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Here Come The Boots On The Ground: US Troops Heading To Eastern Europe
It seems the truce "deal" is well and truly dead...
- 600 U.S. TROOPS HEADING TO EUROPE FOR EXERCISES: PENTAGON
- U.S. AIRBORNE TROOPS GOING TO POLAND, LITHUANIA, LATVIA,ESTONIA
- U.S. MILITARY EXERCISES ARE IN RESPONSE TO UKRAINE CRISIS:KIRBY
- MORE MILITARY EXERCISES 'COMING THROUGH' NATO: PENTAGON
The question now, of course, is - what will Putin do in response to this action?
As for where these troops may be arriving from the answer is simple: that other US military intervention success story - Afghanistan. From Reuters:
The number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan may drop well below 10,000 - the minimum demanded by the U.S. military to train Afghan forces - as the longest war in American history winds down, Obama administration officials briefed on the matter say.
Since Afghanistan's general election on April 5, White House, State Department and Pentagon officials have resumed discussions on how many American troops should remain after the current U.S.-led coalition ends its mission this year.
The decision to consider a small force, possibly less than 5,000 U.S. troops, reflects a belief among White House officials that Afghan security forces have evolved into a robust enough force to contain a still-potent Taliban-led insurgency. The small U.S. force that would remain could focus on counter-terrorism or training operations.
That belief, the officials say, is based partly on Afghanistan's surprisingly smooth election, which has won international praise for its high turnout, estimated at 60 percent of 12 million eligible votes, and the failure of Taliban militants to stage high-profile attacks that day.
The Obama administration has been looking at options for a possible residual U.S. force for months.
"The discussion is very much alive," said one U.S. official who asked not to be identified. "They're looking for additional options under 10,000" troops.
There are now about 33,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, down from 100,000 in 2011, when troop numbers peaked a decade into a conflict originally intended to deny al Qaeda sanctuary in Afghanistan after the September 11, 2001, attacks.
Of course, it would be peak irony if the next country Russia decides to destabilize is none other than its old "buddy" Afghanistan, which lately appears far more amicable toward the Kremlin than the White House. It certainly would be an additional egg in the face of US foreign policy if Aghaniitan - so critical to the US controlled heroin trade - were to show a return to some of its Taliban roots for which it is so well-known.
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Why need American pussy drugs when you have Krokodile?
Actually most of it goes to Iran which has about the worst heroin addiction rates of any country in the world. Its also substantial part of the Afganistan GDP. Win-win for the USA.
Well, at least the native hotties will be better than in Afg.
I remember having read about it. It seems like the supply chain going through Russia is one of the longest in the world.
I think Russia understood that Afghanistan would simply be a big waste of ressources for the U-S so they must have been pretty happy to help them dif their own grave.
Just in case they need to go in and liberate east Ukraine, don't forget the 600 body bags. Hope it's just those poor minority types and immigrants looking for citizenship. Mommas send your sons to die, don't even know the reason why. Anyone voluntarily fighting under the treasonous command of US "leadership" is begging for whatever they get.
Half a league, half a league, into the valley of death rode the 600. This will be the trip wire to reinstitute the draft. That is where the U.S. troops will eventually come from.
There will never *ever* be a draft in the U.S. again.
It would be the New York draft riots of 1863 to the power of 10.
They will offer the young hessians 100K a year to kill patriots. The savages that live in our cities would kill each other to sign up. Already, some enlisted folks make very close to that if they have certain MOS's (drone trigger men/women and nuclear navy people, as just two examples)
There are a LOT of fucked up people willing to kill other people for a few shekels. The systematic destruction of the education system has ensured an ample supply of fools and murderers.
My next door neighbor, a friend and quasi-neocon that I have been trying to de-program for a few years, just sent his only son off to be a bullet stopper infantryman in the US Army. This kid mowed my lawn for years. Ive taken him fishing. I have made it clear to my neighbor that I hold him and his wife and son DIRECTLY responsible for what is occuring and what will occur both in Ukraine and here.
I have very real hatred for these monsters. Pray that they don't succeed. You don't have to pray for their deaths. They are responsible for whatever happens to them. Just pray that they don't succeed.
Even the most ardent Obamabots are on YouTube burning their hope and change T-shirts. They will not lay down their lives for the Kenyan.
Going hungry is easier than being shot at and gassed. The 3 percent will lay their lives and treasure on the line to right the ship, just like they did in the 1770s.
There are no jobs. Young men and women will line up by the millions and they will, automaticly, have a job.
Zero hedge readers tend to be awake. Most others are sleeping.
The bottom 90% of military work is hard and bleak. Even in this jobless recovery, today's yutes aren't vounteering in sufficient numbers for the military... and you would like us to believe they will line up to be shot and gassed rather than go to prison or go awol?
