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Martin Armstrong Warns American Civil Unrest Is Starting Right On Schedule

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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics blog,

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We have been warning that 2014 is the beginning of a new cycle that will see a highly unusual convergence between our domestic (civil unrest & revolution) data and our international war model. Both converge for the first time since the 1700s when there were US and French Revolutions and the fall of monarchy. This was the topic at our Cycle of War Conference (see also special report).

The civil unrest will develop first outside the USA and turn up more aggressively in the USA after 2015.75. Nonetheless, it still begins in 2014 for the USA as well. We are starting to see this in the West where memories of previous events still linger deep wounds from 1992.

Nevada-Protest

 

The confrontation in Nevada between Clive Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has turned into an issue of important cycle unrest. The government wants the land and demands Bundy gets his cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations. This dispute between a Nevada rancher and federal rangers over alleged illegal cattle grazing erupted into an Old West-style showdown on the open range this week, even prompting self-proclaimed members of militia groups from across the country to join the rancher in fighting what they say is U.S. “tyranny.”

Ruby-Ridge

This is a brewing resentment of federal government that goes back to Ruby Ridge, which was the site of a deadly confrontation and siege in northern Idaho in 1992 between Randy Weaver, his family and his friend Kevin Harris, and agents of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). It resulted in the death of Weaver’s son Sammy, his wife Vicki, and Deputy U.S. Marshal William Francis Degan. The Feds simply shot his unarmed family dead and it was alleged they even shot his son in the back. This is indeed the continued militarization of the police in America. The corruption was so bad in Ukraine that when someone saw the police, they trembled in fear. In the US, this trend is also underway and demonstrated by this video where the police began shooting at a minivan driven by a woman with children in the car over a traffic violation.

 

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Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:20 | 4667494 VD
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BRING IT! (& take the criminal IRS and Fed out while you're at it!)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:24 | 4667505 Two-bits
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Long axes and landscape timbers.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:26 | 4667518 CH1
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Just stop obeying them!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:36 | 4667557 chumbawamba
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Thanks, Sunshine Patriot.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4667585 ZerOhead
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No good can come from this "showdown".

None.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4667601 NoTTD
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Good.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4667617 ZerOhead
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And don't forget to apply for your Federal tomato, bean and potatoe planting permits for the spring planting season.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:53 | 4667628 chumbawamba
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It won't matter because I wasn't able to get a permit to collect my rainwater run-off, and I can't otherwise water my garden because the city shut off my service when I couldn't pay the bill.  I plan on eating old shoe leather and bark instead.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:07 | 4667657 ZerOhead
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If you were Ukrainian and it was a Russian water company that you weren't paying your government would see to it that your water would be back on already.

P.S.  The bark will require permits next year...

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4667698 One of We
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Could the good US.gov please engage the IMF with replentishments for the pantry which is sadly depleted of the Russian vodka?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667707 Keyser
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You know there is a problem when there are more Americans killed by the police than died in the Iraqi war...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/increasing-police-brutality-americans-kille...

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:20 | 4667737 VD
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fukn pigz

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:41 | 4667804 Anusocracy
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So you're the one spreading porcine epidemic diarrhea virus.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4667824 chumbawamba
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

VD, you sad fag, you just got BLESSED BITCH.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667870 VD
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chumbza u ride my jock so hard, even in comments section. ur love for my VD is insatiable! open wide...........

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:01 | 4667887 chumbawamba
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I'll let the down arrows speak for me.

I am Chumbawamba.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:51 | 4668651 negative rates
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He is chubmawamba, and I am not.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:03 | 4667901 Ralph Spoilsport
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LOL! Holy shit, did ZH chat break¿¿¿

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:50 | 4668649 negative rates
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No, but the cops on the street are about to get a wake up call.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:20 | 4667738 VD
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fukn pigz

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:31 | 4667772 NuckingFuts
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Good enough for a "doubler"

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:43 | 4668641 Frankie Carbone
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I'd pause and think about that first. That IMF loan for a bottle of vodka will eventually cost you your house, your car and 5 years salary in interest payments. 

NOW do you want a drink?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 03:56 | 4668554 Tengri Temujin
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I hear in Washington state they were talking of putting water meters on people's home wells to generate extra income, how outrageous is that.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 07:42 | 4668763 CH1
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Thanks, Sunshine Patriot.

You don't know me, sweetheart.

I am Chumbawamba.

And in this case, the voice of compliance.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:52 | 4667844 Cannon Fodder
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You go first,...

