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Five Reported Killed In East Ukraine Following Ultra-nationalist Attack

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And to think it was just two days ago when all the USDJPY momentum ignition algos roared to life on flashing headline news of yet another diplomatic "de-escalation" of tensions in Ukraine. What was clearly ignored is that since John Kerry was involved, it was nothing but the latest sham. And the proof came moments ago when Reuters reported, citing Russian state television on Sunday, that five people were killed when Ukraine gunmen attacked a checkpoint manned by pro-Russian separatists near the eastern Ukrainian city of Slaviansk.

Reuters was not immediately able to verify the report. Ukraine's Interior Ministry in Kiev could not immediately be reached for comment and Interior Minister Arsen Avakov had no word of the reported incident on his Facebook page, where he usually posts updates on any clashes - perhaps because this one was allegedly started by Ukraine ultra-right nationlists of the Right Sector.

Russia's state-run Rossiya 24 news station, citing its correspondent in Slaviansk, said three of the dead were with the pro-Russian separatists who control Slaviansk, and the other two were from the group which attacked their checkpoint.

The self-declared mayor of Slaviansk, who supports the pro-Russian separatists in the city, said there had been a clash overnight and there were casualties, a Reuters Television team in Slaviansk said.

RT has more:

The fatalities came after a night attack on a protester checkpoint on the outskirts of the city, a Rossiya 24 news channel correspondent reported. Four cars drove by the checkpoint and opened fire at the local residents holding it, killing three people and seriously injuring another one.


A group of protesters, who had firearms unlike those holding the checkpoint, was called from their camp in the city. They opened fire at the attackers, killing two of them, the report said.

The protesters in the confrontation reportedly captured the attackers’ two cars. Firearms, explosives and aerial photos of Slavyansk were discovered there. RIA Novosti cites a doctor at the city’s main hospital as saying that four people with gunshots were brought in overnight.


“Apparently, something serious happened,” the doctor said.


The protesters believe that they were attacked by paramilitary from the Right Sector.

The full report from LifeNews, in Russian, can be seen below:


And some additional reporting from British blogger Graham Phillips:

So if this is not merely another attempt at provocation and indeed the attackers' cars were captured and can be provided as evidence, and it can be verified that it was indeed Ukraine elements who were in breach of the now clearly null and void Geneva agreement, this may just be the escalation that Putin, who last week admitted for the first time the massing of Russian forces at the Ukraine border, will be free and clear to finally roll the tanks across the border purely with intentions to "protect" a "separatists" population which is clearly now targeted by its own government.

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Update: completely in line with expectations, the Ukraine government promptly accused Russia of staging the whole thing. Via Reuters:

Ukraine's police and intelligence service accused Russia of staging a fatal shooting incident on Sunday in which pro-Moscow separatists were killed in the east of the country.

"Armed lawbreakers and saboteurs who are terrorising the local population around Slaviansk ... have turned to cynical provocation," the SBU security service said in a statement, describing the incident as a "staged attack".

No group was present "other than the saboteurs and crime figures, supported and armed by officers of Russia's GRU" military intelligence, the SBU added. The Ukrainian nationalist group Right Sector, blamed by separatists for the shooting, denied involvement and also accused Russian special forces.

Russia has accused Ukraine of failing to protect civilians in the Russian-speaking east and has threatened to intervene on their behalf - as it did before annexing Crimea last month.


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Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:21 | 4676744 lolmao500
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will be free and clear to finally roll the tanks across the border purely with intentions to "protect" a "separatists" population which is clearly now targeted by its own government.

Funny that's the same excuse used by Stalin to invade Poland. Link to document :

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:29 | 4676747 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Happy Easter from the N.E.D. (Nazi Extremists for Democracy) and their supporters in Vichy DC.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:40 | 4676804 intric8
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Trot dead bodies out in the media, why dont they. That'll get us gullible americans behind the effort. Lets ID those 'pro russian seperatists' and find out if theyre actually even russian!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:55 | 4676807 Latina Lover
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Nulands/Nudelmans Easter gift to  the Ukraine:  Chaos, disorder, violence, horror, profit for the insiders. 


I look forward to the day when the Local Citizens of the south east start stringing up the oligarchs by their balls. 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:01 | 4676858 Adahy
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Well, I don't know about Florida, but the rest of us are ready I hope....oh, you were talking about Ukraine...

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:38 | 4676867 Tengri Temujin
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What gets me is that the EU and NATO and western media keep harping about Russia violating Budapest accords concerning Ukraine sovereignty but nobody mentions the fact that Nuland and the USA overthrew a 'DEMOCRATIC' government in Kiev with a coup that used Neo Nazis as shock troops.  Now tell me where in the world would a democracy overthrow another democracy, unless the USA is not a democracy to begin with, but a kleptocracy serving Oligarchs and corporations.   That would then make sense of the piling body counts now into the millions and the fact that the govt in Kiev is appointing unelected oligarchs as regional governors.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:01 | 4676914 Patriot Eke
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I'm not surprised to see brand new $100 bills on the body of a dead ultra-nationalist.  One of my grandfathers died fighting fascists in France, and now our government is openly supporting them all around the world.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:57 | 4677173 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Thats what I was thinking.  They use fresh $100 bills to transact in Ukraine?  Just print em up and ship em out.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:57 | 4677287 Jreb
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The strange part is that they ARE fresh.