US Zionist regime will never fuck with Russia....this is hot air pretty much
Could it be that this another version of the red team / blue team divide? What if they are on the same team?
Russia is flying spy planes over US
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/18/pentagon-moves-to-block-russian-spy-plane-in-american-skies.html
Us is flying spy planes over russia
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-conducts-spy-flight-over-russia/
Russian toops are reglarly on US soil for training for keeping the peace (or perhaps practicing gun confiscation)
http://www.inquisitr.com/828674/russian-troops-on-american-soil-confirmed/
What if after the coming war Obummer has more power than ever and is finally free of the pesky congressional roadblocks to hs ambitions?
What if the NWO has already diversified out of USD and will actually benefit from the USD collapse?
i think that is the plan.
Durablefaith - There are games within games. We think in 3D like a pyramid but have built tools refecting our evolution to go one step deeper (quantum computing 4D). Think of chess. Anyways, when elephants dance, ants get trampled. Get out of there way.
Want to think straight and not get overwhelmed or misled? Think conceptually. Concepts are simple. Truth, freedom justice, love. We live in a binary existance so the opposite of those concepts also exist: Lies, injustice hate. We have to deal with that and recognize there reality and hedge accordingly. What laws should be followed? Ones that make sense on the concepts that increase value and quality of life.
Below concepts on the pyramid of thought are issues and below that details. What is 666? Think basic geometry, dimension of 6x6x6 are a pryamid (of monarchy). Nikoli Tesla was obsessed with 3x3x3. Pyramid is how we think but we are nearly evolved past that. In between do what is right and try to enjoy the adventure. We all die someday. Even considering quantum physics and exploring 4d (since we're now punching holes in it) the ego does not seem to be able to be brought with you. That theory can soon be explored.
The existence seems to be birth and rebirth endlessly. Have a little fun and don't live in fear! But do defend against robbers which is part of our evolution. In the end this is what conquest always is about.
God bless peoples of all nations! Nobody can ever fool me again into hate but I will remain wise as a serpent, gentle as a dove - till you rob me too far and then I must exercise the concepts of justice and balance. First, let the robbers kill each other off a bit so there power is diminished. They have no choice, we are made the way we are made. Timing as they say is everything.
Raging Debate - insightful comment on several levels (pun intended).
I am certainly enjoying the adventure. I think homesteading preppers are the ultimate optimists. They know what is going on (lies, injustice, hate, chemtrails, fracking, police state implementation, etc) and still plant gardens and work towards resilienct systems on their (not tax free) land.
As you say, we must choose our path and must live (and quite possiblly die) with the consequences of our choices. No fear here. I take comfort in knowing that a day of reckoning is coming for the evil doers.
What if after the coming war Obummer has more power than ever and is finally free of the pesky congressional roadblocks to hs ambitions?
http://russiapedia.rt.com/prominent-russians/politics-and-society/anatoly-chubais/
When asked to name their most hated countryman, many Russians would indicate Chubais. He is blamed for creating the system of oligarchs, and impoverishing millions as a result of his economic reforms.
Since September 2008 he has been a member of the advisory body of financial services giant JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Interesting So not only do we have soros focused on the USSA, we have Chubais working closely with the largest shareholder in the federal reserve. Awesome.
Interesting So not only do we have soros focused on the USSA, we have Chubais working closely with the largest shareholder in the federal reserve. Awesome.
That's funny, I've kind of been thinking the same thing. This is all part of the strategy to usher in the New World. It seems the system is crashing, being exposed, etc. and the players are losing patience.
NWO: Oh lordy lordy please don't let it be Obama. PLEASE!
That there is why this theory probably doesn't hold water.
One of these days these boots are gonna walk all over you ....'
O Great Owl of Bohemia!
We thank thee for thy adjuration.
Begone detested care!
Begone!
Once more, we banish thee!
Begone Dull Care!
Fire should have its will of thee!
Begone Dull Care!
And all the winds make merry with thy dust
Hail, fellowship's eternal flame!
Once again Midsummer sets us free!
THIS IS WHY ^^^
I've mentioned this a few X be 4. GO WSGI. Yeah Baby!
An honest question to military folks who serve in our collective forces.
Do any of you lot keep up to date on the current news, and if you do, do you not wonder, question, and ask dissenting questions to your superiors about you as in YOU, having to put your life on the line for THEIR ideals?
Do you never faulter in what these people ask you do in their names?
Its time for the truth my military friends, its way beyond time to lie down your arms in acts of aggresion and look after your collective home lands, meaning enemies DOMESTIC, rather then forgien.
I've never understood this, asking a man to kill for your filthy government, and not in protection of himself?
??
Nah,
It's a paycheck to blow shit up. It's fun.
infant-ry... they are boys and can't grasp this kinda stuff after 14 years of public "school" brainwashing.
