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How Americans Die

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America is growing older.

Nowhere is this more obvious than in the conversion of America's age pyramid into a rectangle from 1960 to 2050, as was shown in a recent post highlighting America's two 'slow-motion' social dramas. As the Pew Institute summarized "we'll have almost as many Americans over age 85 as under age 5. This is the result of longer life spans and lower birthrates. It’s uncharted territory, not just for us, but for all of humanity. And while it’s certainly good news over the long haul for the sustainability of the earth’s resources, it will create political and economic stress in the shorter term, as smaller cohorts of working age adults will be hard-pressed to finance the retirements of larger cohorts of older ones."


And as society comes to grips with the realization that the average age of America will hit new record highs with every passing day for the indefinite future, a new, and far less pleasant topic is sure to gain prominence. Namely: how Americans Die.

This should be intuitive: since older people die sooner than the young, even despite the generally declining mortality by age cohort, the sheer record number of aged Americans will soon drown out the incremental improvements in life expectancy.

But it is not only age that is a key issue: one surprising finding (in addition to a curious tangent of a brief spike in AIDS-related deaths in the late 80s and early 90s for the 25-44 year old cohort), is that over the past decade, motor vehicle accidents has lost its top spot as the primary cause of violent deaths across the population, handing over the title to both drug-induced deaths and suicides. 

Incidentally, in 2010, the number of suicide deaths was nearly four times greater than the number of Americas murdered by firearm. Perhaps it is time to ban suicides.

All these and many other curious observations surrounding this fascinating topic are revealed in the following interactive visual data compendium by Bloomberg's Matthew Klein.

So without further ado, here is a detailed look into How Americans Die.

First, it should be obvious that courtesy of numerous, life-extending advances over the past several decades, the morality rate has tumbled. Yet in recent years, it has been mostly males who have benefited. Overall progress stopped in the mid-1990s.


However the lack of improvement can be attributed to a simple factor: the aging of Americans, and specifially those aged 55 and over have risen as a total portion of the population from a little over a fifth of total in the year 2000 to a quarter currently.


Another obvious observation: old people die sooner than the young


Instead of breaking down the population into genders, looking at age cohorts over time shows a plunge in mortality across all age groups, with the biggest beneficiaries being Americans 25 and under.


However, something curious appears in the 25-44 age group sometime in the late 1980s...


That something was AIDS...


The AIDS epidemic was so bad for about a decade, the disease became the single largest killer of Americans in their prime, surpassing cancer, heart disease, and all other causes of death.


Of all races, however, the AIDS epidemic targeted mostly black men between 25 and 44.


Another curious observation: there has been no progress in mortality for the 45-54 year olds since the late 1990s.


This quandary is further compounded by the reduced mortality of cancer and heart disease - the biggest traditional killers of this age group - over the past several decades.


So what is the offset? Simple - a surge in deaths from two new killers - suicide and drug deaths.


As noted earlier, while until the mid-1990s, gun deaths outnumbered drug deaths, since then the number of gun murders has actually declined, while drug deaths have exploded. As have suicides. Actually perhaps it is time to ba suicides and drugs. Oh wait, somehow the pharma lobby wouldn't be too happy with that.


As for cars, no need to ban those: motor-related deathes have plunged to a record low, even with seemingy everyone texting and driving.


Safer roads, however, have been more than offset by an explosion in suicides, with representatives of the 25-44 age group most likely to take their lives.


Still, despite all of the noted curious patern shifts, the reality remains that most Americans are living longer and dying of natural causes.


If there is any bad news here, it is that as Americans get older they increasingly succumb to such debilitating, age-related diseases as dementia and Alzheimer's. Indeed, while there has been substantial progress in heart disease-related deaths, the total number of deaths in the 75 and older category has remained flat, precisely due to the increasing prevalence of such age-degenrative conditions.


Which means one thing is certain: the amount of spending on Alzheimer's and other age-related diseases is set to soar.

Source: Bloomberg


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Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:41 | 4675897 Motorhead
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Fuck, man, charts, bitchez!!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:03 | 4675934 EscapingProgress
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These charts are clearly inaccurate. Everybody knows that the only people who die in America die as a result of gunshot wounds. Get these weapons of war off our streets!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:14 | 4675952 negative rates
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It's behavioral bitches, there no need to spend any more money.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:33 | 4675980 max2205
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HFT front ran that too!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:24 | 4676047 James_Cole
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The cancer chart is probably misleading:

Nice charts though. And by the time 2060 rolls around  (if we get there) computers will have long been running the show so no worry about workers. 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:32 | 4676175 MontgomeryScott
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I LIKE THIS statement in the article:

"Another obvious observation: old people die sooner than the young" (smacks forehead with palm of hand in sudden 'Eureka!' moment)

At this point in time, trying to predict out to 2060 is increasingly difficult to do. GMO's, fracking, The Gulf oil spill, chemtrails, Fukushima, Chernoybl, Harry Reid, 'TERR-R-RISTS", cops who shoot dogs and people, the possibility of WW O, North Korean EMP's, SSRI's, Gangstas, Bankstas, and other variables have NOT been factored in to this article.

I hope that when I hit one hundred, the FedGov.INC. will keep their promise to exempt me from any taxation. They WON'T, though, and I know it as well as you-all.

AH... computers running everything! THAT will take the stress off, won't it?




Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:44 | 4676194 SWRichmond
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Suicide rates for men are three times that of women.  In some age groups it's worse.  Where are the walkathons, colored armbands, blue ribbon panels, awareness telethons?

