Desperate Ukraine Pleads: "Red Line Has Already Been Crossed"

Tyler Durden's picture

Ukraine's Deputy Foreign Minister Danylo Lubkivsky exhorted to US State department officials, "let's not look for further time frames," demanding "all necessary pressure" be applied now. The red line has already been crossed and, as Bloomberg reports,  Lubkivsky says he hopes U.S., EU don’t prioritize political concerns over moral ones and that the West will help with economic, diplomatic and military assistance.


As Bloomberg reports,

“Let’s not look for further time frames” and instead exert “all necessary pressure,” Ukrainian deputy foreign minister Danylo Lubkivsky tells State Dept officials, journalists, researchers in Washington.


Says he hopes U.S., EU don’t prioritize political concerns over moral ones and that the West will help with economic, diplomatic and military assistance


We will defend ourselves, but we do believe that Ukraine will not be alone at this time facing such an enormous” threat, Lubkivsky says


Says Crimea will return to Ukraine; “majority of international community clearly supported Ukraine in terms of Crimea and our territorial independence”

Translation: You're all talk, US!! Please give us some real support or Russia will roll all over us...

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Dr. Engali's picture

I'm pretty sure the red line was crossed when you overthrew the legitimate government. 

Haus-Targaryen's picture

It will be interesting to watch as Russia rolls into Ukraine, and the US and EU don't do a thing. 

I can imagine there would be interesting conversations occuring in Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania later that day. 

Smegley Wanxalot's picture

How dare you say we will not do a thing! 

There are sternly worded statements that will be written ... and we will call Putin a petulent child at the back of the class!!!

knukles's picture

So the illigitimate government which did a putsch with the help of CIA and MI6 now pleads for the Nation State owners of CIA and MI6 to support them when challenged by their own citizenry as well as a foriegn power.
How many times have we heard this...
Bay of Pigs, Egypt (et al color revolutions) Vietnam, etc... The very people supported are deserted.
(Regrdless of whose side one roots for, they get installed and deserted)

Deserted takes upon a whole new meaning.
Guess there's always room for Jello 

Save_America1st's picture

obombya is too busy golfing (instead of attending his aunt's funeral) and eating radioactive sushi in Tokyo (hopefully LOTS AND FUCKING LOTS OF RADIOACTIVE SUSHI!!!), to bother with Ukraine issues.  He's already recieved his orders from the banksters, and he's already had long sweet talks with Pooty-poot on the phone about how they're going to rebuild the cold-war and split up the world and turn America and everything else over to the NWO....ooops...we weren't supposed to realize that. 

Sssssshhhh...don't say I said anything, but....well...ya's all going according to the puppet master's plans.  

You've all seen WWF/WWE wrestling before, right?  Yeah...same concept.  They're all buddies behind the curtains and the fake fighting is all by design.  

And they sure as hell don't care who they kill or who gets killed and/or maimed while fighting their pre-planned, scripted, bankster wars, either. 

Prideful Sinner's picture

The conflict in Ukraine is real, so is the conflict between Japan and China. Russia wants the USSR back and the former USSR states don't really want to be a part of the new USSR. They're looking to America to save them and I think they'll find out America has been all talk for quite a few years. The next step will be China taking the South China Sea islands while we do nothing but bluster and yell about sanctions about that too. The US does not want a war the US may lose so the US has no interest in a war with combined power of China and Russia.

strannick's picture

By Ukraine's "desperate pleading", you meant Ukraine's "cynical manuevering", right?

Vampyroteuthis infernalis's picture

Once Russia takes the more productive eastern Ukraine region, the Euromaiden gov't is going to be in deep sh*t. Western Ukraine has little to offer economically to anyone.

Element's picture

Ukraine was always going to find out that when they needed NATO support that NATO would not be returning their calls, but maybe the IMF still would.

So the result will be proxy war against Russia, where front-line non-NATO states are 'given' the national opportunity to recover and secure their own territory. So this will spread.

It was also clear all along the Kiev Euromaidan were hopeless window dressing and never going to last. The country is not behind them. They're innately divisive, so the situation can never be resolved more directly, with them still claiming to be a 'govt' in Kiev.