Here is the answer to your question: If the US war machine learned anything from Vietnam, it was that there was no future in the old system of drafting civilians. They did question things all of the time. After about 1970, many refused to deploy. There were allot of riots and mutanties that were never reported in the press. No, the "citizen soldier" model had to go. They wanted warriors who would not question their superiors, TO NOT THINK, JUST OBEY. That is what they got with their vollunteer services. Willing warriors who were not drafted, but who ask to be there. Don't count on many asking allot of questions besides:"WHEN DO WE ATTACK?"
A-fucking-men, ITM. Read my post above. I've come to the conclusion that the IQ of the average soldier must be somewhere south of 85. That comment isnt meant to disparage off-handedly. These people seem to be seriously mentally limited. This includes officers. You'd think they would actually know how to read.
Speaking from experience I can tell you that the news doesn't matter to these guys and they are brainwashed. 20 year olds don't read the news anyway, they're too busy chasing tail and getting drunk till they puke their brains out. They are told who the enemy is, what the "enemy" is "doing" and what they must do to stop them, no matter how real or not. They follow orders, and if they don't they are sent to Leavenworth to make big rocks into small rocks. They are under contract and that contract will not be breeched.
Shit, the media has half the country convinced the Russians are trying to take over Eurasia. How hard is it for commanders to convince soldiers.
maybe this is all for show, being the new form of "hyper-reality entertainment".
up next, the new new world order.
call me optimistic.
Speak for yourself not for 'These Guys'.
You know ho heart but your own.
What you are saying is true for some Police Officers and a few Soldiers.
My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is that most rank-and-file will WANT to believe the propaganda, for to believe it is untrue is to believe that you've sold your soul. But FEW would do what you say they would, and then only up to the point where they could see what it was. Propaganda is no shield before a hail of bullets or the all-encompassing fear that generally accompanies them.
Your brainwashing theory is propaganda and not born out by real life experience. If what you said was true, you would never have heard of Abu Ghraib or the other abuses.
Rather, you have heard of them because what you say is not true, because some '20-year-old Private' had the courage to speak out. Look at Bradley Manning!
Only a tiny, tiny percentage have psychopathic tendencies. Higher ranks will be more capable of detachment from the moral dimensions of their activities, some from ambition, others from blindness born of long committment to the Service.
REGARDLESS, the Armed Forces overwhelmingly chose RON PAUL and the ideas for which he stands. That's on record both in absentee ballots from two elections and in every poll. That is direct counter evidence to your 'brainwashed' theory.
Good points all. It's been awhile since I was in. Back then, when there was still a wall, we only had the stars and stripes. I suppose times have changed. Hopefully more are in tune as you say. Your last point says a lot.
Yes, look at Bradley Manning. How's he doing? How many others have followed suit?
Abu Ghraib happened because the soldiers were treating the "enemy" like dirt. Because Iraqis are our enemies right? There's that patriotic idealism again, serving the purpose of our masters. You see, they were brainwashed into thinking the Iraqis were our enemies. Reality says otherwise.
I did not imply that they are psychopathic, nor do I think they are. The are only young, dumb, and full of cum.
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dear joker. yes. that is how an army is taught. and used. and useful. make them berserk. army doesn't leave anybody a lot of time to 'think' - if they wanted to think, they could be librarians.
they are taught how to 'respond' in any particular situation the army has trained them to.
one of the reasons why vietnam caused so much anguish, those boys hadn't been taught to deal with what they came up against, they had been taught how to 'respond' to
what you and i (untrained) would see has horrors, but they were presented other horrors and couldn't deal with it. (and wanted out).
The US learned so much from WW2.......they learned to use war to attain goals not territory, and they modelled the USMC on the Waffen-SS as shock troops with Panzer and Artillery and air support.
The US has pursued Hitler's objective of knocking out Russia but this time with Jewish emigre descendants of Russian Jews in the cockpit in DC.
It is funny how Europe has become little more than a wrapper for US foreign policy each nation state hollowed out as little more than a franchise much like GM turned Buick and Olds into badges.....
Funny old world really
Two words: Operation Paperclip.
PS- The Nazis won the war.
The US learned so much from WW2.......they learned to use war to attain goals not territory, and they modelled the USMC on the Waffen-SS as shock troops with Panzer and Artillery and air support.
The US has pursued Hitler's objective of knocking out Russia but this time with Jewish emigre descendants of Russian Jews in the cockpit in DC.
It is funny how Europe has become little more than a wrapper for US foreign policy each nation state hollowed out as little more than a franchise much like GM turned Buick and Olds into badges.....
