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NATO To Boost Air, Warship Presence Around Russia; Netherlands May Deploy F-16s To Ukraine
If there is was one way to assure a certain escalation in Ukraine hostilities beyond what has already happened, it is for NATO to do precisely what Russia warned it should not do: build up its presence in the surrounding countries. Which is why we find it somewhat puzzling that NATO announced it would do just this when as the Guardian reported, the military alliance said it would step up its presence around Russian borders to "reassure eastern European member states."
The reinforcements on Nato's eastern flank will take the form of more air patrols over the Baltic states, greater numbers of warships in both the Baltic and eastern Mediterranean, and more troops deployed in eastern Europe.
The Nato buildup will also involve the redeployment of warships, some of them now participating in counter-piracy operations off Somalia, to the Baltic and the Mediterranean. A Nato official said the details of the naval measures were still being discussed.
The Nato commander in Europe, General Philip Breedlove, said several Nato member states had offered ground troops for deployment in eastern European member states and that he would be soon making recommendations on how they should be positioned. Breedlove said that the situation represented more than a crisis, adding: "For Nato, it's bigger than that. It's a paradigm shift."
It goes without saying that to Russia this will be seen as a hostile move on behalf of the western countries, which is why Breedlove said "he had attempted to call the Russian chief of general staff, Valery Gerasimov, to explain that the deployments were entirely defensive but had not been able to reach him."
Did he at least leave a voicemail explaining why the piling up of new troops is not to be seen as an offensive meneuver?
Furthermore, that this is happening today is no accident: tomorrow is the official start of international talks on the Ukrainian crisis in Geneva, and the NATO action is a way to increase pressure on Moscow. However, as has been seen repeatedly in the past month, the Kremlin does not handly increased pressure easily and instead, usually finds a way to re-escalate on its own.
What is the thinking behind what can only be classified as a short-sighted move? "A spokesperson for the US secretary of state, John Kerry, said his primary goal was to persuade Moscow to halt its destabilising activities in eastern Ukraine, and call publicly for separatist groups to disarm and stand down."
And just in case NATO's open action is not clear, "EU officials in Brussels said the list of Russians subject to visa bans and asset freezes would be expanded by the end of the week. The US state department also signalled it would co-ordinate a further tightening of sanctions with its European partners, but not before the Geneva talks."
"Don't expect any before tomorrow's meetings," Marie Harf, deputy spokesperson at the state department, said. "But if there are not steps taken by Russia to de-escalate, we will take additional steps, including additional sanctions."
The negotiations will bring together Kerry, his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, the Ukrainian foreign minister, Andrii Deshchytsia, and the EU's Ashton. It will mark the first time the quartet has met since the Ukrainian crisis erupted in February.
In addition to one four-way encounter, Kerry will conduct separate bilateral meetings with Lavrov, Deshchytsia and Ashton. Western officials, however, cautioned that the talks were unlikely to bring a diplomatic breakthrough.
Harf said that "top of the list" of US demands would be that Russia halt what the US alleges are destabilising activities in eastern Ukraine. The US wants Russia to publicly call on separatists exerting control in cities in eastern Ukraine to disarm and stand down.
Of course, in case Russia also misses all of this because nobody could reach the Russian chief of staff on the phone, the Netherlands announced it is looking into the deployment of F16 fighter jets as Ukraine crisis air support "to try and ease the conflict around Ukraine, defence minister Jeanine Hennis told a television talk show on Tuesday night.
While there is no question of Nato military action against Russia, ‘we want to be very visible as support to our Eastern allies’, the minister told the Pauw & Witteman show.
With orange colored F-16s it will be very difficult not to be visible:
The defence minister added: "We are looking at how we can increase our air support or sea support in, say, the Baltic or the Black Sea region,’ she said. ‘We are members of an alliance for a reason and we will take our responsibilities.'Asked specifically what form Dutch air support could take, the minister said 'it could mean sending an F16.'
Surely the expansion of NATO forces in the region will promptly force Russia to back down. In the off chance it doesn't, one wonders how NATO will respond if Russia instead adds some more tactical nukes to its arsenal along the Polish border. Puredly defensively of course. Will that, in turn, force NATO to back down? Somehow we doubt it.
