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Disgusted Kerry And Lavrov Can't Even Hold A Phone Conversation Any More
With the "truce deal" laying torn asunder by un-de-escalation by each and every side in this dangerous game of chicken, it now seems even diplomacy is off the table. The Russian foreign ministry reports that the planned on April 23 and 24 telephone conversations between, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry , unfortunately did not take place for reasons beyond Moscow's control, adding that
- *UKRAINE GETTING DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO CRISIS: RUSSIA
- *U.S. MUST FORCE UKRAINE TO STOP MILITARY PUSH IN EAST: RUSSIA
Ukraine's 48-hour red-line is getting closer and with the UN warning that "the situation could quickly spin out of control with unpredictable consequences," it is perhaps time to derisk a little.
Via The Russian Foreign Ministry,
The unpredictability of the situation in the south-eastern regions of Ukraine, where people are thrown against regular military units, special forces and paramilitary forces, ultranationalist, requires urgent action forced wards U.S. Kiev authorities to show restraint and not to use force.
The planned on April 23 and 24 telephone contacts, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergey Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, unfortunately, did not take place for reasons beyond Moscow reasons. In the run scheduled for April 25 conversation of foreign ministers of the two countries, the Russian side once again urges Washington to use all his influence on the interim government in Kiev to reason with him and convince refrain from hasty steps, Ukraine plunged deeper into crisis.
We hope that the U.S. finally take urgent measures for de-escalation of the situation in accordance with the provisions of the Geneva Declaration on April 17. Washington should make the current Ukrainian leadership to immediately stop military operation in the South East, to ensure allocation of units of the armed forces of Ukraine and its security forces to their permanent deployment. While nothing has been done to address this urgent task. We hope that Washington understands the full measure of their responsibility for what happens.
And The UN warns,
War in eastern Ukraine must be prevented “at all costs,” UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has said as quoted by Itar-Tass.
Ban’s spokesman told journalists that all sides involved in the conflict in Ukraine must stick to the Geneva agreements of April 17, refrain from violence, repression and provocative actions.
Saying that he is “deeply concerned that the situation could quickly spin out of control with unpredictable consequences,” UN chief stressed that “military action must be avoided at all costs.”
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Put some more peanut butter in his mouth!
That will get him talkin.
pods
or a fat ***k.
if russia doesnt back out by the time kerry counts to 4 with his fronthoof...it willl be on...
< Russia will invade
< Russia will wait patiently and laugh as the the neo-Nudelmen eventually get themselves hanged by fellow Ukrainians
"derisk a little"
You must be joking .... this is America! full speed ahead ... double down tomorrow, all or nothing!
Ya know . . . if I didn't know any better, . . . just might think someone is trying to start a war
Reminds me of how the Japanese were trying to negoitate differences with the American administration for a long time before WW2 started, and they kept hitting road blocks. Little did they know that D.C. wanted in the war (so they could rescue the Brits) The US citizenry were against involvement in another European war.
@ smlbizman I legitimately laughed out loud at this.
Kerry and his endless piles of ketchup laden horseshit!
"A horse is a horse, of course, of course..."
I was thinking more demon goat
Kerry needs an emergency appointment at the glue factory.
Wake a Sleeping Bear...and find a big surprise at Your back door.
How Do You Ask a Man to be the First Man to Die for a Mistake?
Eh, Mr. Kerry? I guess times have really changed.
craz:
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Note to Kerry: Eat poop and die. (Written not as a threat, but as a commentary on him politically . . . married for money pig that he is. )
-30-
A picture a Canuck such as yerself might find amusing...
This is from the section on Wikipedia that describes how the war between the US and Russia began in the movie Threads:
An allegedly US-backed coup d'état in Iran prompts the Soviet Union to occupy the northern part of the country, ostensibly to prevent a return of the Shah's regime. On 8 May, the USA hints at deploying troops to Iran, to prevent the Soviets from reaching the oil fields in the south. On 11 May, the US navy in the Indian Ocean is put on high alert when rumours begin abounding of the disappearance of the USS Los Angeles in the Persian Gulf. The next day, a skirmish in the Gulf of Oman between the Soviet battlecruiser Kirov and the USS Callaghan leaves the former badly damaged. Subsequent discoveries by American and Israeli search and rescue vessels reveal debris and an oil slick from the missing Los Angeles, prompting the US President to warn the Soviets over the possibility of an "armed confrontation — with incalculable consequences for all mankind."