If it's not a WOMEN'S health issue, it's not an issue.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:54 | 4676325 Wait What
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it's because the increase in suicides is disproportionally war vets. they can't just throw out psa's on the matter cuz it makes America look like it's not taking care of its war wounded.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:30 | 4676381 i_fly_me
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". . . cuz it reveals that America isn't taking care of its war wounded."

(fixed that for ya)

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 21:14 | 4676433 Anusocracy
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I suggest a concerted effort to support SENS:

Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence (SENS) is the term coined by British biogerontologist Aubrey de Grey for the diverse range of regenerative medical therapies, either planned or currently in development,[1] for the periodical repair of all age-related damage to human tissue with the ultimate purpose of maintaining a state of negligible senescence in the patient, thereby postponing age-associated disease for as long as the therapies are reapplied.[2]

By enumerating the various differences between young and old tissue identified by the science of biogerontology, a 'damage' report was drawn, which in turn formed the basis of the SENS strategy. The results fell into seven main categories of 'damage', seven alterations whose reversal would constitute negligible senescence:

cell loss or atrophy (without replacement),[4][13][14]
oncogenic nuclear mutations and epimutations,[15][16][17]
cell senescence (Death-resistant cells),[18][19]
mitochondrial mutations,[20][21]
Intracellular junk or junk inside cells (lysosomal aggregates),[22][23]
extracellular junk or junk outside cells (extracellular aggregates),[18][19]
random extracellular cross-linking.[18][19]

For each of these areas SENS offers at least one strategy, with a research and a clinical component. The clinical component is required because in some of the proposed therapies, feasibility has already been proven, but not completely applied and approved for human trials. These strategies do not presuppose that the underlying metabolic mechanisms of aging be fully understood, only that we take into account the form senescence takes as directly observable to science, and described in scientific literature..

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 02:34 | 4676735 Four chan
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Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:32 | 4676601 snr-moment
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Speaking of PSA's..........will that still be covered?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:38 | 4676992 fattail
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It also makes people acknowledge the real cost of war and thus less likely to support the MIC next money making racket.


Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:51 | 4676100 Canoe Driver
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As for Aids mortality, read Peter Duesberg. He predicted the precipitous decline in mortality shown above, and it tends to confirm his Aids causality hypothesis. His work is being suppressed by a profiteering orthodoxy. It is absurd to attribute the decline in Aids deaths to safe sex and medicine. The population subgroups with the highest mortality from Aids were not the subgroups adopting safe sex practices, and neither could they generally afford the relevant medications, which in any event are of quite limited efficacy. In sum, the public has been deceived yet again.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:34 | 4676605 snr-moment
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How about we attribute it to the fact that they died.  Alot like the hemophiliacs.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:44 | 4677006 fattail
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Of course the suicide rates have been skewed much higher due to the prevalence of nail guns and bankers.

I can't believe I am the first to make this connection.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:44 | 4675901 The Shootist
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Awesome, thanks ZH!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:35 | 4675982 max2205
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No nail gun category? 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 00:05 | 4676632 Flagit
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No nail gun category?

nope, we's goin OLD SCHOOL.

this crucifixion has been brought to you by Home Depot.

its much better when viewed with the proper background music.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 00:06 | 4676638 Flagit
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stupid vote arrows

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:15 | 4676694 ebworthen
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Drugs to escape the insanity of modern society; or the ultimate escape - suicide.

You don't have to deal with the lies or the pain with drugs or suicide.

People used to have more to live for.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:49 | 4677025 boogerbently
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I work in a hospital emergency room. At any one time, about 20% of our patients are there for "mental" reasons.

Anxiety, PTSD, bipolar, schiztophrenia, suicidal ideation.....

We have been leaning towards two complimentary ideas.

The easy way out, drugs (prescribed or not) and suicide, and a lack of respect for life (abortion, increased media violence, reduced sentences for murderers.)

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 09:50 | 4679218 fallout11
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Overpopulation trends increase the lack of respect for life. The more people there are, the less each life is worth on the whole (life is already really cheap in many parts of the world). This is why democracy, as a concept, cannot survive overpopulation.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:44 | 4675903 Semi-employed W...
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Chart porn gang bang!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:05 | 4676129 asteroids
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If you are 45-54, you are being worked to death and stripped of your assests at the same time. That's why your mortality rate isn't improving.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:12 | 4676249 10mm
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48 and fuck and sleep. 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:43 | 4676615 bigkahuna
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If u r 45-54 you have realized that they slaved your ass out for the most fun part of your life and you are too much of an old crusty bastard to do much about it now - so u r probably a bit irked.

It is difficult because we can tell the next generation to not let their lives pass them by - but it does no good. Either they slave it out the same way we did, or they end up in JAIL! (and that is probably worse than being a slave)

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:54 | 4677036 boogerbently
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We need to identify these potential suicide victims and have them kill someone that NEEDS killing.

The "respect for life" issue obviously isn't a problem.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:33 | 4677248 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"...and have them kill someone that NEEDS killing."~

Uhm..., looking at the charts, I'm guessing that's going to be "grannies over 85 years of age". So here are the problems with that idea:

1.) Not a whole lot of sport in that now is there?

2.) They take much longer to cook as they are rather chewy unless stewed for hours.

3.) Really puts the kabosh on festive holidays.("Where's grandma?" "We ate her for Lent.")

4.) May screw with your relationship with your kids. (So how old are you really, Mom?")

