Martin Armstrong Warns American Civil Unrest Is Starting Right On Schedule

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Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics blog,



We have been warning that 2014 is the beginning of a new cycle that will see a highly unusual convergence between our domestic (civil unrest & revolution) data and our international war model. Both converge for the first time since the 1700s when there were US and French Revolutions and the fall of monarchy. This was the topic at our Cycle of War Conference (see also special report).

The civil unrest will develop first outside the USA and turn up more aggressively in the USA after 2015.75. Nonetheless, it still begins in 2014 for the USA as well. We are starting to see this in the West where memories of previous events still linger deep wounds from 1992.



The confrontation in Nevada between Clive Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management, whose Director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has turned into an issue of important cycle unrest. The government wants the land and demands Bundy gets his cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations. This dispute between a Nevada rancher and federal rangers over alleged illegal cattle grazing erupted into an Old West-style showdown on the open range this week, even prompting self-proclaimed members of militia groups from across the country to join the rancher in fighting what they say is U.S. “tyranny.”


This is a brewing resentment of federal government that goes back to Ruby Ridge, which was the site of a deadly confrontation and siege in northern Idaho in 1992 between Randy Weaver, his family and his friend Kevin Harris, and agents of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). It resulted in the death of Weaver’s son Sammy, his wife Vicki, and Deputy U.S. Marshal William Francis Degan. The Feds simply shot his unarmed family dead and it was alleged they even shot his son in the back. This is indeed the continued militarization of the police in America. The corruption was so bad in Ukraine that when someone saw the police, they trembled in fear. In the US, this trend is also underway and demonstrated by this video where the police began shooting at a minivan driven by a woman with children in the car over a traffic violation.

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Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:20 | 4667494 VD
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BRING IT! (& take the criminal IRS and Fed out while you're at it!)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:24 | 4667505 Two-bits
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Long axes and landscape timbers.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:26 | 4667518 CH1
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Just stop obeying them!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:36 | 4667557 chumbawamba
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Thanks, Sunshine Patriot.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4667585 ZerOhead
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No good can come from this "showdown".


Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4667601 NoTTD
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Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:50 | 4667617 ZerOhead
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And don't forget to apply for your Federal tomato, bean and potatoe planting permits for the spring planting season.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:53 | 4667628 chumbawamba
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It won't matter because I wasn't able to get a permit to collect my rainwater run-off, and I can't otherwise water my garden because the city shut off my service when I couldn't pay the bill.  I plan on eating old shoe leather and bark instead.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:07 | 4667657 ZerOhead
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If you were Ukrainian and it was a Russian water company that you weren't paying your government would see to it that your water would be back on already.

P.S.  The bark will require permits next year...

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:10 | 4667698 One of We
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Could the good please engage the IMF with replentishments for the pantry which is sadly depleted of the Russian vodka?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667707 Keyser
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You know there is a problem when there are more Americans killed by the police than died in the Iraqi war...


Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:20 | 4667737 VD
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fukn pigz

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:41 | 4667804 Anusocracy
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So you're the one spreading porcine epidemic diarrhea virus.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4667824 chumbawamba
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VD, you sad fag, you just got BLESSED BITCH.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667870 VD
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chumbza u ride my jock so hard, even in comments section. ur love for my VD is insatiable! open wide...........

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:01 | 4667887 chumbawamba
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I'll let the down arrows speak for me.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:03 | 4667901 Ralph Spoilsport
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LOL! Holy shit, did ZH chat break¿¿¿

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:20 | 4667738 VD
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fukn pigz

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:31 | 4667772 NuckingFuts
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Good enough for a "doubler"

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 05:43 | 4668641 Frankie Carbone
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I'd pause and think about that first. That IMF loan for a bottle of vodka will eventually cost you your house, your car and 5 years salary in interest payments. 

NOW do you want a drink?

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 03:56 | 4668554 Tengri Temujin
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I hear in Washington state they were talking of putting water meters on people's home wells to generate extra income, how outrageous is that.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 07:42 | 4668763 CH1
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Thanks, Sunshine Patriot.

You don't know me, sweetheart.

I am Chumbawamba.

And in this case, the voice of compliance.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:52 | 4667844 Cannon Fodder
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You go first,...


Thu, 04/17/2014 - 07:43 | 4668769 CH1
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You go first...

Lots of us already have.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:34 | 4667546 Ralph Spoilsport
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Everyone should read this:

“These people are playing with matches… I don’t think they understand the scope and scale of the wildfire they are flirting with. They are fucking around with a civil war that could last a decade and cause millions of deaths… and the sad truth is that 95% of the problems we have in this country could be solved tomorrow, by noon… simply by dragging 100 people out in the street and shooting them in the fucking head.”

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:41 | 4667579 chumbawamba
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Thanks, Ralph.

Anyone who wants to feel their heart ripped out of their chest, listen to Bill Cooper (RIP) read a transcript from the Randy Weaver trial:

If you want to understand what happened at the Bundy Ranch and why, put aside two hours and click on that link.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:47 | 4667603 chumbawamba
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Here's a brief snippet of an interview of Gerry Spence, the man who defended Randy Weaver:

The law as I see it today is severely broken and does not offer anything except an empty promise of "liberty and justice for all".

