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Harry Reid Issues Statement On "Hateful Racist" Cliven Bundy

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Reid Calls For Leaders To Unite In Condemnation Of Cliven Bundy’s Dangerous Extremism
  
April 24, 2014 | Press Releases
“This is not a game.”

Las Vegas, NV  – Nevada Senator Harry Reid released the following statement today on racist comments by Cliven Bundy reported by the New York Times.

“I used to live in North Las Vegas and it is home to some of the hardest-working people I have ever met – men and women who embody the American dream by working hard every day to build a better life for themselves and their families. By contrast, Cliven Bundy has spent decades profiting off government land while refusing to pay the same fair use fees as his fellow ranchers. Today, Bundy revealed himself to be a hateful racist. But by denigrating people who work hard and play by the rules while he mooches off public land he also revealed himself to be a hypocrite.

“To advance his extreme, hateful views, Bundy has endangered the lives of innocent women and children. This is not a game. It is the height of irresponsibility for any individual or entity in a position of power or influence to glorify or romanticize such a dangerous individual, and anyone who has done so should come to their senses and immediately condemn Bundy. For their part, national Republican leaders could help show a united front against this kind of hateful, dangerous extremism by publicly condemning Bundy.

“The bottom line is that elected officials and those in positions of power or influence have a responsibility to unite behind the basic principle that we are a country of laws, and that whatever our differences, it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”

 

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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:39 | 4692857 luckystrike6
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Seems to me like it's usually white people putting them in jail. And I don't see the connection between going to jail and not "learning" how to pick cotton.

I also don't see how he thinks they're better off as slaves picking cotton when, according to the sentence right before that, they don't know how to pick cotton.

If you think that what he said makes sense, in even a simple, one sentence to another kind of way, I'd like to know what drugs you're on. And if you actually agree with the gist of his argument, I'd like to know what fuckin century you live in.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:43 | 4692881 luckystrike6
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Not to mention the obvious fact that "being slaves" and "having a family life" has gotta be the most fuckin ridiculous sentence -- I mean I didn't even believe the man said that when I saw the video. You know they just took kids away from their mothers, whenever the slavers saw fit to, took wives away from their husbands... that's gotta be the most offensive line in the thing.

What FREEDOM do you think you lack, you white power douchebag, that you can't have without beatin' on black people? I bet you can't even tie your own goddamn shoes.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:05 | 4693187 messystateofaffairs
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You sound like one of those confused white people who go around apologizing to black people for being white. By the way, I'm black. I also tie my shoes expertly and earn a lot of money providing things people want but have a major portion of it stolen by government, probably to buy votes from welfare recipient white trash like you, when its not being used to fund military expeditions to murder foreigners for their resources. Anyway someone with your mindset would be happier on Huffingtonpost.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:35 | 4692634 Vesuvius
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Divide & conquer doesn't seem to be working now, at least not on 0hedge.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:35 | 4692638 alangreedspank
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Reid front shot is quite unsettling

http://imgur.com/iqfyCEK

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:37 | 4692643 nasa
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Fuck you Mr. Reid

Fuck you Mr Bundy

I struggle to understand why ZH continues to champion Bundy as some freedom fighter. He is just another member of the Free Shit Army and Reid can go fuck himself for calling out another racist without looking in the mirror first.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:34 | 4692842 luckystrike6
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The real question is why ZH posted Reid's response instead of linking to the actual video of Bundy saying what he said, which is a lot more straight to the point. I don't give a shit what Reid said, and the only reason ZH used that as the headline is to try to give some credence to their stupid ass support for Bundy in the last couple weeks.

Oh noes! This isn't really the start of the real, real revolution?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:06 | 4692979 Obama_4_Dictator
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I vote we start the real revolution with luckystrike6....anyone want to up arrow that?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4692650 royal
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This isn't just about Bundy Ranch.

It's about the majority of us who believe in a free republic of the United States of America.

Harry Reid's accusations are an attack on us all.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:56 | 4692691 Accounting101
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Stop with the hyperbolic bullshit! This stupid ass rancher's antics have not a goddamn thing to do with liberty or a free republic. Bundy has been sucking off the government teat for 20 years. It's time this welfare cheat pays up. Fuck him!

Where in the hell were you in 2008-09 when the Oligarchs transferred $23 trillion of their debt onto the US taxpayers. That is when liberty and a free republic died.

We need to start paying attention to what is important. The welfare whore Bundy is not that.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:04 | 4693202 SilverIsMoney
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He has a lease with Clark County going back to 1870... the gov't decided they were no longer recognizing it when they took over the land and told him he had to pay up. He believe's the lease with Clark County takes precedence over the Feds taking the land only 20 years ago.

