bankers", btw
and the biggest sponsors of the Greek reshuffling of debts aren't organized along EU lines, it's a select number of eurozone countries that made a deal which, besides many other quirks, requests payments only starting from 2017 on
you guys still don't have a clue what the EU is and is not. you are still using the wrong meme that the EU "is something like the US"
No, on an individual basis it is not. The problem is the individual will pay for bad decisions where the bank, corporation or union gets bailed out and is in effect rewarded for their poor decisions. This is where the system goes awry and as long as we allow the same people to stay in charge throgh each confilct/financial crisis we can not expect our conditions to change.
You're kidding, right?
sure. as kidding as with this little factoid: you know who underwrote most CDSs on Greek Sovereign Debt? Greek Banks
hellooo? Am I the only one here that remembers that the Vampire Squid helped the Greek Government to hide it's debt with derivatives?
do I have to link all the ZH articles about that?
what the freaking damn FUCK has the EU to do with this action of Goldman Sachs and the Greek Government? too little scrutiny in the affairs of a sovereign member?
But who is the EU? It's GS! Who are all the technocrats that are put into power in euroland? GS execs. Getting it yet?
I really can't figure out if you're trolling or if you are really this disconnected.
A real mystery.
It's a fine art but as reality picks up speed, their cheap paint jobs begin to crack and peel off rapidly.
No, but it has a lot to do with the EU itself, and the entities it is allied with.
Actually it would, because then they would also be rejecting the autonomy of central bankers over the finances of their country through their more local counterparts. Whether it would be moral or not, and whether it is the fault of the Greek people who chose to live beyond their means is a different issue.
Yes, just like people in the Western regime can vote and elect their leaders...
You are the proove that sheeple will never understand how debt slavery and Plutocracies work over decades and centuries...
No sh!t. There are still WAY too many people that actually believe "democratically elected" politicians are actually representing the people's interests, that their party is better than the other party & falling for the classic divide & conquer propaganda used by controllers for millennia. They usually also think the actions of these elected goons & the total sum of the government's actions is completely the fault of the people who also totally agree with everything they do & therefore the debt of their government is on them to repay. When reality is most don't agree with most of their government's actions & none agree with the vast debt. There are many who agree with the programs that create this debt, but most only support these because of the propaganda pushed through a virtual monopoly of media outlets by the same controllers who work with or are owned by the banksters & the fed. If the people were educated on the deceitful conspiring goings on of the super rich, the way most nation's monetary systems are run & how they use this economic control to blackmail & bribe politicians they would surely not feel these government programs worthy. But the brainwashing & bribery has run so deep that it has become a self fulfilling prophecy. Weather you're on welfare or you work for any number of redundant useless government agencies, both will fight tooth & nail to keep their meal ticket rolling in no matter if it will eventually doom them & their children along with the rest of the world to serfdom as a debt slave.
Let's see what happens if Latvia decides to leave nato, to de-dollarize its reserves and foreign trade, to institute free banking, and to propose an international enquiry into 911 (and another one on the apartheid in Palestine).
How many examples do you want?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/customers-at-cyprus-bigge...
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101300969
http://sixthcolumn.typepad.com/duckwalls/2009/07/news-blackout-of-car-bu...
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/world/europe/africans-battered-and-...
Walk around with a bag over your head?
The EU is an immigrant pig farm doomed to bankruptcy, it's a "non-state" without citizens, its got tenants.
"Exit options" eh?
Ever have a chance, you might wanna ask Robert E Lee-one helluva a Virginian BTW, just exactly how well that "exit option" worked out
Who are you shooting at dude?
That tank is a piece of garbage.
them T-32's are something special.
'specially with the covers on the barrel.
So what do 1932 tanks, 1939 battleships and 2014 aircraft carriers have in common?
They're all obsolete?
They are probably out of fuel- waiting for the check to clear from the US banker overlords.
It needs a ring job big time. Probably burns more oil than diesel.
in the us, the DHS tank would have went full speed over the people
got that right.
We can thank Big Pharma and the Rockefellers for that fact.
Soldiers are the biggest dupes known to man.
Nowadays, in America...
Many abused (by abused parents) as children, raised on violent video games, texting, coca cola and gmo junk food, follow that up with either (or both) Rx and non-Rx drugs, add to the mix steroids and, some anger imprinting to their now easily malleable mush minds, and, voilà, ideal military matierial. Then, after they've been chewed on, assimilated and regurgitated back out on the street, with no one to turn to, for many with damaged and deranged minds, suicide becomes their only alternative. Sad commentary on the casualties of those who spread Americas infectious "freedom" and "democracy" to other sovereign countries.