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Netherlands needs a lesson in stealth? or maybe orange is hard to see when attacking from the setting sun?
I have no idea why the USA and NATO are being so stupid.........................
Wait till the Dutch send in their mountain troops. That will show ´em.
putin needs to send some fsb to holland.
get his guys to pull all the corks out of those fucking dutch dykes flood the fucking stoned place.
And just when it was becoming crystal clear to both Europeans and Americans that there was no reason for NATO to exist in the 21st century...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2013/04/22/natos-lack-of-any-seri...
The "money quote"...
"After the collapse of the U.S.S.R. the transatlantic alliance became irrelevant. Its purpose, famously explained Lord Hastings Ismay, was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.” All of these objectives had been met."
Gee..large, flourecent pink circles might add to the EU version of the stealth,
"because nobody could reach the Russian chief of staff on the phone"
dont joke about it ... that is serious but also troubling. serious because if we cannot communicate how can we solve the issues; and troubling, dont these people carry a phone with them? how much beyond are these people?
another possibility if the call might have taken place during vodka time that is understable.
I can't imagine why the Russian leadership wouldn't carry their Google Android, iPhone, etc. with them everywhere they go in times like these.
Crazy Russkies.
It's not a big deal.
Obama has everything under control.
"04-16 18:45: US President Obama vows more consequences unless Russia backs down"
http://portal.ransquawk.com/headlines/us-president-obama-vows-more-conse...
04-16 18:50: Tee-off
leeeetttts get ready...to ruuummmble....
I'm in Canada. Saw our one Navy ship leaving port the other day, now who's gonna defend 3000 miles of coastline? We had it covered until a few days ago.
Hey Carp...you in Halifax?
" the minister said 'it could mean sending an F16."
Seriously..., as in one? ROTFLMAO
They'd better bring the mechanics and spare parts.
Screw with Russia, you screw with China. Screw with China, you screw yourself.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2014/04/chinarussia-deal-of-decade.html
You know what that f’n jet needs?
..blue LED’s on the undercarriage like the ones on the low riders that section 8 housing pays for.
crap.. I need another swig of mad dog.
Obama . . . . there will be consequences.
Yeh, with all these geo-political distractions he's bound to end up in the rough more often as he can't concentrate on his game.
y'know.. that 10 km asteroid thing sounds like a good solution.
I was thinking along the lines of a galactic cosmic ray burst or dead center earth path CME, but the big rock will do the trick unless the caldera in Yellowsstone doesn't cleanse the planet first.
Anyone know if there is an App out there to alert users to the spontaneous scuttling of TPTB cockroaches to their bunkers in expectation of nuclear Armageddon? Or is it just that web cam?
"Netherlands needs a lesson in stealth? or maybe orange is hard to see when attacking from the setting sun?"
Netherlands..., attacking..., surely you jest...
"There's only two things I can't stand in this world..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M
The best thing to do would be to fly an F16 up Obummers ass.
Napoleon's boys... buried in Russia.
Hitler's boys.... buried in Russia.
This time's different, hah?
Actually they will be sending an F 1.5
Well whatever.
But we can be sure, Russians will say a fucking big "NYET!" and close the valves on everything (natgas, crude, iron ore etc.) and dump the US$.
...now who's gonna defend 3000 miles of coastline?
Mexicans. They'll do every job you lazy Canucks won't do at half the price!
Ouch - that hurt.
Mind you considering this comment is coming from a country where the number of productive working people is grossly outnumbered by those receiving government benefits I can only say.... pot meet kettle.
It's the new nomral for us all.... sadly.
Put Eric Holder and Valerie Jarrett in camo and send them to the Ukraine....the crazy bastards would never expect it.
leeeetttts get ready...to seeeeeeelllll DC US boooooonnnnds...
This was their display model and they had to take it out for the show.
The only problem is, that thing is set on Autopilot for US Airways' Twitter twat lady... Film at eleven!