 

He's right. When the Feds don't recognize contracts you're involved in you'd probably feel the same way. All you fucktards making this out to be a welfare issue are a bunch of morons. This is about what authority the Feds really have vs state and local contracts.

 

Furthermore someone needs to ask the question why a federal government that's 17 trillion dollars in debt owns any fucking land at all and why they haven't sold it back to the people to chip away at the debt...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:25 | 4693810 Accounting101
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He can believe whatever he wants to believe. Bundy is a simple welfare whore, and your shiny object. Your dick is all hard about some bullshit in Nevada that has absolutely nothing to do with you, but you keep silent about the real threats to our democracy and freedoms. The continued socialization of private debt that robs the middle class of economic security continues unabated, while you jerk off to some fool and his cattle.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:56 | 4692697 Cult of Criminality
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Harry Reid is a domestic terrorist...Is it not blatantly obvious?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:59 | 4692708 luckystrike6
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHH. I wonder where that alleged black cowboy went who was backing up Bundy.

Oh Sean Hannity. Don't act all shocked that Bundy turned out to be a racist. You're just shocked he said what he said in front of a camera. But guess what, this is what happens when your network makes money pandering to ignorant freeloaders who're trying to live on the government dime by stealing public land. This is what happens when you confuse white power racist sons of bitches with free-thinking conservatives. Sooner or later, one of your jackasses is gonna go off the reservation, and then you got a lotta pie in your fat face.

It's so nice to see this silly pile of shit just self-implode, and watchin his guts splatter all over Fox.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:04 | 4692727 Never One Roach
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That's just like Harry; giving Americans the Finger like he gave all those Seniors at Town Hall meetings.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:05 | 4692729 dogfish
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FUCK YOU harry.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:09 | 4692739 luckystrike6
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Wasn't Harry that got over-excited in front of a camera and said to the effect that negros would be better off back in slavery. Don't think Harry woud'a said that even if you put ten wiskeys in him...

This sober mormon fuck, on the other hand... no excuse.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:16 | 4693252 BeetleBailey
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1. Why the flying fuck is Cliven Bundy's thoughts and opinions relevant? Because his cows are grazing in a disputed land fuck up?

Fuck this thoughts....not the god damned issue.

...and Harry....

FUCK YOU, YOU PRICK!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:08 | 4692736 royal
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Bundy said that blacks were better off as slaves than being on government welfare.

Since both are a form of slaverly, I would say that blacks are better off with neither.

However, looking at Chicago black crime statistics, involving rape and murder, I would say the rest of us are better off without blacks.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:14 | 4692761 hognutz
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Indeed!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:20 | 4692782 22winmag
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Thete were 5,000 landowning free blacks in the Confederate States at the outbreak of the civil war... no welfare needed.

 

Souce: U.S. Census

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:27 | 4692810 luckystrike6
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I guess this here happened because there's no racism in the south, huh? http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/banished/forsyth.html

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:22 | 4692788 luckystrike6
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The existence of people like you is why America deserves everything coming to it.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:23 | 4692793 Lord Koos
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Better off without them, huh, after your ancestors brought them here in chains?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:31 | 4692828 arby63
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If you are black, your ancestors brought you here.  Not mine.  Stop blaming me. The nation's cities are crumbling. We all know why. Do you?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:44 | 4692886 luckystrike6
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shit, I bet you've never even been to a city bigger than little rock.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:08 | 4693584 Morla
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If you looked a little harder at those statistics you'd see that the vast majority of violent crimes committed by blacks are against other blacks. Looks to me to be largely the result of the "War on Drugs". Business as usual in the black market.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:17 | 4692765 luckystrike6
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You know what I really don't get? How the fuck can you people back Cliven Bundy and not back the government in Kiev? You too dumb to recognize your own kind?

Oh well, just like white trash to vote against their own interests lol.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:16 | 4693019 Infinite QE
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Back the government in Kiev? Are you fucking for real? Have you been asleep through this whole sordid episode or are you talking your book so to speak? If so, here's some history for you:

 

1. Members of the neocon tribe spent $5 billion USD, $5 billion US taxpayer dollars, to destabilize the Ukraine, starts riots, sent in Mossad snipers to kill policemen who then turn on the crowd, shove a tribe member bankster in as PM and say they are the new govt. of Ukraine. All the tribe media throughout the world jumps on it and the cheers go around the world. Yeah...EVIL RUSSIA, EVIL RUSSIA, EVIL RUSSIA. Shit that a child could see through.

2. Then get the tribe-witch criminal out of prison, put her in a wheelchair to gain the most emotional reaction from the global goyem targets, touch up her halo-effect hairdo and have her start racist rants against Russians, calling for their extermination with nuclear weapons.