 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 07:43 | 4668769 CH1
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You go first...

Lots of us already have.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:34 | 4667546 Ralph Spoilsport
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Everyone should read this:

http://taxicabdepressions.com/?p=1193

“These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are fucking around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 100 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:41 | 4667579 chumbawamba
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Thanks, Ralph.

Anyone who wants to feel their heart ripped out of their chest, listen to Bill Cooper (RIP) read a transcript from the Randy Weaver trial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnmeB9m3dQM

If you want to understand what happened at the Bundy Ranch and why, put aside two hours and click on that link.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4667603 chumbawamba
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Here's a brief snippet of an interview of Gerry Spence, the man who defended Randy Weaver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMm3ry1HqBc

The law as I see it today is severely broken and does not offer anything except an empty promise of "liberty and justice for all".

Please listen to other interviews of him if you want to hear some very uncomfortable truths about the American legal system.  Though anyone who has been through it already knows.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:19 | 4667729 XitSam
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A lawyer once told me, "Murder trials are not about justice, they are about points of law."

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667704 seek
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Wow, that's a freaking time machine for me. I remember listening to this live in the early 90s.

Don't completely agree with Cooper on all things, but I can thank him for getting me into AU at $260.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:34 | 4667771 ZerOhead
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Au at $260 is called theft.

Expect a 4 A.M. knock at the door followed by a couple of stun grenades through your window...

(the closed window... not the open one directly beside it...)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4667821 seek
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Technically it was $262. I know, I should hang my head in shame.

Cooper had been beating on the gold drum for years, and eventually the message stuck. He frequently cited sources and urged people to check them for themselves, and sometime in 1999 he stepped it up, I read up, and the rest is history.

It's funny, in 2008 during the excitement I bought another single 1/10th oz coin from the same dealer, who reminisced about the time I bought that first 1/10th oz coin "as the time when we couldn't give the shit away." As it turns out that purchase was an almost perfectly timed one on the bottom tick of the past 30 years. Too bad I lost both coins when my rowboat capsized in '09.

My single biggest financial regret has been not buying more back in '99. My second biggest financial regret is boating with my coin collection.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:47 | 4667827 chumbawamba
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Damn, you too?

http://jerry611.newsvine.com/_news/2012/12/02/15618990-masked-men-hijack...

I feel for ya, bro :(

-Chumblez.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:49 | 4667835 seek
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In my case it was just a really pissed off Muskie and not masked hijackers. I think I'd prefer hijackers.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4667777 seek
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I think this bears mentioning, snipped from Wikipedia:

In August 1995, the US government avoided trial on a civil lawsuit filed by the Weavers, by awarding the three surviving daughters $1,000,000 each, and Randy Weaver $100,000 over the deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver. The attorney for Kevin Harris pressed Harris' civil suit for damages, although federal officials vowed they would never pay someone who had killed a U.S. Marshal (Harris had been acquitted by a jury trial on grounds of self-defense). In September 2000 after persistent appeals, Harris was awarded a $380,000 settlement from the government.

Weaver was acquitted as well.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:21 | 4667976 willwork4food
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Which he promtly gave 50% BACK to state & fed for taxes.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:22 | 4668373 James
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Their are NO TAXES due from a Lawsuit such as Weavers.

Years ago I won a  overtime lawsuit. No Taxes!

Am dealing w/a wrongful death suit right now and no taxes due.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 00:57 | 4668332 nc551
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Same with waco right?  Survivors paid off and aquitted.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 02:34 | 4668477 Offthebeach
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Indulgence.

Open daylight murder, then print some paper for surviving peasants.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:36 | 4668021 Josey Montana
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May God rest William Cooper's soul.  Chumba, I had no idea but I am not surprised you remember him fondly.  "You thundering herds of sheople!  Think!  Don't believe me get off your fat rear end and do your own damn research! "

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:48 | 4667608 NoTTD
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Still have those two-way-sneeze-through wind vents?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4667637 Ralph Spoilsport
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Sure do and it's only two-ninety-five hundred dollars in easy monthly payments of twenty dollars a week, twice a week and never on Sunday!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4667675 One of We
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In no particular order.....

 

J. Boehner

H. Reid

J. Dimon

N. Pelosi

L. Blankfein

*.Bush

*.Rothschild

*.Clinton (sorry Chelsea but you're toast through the Purge or Arkancide anyway)

.

.

.

