This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Russia Warns West "Remove Forces"; Begins Military Exercise On Ukraine Border
UPDATE: Dutch fighter jets were scrambled after Russian bombers approached Dutch airspace; the Russian planes turned away
With both sides appearing to have entirely un-de-escalated and the truce deal now a thing of the past (besides a few hundred Dow points), the Russians are speaking up today - and are not happy:
- RUSSIA IS EXTREMELY SURPRISED BY KIEV AND WASHINGTON'S "DISTORTED" INTERPRETATION OF AGREEMENT REACHED IN GENEVA LAST WEEK ON DE-ESCALATION OF UKRAINE CRISIS - FOREIGN MINISTRY
- RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS KIEV AND WASHINGTON "CLOSING THEIR EYES" TO PROVOCATIVE ACTIONS BY NATIONALIST FORCES IN UKRAINE
And, on the heels of Turchynov's official restart of the so-called anti-terrorist operation, Russia is calling on Ukraine to pull back military from Ukraine's southeast... and rattles its sabre by undertaking a military exercise on the border.
Bloomberg reports,
Russia is surprised by distorted interpretation of Geneva accord from govts of Ukraine, U.S., RIA Novosti reports, citing Russia’s Foreign Ministry.
*RUSSIA CALLS ON UKRAINE TO REMOVE MILITARY FROM SOUTHEAST: RIA
Russia says Ukraine, U.S. closing eyes to provocations by right-wing extremists: RIA
Russia still believes partners are serious about resolving crisis in Ukraine: RIA
and in addition
- RUSSIAN MILITARY CONDUCTS MILITARY EXERCISE IN ROSTOV REGION, BORDERING UKRAINE - DEFENCE MINISTRY OFFICIAL
All of this sets the scene for an important set of meetings next week...
Russia ready to host EU, Ukraine energy officials in Moscow or consider other cities for talks, Russian Energy Ministry spokeswoman Olga Golant says by phone.
Golant confirms EU Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger invited Russia to gas talks
Slovakia planning talks on use of gas pipeline in reverse to supply Ukraine on Apr. 28 in Bratislava, Eustream pipeline operator spokesman Vahram Chuguryan says by phone
So to sum it all up:
- The truce deal is dead
- Russia blames Ukraine/West for breaking deal and misunderstanding it
- Ukraine/West blame Russia for not unilaterally pulling back its forces
- Russia is warning Ukraine to pullback military from Russia-held southeast Ukraine ("or there will be retaliation")
- Russia is rattling its sabre by military exercises on the Ukraine border (after US sends another warship into the Black Sea)
- Against all this tension, gas pipeline talks are set to begin shortly.
Still buying the fucking dip on the back of Ukraine 'calming down'?
»
- 36461 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
Picture Russia putting troops in Mexico. Same.
Go ahead maybe they can do something about the cartels...
How did the U.S. get involved in WW I?
Sinking of the RMS Lusitania (British ship) killed 128 Americans.
US Casualties of WW I -
Killed 116,516
Wounded 204,002
Was it worth it?
NO, but the Bankers made a killing.
And the bankers are....
Fundamentally sound as always.
Estimated number of rifle and artillery cartridges discovered by explorers in the cargo hold of the Lusitania "passenger liner" wreck: 4 million.
At least the statements being made are politically correct. It'd be wrong to have anyone offended...
At least the statements being made are politically correct. It'd be wrong to have anyone offended...
Honestly, what is the world coming to. I'm not necessarily scared at what the Russians are going to do, frankly, like him or not, Putin is very competent. Its my own f*&king country that I'm most scared of and their friends in "the west". Why? Because they're incompetent bozos and we're not dealing with easy targets such as a mountain man Jihadist armed with a 100 year old bolt action English rifle (oh and who ended up winning in that fight? Just saying). Um no. This next FACT should scare everyone one of you! There are ICBMs here, for the love of God, people! ICBMs and millions of megatons. What if Russia decided to intervene in, say, the secession of Texas? Do you think we'd end up using nukes? K, this this same thing with the Ukraine! I don't care about "appeasement" or evoking nevile Chamberlin...we (the west) voted barry in twice, so, we made our own bed and have ourselves to blame. When Chamberlin was at large the world didn't have thousands of thermonuclear weapons on a hair trigger. Mind you that the Topol M is the latest generation of Russian ICBM with stealth capability, so, nice try with the whole missile shield. I'm sorry, the risks are way too high here...what, be a good necon and look all tough and then what? Nuclear winter for the next couple hundred years? Yeah, the west and america needs to BACK OFF. Hell, presuming there are people left (which is a big presumption) to record history, even then, they'll blame the stupid americans mostly due to rash incompetence. Hey, at least we'll make Satan laugh.
