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Nigel Farage Blasts "There Is No Consent For A United States Of Europe"
In one of his more vitriolic speeches, UKIP MEP Nigel Farage lashes out at the terrible deja vu being 'imposed' on supposedly democratic nations across Europe. "The whole European project is based on a falsehood... and it's a dangerous one.. because if you try to impose a new flag, a new anthem, a new president, a new army, a new police force; without first seeking the consent of the people you are creating the very nationalisms and resentment that the project was supposed to snuff out." Farage concludes, he is not against Europe but is "against this Europe," and this year's European elections will mark the turning point.
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Hey everybody, a new Farage Barrage!
Queue up plane crash 2........this time "get it right".......
Bad guys...USSA/Israel/UK/Saudi/Qatar/Japan
Bad guys...Russia/China/India
You forgot the EUSSR.
Good Guys -- Switzerland
Bad guys = NWO not the countries
I thought that went without saying. However, these nation's leadership are as complicit in all this as the people meeting at the Copenhagen Marriott next month.
You guys have it all wrong... Bad Guys = any country with a Rothschild controlled central bank. That only leaves N.Korea, Iran and Cuba. So they must be the Good Guys...
The US is as big as Europe. Americans should reject the federal government and bring the power back to the states and then eventually the people. The federal government once existed with the purpose of preserving liberty for all states. Now that it does the opposite we should stop paying taxes...STARVE THE BEAST...They can't put us all in jail.
Truth that, Lawdy. Good time to rewatch 'America: Freedom to Fascism"? R.I.P. Aaron Russo
farage for president.
Nigel states that no democratic states ever went to war with each each other. I am compelled to point out that in Weimar Germany Hindenburg (who was elected), appointed Adolph as Chancellor. Stalin won elections to the Central Committee for 25 years. Demockracy is simply the means through which those men, and their cohorts, acheived their ends. Divine Right of the Majority.
i thought no countries in which McDonalds exists, had ever gone to war with each other. Your dollars are your vote, not some paper prayer, offered in a dark booth to select from among the lesser of all evils.
in ww1, every democratic parliaments vote for war alonside the authoritarian one.
By the way at that time, German parliament are more representative than english parliament.
"In one of his more vitriolic speeches, UKIP MEP Nigel Farage lashes out.."
Maybe I was distracted, but I detected no vitriol in his talk. Seemed rather like a calm and reasonably well-spoken truth to power moment. I disagree w/his premise about democracies dont go to war w/each other, but that separate issue for a different day. Indeed, Farage seemed unusually calm (for him) to the point of almost resignation.
I have to agree with the Ungrateful-yid, I would add that the NWO has taken over the leadership of many of the countries and have expanded those govts to fit their plan all around the world so we need new leadership ASAP and we need to restore our govts.
Huh? All of Europe can fit inside Texas... on what dimension are you referring to "as big as", please?
Democracy is nature's way of getting people to embrace tyranny.
There is nothing natural about democracy. I've never seen a organism from a thriving ecosystem vote on production and consumption. Have you?
Its a ship this time. Over in Korea. Gotta mix it up ya know!
I concur ... the first thing I thougt when the news broke.
I agree with Nigel Farage on this. There is no consensus for a United States of Europe. And there is no USE.
There is, though, something like a proto-confederation, in certain focused areas. and a lot of federalist propaganda on both pro- and anti- EU sides
After this truth, he usually goes down the hill into populism, but hey, after all UKIP is a party specifically crafted to get the UK out of the EU
to which I say: please, Nigel, get Albion out of our club. we are not compatible. we don't mind Scotland to stay if it wants, btw
But they are trying desperatly to make one come into existance.
so you at least agree that the status quo is not of a federation. then Nigel in this speech seriously mixed a few angelic truth with a few turds from hell
so what? can you blame a minority of Europeans of asking for a federation? some think that a common navy would make sense. others think that some EuroBonds would make sense (though often it's London bankers). some even wish for a federal police, of all things. and some ask for federal taxes
Farage's own children have a German mother and a staunch English father, for criminy! He is himself spawning Europeans who might find the old nation "thing" outdated, in a generation's time. Currently, there are 8 million, and some projections give it for 40 millions in twenty years
the question is only how fast. and thankfully, we are creeping there. at this pace, it would take 500 years just to reach the federal status of the US before 1913
if now Uncle Sam would just stop pushing, interfering and make indecent trade treaty proposals...
