Sergey Lavrov: "If Russian Troops Or People Attacked, We'll Retaliate"

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It took Joe Biden just a day after his arrival in Kiev to kill and bury the last remaining hope that last week's latest attempt at diplomatic de-escalation in Geneva would actually be anything more than a joke. A few hours ago, in a statement posted on the parliament website, Ukraine acting President Oleksandr Turchynov said that pro-Russian separatists have "crossed line" adding that East Ukraine is currently controlled by “terrorists” supported by Russia.

In other words, the same old song and dance.

Which is why this time Russia made it quite clear to issue a warning that the next time there is a provocation against its soldiers or, more importantly, against its people, those in East Ukraine to be specific, it would retaliate. Once again, Obama's "costs" message is lost on Putin...

RT reported moments ago that "Russia will retaliate if it is attacked and the interests of the Russian people are threatened" citing Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov. He alleged the US has a hand in the current stand-off in Ukraine between the coup-appointed government and anti-Maidan activists.

In an interview with RT’s Sophie Shevardnadze, Sergey Lavrov said that Washington “is running the show” in the Ukrainian crisis.

 

“There is no reason not to believe that the Americans are running the show,” said Lavrov, referencing US Vice President Joe Biden’s visit to Kiev and its coincidence with the renewed counter-terror operation on activists in East Ukraine.

 

“It’s quite telling they chose the moment of the Vice President of the US’ visit to announce the resumption of this operation because the launching of this operation happened immediately after John Brennon’s [head of the CIA] visit to Kiev,” said Lavrov.

It remains to be seen if this latest re-escalation of the Ukraine crisis, which also has killed any hope of a diplomatic resolution, will be just as bullish or more bullish than last Thursday's response which send stocks ramping higher when the Geneva "de-escalation" agreement was announced.

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Wed, 04/23/2014 - 04:56 | 4685713 Cattender
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why send a Clown to do a Man's job?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:00 | 4685715 deus x machina
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that's all we have...CLOWNS!

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:20 | 4685725 Occident Mortal
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Cue MiG's heading over the Arctic to probe North American air defense and raise the stress levels in Washington.

 

Look how far south we can get before you can see us... etc, etc.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:21 | 4685735 Haus-Targaryen
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Will someone start shooting already?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:24 | 4685737 Tengri Temujin
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They already have since Maidan, the CIA funded snipers, where have you been.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:30 | 4685741 Haus-Targaryen
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No, I am not talking about people firing AK-74s at one another, but REAL shooting! 

Spatnaz vs. Maiden Protestors who think they are BAMFs because they went through 1 week of training, wear lots of CAMO, and carry around weapons older than most of us. 

This kind of shooting. 

That or Russia dropping in a S-400 to take care of the lone Su-27 that keeps buzzing the east of Ukraine/future Russia.  I think it must be their only one that works.  

American News Media

::BREAKING NEWS::

Russia destroys entirety of Ukranian Air Force 

Rest of World

::BREAKING NEWS:: 

Eastern-Seperatists shoot down Su-27

I think both headlines would be accurate.  

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:42 | 4685747 new game
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ok already, you want some bloodshed-we get it...

patience, merica on it-assclowns work a little slow-don't ya know?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 05:42 | 4685748 Haus-Targaryen
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Perhaps, I under-estimated Ukraine's Air Force. 

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140404/189043839/Ukraine-Puts-Mothballed-Mig-29-Fighter-Jets-Back-in-Service.html

Of their 512 aircraft, approx. 12 are capable of combat. 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:24 | 4685806 Arius
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Now, I understand why the former Anchor (one of the best it seems) of RT quit on the air live ... as she said it is a network funded by the Russian Government... the working environment as she rightly said was unbearable for any patriotic american!

 

yes, Lavrov we get it - this is your LAST Ultimatum, then what ... attack Alaska because Fania Ludmirova wants it ...

Get over it, you are no longer a superpower!!!  you lost, you were defeated,fair and square ....

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:05 | 4685885 GetZeeGold
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Mostly propaganda most of the time......check out Yahoo news.

