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Is The US Military Preparing For The Collapse Of The Dollar?

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It almost happened in 2008... but as this excerpt from Casey Research's Meltdown America documentary notes, it appears the US military is preparing for the potential collapse of the US dollar. As Scott Taylor warns, "...if the carrot (of credit worthiness) is fading, and the stick (of military threat) is weak, that empire is going to come down in a hurry..." which leaves a serial economic mis-manager only one option to 'secure' the empire.



To see what the consequences of economic mismanagement can be, and how stealthily disaster can creep up on you, watch the 30-minute documentary, Meltdown America. Witness the harrowing tales of three ordinary people who lived through a crisis, and how their experiences warn of the turmoil that could soon reach the US. Click here to watch it now.


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Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:52 | 4681427 NoDebt
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Son, everyone who can fog a mirror is preparing for the collapse of the dollar.  It's just a question of when and how fast she slips under the waves when she goes.

Most people are betting they can see it coming and react fast enough to get to the lifeboat.  Most people will probably be wrong.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:57 | 4681448 with the king
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It's worse, most people have no clue at all about the collapse of the dollar

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:00 | 4681462 Doubleguns
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If you do not own a life boat already, your screwed. PM's in possesion, a working farm, method to keep those items and the fortitude to do so. The new 1% will be whats left. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:07 | 4681475 linniepar
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Holy doom-porn! Need popcorn.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:13 | 4681491 robertocarlos
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I'm praying to God I live long enough to see it so I can have a good laugh.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:21 | 4681505 BKbroiler
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The great experiment will end with a whimper not a bang.  See Japan.  No mad max fantasies, no urban warfare.  Just slow grinding deflation until the joists give out.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:26 | 4681518 The_Ungrateful_Yid
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I'd prefer Nukes than financial gets you quickly the other is long and painful.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:30 | 4681524 BKbroiler
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I hear ya. I might just go out guns blazing while everything is still normal.  Pre-empt the apocalypse.  Bush doctrine, bitchez.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:43 | 4681547 Soul Glow
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There is a constant deflation.  Problem is, the central banks are creating an inflation +2% above par.  This type of monetary poiicy creates hyperinflation because the basis of the credit is fiat - it is by decree.  This has only happened so many times in history, and it has never ended well.  

Debt needs a backing, a basis.  When it has none all hell breaks loose.  Chaos finds a home. 

There is no growth - oil exploration vs demand has shown such.  Employment has shown such.  There are so many homeless, destitute - it's almost like the Elite are trying to usher in the Bible's Apocalypse.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:07 | 4681609 erg
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There's a trap-door at the very bottom of the rabbit-hole. Fortunately or unfortunately it probably involves death.

I didn't ever want to pass away in my sleep. Better to go out a champion of things good and wholesome and honorable.

That's the key. Stick to the truth and no one can ever lead you astray.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:28 | 4681641 dryam
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Japan's monolithic culture is extremely different than that of the U.S.  Politicians have tried their best to polarize this country for years, and they've done a great job of it.  Commonality is anything but common in the U.S.  People have been angling for a great cultural reset to coincide with the financial reset.  Kids that have never experienced real discrimination a day in their life feel as though (via inflammatory rhetoric) that they have been persecuted more than the Jews during the Holocaust.  Various groups have loaded up with ridiculous amounts of guns & ammo.  No, we are not Japan.  We are a country that's had cracks in our foundation for a long time, and it's going to just take a little extra stress to crush the foundation.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:41 | 4681676 Stackers
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Make no mistake the US military is actively training to sieze and occupy domestic urban areas with lethal combat force. This has never happened, even during the World Wars.


Little bird gun runs down Biscayne Blvd in Miami


Downtown attacks on LA








and many others


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:04 | 4681724 Pure Evil
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And, what, pray tell, exactly is the common denominator in all these cities?

You'd be surprised at how many of our African brethren have moved to Minneapolis from Shitcago, Minneapolis, and Detroit to take advantage of the bountiful welfare benefits in Minnesota.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:18 | 4681759 DeadFred
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Don't be racist! The EBT zombies will come from all races and creeds. The FSA is everywhere.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:48 | 4681790 e_goldstein
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The FSA is everywhere.

But mainly on Wall Street.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:17 | 4682257 dontgoforit
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Man who walk on razor blades sure to have cut feet.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 10:38 | 4682513 HardAssets
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If I were an evil genius wanting to employ Divide & Conquer strategies against my enemies, what would I do ?  Well, I might use the (hidden to most) tool of my fiat fake 'money' system to steal 97%+ of all they ever earned or saved during the last century - through long term printing induced inflation. After stealing that 97% I might tax them and 'give' back a few pennies to some specific groups. Pick out groups large enough & distinct enough to be easily identified. Then salt my owned media with some juicy commentary to get things going. Natural human tribalism will take over from there.

They will be fighting among themselves over the pennies, totally blind to the big picture of the 97% taken from all of them. They will fight and blame each other. They will never recognize their true common enemy or work together to rid themselves of him. The best part is that it plays into human vices - prejudice, simple mindedness & easy answers, rage expressed in ineffective violence.

Sounds like a plan.

And actually, you don't even need to be a genius to come up with this plan. Just have dumb opposition more driven by their  emotionalism than intelligence.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:16 | 4681849 snr-moment
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No.  They will be protecting the domestic areas and seizing farmlands to feed them.  Think you can take your farmland with you?  Yes, they will have to pacify the urbad rioting, but once accomplished, they will turn their attention to food.