They haven't been folded, put in a pocket, a wallet or anything. How many mercenaries operating in "conflict" zones do you know that run around with cash freshly retrieved from an ATM and never put it in their pocket or wallet? A little strange don't you think?

Also - the back pack the guy keeps handling looks like Eberle Stock. Made in Vietnam - sold in North America. The pack looks relatively new as well.

It's a cluster fuck of messages.

Too much propoganda on both sides. The real victim here is the truth.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:10 | 4677311 Latina Lover
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The crisp dollar bills are easy to explain, it was part of Brennans cash drop in Kiev.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:33 | 4677364 markmotive
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Ukraine's own military is questioning it's purpose. Kill fellow Ukrainians?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:14 | 4677408 ebworthen
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Let's look on the bright side; maybe those Kiev checkpoint crashers killed were from Blackwater.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 16:27 | 4677776 Manthong
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Of course there was no connection to NATO… like there was no connection gadaffi,  

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 20:31 | 4678306 Tabarnaque
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The CIA continues to unleash its Neo Nazis dogs against Russian civilians despite the Geneva talks. This means only one thing: The USSA want an escalation of the conflict.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:24 | 4677615 The Chief
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Ukraine no longer has a military. The real military has either defected or wants to.

The only thing maintaing the semblence of solidarity is propoganda. Strategic actors in the Ukrainian military...certain pilots, certain spec ops (now ruled by Blackwater contractors), and of course some worthless colonels and generals, have all been "incentivized" to basically do the bidding of the new fascists from the west or die. Millions of freshly printed benjamins have been distributed to help them with that decision. Millions more will be. Now they have something to fight for.

Greed is found in abundance in Ukraine. Since they don't have an army, guerilla war is the policy. It pays well until it doesn't. It won't for much longer.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:57 | 4677388 SilverRhino
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Russians get VERY leery of folded 100 dollar bills so I can only guess that Ukrainians are like that too.  

When I was exchanging dollars for rubles they actually kicked out bills that had been folded once.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:57 | 4677283 VD
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our gov IS fascist.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 14:26 | 4677576 Deathrips
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Duh? John Madden....


Fuck Em'



Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:11 | 4677312 g speed
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The pictures seem a little too convenient ?     "Not all is what it seems" and of course there is always reverse psychology?? IMHO don't be the first to storm the barracade PE-- Tyranny has lots of faces.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:00 | 4677397 ebworthen
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Patriot Eke said:  " One of my grandfathers died fighting fascists in France, and now our government is openly supporting them all around the world."

Yup.  And weren't the Nazi's very talented propagandist's too?  The U.S. Government also supports radical Muslims who kill Christians and burn churches when it suits their agenda (Syria, Serbia, Africa, etc.).

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:09 | 4676935 ZippyDooDah
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Keep repeating the Russian propaganda, over and over.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:16 | 4676946 Tengri Temujin
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Vicky Nuland is that you???

Propaganda, what cookies have you been eating Zippy?  Your aunt violated a country's sovereignty, did she kick back to you some benjamins for your spring break, are you by the pool side in Niece working for her overtime?  You prick!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:39 | 4676995 Sabibaby
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Victoria Nuland is an Obamagagging whore!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:49 | 4677023 Abi Normal
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Isn't that special...look what the liberal-tards have done in can thank the liberals for this mess people, happy now?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:54 | 4677039 john39
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Nazis and zionists, together again at last...

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:48 | 4677155 Oh regional Indian
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History rhyming indeed. so many things, as if on cue....

Cue : The dreaded Protocols....x posed...

Hollow Cost revisionism




Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:07 | 4677196 THX 1178
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I was wanting to ask you something, ORI. Slumdog Millionaire (I know its not an authentic Indian film...) is basically an apocalyptic movie right? Apocalypse being a greek word meaning "great revealing" or "great unveiling" or just revelation of hidden truth. I mean, at the end, Jamal (who is undervalued) gets revalued upward and Salim (overvalued) gets revalued downward. The truth of reality is revealed here. Salim Dies in a bathtub full of paper money at the very moment Jamal wins the quiz show. As jamal wins, a shower of gold and silver confetti rains down on him. It is symbolic of the coming monetary collapse; paper money dies, precious metals thrive. i mean the whole movie is essentially an allegory depicting the entire history of cenntral banking. It also might depict the entire history of human civilization. I just wanted to know if there was a sort of instinct or intuition in India surrounding this apocalyptic phenomenon... or some other narratives that express the same thing.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:32 | 4677245 Oh regional Indian
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Sorry ThX, did not watch it. Too much hype means not-good message in my book....

They set these feel good, one in a billion chance meeting type movies to unrealistically aspirationalize their target class.

Think "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous", but on movie screens...they ever told you how deep in the hock all these r and f people were....

Robin leach, fitting....

Anyways....Movies, what a trip....


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:05 | 4677411 tony wilson
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never saw the show

but i worked with danny boyle long ago

a mason

a shit eater for real

a satanist pretty important dontes you nose.

order is oto i believe just like the director of billy elliot movee.

ordo templi orientis aleister crowley crew kill kids for kicks and ritual.

take a look at the london olympics opening show.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:14 | 4677215 The Blank Stare
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That's funny!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:02 | 4677184 TheReplacement
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Liberals?  Why do you continue to use that word to describe the most illiberal people on the planet outside of the jihadis?  Aren't you mad that they have been doing what they have been doing in your name?  Of course you are.  Then why do you accept and even perpetuate their assualt on our language as well. 

