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Harry Reid Issues Statement On "Hateful Racist" Cliven Bundy

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Reid Calls For Leaders To Unite In Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy’s Dangerous Extremism
April 24, 2014 | Press Releases
“This is not a game.”

Las Vegas, NV  – Nevada Senator Harry Reid released the following statement today on racist comments by Cliven Bundy reported by the New York Times.

“I used to live in North Las Vegas and it is home to some of the hardest-working people I have ever met – men and women who embody the American dream by working hard every day to build a better life for themselves and their families. By contrast, Cliven Bundy has spent decades profiting off government land while refusing to pay the same fair use fees as his fellow ranchers. Today, Bundy revealed himself to be a hateful racist. But by denigrating people who work hard and play by the rules while he mooches off public land he also revealed himself to be a hypocrite.

“To advance his extreme, hateful views, Bundy has endangered the lives of innocent women and children. This is not a game. It is the height of irresponsibility for any individual or entity in a position of power or influence to glorify or romanticize such a dangerous individual, and anyone who has done so should come to their senses and immediately condemn Bundy. For their part, national Republican leaders could help show a united front against this kind of hateful, dangerous extremism by publicly condemning Bundy.

“The bottom line is that elected officials and those in positions of power or influence have a responsibility to unite behind the basic principle that we are a country of laws, and that whatever our differences, it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”


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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:32 | 4691335 JLee2027
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Coming from the demented, no surprise.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691338 quintago
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it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”

But it's perfectly fine for the government?


The real question is, what is it going to take to get this guy out of office? Where do I send my money?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4691360 StacksOnStacks
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The same Reid that sells America to the Chinese for pennies on the dollar... or dorrar?  What a douche canoe!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:37 | 4691384 McMolotov
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The same Reid who praised Obama as a "light-skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:14 | 4692006 BustainMovealota
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LOL -  that's right.  I forgot about that one.  Whats it gonna take America?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:05 | 4692730 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sorry for chiming in this late, but...

Reid gives the expression "Dirty Harry" a whole new meaning.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:03 | 4693569 Wahooo
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These fucking rapists need to be put away.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4691362 john39
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pretty interesting how they can broaden this dispute to pit not just liberals vs conservatives... but now race as well...  whatever it takes to get the civil conflict going i guess.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:37 | 4691387 Ignatius
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It's not personal, it's business.

Clive needs a PR guy.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:48 | 4691462 maskone909
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these be treachourous waters.  when any dissent from citizens results in the "you are a terrorist" accusation, its time for a change.  it used to be such a different world before the terrorist word became part of the vernacular. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:48 | 4691469 FEDbuster
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I guess I missed it, but what did Cliven Bundy say or do that makes him a "hateful racist"?  Women, childeren, Native Ameicans, African Americans, Mexican Americans, Irish Ameicans, German Americans, etc.... were all in the group of Bundy/Liberty supporters that day.  Dirty Harry might be about to have a "Scanners" moment:

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:54 | 4691507 Big Corked Boots
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"what did Cliven Bundy say or do"

He disagreed with Harry.

He didn't roll over and die for Harry.

He read the Constitution and believed it.

We are all terrerists now.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:03 | 4691580 FEDbuster
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Just read the NYT article comments on negros in N. Las Vegas.  Mr. Bundy most likely hasn't been coached in politicaly correct speech.  He is what I would call a straight shooter, telling it like it is. 

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."  George Orwell

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:48 | 4691885 HardAssets
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You believe the NYT ?  The same NYT who just admitted to photo shopping 'photos of Russian soldiers in Ukraine' ?   Really ?


I heard the interview with Bundy & AJ this morning. They outright lied about what Bundy said regarding purported statements about 'picking cotton'. They distorted the other things he said.

Pretty old and obvious tactics. Listen to the interview and decide for yourself.



Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:26 | 4692070 WarPony
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Where you find AJ, you will find a troll.  A clever troll - pied-piper and all - but troll none the less.  Has he ever called out Israel?  No.  Troll.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:45 | 4692419 Dakota Kid
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WP- What does Israel have to do with this situation?
Are you trying to add yet another ingredient into this awful pot of soup?
Sounds like you are the troll to me.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:10 | 4692529 WarPony
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Just saying AJ is a zionista disinfo agent to "pied-piper" the not-so in-tune militia over the cliff when the time is right, like this Bundy fiasco.  I've been militia since before it was cool.  AJ came along after we shut down the Blood Games in Monatana.  "They" had to go back and tweak the machine to figure out how to handle what turned out to be a rebellion in the making where 60K folks showed in Montana and tens of thousands were ready to follow coast to coast.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:48 | 4692906 TheFutureReset
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I think these comments are too far out there for even the the ardent libs to believe. Reids comments will end up back firing on the dumb goons. 