Suicide or the Police Force for the non-suicidal whack jobs.
I agree...good post
Citizens militia is the only soldier in America doing honourable work in the US right now.
I wish I knew what they were saying....
What are they trying to do in the tank?
Translation from YouTube commentor:
"Tank rides in Slavyansk. People stop him. "Turn off the engine," "you're going to shoot anybody? Why'd gun raised?" "get out of the tank," "what is your mission?" "You want our guys in Slavyansk to shoot?" "Do not touch him"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-15/ukraine-launches-military-opera...
My Russian/Ukrianian is a bit rusty but I think I heard:
"Hey get off my fucking lawn! I just had that sod laid last week!"
Hope that helps.
me too.. and just had the first UN sanctioned global warming snow of summer..
hope they missed the underground sprinker heads...
"I wish I knew what they were saying...."
You're ruining my fucking grass!!!
free lawn aeration and grub treatment
or why they didnt light up the beach with that 50 cal?
or why only one of them showed up, and with no infantry support?
my guess is its there to get blowed up.
Yes, could be the sacrificial lamb to get the whole Ukrainian army rolling against the 'killers of our brave tank crew'.
Blyat!!!!!
All official russian chanels in one place:
http://live.russia.tv
Looks more like a Soviet circus than a civil war.
Bullshit! CNN doesn't show anything and in a link (it doesn't make to the front page), there is an anti-terrorist op going on. This is what makes news today: Sonar sub's hunt cut short (on the missing airplane).
this just in, Emmanuel Goldstein spotted in Ukraine attempting to overthrow the lawfully coup created government in Kiev with Arch devil Putin's backing... terrorists, all of them.
We need to learn how to do this in US. Also please provide drone skeet shooting seminars as well. Americans are out of practice, been along time since the civil war and due to new influx of worthless politicians, NWO invasions, central banker tyrants, etc.. this helps. Study hard, we are "on deck".
The rallying cry in Kiev:
Nudelman! Nudelman! Nudelman!
Zee Nuland!
Is Brennan getting this? LMFAO.
Qucik, send the link to Jon Stewart and Jimmy Kimmel! See how they play it.
I just love the little yellow car, outmanuevering the tank. Hilarious !!
LADA NIVA....
They could out manuever or squash the car even in that old shitty tank but there is mother bear at hand
Nyet...did you not see the video? Tank was fighting bog...Lada Niva can glide on that
I had a Niva for a couple of years. It was a tough unsophisticated piece of pig iron that could go anywhere. I think they came out of some old 60's Fiat designs like the Lada cars did (had a couple of those too).
this will not get as much footage
The US press exists for pure propaganda. Tiananmen Square reflected badly on the Chinese and made the front page of every US newspaper. The Donetsk standoff reflects well on the courage of Russians who want some measure of autonomy from Kiev. So this will be blacked out in US media as were all stories by Seymour Hersh about Obama lying about sarin in Syria. The New York Times adamantly refused to carry the story that the NSA hands over all data it collects on Americans over to Israel without any legal restrictions.
"The New York Times adamantly refused to carry the story that the NSA hands over all data it collects on Americans over to Israel without any legal restrictions."
Thats really the Jew York Times from Jew York City, how could they run a story like that to spoil the little project for their capital in Tel Aviv.
They should have taken up a collection of pocket change and offered to buy their tank from them.
i will give you many Kopeks for t-64 Bulat with 5 cylinder engine, what a total piece of shit.
Wonder if the USEPA is freaking out by the air pollution generated by that piece of junk.
The unelected neo-Nazi regime in Kiev is now killing Ukrainian civilians. This will at the very least be a civil war, and quite likely Russia will intervene to stop the bloodshed.
They will be blamed, no doubt
Tracerfan, your "unelected neo-Nazi regime in Kiev" is quite unfactual
independently from any partisanship in the matter, the current previously elected parliament appointed the current government in Kiev
and no, if you study the cabinet composition, you'll find plenty of former ministers, a few technical appointees (aka technocrats, for example the career diplomat that is the acting foreign minister), and no neo-Nazis
The parliament appointed them at gun point of the Neofascists. Nearly 100 people were killed by western backed snipers. And they didn't have the constitutional right to do that anyway. If the elected president was so unpopular with the parliament, why did they not simply impeach him?
independently from any partisanship in the matter
lol
I hope whatever it is you're being paid for spewing this garbage is worth it.
He IS PAID WELL, (if you see the hours that he puts in here) He is churning propaganda in favour of that ILLUSION OF A CURRENCY the Euro ( his Avatar), he regularly says things that even British Propagandists (They are the Best) will be proud of him.