Funny old world really
Sending US soldiers is just a token gesture....they will never in a million years directly engage the Russians.
sending US troops to pretty much anywhere else in the world right now would be a token gesture...
sending airborne operators to eastern Europe in a time of extremely heightened tensions is not a token gesture in any sense of the term.
it is a blatant and intentional escalation.
it's not just about the troops or the numbers it's about what they are bringing with them and what, exactly their mandate, their mission is.
the only way to guarantee their will never be an engagement is for one side or the other or both to not be in such proximity that makes an engagement possible in the first place.
once you cross that rubicon conflict becomes not only possible, many times more likely.
in my humble opinion, all bets are off now.
You are either a fool, or someone who hasn't been around long enough to see how wrong things can go.
Or both...poster seems ignorant that evil has not limits
They will learn Polish and defect
They will learn Polish and defect
hoho, the queer, i mean queen, sent them with no tanks.
"your plan to set up the army is going well, dear."
"thanks, reggie."
This is a very bad idea and will cause nothing but problems and sew instability in the region.
That is the Idea. Chaos and more Chaos, that, brings in the PROFIT
Oh and I forgot, also THE CLAIMS.
Claims on Pensions
Claims on Insurance (Is there any money after all the Scams?)
Claims in GOLD
Claims in SILVER
Claims in Gov.Bonds
Claims...
Claims...
Claims...
Claims...
Claims...
Claims...
Whart better than, to KILL THE CLAIMANT????
black ops has too much time on their hands, hence they need a new war zone. How can blackwaters make profit if there are no hot wars.
Man, these dudes will rot in hell a billion years to come. Better yet, the Neocons in DC need the T sentence. US Constitution? What Constitution? O....the one we used as toilet paper. Sorry its down the loo now, so can't reference it.
Transgendered Pink Berets & Pride Bergade on the way! Woohoo!
Uh-oh.
Here come the 'advisors'.
Deja-vuuuuuu...Vietnam.
Instead of gooks, we got Ukes.
600 less to shoot me from some rooftop.
Iraq 11 the sequel, first the bullshit, next anyone who dares disagree is a traitor, then the murder brigade goes to work and a few corporations rake in the coin.
For the soldiers and civilians killed, 'We regret to inform you....'
Time to fire the administration for not upholding the oath of office.
Who is going to pay for all this?
Good question, it won't be me. Murder is against my faith and as far as I am concenred whoever penned the ten commandments has a little more on the ball than Obama and crew.
The bankers. They just keep printing money
'Very Bullish,' I'm sure GS would say.
UN mercenaries not USTroops
Was this decided before or after Biden told Putin to withdraw his forces???
Where have I seen this movie before.......thats right, back in the early 60s, when the gubmint sent into Vietnam "a small number of advisors", so as to not arouse public suspicion. This is the way it is done; you send in several hundred, then several thousand, then tens of thousands, then, before you know it, there are hundreds of thousands of our young men {and women} going into the meat grinder. How many divisions and air wings does the US have in europe right now? Hopefully, all this is, is to bolster the courage of the Baltic States and Poland. But I fear something far worse is in the cards. The key two nations to watch in all of this are Germany and Turkey. Their support for any war is crucial. Your heads up, is if Turkey were to close the Bosphorous Straights to Russian naval vessals. If that happens, expect things to go hot in a matter of days. If people don't get off of their ass and take to the streets over this, there will be a mushroom cloud over all of us before Christmas. These SOBs think they can do "crisis management" and keep things from going nuclear, but they are fools. Once one side sees they are losing a conventional war, they launch tactical nukes on the battlefield. Then they get tit for tat, it would escalate to strategic nukes in short order. A combination of fools and sociopaths are dictating US policy right now. Never thought I would say it, but Jimmy Carter looks like a first rate statesman compared to what we have now.
"How many divisions and air wings does the US have in europe right now?"
ZERO.
That's right. ZERO Divisions in Europe.
But there separrate Brigades there that are almost enough to compose one division.
You can see them here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/US_Army_Europe_OrBat...
The 600 paratroopers are almost certainly one of the battalions of the 173d Airborne BDE.
Here is where all the Army's Divisions are located:
http://www.army.mil/info/organization/unitsandcommands/divisions/
How many wings? Irrelevant. Wings move fast. They fly, even.
But the infrastructure to support them is here:
http://www.eucom.mil/organization/our-forces/us-air-force-europe
I seriously doubt that the US has zero divisions in europe, as they are the leader of NATO. To believe otherwise is the height of stupidity. And air wings are irrelevant? Since when? It is vital to have them already in place, in advance of hostilities. I would say we have several of each in europe. And yes, it is the 173rd going into the Baltics. At least you got that much right.
Putin should continue to negotiate until the US has 250,000 troops in Ukraine.
This all must come to pass. These wars we know are banker/money changer rackets, nothing more, nothing less. We know they hate this that we know. But there will wars and rumors of war. Until it's appointed time, we suffer.