5.) Increased chance of firearms accidents in the home. ("Is it true grandma sleeps with a gun?")

And lastly...

6.) It doesn't matter how much you smoke her, she still won't taste like ham!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:45 | 4675905 wee-weed up
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ObozoCare Death Panels should solve the problem of too many old folks living too long.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:04 | 4675938 EscapingProgress
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I bet those staffing the death panels will have excellent healthcare plans.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:37 | 4675985 DosZap
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ObozoCare Death Panels should solve the problem of too many old folks living too long.



Folks wth pre-existing severe conditions are ALREADY being denied care.No Dr.s accepting them, or the ACA Plans.Terminally ill, and dependent on meds and their Dr.'s are NOW being dropped.Folks signed up, to ACA and PAYING prems, cannot find a Dr. that will treat them, and the one's that WILL, turn  them down due to overload already(and they are returning to Free Clinics),or help.(who BY Law,are not supposed to treat them!!).

Nothing like paying for insurance, and unable to get ANY treatment.

Did they not expect a graying of society, when they have aborted 53-55 million POTENTIAL taxpayers, and the two generations that WOULD have been born and of age to NOT cause this.Murder always has consequences.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:59 | 4676566 FredFlintstone
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Bout time. Old folks don't pay for insurance. There is no insurance for old age. Medications are a scam.

Live, enjoy life if you can, then die.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:18 | 4676696 ebworthen
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If I get to that age and this society won't treat me I'll take more than a few with me on the way out.  Just sayin'.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:44 | 4676886 FredFlintstone
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The large majority of people in their 70s and 80s are walking around with some form of cancer.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 16:30 | 4677784 Gavrikon
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Nyeh, we men almost ALL will have prostate cancer.  Usually die with it rather than from.  

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:46 | 4675906 Oldballplayer
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Black backgrounds with Neon colors.  Yeah....those are readable.  Not.


Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:51 | 4675913 Omegaman2211
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I almost died of boredom reading this and staring at these charts.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:15 | 4676030 MillionDollarBoner_
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Maybe u should be catching up with the Kardashians instead...

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:14 | 4676354 gdogus erectus
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Skip to the death of over 75 YO. That will get you excited. Death rates in this category increased dramatically due to the airial spraying of aluminum and barium coated particles starting in the early 90s.

Please, please search on "chelation of aluminum" to figure out how to get aluminum out of your system. Simple common foods remove it. Your life may depend on it.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:52 | 4675914 Omegaman2211
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But ZH is still my drug of choice

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:52 | 4675916 debtor of last ...
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First slowly, then suddenly... Happy easter bitchez.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:57 | 4675920 D-liverSil-ver
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Over a Million abortions every year will make a society older.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:57 | 4676332 ImReady
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... and safer. 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:23 | 4677336 boogerbently
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Let's allow retroactive abortion. (Hey, they STILL came from a womans body, her RIGHT, right?)

Allow it to age 30, if they are still underproducing (live at home, drug users, receiving govt assistance, uneducated.....) give mom an incentive to OFF the little usurper ! Think of the LIFETIME of nanny state $$$$ we'd save killing the younger ones.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:59 | 4675922 One And Only
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An off shoot of this argument is obesity.

So the prevailing thought is that certain types of food make people fat (trans fats etc). I don't subscribe to this idea at all. I eat tons of fatty sugary foods and I'm a lean 6 foot 175 lbs. So....why am I not fat? It breaks down to genetics.

So why are there soooo many fat fucks around? As Tyler pointed out - modern medicine. It's not that the food is making people fat it's that medicine is allowing fat people to live longer. A few decades ago if you were fat, you well, died (of pretty much anything) and thus there wasn't a glut of fat people. If you have the ability to keep every fat person alive for as long as possible you're going to have...more fat people right? And now with free healthcare for every degenerate out there, you can be sure to see the population of fat degenerates explode.

While I have the genetics that would make Adonis blush with jealously I am now being subject to ridiculous laws and regulations that have nothing to do with me. I want my food to taste good and it just so happens that fat, sugar, and salt make my palate wet with satisfaction. I like my greasy burritos deep fried and my super sized drinks extra sugary.

But they will hammer that propaganda into you - guns kill, spoons make people fat, pencils misspell words. It's all a ruse so they can regulate you until you want to fucking kill yourself, which as noted in this article is happening.

"If the people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:17 | 4676033 MillionDollarBoner_
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'taint the meds, 'tis the eny fule kno ;O)

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:20 | 4676700 zhandax
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The human body was designed to run on carbs.  How many fat Asians do you know?  If you don't want to be fat, stop eating fats.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:41 | 4676078 James_Cole
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So the prevailing thought is that certain types of food make people fat (trans fats etc). I don't subscribe to this idea at all. 

lol, congratulations on your insight good sir. One day, gawd willing, you shall be crowned chief ceo of Idiocracy. 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:05 | 4676344 One And Only
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Sir, I thank you for your kind and astute response. It was a response I will spend many hours reflecting upon.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 21:21 | 4676441 James_Cole
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You seem to mean well but eating healthy foods & exercising is actually important to ones general health - particularly as you age. And we're all aware genetics play a factor..some people smoke into their 90s but most don't. Not rocket science. 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:54 | 4676561 One And Only
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We all fall apart as we age.

