De-Escalation Off: US Deploys Troops To Poland

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So what part of "All sides must refrain from any violence, intimidation or provocative actions," did the US not understand when they decided that deploying troops to Poland was in keeping with the four-party deal? As WaPo reports, Poland and the United States will announce next week the deployment of U.S. ground forces to Poland as part of an expansion of NATO presence in Central and Eastern Europe in response to events in Ukraine.

 

 

Via The Washington Post,

Poland and the United States will announce next week the deployment of U.S. ground forces to Poland as part of an expansion of NATO presence in Central and Eastern Europe in response to events in Ukraine.

 

That was the word from Poland’s defense minister, Tomasz Siemoniak, who visited The Post Friday after meeting with Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon on Thursday.

 

Siemoniak said the decision has been made on a political level and that military planners are working out details.

 

There will also be intensified cooperation in air defense, special forces, cyberdefense and other areas. Poland will play a leading regional role, “under U.S. patronage,” he said.

So is that an escalation? or a de-escalation? or is it different when the US moves troops towards another nation's borders?

 

As a reminder, we noted in December, Russia's placement of tactical nuclear-capable weapons near the Polish border which at the time sent a very clear message of escalation (despite the, at the time, lack of New Cold War headlines). We wrote at the time,

Russia quietly has come through on its threat issued in April 2012, when it warned it would deploy Iskander missiles that could target US missile defense systems in Poland. From RIA at the time:

Moscow reiterated on Tuesday it may deploy Iskander theater ballistic missiles in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad that will be capable of effectively engaging elements of the U.S. missile defense system in Poland.

 

NATO members agreed to create a missile shield over Europe to protect it against ballistic missiles launched by so-called rogue states, for example Iran and North Korea, at a summit in Lisbon, Portugal, in 2010.

 

The missile defense system in Poland does not jeopardize Russia’s nuclear forces, Army General Nikolai Makarov, chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, said. 

 

“However, if it is modernized…it could affect our nuclear capability and in that case a political decision may be made to deploy Iskander systems in the Kaliningrad region,” he said in an interview with RT television.

 

But that will be a political decision,” he stressed. “So far there is no such need.”

Looks like a little over a year later, the "political decision" was taken as the need is there. But why does Russia need to send a very clear message of escalation at a time when the Cold War is long over, when globalization and free trade, promote game theoretic world peace (or "piece" as the Obama administration wouldsay), oh, and when Russia quietly has decided to reestablish the former USSR starting with the Ukraine.

We'll leave the rhetorical question logically unanswered.

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Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:02 | 4674084 quintago
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Go ahead and start a war. Then China can deploy troops to Taiwan, and North Korea can deploy troops to S Korea

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:13 | 4674114 McMolotov
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Isn't this happy horseshit exciting?! Is the US run by schizophrenic morons? Did someone give Obama the old "hey asshole, start a war or else" tap on the shoulder?

I'm not a religious man, but I sort of believe in karma, and I have a feeling the cosmic retribution that's coming for this country is gonna be a motherfucker. And if there are by chance any gods out there who are just, it's likely they're lining up for one hell of an unholy gang rape.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:16 | 4674125 Arius
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call them!  tell them not to worry about it ...

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:22 | 4674149 Alethian
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Well, best bring the tomato plants in.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:22 | 4674483 Tengri Temujin
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We need to be careful, Poland is like the jilted ex bitch of Russia looking for revenge and more than willing to be a bitch for America to get it.  However in the process they could get us all Killed.  Damn those Poles, just ask the Jews that survived Poland if there are any how backstabbing those little Pole assholes can be.

Let me go on the record that of all the poles I have met I have ascertained a certain 'prick' tendency and a slight amount of neurotic tendency.  Some kind of hidden anger like an abandoned slavic child left alone on the fringes of Europe.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:44 | 4674554 Volkodav
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what you describe as "prick" tendency..

I would say "chickenshit"

bent on attracting self destruction..

.

 

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:51 | 4674573 the_magician
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prick tendency sounds way cooler cats. way cooler.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:21 | 4674759 old naughty
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@Mcmolotov

the only morons are the ones who don't believe war will come.

How do they say (eh, sell) it...It's been fortold, ordained, centrally-planned, stone-written, hidden in plain sight...

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:23 | 4674765 flacon
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Good for another 50 points higher on the S&P then? 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 23:16 | 4674841 Tengri Temujin
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Before anyone drags me to the ZH tribunal to have my membership cancelled noticed that I did not accuse all poles of this I chose my words carefully and said of all the poles I have met, and that is certainly true with the ones I met.  As far as the general population I havent as of this time met every single one to make this assertion for the whole nation.  I am allowed to speak of personal experiences without being censored

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 08:30 | 4675072 Oracle 911
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Well if they don't get us killed, but certainly their steps (US and Poland's gov) will cause death of many NATO troops in Afghanistan.

Look NATO have 2 route's get in and out of Afghanistan, one trough Pakistan which is uncertain and one trough Russia, which is 100% certain, well it was certain.