Four words;
Boeing Uninterruptible Auto Pilot (actually, the last two words are hyphenated, but reflect the BUAP acronym as released, and equipped in every 777, and all Boeing aircraft by 2008). The 757 and 767 BUAP program was well under way before August 2001. I watched the shorts on UAL and AMD, and I should have bought in, I suppose (but then I'd be hunted as being 'with the terrrists' [or, maybe not]).
It's a pretty cool Lion graphic on the ONE F-16 they're sending, though. I wonder if it has one of those thingies that 'pings' when going in to a sea or ocean?
Israeli + Boeing drone program...
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/the-man-who-invented-the-predato...
Can I make a suggestion....since so much of this boils down to who's going to pay the Ukranian gas bills.
Instead of spending billions and billions of dollars in sabre rattling exercises....why don't we just write out the check to the Ukranians. Just write it out...$10 billion. boom done. It will save us all a lot of trouble.
Would probably be cheaper too.
Crazy talk. An idea like that will cut into Haliburton's, Blackwater's and Lockheed's profits.
Well, HELL! The big M's (in the MIC) need a funding source, don't they?
IF I had a bank that could print up money and loan it to BOTH sides, and I needed to (wanted to, because I'm a greedy, avarous, arrogrant prick) make a quick PROFIT, I think I might just offer the Ruskies AND the NATO fuckers some more CASH (at easy terms), and perhaps send in some private contractors to 'destabalise' the region. a few CIA people, a few MI^'s, and a few whatever they call the SPETZNAZ now... add to it, a shortage of oil (which we control because WE loan those companies all the dollars for 'exploration'), and a food crisis (because WE own all the food producers), and throw in a few 'independence' people just to be safe... and WATCH as the Hegelian Dialectic again takes shape!
NAW, it wouldn't be any deeper than your comment makes it. Forgive me, as I yield to your shortsighted viewpoint. (sarc)
And it takes the blimp of an eye to print it.....
won't work...they want no dollars
The West's banking system never makes transactions face-to-face! (can only go through various money-laundering channels [public or private]) And if the Russians don't like that then they'll have to face war! </sarc>
If you have that kind of balance in your personal account, then have at it... Don't include the rest of us in your generous offer though as I'm down to my last billion and have to make it last...
What are they going to say?
"If the Ukrainian military isn't going to shoot up their own people to defend Ukraine from other Ukrainians, then we, NATO, will do it for the Ukrainians on behalf of those Ukrainians who won't defend themsleves from other Ukrainians. We will bomb and maim Ukrainian babooshki e dyeti*, Afghani-style, on behalf of the Ukrainian people to save them from the Ukrainian people. We are white. We are Western. We know what's best."
*Grandmothers and children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozSZ6Kj5-A0
not that the Russians didn't have similar reactions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPsGDsnNGE
How dare you down arrow the big ugly fat fucker'
Well, NATO obviously wants a pissing contest.
Too bad that lots of 20 year old boys will be butchered in the process.
But on the plus side, a lot of asshole war profiteers — er, freedom-loving defense contractors — get to pad their wallets. Smell the fascism!
Heil-five, bitchez.
worse than that... some creatures on this planet want normal civilization and specific nations destroyed. all about power and what they want the world to look like going forward. and yes, they would be considered insane.
maybe not insane!
selective processing and all.
They love the smell of fascism in the morning.
The twenty year old boys have a choice.
The 20 year old boys will be in fifteen year old planes. These need to go to create a viable market for the F-35 and revive the US economy.
Nobody will be butchered. They'll hire Milo Minderbinder to take care of all the details.
+1
Catch 22
Where are all the Snowdens of yesteryear?
If this shit goes down, it's going to be millions of people of all ages.
I think you seem to have underestimated. You aren't thinking globally, and in 'natural' terms, here.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
SO, how can these goals be met?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRKDAPyfv7Y
I think you KNOW how.
Russia does not want to kill the populace, they need em, it is NATO they want a chance at. When Russia hits em..it will be like a hot poker going through butter...
NATO can piss all it wants all over their member countries' territories and in international waters, Russia couldn't care less. If NATO engages Russia in a war, whole populations will be wiped out in nuclear strikes, not just some 20 year old boys in combat.