Life is a terminal condition.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:46 | 4676618 snr-moment
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For us all Adonis, for us all.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:08 | 4676577 willwork4food
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@ the one- fantastic! I used to eat tons of ice cream. Chocolate with nuts, whipped cream. Doc had me in one year and gasped that my cholesterol was about 320. And I am the same weight and height as you, with a physical job. Had to give up so much ice cream and switched to beer instead. Now my cholesterol is a little over 200 but my wife bitches at me when I pass out on the front lawn.  But I feel great! :)

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:21 | 4676588 One And Only
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I'm really sorry you pass out in the lawn.

That's not my problem. I don't give two shits about you either but I do wish you the best.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 00:24 | 4676654 willwork4food
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WTF man? It was a joke. Kind of. My main point was to help you save your ugly ass and make sure your blood levels aren't too high even though you look fit and seem like the picture of health. You're welcome.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:08 | 4676239 infinity8
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You're certainly under 50 and probably under 40 yr's old. Most of the food that most people eat regularly is poison. And the effects are cumulative. And there's a lot of skinny type 2 diabetics, imminent heart attacks, and high blood pressure cases.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:08 | 4676323 One And Only
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Most of the food is poison due to atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons and various nuclear accidents reported and unreported so you're fucked no matter what.

However if one wants to have a conversation about a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine as it pertains to the longevity of ones life we most certainly can do that. 

For those who force feed themselves quinoa and unbleached whole wheat crackers let me tell you about John Adams. John Adams at age 15 was admitted to Harvard. A founding father who helped draft the Constitution and a man who predated anything we would refer to today as "medicine" or "medical practice". He was the 2nd President of these United States and he died July 4th 1826; he was 91.

At age 15 Adams was admitted to Harvard, where his diet was described as "very poor." His breakfasts consisted of beer and bread. Adams started smoking intermittently at age 8, continued until at least age 70, and probably beyond. Adams also chewed tobacco, at one point betting a pair of gloves with his landlady (Mrs. Willard, 1856) that "she would not see me chew tobacco this month." The result: "Adams loved tobacco too much to give up the weed" He ate red meat often and could barely go a day without drinking.

So how is it that a man who began smoking at age 8, chewed tobacco, drank to excess (lots of sugar), and had a poor diet live to age 91 without modern medicine and accomplish all the things he did?


The double helix you were born with is very much different than the double helix I was born with. We all handle existential variables in different ways and we're probably going to die from different reasons and different factors. I will tell you that if we start blaming food for the fact that our society is fat and stupid than perhaps we have crossed the Rubicon into the realm of absurdity, and that is a path we shall never return from.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:13 | 4676352 infinity8
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"So how is it that a man who began smoking at age 8, chewed tobacco, drank to excess (lots of sugar), and had a poor diet live to age 91 without modern medicine and accomplish all the things he did?"

No GMO's, b.s."fillers", aritificial flavors and colors, pesticides and herbicides, highly processed everything with unneccesary added sugars, syrups, thickeners. . . I could go on. I smoke and drink plenty but actually use my body and eat real food, which is what I believe has kept me in much better shape than most people my age that I know. If it wasn't for the Einstein hair, people think I'm in my 30's and I'm pushin' 50. They are KILLING us with the FOOD!

And, I do not disagee that genetics is definitely a factor.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:46 | 4676398 One And Only
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We can agree that grapes and lettuce are good for you right? If all you ate was grapes and lettuce you'd probably die of some strange ailment. But that doesn't mean that grapes and lettuce aren't good for you.

Everything we eat isn't "good" for us. That's why we have white blood cells, a liver, kidneys, etc.

The things I say require a bit of common sense and critical thought. I'm not writing the bible here.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:39 | 4676535 infinity8
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On a long enough timeline . . .

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:13 | 4676582 willwork4food
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Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:49 | 4676313 MontgomeryScott
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I sort of understand what you are trying to state, but you are not fully awake as of yet, 'One And Only'.

Genetics; and Trans-humanism in general, have very little to do with the reality of the plague of trans-fats and medicinal nostrums that are currently plaguing humanity en toto. A scrawny fuck like yourself MUST realize that 10 donut-eating pigs with tazers and sidearms, weighing 260 +, can easily, effortlessly take your life from you. A blob of a human in an electric Wal-Mart chair could easily box you in and push you until you rupture, against the dairy coolers (should they be deciding to go for the trans-fat Margarine, over the irrelevant life of an 'able-bodied person' like yourself).

YOU don't think that these LAWS have anything to do with YOU, huh? "...I am now being subject to ridiculous laws and regulations that have nothing to do with me..."

A fool and a blind man try to lead others by their pathetic experiences, which are neither experienced or realized by others. It seems to be the MEME of one who has been taught that 'as long as it doesn't affect ME, I do not and WILL NOT care about it', and that the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE is "I want my..." "satisfaction" (cut-and-pasted from your own comment, and from a sinlge sentence therein).

An adult with the emotional makeup of a seven-year-old is SURELY not what Zero Hedge is about, man-child.


Translation: Young, dumb, and full of Cum. Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the style of sex that the Greeks were known for; namely, males buttfucking each other; masturbation with objects inserted in to their rectums; self-pleasure.

I'm as sure as YOU are that you are very pretty when you stand in front of the mirror and masturbate.


I was curious to see why so many were downvoting your comment. Sorry if mine is too 'close to home' for you. Give it a little time, and stop being obsessed by your genetically-enhanced pretty-boi status. They LIKE your type in prison, you know. FEMA is just a step or two away, for those such as you, young man.