Pushing towards a united federation is a bad idea, eventually the central government becomes too powerful and you end up having a crony state (like the U.S.). It is much healthier for countries to compete and trade with each other as sovereign nations. Homogenizing everything dramatically increases the risks because a uniform approach also ensures uniform failure.
there is no such thing as a united federation. the usual progression goes like this
1) friends - 2) allies - 3) confederates - 4) federates - 5) unitary state
the USofA was long time at stage 3, then long time at stage 4 and 1913-33 it broadly transitioned into 5
the EU is not even at the cusp of stage 3, in most areas. and no, the eurozone is a different club
I got a great BIG IDEA.
How about one world-wide govt. with the Chinese to run it?
They have 1000+ years experience with civil servants to iron out the bumps and create 'Harmonious Blossoms'.
Laugh all you want, but it would have serious trade advantages for some well placed enterprises.
Ghordo, you're conveniently forgetting the cataclysmic, bloody civil war that took America from 4 where it had been since the Articles of Confederation were done away with to 5 during Reconstruction. I'm guessing that's in the cards for a "United Europe" which is precisely the point NF wasmaking with the Yugoslavia analogy.
you had one huge civil war and we hosted most of two world wars. meanwhile we have a lot more differences, in our histories. it's still an American thing to mistake the current EU as "something like the US", conveniently forgetting that we are using a completely different sets of structures
separate, constantly rediscussed and redrawn structures, with shifting sovereign membership
Or, simply said in antiquity - birds of a feather, flock together.
your point can easily be resolved put it to the people, so stop sprouting shite only people working in the eussr, large multinationals and the rothschilds want a federal europe.
your point can easily be resolved put it to the people, so stop sprouting shite only people working in the eussr, large multinationals and the rothschilds want a federal europe.
That sour taste you have in your mouth is from an EU boot shoving their agenda down your throat. Same in the US and it appears there is little that can be done about it...
There might not be a USE in name YET, that's just a matter of convenient timing.
Recent EU criminal meddling in the affairs of Ukraine - for which the EU has NO authority - is exactly indicative of where it wants to go.
The sooner Barroso and a few of the Brussels elites are wiped out, the better.
for which you have no evidence, if I recall correctly. or at lease not any I have seen yet
Yet in one thing I do give criminal negligence to the EU commission: any trade deal between Ukraine and the EU should include Russia at the bargaining table
though my sources point to... "perfid Albion" as the instigator of a specifically disrupting scenario. and Uncle Sam as source of the request. and you know what? Moscow seems to broadly agree on this
Geez. So self-important. "... you have no evidence... at lease not any I have seen yet. I guess you told him (or her). I'm sure they've gone out to correct their impudent behavior and provide some evidence for your review. (perhaps they should refer to Nuland's leaked phone chat).
How can one take someone seriously who uses capitalization; just not at the beginning of a sentence. And also is not very fond of periods either except to preceed the word "and" for some strang reason.
ZH. Things ain't what they used to be...
you don't need to take capitalization seriously. or the way people type. arguments would be enough. which is yours?
The biggest problem is which of the big powers tolerate a USE? Russia, China or USA? I think USA only tolerate this formation if they can perpetually mantain their military bases and nukes to control us. So, Farage no need to worry about a USE. He could concentrate more about his UK and the subserviences to US.
The EU was planned and pusched by the CIA!
http://www.sott.net/article/268442-United-States-of-Europe-EU-was-create...
Hey Farage, Newsflash: "THERE IS NO CONSENT FOR A UNITED KINGDOM EITHER!".
Free Scotland! Free Wales! Free Northern Ireland!