But the Ukrainians will fall behind someone to combat the Russian separatists and that someone is most likely be a military coup in Kiev to remove that 'govt', completely, and impose a national emergency to mobilize a real effort to eliminate and expel or else wipe-out all Russian-backed separatists.

strannick's picture

Seems these separtists are the majority in eastern Ukraine..

UselessEater's picture

how will Germany play this?

Element's picture

Well there are a lot of Greeks in Melbourne and a lot of Pakis and Indians in Sydney, but if they ever thought of carving off a part of Australia for their former 'homeland' you could expect quite a bit of official and unofficial ethnic cleansing, if negotiations would not be forthrightly and immediately entered into, and their exact status agreed to be Australian. They would be in deep shit if they claimed to be nationals of some other country and were inciting a foreign power to attack on their behalf, and simultaneously were facetiously claiming to be 'innocent' and oppressed.

toady's picture

Yeah, those Ukrainians are fucked. If they don't understand there's always another red line to cross right behind the last one by now, they never will.

Poundsand's picture

They were dumb enough to actually believe the US government? 


toady's picture

I personally believe the gunmen in Kiev are simply looting as much as they can while their G5's are on standby. They better time that run to the airport just right!

It's the rest of the Ukrainians that will be caught on the ground that'll be fucked.

astoriajoe's picture

so really its more like a really wide red carpet.

mtndds's picture

Nothing will happen until the weekend.  It seems everything happens on the weekend while the fucking markets are closed!

ASACJon's picture

But that's just it, Haus: the NWO has cornered itself.

This malevolent creature is almost compelled to engage in hostilities, at least to the degree that the general populations of the Eastern NATO states feel confirmed in their nuzzling up to the satanic kleptocratic empire.

But the US cannot commit actual divisions to fighting Russian forces in Donetsk, Lugansk, etc.  There simply are not the functioning Army units, save for a handful of Ranges, etc.  A male-female techno garbage economic consript force is can't standup to a nation where manhood still exists and is fighting an existential threat.

Unless, the powers that be go full, balls deep, super weapon.  But that necessarily leads to WOPR style Global Thermonuclear War.

They are stuck and they know it.  It's anyone's guess what is the next move.

Putin is being restrained because he knows those in the West are so out of control evil and irrational, it's hard to know what the next move of the NWO will be.

I strongly suggest to all to store up all temporal -and spiritual- goods in each of your arks.


Monty Burns's picture

I can imagine there would be interesting conversations occuring in Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania later that day. 


Solution?  Keep Nuland and all other Neocons the hell out of the place.

Arius's picture

here is another sanction idea: putin's son cannot apply for scolarship in the US,

and if he really pushes the buttons then the next step will be to not allow him to study in any american universtory ...

now, go ahead if you must

Obchelli's picture

Putin doesn't have a son...

So honebadger doesn't care. And his daughters already graduated...

sushi's picture

Thugs, Oligarchs and, common crooks seeking the protection of the USSA.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The U.S. has become a beacon of hope and support for despots, criminals, thugs, aliens, and perverts everywhere.


old naughty's picture

" ...that the West will help with economic, diplomatic and military assistance."

What, no financial assistance?

What's the Secretary and Under-secretary throwing them fiat over for?

toady's picture

Yeah, but the Ukrainians want to keep that on the DL, so they can make it magically disappear into their offshore accounts.

intric8's picture

I have almost no pride left in being american. I dont even know what it represents anymore.

BlackChicken's picture

"Lubkivsky says he hopes U.S., EU don’t prioritize political concerns over moral ones and that the West will help with economic, diplomatic and military assistance."

We can't help our way out of a wet paper bag without starting a world war.

RaceToTheBottom's picture

What is a legitimate government?  Is that like a Free Market?

Bastiat's picture

The more local and limited, the more likely to be morally legitimate.

NotApplicable's picture

Which is why I'm a firm proponent of one government per person.

Dr. Engali's picture

Like it or not the majority of people are too freaking stupid to govern their own lives and they feel the need to have a government to make decisions for them. Yanukovich and his democratically elected cronies were uspurped by a CIA backed coup. Regardless of what we think of government, they are the elected "leaders".

fonzannoon's picture

I'm not sure what actual documentation there is of this, but it will quickly become the story of the day, until they drop a rumor that he likes little boys...