The American Spring is going to put the Arab Spring to shame with the utter intensity of the fighting. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:56 | 4691525 SheepDog-One
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Yea I don't know either, apparently the slightest hint of dissent against outright govt theft and tyranny is replied to with the 'extremist terrorist' label. At least now people can't say asserting that makes you a tinfoil conspiracy kook.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4691666 Lore
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That letter is pretty scrambled. This fellow Reid is pushing 75. He seems confused. Could he suffer from dementia? 


"Alzheimer’s aggression most often flares up during the later stages of Alzheimer’s disease. The person may become easily agitated, angry, and abusive -- often for no apparent reason. The person may curse, hurl insults, and scream. Though verbal assaults are more common than physical assaults, a person with Alzheimer’s disease may throw things or resist care by pushing and hitting..."

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:20 | 4692043 thelibcentury
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I think they age differently; do reptilians get Alzheimers? ;)

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:40 | 4691409 agent default
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Obama's legacy will be incredible racial tensions.  That's the only thing you can count on.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:54 | 4691516 john39
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divide and conquer...  how a tiny hidden minority has ruled for centuries...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:56 | 4691527 Future Jim
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May I suggest Obama's legacy be The Great Divider? Consider his role in the Trayvon Zimmerman affair ...

Trayvon, Obama, NBC, ABC, Democrats

Let’s not speculate about Trayvon or Zimmerman themselves, instead, let’s discuss the national issue that we know.

NBC, the Democrats, and Obama used Trayvon Martin’s death to propagate the New Hate.

There was no evidence of racism in Zimmerman’s 911 call, so NBC doctored the 911 call in two ways to make the call sound like ironclad evidence that Zimmerman was motivated by racism. Also, there was an injury on the back of Zimmerman’s head, so ABC doctored the video to hide it. Then NBC and ABC used their power as a national mainstream news organization to turn the local Trayvon case into a national case. As you can imagine, this infuriated the black community across the nation.

Then Barack Obama, as the President of the United States and as the most beloved and trusted leader of the black community, spoke to the nation. To the black community, who were already incited to hatred and anger by the media, Obama said this, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.

The media and the Democrats thus incited hatred in the black community against white people, which did indeed result in violence against white people, and Obama basically gave the order. Of course, the media suppressed the evidence of their guilt, and viciously attacked anyone who questioned the politically correct narrative they had fabricated. The way the media and the Democrats worked together to incite hatred in the black community and in the politically correct community while suppressing dissent, not only resulted in violence against white people, but also resulted in more votes for the Democratic Party.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:01 | 4691562 drendebe10
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The fudge packer in chief has about as much in common with American Blacks as white people do with polar bears.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:21 | 4691709 SAT 800
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Yeah, and the NAACP knows this, too.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:43 | 4691854 g'kar
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:58 | 4691910 TheObsoleteMan
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You're obviously not from Florida, so I will tell you who is to blame for the lion's share of the fiasco at why the Zimmerman/Martin shooting got elevated to National news, AND A REPUBLICAN IS TO BLAME FOR MOST OF IT. After the Seminole County  Prosecutor's Office decided they didn't have enough evidence to charge Zimmerman with anything, Republican Govenor Rick Scott fired the Police Chief of the City of Sanford, and replaced him with a black. He then removed the prosecuter that had made the earlier decision, and replaced him with a rabid liberal from another county {Pig Lady, as I like to call her}. This was done solely to placate Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, or so he thought it would. It didn't. Instead, it gave them the platform they wanted all along. From there the "case" took on a life of it's own. Had Gov.Scott not done those things, after a week or two, this whole afair would have gone away. We all know what happened instead. Govenor Scott is a crook and fool. Another Chicago gangster, transplanted down here, passing himself off as a conservative "tea party" republican. He is human garbage, and how Floridians could re-elect him again is beyond my reason.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:04 | 4691963 Future Jim
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Thanks. I didn't know about what Rick Scott did, but if anything, you have only reaffirmed my original analysis.