I  mean Russia will block this route and Pakistan will its own route block to, and both country will get the support of China in this matter. So the NATO troops won't get provisions and chance to get out, at least legally, lot of them will end up as minced meat.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:52 | 4674578 dirtyfiles
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sound like you have anger management problem

you may need professional help

since when nationality describe personality?

does your black American president represent  your personality I guess not?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:39 | 4674691 the_magician
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He does. In more ways than one.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 06:37 | 4675125 Tengri Temujin
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http://rt.com/news/pentagon-poland-ground-troops-556

LOL.  I am not requesting 10,000 USA troops like Poland.   Those 'PO'le'S' are too damned lazy to even shed their own blood.  Out of a country of fifty some odd million people they cant muster enough ladies to fight.  I say ladies because the men are scared of their own blood when they shave.

I dont know about you guys but in grade school on the playground there was always that little prick that tried to get everyone into a fight going back and forth spreading rumors that he said she said and so on.  This is exactly where Poland sits at the table as.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 09:48 | 4675268 MarkAntony
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I am of Polish descent and I find all of your comments offensive. The right of Free Speech does carry a certain amount of common sense responsibility - of which you have shown none. Before you trounce on a particular nation or nationality, you should first become familiar with it's history. Poland is not a perfect nation by any means (show me a perfect one) however, your comments allude to issues you have absolutely no knowledge about.

 

Suggested reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Poland

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 10:32 | 4675360 Tengri Temujin
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Ok Markewicz Anthonykowski, easy with the bold and big type, its kind of rude dude.

By the way why don't you go to Poland any fight for your ancestry so a non Polish serviceman or woman in the USA armed forces doesn't have to die for your roots.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:12 | 4676142 dirtyfiles
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they die by the choice for the money not for USA what ever the country they send them to

if I remember corectly that was the polish special forces that seved bunch of lazy americans back in Irak during Bush war,so.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:49 | 4676401 Tengri Temujin
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The right of Free Speech does carry a certain amount of common sense responsibility - of which you have shown none

Funny how your qualifiers for the right of free speech are not in the Constitution, maybe at the next Constitutional convention you can add them in and you can sign the Constitution at the very bottom as Mark Anthony

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 11:04 | 4675431 Wolferl
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@ MarkAntony

 

Missed the part about the genocide the Poles commited to millions of Germans and about stealing German land in 1945 in your "suggested reading". Seems your knowledge of history is somewhat limited too.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:27 | 4675881 the_magician
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typical clueles nerd showing his masturbation skills. MAD! forget the fucking history, matey. its past. and fake. we have a hijacked polish goverment doing everything to accomodate the intrests and wishes of their pupeteers. whole history went to a fucking mist.in a fucking plane. i would slap you if i can. limp handed.

 

p.s. sorry for insults. self control is in short suplly nowdays 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:19 | 4674140 Old Man River
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Absolutely insane. I'm convinced that these global Bobs are hell bent on depopulation...just so long it's not them that's depopulated.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:23 | 4674152 McMolotov
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It would be a huge kick to the nuts if that Georgia Guidestones conspiracy theory turned out to be true.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:03 | 4674445 dow jones 20000
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Its pretty well established that the Guidestones are not a message for our time but a message to survivors/builders of some new civilization that emerges from the rubble of this one.

They're essentially an apocalypse-proof "How to rebuild society from scratch and not fuck up the same way we did" guidebook. 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:00 | 4674266 Bindar Dundat
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I would just like to remind the PTB with Nuckes that Canada is VERY underpopulated with less then 35M people.  Perhaps we should consider Japan...oh wait 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:10 | 4674462 sleigher
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More and more I consider the side of some mountian in the Yukon or northwest territories.  Just F all of this crap, so sick of it. 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:33 | 4674656 Cabreado
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"Absolutely insane. I'm convinced that these global Bobs are hell bent on depopulation...just so long it's not them that's depopulated."

I think you should consider being convinced that "depopulation" has nothing to do with it, and that sociopaths will be sociopaths, and the leadership landscape is finally Infested.

If you read into it too much, you will miss the simple...

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 17:27 | 4677900 laboratorymike
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You would be amazed how many people think:

"World War 2 made us prosperous and well-respected, therefore we need to start another war so we can go back to the good old days."

The greatest evils were committed by those who were convinced they were doing the most good.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 22:21 | 4674758 pigs-n-space
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I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."         -  Albert Einstein

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 23:19 | 4674844 Tengri Temujin
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wish he was right but there won't be any creature able to grasp any object left alive to throw anything, maybe those dung beetles in Egypt that roll the radioactive dung piles is about it.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 12:47 | 4675652 Loose Caboose
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Cockroaches and Keith Richards - the only survivors.  

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:42 | 4674217 sushi
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First a pivot to Asia.

Now a re-pivot to back to Europe.

With all this dancing around the next move will be to issue tutus to the troops.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 18:59 | 4674242 McMolotov
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They already have those for the drag shows.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:03 | 4674280 DeadFred
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Hopefully the tutus are are gamma ray resistant

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:26 | 4674344 cossack55
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Fuck the pivot.  Lets square:

 

Allemande left with the corner maid

Back to your own and promenade

 

resulting in more US troops in Georgia, Finland and Turkey.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:51 | 4674404 RaceToTheBottom
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Put the re-pivot back Europe on the back burner.