Tell that to the those STILL dying almost seventy years after the bomb drops of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
If you see that "We want you" poster please walk by and ignore it.
Why should American boys and girls put their lives at risk for a neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, which reveres those who fought with Hitler and murdered 30,000,000 Russians, Ukrainians in World War 2?
Kiev Nazi regime members have called for the extermination of Russians and pro-Russian Ukrainians.
Why should American service members be fighting FOR a Nazi regime? Latvia holds SS veteran marches every year, with actual SS members participating. This is what the US is "fighting for" now? Morphing into a Nazi Fascist state.
the only race based hatred in ukraine that is relevant to discuss on the topic of this conflict is ukraine's hatred against those lying dickhead russians. anyone who knows history understands that hatred is completely justified and would sympathize with ukrainians. first occupied and then experienced genocide by the hands of the soviets/russians, the holodomor took the lives of 7 million+ ukrainians. there are still a few living in ukraine that remember 1933 who i'm sure are now experiencing deja vu as once again those bastard russians move in on them again.
get it? russia targeted ukraine, russian's are the racists, ukraine only targets russians in a hope to prevent a second genocide/occupation. if the russians fucked off and stopped the ukraine bullshit there would be no 'neo-nazi regime' in ukraine (not that there even is now).
and as for your remark about what the US is fighting for,.. if the US/world does not intervene and allow the russian's to steamroll ukraine,.. again,.... it would be like allowing a second rwanda to happen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZDYJYqcYK4
Ignorant post...Russians and Kazaks were subjected to same depredations.
From 1917 thru Stalin was never a Russian construct. Russians were never in control.
"You must understand. The leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians.
They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse....
More of my countrymen suffered horrific crimes at their bloodstained hands than any people or nation ever suffered
in the entirety of human history.
It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time.
The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is
in the hands of its perpetrators" -Aleksander Solzhenitsyn-
Volkodav & nje,
You are both right. Many of the leading bolsheviks were not ethnically Russian. But many were. But Russians did make up the bulk of the Commisars that carried out the Holomodor.
That's a lot of hatred even before you get to WWII, where again Ukraine was split, not so much between Nazis and Soviets as between Soviets and anyone who wasn't Soviet. Ukrainian dissatisfaction with Moscow goes all the way back to when the center of the Rus transfered from Kiev to Moscow.
REGARDLESS, AS CAN BE SEEN FROM THIS TIT-FOR-TAT HISTORY, doing with Armies what you cannot do with Propaganda backfires in the end.
Nyet...Leadership was nearly exclusive non White Slavic/Germanic Russian but "Reds"
I disagree your statement about Commisars also...these officers were predominately not Slavic/Germanic Russians
Don't try to slough the evil off on the useful idiots that sold there souls by taking orders and participating...
Millions chose otherwise righteously and perished for it.
One thing the Soviets kept a lot of was records.
I beg to differ with you, friend. Sadly, Stalin did not trust the Ukrainians to perform Holomodor against themselves, and the Georgians were doing it in Moscovky Oblast.
You can call Stalin many evil names, all of them true - but stupid was not one of them.
Who and what were the Bolsheviks? Financed by who?
Woop dey it is
Identify those that you cannot criticize and you identify those that rule you.
Q:"Why should American boys and girls put their lives at risk for a neo-Nazi regime in Kiev, which reveres those who fought with Hitler and murdered 30,000,000 Russians, Ukrainians in World War 2?"
A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHHR6a9ZzwA
I picked a bad day to run out of popcorn.
Estonia is 100 miles from St. Petersburg.
Our "leaders", on both sides of the aisle, WANT WAR. The bankers loan money to both sides of any war. The Military Industrial Complex makes billion$. The depopulation faction is in their glory. Politicians can justify ANYTHING, they do, because it's "to protect us". CORRUPTION is the name of the game in any war and we all fall for it, every time, war after war.
In any war their are shortages. STOCK UP, if you can, on fuel, food, drink, organic seeds, meds and supplies. Buy them when they're on sale. CYA never hurts.
Meanwhile on the home front the Feds are preparing for civil war:
http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-to-purchase-25-million-shotgun...
Most of those shotgun rounds were for slugs...not a pretty picture.
"RIO" shotgun ammunition production facility in Tennessee just had a rather large explosion, resulting in 1 fatality and multiple injuries. It is said that this is why they are buying.
First off Rio shot shells are Euro designed and originate from Spain. They are not pricy but are not used law enforcement or military. It was there North American plant. Fucked up part a worker died. Also it's a popular shell esp for Saiga 12's with stick mags.
* Russia deploys 1 million troops to the borders of POLAND, LITHUANIA, LATVIA,ESTONIA
Doesn't call it an exercise but a "early summer holliday camping out".
lol 600. How many of those are real fighters? 200 at the very most? How much actual armor?