 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:23 | 4668378 TheObsoleteMan
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Why only 100? Once you get started, how can you know when to stop? Only 100? Not by a long shot! At 10,000 you are begining to make progress. At 100,000 you are doing some good, and at 1 million you are doing great. This is how it starts, with just shooting 100 or so.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 09:20 | 4669122 PT
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Let Ralph start shooting the "right 100 people" and you do whatever alternative you dream up and we'll see who succeeds first, if at all.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:53 | 4668652 negative rates
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You have a strange way of trying solve problems.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4667584 Pooper Popper
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oathkeepers.org is down and gone does anybody know anything about this?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4667605 Ralph Spoilsport
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It's definitely off-line. Haven't heard anything.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/oathkeepers.org.html

Rhodes just posted some YouTube interviews at the Bundy Ranch that the Feds won't like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfcpRlSNbuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDKAaymvLSY

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4667642 Pooper Popper
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Thanks Ralph!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:38 | 4667795 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The site itself may not be down, but DNS isn't working for the oathkeepers.org domain. DNS hostname queries of the host oathkeepers.org, as well as the domain's name servers (ns1.oathkeepers.org and ns2.oathkeepers.org) do not currently resolve to IP addresses.

I also noticed a few hours ago that a completely unrelated site, lists.bioenergylists.org, although working about 12 hours ago, is experiencing the same problem. DNS hostname queries of the site, as well as ns1.bioenergylists.org and ns2.bioenergylists.org, are not currently resolving.

It could be coincidence, or it could be a temporary DNS problem affecting some domains. Two data points don't establish a pattern; I'm just throwing this out here as a possibility.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667873 Ralph Spoilsport
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Thanks for digging that info up. There's been too much hysteria lately along with disinfo and agitprop. I've also noticed that since the OpenSSL bug was publicized, some websites won't respond if you use HTTPS. If you edit it back to HTTP, the page will load. One example, at least from here, is https://www.pcworld.com/  YMMV of course.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:29 | 4668153 NotApplicable
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Many places shut off SSL if they didn't really need it.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 03:04 | 4668502 Ralph Spoilsport
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I don't think pcworld.com ever used SSL for people looking at their web pages. I go there fairly regularly and didn't have a problem until the flap about the SSL bug hit the news. I use 'HTTPS Everywhere' and sites that don't use SSL come up as a normal HTTP web page. ZH doesn't use SSL either and there's no problem accessing it and no need to edit the URL. Since the SSL bug, pcworld.com and a few others don't load and time out. If anybody knows the answer, please post it.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:30 | 4668624 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Thanks for digging that info up.

No prob. BTW, DNS name resolution for both domains is now working again.

There's been too much hysteria lately along with disinfo and agitprop.

The disinfo and agitprop "industries" seem to be experiencing moar groath than anything else these days.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 03:33 | 4668525 laboratorymike
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Based on your timing, there's a pretty good chance it has to do with this:

http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/downtime-hostgator-bluehost-cust...

My web business is affected by it also.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 04:56 | 4668606 zhandax
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Anyone still believe in coincidence?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:01 | 4667656 Balanced Integer
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I'd heard anecdotal reports that the core group responsible for oathkeepers was already down at the Bundy ranch. Glad to hear that they're puttin' up. That doesn't happen nearly enough.

Operation American Spring in 30 days. May 16, 2014. DC.

Constitutional Emergency

 

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4667681 Ralph Spoilsport
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Stewart Rhodes is not popular with a lot of the Freedom Movement people. They see him as a self promoting jerk that likes to hear himself talk. If you notice in the first video I posted above, he never lets Michele Fiore talk. He's also wearing every possible item of clothing that Oathkeepers sell like some NASCAR driver.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:23 | 4667983 25or6to4
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@Ralph
Alex Jones and Stewart Rhodes must be twin brothers going by your description.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:26 | 4667992 Ralph Spoilsport
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Rhodes is being compared to Glenn Beck. Alex Jones works too.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:06 | 4667682 chumbawamba
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In that first link starting at the 3:00 mark when the white haired dude starts speaking, listen to what he's saying.  He brings up the oath of office that every government officer makes when they take office.  That is an important thing to understand.

These people take oaths to support and defend the constitution of the state in which they are serving and of the United States.  When they do not honor that oath, they commit a felony.  It's no different than when someone shoots or stabs someone else.  Yet they aren't being held accountable.  Why not?