It would seem all options are on the table.
Alexander Grushko, Permanent Representative of Russia to NATO:
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_16/Russia-to-take-all-measures-to-provide-national-security-Permanent-Representative-to-NATO-9121/
“We should find out in what way will NATO plans affect Russia’s security and the security of its allies. Anyway, we will take all measures to prevent any threat to our security and stability,” Grushko told Russian journalists.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_16/Russia-to-take-all-measures-to-provide-national-security-Permanent-Representative-to-NATO-9121/
NATO increases its sortie rate.
The increased sorties result in higher fuel consumption.
Higher fuel consumption results in increased purchases.
Increased demand results in higher oil prices.
Ka Ching! Russian economy booms, EU not so much.
Putin: "You are putting such a hurt on me! How about another 1,000 bbls?"
On the matter of insolvent Western nations helping insolvent Ukraine to pay its bills, plus insolvent Western government nutcases needing a rapid injection of funding for their latest foreign adventure, I find it intriguing that the local price of gasoline just jumped $.20 overnight. The few gas stations that delayed jacking their prices had long lineups.
Question: If you need to raise a few billion dollars quickly, both in terms of profits to the oil companies and royalties to the western governments, and in a way that helps destroy the middle class and avoids creating an unwanted spike in money supply and debt, wouldn't this do to the trick? And so should we not watch for it to happen again and again, as the psychopaths advance their destructive dreams?
No one has to engage in any backhanded way to increase oil prices. Just let the markets do that... It's a certainty that, with fossil fuel reserves in decline, this will be the case: "price" meaning" affordability.
Well, we know all the markets are manipulated, more or less depending on various factors, but I like your equation of "price" with "affordability," particularly in the context of local real estate. The word "Affordable" seems to be bastardized as a way of expressing "Cheap" in the context of "Affordable Housing." Every house has a price!
Tony, you say "stoned" like it is a bad thing.
indeed i wonder about the morale of these nato troops. do they not realize, just a little bit, how badly they are being used/abused? ukraine is obviously not a nato member. no poll i've seen has a majority of ukrainians supporting nato membership. however if ukraine loses more territory that could change.
i'm reminded of the hessians against the american revolutionaries.
All together now 2.. 3.. 4 ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ4qhOXMkpQ
The classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W7-ngmO_p8
DAMN! Now you got me all revved up and ready to go!
A good soldier never questions; never considers; never thinks; never feels.
The individual is not as important as the Collective (of individuals that tell everyone what to think; what to feel; what to do).
I'm volunteering for my eigthth tour over in Afghanistan, RIGHT NOW! I'll show those commie terrrrist muslim rice-eating atheistic wop sheenie homo raghead sandnigger kraut jap Russkies who's REALLY boss! FUCK YEAH!
I'll teach THEM! OBEY your MASTER! I DO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnGuLKXlX7A
Well, at least some of us aren't war pigs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0
I note that it is interesting that war and financial news are forever intertwined; as I am commenting about a possible nuclear war (and it's ramifications) on this financial blog.
The Zero Hedge site has been a wonderful source of REAL information for so many. I hope and pray that it will continue to be so (and that life will continue for all of us here, as well).
I'm not a pessimist, or an optimist. I'm a REALIST.
Netherlands! Now that's a force to be reckoned with!
As Lynard Skynard said in "Gimme 3 Steps"....'Scuse Me! lmao
They just need to figure out how to aerosol bomb the entire area with kind bud, and pamphleteer it with free whorehouse vouchers ...war avoided!
I'll risk my life for that....
The Ukraine is an orange.
The IMF is a juice extractor.
Here is what Austin Powers' dad had to say about the Dutch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ882QYzr-M
I can hear the pilot on that plane over the radio now...
"Hey everybody, I'm from Holland! Isn't that weird?"
God I do love that movie.
Shmoke an a flapjack? No? Pipe and a pancake? No?......
Had to track down that movie line/quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5DZexDYyuU
Someday I need to watch that movie again...
Clue to the "D" HS
your 1.5 billion rounds are worthless to those who cannot shoot straight.
or believe that the target needs to be shot.