Stop calling them liberals.  They are tyrants.  Call them what they are.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:06 | 4677307 TBT or not TBT
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They have to be jealous of the type of domestic power Vlad has, that's for sure.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:02 | 4677400 Leaping Lizard
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I am waiting for the fudgepacker to do a 5 hour Q&A with some hardball questions from all over the USSA.  Not that's serious tyranny.  

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 18:03 | 4677986 Abi Normal
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Damn, I stand corrected, thanks.


Sic Semper Tyrannis

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:28 | 4677108 Xibalba
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Nah, he only let's older white men blow him. 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:27 | 4677349 TBT or not TBT
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We have always been at war with "Ultra".

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:15 | 4677219 TungstenBars
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Zippy, you .gov troll, you're on the wrong side of history. Not a smart move. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 00:18 | 4678658 Buck Johnson
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Bingo, also when we in the US finally see our govt. for what it truly is it will be too late.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:31 | 4677469 TheObsoleteMan
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We don't string 'em up, we elect them Govenor!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:38 | 4677370 scrappy
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Did they take the Livers for Easter din din?



Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:23 | 4676961 Antifaschistische
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disclaimer:  I have no idea what the truth is in this Ukranian situation.  Truth is impossible to distinguish. 

I am wondering what the appropriate parallel is.    Is it  "Mexican Separatist have set up check points outside of San Antonio......"   

I'm not pro-Russian, or pro-Ukranian...but I do have two opinions.   No freedom loving person appreciates check points and I don't like seeing people get killed over this dispute.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:52 | 4677166 chemystical
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"disclaimer: I have no idea what the truth is in this Ukranian situation. Truth is impossible to distinguish.

I am wondering what the appropriate parallel is. Is it "Mexican Separatist have set up check points outside of San Antonio......"

With whatever respect is due, while you present at least a pretense of impartiality, the "parallel" that you chose betrays your leanings, and that parallel is as specious (or naive) as I've seen today. 

The USA did not pass legislation banning the use of Spanish.  A worldwide bully did not overthrow the US govt and replace it with an anti-Mexican government.  A worldwide bully did not loot the US treasury.

* otoh, ISR is a worldwide bully, and they have occupied D.C., and they have looted our treasury, so maybe I'm wrong - with the exception that they have not banned the use of Spanish.  To the contrary they have forced multilingual multicultural separatism of spirit and mind on the people of the USA - and exempted themselves from needing to embrace multiculturalism

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:07 | 4677197 TheReplacement
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I hate to argue with you but you are 100% wrong (to be fair, not for obvious reasons).

A worldwide bully did overthrow our government and they looted the treasury.  They are also anti-Mexican.  Obamao is part of a grand scheme by TPTB.  TPTB have looted our treasury.  TPTB are destroying Mexico in a classic pincher movement - the drug lords run wild in Mexico and that causes the decent people to want to leave.  Our non-existent border defense and immigration policy encourages the decent people of Mexico to leave for the US.  This is absolutely destroying Mexico.

If you doubt me, go live in Mexico.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:05 | 4677412 Leaping Lizard
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A worldwide bully did not loot the US treasury.

Wrong, only it was an inside job.  When the truth comes out it will be good to be short tungsten.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:12 | 4677314 Jreb
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Anti - the longer I watch this the more I realize that the truth is simple if not somewhat obscured.

There are five sides:





The rest of us

The Russians and the Americans are fighting a proxy war economically and militarily. The Russians are at stale mate in the financial war and are not making as much progress as they would like. The Americans are losing the hot war which the Russians are winning without firing so much as a shot.

The Europeans are confused and afraid. Less of Putins tanks and more of the price of gas.

The Ukranian people are basically getting screwed in general. The average guy packing groceries has no money, no say and is probably wondering if he willbe conscripted, shot, dissappeared or bombed some time in the next few days. He now realizes he is a pawn in some grotesque game of chess that he can do nothing about. Women standing in front of tanks aside he probably feels pretty hopeless and wishes everyone would take a chill pill so he can go about paying his gas bill.

The rest of us are wondering if we will eventually be turned into a smoldering pile of ash some time in the near future because the big banks and corporations that are running this whole show from behind the scenes seem intent on starting something they ultimately will not be able to stop through their puppet governments which are run by narcisistic psychopathic poltiicans and generals (on both sides).

Does that about sum it up? Or did I miss something?


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 14:09 | 4677536 Omen IV
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you said: "Does that about sum it up? Or did I miss something?"

yes you missed a bunch !

Europeans  = Germans (2 groups) and the rest of Europe - 1#-the Germans at the top level Merkel and the banks are lead by USA / 2#-The Germans in the street and the unions and the industrialists are pro- Russia for all the reasons you know economically but more importantly they despise the USA starting with NSA and they know the whole Nuland story - Merkel cant hold the line for the USA - german people are set up solidly against the USA - Impossible to hold them !

Americans = Government + 1%, the american sheeple, people who can think and dont follow the MSM

Ukrainians = western Ukraine to include Swobvda and Right Sector and the american stooges - Yats et al, the eastern and southern Ukraine, Billionaires who stole public assets in the last twenty years

those in south and east read the tea leaves - IMF is going to destroy them and foreclose on the loans and convert to public assets and transfer the assets to the Ukrainian-American Business Council (Monsato / Chevron / Cargill / etc) - population will end up as refugees in Russia - so they will fight to the end and get federation with R after referendum - EU gets the debt / western Ukraine and the Fascists

Billionaires run the risk of ALL assets returned to the provinces stolen in the last twenty years upon freedom from UK via 90% tax, lawsuits and assassinations and then redistribution to the people and then IPO of 49%.