(KIDS! They are SO PROUD, when they are young and stupid, don't you think?)



Sat, 04/19/2014 - 21:09 | 4676387 One And Only
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Quite a verbose comment. I clearly struck a nerve with you as most of your post is laced with ad hominem attacks, and clever as they were, you failed at attacking the message. Let's address the bold section as that was clearly the most important to you. 

"A fool and a blind man try to lead others by their pathetic experiences, which are neither experienced or realized by others. It seems to be the MEME of one who has been taught that 'as long as it doesn't affect ME, I do not and WILL NOT care about it', and that the MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE is "I want my..." "satisfaction" (cut-and-pasted from your own comment, and from a sinlge sentence therein)."

It doesn't affect me why should I care? I am not altruistic nor do I have any motivation to model my life in such a way. I'm a productive member of society and I pay my taxes. I have every right to want what satisfies me and to you that is offensive. However, I'm not here attacking you, though for some reason you decided to sit down and try to attack me. It's symptomatic of liberalism and I'd bet my last red cent that you're a die hard Obama supporter.

"I was curious to see why so many were downvoting your comment."

Refusal to accept reality and seeing things that aren't there. Also a characteristic of liberals and Obama supporters.

I also know you lived in Darien when you were younger.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:07 | 4676347 Wait What
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you're not kidding abt the fat ppl. on my weekly jaunt out of my mountain compound i am forced to commingle among the fatties whilst picking up prepper essentials. today i saw a herd of them eating ice cream on a pair of benches and had to chuckle: "poor benches"

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:40 | 4676612 snr-moment
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Extremely well reasoned and entirely correct, except on one point.


Screw YOUR genetics.  Dying of alzheimer's sucks.  I'll take the early morning massive MI for 500 Alex.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:18 | 4676698 One And Only
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I appreciate you.

Unfortunately nature doesn't.

I don't make the rules. I'm sorry.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:19 | 4676702 Adahy
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Plenty people of "healthy" height and weight drop dead everyday also.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:31 | 4677450 Againstthelie
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I think you are partially correct. What misses in your argumentation is the fact of changed lifestyle. In earlier times with hard manual work, the same genetic disposition did not get that fat, because manual labor burned the energy.


Another aspect I think plays a role is the nutrition industry. Today they are able to create so much fantastic food, that did not exist a few decades ago. To make clear what I mean, just remove all the good stuff from your household and only have some bread, butter, milk at home. No sweets, no great flavourings. And suddenly you will notice, that you don't like to eat anymore. You only like to eat, when you are hungry. Today nutrition industry is creating super stimuli for the taste nerves. Not oly more sugar, or more salt, but also if things naturally taste not intensive enough, taste amplifiers are added.

Since I usually eat very simple food and drink all day only water, I'm always stunned, how intense a Coke or Fanta tastes. Fantastic. But if you drink that everyday, the taste nerves accomodate and need a higher dose.

Modern food tastes that good, that many people want to eat something before they become really hungry. Eating today is mostly initiated by gusto and not by hunger.

To withstand this, it takes self discipline. Either by being in good shape and wanting to keep that or by having lots to work, a job that satisfies you. All that helps.

But if you have neither, and eating is becoming a kind of bringing some joy into a frustrating life, then all that accumulates. Add a culture that prays that abstinence is evil, pleasure is everything then things add up and it becomes quite logical, what we are seeing.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 15:56 | 4675924 rational
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"Incidentally, in 2010, the number of suicide deaths was nearly four times greater than the number of Americas murdered by firearm. Perhaps it is time to ban suicides."
Zerohedge idiocy on display:

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:03 | 4675935 q99x2
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Oh no don't ban suicides. The banksters have just started jumping in the last year. We have a lot more to go.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:19 | 4675962 knukles
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Nah, don't ban it, tax it!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:10 | 4676243 MontgomeryScott
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'BRAZIL', bitchez!

The ZIPPY THE PINHEAD avatar gets me, every time!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 00:48 | 4676671 One of We
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Tax?  Subsidize!!!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:23 | 4675969 farragut
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The CDC lists ~38,000 suicides (due to all causes) and ~11,000 homicides due to firearms in 2010. While not quite a 4-1 ratio, it's close enough in my book. See pages 40-41 in the link:

Perhaps you'd like to re-phrase your comment in a more rational manner?



Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:44 | 4675992 DosZap
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11,000 homicides due to firearms in 2010.


What they NEVER tell you is that when refering to children they count people up to 25 children, and are in the count.(take the drug homicides out, and gang bangers), and these numbers  would DROP exponentially.More REAL children die due to 5 gallon bucket, toilets and pools(in each category) than are killed with firearms.Also, suicides are included in homcides count.

Again something YOU will never see in the MSM.YOUR first mistake is believeing ANY stats from the CDC.NO Gvt entity can be trusted to be truthful,PERIOD.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:36 | 4676180 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"NO Gvt entity can be trusted to be truthful,PERIOD."


Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:01 | 4675932 q99x2
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This of course assumes there will be a 2015

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:50 | 4676551 idontcare
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So what does us in: financial collapse, asteroid hitting a major population center, global nuclear war, collapse of the Canary Islands causing a tsunami which wipes out the East Coast of the US, a major California earthquake in the SF/San Jose area, a new ice age,  worldwide drought and famine due to global warming, alien attack, a global pandemic of airborne ebola, or The Rapture?  Just curious!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:18 | 4675949 teslaberry
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the fucking 800 pound gorrilla in the asshole is the skyrocketing availability of FAST and LIFESAVING EMERGENCY MEDICAL TREATMENT!!. 