Wait till the Dutch send in their mountain troops. That will show ´em.
now THAT was funny!
dutch troops only operate from the hours of 8-5
You forgot to mention the 1 hour lunch break.
Peter Cook weighs in ...
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCgQt...
Also forgot the birthday/event celebrations.
I'd worked for a US-based company that bought up a segement of Phillips. We discovered that at one of the offices over there they were celebrating a birthday nearly every day (larger number of people at that office). That got nixed!
I've known some good Dutch people. I've also known some bad ones. People are people...
I hate the Dutch
Well, it is fact futbol Dutch and futbol Russians hate each other..
I remember one favorite Siberian Lady calling Dutch futbol women "all Sukas with tittes like ears of Spaniel!"
Siberians are good poeple.......
I guess there's 4 people that didn't get my Nigel Powers "I hate the Dutch" reference
......There are two things I hate
The bloody Dutch were particularly valiant and distinguished themselves in protecting those refugees in Bosnia back in the Serbian war !
The ones in the white camouflage Wolf ? Fucking funny !
Just ask President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho... I'm sure he'll fill you in...
Stop insulting President Camacho. He was a charismatic and decisive leader who knew his limitations and delegated tasks effectively.
Plus, he had the 'nads to let loose with a machine gun during a meeting with Congress!
Everybody is just acting like the "least stupid animal on the planet". It's all testosterone at this point.
Escalating are we nato? What for? Is Russia really a danger to the world? Any country on earth, however peaceful, can be driven into protagonism.
Shit is fucked up and BULLSHIT
The biggest danger to world peace in the US . . . . . . . . and Israel. It's fascinating watching the US slowly descend into a Nazi type regime, before our very eyes.
It's the System failing.
zionazis
I was just admiring your skin.
I need a new lampshade. Did I mention that work makes you free? Or was that...you'll work for free until you starve to death.
Ja! That's it....
Loud and stupid is Uncle Sam's default setting.
You better plug your ears cuz this amp goes to 11.
Fuck, Yeah!
Fuck yeah!
Edit: Holy shit...SEER beat me to the punch
his comma fucks it up though.
point, IndyPat.
I knew that I shouldn't have fired my editor! Sigh, times are tough...
Something very bad happened behind the financial curtain a year ago DoChen.
Looks like they cant keep it under wraps much longer, so TPTB are rushing us
into WWIII as a smokescreen.
There is a big disturbance in the farce, keep stacking, its the only thing we can do.
"loss of Syria."
that's my view at least.
"Beirut=Grenada."
"Mogadishu=Haiti."
"Syria=Russia."
I'm pro the first two. Ye olde Crystal (meth) Ball is a little foggie on Numero Tres here.
I'm thinking that your bias/chip is from war wounds from Nam... Seems that you and McNasty might get along well together.
Only two optons:
1) Admit you're bankrupt and bend over;
2) Refuse #1 and go to war (and become even more bankrupt- but, hey, might as well use as many toys as we can before they have to be given up!).
Let me offer up why. Hard to do in few paras, but we'll try.
Russia has a winning hand, but it is winning in a way far more pervasive than understood. It has nothing to do with Putin brilliance and Obama stupidity. It is a winning hand regardless of IQ. Specifically, their oil is going to last longer than Saudi Arabia's. Very quietly, US imports of Russian oil are growing, and this may be forever.
Whereas the Arabs might have been persuaded that destroying their customers with price increases hurts their own people/business, the Russians had their society already destroyed once by these same enemies. They have no Arab-similar perspective. If they destroy their customers, they also destroy their outright enemies. And when that "cycle" resumes function, they'll still have the oil and their enemies will still be begging for it.
THAT is why the US is forced into extreme positions. If they just look ahead a little distance, they see perpetual subordination. They don't like it. They can't accept it.
That is a good observation, Russia's oil would be the ultimate prize but not possible without a nuclear war.
The immediate concern is defending the dollar with bullets, hence the rapid escalation.
Must. Annex. Entire. Arabian. Peninsula.
Meh...we'll just FRACK our way to energy independence.