As I have posted last Monday, regarding Farage... Mon, 04/14/2014 - 11:28 | 4656931
The EU and Germany are tied together. Which is good for both, but bad for The City (London)...
As Frankfurt rises as a financial and stock center, it takes away from London. It's almost a zero-sum game. This explains why the Brits -- and even Nigel Farage* -- want the EU to fall apart: To ensure that Britannia rules the (financial) waves... sort of. The Anglo-American alliance is symbiotic, or has become so.
* "Nigel Farage, who are you?" asks a libertarian investigative UK journalist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV-TbeGoQcs
What a dufus to compare the UK to the EU. Sheesh. And if you fantasize that Scotland will be "free" by leaving the UK teat and going immediately to the EU teat, you are a complete fool.
If his party were one of principle, rather than opportunistic populism, then Farage and UKIP would support the Scots independence movement.
However, as I've said many times before, this is the issue where Farage unfortunately reveals himself for what he really is.
And following the trend to local government,
soon we will be back to city-states and petty-kingdoms of warlords and serfs.
Or gangs and gang members.
Somewhere there is a middle ground compromise.
But is it ethnic, or national, or religious ?
Cannot be global, without a blended racial existence and one world religion,
which is the Liberal plan.
You make it freedom and local control sound like a bad thing.
"Free" means just that: Free. Free to trade with whomever you please, and have sovereign control of own currency and laws: Labor laws, taxation laws, immigration laws...
It is not you or I who define this for them, but THEY do.
IOW: "A people's right to assembly or disassembly shall be inviolate -- on any scale". If you truly believe in Freedom and Self-Determination.
Does this mean we shouldn't let the government tell us where the "free speech zones" are?
Spot on sir, it has long been my view that the only reason the English are in the EU is to destroy it from within.
Perfidious indeed. They have always known that the Europeans and in particular the Germans are their superiors in every sphere, which is why we had the previous two wars against them. All this shit in the Ukraine is most likeley the start of an attempt at the smashing of Germany once again. Just my gut feeling.
Interesting article ... where it all makes sense :
The US is prepared to plunge Europe into a war with Russia in order for Washington to preserve its hegemony over the transatlantic axis
... The key issues are the prevention of Russia and Europe developing closer trade and political ties - stemming primarily from a vast trade in energy fuels; and, secondly, the survival of the American dollar as the world's reserve currency. ....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f71_1397607774
+42. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
You NAILED it. That, my friend, is the really BIG PICTURE. People often lose sight of the forest for the trees. Mountain climbing provides us with clarity and view, but does take some effort. Hence, not a sport for Everyman. :-)
p.s. I wonder how many "got" my reference to something else with the "+42". ;-)
Nice link, it all makes sense in that context.
I keep telling my UKIP buddies on Twitter that we demand an exchange of Nigel Farage for Piers Morgan. So far they are resisting. But I don't consider this negotiable.
There was, but there is less and less consent for it -- given what our leaders and the TBTF have done to the country and the world.
The US would be better off, if broken into regions. Although the foreign parasites who depend on its largesse, would weep and knash their teeth.
Don't agree with all of Nigel's banter, but on this one key point he's absolutley right: Fuck The EU.
Victoria, in our age of online sarcasm, your statement is... more than ambiguos
I could be wrong but it appears he is saying that the EU is a force of oppression versus unity.
For clarity:
FUCK THE EU.
still ambiguos
when Victoria Nulad said that, she meant: we won't listen to the EU when it comes to Ukraine, we know better and we have different goals from them
is this what you want to say?
Fuck them however you like. Just fuck them. And learn to spell.
I learned to spell very well in three languages. English... well, came later. Lazy, I know
spellcheck dude. it's like one click.
sure. that thing that corrects Cyprus to Cypress? you have neither corrected me nor explained yourself, btw
I think he meant Fuck the EU in just about any of the infinite shades of gray slash ambiguous mental masturbation context your little heart desires, or not.
We got the "FU" part the first time. Shouting it louder does not make it clearer.