Oddly enough, the least of the overinflated categories of medical and drug costs/insurance paid scams IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE at accomplishing an admittedly narrow goal of preventing immidiate death due to shock or loss of blood. 

just by way of my eyeballs, if you are in an accident in new york city and you call an ambulance. that shit will come fast and save your life. you might die later, but you won't bleed out go into shock die of hypothermia or of dehydration. 

two years ago I saw a man die on the spot at a construction site, and i'll tell you, none of the other construction workers looking on were anything but IMPRESSED with how quickly and how effectively the ambulence tried to revive this guy on the spot, electro-stim paddles, oxygen and all. but if they had been able to save his ass from what must have been an ungodly large heart attack----he would have cost the insurance system a pretty penny in hospital stay and recovery costs. 6'2'' massive 300 pound strong as an ox mid 40's construction worker died where he stood. fell like tree. 

so-----------point is!

much of the improvement comes from decreased time from ambulance to hospital and increased skill of EMT and paramedics to stabilize patients on the way to hospital. car accidents, gunshots, heart attacks, emergency dildo accidents, and other causes of death......

all prevented.

so the statistics, as usual, don't do an effective job of telling a story by numbers alone.  however, when it comes to demodieagraphics-----it remains a necessary part of the tool kit for grasping such a large systems' overall appearance.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:41 | 4676179 The Joker
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So.  Completely hypothetical situation here:  What if I were say, standing on a sidewalk watching a bunch of people run by and a bomb goes off.  Say it blows my legs off completely destroying my arteries.  Do you think the ambulance can get to me in time to save me?  What if some asshole in a cowboy hat decides to put my ass in a wheelchair and wheel me down the block instead of elevating what remains of my legs and waiting for the EMT, do you think they can get to me in time then?  Do you think I would bleed out?  Go into shock?  What if I wasn't in shock but just trying hard as I can to hold my "tourniquets" on while cruzin' down the street?  Again, hypothetical...

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 20:15 | 4676357 teslaberry
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just stick your dildo in it and it will be fine. you won't bleed out. 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:56 | 4676628 snr-moment
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True. The EMTs are saving countless lives.   Hell, thy're so cheap, to boot, that the Daley family owns most of them in Chicagoland!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:14 | 4675950 apberusdisvet
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Thanks to Fukushima radiation, few born today, at least in North America, will live to be 50.  Already, radiation levels in some part of  the US and Canada are horrifying.  Check your area out at that posts Radcon Alerts.   Background radiation is usually 12-20 CPM (counts per minute).  Anthing above 150 is very dangerous to your health.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:17 | 4675961 negative rates
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Well they told you put tin foil around your windows and doors to eliminate the danger, but that was too much of a hassle so we'll just be thankful for the 50 and leave it at that.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:52 | 4676105 Mike in GA
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Wait, wait!  I thought it was duct tape around the windows and doors! 


Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:15 | 4675955 Manipuflation
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Liquor, cigarettes and women will kill you off every time.  I love all three of them.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:38 | 4676714 zhandax
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Well, women will kill you off every time.  The liquor and cigarettes will simply cause you to keep them around long enough to accomplish it.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:17 | 4676767 Manipuflation
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LOL!  Yep, that is one way to look at it.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:20 | 4675966 Smegley Wanxalot
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Read somewhere recently that you are 15 times more likely to die from a doctor's MISdiagnosis than from a gun.

Yet they don't ban doctors, but they wanna ban guns. Fuck them.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:34 | 4675981 I Write Code
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Sounds about right, and doesn't count deaths from errors in treatment, much less side-effects of drugs.

Also doesn't count the continuation of a miserable life under treatment especially for the very old.

Medicine has a long way to go.

Guns work pretty well, for what they do.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:46 | 4675994 Jena
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Estimates say about 100K deaths in the U.S. due to medical mistakes -- that includes the whole healthcare system not just the docs, so if you were to single out just them it'd likely be less.

A system where everything was doublechecked all the way through, from physician to pharmacy to nurse would prevent a lot of those deaths but in this era of cost-cutting I don't see that happening.  Apparently 100,000 or so deaths just aren't enough.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:53 | 4676108 HerrDoktor
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It already is happening or has happened.  Hospitals are full of old, sick people.  It is very expensive to keep them alive, and much simpler and cheaper to let or help them die.  Can you think of any political and economic implications which might stem from that idea?  Letting the enfeebled and old die might just help keep some big time Federally funded Ponzi schemes running a bit longer.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:41 | 4676540 idontcare
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What would be more useful would be a Logan's Run or Soylent Green solution, then take those luscious crackers and ration them out to all our EBT users.  Efficient and envrionmentally sound.  I bet that people like Pelosi and Reid would be first in line to sign any bill setting up a scenario like this.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:26 | 4676839 zhandax
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Most of the cocksuckers you allude to would be happy to use people as dinner as long as they could control the menu and the guest list...