Farmers always get it in the end. Just ask Stalin.  Then ask why there are vaccines for rabies and lymes disease for dogs, but not people.  Control.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:27 | 4682111 No Quarter
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Interesting- In the LA clip, the helicopters are circling around a bank and a multinational staffing/insurance company. Coincidence? Perhaps training for protecting the elites from the rable when SHTF? 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:33 | 4681663 boogerbently
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Is capitalism, communism, abortion, gay,gun rights, Christianity......

"good and wholesome and honorable."

Who decides ?


Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:50 | 4681689 erg
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Don't steal each other's shit, basic contructs. Don't fuck each other's wives. Don't blithely accept government grinding your face into the dirt because they tell ya you should.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:11 | 4681803 Calmyourself
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Gives a good summary and touches on the why's..

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 03:48 | 4681892 UselessEater
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interesting read including the comments, thanks. I thought this comment succinct:

"That is, socialism appeals to the regressed, fearful and not-quite adult. It’s why one so often meets sullen,aggrieved socialists who have no idea how life works and no plan for their own life outside the safety of governmental largesse. All they’re sure of is that life owes them and somebody gonna pay for what they didn’t get or don’t have. They are perfervidly envious redistributionists.

In the Coming Unpleasantness that is bound to happen in this country, none of The Dissenters will be socialists."

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:17 | 4681632 0b1knob
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Collapse of the dollar is the boogie man that the TBTF banks bring out whenever they want to shake the people down for a few trillion in bailouts.

The government collects ALL tax revenues in dollars.  Dollar collapse = government collapse.  We should be so lucky.

All we will get is more of the same.   Biflation and the end of the middle class.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 15:00 | 4683717 Leaping Lizard
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The problem is which government collapses?  The NWO order has to take down the USA to usher in a world feudalistic government, currency, bank, army, etc.  Been doing a hell of a job since Nixon (Kissinger - Rothschild fixer) went to China.  I think the revolution will be shooting at blue helmets,

They are also doing a hell of a job with their divide and conquer mind control shit.  Why do you think they installed a half black, pseudo-liberal project Monarch beta who was a male prostitute in high school in the White House.  From the comments I read here, they have us drooling like Pavlov's dogs.  Where were all the comments about Laura Bush when our idiot-in-chief presided over the 9/11 false flag, the stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the castration of the constitution?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:30 | 4681654 Mr. Magoo
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That could never happen here (sarc)

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:31 | 4681528 rubiconsolutions
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Uh, don't US soldiers get paid in dollars? Or is part of the planning some other kind of compensation? If (when) the dollar collapses I doubt that many soldiers will stick around on principle to fight all the domestic terrorists (See: Cliven Bundy).

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:23 | 4681645 Zadok
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I strongly suspect a large percentage of them will be stuck across the oceans and unable to get home when it matters.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:30 | 4681657 Mr. Magoo
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They might be better off

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:24 | 4681817 Keyser
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In Afghanistan, you've got to be kidding. 


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:24 | 4682296 dontgoforit
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My son was in Afghanistan and is still active army.  My grandson, a Marine, also did a tour there and one in Iraq - he got out.  Men will not follow orders to kill their own; however, they will fire on rioting groups in urban looting situations where the rioters are burning down the house. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:13 | 4681809 Calmyourself
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And you keep a mechanized division from leaving how?  Blow up your own ports & Airports or better idea help them leave..

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:15 | 4682246 TheFutureReset
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The hidden truth is that many military bases state side are huge unsustainable beasts. They need constant feeding to stay effective. Most barracks hold only 10% or fewer people in uniform and 0% of the bloated number of civilian contractors, the rest live in your neighborhood. If the bases are starved for supplies (medieval seige type) they will not be able to function. The same restraints on the general population will be felt by service members. Bottom line: their effectiveness will be very hard to sustain for any length of time. 

The same goes for local law enforcement. 

Long drawn out conflicts like Syria cannot happen in the US. One there will be no outside funding and arming. Two the US citizen is the best armed in the world. When the trigger event happens the government goons will be the last worry. We will be fighting ourselves for resources. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:24 | 4681646 DFCtomm
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You wouldn't fight for food, shelter, and the promise of pay in the future? Many will stay at least initially, till someone makes them a better offer. Spare parts however will be an entirely different issue. You know how many hours of maintenance required for one flight hour of F-22 raptor? 10.5.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:58 | 4681712 Spitzer
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You know how many hours of maintenance required for one flight hour of F-22 raptor? 10.5.


Couldn't they spy on the Russians to find out how to make a practical fighter ?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:23 | 4681764 DeadFred
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Practical fighters don't have the important couuting edge advantage and don't make as much money for the MIC

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:56 | 4682198 Dugald
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Surely its time to go back to Sopwith Camels etc...

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:59 | 4681717 TheMeatTrapper
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I have been on prepper websites and survivalist forums since 1999. Every time somebody asks "When will the <revoluton>/<SHTF>/<collapse> happen I always say the same thing:

The day the cops paychecks bounce - and not a day sooner. 

My Sheriff recently told a group of us, off the record, that when TSHTF he is sending his deputies home to protect their families - the people will be on their own. 