Make every government building in the world an armed camp.

Every consulate, every office building, every single post office. 

Make post-people drive around mobile missle launchers while deliver junk mail to people on welfare.....

 

Nothing better than full retard, except fuller retard.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 13:10 | 4675687 XitSam
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What? I thought the pivot was to jobs.  Like this is the 6th or 7th Annual Summer of Recovery or something

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:15 | 4674309 Lost_River
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McMolotov, you reminded me of this quote:

 “The wrath of God lies sleeping. It was hid a million years before men were and only men have the power to wake it. Hell aint half full. Hear me. Ye carry war of a madman’s making onto a foreign land. Ye’ll wake more than the dogs.”

Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian

 

I share your fear of cosmic retribution.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:56 | 4674414 McMolotov
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Yeah, McCarthy's words are just a smidge more poetical than what I wrote, which probably could have been said without the profanity. Sometimes it just pours out like a dam that's sprung a leak.

Let hope we don't all get to reenact The Road, what with the baby barbecues and all.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:20 | 4674486 Lost_River
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I like the profanity...I have to read McCarthy 3x to figure out what he's saying...you covered precisely the same ground and I got it the first time!

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:21 | 4674327 Leaping Lizard
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The Tylers

But why does Russia need to send a very clear message of escalation at a time when the Cold War is long over, when globalization and free trade, promote game theoretic world peace (or "piece" as the Obama administration wouldsay), oh, and when Russia quietly has decided to reestablish the former USSR starting with the Ukraine.

Are the Tylers trying to be "fair and balanced" even if they have to distort and twist facts like the rest of the USSA MSM?  They looking to engineer a merger with Faux News?  Exactly how has Russia attempted to re-establish the USSR prior to Ukraine being Nudelmaned a few months ago?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:22 | 4674645 TheReplacement
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I think that was sarcasm.  But to be fair and balanced, it takes two to tango and Russia has escalated things on their turns.  Does it not seem as if both sides will keep pushing until there is a fight?  I'm not talking about simply holding their ground but actually escalating and threatening.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:34 | 4674683 edotabin
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What even the most anti-MSM outlets won't tell you is that in an attempt to bring jobs back to the USA, return the world the world to a known state/order and combat global warming, they are building a huge refrigerator.

Never count on one source man

 

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:47 | 4674377 MarsInScorpio
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Mc:

 

If you get around to reading The Book of the Revelation of St. John the Devine, you'll have a much better understanding of it if you understand that the US, and not Russia or China, is the Great Whore.

 

Amazingly, the Book is a great read for our time.

 

It's ability to remain relevant to humanity is the reason it continues to resonate.

 

And for the open-minded, of which the slobbering hate-speech evangelical Denialists fail to qualify, its many accurate references to modern technology expressed in the manner of a person limited to his own 1st Century CE descriptive relationships makes it even more remarkable.

-30-

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 20:17 | 4674475 kchrisc
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Isn't this really run by Israel and the Zionists wagging the DC US and Western Europe dogs around for their pipeline benefit?! You know, the ones that always have others paying the price. That is until the next pogrom.

 

"If the Nazis sprung from anti-semitism, then where did the anti-semitism spring from?!"

 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 10:13 | 4675320 Uncle Remus
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Self-defense?

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 21:30 | 4674669 Totentänzerlied
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The guilty, culpable, liable, and responsible are almost always smart enough to die before the shit hits the fan.

"Apres moi, la deluge."

A whole century of people couldn't raise so much as a peep against living by ever more debt, and by and large they'll have the good fortune to have already bit the dust when the bill arrives.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:03 | 4674278 StupidEarthlings
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Not sure why eryone keeps sayin just cuz theres a war..china will invade suttin.

 

Not really related.

If thers a war..china will sit..wait..and scrape up the pieces.

 

Not that it matters..there will be no war..this is theater for all you commenters to keep u busy.

Sheesh.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 19:09 | 4674294 Truther
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Damn..... I had my slingshot ready.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 01:32 | 4674997 Peanut Butter E...
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Defense industries going Ecstasy over this news and for all you short term investors it's best if you start buying defense industry stocks

Moar fire!!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 05:31 | 4675101 IronForge
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Guess we can blame this on Mr. Brzezinski, Ms. Nuland-Kagan, and Company for their decades-long campaign to sabotage the USSR and then Russia via unscrupulous means at the expense of Ten Thousands of Lives and Millions Displaced the World Over.

One can say that they may be responsible for a good portion of any Terror Blowback we may get that stem from their Plans.  

I've been in Hostile Waters by Orders of Uncle Sam and Davey Jones; and I call Bullshit on their Geopolitik Strategies.  I say send them to the Front Lines with our Troops (with MREs, Field Rations, and Cots) until the Last of the Deployed Troops are recalled; and if the Troops are sent into Battle - they go along.

 

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