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 00:07 | 4676641 snr-moment
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Umm, no. If you only looked at the people who saw a doc, the mortality would be higher.  Self selection bias.  (the ingrown toenails go to a podiatrist, the ruptured AAAs get admitted, sometimes)


Same goes for a hospital.  Sick old people die easier.  They're more fragile.  That BS statistic you quote  is just that, BS.  Until now, that is.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:39 | 4676844 zhandax
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All this old people shit is making me glad I unloaded a truckload of compost with a shovel and wheelbarrow today.  Tomorrow we plant tomatoes and peppers.  Fuck the AMA.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:04 | 4676228 Seek_Truth
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Gets my vote for Post Of The Day

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:43 | 4675991 geno-econ
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If you don't want to grow old, die young.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:55 | 4676005 navy62802
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I wonder what the rate of death from nuclear weapons will be over the next ten years. Shit, they'll have to add another bar to the chart!!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 16:59 | 4676008 itstippy
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Alzheimer's & Dementia are the spookiest shit ever.  I've known four "die with your boots on," fiercely independent, no-way-I'll-ever-go-to-a-nursing-home type people who developed that shit.  It crept up on them, and before they knew it they were helpless, raging mental cases.  All four ended up in care facilities and spent the last years of their lives as unhappy, miserable shells of what they used to be.  It was pathetic and extremely sad.

If you're diagnosed with those ailments you should take up skydiving, bankster hunting, nuclear meltdown remediation, or some other pastime that will take you out in short order.  Do you want to spend years shitting your pants and being spoon-fed by people you don't know, and they're your everyday nurse, your spouse, and your kids?

Plus you burn through tens of thousands of dollars a month for the care, wiping out the family wealth.  Spooky shit!


Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4676076 Being Free
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+1 ititi  couldn't agree more, Spooky.

But it occured to me ... shit! I'll forget where the boat went down with my gold.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:01 | 4676118 luckystrike6
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Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:01 | 4676120 luckystrike6
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Soda cans, vaccinations and ...whatsit? uh. shit. forgot.

Anti-perspirant. Yeah.

Me, I rub a raw bar of aluminum salts under my armpits every day - fuck the perfume. Figure once I get alzheimers it'll be mostly like being drunk all the time. And if it ain't, I won't remember it.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:38 | 4676529 idontcare
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... then go test your organic produce for aluminum and barium and you'll really feel as if you are screwed.  (nope, nope, nothing is being sprayed above our heads... absolutely nothing to see, now move along).

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:17 | 4676256 Treason Season
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2 teaspoons of turmeric powder daily taken with black pepper and some fat such as coconut oil or butter         =           No Dementia!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:33 | 4676521 idontcare
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I've been doing that for years and I still keep losing my reading glasses - go figure.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:01 | 4676011 The 22nd Prime
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In the 70-90 year cycles of global ass kickings I'd venture to say that these charts are going to be skewed rather radically in the next 20 years.

The 20th Century saw 100 Million wiped out in the maw of war. Difference now is a 1000 nukes didn't exist in the last global brawl.

Peace out, brothers.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:42 | 4676062 Being Free
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It would be interesting to see a breakdown in that 25-44 age group by ethnicity.  It is known that those of European decent generaly swim in the geene pool of those who survived the "Black Plague".  It is also suspected that AIDs and the Plague are somewhat related.  So those of European ancestry should have a built in genetic "resistance" to AIDs and other plague-like disease.  (It ain't racist, just the facts.)  I would suspect that the mortality rate for Non-Europen's is much higher than others in this age group.

[Edit - correct dumb mistake]

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:01 | 4676119 Canoe Driver
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Your whole comment is a dumb mistake. Mainstream opinion is that Aids is a retrovirus. The Black Death was caused by a bacteria carried by rats. And you are a total moron.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 14:50 | 4677627 zhandax
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Mainstream opinion is what got our current gubmint elected

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:39 | 4676074 luckystrike6
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Well, the #1 killer in America is still cigarette smoke. See, the more people quit, the more deadly every cigarette gets. Once there's only one smoker left, no one will be allowed within 1000 miles of him, and he'll be responsible for the deaths of 50 million people a year from heart disease, diabetes, lung cancer, and the crotch-rot-induced apoplexy that's already cropping up constantly in places hundreds of miles a way from the nearest smoker.

Seriously though, if you look at the consistent rise in lung cancer versus the decline in smoking, and note that lung cancer was almost unknown before the 1940s (whereas smoking has been practiced for millenia in the New World, and since the 16th Century in Europe), it's pretty obvious the culprit is the vast amount of radionuclides catapulted into the stratosphere by atmospheric nuke tests, that continues to rain down on us today. Virtually all of what's considered "background radiation" today, with the exception of a tiny amount caused by local natural sources like radium and uranium deposits, didn't exist prior to 1945.

This prediction is therefore wrong, because the chart in 2060 is going to be an inverted pyramid. Twenty years from now, after Fukushima, very few new Americans will be born at all.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:47 | 4676092 miker
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These charts will start turning down soon.  Average life span is foing to decrease significantly in the coming year for two reasons:

1)  Health care money won't exist

2)  Economic stress will take it's toll on lot's of folks.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:49 | 4676097 luckystrike6
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maybe, maybe. I think fertility's going down faster.

I do wonder what the chart looks like for Utah, lol.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 17:48 | 4676093 kurt
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As in

"Hurry up and..."

This is shoddy backfill for the Social Security Long Grift via Petersen/Blackrock


Watch out now... here comes the BoogeyMan, nope, Chupacabra, nope, Cuckooee, nope, monters, nope

It's the ......   ENTITLEMENT!!!!!!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:23 | 4676159 ZeroPoint
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Now will these charts be adjusted for Obamacare death panels?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:31 | 4676171 Winston of Oceania
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Remember Boxer from Animal Farm? Retiremnt is a fucking LIE for anyone under 60 at this point, and those of you who are had better quit chasing yield or you'll have nothing left to you.  