I shit you not. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:13 | 4681908 El Vaquero
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I hope APD does that, because I don't want to have to deal with a bunch of dick cops on top of all the other bullshit.  Especially since APD has proven time and time again that they are more than proficient with their firearms.  They just killed another person this morning. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:36 | 4682040 Took Red Pill
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If you want to see an example of how the police will respond, just look at what happened in New Orleans after Katrina.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 06:56 | 4681974 Cloud9.5
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Same thing here in Central Florida.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:15 | 4682003 stocktivity
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yeah...a lot of wackos here think their pop guns and ammo will  save them. They won't. Their guns and ammo will get them killed. Your best defense is to get off the recliners, quit ordering burgers & fries, lose weight and get your fat ass in good shape.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:49 | 4682392 toady
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Yeah, the only time a weapon will work for the average citizen is when they are in their element. Hunters in their blind, pimps behind the wheel of a large automobile, etc.

But when the hoard is snipping them from the woods, or the cops have the place surrounded, forget about it.

That's not including combat vets and the like.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:48 | 4682375 Drifter
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Then SHTF won't ever come, because cops' paychecks won't ever bounce, because Fed can print all the dollars needed to keep govt operating.

No, their checks won't bounce. Those dollars just won't buy anything. Just like dollars in your paycheck won't buy anything, dollars in social security checks won't buy anything, etc.

Society didn't break down in Weimar Germany when the mark lost all value. People simply adapted. They bought wheelbarrows to haul currency to the store for groceries.

We won't need wheelbarrows, we have debit and credit and EBT cards.

Society won't break down. Prices will just go thru the roof. Gas will be $100 / gal. Then $200 / gal. Then $500 / gal. Then $2,000 / gal.

As the dollar collapses and hyperinflation sets in, you'll get a raise every week and hastily buy stuff with your paycheck before prices double again in 3 days. Exactly what people did in Weimar Germany.

People won't have time to revolt, they'll be too busy trying to survive. Exactly what govt wants. People scurrying around trying to survive, no time for any revolution. And DHS military deployed everywhere with shoot-to-kill orders making sure people don't revolt.

What? DHS doesn't have enough goons? Of course they do. One squad in full military readiness can keep thousands of gutless so-called "patriots" from trying anything.

America is the first communist nation with 400 million privately owned guns. Just behave, keep those guns put away, and they'll let you keep 'em.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 13:38 | 4683282 XitSam
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It isn't the pay (minimal) that will keep them around and working for their statist masters.  It is the other benefits they won't be able to afford if they desert.  Food, shelter, medical care, and security1, for them and their family. The government will concentrate its resources on what keeps it in power.  Not so much maintenance for the F-22s, but supply the basics for the trigger pullers.

Stay alert for black market opportunites in this situation.

1- See Maslow's hierarchy of needs

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:17 | 4681633 DFCtomm
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The saga of Japan isn't nearly finished, and what happens after the joists give out? We hold hands and sing kumbaya my Lord while we starve? The bang is created by the air rushing to fill the vacuum left by the experiment.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 06:52 | 4681970 migra
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Your post is a voice of reason in a sea of tinfoil types. The idots here who hope for mayhem have not a clue what that really entails. If they did, they would be singing a different tune.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:00 | 4682212 JailBank
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I can't say for certain, but Japan have 42 million people that rely on government to wipe their ass? If you think the trailer parks and ghettos are going to empty out and these folks are just going come "borrow a cup of sugar", then you are mistaken sir.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:16 | 4681493 DoChenRollingBearing
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That's about it.  In TEOTWAWKI, not many will survive.


But a complete meltdown, IMO is not very likely.  I am betting more on "Great Depression v. 2", which would NOT be the end of the world, but extremely damaging to many.  Gold & guns and food & water are a big part of our preparations.

But, Mr and Mrs Bearing are too old to go and learn to farm.  We'll "Bug-In" our condo if it comes to that (or exfiltrate to Peru if we time it right).



Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:56 | 4681583 Soul Glow
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DoChen you been studying Peak Oil?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:21 | 4681643 Doubleguns
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dochen, its the disease that will get most. Not much shooting required. When meds are unavailable or to expensive. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:56 | 4681708 DoChenRollingBearing
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Peak Oil

Yes, I have been looking at that issue since Matthew Simmon's book  (Twilight in the Desert, IIRC) came out years ago.  Indeed, if the bad scenarios are right, it will be a killer.

No oil means just what you write.  No meds, no food, life would truly suck for even the 1% (or whoever is left).


On the other hand, one of my best friends (PhD in Geology, worked as a prized "Oil Finder" for Exxon) responded like this after I emailed re peak oil when I had finished that book:

"There's plenty of oil."

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:59 | 4681715 DFCtomm
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He's right. There is a great amount of oil in the ground, but it's all the hard to get stuff. You know of course hard equals expensive.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:42 | 4682043 Took Red Pill
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Yes, peak oil is not about no oil. It's about expensive oil. Cheap energy has been why we have the life style we do. That life style will change drastically when oil costs a lot more because it affects everything.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:50 | 4682053 Tengri Temujin
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DoChen I dont know about kicking it in a highrise condo in a foreign country that may not be too friendly to US nationals when the shit hits the fan.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 11:16 | 4682651 Urban Roman
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DoChen has family in Peru. I don't think I would fare very well there, even if DoChen would let me live with them.