3. The rest of the Ukraine sees what's up, knows they are set to be raped and pillaged by the EU and NATO via the tribe oligarchs who's private jets have had the Kiev airport documented to be overloaded, say enough is enough, and one by one start siding up with Putin in order to protect themselves.

4. The neocons star freaking out and bring in Western Contractors, i.e. assasins to start fomenting more chaos.

 

Need I go on?

 

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:27 | 4693052 luckystrike6
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Wait, what happened to the Ukraine gov't being evil because they're neo-nazis? How the fuck, in your mind, can they be neo-nazis and Jews?

Also, it's absolute idiocy to say Mossad had anything to do with it, or that Timoshenko is Jewish. You're about as bad as that Klan member in Kansas City (who it turns out paid a black man for sex. The other BAHAHAHHAHHHHH moment of my day, I have to say. I've had two just explosive rounds of laughing between that and this Bundy idiot).

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:33 | 4693084 samsara
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Troll much?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:34 | 4693087 Infinite QE
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Sorry ace. The laugh track is on you. Even Israeli papers were bragging about their teams being the Ukraine. Look it up.

You believe that the government of Ukraine is run by neo-nazis when the neocons put them in power. Ha. Man, you are one dumb fuck if you believe that.

Timoshenko is jewish. Look it up.

Now go slaughter some Palestinians or whatever you do for your evening entertainment.

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:52 | 4693166 luckystrike6
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Link to whatever you're talking about. Sounds like complete bullshit. In any case, ZH repeatedly calls the new Ukraine gov't (and Right Sektor components) neo-nazis. I have no reason not to believe that, I assume it's probably true considering the history of Western Ukrainian support for nazis during WWII. And that's what the Russians are saying as well. So... if you have any proof of what you're saying go ahead and post it, but barring that you just sound like the kind of lunatic who'd blame Jews for anything and everything.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:06 | 4693212 Infinite QE
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This is my last go around with you on this topic as you seem to be deliberately uninformed. Who put Yats in power? The neocon lunatics. Who controls the government? The neocon lunatics. Did they hire thugs to do their dirty work who call themselves neo-nazis? That seems to be the facts as they are.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:18 | 4693231 luckystrike6
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Still not seeing any links.

So you think the Russians aren't doing what the neocons want?

In any case, neocon != Jew and, I don't see any information about Mossad being involved in anything in Ukraine. Show me the Israeli newspapers or whatever you claim you've read to that effect.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:24 | 4693263 luckystrike6
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Oh hah. Yes, I found your links on stormfront and the daily stormer. Is that where you get your news you raging nazi? The only link in any of the stormfront "articles" is to an Iranian government propaganda piece about an "ex-Israeli" being involved in the Ukraine uprising. Shocker.

There is NO news or information as you claim about Jews being involved, and in any case, I doubt they would be involved on the Ukrainian side as these are in fact neo-Nazis like yourself.

You should really be in Kiev helping your white brothers, but it's classic Jew-baiting to claim that the Jews caused the Nazis to come to power. And at the same time I suppose you blame Jews for the Russian invasion. Perfect logic, you can just blame everything on the "tribe".

Either show up with some real information or crawl back to your basement, nazi.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:16 | 4692767 22winmag
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Does anybody remember the scene in Swordfish where Gabriel (John Travolta) shoots the treasonous senator (Sam Shepard) through the heart?

Great movie... where is Gabriel when you need him?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:24 | 4692800 luckystrike6
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oh, I reckon he works for the FBI and he's sitting outside your house about now.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:25 | 4692799 Wait What
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Harry Reid is hilarious. It wasn't 7 days ago that I posted "speak freely but don't say anything implying violence or you're a terrorist." That he confirms I know how today's politicians think further serves to confirm that they are the parasitic, disingenous leeches I think they are as well. anyone who aspires or has ever aspired to political office should be jailed or put down immediately. they are the worst kind of humans in existance.

Fri, 04/18/2014 - 01:31 | 4672236 Wait What
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:37 | 4692854 EvlTheCat
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:46 | 4692894 luckystrike6
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Gandhi wasn't a racist idiot.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:49 | 4693711 Creeps
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You may need to do a bit of research on that statement.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:38 | 4692856 flacorps
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God forbid the man said something ignorant. That obviously deprives him of any rights whatsoever in the new Amerika.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:48 | 4692911 luckystrike6
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The man showed his true colors, and the colors of his followers, and Fox News, and all the idiots cheering him from home. And he hasn't been deprived of his rights for it. All that's happened is that a whole lot of people have seen what he stands for (which some of us already knew) and now they've got more information to judge whether he stands for the kind of shit we stand for.