 

According to them....Obamacare is great stuff and the American people are really starting to embrace it.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:27 | 4685899 Latina Lover
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In Russia, you do not cross red line, Red line crosses you <g> (groan)

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:53 | 4685972 SoberOne
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This one never gets old.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:38 | 4686079 knukles
Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:59 | 4685990 Evil Peanut
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MSM blackout on this news  ->>

Indicted Businessman Names Harry Reid as Alleged Recipient of Massive Bribe -- A Utah businessman is rocking both state and national politics after claiming Utah Attorney General John Swallow helped him broker a deal with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to make a federal investigation into his company quietly disappear.

http://gopthedailydose.com/2014/04/17/indicted-businessman-names-harry-r...

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:19 | 4686021 GetZeeGold
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Proves the major shift from MSM to alternative news....most everyone I know is hip to it and watching it like a hawk.

 

I don't think Harry is gonna come out looking very good on this one.

 

Top that with a major flash point of western states looking to repatriate Federal land back to the states...that is growing by the hour.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:30 | 4686053 CuttingEdge
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Clowns?

These guys make clowns look positively capable, and referring to them as such is an insult to Bobo and all his brethren.

Fuckwits is a far more appropriate handle for the collective.

Although Obozo himself would probably make a mediocre clown at a 1 year old's birthday party - I cannot imagine him competent for much else.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:45 | 4686093 knukles
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Alternative News?
Lordie!
Listen to some talk radio.  I ususally avoid it but got the bug the other day on a long drive.
The Conservatives are beating the shit out of the Establishment Republicans as mere Democrats in shit's clothing while the Liberals are panicking and still talking nionsense.  No tingles for you! 

Yeah.  3 years ago, mention alternative media and you were a conspiracy theorist...
Y'all know the drill 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:45 | 4686094 CheapBastard
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This mean War!

 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:02 | 4686112 GetZeeGold
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You could say we technically are at war.

 

I think we're in the heavy propaganda part of it.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:23 | 4686198 Patriot Eke
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We know Biden.  Why send him?  He was used as a delivery boy perhaps?  I don't see him being useful in any other way.  You know he didn't go there to convince someone.  What did he deliver then?

In the past I've posted against the idea of the coup being entirely from CIA/USA sources.  We've had the director himself and now a Vice President visit Ukraine however.  I'm publicly acknowledging my error.  Now that I have however, the hair on the back of my neck is standing up.  They really want war, and it seems they are going to get it.

People keep rightly suggesting that Obama is no match for Putin, but what if the goal is our destruction?  What if we are not meant to win the next war?  When you consider our current situation from that perspective, it really gets the blood flowing (in a bad way).

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:42 | 4686240 CuttingEdge
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Possibly known a century hence as the Petrodollar War - more bang for your buck since 1973...until circa 2016 or slightly earlier.

 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:45 | 4686228 HardAssets
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The real, decisive war is at home.

Its in the minds of the home population, that is - each individual human being.

 

As long as people use such terms as 'we' and 'us' regarding overseas wars started by bankster owned lawyer/liars and carried out by minion low paid unthinking mercenaries, they will continue. As long as the individuals at home allow their created resources to be used in the psychopath wars, they will continue.

They are starting a war.

We have nothing to do with it, but allow it. (The results of a football game bring more people out on the streets than events which really matter.)  The people have been conditioned to cheer 'their team' since the time they were children (its also natural human tribalism). The people in most countries have much more in common with each other than they do with the psychopath manipulative puppet master 'leaders'.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:49 | 4686264 Ferrari
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Really well said. Thank you for that. 

 

As a side note, I find it incredibly ironic that some of the most hard-nosed libertarians on the planet (here) are also the biggest peaceniks, while the NPR, NYT set still bray for more senseless, scurrilous war. It's logical, but still ironic. 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 11:02 | 4686529 mccvilb
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And bray they will because it's not their asses on the line. Bray - what a great word!

 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:36 | 4687161 Golden Rule
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Good points and well said!

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:14 | 4685900 Rakshas
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...... yeah those crazy Russians they really don't seem to get it ...... debt to GDP ratio is in the toilet..... Obese population glued to couch watching mindless TV all day long ..... rampant corruption ........ what a bunch of maroons....

 

 

 

 

 

/s

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:14 | 4685901 Latina Lover
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Too bad America can't get over being an empire.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:43 | 4685950 Raging Debate
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Arius - Neither are we. Ours connot be sustaine for the same reason as the Soviet Union. With this kind of disrespect, it is no surprise the world will be glowing green soon and you remind to add to my hedges this weekend.