Go where you know people and speak the language.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:54 | 4682058 samcontrol
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long companies that help get the "hard stuff".

personally, slb,sdrl,tot

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:35 | 4681669 DFCtomm
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The population of the third world is sustained by aid from the West in the form of food and medicine. When the West starts to go it will turn inward and the third world will starve. They will become weak, that together with over population and poor sanitation will cause plague. Billions will die.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:18 | 4681855 laboratorymike
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The corrupt governments that are keeping the third world at third world status will die, without foreign aid to prop them up any longer.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:20 | 4681903 RaiZH
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I have inherited farm land, but it's abroad... will my PMs be able to buy a plane ticket? Or will flights even be running :o

For me, oil>$200 ... I'm running for that life boat. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 07:44 | 4682045 Took Red Pill
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Who knows? Depends how bad it gets. Personally, I'd settle in before TSHTF.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 13:33 | 4683254 TheFutureReset
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I'd buy a sailboat. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:03 | 4681470 813kml
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I would hazard a guess that only about 5% of Americans have a clue how bad things are and how much worse it's going to get.  It's going to blindside so many people, but they will be distracted by war and Russia can be scapegoated as the cause.  Life is about to get very interesting.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:19 | 4681502 Skateboarder
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I was a lil' tyke when the Berlin wall was coming down. 90s kids didn't grow up with anti-Russian sentiments, and I don't think any of them/us feel any particularly toward Russians as being evil communists and such.

We are dealing with multiple nodes of memory here, i.e we haven't always been at war with {Eur,East}asia.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:13 | 4681625 macholatte
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We are dealing with multiple nodes of memory here,


...... and that is a primary reason why "old people" are exterminated when the Fascists/Progressives take over. Anyone with a real sense of history is too dangerous to be allowed to live. Burn the books and burn the old folks.


“History is written by the victors.”  Winston Churchill
Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:55 | 4681703 TheReplacement
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Nobody I knew (growing up in the 70-80s) thought Russian were evil.  Just about everyone thought communists were evil.  But then again, natural differences weren't pointed out day after day after day.  It wasn't how you were born but what you believed.  Today's kids don't believe in anything.  Yes, the old will have to go.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:27 | 4681821 Keyser
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Why? Because it was ground into us by all 3 networks. The MSM hasn't changed, we have. 


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:58 | 4681795 dirtscratcher
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I was a lil' tyke when the Berlin wall was coming down. 90s kids didn't grow up with anti-Russian sentiments, and I don't think any of them/us feel any particularly toward Russians as being evil communists and such.--Skateboarder.


Well, I was a l'il tyke during the Cuban Missile Crisis and I did grow up with anti-Russian feelings. But these ain't your grandpa's Russkies. I fear my own government more than I do Putin. And, at some deep interior level, I can't believe I'm saying that. Putin isn't a Marxist idealogue in the vein of Kruschev et al. He is a Nationalist for sure, but it appears, at least superficially, that any expansionist designs are limited to those areas that are historically of Russian ethnicity; no global ambitions on the horizon as of yet. On the other hand, my government is looking more and more like the tyranny more reminiscent of the old USSR. When I look at Putin, the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" comes to mind.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:19 | 4681910 El Vaquero
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I've always had a problem swallowing "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."  I see it more as, in the case of the USSR in WWII, allies of necessity.  That can have a way of coming back to bite you later if you don't have a real working relationship with the enemy of your enemy. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:13 | 4681743 TheMeatTrapper
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I agree. My next door neighbor and his wife are prime examples. Very nice house, 2 kids entering college, lake house, 4 wheelers, boat, golf cart, four new SUV's - you name it. 

We live next door. Two vehicles - both paid for. One kid. No toys. I trap beavers for food. My wife sews and does craft shows for extra money. We both cruise thrift stores and sell on Ebay. We garden.

They bitch because they can't afford to run their boat on the lake all summer. Gas is too expensive. 

The fatass husband rides around on a riding lawn mower. I chose to buy a generator instead of a riding mower. 

Last time the power went out, they came begging - wanted to borrow an extension cord to plug into my generator to run a fan. 


Talk about being fucked. And they look down their nose at me. I'm an animal murderering redneck. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:23 | 4681914 El Vaquero
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Talk about being fucked. And they look down their nose at me. I'm an animal murderering redneck. 

Fuck'em. Are the people you're describing probably think that meat grows on a bush in a Styrofoam tray?


I'm not much into trapping, but I am an animal murdering redneck myself.  I had elk enchiladas for dinner last night. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:32 | 4682121 epoxe
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There are only two types of people in this world. Those that will be just fine when the gubmint stops, and those who will die badly. I can tell you which side those who can trap/hunt/grow/preserve their own food will be on. Besides, animals are damn tasty. Much better than the shit you buy at the store.


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:17 | 4681851 SilverRhino
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Damn right on that one ... at this point, dont bother teaching it.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:32 | 4682120 Darth Stacker
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I've been war gaming these scenarios lately. I am not so sure about a collapse anymore. I was in Greece and Spain recently and it can get a whole lot worse here than what it is. I think if interest rates go up substantially then the Fed will buy the entire national debt. This will cause some inflation and I am not sure how the bond market or derivative markets will cope, but I think the real doomsday scenarios are over blown. Let the down votes begin!