Russia: keys -  control the southern pipeline, control and limit  the new oil and gas drilling, control the breadbasket, control NO new NATO (will never believe any US pledge for the Uk on nATO or use of pipeline), therefore must control south and east, crimea, istretsia and then new currency established with China / Iran, BRICS et al  plus eastern pipelines  built to china for long term security

Obama the lamest lame duck in history of the republic!!!, the record will show the loss of reserve currency status since Bretton Woods on his watch, deutchbag and arrogant motherfucker!

OBAMA today 40% has approval rating but if you take out blacks from that - 18% of population and 93% voted for him of all blacks - without refinement of calculation -  that leaves 23% of the rest of the US population supporting him "before" this fiasco - HE IS DONE - GAME OVER for next two years!







Sun, 04/20/2014 - 18:46 | 4678096 Jreb
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So what you're basically saying is the main players are all corrupt assholes and the rest of us honest hard working folk are fucked?


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:12 | 4677317 TBT or not TBT
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The perps are "Ultra-" this and "Ultra-" that. An extreme response is illicited in our amygdalae. When people are hurting, government has to move. This will not stand.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:23 | 4676838 Wahooo
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Yep, looks like the Easter Bunny from the CIA stopped by to say hello and wish them hell-on-earth from the Kenyan demon. Couldn't be anymore obvious with the Franklins. Our nation is going to get the biggest karma payback in all of human history.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:25 | 4677230 gdogus erectus
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Our nation? Most of us are just trying to make ends meet and make a living. I think you mean our usurpers.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:20 | 4677329 N57Mike
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Wahoo talking about karma I'm going to find the Edgar Casey quote that says America will meet it's karma .....there will be a "great leveling" in the future, Casey openly predicted America would fall into revolution if we didn't go to the Higher path of loving and taking care of Each other as brothers.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:07 | 4677415 N57Mike
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Here it is Wahoo… Edgar Casey's discourse on America's future and karma ... Reading. (3976-18)
This reading was continued four days later and warned of the unthinkable—the possibility of revolution in our country.

"We are our brother’s keeper. Then if those in position to give of their means, their wealth, their education, their position, do not take these things into consideration, there must be that leveling that will come. For unless these are considered, there must eventually become a revolution in this country—and there will be a dividing of the sections as one against another. For these are the leveling which men resort when there is the plenty in some areas and a lack of the sustenance in the life of others. These are the manners in which such things as crime, riots, and every nature of disturbance arise...
For all stand as one before Him. For the lord is not a respecter of persons, and these things cannot long exist...then, America—the United States—must take warning. For to whom does the wealth be- long? To whom do the possibilities of the land belong? Does it belong to those who have inherited it, to those who have been given the positions by power? Or to those who have by their labor, by the sweat of their brow produced same? (3976-19)
A year later in June, 1939, when Cayce gave a discourse on the major problems confronting the American people, it again warned of possible revolution.
The ideals, the purposes that called the nation into being are well...there needs to be on the part of each man, each woman, the adhering to those principles that caused the formulating of the American thought.
...if there is the turning of every man and woman to the thought of God, then we may solve every problem...Ye are to have turmoils...That such is to be a part of the experience of America is because of unbelief!...Unless there is a more universal oneness of purpose on the part of all, this will one day bring—here—in America—revolution!"

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:11 | 4677421 Leaping Lizard
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He also said in trance that in the future Russia would become the leading edge of freedom for the planet.  This was at the height of Stalinist power and Cayce was anything but a communist or socialist.  It certainly made me wonder when I read it.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:35 | 4676751 gorillaonyourback
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Fuck you lolmao u god dam sock puppet

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:22 | 4676960 Old Poor Richard
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See how this sock puppet responds when ethnic separatists take over a checkpoint in the US.  The only thing I hate more than my elected government harassing me and tracking my movements is goddamned insurrectionists harassing me and tracking my movements.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:09 | 4677200 TheReplacement
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As long as you are not a Federal employee you will be allowed safe passage so relax.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:19 | 4677441 The Chief
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Or a contractor...


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:53 | 4676755 jeff montanye
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the nazis invaded poland on september 1, 1939.  following their conquest, stalin invaded poland on september 17, 1939, putting some facts on the ground to augment the molotov-ribbentrop peace treaty signed in august with germany, all attempting to protect russia from the nazis.  the nazis invaded russia in june, 1941, ultimately killing at least one in six russians, possibly as many as one in three. perhaps stalin was right to be concerned.–Ribbentrop_Pact–45)

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:48 | 4676781 angel_of_joy
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Actually that was a pact that both sides followed to the letter... at least for the first years.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:22 | 4676800 jeff montanye
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yes.  didn't make it to its second anniversary though and was followed by some of the worst of war in history (cleaned out the rats in leningrad however).

perhaps this won't be so bloody.  perhaps putin will achieve enough of his ends without "rolling in the tanks", which is not such an elegant move, not worthy of a chess master (though not of multi-dimensional chess, a la obama). there seems a persistent morale problem with the kiev forces. i can't vouch for the link below but it is interesting.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:50 | 4677029 New_Meat
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"... those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle.  They capture his cities without assaulting them and overthrow his state without protracted operations."