This is a photo-op/press release. Those poor souls would be little more than target practice for the Russians if the shit breaks bad.
That is an Airborne Infantry battalion minus a rear-detachment who stayed home.
It includes 600 paratroopers consisding of a Commander (LTC), an Operations Officer (MAJ), several lieutenants and captains in the staff and an assortment of enlisted personnel. Then there would be three or four companies of about 130 Airborne Infantrymen, a total 6-8 60mm mortars along with the men to man them (about 25) , a platoon of scouts (about 30 scouts), a support platoon (about 25 soldiers).
Main weapons systems would be upto 4 81mm Mortars, 6 to 8 60 mm mortars, at least four sniper rifles, about 25 M249 Squad Automatic Weapons, about 12 M240G machine guns, about 600 M4 carbines, and about 30 M9 9mm pistols,
And that's it.
Estonia is 100 miles from St. Petersburg.
In WWII the Siege of Leningrad for 3 or 4 years (depending on which battles), the Finns and Germans never got closer than 10 miles to 20 miles to center of Leningrad.
Will St. Petersburg be threatened ?
America will be carrying and hand pumping water within 3 months.
Go ahead, Putin, kill some Americans. It might be insanity for them to be there in the first place but you know damn well that it would be a huge mistake to blow little Bobby or Suzy away and then not expect all hell to break loose. Russia would lose in an all-out war against the West and Putin knows it. But the West would be destroyed too. Nobody wants that. Better for Putin to tap dance around Obie and keep making him look like a fool than to totally piss off the American people by sending U.S. military personnel home in body bags. Putin's a smart mofo. He knows that.
"Bobby" turns out to be a merc from Blackwater (oops I mean Xe)(dammit I mean Academi) and nobody State-side gives a fuck.
ha, russia has 40,000 ground troops along the border of ukraine. US responds with only 600 ground troops. and yet if a fight broke out, russia would still get steamrolled.
Yeah, because those 600 US soldiers come with a shitload of hardware.
Steamrolled? Mabey if some of the troops are from Colorado, and brought some weed. This is not "Red Storm Rising" here.
Wonder if the A-10's will still be mothballed. Anyone hear anything about air wing deployment?
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_23/US-aims-to-prevent-Ukraine-from-becoming-Russia-EU-bridge-Germans-write-to-Putin-8061/
A group of over 300 German intellectuals has wrote an open letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, expressing their support about Russia's policies in Ukraine and warning that the United States was seeking to prevent Ukraine from becoming a bridge linking Russia and Europe, RIA Novosti reports.
The letter makes reference to president Putin's proposal to establish an economic community stretching "from Lisbon to Vladivostok".
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_23/US-aims-to-prevent-Ukraine-from-becoming-Russia-EU-bridge-Germans-write-to-Putin-8061/
Any guesses about who is the big proponent for an "Armed Forces of The European Union"?
Let's think here for a second... Which EU country has a world famous heavy industry that would thristily drink up the resulting armaments orders?
What political obstacles would they see between themselves and their pot-of-gold?
Who is behind the European Pipeline Consortium, along whose current and proposed pipeline routes all the recent revolutions and civil wars have occurred?
What companies make up the Consortium?
Who stands to benefit from more large suppliers of energy to Europe rather than fewer - and mostly Russia?
Is that the US? Or is it someone else? (The answers are all in the public domain and easy to locate on the internet).
Zehr Interressant! Nein?
600 troops is barely a paliative to the Baltic States.
If the administratoin were serious they would announce a new round of REFORGER (REturn of FORces to GERmany - RE-FOR-GER) exercises - the first ones in 25 years - and they would move the prepositioned stocks of Tanks and APCs to Europe (whether floating stocks or to nearly-empty US bases).
The announcement that would tell the Russians that NATO is serious would occur as gigantic shipping orders to move literal mountains of equipment to Europe.
Reconnaissance and Special Forces tell you what courses of action the other side is EXPLORING, but their logistical movements will tell you what they are really doing.
Right now both say that the US is doing little other than a little spy-vs-spy, despite the propaganda in Russia.
But... you can decide for yourself if what I say makes sense.
If what I am saying is true you will NOT SEE BIG CONTRACTS IN SHIPPING.
If what I am saying is FALSE then you WILL SEE BIG CONTRACTS IN SHIPPING.
So...bet with your investment dollars. I think what I laid out is very plausible.
Never in the history of declining empires (or facist police states) has the citizenry been so well armed or so well informed. Spare me "the draft is coming" line and the "martial law, FEMA camp, 2 billion rounds" line. When it comes down to the wire, the 3 percent will rise to the challenge (again) and right the ship.