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:33 | 4682124 epoxe
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Keep in mind Greece and Spain aren't the current world currency. When the USA goes back into the darkages, so does the world.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 13:56 | 4683377 TheFutureReset
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The US collapse will look nothing like Greece or Spain. There is a HUGE difference between folks from Texas say, and Greeks or Spaniards. There is a line somewhere that Americans won't cross. The Bundy Ranch debacle shows that. When the goons can't enforce their edicts anymore, States will get ballsy. We are not too far away from that now. If there is a "civil war" the moochers will be on the front lines.

The Fed has less and less control at every crisis. This next one could see a double blow with China/Russia offering an alternative at the same time as a Fed print fest. Smart money will flee the dollar. 

In fact, I think the recent restraint shown by the PBC over easing, is a way to differentiate itself from the Fed and the dollar. They are betting that the day will come when they can say, "the Fed will print when times get tough, we'll buckle down. Come join us." The PBC also thinks that that time is drawing near. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 10:09 | 4682450 markpower49
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Wrong. Deflation first, then hyperinflation. Inflationistas will be wiped out first; collect dollars for now. There's a lot of ruin in an empire, but I hope to watch it burn to the ground.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:34 | 4681537 Buck Johnson
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I totally agree with you, they won't be ready or react in time when it does.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:52 | 4681574 mumbo_jumbo
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"everyone who can fog a mirror is preparing for the collapse of the dollar"


yep cause every single country and person on the globe (probably even those who live in mud huts) will suffer in that event....which begs the question, "who really wants that"?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:13 | 4681742 yellencrash
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If that's the case, then "no debt" would be the wrong strategy. You'd want to borrow as much as possible and buy hard assetts then pay back the loans by selling assets when the dollar is worthless. We're going to see depression, THEN a dollar collapse after the debt defaults unwind. 

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:16 | 4681847 zebrasquid
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I agree

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 06:44 | 4681960 Jumbotron
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"If money isn't loosened up, this sucker could go down !"

George W. Bush

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:16 | 4682078 Croesus
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The key point is touched-on in this video, right between 1:00 - 1:32. I guess I'd better buy some Linked-In stock!



Tue, 04/22/2014 - 08:25 | 4682108 TrumpXVI
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You gotta' be kidding.

"Most people" don't believe the U.S. dollar will ever collapse....they don't believe it CAN collapse...they don't even have a concept of it.  If I were to bring up the collapse of the dollar with ANYONE I know (and they are ALL highly educated) they would laugh me out of the room!

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 14:11 | 4683461 TheFutureReset
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Totally agree. I'm getting out of the military right now and looking for jobs. Some family works for a large bank and said I could get a job there. I explained that being in the banking industry is very risky right now due to the dollar moving toward collapse. They couldn't even formulate that thought in their heads. "the gov wouldn't let that happen, how would we pay taxes, how would people get paid, how would people do accounting? (TPTB) would lose everything, and so much has been built around the dollar, that couldn't happen." I was stunned at their... ignorance. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:06 | 4681478 Dapper Dan
Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:10 | 4681619 IridiumRebel
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I'm a long slow collapse believer, but children start being shot and you'll see folks "take it to the mattresses".

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:32 | 4681918 El Vaquero
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The employment-population ratio peaked, oh, somewhere around 2000.  We've been in a long slow collapse for over a decade.  It just took the events of 2007 and 2008 to make that clear to anybody who really, and I mean really, gives a shit about what's actually going on.  I think it's going to be a painful decline with a lot of gradual crumbling, punctuated with massive shocks, like 2008.  Only, one of those shocks could be the end. 


So, if you see children getting shot tomorrow, and tomorrow spells the end, it's still been a grinding slow collapse with the dead kids being the one of those punctuated massive shocks. 


And I await the lapel camera video from the woman that Albuquerque Police shot this morning to see if it jives with the officer's story.  That is, if he didn't disable it before shooting.  Given the atmosphere at the last near riot over James Boyd, it may not need to be kids getting shot that kicks off a shit storm.  People are getting closer to a breaking point.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:09 | 4681481 Citxmech
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OMFG - I thought that this just had to be a fucking joke.

My only question is whether anybody thinks that perhaps they do this kind of shit just to rile-up the militia types into action that they can then smack down.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:16 | 4681629 Lord Koos
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WTF wouldn't they have white people on targets... they are the majority.  Don't forget the OK City bombing, that wasn't the Black Panthers.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:59 | 4681713 TheReplacement
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I suppose you practice with pictures of minority children?  You are one stupid sick bastard.  How much are they paying you to post this garbage?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:19 | 4681761 Future Jim
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You make such a compelling, dispassionate, and logical point-by-point counter argument that I have no choice but to agree.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:50 | 4681432 Sinnedi
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Remember do not fight citizens in this crisis.

Fight the esoteric mystery schools for enslaving us beyond belief 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:08 | 4681600 intric8
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This post raises the most fundamental and existential question - what really backs the u.s. dollar? Ive heard explanations ranging from taxes (the ability to tax) to the physical assets of our federal govt. When shit really gets ugly though, we cant expect that paper to be redeemable for anything.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4681721 TheReplacement
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556, 762, 9, 40, 45, 50... yeah, most of your redemption values right there.


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 04:57 | 4681922 El Vaquero
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What backs the dollar?  Well, that's simple.  Three things:


1) Debt.  I bet you don't really know your neighbor's debt situations, but I bet it is quite bad for a number of them given how much debt there is.  Somebody owes a debt in dollars?  Well, they'll accept yours.