Solutions through innovation and trade make a better world. These cease because of the same old problem of power corrupting and attempting conquest to rob resources rather then take a period of detente, fix what is wrong internally and carry on with posterity.

History shows it is only a matter of time before your kind of thinkers are punched in the nose. Like king of the hill game. Sadly, the collective of each nation suffers for it's leadership with such attitudes.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:56 | 4685981 The_Prisoner
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Actually, you're wrong. But I'm sure you know that, keyboard tough guy.

Against Russian in Afghanistan fought the entire world. And they were only dragged into the conflict by the revachist Zbig (he admitted it himself, so be a man and do not argue the opposite). The exact opposite was the case with your coallition of the willing who went there in 2001 and got your asses handled to you. I know, I know, you will argue that you lost because you showed "restraint" and that the rules of engagment prevented you from winning, like it was a football match. But the depleted Uranium argues otherwise.

Putin has addressed the Alaska question in his 4-HOUR-LONG Q&A with callers and press. Your butt-boy Obama cannot keep a coherent speech longer han 20 minutes, with or without teleprompter. So you wanna a pissng contest, start there.

I was going to answer to your other post further down the thread, but I can't really be bothered, so here it is:

Rosa Luxemburg's argument with Lenin was that the Marxist revolution should have been started in the most advanced Industrial nation (at the time, Germany) and the world would follow. Lening fough that assertion so the revolution took place in Russia and thus failed. So the marxists are, this time, conducting the revolution acording to Luxemburg's ideas, in the most advanced industrial nation, the USA. So enjoy the Gulag (prison system), the famines (processed foods/diabetes) and the police state (no example needed, not even for a disonest fuck like you).

 

 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:56 | 4686124 richsob
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The Russian honks on this website love to crow about how a few hundred U.S. soldiers are no match for the 40,000 Russians sitting on the Ukraine border.  Yea, so what about the other 67,000 U.S. soldiers in Europe?  Or the large numbers of REFORGER troops that can be sent to Germany on short notice?  And NATO countries have no troops left if they suddenly decide Ivan needs to get some push-back?  I almost look forward to the day Putin over plays his hand.  Almost.......because I don't want a war.  I did two tours of combat duty in the U.S. Marines.  War is hell.  It sucks.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 10:54 | 4686492 known unknown
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Logistically NATO does not have a chance. I am not a Russian honk or what ever you call people who support Russia on this forum. NATO's only option is tactical nukes. The reason I support Russia is I have a sense of right and wrong not some idealogical drivel like being free or they envy our way of life. The US are a bunch of amateurs especially the way they have been discovered at every covert operation. Look a Brennan CIA punk using a fake name visitIng Kiev or Nuland who could not use an encrypted secure line? War is hell but I suspect Russian troops are ready to defend their way of life not questioning why they are there unlike the American troops who die needlessly in foreign countries legitimately asking themselves why.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:28 | 4686871 HardAssets
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Well personally, I'm not  pro-Putin or pro-Russia.

I'm against the launching of a new Cold War that could lead to a thermo-nuclear hot war WW3.

I'm against losing what little liberties are left under the excuse of 'war conditions'.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:29 | 4686872 richsob
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Thank you for a respectful reply.  It's nice to hear from someone who has an honest disagreement and is willing to discuss the issues.  NATO is not a paper tiger if the Brits and Germans decided to go all in.  France is not much of a help but the key issue with NATO is geography.  In a hot war Russia would have a hell of a lot of ground to defend and they would quickly be stretched too thin to fight a war on a broad front.  The Russian military is a shadow of what it used to be.  That is a fact.  You can ignore the stories of the "advanced equipment" Russia has put on show next to Ukraine.  They are so short of good equipment their regular forces' training is a joke.  Yes, the Russians could tear a hell of a hole in Europe if they decided to make The Big Push but it would fail.  The U.S. and its allies would defeat the Russian army.....but at the cost of destroying their own economies too.  This isn't a pissing match in an alley.  It's dead serious stuff.  Nobody should be pulling for a hot war.  I truly believe Putin will put a Klingon mind fuck on Obama as long as he can.  If the Pentagon finally makes a bold move, Putin will adroitly decompress the situation, back off militarily, and then rely on beating Obama at the negotiating table.....which wouldn't be hard to do knowing how weak Obama is.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 12:45 | 4686935 HardAssets
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@richsob - - - like you, I'm against a war breaking out. And I'm from a military family & also served.