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:43 | 4676191 The Joker
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So death by false flag didn't even make the chart? 

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 18:59 | 4676216 luckystrike6
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Lol. "Smoking" death rates are the biggest false flag in American history. Note how zero people got cancer from nuclear bombs dropped all over the western states that drifted east, dropped fallout on farmland, and fed the cancer-ridden American public for the last 50 years. [edit: 65 years. I guess I'm gettin' old.]

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:11 | 4676247 Seek_Truth
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Because breathing in smoke of any kind is actually like taking vitamins, it's very beneficial for human health.

Moar smoke- it's what we all need!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:30 | 4676515 idontcare
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some smoke is more beneficial than other smoke... just ask the folks in Denver (damn lucky bastards)

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:14 | 4676252 WhyWait
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I strongly suspect the national mortality and morbidity statistics are no more honest than the cpi and unemployment data.

Anecdotally, I have never seen so much ill health as I see around me now.

If someone will post simple directions here for finding archived Web Pages, I will find and post some news articles that are very suggestive of deliberate fraud.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:50 | 4676316 Wait What
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i'm guessing vehicle mortality rate is dropping proportionally to miles driven per annum in America. who'd a thunk it? w/ gas at $4.50, only the super rich can afford to drive themselve to death!

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 19:50 | 4676317 D-Fens
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As a physician and student of collapse I'll say this:

1)  Death rates are going to up for all but the most robust

2)  I spent what should have been the best years of my life amongst the diseased and dying of the hospital so I could learn about the human body and how to treat it.  In exchange, I get to be a middle class tax serf and hated here, and everywhere else, because for some odd reason I can't transform an obese, tobacco/alcohol/drug addicted, demented, poor, angry 70 year old fellow serf into a 22 year old rich, athletic adonis, and do it for free.

I get the message loud and clear.  So my message to anybody who doesn't like it is this:  you're on your own, buddy.  May the best humans live and may the rest do what 100% of us will eventually.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:46 | 4677266 kurt
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Social Darwinian Alert


Thank you Dr. Mengela, your compassion is resounding. What they don't pay you enough? Why not pry out a few gold teeth?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:36 | 4676525 ken
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Why weren:t we keeping track of Alzheimer:s disease deaths before 2011? Has there been a covert operation to induce Alheimer:s in certain targetted individuals through vaccines? And the results are being tracked now?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:36 | 4676526 ken
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Why weren:t we keeping track of Alzheimer:s disease deaths before 2011? Has there been a covert operation to induce Alheimer:s in certain targetted individuals through vaccines? And the results are being tracked now?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:38 | 4676533 ken
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Or is it induced through food additives, medicines, or anaesthesia? I guess genocide is what happens when you bring the Nazi:s over after WWII, and promote them aggressively?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:41 | 4676537 ken
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Crops are genetically modidified so that they can withstand higher concentrations of herbicides/pesticides? Where is the FDA, and the *Do no harm* AMA on this? Don:t the dummasses who allow this understand anything about genetics? Or are they just lawyers?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:41 | 4676539 ken
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Crops are genetically modidified so that they can withstand higher concentrations of herbicides/pesticides? Where is the FDA, and the *Do no harm* AMA on this? Don:t the dummasses who allow this understand anything about genetics? Or are they just lawyers?

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 22:53 | 4676558 Yen Cross
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  I.C iodites

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:04 | 4676571 snr-moment
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So i am curious, If I get cancer, am 68, AND STILL HAVE A CAR, will the payment advisory board

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:24 | 4676705 ebworthen
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Depends on what kind of car and how much they can sell if for; and what your estate is worth to the State.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:07 | 4676574 snr-moment
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And while it’s certainly good news over the long haul for the sustainability of the earth’s resources, it will create political and economic stress in the shorter term, as smaller cohorts of working age adults will be hard-pressed to finance the retirements of larger cohorts of older ones."


Um.  Last I checked, Huggies were smaller than Depends.

Sat, 04/19/2014 - 23:28 | 4676595 snr-moment
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So, bottom line, time's a killer.  Got it.


By the way:

Another curious observation: there has been no progress in mortality for the 45-54 year olds since the late 1990s.


That's called diminishing returns. Also:


This quandary is further compounded by the reduced mortality of cancer and heart disease - the biggest traditional killers of this age group - over the past several decades.


That graph shows barely any reduction at all.


And, NO, we won't be spending alot on Alzheimer's. Not with 18 trillion of debt and Obamacare.



Sun, 04/20/2014 - 01:19 | 4676701 fencejumper
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The decline in driving deaths is at least partially explained by a decline in miles driven. See chart:

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:49 | 4676852 hardcleareye
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I would be interested to see were the data came from to generate that chart... 

It doesn't jib with the EIA's data of Total Gasoline Retail Sales.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:39 | 4676818 Not Goldman Sachs
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No goring of the sacrid car ox.  30k deaths is still way more than drugs and suicide... But we gotta drive, it's the cost of doing business. Just hope the texting arsewhole does not hit you.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:28 | 4677105 ArmyofOne
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Here I though I was going to live forever surrounded by my gold, beans, bottle water, ammo, and guns.  Now what the fuck do I do?








Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:55 | 4677170 lasvegaspersona
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whooo hoo 

i'm in the front of the shock wave...and I ain't going quietly..

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 17:40 | 4677942 Mad Muppet
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In 2060 there will be a shitload of old grannies out there.

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