BTW, your post sounds a little racist where you said "replaced him with a black". I hope you didn't mean it that way.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:40 | 4692122 TheObsoleteMan
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I was trying to make the point that Gov. Scott was acting solely out of a combination of self interest and political correctness by replacing the white police chief with a black one to hopefully satisfy Jesse's and Al's demands for a pound of flesh. This police chief was offered up as a sacrifical lamb. What is racist ON MY PART about that?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:36 | 4692379 Future Jim
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You could have said "replaced him with a black man," and even better, you could have said "replaced him with a black man to try to placate Al Sharpton."

I'm just telling you how it sounds at that point.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:45 | 4692414 TheObsoleteMan
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Geezus, give it a rest man. I'm not going to tipy-toe around words, especially when nothing I said was offensive to anybody but the most indoctrinated and brainwashed. Some folks are just looking to call someone else a racist, homophobe or machoist. You seriously are in need of being de-programed.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:30 | 4693821 forexskin
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what are you, the fucking PC editing newthink ZH service? fuck yourself silly -  sorrrrrry, fuck yourself silly man.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:55 | 4692215 Clycntct
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If he said replaced him with a cotton picker you might be closer in the "I hope you didn't mean it that way."

What the fk man he used the color for specificity.

Is in the corner of every mouth a racist statement just pushing to get out?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:40 | 4692395 TheObsoleteMan
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Too many people have been conditioned to see racism whenever anything is ever mentioned concerning race. Even when it is the truth. We can thank academia and the media for that.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:04 | 4693570 janus
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@obsolete man...

this is indeed the scenario that unfolded.  it was, however, called from DC.  gov. scotty is on the down-low -- man country crowd.  high-up in the gay mafia.  a very powerful twink.

congrats, tea-party of florida. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:54 | 4693730 TheObsoleteMan
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I figured that out a long time ago. Sad part is, So is Charlie Crist.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:14 | 4693602 Wahooo
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Are you talking about Corey? Sheesh, she is human garbage.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691368 Stackers
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If only one could die from hypocrisy ........

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:38 | 4691396 Ignatius
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Thank you for that one, Stackers.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:51 | 4691491 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Harry Reid makes me believe that elections are fixed.  I mean, who would actually vote for this guy?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:17 | 4691681 Lost Word
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In his early political days, Harry Reid was somewhat of a populist politician.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691375 alangreedspank
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It is unacceptable to him, the same way it is unacceptable to him that everyone becomes a thief: because when that happens, there's no incentive in being a thief!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:41 | 4691422 SharkBit
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:06 | 4691969 Overfed
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I'd rather feed that mutherfucker to a tiger.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:46 | 4692425 Sweet Chicken
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I love you Richard Parker

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:24 | 4693047 Baldrick
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cougar that is your cue.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:35 | 4693092 A82EBA
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LOL  :)))

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:56 | 4691531 sleigher
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I thought because he is the majority leader he can be recalled nationally and we don't have to depend on the state.


Maybe it isn't true, I am not sure of the rules about that.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:04 | 4691584 Chupacabra-322
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it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”

"But it's perfectly fine for the government?"

No, it's not. Especially coming from a Fraudulent entity like the Criminal, in the D.C. District of Criminals UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:19 | 4691697 SAT 800
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Logically then; it's not fine for the individuals who work for the government; the trigger happy ex-mercenaries rotating back from their thrilling killing excursions in Iraq, for instance.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:46 | 4691873 MedTechEntrepreneur
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"What is it going to take to get this guy out of office?"



A lot. Harry Reid has the "very special" Chuck Hagel electronic voting machines and corrupt "helpers" to ballot stuff too.  Someone will have to get the goods on him and reveal it.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:54 | 4691920 European American
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"The real question is, what is it going to take to get this guy out of office? Where do I send my money?"