Please listen to other interviews of him if you want to hear some very uncomfortable truths about the American legal system.  Though anyone who has been through it already knows.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:19 | 4667729 XitSam
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A lawyer once told me, "Murder trials are not about justice, they are about points of law."

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:13 | 4667704 seek
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Wow, that's a freaking time machine for me. I remember listening to this live in the early 90s.

Don't completely agree with Cooper on all things, but I can thank him for getting me into AU at $260.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:34 | 4667771 ZerOhead
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Au at $260 is called theft.

Expect a 4 A.M. knock at the door followed by a couple of stun grenades through your window...

(the closed window... not the open one directly beside it...)

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:46 | 4667821 seek
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Technically it was $262. I know, I should hang my head in shame.

Cooper had been beating on the gold drum for years, and eventually the message stuck. He frequently cited sources and urged people to check them for themselves, and sometime in 1999 he stepped it up, I read up, and the rest is history.

It's funny, in 2008 during the excitement I bought another single 1/10th oz coin from the same dealer, who reminisced about the time I bought that first 1/10th oz coin "as the time when we couldn't give the shit away." As it turns out that purchase was an almost perfectly timed one on the bottom tick of the past 30 years. Too bad I lost both coins when my rowboat capsized in '09.

My single biggest financial regret has been not buying more back in '99. My second biggest financial regret is boating with my coin collection.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:47 | 4667827 chumbawamba
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Damn, you too?

I feel for ya, bro :(


Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:49 | 4667835 seek
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In my case it was just a really pissed off Muskie and not masked hijackers. I think I'd prefer hijackers.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:32 | 4667777 seek
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I think this bears mentioning, snipped from Wikipedia:

In August 1995, the US government avoided trial on a civil lawsuit filed by the Weavers, by awarding the three surviving daughters $1,000,000 each, and Randy Weaver $100,000 over the deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver. The attorney for Kevin Harris pressed Harris' civil suit for damages, although federal officials vowed they would never pay someone who had killed a U.S. Marshal (Harris had been acquitted by a jury trial on grounds of self-defense). In September 2000 after persistent appeals, Harris was awarded a $380,000 settlement from the government.

Weaver was acquitted as well.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:21 | 4667976 willwork4food
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Which he promtly gave 50% BACK to state & fed for taxes.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:22 | 4668373 James
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Their are NO TAXES due from a Lawsuit such as Weavers.

Years ago I won a  overtime lawsuit. No Taxes!

Am dealing w/a wrongful death suit right now and no taxes due.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 00:57 | 4668332 nc551
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Same with waco right?  Survivors paid off and aquitted.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 02:34 | 4668477 Offthebeach
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Open daylight murder, then print some paper for surviving peasants.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 22:36 | 4668021 Josey Montana
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May God rest William Cooper's soul.  Chumba, I had no idea but I am not surprised you remember him fondly.  "You thundering herds of sheople!  Think!  Don't believe me get off your fat rear end and do your own damn research! "

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:48 | 4667608 NoTTD
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Still have those two-way-sneeze-through wind vents?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:55 | 4667637 Ralph Spoilsport
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Sure do and it's only two-ninety-five hundred dollars in easy monthly payments of twenty dollars a week, twice a week and never on Sunday!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:04 | 4667675 One of We
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In no particular order.....


J. Boehner

H. Reid

J. Dimon

N. Pelosi

L. Blankfein



*.Clinton (sorry Chelsea but you're toast through the Purge or Arkancide anyway)





Thu, 04/17/2014 - 01:23 | 4668378 TheObsoleteMan
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Why only 100? Once you get started, how can you know when to stop? Only 100? Not by a long shot! At 10,000 you are begining to make progress. At 100,000 you are doing some good, and at 1 million you are doing great. This is how it starts, with just shooting 100 or so.

Thu, 04/17/2014 - 09:20 | 4669122 PT
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Let Ralph start shooting the "right 100 people" and you do whatever alternative you dream up and we'll see who succeeds first, if at all.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:43 | 4667584 Pooper Popper
Pooper Popper's picture is down and gone does anybody know anything about this?

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:52 | 4667605 Ralph Spoilsport
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It's definitely off-line. Haven't heard anything.

Rhodes just posted some YouTube interviews at the Bundy Ranch that the Feds won't like.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 20:56 | 4667642 Pooper Popper
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Thanks Ralph!

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:38 | 4667795 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The site itself may not be down, but DNS isn't working for the domain. DNS hostname queries of the host, as well as the domain's name servers ( and do not currently resolve to IP addresses.

I also noticed a few hours ago that a completely unrelated site,, although working about 12 hours ago, is experiencing the same problem. DNS hostname queries of the site, as well as and, are not currently resolving.

It could be coincidence, or it could be a temporary DNS problem affecting some domains. Two data points don't establish a pattern; I'm just throwing this out here as a possibility.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 21:59 | 4667873 Ralph Spoilsport
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Thanks for digging that info up. There's been too much hysteria lately along with disinfo and agitprop. I've also noticed that since the OpenSSL bug was publicized, some websites won't respond if you use HTTPS. If you edit it back to HTTP, the page will load. One example, at least from here, is  YMMV of course.

Wed, 04/16/2014 - 23:29 | 4668153 NotApplicable
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Many places shut off SSL if they didn't really need it.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!