The problem with military types (I know from experience) is we've often thought along very narrow & limited lines. That is, looking at 'national defense' in strictly military terms when the trillions spent on 'defense' budgets and the possibility for use of troops against the people at home may very well be the greatest threat to the republic. And of course, like most Americans, most in the military know nothing about the nature of money or the banking powers which actually run the country. Those very interests determine who becomes president - - - the CIC which those in the military obey.  Often it seems that the gungho 'us versus them' mentality takes charge instead of real thinking.

You may find this article interesting:

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/an-officer-corps-that-ca...

I have no idea what the result of a US vs Russia war would be and hope we don't find out. It could go nuke.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 13:13 | 4687046 richsob
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I agree with you.  Military minds tend to overlook some of the important financial and society issues that have as much importance in foreign relations as throw weight.  And I agree 101% that the biggest cheerleader we have right now for war, war, war is the military industrial complex.  It never ceases to amaze me how every person who wears a uniform is suddenly considered to be a "hero" and every penny spent on the military is not seen as a penny we might have better used on roads, bridges, reducing taxes, etc.  I'm all for having the Most Bad Ass Military On The Planet but what we have is a huge wasteful war machine that is being used by the politicians as a (1) jobs program to employ people when the economy sucks (2) a way to raise money for their campaigns and (3) a way to take people's eyes off the real problems in this country: illegal immigration, out of control spending and moral failure.  China, Russia, the U.S......they all pound the war drums to keep the people sedated. 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 14:39 | 4687413 HardAssets
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For a good laugh (everybody could use a laugh now & then) check out this vets video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KZUfH-wyxYo

 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:51 | 4685871 Farqued Up
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Yeah, a real shame that an uneducated community organizer with forged birth certificates and sealed university records can be so gullible. Howdy Doody had better handlers than that mental midget. Murricans? See my handle, specially formulated for the average government union school dumbed down bottom feeders.

Jeff Dunham for president, the best puppeteer of all!!

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:01 | 4685998 Uncle Remus
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SILENCE!!

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:44 | 4686092 GetZeeGold
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The Arabs paid for Obama's college education....OK....now I'll be quiet.

 

Oh....and the Keystone pipeline has been put on indefinite hold.

 

Pretty sure I'm done now.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:21 | 4686039 August
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No insulin for you!

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:53 | 4685961 Calmyourself
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No, only banker ass clowns want war, enrich their scum sucking masters and distract from their fiat implosion.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:21 | 4685802 Ghordius
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you still have not explained why you are so anxious to see rivers of blood flowing. meanwhile, note how restrained the local factions are, in Ukraine. up to now, compared to what they could do, and hopefully in future, too

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 06:44 | 4685857 nmewn
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Who is Igor Ivanovich Strelkov?

(Dammit nmewn, stop it!!!...you're never going to win this ugliest duckling contest...lol)

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:01 | 4685995 Calmyourself
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Ugly little bastard isn't he.  There was never a doubt,  Russia would miss its chance to stretch out to its historical borders with the Kenyan mental midget in charge over here. 

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 08:57 | 4686131 chapaev's ghost
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Wasn't he the revolutionary husand to Lara who had his own train and met a bad end?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 10:41 | 4686441 Dickweed Wang
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No, I am not talking about people firing AK-74s at one another, but REAL shooting!

This isn't an Xbox game . . . . what a dickhead.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:15 | 4686178 sleigher
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Mark him down but as anyone can see, the damn bankster assholes are pushing us to war.  No one wants war.  Well no one except those who stand to profit.  It is inevitable that this grow to a war.  It is going to whether anyone likes it or not.  It isn't up to us and they don't give a shit what we think.  So yeah, start shooting and let's get it over with.  Maybe it will be the spark that wakes everyone up and we can go shoot the banksters finally.  Or these people...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuzkLbHb1Q8

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 07:52 | 4685966 Fiat Envy
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When is America going to realize that some jobs are too important to select the affirmative action candidate?

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:21 | 4686194 Joe A
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The clown in chief couldn't come. He was busy drawing red lines.

Wed, 04/23/2014 - 09:42 | 4686241 j0nx
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As has been said numerous times before, Vlad knows full well that Barry and Co. are wayyy too busy here at home trampling the rights of the American people to be bothered with following up any lame ass threats to Russia.

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