For me, as a real patriot, the answer is no.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:39 | 4692858 Brokenarrow
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the new "normal": anyone that opposes or gets between a politician, his friends, or corporations from making money with impunity is a "criminal of domestic terrorist."

banks and their employees are immune from all law. Soon a banker will appear at your door and be able to demand sex with your wife or daughter. ALthough, they would prefer your sixteen-year-old son. Fuedelism is back. You just dont know it, yet.

Harry Reid has a deal with the Chinese that will enrich his son and he in Nevada. The media is too far in bed with govt to expose this.

By the end of this year, the usa will look more like North Korea than North Korea. I wish every patriot, especially those who have played by the rules for the last twenty years, the very best luck.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:46 | 4692892 luckystrike6
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I sure hope most patriots aren't as dumb as Cliven Bundy.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:19 | 4693261 james.connolly
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Cliven Bundy has more "BALLS" in his left toe than all the UNICORNS of ZH.

Clive Bundy's family has held this ranch for a zillion years, and in that part of the world anywhere that men ranch the land ride a horse, they're tough men, think rodeo's and riding bull's and getting shit faced drunk, but also they tend to read books, because the light's go off early and there are no bar's where a man lives +200 miles from the nearest town.

So I would argue that Clive Bundy is more like Hemmingway, a rennaisance man.

WRT to the black quote, I have hardly ever heard a soldier or a cop not say that the black was better off prior to to his slavery by government, before he was a slave to 'master', now he is a slave to the government and his master is "HARRY REID". There can only be one master to all the Negroe slaves and that be Harry Reid, and any DISS on him you die like a Branch Davidian.

It's time for a STAND, I certainly hope that 10's of 1,000's of men & women with GUN's will stand up at the BUNDY ranch, ... and then  we will have to wait and see if the US-MIL murders's their own, I suspect Obama will have to send in the UN or some non-US-MIL force to kill US citizens in mass.

>>>

Lastly, should a bunch of men make a stand, it would not be hard for 'Suterra' (Israel) to spray an iso-cynate pill on 50,000 people and delayed ingestion can be anything from shitty-pants to the 'gay-drug', there are so many 'social bio-toxins' now in the USA/ISRAEL drugstore that its unlimited what devilish thing OBAMA could do should 50,000 or more men make a stand, and the government has have to confront them directly just make them sick or crazy by DRONE delivered 'social bio-weapons'. Hell there are even bio-weapons that will drive men to kill each other.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:43 | 4693356 SilverIsMoney
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Don't forget. Thanks to the NDAA of 2012 all of us supporting this guy can be designated as terrorists as well and thrown away in a cell forever... for national security!

 

Land of slaves and home of the gutless... some of the comments here are fucking pathetic and I can only gather are from NSA trolls trying their best not to get people to realize the overwhelming amount of bullshit the Feds have put all these ranchers through as BEEF IS HITTING ALLTIME FUCKING HIGHS AND THE AMOUNT OF CATTLE IS AT 60 YEAR LOWS!

 

Jesus Christ almighty!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 05:34 | 4694236 luckystrike6
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hehehehh. I like how no one gets sarcasm here. It would be kinda fun to see what happened to all those real men if they got sprayed with the gay gas. They could re-enact Brokeback Mountain as a 10,000 part musical.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 09:07 | 4694780 forexskin
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aren't you late for your guest appearance at the NPR site?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:46 | 4692897 The Joker
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it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views...

because that's the government's job.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:54 | 4692943 luckystrike6
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Yes. That's the government's job. It always has been. Unfortunately, due to the number of uninformed assholes running around, it has to be this way.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 09:08 | 4694783 forexskin
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:58 | 4692956 ed31337
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Recall Harry Reid from office. Sign the petition here:

http://www.change.org/petitions/u-s-senate-recall-senator-harry-reid

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:00 | 4692961 muleskinner
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The Choctaw would hunt down runaway slaves and made a good living at the trade.

Everybody is prejudiced.

If Harry Reid were to wander down a dead end alley and see an old woman in a wheelchair, he wouldn't be threatened one eensy weensy bit.  If he were to happen to end up in an alley with a 6 foot 6 black man who would weigh 260 pounds, he would shit his pants.

He's a shithead and Cliven Bundy is a scapegoat.

You dumb fuckhead, Mr. Reid.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:04 | 4692974 espirit
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Fuck You, Harry Roid.