-Chumblez.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667700 Ralph Spoilsport
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Because this administration, like the one before it, treats the Constitution like toilet paper and they wipe their ass with it every day. Make no mistake, the word's out and the balloon will be going up soon.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:24 | 4667749 chumbawamba
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No, because no one held them accountable when they still could.  We the people abidicated our authority.  Now we have to fight for it back all over again.

-Chumblez.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:34 | 4668631 jerry_theking_lawler
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Also adding in the fact that people are taught that the Constitution is a living document and can be change or 'interpreted'.....then the sheep follow what thy are told to follow.

The Constition can not be 'interpreted'. What is says goes. Pretty simple. If you want to change it, follow the rules and have yourself a Constitional Convention. Otherwise, follow what it says without imply or inferring....

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:19 | 4667732 Oldwood
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because the system is absolutely corrupt to the core, everyone knows it and is afraid if the corruption ends it will be the end of them. The whole world is dependent on corruption as the machine has become so rotten and decrepit that corruption is the grease that lets the wheels still turn. It will ultimately end. The system will ultimately collapse. But most are in no hurry to see this end for they fear that it will be their end as well. No solution exists that does not bring great pain with it and as such no solution will be implemented. From bad to ugly.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:25 | 4667755 chumbawamba
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That's an acceptable answer.  See above also.

-Chumblez.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:27 | 4667760 Ralph Spoilsport
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You may be right, but we as Americans are supposed to be better than this. The whole world's watching - will we rise to the occasion again, or end up looking like a turd dropped from a tall cow's ass in August. I'm hoping there's at least 3% of this country that feels the way I do.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:31 | 4667774 fonzannoon
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Ralph fwiw I think at this point a good portion of the world laughs at us and the rest of them hate us. I do believe that more than 3% of this country feels the way you do. I hope whatever it is will be enough.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:58 | 4667863 new game
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it is simple; enough is when you aint got shit left. 400/day for me, and very angry...

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:41 | 4668184 drendebe10
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The smart money is on tje cow turd because of the fudhe packer in chief likes its fudge in situ.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 08:27 | 4668907 beaglebog
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Power is the ability to do harm to other people.

 

Political power is the ability to do that harm ... without fear of personal consequences.

 

That is why they like power, so much.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 22:02 | 4671824 Milestones
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Chumba, Exactly the issue you bring up about Oaths of Office, which a colleage of mine filed with the Mesa County sheriff ( biggest city is Grand Junction Colorado) and has demanded that he arrest all 4 judges and  is in the oven as i write. This is all being done under the aspices of a supreme Court decision 

"The People's Common Law Grand Jury, which is being done nationwide as a result of a stunning 6-3 decision by Judge Scalia in the 90's?. Writing for the majority, confirmed  that the American Grand Jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative branches of government, but instead belong to the people, It is in effect a 4th branch of government"governed" by the people and administered directly by and on behalf of the American people, and its "authority emenates from the Bill of Rights".

There were no ifs buts or ands attached. It is a very cold, and to the point DEMAND what he requested be done. This is juust the first shot being fired, others will be coming.

If you are amoung the many disgruntled, angry with our Goverment, this might be a way to participate in what is now loooooog overdue.

It is now time to start kicking ass and taking names. Many states have filled all their counties with these juries. The near future may begin to look a little different if we all get off our asses and get in the game.              Milestones

 


Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:54 | 4668656 negative rates
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The trend line is now to smoke them out.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:37 | 4668027 Josey Montana
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Backup blogger site: http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:31 | 4668158 drendebe10
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This soinds like wishful thinking . Fat frackin chance given the sheeple. But if it does, send em ammo. 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 04:19 | 4668574 OldPhart
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The most they can say is "I'm with the Federal Government'...then you kill them.

Alternatively...I'm with (some acronym)...shoot them immediately.

It's time for the great cull, but it's not what our supposedly 'overlords' expected.

Answer your door locked and loaded...and don't hesitate to shoot.  It doen't matter who's there.  Let them know THEY are to be the ones intimidated, and obliterated...if we choose

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 14:46 | 4670362 Monty Burns
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My only modification would be to avoid taking on the foot soldiers where possible.  Go for the head honchos, easy to find out where they live, and shoot the f*ckers.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:20 | 4667495 The Gooch
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May we live in interesting times.

God Bless.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:40 | 4667564 ZerOhead
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"May you live in interesting times" is actually purported to be an old Chinese curse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:46 | 4667596 The Gooch
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Maybe they'll build a monument to it in Nevada. Or maybe not.