Towgunner - Speaking of Satan it is time to relisten to an old classic, War Pigs by Black Sabbath. Sums it all up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0&feature=kp
Towgunner - Speaking of Satan it is time to relisten to an old classic, War Pigs by Black Sabbath. Sums it all up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0&feature=kp
I started first grade during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I can still picture my teacher in the front of the room yelling "flash" to simulate a nuclear explosion as we cowered under our desks, making sure to clasp our hands behind our necks as instructed to ensure maximum protection from incineration. We were convinced that the Russians would eventually vaporize us with nukes. That was 52 years ago. Not saying it won't still happen, but I'm not going to lose any more sleep over it.
Every US President has to have his body count so he can show how tough he is...as long as that body count does not include Americans.
http://news.sky.com/story/1247985/raf-jet-chases-russian-planes-away-fro...
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/25320772/dutch-scramble-jets-after-russian-...
Seems the Russians are testing response times. I may just hold a family drill to test response times on getting the bugout shite together to make the run for the family farm.
It's party time folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Time to drone some Ruskies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some junior-level guy is gonna screw up just a little, and then this goes all Tom Clancy on us.
Precisely as ordered by Obama's overseers.
Putin is not getting it,...the neo-con West wants to destroy Russia, at minimum balkanize it.
He gets it all right.
.
Direct Line with Vladimir Putin (April 17, 2014)
"VLADIMIR PUTIN: The intention to split Russia and Ukraine, to separate what is essentially a single nation in many ways, has been an issue of international politics for centuries. If you recall the statements uttered by the White movement leaders, you’ll see that regardless their political disagreements with the Bolsheviks, they never had even the slightest thought about a possible division between Ukraine and Russia, as they always perceived them as part of a common, united space and a single nation. And they were absolutely right.
But today we’re are living in separate countries. And, unfortunately, this policy of division, of pulling apart and weakening both parts of a single nation continues. There are enough forces in the world that are afraid of our strength, “our hugeness,” as one of our sovereigns said. So, they seek to divide us into parts, this is a well-known fact. Look at what they did with Yugoslavia: they cut it into small pieces and are now manipulating everything that can be manipulated there, which is almost anything. Apparently, someone would like to do the same with us, and if you look at what’s happening, you’ll be able to answer your own question about who is doing what."
look at the stock market levitation. under normal times, the indexes would have gone nutz. But hey, its the new normal normal. BULLSHIT!
This high-testosterone chest-thumping has GOT to stop...What is the POINT of putting troops so close? Are we going to start a ground war with Russia? Of course not, so WHY bother putting your troops there then?
There may be no intention of starting a war, but by getting all up in Putin's face like that, you DO increase the odds that something unplanned will happen that could spiral quickly out of control. Considering the risks, it is nothing more than misplaced machismo that could lead to a decision like that. SOMEBODY'S got a throbbing boner over this, and it must be doused with ice-water, and fast!
It's just like the Bundy thing...they go in all hard and aggressive, then end up having to retreat because they bit off more than they can safely chew. It would have been better, more EFFECTIVE, to simply tighten the economic screws and wait quietly for the results then to do the military equivalent of a stressed-out mother in a car yelling to her kids in the rear seat, "Don't make me come back there!"...as the kids laugh at the very idea and continue doing what they are doing...
Bemused Observer
US citizens to cia: "We want to discuss your job discription. "
Fascists have small weewees and never to be trusted
Why does ZH love Putin (not putang) so much? He is a kleptocrat living in another country. Does that make him better than our kleptocrats?
Putin is basically trying to rebuild the USSR. Will ZH be satisfied when the Eastern Euopean plebs get sucked into a crony capitalist state that is even worse than ours?
Russias white guy is beating americas black guy at political chess. On the other hand Obama could beat Putin at a basketball one on one game.... maby.