I can only hope one of your constituents "takes you out", and I don't mean to dinner.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:19 | 4692991 new guy
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It may be true that Mr. Bundy is not a nice man, but does that give the BLM (Harry Reid) the legal or moral authority to confiscate his property? Is Mr Reid suggesting that Mr bundy's rights are less important than any one else because of his opinions? This kind of character assasination coming from a US senator is pretty scary. Who will he go after next?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:21 | 4693035 zstard
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The issue is BLM's actions against Bundy and his cattle; not Bundy's opinions which he has a right to express - like them or not.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:22 | 4693037 arnoldsimage
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too bad the trolls fucked up a good website.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:31 | 4693072 jomama
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yearsbehind.com

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:23 | 4693040 Psquared
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I'm pretty sure Bundy is a racist. His comment that negroes were better off as slaves is telling. But that doesn't mean he is wrong. It just means he has a credibility problem ... much like the people against whom he has a standoff. (Feds - BLM)

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:34 | 4693088 ronsterizor
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IS HE GIVING EVERYONE THE FINGER?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:46 | 4693139 Truthy1
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Ain't no sunshine in his eyes...is there? It looks like Ruby Ridge II is in the works! He really believes what he says too! As far as him (Bundy) being a racist,that is hogwash. If you can't state what the Bible already has then we are a communist satanist country full of wussies that want to impinge on others what nature does not support. Live the truth or wallow in the Lies. Your choice, and I don't care what you do,just don't take everyone down with you or force your filth on us either. Square holes and round pegs have never worked out to well. One more thing Two negatives don't make a positive!! Live free or Die

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:56 | 4693160 NuYawkFrankie
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Hally Leed: I challenge you to a duel on Washington Mall

(Don't forget, leave the snipers home)

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:06 | 4693215 james.connolly
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The NRA actually supported Harry Reid. [ Drove good people to Gun Owners of America ]

Today the MSM is telling us that Rand Paul (AIPAC) has a 5 point lead over Hillary for President in 2016.

There is more than just shit being fed on this story.

Personally I would like to see a real Alamo, no reason 50,000 or more armed men cannot go to the BUNDY-RANCH and stand up against the assholes that control the US government and MSM.

Also those that stand-up need there own Media, this bullshit coming out of the status-quo has got to fucking go, and its not going to be FAUX (Fox News) that saves the day as FAUX is just another controlled opposition front for AIPAC, aka Sir Murdoch of Tel-Aviv.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:14 | 4693445 SmittyinLA
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NRA gave money to Difi too, Congress owns the NRA not vice versa, this is why the NRA doesn't take a stand against Mexican invasion, or the early release of thousands of hard core alien gangsters, the NRA is a "single issue entity" and that issue isn't protecting self defense rights, its funding Congressional elections with chump money.  

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:57 | 4693556 james.connolly
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Why NOT a peep on ZH that Rand Paul is 5 points ahead of Hillary the Bitch on the 2016 ticket for PRESIDENT?

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:59 | 4693746 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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We got a long way to go to 2016 and more pressing issues at hand than Randy Dandy playing prom queen.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:13 | 4693241 shutupnsing
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Gas Pocket!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:28 | 4693294 EscapingProgress
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Full remarks by Mr. Bundy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI#t=43

Obviously, not a racist.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:28 | 4693298 are we there yet
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What a big steaming pile of Harry Reid.  What a crock of Harry Reid.  It is time I go take a Harry Reid, before Harry Reid hits the fan.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:42 | 4693351 pupdog1
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Harry Reid is panicking now that the light of day has unveiled his corruption and criminality in the solar land scamming deal.

He is panicking, and has become comically Napoleonic.

Reid knows that his political career is over. He couldn't be elected dog catcher at this point.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:50 | 4693376 Aussiekiwi
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it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”

Perhaps Harry should have a careful think about how that statement might apply to others.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:22 | 4693464 californiagirl
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"He couldn't be elected dog catcher at this point." 

I wish, but I wouldn't underestimate the stupidity of voters.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:45 | 4693359 Tachyon5321
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In the video Bundy points out that mexican house holds have strong family units than white or other groups. I did not watch the whole tape, but saw nothing racists. Reid is off base once again.

 

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:56 | 4693395 stormsailor
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harry reid is just butt sore from the public ass fucking he is taking for his retarded and integrity challenged inbred son in a deal with the chinaman

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:16 | 4693431 Sathington Willougby
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Harry Reid you wonderful politician you.  Your immense power of reasoning knows no bounds.  Boiling the complex legal arguments of state and federal land ownership down to simple yet intrepid racism and class warfare trinkets to be worn in the most audacious of political concerns?  Your genius knows no bounds.  It's a wonder that you couldn't be born 100 years earlier so these amazing razor like powers could have settled the affair at the outset.  Well God only made one Harry Reid, so we have to cherish him while we can.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:11 | 4693433 californiagirl
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People like Reid and Pelosi are hateful racists.  How can they treat people objectively if they are constantly evaluating everything based on race.  It seems to occupy their thoughts constantly as it is often the first thing that pops out of their mouths. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:03 | 4693754 Spumoni
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They are NOT racist!!....