Evidently Chickentown
by John Cooper Clarke
The bloody cops are bloody keen
To bloody keep it bloody clean
The bloody chief's a bloody swine
Who bloody draws a bloody line
At bloody fun and bloody games
The bloody kids he bloody blames
Are nowhere to be bloody found
Anywhere in chicken town
The bloody scene is bloody sad
The bloody news is bloody bad
The bloody weed is bloody turf
The bloody speed is bloody surf
The bloody folks are bloody daft
Don't make me bloody laugh
It bloody hurts to look around
Everywhere in chicken town
The bloody train is bloody late
You bloody wait you bloody wait
You're bloody lost and bloody found
Stuck in fucking chicken town
The bloody view is bloody vile
For bloody miles and bloody miles
The bloody babies bloody cry
The bloody flowers bloody die
The bloody food is bloody muck
The bloody drains are bloody fucked
The colour scheme is bloody brown
Evidently chicken town
The bloody pubs are bloody dull
The bloody clubs are bloody full
Of bloody girls and bloody guys
With bloody murder in their eyes
A bloody bloke is bloody stabbed
Waiting for a bloody cab
You bloody stay at bloody home
The bloody neighbors bloody moan
Keep the bloody racket down
This is bloody chicken town
The bloody pies are bloody old
The bloody chips are bloody cold
The bloody beer is bloody flat
The bloody flats have bloody rats
The bloody clocks are bloody wrong
The bloody days are bloody long
It bloody gets you bloody down
Evidently chicken town
The bloody train is bloody late
You bloody wait you bloody wait
You're bloody lost and bloody found
Stuck in fucking chicken town
"I tells ya, Mrs. Tweedy, them chickens is organized."
--Mr. Tweedy
Chicken Run
"Med, how are things going with our USA Agent?"
"He is in the White Hut today. Had a fight with Reggie. Says he misses you, Vlad."
"Amazing. When the CPUSA created him, it was during the cold war. I have studied the old documents. So many useful idiots. The old USSR would have exterminated all of them had they still been in power once the USA was overthrown."
"But, Vlad, the network is there. We must use it."
"Yes. We will have our revenge on the Khazar Vampires who killed the Tsar and his Ministers!"
"Anastasia screamed in vain."
"We suffered as a nation under those Bolsheviks. Now we will kill them all."
Interesting take. Question is, who was the first presidential mole? Is this why HillBilly was shipping $50M every week from Kennedy Airport (pre-QE, no less, and right off the printing press) to Moscow? IMO is was Bush/Cheney, but it is only surmise.
Anyway, the Russian people suffered as much under the Tsar as under Bolshevism. Either way, looks like some of that is in our future.
Trip Wire forces...good. Its a step in the right direction.
Russia is heading into a world of hurt. Vlad just might turn out to be their worst leader since Stalin. Unless, of course, he stops the nonsense, turns away from Empire building and, instead, starts using those petrodollars for the good of the Russian people.
Build green-energy projects and infrastructure, Putin. Don't screw this up by invading your neighbors. History will not look kindly on some jack-assed little Princess playing Napoleon in the 21st century.
You seem to be oblivious to who has been invading whom since 2003.
Do not worry.gov
Very interesting article in the Washington Times on how Russia's new infantry battle gear is better than ours...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/20/tactical-advantage-russi...
Not to worry--Obama has fired every senior US commander who actually knows anything, and has gotten us more littoral combat ships--the zillion dollar bondoggle to build a ship that has no firepower and can't survive a real hit in combat.
Sadly for us, Putin does real work.
Agitprop journalism by WT.
Hawks want MOAR military spending, thus this bullshit piece. Oh yeah, and 7N6 is NOT AP.
Fuckin' STUPID article.
Remember, no soldier ever fought or died for his "country" or flag.
They either fight for themselves, mercenaries, or are victims of the war-profiteers, banksters and their pol and crat puppets that sent them there.
Or put another way, I am not in any way better off because the DC US expended 53,000 American lives to kill 1,000,000 Vietnamese. Ditto Iraq and Afghanistan.
“Fuck the flag, at least until it can breathe and bleed.”
Crass smear of the all the soldiers who have ever fought on behalf of the US or any other country.
Whether you personally are better off or not is not a logical basis for determining the motives of those who fought.
By the way, I volunteered to fight in South Vietnam and did.
I didn't have any disrespect for the soldiers who were drafted into the Vietnam war. If you volunteered, fuck you.
Your comment illustrates the very propagandized attitudes that I am trying to get people to think about.
I mean no disrespect, but you are not going to like this: You did not serve your country, the American people, or the flag, an inanimate object that does not breathe or bleed. You did not somehow fight for me or my neighbor's freedoms, as we were born with those. You were used to make some elites, banksters, pols and crats richer and more powerful.