Therefore: what do you mean by that and why? To be clear...
It's ambiguous because it's not clear whether you simply don't like its present political and legal largesse of the EU, its policies, its ability to serve as an alternative market to the US (for Asians), or you don't like its countries and people. The label "EU" is a very large one, so it's valid to want to dig deeper as to what exactly you mean.
p.s. / Bonus points will be provided for a mix of simple, compound and complex sentences, arranged in a pyramid paragraph. /sarc
What - they don't have blanket statements where you live?
Farage never said "Fuck the EU," yo. That was Asst. Sec State Victoria Nuland as she discussed the principals of the then hypothetical right-wing putsch government of a puppet Ukraine. Less hypothetical now of course.
Groove to the slow jam version: https://soundcloud.com/acidpauli/fuck-the-eu while Eurasia burns, frater meus.
What's so 'vitriolic' about it?
The guy's just telling it like it is.
A very rare quality in politicians these days.....
exactly! no vitriol and I admire Farage for keeping his cool.
I would never characterize a Farage speech as 'vitriolic". Brilliant and brutal is more apt and this speech was very calm and reasoned. Personally, I love when he goes off on these dangerous buffoons.
The EU has grown too fast and beyond its original mandate of a Free-Trade Zone of intra-European countries.
The CBs and the Fed have quickly glommed on to the idea of an EU currency -- which sounds nice on the surface, until you figure out that this requires a CB for the EU (the ECB), and this in turn allows for huge purchases by the ECB of US debt (via The Fed & Friends). Eventually, thanks to the EU/ECB, the whole Eurasian continent gets into fiat-Debt to the US Fed. Sheer genius! Evil genius, but genius nonetheless.
p.s. And lest some here lose perspective (with the flashy, noisy toy: Farage, who loves to bash the EU for its lack of libertarianism, but not the UK for its own lack of libertarianism), The City loses gobs of dirty offshore money to other EU banking centers if the EU (and Frankfurt) get too strong. IMO, it's all about preserving The City, and with it the UK. Nigel might have started out as a Libertarian, but I think he has morphed into a Useful Tool of TPTB in the UK: London looks less like a dirty shirt if the EU shirts look dirtier.
Bottom Line: The UK is a far worse place than most places in the EU. Having spent years in both (as a student and careerist), I don't need to regurgitate stuff I heard or read. I actually know WTF I'm talking about. Your first and last impression of the UK and of London can be summarized in the view provided in the ride from Heathrow to Westminster, on the Piccadilly Line: Decrepit looking homes all the way, till you get to Central London and its POSH areas. I lived in South Kensington, and even there you had overpriced and drafty flats and separate water taps for cold and hot water (in the 90s). By contrast, the Nordic and Benelux countries, Germany, Austria, etc. win "hands down" in terms of quality of life and living standards. Why do you think so many Brits leave, or try to? Or have retired in Portugal and Spain? Could it be due to their meager pensions going further there, and the weather being much better? The UK... Pfff!
A politician is as a politician does.
The intelligent people in Britain have been leaving Britain since about 1630,
when the American experiment was starting to gain ground,
and when those people with foresight and enough money to leave Britain,
could foresee American success.
Social Biological Darwinism. Success breeds success, failure breeds failure. Literally.
The intelligent people get richer, the stupid people get poorer.
And what happens when all the intelligent people leave the Old Country,
and all the stupid people stay behind in the Old Country?
Self-fullfilling Destiny.
A lone sane voice in the wilderness. Unfortunately his comments will fall on deaf ears. The Eurocrats tolerate him the same way our red/blue statists tolerate Ron Paul. Sadly, it seems that they have decided to sic the IRS on him:
Ron Paul group to defy IRShttp://washingtonexaminer.com/ron-paul-group-to-defy-irs/article/2547261
Bwhahahahaha. He's a blowhard watching all his Russian investment scamming to down in flames.
Be interesting to see if the English have anything to say when their food prices triple overnight because of this clown.
You are a true idiot.
There is that...