 

they hate everybody!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:27 | 4693442 knowshitsurelock
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Oh brother, playing the race card to make Bundy out to be racist?  How desperate can they possibly be, and how gullible can those following this be?

Lets get to the facts.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 states that the Federal Government CANNOT own land, except for post offices and such.  The Supreme Court backed this up in the landmark case in 1844, Pollard v. Hagan where, when a territory becomes a state, ALL LAND becomes state land. 

As soon as new states were formed out of the territory, "the power of the United States over these lands as property was to cease," wrote the court. Thus the provision requiring the people of Alabama to release all title to public lands to the United States, the court said "..would have been void and inoperative, because the United States have no constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty, or eminent domain, within the limits of a state, or elsewhere, except in cases in which it is expressly granted..." by the Constitution, such as the District of Columbia, land purchased by the federal government from a state with its consent, and land of a territory before it is divided into states.

Of the latter, said the court, "as soon as these purposes could be accomplished, the power of the United States over these lands was to cease."

In Nevada, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo states that the Fed's will HONOR the sovereignty of the original 13 states and, as soon as possible, take the territory ceded by Mexico and form soverign states.

The United States government pledged that the territory given up by Mexico "shall be formed into free, sovereign, and independent states and incorporated into the Union of the United States as soon as possible, and the citizens thereof shall be accorded the enjoyment of all the rights, advantages and immunities as citizens of the original states."

You see, the Federal Government has been lying, cheating and stealing forever, breached the trust when Nevada became a state, broke the original contract know as the constitution, and went against the Supreme Court.

So, fraud vitiates ALL CONTRACTS and renders them VOID from inception, and makes anything which follows null and void.  There is no statute of limitations of fraud.  The Feds have NO legitimate claim to any land in Nevada and have no authority to send snipers to collect on a bill which Cliven does NOT owe under contract, and has NO jurisdiction to rule in a Federal Court against a state citizen.

Come on now, the Federal Court decides that Bundy's cattle can be confiscated?  Anyone else see a conflict of interest when a Federal court rules for the Feds in a case?  That's like the fox guarding the hen house.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven, and Harry Reid is right in the middle of the dung pile, and were not talking about COW DUNG HERE.

Its about time people are saying. "Thats enough"

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:45 | 4693520 Pumpkin
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Great post there knowshit!  breached the trust You nailed it right there, government is a trust.  Every single employee of government owes every one of the people, a fiduciary duty.  That includes the duty of care, and the duty of loyalty.  To act against the interest of the people is a failure of that duty and is a tort (no immunity for failure of duty, it is outside the power and authority of government).  The tort is against the officer holder or employee in their seperate individual capacity, and also gets a jury trial.  Do it by common law, and any error goes back to the same court, and same jury.  The beast is revealing itself, and the Truth is beggining to return!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:37 | 4693673 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Very enlightning post. Whether Bundy is a racist or homo doesn't matter, it doesn't absolve them of this point. This should be harped on daily in every alt media outlet and ZH and not allow them to change the subject this time. This should also be emailed 100 times a day to Mr. Randy Dandy I support the Constitution Paul's office to remind company man of his duties and his father also and see if he follows up on the facts or really has been compromised now.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:17 | 4693450 Sages wife
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"It is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views"

"THAT'S OUR F**KING JOB!" - RIP George Carlin / LIVE in NY.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:37 | 4693501 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I haven't really looked into it but did NYT hit piece take his words out of context or did they publish the whole thing unedited?

With that said training snipers on an american citizen regardless of their views over desert tortoises and land grabs doesn't absolve that fact and of course this will be used to change the subject away from that. Keep it on topic people.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:41 | 4693511 ChickaBoom
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I think it would help if the Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. Dept. of Energy  would explain to the public why they are trying to aggressively remove Bundy's cattle from the Gold Butte area so that everyone is aware of the plans that are in store for six southwestern states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, and Utah). 

 I really doubt if they are going to do this, so I will try to give a short summary to explain their grand plans based on a BLM document that I have read called "Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone" that was published March 2014.  LINK

The DOE has identified 17 priority areas for utility-scale solar energy development (SEZ ~ Solar Energy Zones). Dry Lake SEZ in Nevada is the first project. In order to use this public land, the DOE has developed a "compensation plan" for loss of habitat, etc. (desert tortoise)

Since Gold Butte (Bundy area ~ see map) is ecologically similar and the best recipient location, this is where the BLM would like to "relocate" wildlife, weeds, turtles, etc. This transfer is referred to as "mitigation".  (Gold Butte is on page 30 of the report.)