You could basically change a few names to shift everything geographically northward, and it's the same scenario.
Just looked this up...actually scared the shit out of me just reading the rest of it. Thanks.
all you need is a submarine, let's just say, german built and gifted to a certain country with a penchant for war by deception... a black market russian torpedo, and its all a go.
I like in the movie how people go about their day-to-day lives totally oblivious as newspapers and t.v. news stories tell how the world is moving toward thermonuclear war.
Chillingly familiar.
Go ask people you meet on the street about the Ukraine situation.
Observe the blank looks on their faces.
Why does humanity allow our selves to be ruled by destructive psychopaths ?
Jaw jaw, is better than war war.
Uncle Scam seems set on the latter.
Putin must be getting calls from his military to do
a first strike to kill the rabid dog that the neocons
have turned this country into.
Hope he does not listen.
Penis butter might work better.
Only if Bari is directly involved.
Disgusted*
/smug smile
Beat me to it.
Also corrected by Tyler(s). That was fast!
After reading the post itself, I've realized that it's badly edited in general. It's full of grammatical errors.
I don't understand how in the year 2014 the Russian Foreign Ministry can issue a release that gets translated so horribly to English.
I meant the commentary by Tyler(s).
speed vs. grammatical perfection... one or the other sometimes must suffer.
Blasphemy.
Alethian. Amen brother - I thought I was the only one.
The "laying" vs. "lying" error in the first sentence caused me to facepalm.
My investments are all rock solid, insured by FDIC and on servers even Putin would have a hard time finding. Long wheat as the fields in Ukraine start burning, this could really be the gotcha moment for the ECB and the EU...all that talking the markets up don't mean squat when there are boots headed your way.
Lost me at FDIC.
You may need to rethink your strategy, just like
our Secretariat of State.
Do not underestimate Russian young with time on hands sit at old crt in Tomsk...
Robots don't care Buy stocks Buy stocks....
101010101001100110100010
This is what the S&P will be after WWIII begins, because, you know, war is bullish. Peace is bullish, too. Up is bullish. Down is even more bullish.
Here a bullish, there a bullish, everywhere a bullish.
Bullishit
I care! KILL ALL HUMANS!
Just wonder which one of our 600 boys they will sacrifice so that Russia has to back off a bit...."witnesses weren't sure but thought the shot came from the Russian side...."
If there were any justice in the world, the one that would be sacrificed would be McCain, King, or any of the other neocons who can't satiate their war bloodlust fast enough.
Bloody Bill Kristol would be my first choice.
Just as clear as it was a few hundred years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord
is that why every index in the world is down apart from the Dow S&P Naz ?
John"unicorn"Kohn better get busy shitting some rainbow skittles for Lavrov before things get really ugly...
Kerry's too busy kiteboarding.
http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062103b.shtml
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/24/us-ukraine-crisis-france-idUSB...
I'm sure the Ukrainians feel so much safer now!
hey, Ukrainian army,
now would be a prudent time to flee,
go home, protect your loved ones,
Maybe Russians everywhere should return home to copulate, I keep hearing they are running out...
You meant "go home, die with your loved ones instead of for them."
John Kerry is a slimeball lying idiot and he's out of his depth.
Que Walter Zomchak from "The Big Lebowsky"......
So... cell phone coverage is "temporarily" down in Kyiv?
I said land line, dammit, not land mine!
uhhhhh...why doesn't the IMF just print some peace?
Doesn't printing solve everything?
If BuBa continues with their (gold) repatriation, that would mean a perception of Germany that Russia is safer than the US. Right (?) Since Germany is so close to Russia.. That would be the total opposite of previous reasons as in shipping it to the US for safekeeping ... get my point (?)