Where do I send my .308?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691346 thunderchief
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Go hang Harry

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:08 | 4691612 Chupacabra-322
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No worries. Harry Reid's day of reckoning is fast approaching him. He's blood thirsty & filled with compete Hubris. That will be his downfall.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:00 | 4691945 Caveman93
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Didn't we used to hang people in the west for cattle and horse thievery?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:39 | 4691406 Zadok
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Repost, but oddly enough I didn't have to change a word!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 12:17 | 4690971Zadok

Cliven Bundy perfectly described the intentional, designed, and enforced transition from compelled slavery of a sub group of human beings to 'voluntary' or slavery by trickery of all human beings. Central in this is the redefinition of a 'person', the 14th amendment, and multiple contrived nation bankruptcies used as false justification.
Clear articulation that no one was 'freed', only further enslaved by different methods is crisp and clearly articulated by Cliven.
To say otherwise is to remove all doubt that you are a useful idiot or a troll cultivating race conflict.
To you sir, piss off!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:41 | 4691415 holmes
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When Reid is dead (hopefully much sooner than later), I will give a small fortune to piss

on his grave.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:43 | 4691427 813kml
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I'm sure there is already a Vegas casino in the works to grant your wish.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:04 | 4691589 Mr Pink
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Ironically, he has probably paid a small fortune to transvestites to piss on him when he is alive

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:06 | 4691603 goBackToSleep
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drip a little for me. I'd give you some frn's but hat would probably insult your intelligience. I'll throw in some AG.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:48 | 4691467 doctor10
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Looks to me like the Feds were the first ones waving guns and spouting stupidity.

COINTELPRO is a nasty business in general-worse when they turn it on to  Americans

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:54 | 4691512 drendebe10
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.... this contemptible, corrupt, fossilized, withered old turd needs to have its skin sand papered off then thrown out in the middle of the Nevada desert for carrion..... and that is probably too good for the turd....

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:08 | 4691616 Bill of Rights
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None of these Liberals have no shame

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:09 | 4691625 midtowng
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Zerohedge is losing credibility. They never mention what Mr. "Let me tell you about the Negro" Bundy actually said.

   the right-wing here embraced the wrong "hero".

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:25 | 4691732 drendebe10
drendebe10's picture if you grew up knowing blacks as negro, as most people over 60 or so did, and you use the word negro because that's what you grew up with, that's wrong?    WTF?   What does the NAACP's CP stand for?  Explain that please.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:30 | 4691775 WillyGroper
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coons & possums

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:48 | 4692674 midtowng
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Even Hannity has abandoned Bundy.

Isnt it time the right-wingers here do too?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:38 | 4693839 forexskin
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oh you mean HANNITY, that paragon of moral virtue and truth, the one true voice against - whatever strawman evil the statist of the day club can come up with?

yea, we'll get right on that...

where'd you say you're from?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:20 | 4692778 ejmoosa
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Well, they'd change the name, but they already have a lot of dollars invested in promoting NAACP...


It'a all about the money...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:08 | 4691976 Pickleton
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So of course, Harry Reid isn't your hero since he called preezy stompy foot a negro in his lil racist rant....

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:12 | 4692576 JuliaS
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Bundy expressed a view that during slavery, slaves had more freedom than they do today under the federal government.

Through a poorly thought out statement he managed to give perfect ammunition to Feds trying to discredit him, and also made enemies with welfare state majority. He lost support on both fronts. Now even his allies are trying to distance themselves.

This goes to show that when you are trying to prove a point, stick to your guns and pay careful attention to every single word that comes out of your mouth. We live in an age of information warfare where evey syllable gets twisted to support agendas.

... and in the end, even if you managed to keep a perfectly clean slate, and preach words with clarity of an attorney, they'll still get you. Typically, they'll plant drugs, accuse you of rape, or plain and simple - call you a terrorist.

In the days to come, I won't be surprised if it is discovered that the racist in question also sniffs cow dung to get high, sleeps around with animals and hides gold bars under Ron Paul posters while practicing satanic rituals with with Iranian nuclear scientists.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:43 | 4693851 forexskin
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ah no, his allies don't give a shit how it can be mis-interpreted, WE get that he is a real human being, and his words expressed sentiments like empathy, kindness, admiration, and peacefulness.

better idea - keep it real, don't play their language game, and forget being afraid. \

because your prescription is for paralysis.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:45 | 4694025 JuliaS
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Leaving the fear behind - that's the hard part. That's why I'm hiding out this side of the comptuer screen. Cracking jokes at ZH is easy. Standing ground while covered in sniper dots takes guts, as well as speaking your mind without conforming to politically correct language. I must admit, I am weak, I am scared, I am paralyzed, I know what's coming, I don't like it and I'm not exactly sure what to do about it.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 08:50 | 4694343 forexskin
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you admit freely you see what we're up against, clearly understanding how that makes you feel. right there with you.

would we consciously choose to leave this future for our children? not mine. only time will tell where this leaves me personally, and yes it scares me too. what sane person would say otherwise?

but i'm not letting fear stop me from saying my piece to people around me - not just here - in my whole life.

i am an honest man, and i understand my chosen ideal - Liberty. The Founders were my brothers and sisters. If they could pledge their sacred honor and lives to the ideal that our children should not grow up slaves, blindly or openly, then so can i. The enemy of tyrrany is the friend to God, and free humans everywhere.