Ghordius, your avatar's a dead giveaway.
Please save us Mr. Obama with some smoothing words and Please Mr. Kerry let me see you with every hair on your head so perfectly in place. I sleep better at night knowing both of you are standing guard.
What a piece of shit--the tank, not the car.
The armour plates are buckled. One good RPG shot and its over.
I think is T64...
Georgians and "advisors" ran from even older T55 of Vostok and Zapad Battalions Chechen..
abandoned tons of brand new taxpayer supplied stuff....very much appreciated by victors..
I am sure those tank operators know exactly what happened to Georgian tanks in the Georgian/Russian war in 2008, they must have their pats full.
One Iskander strike took out one of Georgia's elite tank brigades right at it's base, they were in the process of moving out to the front. Russian intelligence noted the pending move and used cluster bomb warheads on Iskanders to eliminate them. Little is said about this by the west, for obvious reasons. But it is fact.
and Bush 0bama let the Georgians get slaughtered because they refused to supply any anti-tank weapons, that in spite of US promises to protect Georgia.
Vietnam set the bar to enable our Politicians watch our soldiers die because it is politically inconvenient to support them
Georgians had antitank..tons of new, and trained by "advisors" who all still alive abandoned equipment and ran..
Was gifted to Ossetians...
The Russian propaganda always starts with '...and they all ran away...' - BS
well, not all...many was dead...but other reversed from killing civilians and arrived Tiblishi awful quick....
read the accounts
Yes..."That Was No Small War in Georgia" Mark Ames Radar Magazine
http://www.alternet.org/comments/story/112457/that_was_no_small_war_in_g...
Suka!!!!!
Fuck me where did they dig up that piece of armoury. No first place in the annual Slovyansk
straight line furrowing competition.
All I understood was "blyet" <sp> and I don't even really know what that means other than a generic curse. I will say that the yellow car driver has some stones on him.
someone ask me for link in another treat,about info,that 27 saylors resign from Donald Cook,after fake attack from su 24.here you go the link,sorry i have only russian version,you can try google translate
http://politikus.ru/events/16999-pentagon-priznal-chto-imitaciya-ataki-su-24-na-esminec-vms-ssha-proizvela-demoralizuyuschiy-effekt-na-ekipazh-korablya.html
Thanks valkir. This from Google Translate:
"The Pentagon acknowledged that imitation Su-24 attack on the U.S. Navy destroyer produced a demoralizing effect on the crew. 27 crew members of the destroyer filed resignation. Commenting on their actions, they said they did not intend to expose their lives to danger.
The Pentagon on Monday issued a statement in which he asserts that the Russian Su-24 bomber on Saturday flew several times near the U.S. Navy destroyer Donald Cook in the Black Sea and at the same time several times simulated combat attack.
According to the agency Reuter Pentagon spokesman Col. Steven Warren, twelve times a Russian bomber flew at low altitude near the U.S. destroyer. He called these maneuvers frightening and unacceptable, as it demoralizes the staff of the ship and the negative impact on the general psychological climate in the military.
Warren noted that the destroyer patrolled the waters of the Black Sea in the west, when the incident occurred. According to him, the ship is safe in the Romanian port, where he was immediately evacuated. Members of the crew are necessary procedures psychologist to recover after suffering stress.
"Donald Cook" - third in a row, U.S. Navy ship that was sent to the Black Sea for the last time. Earlier, the U.S. had already sent into the waters of the sea missile frigate Taylor, but the ship ran aground off the Black Sea coast of Turkey, because of what was not able to continue to fulfill its mission.
According to international maritime treaties American ships could not located in the Black Sea for more than 14 days, and the excess of this period gives the legal right to make a Russian missile attack ships and destroy data, without declaring war, the United States. Knowing about such a possibility, the crew members and commanders American ships naturally fear for their lives. Although the Pentagon promised to raise the sums insured servicemen from 1 ppm. to 3 ppm., it is still very few people quiet as to survive in the open sea, and then get the insurance payment few chances, but the dead do not need money.
In consequence of this crew "Donald Cook" was forced to sail to the shortage of personnel, and the dismissal of 27 other crew members, behind which may be followed by others, jeopardizes the continued successful execution of the task."
There are no links to where this article got its information so I am skeptical for now.
Those sailors fear that they wonT be able to collect their retirement.
Now they can get PTSD disability, since that flyby was so scary.
You're assuming the US military recognizes PTSD.........
"...so I am skeptical for now."
Um, yeah. Enlisted personnel can't "resign".
Good point - missed that one.