I don't think you can seriously compare Ron Paul with Nigel Farage. I understand the wish for the comparison, but no, too many differences, imho
This topic could be interesting. Apart from the obvious style differences, they each strike a chord with their respective message.
If Nigel would call it what it is - the ESSU, the West Bloc - the idea that consent is involved would be clear.
Fight or die.
The EU was never meant to be built upon Consent, and no wonder it was Conceived by Fascists like Hitler and Mussolini and implemented by Marxists/Communists like Barroso and Von Rumpoy(Rumpelstilzchen).
Facism with a suit, tie and manicures instead of Panzers.
Pen is mightier than the sword!
Printing Press is mightier than the sword.
Is that the paper money note printing press?
Briliant Man, wish every country in Europe had their own "Farage"
There was absolutely nothing vitriolic about this speech, Durden! What are you talking about? You obviously haven't listened to many Farage presentations in the EU parliament. He gets MUCH more animated than this one, which was quite sober and spot on.
Farage: "...you are creating the very nationalisms and resentment that the project was supposed to snuff out"
In one sentence, Nigel Farage exposes the criminal dishonesty and complete fakery of the whole socialist European Union "Project".
The EU never was about any of the things that political slime like Barroso and every member state government claim. It was and remains all about creating a new European political powerhouse called the USE, run from the Brussels centre where democracy is discarded in favour of "we know best". Classic socialism which today has become fascism. Every last one of them needs to feel the rope around their neck.
Unintended consequences, or
Secretly intended consequences?
The New World Order is played on a Chess Board,
in which the number of possible future chess moves is difficult to foresee,
in the real world of people,
as compared to chess board pawns controlled by puppet masters.
Definitely secretly intended consequences.
I have an old copy document on my computer at home from the 1950s which sets out the future EU, written by its creators. And there have been many more since, all carefully making plans for a country called Europe under a single flag with pooled sovereignty. This was never going to be announced to the citizens of Europe for fear of scaring the horses as it were. Even the EU Constitution -- which became the Lisbon Treaty when a number of countries balked at it -- was written by a unelected French ex-politician and is another step in the direction of a USE. It has no legitimacy in my opinion.
What is clear -- and what you allude to -- is that the exact process and timing of roll-out is subject to modification and adjustment. and the financial crash of 2007-8 has added a lot of new challenges. But the likes of Barroso and others are working hard to keep the project on track, even if the timing is delayed. This is why Greece has not been allowed to leave the Euro or quit the EU. Ditto Spain, Portugal etc, even though it would be far better and the people of those countries would not be going thru a living hell as their economies disintegrate.
In the case of Britain, none of our political parties will ever get involved in public debate about the EU's secret plans for USE, except Farage. They all play down the huge transfer of sovereignty that's already gone to Brussels and deny that 50%+ of British legislation is now initiated in Brussels. Yet a recent leaked Tory Party document says exactly that.
The EU is by far the biggest political fraud that has ever been foisted on the citizens of Europe. It will not end well.
Oh.. Yeah, and he just characterized nato nations as either clueless puppets of the u.s. or complicitly engaging in illegal american thuggery. Way to go. The entire issue there is driven by financial motives, as usual. The bankers have all these countries by the balls, so what are they to do? Its no different from ww1 or 2 where countries were sacrificed for the desires of central banks, and we all serve as cannon fodder
"...if you try to impose a new flag, a new anthem, a new president, a new army, a new police force; without first seeking the consent of the people you are creating the very nationalisms and resentment that the project was supposed to snuff out."
BINGO!
If the EU is not careful they will wind up with something that looks like today's USA; a bunch of mufti-cultural groups all whining about how they are oppressed with no common denominator among any of them except the everlasting cry of 'more!' - that's 'moar!'