The total cost of affecting the protection of this ACEC (Gold Butte) for 30 years, the expected term of solar development right-of-way, is about $9 million.

I'll stop here....more info in the report if you care to read it. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:59 | 4693522 jack stephan
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Fuck him....and fuck him again, I'm a racist, if your not rakim, kool g rap, wu, gangstarr, jus allah, or a few other producers, and maybe a few others I have a soft spot for then you suck, and you're trash. If you get live, ill probably smoke you. Don't be stupid, I like who I like, if you're not them, and you show off a big head, ill take your shit

Black dudes try to get huffy over shit that was in the past, motherfucker don't act like you sang love tko like teddy pendergrass when you nothing even close. Idiot

Harry you suck a million Chinese dicks, and all that loot tells me you wear knee pads I know women with more balls chump

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:56 | 4693534 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Also how many cattle did the BLM and DHS kill and how much property destruction did they cause on the Bundy ranch? I think eye for an eye is appropiate here. Little property destruction of some of their clown carriers maybe in order here. They threw the first punch.... They didn't have to kill his cattle or destroy property, they chose to do it. That should be unacceptable when they could have choosen otherwise. it was conscious choice, I was just following orders is unacceptable in a situation like this when they clearly didn't have to destroy his property to control the situation aka his cattle.

They have equipment all over the country and can't keep an eye on all of it all the time... Just don't harm any individuals in the process if anyone decides to do so.

 

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4693535 Last of the Mid...
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Go ahead and call me a racist cuz the shit that going to come out of my mouth when they come for my guns is gonna be foul. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:50 | 4693537 Pascal1967
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I second that ... FUCK YOU HARRY REID.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:55 | 4693552 james.connolly
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REPUBLICAN PARTY SELF EUTHANIZES

The REAL TITLE OF THIS POST SHOULD BE ..

"Republican Politicians Distance themselves from PATRIOTS"

Rand Paul was the first 'TEA PARTY'  Republican to come forward and support Harry Ried (NRA FAVORITE).

If ZH has anything left at all, and I think it doesn't then they should at the very least tell the truth about what is going on here, hell if this is the STAND that you all have been waiting for then what will be?

What needs to be seen NOW is to find REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS that step forward to SUPPORT the PATRIOTS.

If NOT, then this is the end of the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>>>

The 'racist' comment from Rand Paul, was handed to them by AIPAC as a justification to terminate this subject, and take it off the MSM news.

There should be now no doubt in anybodys mind, not even a unicorn that the DEM/PUG party's are SAME, and that Harry Ried and Rand Paul are siamese twins sharing a common asshole.

 

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:01 | 4693563 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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It should have been obvious Randy Dandy was nothing more than a company man the second he threw his own father under the bus and endorsed Mitt "The Twit" Romney in 2012.

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:08 | 4693579 falconflight
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AIPAC?  Bwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you fcking one celled shit germ.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:56 | 4693739 Spumoni
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Hell, I thought that was their mouth.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:06 | 4693577 falconflight
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Please someone incinerate the District of Contempt

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:13 | 4693599 falconflight
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We all know that the DemPervs and establishment Repubics are working hand in hand to destroy the TP. Well I just wrote my Congressman asking him does he support that fcking drip Beohner regarding immigation and whether he supports that fcking drip to continue as Speaker.  I'll vote DemPerv just to oust the repubics.  Let's have an openly one party system.  The GOP is worse than the putrid DemPervs.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:32 | 4693665 Loucleve
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“The bottom line is that elected officials and those in positions of power or influence have a responsibility to unite behind the basic principle that we are a country of laws..........

OH REALLY?  YOU COULDA FOOLED ME.  OBAMBI CHANGED OBAMBICARE HOW MANY TIMES?  GAVE EXEMPTIONS TO HOW MANY INTEREST GROUPS?

NOW HIS HIGHNESS HAS DECIDED WE WONT BE DEPORTING ANY MORE ILLEGALS UNLESS THEY ARE MASS MURDERERS.

IT SEEMS ITS THE LAW WHEN IT SERVES THESE FUCKERS NEEDS.  OTHERWISE, NOT SO MUCH.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:35 | 4693670 Gadfly
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"... it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”  Right.  But it's okay for governments like ours to do it, right? 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:41 | 4693682 yogibear
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Harry Reid is mr evil.

Good thing he wasn't a scientist. He might have made Josef Mengele look good natured.