2) Force.  Don't pay your debts to the IRS.  I dare you.  Fuck it.  I'm skipping double dog dare and going to triple dog dare.  Don't pay your taxes to the IRS.  Or your state taxes. I triple dog dare you.   Default on a loan, get taken to court, and see what happens when you lose the case by default of stipulated judgment (something like 90% or 95% of cases end this way) And that's not even getting into military force against other countries.  This relies on circumstantial evidence, so I'll leave you to your own devices to figure that one out.


3) Petrodollars.  You wanna buy oil?  Be ready to fork out US dollars.  It was a sweet system when it was instituted, but now that shit is going south, it is becoming full retard.  How would you react if you were heading towards an iceberg at 20 or so knots?  Well, if you didn't have a lifeboat, you'd probably go full retard and rearrange the deck chairs too. 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:53 | 4681433 Kreditanstalt
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Not going to watch this sensationalism.  This is an advertisement, a loss-leader to get your email address and bombard you with subscription ads from then on...

And I really don't need a condo or time-share in Costa Rica...or is it Argentina?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:57 | 4681447 Almost Solvent
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Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:00 | 4681458 TruthInSunshine
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Totally agreed, Kreditanstalt.

This analysis is such utter rubbish that it is hard to believe any mentally say ,e person could produce it (and suggests it was the product of an irrational no d).

If one cares to objectively reflect on history, and the 2008-2009 timeframe in particular, the only reason the global economy didn't enter an immediate & permanent full blown depression (although particulars can be debated) is that the Fed opened the floodgates of USD liquidity, going so far as to allow foreign private banks AND central banks to essentially tap unlimited dollar denominated assets, collateral & swap arrangements in order to stabilise their own currencies.

I'm EXTREMELY bearish on the U.S. Economy (as well as those of EU nations and most EMs, including the crumbling BRICs), but even with that said, and as just one example, consider that China's central bank'created the equivalent of at least 3.7 times (and probably closer to 5x) the dollar weighted amount of CNY since 2008, and dare tell me that despite the endemic illness affecting the
U.S. and most other economies, that this Casey Research note is anythingnother than hyperbolic, ridiculous garbage/clickbait.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:06 | 4681469 Soul Glow
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Don't forget they - CogDis' Elite - set the system up to fail.  The crash was brought on by banks that went bankrupt because the other banks left them out of the lending game.  Bear and Lehman could have gotten loans from the other banks but were shunned - this to create the crisis.  The very crisis that led to floodgates of dollars being lent to the Un-named banks.

These Un-named banks are the roundtable that heads the Fed.  JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley.  Now they have been named.  Let the universe wreck havoc on the souls of any men who support them.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:45 | 4681552 Spitzer
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@ Truthtoshine


You don't have the slightest clue as to what happened in 2008. As odd as it may  sound, , the Fed printing in 2008 postponed the loss of confidence in the dollar. If the Fed didn't step in, the dollar would have been crushed (hyperinflation) (loss of confidence)

It all goes back to this

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:02 | 4681579 TruthInSunshine
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1st, reading comprehension appears to be a very consistent weakness of yours.

2nd, if the Fed's printing of USD AND LIQUIDITY POOL saved the global economy from a total collapse in 2008 (something you appear to concede, although you threw in the 'postpone' word), then what will "postpone" another global collapse the next time (if a USD currency substitute, please name it; if not, please also identify the asset)?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:14 | 4681627 Spitzer
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2nd, if the Fed's printing of USD AND LIQUIDITY POOL saved the global economy from a total collapse in 2008

It temporarily saved the dollar from the natural progression that a debtor currency takes when the economy of the said debtor is imploding.

then what will "postpone" another global collapse the next time

Nothing. I am unsure if you understand what is at play....

If the Fed refrained from printing and bailing out anyone in 2008, do you think the dollar would have went up and stayed up ?

Yes or No

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:05 | 4681731 TheReplacement
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So printing dollars prevented hyperinflation... wait, what?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:51 | 4681865 Spitzer
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Priting dollars in 2008 prevented the loss of confidence in the $. Temporarily....

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:26 | 4681762 Kirk2NCC1701
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The private banking cartel of fiat currency that you mention, has its entire business model based on what this film portrays:

"BANKING BAD -  the creation, addiction and consequences of a narcotic global currency"

The drug makers and their elite get rich, their enforcers enjoy a comfy, cozy lifestyle, and its clients experience economic havoc for the financial 'high' of fiat credit.

I'm somewhat surprised and rather disappointed that some notable ZH bloggers above fail to realize this.  But then, very VERY few people have true, multi-disciplinary system analysis skills -- in spite of whatever other skills and intelligence they might possess -- so perhaps I should not be surprised.

Let's not give in to the Stockholm Syndrome, but keep our clarity and determination to "out" this unprecedented global scam and global web of evil, that just happens to be centered in the US.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:12 | 4681487 Skateboarder
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Dat nigga don't speak right.

It's rare that I vote on articles, but I gave this a 1.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:16 | 4681497 robertocarlos
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You could have just said "best horse in the glue factory".

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:10 | 4681620 Angus McHugepenis
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TIS: I stopped reading the Casey Research bullshit about 3 years ago. I clicked the second video link and laughed my ass off when it directs to a page that requires your email address to watch the "Exclusive World Premiere Documentary"...

Again, LMFAO...