Some old guy said that, a long time ago.

- Ned

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:43 | 4677141 Kirk2NCC1701
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Central Banking plus Propaganda will do that for you. IOW: Slander and Bribes on a large scale. Old as man.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:31 | 4677471 CrashisOptimistic
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True, and he said it before the spigot was all powerful.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:54 | 4677168 Latina Lover
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Re JeffMontaye


The link you posted for the daily beast is pure state department propaganda.  The comments are seeded by trolls.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:14 | 4677217 TheReplacement
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Cleaned out the rats in Leningrad...

Do you mean all of the children and poor folk who starved to death while the Soviets lived like everything was normal?  Not one communist died from starvation in Leningrad (warning:  touch of hyperbole).  The vast majority were just serfs who had no part in the game.  That was the Nazi plan from the beginning (to starve the city) and the Soviets were happy to play along so long as they had their grub.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:07 | 4677652 Leaping Lizard
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Actually, he probably meant rats literally.  Funny what you'll eat when you're starving.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:59 | 4676808 DeliciousSteak
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The Soviets made some overreaches that in turn made the Germans suspicious/paranoid about their intentions, basically making them think the Soviets were planning an invasion and were going to cut off German access to the Romanian oil fields, significantly contributing to their decision to invade as soon as possible.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:37 | 4676817 crazzziecanuck
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People forget that Poland invaded the USSR in the 1920s for fear of being squeezed by Germany in the West and the USSR in the east.

Poles also claimed to be "liberators" of the Ukraine... everyone who invades says that.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:26 | 4676872 August
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The Poles are not without blood on their hands due to wars of policy and aggression, but in the 1920s the Polish republic was basically fighting for its existence.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:37 | 4676877 Tengri Temujin
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GREAT LINK, never knew about this period of history.  Very cool canuk very cool.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:39 | 4677129 rwe2late
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 Russia also had to be concerned about the unwillingness/refusal of England and France to ally with Russia to oppose Hitler.

The invasion of Poland occurred one year after spurning Russia's offer of alliance to oppose the annexation of Czechoslovakia by Hitler. It was an open secret that the hope was for Hitler to turn eastward against Russia. At most, England and France intended to 'fight" a Sitzkreig war from behind the Maginot Line against Germany.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:36 | 4677250 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' have a long history in using nazis as their henchmen.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:41 | 4676848 tradingdaze
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The first casualty of war is the truth. So don't expect any from either side.

Maybe that should be any side?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:01 | 4677176 rwe2late
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 The folklore argument is misleading.

The facts are not equally supportive of all sides.

The reports (truth) are not equally false.

Claims that they are only supports the biggest liar.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:17 | 4677323 TBT or not TBT
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But, but, but some of these jokers are "Ultra-" !

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:05 | 4676860 sushi
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The following video was posted on ZH early Saturday morning:


The comment references a Ukraine news link which contains a  graphic video:


BREAKING NEWS : video of the right sector allegedly murdering the ex-police chief of  donetsk in front of his wife. The original website took down the vid,I hv found an copy posted on some Serbian website.WARNING DISTURBING FOOTAGE:


Given the lack of comment on this item I doubt it was seen by many on ZH. It is incendiary. It shows a man with tape over his mouth as he is murdered by two men wearing camo as another two men hold his wife down in their bedroom.


I did a web search for corroborating reports and it appears that the Chief of Police in Donetsk resigned rather than impose control as directed by Kiev. The killing appears to be payback for this lack of loyalty to the regime. The video appears to be a message intended to stiffen the backbone of anyone who may decide to defy the authorities in Kiev and impose order as directed by them.



Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:18 | 4676893 Tengri Temujin
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What a bunch of animals.  Why doesn't the world media show what a USA paid for coup will do to its citizens after overthrowing their democratic govt and then seeking to subjugate them.  That video to me is the USA cutting the man's neck, and the USA should be prosecuted at the World Court. 

And to imagine that the USA was cautioning against the use of violence.  As an American citizen I am disgusted by this and am only too keenly aware that the psychopaths that facilitated this have no less in store, the same thing for us back home in America. MOFOS, FU!!!!

If someone did that to my family members I would have no hesitation in NUKING them.  The west better be careful, that video will set on fire the hearts of many RUS.  There will be payback, hope to see a video of Yatz's neck under the knife real soon.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:25 | 4676966 mccvilb
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Wondering if Obama, Brennan, Hillary and Kerry held a private video and popcorn party for a few select guests.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:59 | 4677180 Latina Lover
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that is an incredibly gruesome video, very similar to Al Queda Syrian Rebels decapitations. 

I wonder what is the connection between the two....

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:23 | 4677451 Leaping Lizard
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With sacrificed baby starters

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:26 | 4677347 stormsailor
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the only problem with that video is we do not know who the people are, nor if it is real.  i don't believe anything i see unless i see it with my own eyes.  


i don't intend to be gamed by video. no matter how terrifying. 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 21:14 | 4678387 Tengri Temujin
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'And then when there was no one left they came for my throat'  I guess that will be on your tombstone

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:14 | 4677428 tony wilson
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cia brenan field trip clearly took the syrian play book.

the video makes it clear how kievnazi  jews want to roll

more saturn more sickness


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:44 | 4677488 The Chief
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The world media is owned by jewish arch-oligarchs. Even the lesser jewish oligarchs are afraid of them. The non-murderous jewish oligarchs are afraid of the same monsterous, greedy, maniacally, evil arch-oligarchs as we are. They are simply in a position to do their bidding and live, where the common, decent man has but two horrible choices: Die fighting and perhaps make a difference or give servitude to these criminally insane psychopaths until death.