To reiterate: God Bless.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4667632 Harbanger
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Yes, Life is for living, and you haven't truly learned anything until you've developed character, which comes through perseverance.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:24 | 4667748 NoDebt
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100 million people in the FSA claim to have found a better way.  TAKE the fruits of perseverence from people like you and me.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:30 | 4667770 A Lunatic
Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:24 | 4667507 Aussiekiwi
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If you have a problem with being shot at, you must be a terrorist, there all fixed.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:15 | 4667706 intric8
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the fact remains, govt agencies have been preparing, even practicing (fema in new orleans during katrina) for massive civil unrest. you dont prepare for stuff you dont see coming. what do these guys know? will someone, anyone, reassure me that we can have an economic and social recovery in this country before i go hide off in a cave with canned goods and a shotgun?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:04 | 4668339 Raging Debate
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Intric8 - The decision of senior political insiders and bankers decided the baton of world power was to be handed off to China. So they knew the jobs would go too and eventually become pissed. Also, they deregulated the financial system in the late 90's to commit financial crimes. At that time thy put a plan into action to hire a shitload of cops in advance of the crime. How were they this smart did they study history knowing civil unrest would break out? You see, in the 90's computer power made massive leaps and bounds.

So they used supercomputers to game it out (incidentally Clinton Admin also gave these to China) no different then military wargames. They built project Echelon and Carnivore using advances in data storage as it had started to become affordable to monitor all Internet communications and filter them. People acting like they had privacy with an anonymous screen name was near comical to me.

I see no need to live in a cave but I believe one should have three months food and water (or chlorine which is bleach to purify water) and means to defend yourself if nothing else against violent crime if society breaks down for a short time. If nothing else, you'll feel more secure.

As Ben Franklin said "It is better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it."

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:29 | 4668390 Raging Debate
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Intric8 - The decision of senior political insiders and bankers decided the baton of world power was to be handed off to China. So they knew the jobs would go too and eventually become pissed. Also, they deregulated the financial system in the late 90's to commit financial crimes. At that time thy put a plan into action to hire a shitload of cops in advance of the crime. How were they this smart did they study history knowing civil unrest would break out? You see, in the 90's computer power made massive leaps and bounds.

So they used supercomputers to game it out (incidentally Clinton Admin also gave these to China) no different then military wargames. They built project Echelon and Carnivore using advances in data storage as it had started to become affordable to monitor all Internet communications and filter them. People acting like they had privacy with an anonymous screen name was near comical to me.

I see no need to live in a cave but I believe one should have three months food and water (or chlorine which is bleach to purify water) and means to defend yourself if nothing else against violent crime if society breaks down for a short time. If nothing else, you'll feel more secure.

As Ben Franklin said "It is better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it."

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 04:24 | 4668581 OldPhart
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Thou dost practice double-speak!!

Stone him!!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:36 | 4667788 Keyser
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If you run from the police in fear, you are a terrorist...

If you run from the police because you can't hear them with ear-bugs in, you are a terrorist...

If you throw a shoe at a no-talent, hack of a politician, you are a terrorist...

If you question the party line from DC, you are a dissident and terrorist...

If you get turned around while driving near the capitol in DC and run from the police, you are a terrorist and shot 5 times, with one shot to the back of the head...

If you video a policeman overstepping his bounds, you are a terrorist, along with your dog which will be shot...

etc, etc, etc... This shit isn't funny, at all...

 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 02:40 | 4668486 Offthebeach
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Your labradoodle looks terroristic.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:50 | 4668650 jerry_theking_lawler
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If you carry a 'concealed' rice cooker (until confronted by the jackboots and asked to disclose the contents of your backpack) into Boston you are a terrorist.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:44 | 4668193 Jugdish
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If you like getting shot at, you can keep ur getting shot at. There fixed it for ya.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:24 | 4667511 Hughing
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Nothing's going to happen in the US, ever. Has something happened in Brazil? Argentina? How about Mexico or Japan? Name the socialist Western paper money shithole that is ready to revolt. 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:29 | 4667522 CH1
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So far, Murikans have been loudmouthed cowards. ("I'll do somethin' when they pass this line! No, this one! Well, this one!")

But, that may change.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:39 | 4667573 The Gooch
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Prudent.

Behold the catalyst.