God help and comfort us all.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4692653 Blano
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The Spanish word for black is "negro."  So all Spanish speakers are racist then?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:49 | 4692677 midtowng
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I've lived in a spanish-speaking nation and spoke spanish. You don't know what you are talking about.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:55 | 4692944 Lost Word
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Same Latin root word.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:17 | 4691682 SilverRhino
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Racist?  Sorry that card has been played TOO MANY TIMES.   

I flat out dont fucking care if someone gets called a racist now.    KKK?  Yeah I'm not inviting them to a BBQ but I really don't fucking care. 

New Black Panthers show up?  Ok, let's lock, load and watch.   As long as they aren't starting shit I dont give a fuck any more.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:20 | 4691785 SILVERGEDDON

If Cliven Bundy is a racist, then Harrry Reid is Adolf Fucking Hitler.

Exterminator, destroyer of legend. 

Tie that Harry Reid son of a bitches mouth to the business end of a toilet. 

Charge five bucks a flush. 

Pay the national debt off in about two weeks.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:35 | 4691795 Guns N Metals
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...and coming from a former atheist converted to a pagan of the Mormon Church who's married to a Jew.

It's no wonder he's out of touch with the people of this nation.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:10 | 4691974 Cathartes Aura
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mormons refer to themselves as Zionists often, their hymns are full of the word. . .and their revered first prophet was a "third degree mason". . .

they're the perfect set-up for this current role, no?

interesting that both Reid and Bundy are mormons. . .


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:27 | 4692048 Lost Word
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The Mormon Church secret marriage ceremony today

is evidently derived from "secret" Freemasonry ceremony,

presumably since the beginning  in the early 1800's when several leading Mormons were Freemasons.


Which might imply that Mormons keep their secrets protected like Freemasons.

A conspiracy of criminals similar to the Mafia.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:18 | 4692301 HamRove
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Mormons didn't even consider Black or indigenous people HUMAN until the 70s. Hows that for forward thinking?

And for people out there who somehow believe that Reid cares about black people...he doesn't. Guaranteed!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:58 | 4692579 KickIce
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Some of the handshakes and symbols have been adopted from Freemasonry.  As far as "protected secrets" the temple is treated like an ordinary building until it is dedicated.  Once buildings are completed (and before they are dedicated) the public is invited for tours and guides explain what is done in each room.  Once the building is dedicated only members that hold temple recommends are allowed in.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:53 | 4692640 KickIce
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zionism to Mormons is people coming together that willingly want to serve God.  It has no relation with this bullshit the Rothschilds are trying to shove down our throats.

As far as masonry being a 3rd degree mason only means that he has gone throught initiation degree and the fellowcraft degree.

To be a Master Mason you need to take the first three degrees. There are more degrees, but they don't automatically make you a more important Mason. A Master Mason (3rd Degree) can become a lodge officer or Master of the Lodge, or hold any important position including Grand Master without taking any other degrees. The other degrees can add to your knowledge (as can reading masonic books) but just being a 32nd or 33rd Degree does not give you the automatic right to tell people what to do. Source:


I am a 32nd Degree Mason, and a Knight Templar, but I am a very minor officer in my lodge, taking orders from 3rd degree masons- and I have no desire to change that. (Just to clarify I'm not a master mason, I just referenced a link that quoted one.)
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:50 | 4693860 forexskin
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wow, that's pretty impressive.

what kind of orders? or is that shit just too real for all us po folk...

hey, i've got a secret too! wanna know it? it could affect your life, your wealth, your faith - just imagine...

oops, sorry, you're not in the club.

better luck next life.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:53 | 4691913 robertsgt40
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What Dirty Harry failed to mention about that "federal" land Bundy's cattle have been chewing on used to belong to Mr Bundy before the feds confiscated it in 1933(w/o compensation)

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 00:47 | 4693954 Pooper Popper
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Hey harry go fuck yourself you dickless asshole!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691339 drink or die
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So for the record:


Pointing out that more black babies are aborted than born is racist.

Pointing out that black people are being kept down by the welfare state is racist.