Our politicians are in the same boat as the lesser jewish oligarchs...maybe a step lower. They follow orders for selfish purposes and care not about life other than their own. Dont expect them to help. They have no interest to do anything but hang on and take orders at this point.

Try to remember that when it comes to decision making time. You can make a difference.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:57 | 4676911 BlindMonkey
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The US, through their allies in Syria and the Ulraine, are doing anything possible to unleash the dogs of war. I can imagine that the effort is to redo the Balkan play book.

This is just simply madness.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 21:07 | 4677552 The Chief
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$5 Billion "missing" USDs goes a long way in buying "dogs of war" for these nazi jews.

God, please save the russian people and Mr. Putin. Please.

One, maybe two at the most, well placed laser-guided munitions from a russian warplane could probably put an end to this whole affair. They wouldn't land in eastern europe or russia.

My guess is that when they finally force Putin to make a move that he will take the war to those that matter. It wont be a border skirmish. The war they so ruthlessly beg for will come to them at home, disrupting the security of their palaces in Netherlands and Belgium...and in Israel.

They are begging for it. It just goes to show you how unbelievably inhuman these monsters are. In their disturbed minds, they are super human and we are insects by comparison. They are sure of their station and dominion over us.

Americans stand with Putin because their leaders no longer represent them. They see him as being on their side. Ive heard it from strangers on subways and airplanes. Ive heard it from farmers and doctors. Ive heard it from patriots just itching for a cause.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:19 | 4676952 mvsjcl
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Man, the silence on this incident is deafening!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:37 | 4677102 mccvilb
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Epic fail on MSM. Absolute zero on CBS, CNN; even phony alternative media hypster Drudge ignoring it.

On Meet the Press David Gregory had an "interview" with Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Gregory followed the Bad Russians Good Oligarths script to the letter, laying blame solely on Putin for the upheaval and reiterating several times on the Ukranians need for "weapons" and financial support to defend themselves. No mention was made of the murder of the former police chief. (edited)

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:29 | 4677111 Global Hunter
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Sushi, I couldn't watch much of the video from the link in your post, but no doubt that act was the true definition of terrorism (it terrified me) and it should come as no surprise that it is the western governments/corporations that are in fact sponsoring and engaging in terrorism.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:53 | 4677162 fleur de lis
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The lawless DC meddlers are complicit in this atrocity. I hope the Russians catch them.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:59 | 4677291 southern_oilman
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Thanks for reposting my comment,it is important to share this and make people aware.I'm amazed with the silence in the media about this. I do not understand it as id expect that RT would be all over this...this was originally posted on a anti-maidan website but was taken down.the Serbian website and a YouTube vid are the only reposts out there.

We have to be careful when making conclusions here, as where does the info that this is really pravi sektor? If this is true then it would indicate that there is a paramilitary group behind the series of attacks in that region- I hv counted 3 so far: the drive by and recent check point shootings where the self defence guys got the thick end, and the poor guy in the vid.

This is too reminiscent of the beginings of the war in Bosnia, when unknown men were committing assassinations, sniper attacks etc...some were latter found to be local criminals (who were quickly executed before they could have talked).

Mark my words someone is trying to escalate the conflict to a full civil war. They have already achieved their first milestone: curfew

Now it's a matter of time when fear and random killings set in

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:28 | 4677351 g speed
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TU----keep an open mind on this-----

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 14:00 | 4677533 sushi
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I would add to your list the video of a man in uniform who is chased down at night by unknown men and then captured. At the time of capture he goes absolutely limp, puts up no resistance but can be heard stating that he is an American citizen. This too dissappeared with no comment.

With regard to the mess that is Ukrainian politics I found this on Wikipedia:

Kolomyski has used Privat's "quasi-military forces" to enforce hostile takeovers of companies, sending a team of "hired rowdies armed with baseball bats, iron bars, gas and rubber bullet pistols and chainsaws" to forcibly take over a Kremenchuk steel plant in 2006,[17] and has used "a mix of phony court orders (often involving corrupt judges and/or registrars) and strong-arm tactics" to replace directors on the boards of companies he purchases stakes in

Kolomyski is apparently worth between $3 and $6 billion USD, runs a bank in Ukraine in addition to other ventures, has a reputation for no-holds barred tactics and was recently appointed the governor of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.

So this is an oligarch with significant resources and a reputation for playing rough and he just so happens to have been appointed by the putschists to govern an area in which the will of the population appears to threaten his source of wealth.