It's just around the bend.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:16 | 4667718 Pure Evil
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We're only following in the steps and actions of our Dear Great Beloved Leader, Bunghole Homo Obutthead.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:46 | 4668203 drendebe10
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aka fudge packer in chief 

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 14:11 | 4670213 Uncle Remus
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So, FPOTUS then...

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 00:35 | 4668272 willwork4food
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From out of nowhere. A law abiding, soccer mom & dad, tired but hard working family gets stopped at a drunk driving checkpoint after they just came back from a wedding celebration. One of the cops is vying for the gestapo of the year award and is sure to get it. Trouble starts. The dad refuses to be searched, refuses a breath test and asks for the the ID of the officers who are getting really pissed at being ignored- all while the family's German Shephard is barking at the group holding them. Some rogue cop tries the each door, one opens and out pops the dog ready to eat his face away and the cop draws & fires and... shoots into the liver of the cute 12 year old girl in the car before his comrades finish the dog off. The dad (understandably) goes apeshit. They slam the guy down on the pavement and arrest him for resisting arrest and assulting a police officer. More cops are called. All caught on vid with other cars stopped nearby ..and on YouTube within the hour.

Rev. 2.0 begins.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:22 | 4667742 sessinpo
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CH1    So far, Murikans have been loudmouthed cowards. ("I'll do somethin' when they pass this line! No, this one! Well, this one!")

But, that may change.

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Quiet. Hughing is an easy target for food supplies.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:38 | 4667794 Keyser
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You first Tarzan... I don't feel like being a martyr today... 

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:27 | 4667524 Two-bits
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***Graphic***

 

So this cocksucker in Brazil didn't get what was coming to him?  People all over the world are on the edge of revolt as the result of starvation by their governments.

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b67_1397324660

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4667615 NoTTD
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True.  But there is country where it has happened before:  This one.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:12 | 4667702 thamnosma
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Apparently the authorities have gone a bit far in Venezuela.  That's a society in revolt.  Admittedly, I'm surprised Argentina hasn't exploded but they HAVE had riots and breakdowns.  Recently people in Buenos Aires state have been lynching criminals as the police are totally ineffective.

You also ignore the mass protests, some violent in Greece, Spain and Portugal referencing your "socialist Wester paper money shitholes".  While that as yet hasn't resulted in all out revolution, those societies are definitely at Defcon4.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:41 | 4667807 Keyser
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That giant swirling sound you hear is all of human society circling the porcelain convenience... It's working it's way up the food chain... Just a matter of time... 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:24 | 4667752 new game
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i can think 4-500 million reasons that make usa different.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 04:52 | 4668589 OldPhart
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I'm a peaceful, 54 year old man, who's been a citizen volunteer all his life (while still having a real job).  I spent six years in the 80's as a volunteer EMT for an all volunteer ambulance squad in north Flaw-DUH, fifteen years as a volunteer, since the 90's, in the Boy Scouts...and have been everything from County Coordinator for Muscular Dystrophy to State Coordinater for March of Dimes...

I'm a fuckin' nobody...but I'll shoot the first government agent (other than local sheriff) that knocks on my door...I'm so fucking primed I'd probably shoot any that want to inspect my vehicle at a state border.  (And I used to be a sheep)  I woke up in 2008 with the bank bail out...I remember it clearly...and went looking for an explanation and history <and found it on Zero Hedge eventually>. I have done my research, I have read the history that is ignored, I've read/watched countless websites....I AM now informed. (though I still have problems with investing gibberish put on Zero Hedge by those that know what the fuck they're talking about).

oh, yeah...my current involvement is Boy Scouts of America and Salvation Army.

And I WILL fucking shoot you.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:56 | 4668657 jerry_theking_lawler
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Same boat, same situation, same timeframe of awakening (except I am younger). Congrats on your achievements and hopefully you won't be alone when you have to perform you first deed of true freedom. Hopefully, others will come to you side if and when it is needed. -Fellow brother of Freedom.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:25 | 4667512 Superdude
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Violence is not the answer. I do not want any part of that solution. I would rather be wiped off the earth by aggressors than kill or injure someone who is uninformed and cannot see the error of their ways. I've accomplished many life goals.  I will not lose my humanity.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:29 | 4667529 Seasmoke
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Nice knowing you. 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:28 | 4667753 sessinpo
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Seasmoke     Nice knowing you.

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You are to nice. My response would have been good riddance. He's already lost his humanity and doesn't even know it. fighting corruption and evil is the preservation of humanity for the future. But I guess he got his so screw the future generatios. That is humanity to him.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:31 | 4667538 CH1
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Violence is damaging in the best of circumstances, and is definitely to be avoided if possible.