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:18 | 4681635 TruthInSunshine
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Casey Research & Simon Black should conduct a joint seminar in some utopian, tax-free, 100% sovereign/free offshore island, advising people as to which governmental regime to live under, which warlords/gang leaders/dictators to bribe, and how to live free from any & all adverse consequences of governmental abuse of power and/or warlord/gang leader/dictatorial edict.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:02 | 4681722 Serenity Now
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Truth is right.  What happened in 2008 was not a dollar collapse, it was a credit bubble collapse.  It was the end of a very large Ponzi scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen and will never see again.  This Ponzi scheme was predicated on the idea that Americans could mortgage houses to infinity, while said houses doubled in price every two or three years, ignoring the facts that incomes did not double.

This idea was then taken further to financialize the mortgage market, creating hundreds of trillions of dollars in derivatives, which every pension, nation, corporation, and government bought into.  THAT, along with the unending supply of student loans, credit cards, and car loans, was the hyperinflation.  

Now, when a Ponzi scheme ends, all that fake wealth goes POOF.  It's the fake asset that collapses, not the currency that it was dominated in.

Likewise, as subprime mortgages began to default, and banks began to go under because of those bad loans, the entire fake asset structure (aka the derivatives based on the US mortgage market) began to crumble.  POOF.  Massive deflation.

So, the government stepped in and prevented all that bad debt from being wiped out.  I'm sure millions of people, businesses, banks, and governments would have been ruined, so I'm not saying that it wouldn't have been a horrible worldwide depression (it would have been).  But throwing good money after bad is not the right economic solution.  I'm not sure about other countries, but in the US that's what bankruptcy is for.  The inevitable is just being postponed, and it is surely not for your benefit.

Yes, the Fed has been "printing" money, but that inflation (increase in the money supply) has not been able to overcome the deflation (decrease in the money supply due to the POOF of the Ponzi scheme collapsing).  Most people don't understand the definitions of inflation/deflation.  They think those words mean price increase/decrease.  Not true.  If people understood the correct terms and definitions, they would know that we are on a long slow deflationary path.  That does not mean, however, that the dollar is toast.  

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:29 | 4681808 TruthInSunshine
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People like Spitz may never understand the mechanics because they're viewing things through a predetermined morality aperture.

2008 was, as you stated, a liquidity dust bowl/massive credit crunch & crash.

And this was an inevitable & overdue curative cleansing in response to conditions that a prior liquidity tsunami created, where anyone able to fog a mirror could borrow debt to purchase deflationary assets.

The problem is that central banks prescribed medicine in the form of the exact same liquidity flood that led to the crisis, rather than allowing for a deeper and more curative brush fire burn, which would have stood a better chance of preventing the next & worse crash we're about to experience (it's actually already underway in earnest, but being camouflaged by painting the
financial tape & government cooking of the books).

The ultimate irony is that people like Spitz, who most likely hold up the yuan as some sort of better fiat currency, truly fail to realize that the PBoC printed (in USD and not CNY terms) 15 trillion USD to the Fed's 3.4 trillion over the course of the last 5 years, and that 110 trillion yuan is now coursing through the Chinese banking/financial system and economy as rapidly souring debt, never to be repaid or redeemed, that is doing and will continue to do massive structural damage to the Chinese Economy.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:41 | 4681826 Serenity Now
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Truth, "curative brush fire burn" is a great phrase.  That is exactly what was needed.  I have fleeting moments when I wonder if the Fed is able to pull off a "controlled burn," which is what I think they are attempting.  How long can they possibly keep it up?  Longer than I thought, so far.  But with $500 - $1000 trillion in derivatives out there, where would they get the money to temper the deflation (as all that fake wealth goes poof)?  That is where my understanding of this comes to a screeching halt.  Your thoughts?

Also, great comment on China printing $15 trillion to our $3.4 trillion over the last five years.  I didn't know the numbers.  I knew they were following our mistakes, but I didn't know the exact figures.  I've read several articles discussing their credit system, and WOW, is it off the charts worse than ours (think loan sharks and 150% interest rates as the norm).  Sorry I don't have links to the articles.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 02:55 | 4681869 Spitzer
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The irony !

Here you go with your "cleanest dirty shirt" BS on the USD again.You are a closet dollar bull who doesnt even realize it


Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:21 | 4682282 KansasCrude
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If you think the FED only printed $3.4 Trilion I got a bunch of bridges for sale.....  Many others would put that number well over $30 Trillion.  Wouldn't be surprised if its more than double that.  I think the reports of nearly $18 Trillion alone for Europe is close to reality.  Your understanding of the derivatives implosion is most likely inhibiting your perspectives on how big the mess was.  If you are saying printing in a literal way then maybe so the other tens of trillions were digitally mastered so to speak

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 16:58 | 4684171 TruthInSunshine
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Okay, and if you think the PBoC "only" printed 15 trillion USD I have a bunch of bridges for sale to you, for the same precise reason...

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:14 | 4681494 Kreditanstalt
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Same video?  Without the email collection?

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:21 | 4681504 blindman
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i think so.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:45 | 4681553 Pure Evil
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The best part (about a third of the way through) was when they started talking about how you should capitalize on the collapse.

Starting about 13:48.

To surmise:

Yes, think of all the misery, but start thinking about how you can profit off someone else's misery.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:54 | 4681581 FieldingMellish
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That's just Pure Evil.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:59 | 4681589 Pure Evil
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Actually, it was almost hilarious.