A polish reporter has also uncovered evidence of Ukrainians being trained in Poland in the arts of civil disobedience. A ten month course which included instruction on sniper rifles, provoking or controlling mobs etc. So suspect you are correct on the similarity to Bosnia. Problem is that Kerry is going to blame Putin for acts over which Putin has little control (the mass resignation of the Ukrainian 25th Airborne Rgt was an exception to this pattern). My hunch is that the USSA oligarchs and the Ukrainian oligarchs are much more closely allied and linked that we may yet be aware of. In all of this  the people loose.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:01 | 4677292 The Blank Stare
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I'm calling it Bullshit!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 14:15 | 4677559 Jack Burton
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Stalin was a Georgian man, born and raised. A communist whose mass murders of Russians number in the millions. So, what is it about history you don't understand, the reality of it? Name me the Communist dictators of Russian ethnicity that ruled the USSR with one man rule. Hmmm, look at the list, along with a Georgian, you will find two Ukrainians, and in the original ranks of communism will be found a large section on non christians. Read up on the gangs that enforced agricultural collectiviztion in Ukraine, the jewish communists from Kiev and other major cities took the lead. Next you will tell me Beria was Russian, wrong again!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:57 | 4677728 fleur de lis
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Stalin was also an employee of the Rothschilds. Firebug, street thug, depraved killer, general all around low life--you know, a real Rothschild company man. No wonder they promoted him to tyrant.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:33 | 4676746 Gringo Viejo
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Russia's sphere. America needs to stay the hell out of it.
Our national interest IS NOT being threatened. As to treaties, ask Mubarak what they're worth.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:34 | 4676773 AnAnonymous
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The national interest of 'americans' is being threatened by the mere existence of 'americans'.

'Americans' are in the urge of finding new pockets of resources they do not yet fully controlled or the 'american' system collapses.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:16 | 4676794 angel_of_joy
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No amount of resources can make up for the stupidity that dominates this country, today...

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:03 | 4676925 Yen Cross
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  Your Chinism(roadside shitting) blabbering is growing tiresome.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:27 | 4677233 viahj
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Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:31 | 4677241 AnAnonymous
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Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:04 | 4676789 The wheels on t...
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Your national interest has been threatened, Putin and the east is calling an end to the petro dollar and they are making concrete steps to do this.

This is a squeeze by the US to ensure Russia falls in line like the rest of the countries under America Hegemony. 

The only problem is, Putin is unlikely to fall in line

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:53 | 4676826 tonyw
Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:48 | 4676824 crazzziecanuck
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Well, Reagan invaded Grenade to protect some droput American medical students.

Hard to criticize Putin for doing the same.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:46 | 4677150 Abi Normal
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I think you have a fuzzy memory of events here.  

I do believe it was invading Cuban troops holding US medical students hostage in 'Grenada', and Reagan was right to go in and get them out.

As to the Ukraine, a different matter all together, and if Obozo had any brains or guts, he would have a division in Poland by now, and beefing up in Germany too.  That would be a good chess move, to counter Putin, and believe me, Putin would at that point back down.  And not a drop of blood spilt to stop him.

Since we have a spineless, incompitent, illegal mutant communist in the WH, the Russian's will take more, and more.  We will lose the world's reserve currency status too; which the BRIC's are trying hard to end.  All that is going on, is by design.

It was said, "the USA is the last impediment to world peace, a one world government, an open society".  A Communist utopian, unicorn and skittles wet dream...

So, it is parmount to dismantle the USA, what better way than from the inside...The Fifth Column is in da house!

Molon Labe, BITCHES!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:05 | 4677648 crazzziecanuck
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Americans were not held "hostage" so best read and brush up your history.  They just happened to have been in the country when other crap was going down.  There were Cubans on the island Reagan was paranoid that they were behind the coup there.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:32 | 4676750 mr_gandhi
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I wonder if Greystone mercenaries had anything to do with this...


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:53 | 4676757 angel_of_joy
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If they do, then they aren't too smart since two of them ended-up dead.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:48 | 4677473 Leaping Lizard
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I wonder if Blackwater mercenaries had anything to do with this...

Fixed it for you.  Let us not play Erik Prince's game.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 16:22 | 4677769 angel_of_joy
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Greystone IS Blackwater aka XE Services aka Academi. See below, especially paragraph 4.2


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:38 | 4676752 Caveman93
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Labels. So awesome. Queue in weak Gazelle. 

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 03:50 | 4676756 navy62802
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An MG-42? Wow.


And that last photo includes a big pile of US currency ($100 & $20 bills). Why would pro-Russian forces be carrying US currency? Is that something people normally do in Ukraine?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:12 | 4676761 jeff montanye
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because they got the money out of the cars of the kiev/nazi allies of victoria nuland (zionazi) after the nazis attacked and killed their compatriots?  just a guess.

maybe the head of the cia brought some pallets with him on his recent visit as a housewarming gift:

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:17 | 4676768 AUD
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Those dollars don't look as if they've past through too many greasy fingers.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:36 | 4676774 Lore
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What a travesty, that soldiers are ordered to risk their lives over some little scraps of paper.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:20 | 4676798 angel_of_joy
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That guy is a dead man walking. Soon enough, somebody would make him an offer he cannot refuse... like a full cup of polonium tea.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:31 | 4677244 vened
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"that guy" Ihor Kolomoyskyi is an Israeli citizen.

So Israeli puts bounty on Russians in Rus.  Can't make it up.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:23 | 4677338 sushi
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From the Wikipedia link:

Kolomyski has used Privat's "quasi-military forces" to enforce hostile takeovers of companies, sending a team of "hired rowdies armed with baseball bats, iron bars, gas and rubber bullet pistols and chainsaws" to forcibly take over a Kremenchuk steel plant in 2006,[17] and has used "a mix of phony court orders (often involving corrupt judges and/or registrars) and strong-arm tactics" to replace directors on the boards of companies he purchases stakes in.