Telling black people that the reason they are poor is because of white people is loving and good.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:45 | 4691424 Gavrikon
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Pointing out that more black babies are aborted than born is racist.

No, but pointing out the FACT that aborting black babies lowers violent crime is, because FACTS IZ RAYCISSS."

Pointing out that black people are being kept down by the welfare state is racist.

No, but pointing out that blacks get taxpayer support at a much higher level by percentage than any other group is ,  because FACTS IZ RAYCISSS.
Telling black people that the reason they are poor is because of white people is loving and good.
But telling them they are poor because of their OWN actions is racist, because FACTS IZ RAYCISSS.
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:01 | 4691567 walküre
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Fact - Blacks are not colorblind and no matter how much White hopes there will ever be equality, those Whites are barking up the wrong tree. Always have.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:25 | 4691736 Lost Word
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Black people probably hate white people more than white people hate black people.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:02 | 4692244 BlindMonkey
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If some nigger tied up my grandpa, drug his ass to Africa to work and I was born there I would likely have an issue with niggers too. /s


Can't fix it at this point. There are blood feuds baked into the cake that can't be unwound without destroying the cake itself. The best you can hope for is a draw as nobody wins. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:12 | 4692281 Lost Word
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I seem to recall some black person saying something like,

"thank God my black ancestors were brought to America,

instead of being condemned to living in Africa."

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:26 | 4693475 walküre
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Zimbabwe - Angola - Kongo - Rwanda - Sudan - Nigeria ... just to name a few RECENT examples. It would look worse across Africa if white settlers had never set foot on that continent. Why is it such a shithole? I don't know. Could be just "temporary". Don't get me wrong, I love African wildlife and nature. Whatever is driving the people there insane is beyond me.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:45 | 4691443 pods
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You can point out lots of things. 
I would sort of stay away from the "they are in jail cause you didn't teach them to pick cotton"


when talking of freedom to say anything about being better off as property.

Come on.  I could not fuck something up this bad if I actually wanted to.

Sometimes people just need to STFU.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:57 | 4691494 Dr. Engali
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I agree 100%. If this is true, I'd like to personally give this fucker a kick in the nuts, and smash them into a pulp for the damage he has done. Hopefully htis turns out to be a bullshit story from a NYTs reporter.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:58 | 4691537 john39
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of course I can't really prove it...  but this whole episode seems like one more stage managed psyop.  most don't want to believe that it could possible, and yet...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:00 | 4691553 Dr. Engali
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See my post below.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:18 | 4691686 john39
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yeah, saw that. i'm afraid that its true.  which doesn't bode well for where they want to take things next.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:05 | 4691598 pods
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I would really hope so.  I could very well imagine a situation where a guy mistakes the support for the cause with support for him.

That is why I do not get behind PEOPLE, only ideas that can be logically debated. 

Once you get behind a PERSON, you are stuck with that person.  Ideas are independent of people.

The USA suffers from a Cult of Personality too much anyways.  



Thu, 04/24/2014 - 16:03 | 4692248 Karl Danneskjold
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well said brother.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:12 | 4691647 midtowng
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His words are on tape. It isn't a BS story.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:38 | 4691739 Dr. Engali
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Well so much for that idea. A kick in the nuts it is then.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:37 | 4691804 TN Jed
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Not just any tape, but video tape.  Oh there will be seat cushin sniffin tonight on msnbc.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:42 | 4691847 midtowng
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Listening to him, he's not mean. He's just a moron.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:07 | 4692734 HardAssets
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We'll, as they'd reply in the Old West:


Dumber than a box of horse shoes

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:14 | 4691604 TN Jed
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Yeah, he had good intentions but the words he chose were brutally naive from a PR perspective. I don't like it either but just look around.  His entire legal argument and the groundswell behind him is now done regardless if you agree with it or not.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:35 | 4691801 cro_maat
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How does 1 setup interview for MSM nullify his legal argument?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:40 | 4691818 TN Jed
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If I have to answer that then you haven't been paying attention.  Since when do laws matter?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:11 | 4691637 midtowng
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You can find the right-wing nuts here by looking at the ones that continue to defend Bundy.

You got a problem with the federal government fine. So do I. But this guy isn't your hero unless you are a nut.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:58 | 4692227 decon
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:49 | 4692676 Blano
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Ever heard of freedom of speech, or are you too young to remember what it's like to live in a free country?