Its that multi ethnicity that will eventually be our undoing. Sorry, its true. It used to be a good thing in the old days with immigrants hacking it out together for a real u.s cause. Nowdays, shit is fucked up and bullshit. Everyone trolls each other for personal advantage. Race baiting, cultural inflexibility, immigrants who refuse to assimilate, immigrants who are in the us because they've gamed the immigration system, the world wide perception that america is an evil aggressor nation... in the last when shit gets really ugly in this country, many ethnics will show foremost loyalty to their mother countries, or cultures will band together against other cultures, unless mixed race peeps are being rounded up by fema guys with guns.. then they most assuredly will stick together.
+10 for the quote that will id you.
There will be a real quick consensus if Russia starts rolling through Eastern Europe.
loads of support for Nidge in Ireland,
cant wait for the election,
keep up the good work Mr Farage,
it took me a long time to understand that nigel farage is just the other side of the bank of england's strategy to control euro-skepticism.
it's not that farage is evil or wrong. he's well intentioned and seemingly good. it's just that he's not for the 'little' guy. he's for making him and his clan money.
if the pro-euro centric british bankers cannot make it work. farage is the bank of england's plan B.
how do you know? well, you never hear farage going on on about the overindebtedness of british citizens to their continually expanding set of british creditor class. all of whom borrow cheap from the bank of england and lend long to the masses.
you can tell who a person is as much by what they NEVER SAY as by what they always do say.
Farage should be prime minister of the UK instead of that NWO multicultural-hellhole embracing lapdog David Cameron.
Perhaps the Federal BI should immediately incarcerate Mr. Farage - He used the THAT WORD:
SOVEREIGN
He is obviously a threat to national security and an enemy to the state.
.
That arguably encompasses the majority of the life-forms indigenous to the planet.
"Consent of the People"?
Obviously a nutter. What a quaint and archaic notion.
The Rick Santelli of Europe.
Just another hand puppet to feed the masses common sense that will never happen.
So.
Nigel, the United States annexation of Europe, a key factor in driving the UK FIRE sector recovery, is now nearly complete. Thanks for your assist in maintaining the illusion of debate - Gin o'clock
It's bad enough citizens have to deal with the corrupt lying incompetents they actually vote for ... never mind the dangerous power-mongering unskilled idealist fools who are unelected!
NF is spot on ... the is all about massive unbridled powerful unaccountable opaque global government bureaucracy! Peeps better figure this out asap! They ain't gonna like the results those freaks will bring!
'Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither & will lose both.' - Benjamin Franklin
I have a man crush on Nigel, but on this point he is truly wrong.
There is an absolute Consent of the Majority of Europe to have a united europe funded by germany and Scandanavian countries. Take the populations of the PIGS, through in Ireland, and France, and you have a plurality of folks riding on the bus being pulled by the few.... There is no nationalist movement reconizable in any of those countries with the possible exception of France, and that is more anti-immigrant (polite way to say anti muslim) than anything else. The Nationalist movements are only in the Paying countries.
Ukraine will simply be sold the side with the best aide package, Russia will lop off the industrial east, and resorts, and leave the balance to the EU.... By the end of the year, whats left of the Ukraine will be in NATO and have an EU application in.
You only have to wait till May that a lot of European People, want to get the Fuck OUT, Of that Fascist element that want to take their livelihood and their PRIDE away. Watch the Italians, Portuguese, Greeks and Spanish what they are going to vote. Oh and IF the results do not fit with the TPTB wishes THEY ARE GOING BACK, again and again, till there is THE DESIRED Result.
Now you, go back to your EURO-Trough
Nigel is not against the globalist project, he just thinks the EU is doing it wrong. He's no better than that loudmouth George Galloway. Socialist pricks, all of them.
Yes he's socialist, in the sense he won't make tax voluntary.
I cannot cheer hard enough for Nigel & his UKIP team!
The Powers That Be are anti-democratic. They know what the citizens of the world would say if they were asked, so they are not asked. The big deals that are made are made in the name of national security and economic growth. And this is surely true, but only for the elites themselves. The rest of us are not needed, nor wanted.
Farage's is an 'ex' banker. Used to trade metals, and is more than likely aware of price manipulation. Probably regards it as a useful tool.
Tyler hearts Nigel Farage
If he says there is no USE then you better believe there will be a USE.