But, to save life by stopping a predator is of value. Most unfortunate, but necessary at times.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:42 | 4667558 fonzannoon
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Guys check this out. I actually got kicked out of this high school my freshman year. Not only were they absolutely the most anal retentive people I ever got immersed with, but also probably the dumbest. But check out how fucked up their understanding of history has become. At least some of the people in the comments section seem to get it

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/04/15/l-i-high-school-students-suspende...

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:49 | 4667610 The Gooch
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fonz!

We got kicked out of different schools together!

right on.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:53 | 4667630 One of We
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'“It represents slavery to us. It represents racism and prejudice to us,” parent JuJu Quinnonez added.'

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:54 | 4667633 Uber Vandal
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For some reason, I stopped reading after reading the sentence containing "exercising heroic restraint".

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:00 | 4667655 fonzannoon
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It's so amazing how warped everyone's brains are. Beyond scary, and nice job Gooch!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4667762 HardAssets
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As I suspected - - - private schools impacted by PC too. (Even religious Catholic school.)

Every one of those people interviewed speaking up against the students didn't stop to ask any questions, just reacted emotionally based on their conditioning. They seem to think a piece of cloth can reach out and 'threaten' them somehow. (They must be absolutely scared shitless of guns & knives.) And you can just bet that they know nothing of the history of the American Civil War.

Ya wanna get a real education kids ?    Avoid 'schools'. Study on your own. Start with the gathering of evidence & facts, logic & spotting logical fallacies, rhetoric / writing so you can communicate ideas effectively to others. Think for yourself. Think creatively outside of the box.  Know that many of the 'adults' put in charge of you in 'school' are fuckin' morons who never had an original thought of substance in their lives.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:36 | 4667785 fonzannoon
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"St. Anthony’s is a private Catholic school and isn’t bound by the First Amendment right to free speech."

I had to read that twice, People pay EXTRA to send their kids there. I have a friend who lives around there and pays about 14k in property taxes, which covers the public schools, and people will pay another several grand to make sure their kid is not bound by the first amendment right to free speech.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:50 | 4667836 HardAssets
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An elderly relative of mine went to a Catholic high school in the 1950s. I asked her questions about it, and she got an excellent education there. She stilll remembers many of her lessons from so many decades back. - - You can also find examples of old tests from public schools from the 1950s and even back to the 1800s. Those students were far advanced compared to those of today when it comes to learning how to actually think.

Education has drastically been degraded over the years.

Purposely.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:09 | 4667931 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I dunno man. I would say kids in public schools don't really have a whole lot of freedom of speech either. A while back some kid in public school got suspended for wearing a pro 2nd amendment shirt. I wish I would be able to home school mine, but I doubt that will be an option for us. Either way, it's easy to understand why people would want to keep their kids out of our terrible public schools.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:16 | 4667959 fonzannoon
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I am not advocating public school over private school. I can only speak from my experience at this particular school. It was beyond scary. The people who "taught" there can all fuck off as far as I am concerned. The best thing that ever happened to me was them telling me I did not belong. When I enrolled in the public high school I was fortunate enough to have a self admitted libertarian history teacher and I credit him with getting me started on an early path of questioning everything. But this was 20 years ago. Much has changed and again I was lucky.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:29 | 4668150 Bunders
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"people will pay another several grand to make sure their kid is not bound by the first amendment right to free speech."

I imagine they pay to make sure their kid isn't listening to other people exercising their first amendment right to free speech.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:03 | 4668615 OldPhart
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"I imagine they pay to make sure their kid isn't listening to other people exercising their first amendment right to free speech."

They're paying to avoid state sanctioned propaganda presented as 'first amendment right to free speech'.

We, the people, have the right to free speech.  The State and Federal Government does not have that right.  They are not 'We the People'.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 06:40 | 4668695 fonzannoon
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in any event, the people at that particular school are retarded.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:14 | 4667944 WillyGroper
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Perhaps a public crucifixion of the offending children would mollify those so offended.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:08 | 4667684 Superdude
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I guess I am fortunate enough to not currently have a wife or children, though I can understand those that would have to protect loved ones. In my clinical training I worked with patients that were seeking asylum due to being victims of torture, I've seen what happens when people lose humanity. Find like-minded individuals and try to help each other out as much as possible. If others want to use other means to defend I find no fault in that either, it's personal choice and I don't judge others for their choices. I live in a place where a simple walk without adequate clothing could kill me six months of the year, if it got too bad I would let nature do its thing and turn me into animal food.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 04:39 | 4668594 OldPhart
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I got fired from a volunteer position with Boy Scouts of America as District Commissioner for calling some Mormon an asshole.  Accidently went viral.  Unfortunately, despite apologies...He's still an asshole.