You can condemn his words, but he has as much right to say them as anyone else.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:27 | 4691748 Lost Word
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Teaching Picking Cotton was perhaps symbolism for Teaching how to work at a job.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:34 | 4691791 pods
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If old Bundy was going for symbolism, he damn well should have been smart enough to avoid a known inflammatory symbol.

Do they grow a lot of cotton in Nevada?


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 15:05 | 4691967 American Dreams
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You see pods, to him it was not inflammatory.  He simply and finally ran out of talent for the situaton. 

There be no shelter here


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:59 | 4693871 forexskin
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is it enough a waste of time to overanalyse this? no?

how about overanalysing it from the perspective of their chosen battlefield?

Bundy does not come from Madison Avenue! Revelation! hows that for honest?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:32 | 4691340 1000yrdstare
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And he is cutting into my profits!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691345 JLee2027
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What's really sad is this guy is re-elected every 6 years by electronic (wink wink) votes.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691348 naughtius maximus
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Hypocrites should not lecture others on hypocracy.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:52 | 4691496 dontgoforit
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Even though they are most qualified.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691349 Colonel Klink
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Colonel Klink issues a statement on "totally corrupt, self serving, graft taking, Constitution stomping, statist" Harry Reid.

Go FUCK YOURSELF you piece of shit!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:37 | 4691811 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

I see the "Lone Junker" is out today...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:47 | 4692905 Colonel Klink
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Thank DCRB, I'd like to shit stomp any down voter.  They're so ignorant as to be the problem.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:33 | 4691350 Son of Loki
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Where's Jesse? Al?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:49 | 4692913 Colonel Klink
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Harry should be posing in Hustler, since that's the hustling WHORE he is.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:43 | 4693125 machineh
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Legs in the air, Harry.

Show us your castration scar!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 00:00 | 4693875 forexskin
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is there a quick shorthand for LOL + puking at the same time?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4691353 PlusTic
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Deliver him to me and I will initiate torture sequence 5.0...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4691356 ZippyBananaPants
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Who elected this clown?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691381 Stoploss
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Welfare monkey's.  They are the only ones who have the time to show up..

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:03 | 4691579 drendebe10
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,,, and casino union worker stooges...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:38 | 4691358 Dr. Engali
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Nothing like condemnation of hate coming from a hater. War is peace, Freedom is slavery, and ignorance is strength.

Go fuck yourself Harry schlong.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:34 | 4691359 Okienomics
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it is unacceptable for socialists to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.

There, fixed it.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691363 skipjack
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Haha, Hairy Reid went there...that's rayciss...


Besides, Dirty Hairy knows all about profiting off government land, now doesn't he.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:35 | 4691371 highly debtful
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Dear mr Reid: go boil your head.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691372 mydogisprettier...
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691374 buzzsaw99
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reid doesn't pay grazing fees either. minnie the moocher

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:36 | 4691379 alien-IQ
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the fact that low-life scumbags like Reid keep getting elected over and over and over again is one of the many reasons why America is truly and totally FUCKED.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:44 | 4691435 SheepDog-One
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Yea that's what baffles me, the people I know in Nevada complain about their corrupt politicians yet they keep voting for Reid.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 14:04 | 4691593 alien-IQ
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I know plenty of people like that also. I can't figure out if it's stupidity or laziness. Most likely it's a healthy dose of both.

But hey, you don't get the government you want, you get the government you deserve.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:48 | 4692912 holmes
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The scumbag has been in the Senate for 5 terms. With his seniority he can bring home the bacon better than Porky Pig. I'll bet some of the pricks that vote for him know he's fucking over the Country but it's ok because he is fattening their wallets.

Scumbag Harry is the poster boy for Term Limits.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:41 | 4691382 SheepDog-One
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But it's OK for the govt thugs to just steal and kill whoever they want?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:38 | 4691385 ZeroPoint
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One thing for certain - if the PTB think they are going to lose, they will kill you. I pray for the Bundy bloodline and all the patriots standing up to defend us from them.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:38 | 4691389 Cow
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He's an Extreme Extremist.  A Racist Terrorist who hates women and children, both of whom are always "innocent".

Wait... are we talking about Harry or Clive?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 13:37 | 4691390 quasimodo
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As much as I hate to say this, Bundy is fucked three ways to Sunday now. Maybe he was anyway, but this just sealed the deal. 

Why can't people just keep their mouth shut?


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