Never mind that we won't have roads for the sink holes and new fault lines rippling across the amber waves and what have you.
This is so fucking awesome.
Filling in sink holes sounds a tad shovel ready, right? Digging out Oklahoma City from a 8.7 quake means jobs!
They call me a pessimist and say I'm no fun at parties? Bullshit.
Silver linings...everywhere...you just have to squint your eyes a bit to see them.
That's the spirit!
Really, it's pretty stupid to be all dour when you go to slit your wrists. Change the attitude! Slit your wrists with glee and the world will appear to be a much happier place!
But, but...the ANWR! Drill baby, DRILL! (pathetic!)
That could be right, but their are options, and Russia are preventing the US and the western world from taking these options, Qatar has the largest LNG reserves in the world and are desperate to supply the EU and West. The only problem with this, is that Syria is pivotal to the establishment of the pipeline and Putin knows this, which is why Syria is now in its 3rd year of Civil War. Iran also has significant reserves and Putin has stepped in again to prevent this establishment.
No doubt the issue relies around Energy, but in my opinion they deserve what they get. The fact that the US government has patented batteries for example in stopping renewable energy and other patented rights has meant that it is too late to now ween themselves off oil and still grow expodentially to make sure that the debt / gdp ratio is not made worse and that they fall into recession.
The US has to grow in line with its monetary policies and they need long term sustainable gas and oil to do this or they need to heavily invest in alternative energy. (which is too late in the short term)
"The US has to grow in line with its monetary policies and they need long term sustainable gas and oil to do this or they need to heavily invest in alternative energy."
"Sustainable" and "finite" don't really work all that well together, unless, that is, you actually don't CONSUME the "finite."
If you do not get this then I suggest tracking down Dr. Albert Bartlett's presentation Arithmetic, Population and Energy to get a better understanding of how the world works.
Where's headbanger?, I feel the need to use his avatar...
Blocked arteries: fat, dumb and now broke
But at least a nuclear wasteland is the dry heat.
"I have no idea why the USA and NATO are being so stupid....."
Well how else are are shareholders of Lockheed Martin, Raytheon and all other defense contractors going to get their dividends?
The US and NATO intervention is driven by the humane desire to protect an endangered population of ethnic greenbacks that are being brutally abused and discriminated against in foreign countries. Those poor defenseless petrodollars!
NATO...Naive Assholes Tossing Off
I could hear views of an analyst all day long on the Ukraine crisis.....but the problem is...how to focus on what she is saying......when she is so pretty.
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/eu-divided-over-russia-ukraine-crisis-ana...
Albert Pike 1871..............
They want a new cold war, it's good for the elite, they can make a lot of money. Neither side gives a fuck about Ukraine or any other small country that gets in the way of their plans. Also handy as a distraction...
Here come the FLYING DUTCHMAN......that'll make Putin quake in his boots for sure !!! LOL !!!
One F-16 is more than enough.
You're giving Million Dollar Bonus a run for his money now.
Especially that one. Pimped out vinyl graphics and all. Awesome. Bet the landing gear has hydronic hoppers and the wheels have spinners.
Man, you're doing some outstanding work here!
I think they're just going for the "Pimp My Ride" look. Perhaps if they put a nice perl-metallic coat on there with some fleck.
Has Obama put 22's on the US Fleet yet?
They need lessons in diplomacy too.
I think an S300/400 or 500 could pretty easily find that Dutch F-16.
The NWO ziocons are insane. Obama, Nudelman, McCain and the rest along with the EU. Merkel and Germany better start saying Nein soon. Are the Dutchies full Red Shield now?
The Dutchies were "full Red Shield" before there even WAS a "Red Shield". The Netherlands was the destination of a lot of Jewish immigration and money after the 1492 expulsion from Spain. They helped the Dutch gain independence from the Spanish Habsburgs (payback!). They helped found the Dutch East India Company (think Indonesia), a first "modern "central bank", then (within a century and a half) funded Oliver Cromwell's overthrow and regicide in England--then got invited back to England, where they had (at least officially) been banned since the 1290's. Managed to remain in England even after the Restoration, and helped overthrow James II, then bring in old client William of Orange as his replacement. After that it was a piece of cake to found the British East India Company (India, then also China/Opium Wars, with help from fellow Jews Sassoons), the Bank of England, and the rest, as they say, is history. The Red Shield simply consolidated and advanced the work done by the Goldsmids, etc. History is interesting if you actually get past the wall of misinformation that passes for same in our academic and publishing industries.