They show all the misery of Yugoslavia, Zimbabwe and Argentina for about 13 minutes and 45 seconds, then, BAM!, its like, they start talking about how you should position yourself to capitalize off the coming collapse in America.

Its like WTF? Talk about cognitive dissonance.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:31 | 4681772 kurt
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I watched a co worker after the dotcom collapse. He'd lost 70% of his net worth. Do you think that cured his greed bug, his "I wanna' be a big shot" dreams. Nope. He took all of what was left, walked into an "investment" company and said he wanted to play with the big boys. The firm he chose uses cheap spots on AM radio to lure in the rubes. They took his money and he got 8 pages which ill defined a commercial reit with a exotic name. I read it for him and pointed out intensive holes and risks and restrictions. 

He became near catatonic at work, fading, fading. The doctors gave him all kinds of crap. In three months he was dead, and broke. His wife got an urn and the mortgaged house they were living in.

Let the buyer beware.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:54 | 4681834 Serenity Now
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That's really sad.  He might as well have taken his money to Vegas, for all he probably knew about investing.  I don't mean that in a snarky way.  

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 23:03 | 4681597 Kreditanstalt
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Terrible crummy video...didn't tell me anything we didn't already know...played it as background while playing online chess...

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:19 | 4681812 Calmyourself
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Because none of you sophisticated folks have a throwaway e-mail wtf?

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 01:56 | 4681835 Serenity Now
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I never claimed to be sophisticated, but one shouldn't have to subscribe to propaganda.  ;)

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 06:53 | 4681971 Serenity Now
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And I didn't junk you, btw.  :)

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:57 | 4681441 Soul Glow
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Bush knocked down the Towers!

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:55 | 4681443 Spumoni
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Dick Cheney Productons...scare them white boys, fellas! We gos an 'elleckshun comin'! 

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:58 | 4681452 Soul Glow
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He is a fucking vampire, I'm telling ya.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:59 | 4681450 TruthInSunshine
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Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:03 | 4681466 Soul Glow
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You are making me jump around.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 21:58 | 4681451 dutchTender
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if you look at japanese treasury holdings v.s chinese holdings (net buyer v.s net seller) .... the u.s dollar clearly also buys you milatary protection ...

also those 777 boeing contracts ..that's in dollars, raytheon fighter jet contracts, in dollars, lockeed martin drones need dollars


so i agree, that oil and gold creates  heavy demand for the dollar. and those are big ones ... but don't under estimate the power of u.s milatary.

any one else thinks something is fishy with belgium becoming the third largest holder of u.s debt ..while bankers are getting murdered in day iight ..



Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:50 | 4681563 Spitzer
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As Casey Research noted a few weeks ago, Belgium is in the custodian business. If you follow the trail, Russia simply sold some of their treasuries and bought them back in a Belgian account to skirt possible sanctions.

(btw I don't have a dog at Casey RS but they are alright guys. )

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:58 | 4681584 TruthInSunshine
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Can you provide a single, solitary shred/morsel of proof to support your bizarre 'Russia is buying U.S. T-Notes' via Belgium claim?

And thanks for testifying as to the moral fiber of the snake oil salesmen at Casey Research. That really counts for a lot.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 00:14 | 4681746 TheReplacement
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I don't think Russia was doing what he stated but what if they were the buyers?  More Ts = more currency crushing leverage, no?  Maybe they can't really convince China to dump so they decide to stock up (no pun intended) on leverage while the Fed backs off.  Maybe a crazy thought but hey, they don't call him crazy Ivan cuz you can predict him.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:00 | 4681459 HyeM
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MELTDOWN IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN....GARTMAN just ran this headline:  "Gartman sounds the all clear for stocks"...wait 24-hours and short stocks. Here we go again :-)

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:01 | 4681463 TideFighter
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Slavery will come back to the US. But, who will be the slaves this time around?  

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:05 | 4681472 Soul Glow
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We'll hang Chuck Schumer and Lloyd Blankfien side by side.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:05 | 4681474 Travis Bickel
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The final sign of the Beast has arrived:

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:32 | 4681529 Soul Glow
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Immortal Technique Discusses Illuminati -

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:56 | 4681565 Pure Evil
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So who's right?

Casey Research says the apocalypse is just around the corner while Gartman says the apocalypse has already happened and its time to BTFATH in stocks again.

No wonder the fucking sheeple just sit around and bleat all day.

Too many opposing viewpoints.

Better to just sit there until they prod you up the chute and into the slaughter house.

Tue, 04/22/2014 - 09:18 | 4682267 ratpack1968
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Most market pundits and investment letter gurus are modern day snake oil salesmen.  Most newsletters and gurus operate on the broken clocks principle or the throw enough shit against the wall some of it will inevitably stick strategy. Behavioral bias does the rest.

Too many variables at play to accurately predict a specific outcome so you have to spread it around - hard assets, paper assets, food water, protection and one or more marketable SKILLS.


Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:11 | 4681488 robertocarlos
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A General would have to stage a coup and then withdraw the troops back to the USA. Play nice with Canada and then start again from the bottom of the second world.

Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:11 | 4681490 bubblemania
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Mon, 04/21/2014 - 22:17 | 4681499 A Lunatic
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I actually prefer not to allow my imagination, or worse yet that of someone else, to dictate my actions.......

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