Do you SUPPOSE that Putin might talk out loud about these unspoken histories?
"... massive deceptions by omission done to the people ..."
The Public Be Suckered
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1230886
MISPRICINGS CAUSED THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. Look and See.*
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1241650
Another failure by Barack and his team of loosers!
You can lead a horse to water...
...and then he'll go kiteboarding.
Tyler, when you say "de-risk" you meaning selling risk assets like gold, and buying safe haven assets like the S&P and NASDAQ, right? :P
Put Kerry's looney wife on the blower!
The Ultimate Solution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhtyI2ZKRWU
"Unpredictable" consequences? No no, the consequences are entirely predictable.
I am old enough to remember NATO troops handcuffed to telephone poles and bridges in Bosnia after being disarmed without a fight.
Real warriors, those NATO troops.
NOT.
I think you have to put that one on the idiot bureaucrats who sent troops into a war zone with "no fire orders".
Agreed completely, 100%. But tell me something, please:
What has changed since then? Since Viet Nam? Since Korea?
Who runs the show now, and how are they any different than the policy-makers from the past?
Prediction, Putin pushes EMP button in last ditch effort to deter war, if that doesn't work he hits the Swiss.
Why the Swiss?
Why not, its a banker war, and that's where the banks are, hit them and the Ukraine shit ends instantly.
Everybody gets on the same page real quick when their loot is on the line.
No, he hacks into whatever the majority of sheeple watch every night, CNN or whatever and puts up Obama/Reggie love footage.
Something tells me the EMP Button is the Snowden Files.
War in 48 hours. Any minute now....
RT has report that looks Kyiv is sending troops without any food/provisions to the Eastern Ukr.
RT story shows Locals tell that Ukrainian forces seized food, medical supplies and other from locals.
time to cut the gas mr. putin
exercise some pressure on zee germans
Judy Miller got her war in Iraq. Vicky Nuland is trying to get her war in Ukraine. What is it with these yentls?
They have a deep seated unwarranted superiority complex -the are the self proclaimed "Chosen people"
Where is Clever Hans when you need him?
*edit: Twelve hours later.... Really? Nobody got that? I guess I shoulda posted a link. LOL!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans
Hey Barry - is the red phone ringing yet???? Dust it off - it's that thing with the rotary dial.
Time to re-vector those missiles away from Beijing and toward Moscow.
There are still plenty for all contingencies.
Dammit, no phone calls to leak.
Who makes phone calls anymore? True diplomacy is handled via twitter these days.
True diplomacy is handled via twitter these days.
Especially by twits.
I'd suggest Skype, but I'm sure Kerry doesn't enjoy the six hours of fresh botox and pancake makeup his Max Headroom act requires.
Drones make good diplomats too.
So US/Kerry/Clinton,.. is accusing Russia for invading the Ukraine, but,.....
more lies from the same people/scum who brought you "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction!!!!!; WE MUST GO TO WAR! Now look at the total mess we left and new dictator is in place-but we LIKE him..............ROFL
Nothing Victoria can't solve with an expletive.
If one shell financed by the US lands in Russia, or on eastern Ukrainian Russians, its safe to assume that the American administration FUCKED UP!
As a citizen I request of my representative:
Get Out of There, including proxies. Cease and desist. Try doing NOTHING. You are misdirected, confused, surrounded by idiots or worse.
You can't fight in here, this is the war room!
I'm growing tired of this.
Putin needs to send a different negotiator...
Please recall that in the lead up to the Crimean invasion Lavrov made himself unavailable to the Ukrainian Government...He simply would not answer the phone calls by Ukrainian officials.
Again and again, the Ukrainians were denied a means to discuss the circumstances with Russia. Interviews by the BBC PRIOR to the invasion of Crimea documented this.
Does this mean that Troops from Russia will be heading into East Ukraine? I would not be surprised. I had said that Russia was 60% likely to NOT invade for the many reasons of economics and tactical and strategic vulnerability.
The shutdown of access to Lavrov by the US ambassador must be seen as a sign of further escalation and impending military action by Russia. The new odds are on Russia invading. Too bad for them.