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:37 | 4667561 BandGap
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I struggle with this, as well. But I would probably pull the trigger to save family or friend.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:01 | 4667853 HardAssets
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probably ?

 

As in    'I've got your back . . . . probably.'  ?

 

Not trying to bust your chops, but you might want to think deeply about these issues. They can't be sorted out in the heat of the moment, when you must respond NOW.

If, like recently, someone was stabbing a loved one with a knife, what would you do ?  (Not asking, its a rhetorical question that must be answered by each individual for themselves.)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:37 | 4667563 ILLILLILLI
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>> I will not lose my humanity.

It will be taken from you...because you refuse to defend it.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:44 | 4667590 Pants McPants
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Can't really speak for Superdude, but I'm pretty sure that's not what he said.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4667602 The Gooch
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Hey everybody!
Glenn Beck is here!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:28 | 4667998 Ralph Spoilsport
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LOL! Good one.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4667606 Pants McPants
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Excellent comment; I'm surprised by the number of downvotes.

While I like to think I have Bundy family-sized stones the reality is I won't what I would do until I face that situation myself.

I hope such is never the case.

edit: surprised

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:09 | 4667691 greatbeard
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>>    I'm surprised by the number of downvotes.

I always count one down vote as two up votes.  You've got to take into consideration who you're playing to.

 

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4667618 smacker
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An obvious question is: how much subjugation by criminals will you take before you say "Enough is Enough"?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:51 | 4667624 NoTTD
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To quote Lou Grant:  "Au contraire, Mary.  Violence has solved every professional football game, every boxing match, and several marriages I could name."

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:54 | 4668216 drendebe10
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The radical muslims must've sren that eisode as well as the a BLM,

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:57 | 4667648 noless
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are you vegan?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667708 thamnosma
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Mars Attacks.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:15 | 4667715 logicalman
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I am, when I have time to think, a pacifist, but if you come at me with intent you are in for a world of hurt.

I'm not a big guy, but I'm fit, and was taught to hurt people by an expert.

Violence should be avoided whenever possible, but if someone tries to commit a violent act against you, you'd be an idiot not to fight back.

 

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:23 | 4667728 logicalman
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dupe

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667845 kill switch
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Let your kids be exterminated......because you don't like violence.....you are a retard ,,,if anyone would  attemp to kill my kids I would say fuck you ,,go through me..

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667869 Christophe2
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Regarding 'not losing our humanity': the real, natural, world is a jungle, and even herbivores fight back whenever possible.  It is sad that people have been so filled with nonsensical BS delusions that they do not realize how much the predators LOVE pacifists: it's like taking candy from a baby (or submitting babies to MK-ULTRA, which they of course frequently do).

One particularly annoying thing with many activists is that they seek harmony and avoid discord, when in fact changing things (against the wishes of TPTB) inherently involves discord.  The agents of course use this against the activists very effectively: all they need to do to control a group of them is to make a big deal whenever anything really good is proposed - automatically, the sheeple end up feeling that they would rather not do that, if it's going to entail any strife in the group...

The people who don't want to fight get owned.  (But those who want to fight stupidly get rekt!)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:35 | 4668170 Superdude
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I would have to disagree about getting owned. I set goals for my life and I have acheived them. I live my life on my own terms, they may be different from yours, but still I find them to work for me. I remember when the 2012 hype was coming and people asked me what I would do. I said I'd wait at the edge of my driveway, drinking a case of beer waiting for the titlewave to take me out. They asked why and I said, "I didn't go to school for all these years to graduate and become a farmer."

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:40 | 4668633 smacker
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"I live my life on my own terms"

No you do not.

You live your life on terms set by government and its countless agencies of the State. What you really mean is that you accomodate all the laws/rules/regulations they set and keep bending over to keep the peace.

Which brings me back to my earlier unanswered question to you:

                                  "how much subjugation by criminals will you take before you say "Enough is Enough"?"

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 07:47 | 4668783 Iam_Silverman
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" waiting for the titlewave to take me out"

Huh?  As in MERS, or foreclosure?

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