My mom is 100% Dutch and grew up in a small almost all Dutch enclave in MI where the saying went "if you aren't Dutch you aren't much".
Well, now they have F-16''s, who knew.
That neighborhood has changed starting when the migrant workers stopped being migrants about 20 years ago. The purists moved to Zeeland, a small town next to Holland, MI. Also out into Overisel and Grafschaap. I lived in Overisel township for ten years. Good place to raise kids.
VERY conservative area. Hard working, down to earth people but they foster their exclusivity. Hope College was founded so that their kids wouldn't have to leave the area to get an education.
Dutch are smart and resourceful. Hell, their country actually GROWS in land mass every year.
And they have those bitchen wooden Crocks thingies...and the tulips and windmills and boys sticking their fingers in dykes.
Dykes over here don't dig that so much...
African Slave Ships all owned and operated out of Amsterdam...well documented
The paint job is part of a new Orange Crush soda ad campaign.
Gotta finance militarism somehow, ya know
Oh shite, I'm Dutch, ashamed to say. The minister of Defense is a young, blond, dumb b!tch and no, orange is not the color of our F16's but it doesn't matter cause this is the dumbest thing The Netherlands could do. The Dutch government is totally up the @ss of the US. It should consider whether the Dutch are fooled (again, as with the WMD in Irak) by the US and its notsosecret coupe in Ukraine, meanwhile blaming Putin. This could get out of hand, and guess what, you cannot really blame Ze Russians can you? This whole Crimean Ukraine deal stinks CIA for miles.
And meanwhile, America's foreign policy is dictated by AIPAC, so keep that in mind, when you see 'America' telling Netherlands what to do.
+50, HR.
You mean this Dutch Minister of https://www.google.com/search?q=dutch+minister+of+defense&ie=UTF-8&oe=UT...
and her qualifications were ?????????? ............................gun cleaner??
CURRICULUM VITAE
I have a vagina and tits.
That's it.
Paul, Ringo, John, and George.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/02/female-defence-ministers-tw...
Capt Chlamydia - - - how do you say "Oh shit !" in Dutch ?
I tried my iphone app - - - but the damned thing never gives out any of the good, useful words that normal people sometimes need to use.
No, the first coup was a peaceful and total organic uprising that was the result of the CIA handing out Chips Ahoy! cookies or something.
I also heard that some Russian in East Ukraine made a pissy YouTube video about the folks in west Ukraine.
Pretty sure I read that somewheres.
Oh shite, I'm Dutch, ashamed to say. The minister of Defense is a young, blond, dumb b!tch and no, orange is not the color of our F16's but it doesn't matter cause this is the dumbest thing The Netherlands could do. The Dutch government is totally up the @ss of the US. It should consider whether the Dutch are fooled (again, as with the WMD in Irak) by the US and its notsosecret coupe in Ukraine, meanwhile blaming Putin. This could get out of hand, and guess what, you cannot really blame Ze Russians can you? This whole Crimean Ukraine deal stinks CIA for miles.
I can see for miles and miles.
And you are correct sir
so there sending ONE f-16 ?
it should be shot down with a man pod just for sport and to wipe out the dutch "fleet"
"Call Obama, tell him we're getting in the game... we'll be sending an f-16". Ah ha ha ha, are they sure they can afford to lose an f-16? "Your mission, fly back and forth between Poland and Latvia, once a day, and twice on Thursday, try not to break the sound barrier ok."
On the other hand, poor Sergei, mewwed up with three fucking double digit amateurs; all blustery, and spewing talking points. He's got to be wondering if he is even in the right profession for god's sake. Seen the interview with Assad, Kucinich and the appalling douche-nozzle Greg Palkot? Gonna be like that.