You have my pity and forgiveness for volunteering.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. If shit hits the fan, then I'm hopping the border over to Canada with my chest of gold. I'm not fighting a war for those Jewish oligarchs on Wall street. They tell all the white folks to work hard and pay taxes while they hoard gold under their mattress. The white folks must preserve their heritage. Don't let the Jew decieve you.
While I respect your prospective decision, I would recommend that taking up arms against the oligarchs, regardless of ethnicity, but with special attention to the Zionists, would be a better choice.
Just my two 1913 cents.
Oh take your anti-Semitic bullshit and stick it up your ass. Your kind perpetuate the problem. Jews have no higher percentage of oligarchs, schmucks, putzes or shithead racist stupifucks (like you, apparently) than any other race. Get a fucking life - keep spouting that age-old stupid shit that was originally the propoganda of politicians and bankers (who you profess to hate) - you're doing Wall Street's bidding and they are laughing their asses off at you while you do.
Campaign for a lttle tolerance and equality,and maybe you can find some traction. But you better find God before the... ah, Jew finds you. Your kind are in the crosshairs.
By the way, do you ever read the stupid shit you write? Let's see...the Jew is hiding his money in a mattress while you keep yours in a chest. According to your logic, this means you avoid paying taxes as well as the Jew, preferring your mattress. And whitey needs to preserve his heritage while you jump ship to Canada? No, really. You need to change your meds-right after, let me say it again, you just go and fuck yourself.
And Canada is safer... how?
NAU much?
When I see Biden he wears a Bozo wig
Susan Rice has a big red nose
Obama wears huge shoes
John Kerry wears yellow knickers with red and white striped socks
The entire State Dept entourage arrives in Ukraine piling out of a single '72 Volkswagen Beetle
I haven't touched a magic mushroom in 20 years so I'm either demented or somebody is playing a big joke on me....
The developments — just hours after U.S. Vice President Joe Biden left the Ukrainian capital — raised fears that last week's international agreement on easing Ukraine's crisis was unraveling.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-orders-military-operation-east-23431309
It's twenty-five years since the collapse of the Soviet Union and end of the Cold War. Now with the election and re-election of the Howdy Doody/Alfred E. Newman first Black President he is leading us into a new Cold War facing off against Russia with a military dedicated to such critical Progressive issues such as gays in the military, Black women's hairdos, Muslim outreach, and women in front line infantry combat roles. What's the plan? Are we going to give the Russkies corn rows while we butt hack them?
In twenty-five years why hasn't the West and especially America strengthened commercial and military ties with Russia? Russia should be a member of NATO and have a mutual defence treaty with America. Did you think that Russia wouldn't get up?
Brzezinski writes:
“But it is on the globe’s most important playing field – Eurasia – that a potential rival to America might at some point arise. This focusing on the key players and properly assessing the terrain has to be a point of departure for the formulation of American geostrategy for the long-term management of America’s Eurasian geopolitical interests.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-elite-the-great-game-and-world-war-iii/...
"The control of the US, and of global politics, by the wealthiest families of the planet is exercised in a powerful, profound and clandestine manner. This control began in Europe and has a continuity that can be traced back to the time when the bankers discovered it was more profitable to give loans to governments than to needy individuals.
These banking families and their subservient beneficiaries have come to own most major businesses over the two centuries during which they have secretly and increasingly organised themselves as controllers of governments worldwide and as arbiters of war and peace.
Unless we understand this we will be unable to understand the real reasons for the two world wars and the impending Third World War, a war that is almost certain to begin as a consequence of the US attempt to seize and control Central Asia. The only way out is for the US to back off – something the people of the US and the world want, but the elite does not."
Sorry? Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
Anybody counted how many body bags and trillions this constant support to corrupt regimes has costed past hundred years?
Out with the desert tan camo, in with the woodland camo.
600 troops even if they are great soldiers are just sacrificial lambs without air support, armor, and artillery. They can not be supported logistically. They can not even form a defensible perimeter. In the event of open warfare they would be wiped out in less than 48 hours. Decisions by morons that have never seen combat. Any "show" of force must be overwhelming. Chest puffing and strutting are just foolish.
I am old enough to remember when US troops in Somalia requested armor support for their mission - and were denied by SecDef Les Aspin. American soldiers were needlessly killed as a result of his decision.
Thank God old Les is dead and in Hell now, where he rightly belongs.
600 - against a vast Russian land army? That's eerily reminiscent of the Charge of the Light Brigade, who rode up a valley against 20 Russian divisions (plus artillery) in the Crimea nearly 160 years ago - with predicatable results.
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!
"Charge for the guns!" he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
"Forward, the Light Brigade!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the soldier knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
.....
Alfred, Lord Tennyson
Let's just hope history doesn't rhyme.