“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Dr. Engali's picture

Now that is interesting. I'm sure we will see this crap all over CNN and FAUX news before the day is out. There is a lot about living in 1984 that sucks. 

CrashisOptimistic's picture

Oh, there's more than that.

When the DNC decided they could not counter the Obamacare accusation campaign by all the GOP Senate candidates about to take the Senate, the choice was made to declare Obamacare a rousing success -- because there was no other possible strategy.

There will now be an avalanche of articles praising it and pointing out how anyone supporting it was a genius.

slightlyskeptical's picture

You are so correct I need to get up and go puke.

MrPalladium's picture

Try as I might, i fail to see the racism in Bundy's comment.

Is it now racism to comment truthfully about the condition of Blacks on welfare and the degredation that has been imposed upon them by the welfare state?

pods's picture

Well, for one thing he probably could have used a better example than cotton picking.  Doctors?  Lawyers?

That shows an inherent belief that some people are only good enough to do some things. Which IS racist when you are speaking about a particular race.

Some people are not eloquent, and that is fine. It takes all kinds of people doing all kinds of things to make the world go round.  Maybe he misspoke?

But come on, if you are in the middle of a fight that ostensibly is about freedom you sure as shit cannot start debating whether or not someone was better off being the property of another against their will.

Jesus Harold Christ.


fockewulf190's picture

I´m sure Al Sharpton read that article, and is now standing in line waiting to get his balls scanned at JFK, destination Las Vegas.

sushi's picture

Well at least he didn't spout off about read lines or some such. Nor did he suggest nuking everyone of a certain race in Eastern Ukraine, or threaten to prevent a distinct social group from using their customary language. And when he didn't do these things he didn't have the USSA Secretary of State backing him up on these pronouncements either.

Stones. Meet glass house. 

Monty Burns's picture

Can something be racist if it's true?  Just asking.  If you answer in the affirmative then you logically favor suppressing the truth. If it's negative then you need to start doing a lot of fact checking. (PS I'm not suggesting that what Bundy said was true, by the way)

NotApplicable's picture

They are too stupid to govern their own lives only because they've never had the opportunity.

Stupid should hurt.

Get hurt enough and one either starts to wise up, or suffer the consequences.

Thing is, thanks to Uncle Sugar, consequences are far far removed from daily activities, like say, trying to feed yourself.

LawsofPhysics's picture

Yes Doc, you are correct, moreover, highly indebted nations/corporation/people should really be concerned with other potential problems in their own backyard...

Tick tock motherfuckers...

813kml's picture

Don't despair, Ukraine.  Barry will ride in on his white horse (Kerry) to save the day.

Bay Area Guy's picture

I was thinking that when you draw a red line, it's easy to cross it when you, yourself are the one that crosses it.

Tracerfan's picture

Ukraine will be alone if it tries to wipe out its non-Nazi citizens.

Russia will take on and destroy whoever fights for the Nazi regime.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

If the violent elements of the Maidan protesters had been branded as "Domestic Terrorists" in the first place, we never would have had the Coup/Putsch, nor the mess we have now.

Unfortunately, "being kind" has its mortal consequences also.  The old President was "legitimate", yes.  Being corrupt was bad enough, but his real problem was that he lacked clarity, a plan and the will to act.  IOW, he was a puppet, just like the current guys.

And, as a populace, the Ukes are too damn passive and subservient to authority figures (clerical and secular), to really force constructive change.  In the moment where they tried (or a small part of the Kiev population tried), it was the worst and the most active elements that took over.  With outside helps, admittedly, but the rest did not do enough. 

Remember the old proberb:  "A people (always!) deserve its leaders".

And "Freedom/democracy is not for the uninformed, lazy, scared or disorganized".  All these attributes are associated with sheep (sheeple), not people.  But that should not surprise us, given that clerics have been brainwashing its "flock" (for 2000 yrs) to be timid, passive and accepting of whatever comes their way.

Itchy and Scratchy's picture

S.O.S. to M.I.A. Asst Sec of State Victoria (FU) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan! Where is 'ya when we need 'ya?