The tactics he uses seem familiar.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:44 | 4676777 SilverRhino
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MG-42 with steel cased 8mm ammo (looks like Romanian with the red laquer sealant) 

No fucking way that was a Russian unit.   That would be like US troops marching with a swastika.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:54 | 4676806 jeff montanye
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thanks for your ammunition expertise. the kiev/nazis may well have had romanian ammunition.

the irony is that should, heaven forfend, u.s. troops  ever be pushed into this chaos, they very well may be marching with swastikas (worn by their "allies"):

imo the irony is further compounded by these nazis (right sector, svoboda, etc) working hand in glove with committed israel firster, zionist victoria nuland, wife of uberzionist robert kagan of the project for the new american century (first stage of project: iraq war).  that she was deputy foreign policy advisor for dick cheney and is now an assistant secretary of state for obama tells anyone all s/he needs to know about these "opposing" political parties.

i looked for a more mainstream venue for this story but for some reason it seems underreported in the msm.  go figure.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 08:32 | 4676876 intric8
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The nulands, more isrealites with nose jobs. Dont know about you, but I am SICK of these guys causing worldwide financial woes, indebtedness and WAR for the last century now. The world is too busy fighting each other. DO YOU RECOGNIZE WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:31 | 4676982 yochananmichael
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nazis like you are the real enemy.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:45 | 4677010 Tengri Temujin
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What an MG-42, hmm word has it that its what Nuland uses as a 'STRAP ON' when she bangs the hot Ukraine girls.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 08:30 | 4679026 Uni
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OK I have a few silly questions here.

1) why would they bring a mg-42 and not use it? Shell casings are not from it.

2) why would they bring a mg-42 and only bring about 5 seconds of ammo for it? Must be lack of money for ammunition? Oh wait

3) why wouldn't they setup the mg-42 after taking over the checkpoint no group of a few "protestor" irregulars will take over a checkpoint armed with a mg-42


Something smells really fishy.


Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:06 | 4676810 Phuk u
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Yes they do carry greenbacks navy, it is the preferred currency

in Ukraine,Russia etc.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:25 | 4676840 Winston of Oceania
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MG 42 is still used by many countries, you can lay lead pavement with that sombitch!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:08 | 4676933 BlindMonkey
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I have always wanted to shoot one. I bet the don't call it "Hitler's chainsaw" anymore though.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:37 | 4676990 Tengri Temujin
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It's now called Nuland's Chainsaw, or Vicki's Chainsaw if you want to be less formal.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 15:48 | 4677713 Volkodav
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zipper...not chainsaw

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 10:33 | 4677099 fxchange
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On thursday governor of Dnepropetrovsk biillioner Kolomoysky (jew by origin) promised $10,000 for head of any "separatist".May be  this a clue of the Easter night assault.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:14 | 4676764 Philalethian
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"Why would pro-Russian forces be carrying US currency?"

Yeah, and so krispy, you can still smell the ink.

Merry Easter Joyity!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:54 | 4676782 ross81
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yeah, New York gets the Ukrainian gold & gives Kiev some freshly printed paper in exchange. Talk about being taken for a ride, Maidan activists!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:43 | 4676775 Youri Carma
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Like said, In every country Skull & Bones Kerry has shown his ugly Joker head, dead and destruction followed soon
Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:45 | 4676779 TheRideNeverEnds
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This should help the spoos gap up open at least a half a percent later today.  

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 09:58 | 4677047 Sabibaby
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You blazin already bro?

420 - Good for you!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:46 | 4676780 Shrapnel
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And aerial recon photos, courtesy of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency(NGA) I'm sure.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:56 | 4676783 Notsobadwlad
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I sometimes wonder about people who find it necessary to wear ski masks to hide their faces. If they are so ashamed of what they are doing that they feel they need to hide their faces, maybe they should not be doing it.

What did their mother teach them, anyway?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 07:10 | 4676829 crazzziecanuck
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Sometimes it's to remove a kind of hierarchy and create a single identity.  "Everyone was Subcommandante Marcos" in Chiapas, for example.

Most times, it's probably to provide anonymity to goons.  Why do you think SWAT teams and the like use them?

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 13:57 | 4677522 Leaping Lizard
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Sun, 04/20/2014 - 12:05 | 4677306 messystateofaffairs
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Aside from being unidentifiable to make being hunted down personally later on masks can also mask the origins of the group. When goverment forces wear masks it is because when they do their wrongs to the public, family and other vigilantes hunt them down personally and out their lights, sometimes years later. I expect American SWAT type forces will soon start wearing masks.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 04:57 | 4676785 10mm
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Nice crisp Benjamins fanned out. Too obvious.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 11:28 | 4677110 Rehyponzicated
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Yeah. The whole thing looks rather staged.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:39 | 4676795 intric8
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This is war!

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:19 | 4676796 JamesBond
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Risk on

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 05:40 | 4676803 Wile-E-Coyote
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Putin won't come in yet, the body count will have to be higher and the victims pro Russians will have to be unarmed.

MG3 machine gun, that is NATO spec.

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:15 | 4676811 smacker
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What is clear to me is that this de-escalation/non-de-escalation process needs de-escalation urgently, else incidents will escalate.

Where's John Kerry when you need him??

Sun, 04/20/2014 - 06:41 | 4676820 PaperBear
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Supporters of the Kiev coup regime have escalated the crisis - go figure.

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