Plenty of things that are not right about the guy.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4693699 Bill of Rights
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HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYTimes’ Deceptively Edited Version
Read more at http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoax-exposed-full-clip-of-cliven-bundys-non-racist-pro-black-anti-government-remarks-vs-media-matters-deceptively-edited-hoax-version-see-that-cliven-bundy-is-actually-an-advocat/#8ychLZLTG2K7vXlw.99 HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks Vs. NYTimes’ Deceptively Edited Version
Read more at http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoax-exposed-full-clip-of-cliven-bundys-non-racist-pro-black-anti-government-remarks-vs-media-matters-deceptively-edited-hoax-version-see-that-cliven-bundy-is-actually-an-advocat/#8ychLZLTG2K7vXlw.99

http://patdollard.com/2014/04/shock-hoax-exposed-full-clip-of-cliven-bun...

 

"Media Matters" involved with the edited version, I recalled that group is a Soros front.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:55 | 4693735 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Keep up the pressure and make sure it is spread far and wide.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:51 | 4693714 dizzyfingers
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Harry Reid anagrams:

Hairdryer
Hair Dryer
Harry Ride
Harry Dire
Hydra Err I
Hardy Err I
Yard Err Hi
Dray Err Hi
Rare Dry Hi
Rear Dry Hi
Hair Dry Re
Rah Dryer I
Rah Rid Rye
Rah Dry Ire
Harry Red I
Harry Id Re
Hay Rid Err
Air Dry Her
Ray Hid Err
Ray Rid Her
A Dry Err Hi
Ha Dry Err I
Ah Dry Err I
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:52 | 4693716 Spumoni
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"“To advance his extreme, hateful views, Bundy has endangered the lives of innocent women and children. This is not a game. It is the height of irresponsibility for any individual or entity in a position of power or influence to glorify or romanticize such a dangerous individual, and anyone who has done so should come to their senses and immediately condemn Bundy. For their part, national Republican leaders could help show a united front against this kind of hateful, dangerous extremism by publicly condemning Bundy."

 

What if we scratch out CB's name and substitute Hairy Reid's? Or any other sitting member of the bicameral governwhat from the WH on down?

 

and then there's:

 

"“The bottom line is that elected officials and those in positions of power or influence have a responsibility to unite behind the basic principle that we are a country of laws, and that whatever our differences, it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”"

 

change to:

 

"The bottom line  is that the morons in power have a responsibility which they have utterly forsaken, which is to administer a nation ruled by law and do their fucking jobs instead of grandstanding the bridge of a sinking ship. It is acceptable to use violence to remove these bastards when they push their radical views on the nation with no regard for the law." I'm pretty sure Thomas Paine said something similar in the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence. 

Oh, and by the way, Harry-wasn't it BLM that showed up with violence, guns and oppression? You're just another blowhard career politician with your own agenda. You suck, Harry.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:54 | 4693729 Dre4dwolf
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it is unacceptable for individuals to use violence or the threat of violence to advance their radical views.”

 

THATS WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES EVERYDAY!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:55 | 4693734 Yes_Questions
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fuck you Mr. Reid.  Politcs is a bitch, and you and your ilk show the bitch is y'all.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:04 | 4693745 Dre4dwolf
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Reid is just pissed off because Bundy might screw up all of Reids plans to sell all the Federal Land he stole with the help of the BLM, If reids plans go into motion, he will be a very VERY VERY rich man.... Bundy is getting in the way of Reids retirement plan ;P

All the land Reid has in the area should be confiscated and given back to the ranchers, none of Reids land was legally acquired, in the common sense of the law, he would go in to reorganize the land and update the records of the land holdings and he would cut himself a slice of land every-time.

You can see in the records for the county area that everytime the zoning changed for the BLM controlled land, the BLM parcels of land would shrink miraculously at the same time that Reids parcels of land would grow.

 

Reid was stealing land from the federal government in my opinion and the evidence is there to support it.

He thought he would get away with it forever because of the lack of oversight I think, and now that bundy is getting in the way of his plans he knows he could endup in jail or broke depending how big the public outcry is.

 

I think at the very least there needs to be a freeze on the whole situation while an outside independent investigation is conducted.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:03 | 4693751 dizzyfingers
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Harry Reid anagrams:

Hairdryer
Hair Dryer
Harry Ride
Harry Dire
Hydra Err I
Hardy Err I
Yard Err Hi
Dray Err Hi
Rare Dry Hi
Rear Dry Hi
Hair Dry Re
Rah Dryer I
Rah Rid Rye
Rah Dry Ire
Harry Red I
Harry Id Re
Hay Rid Err
Air Dry Her
Ray Hid Err
Ray Rid Her
A Dry Err Hi
Ha Dry Err I
Ah Dry Err I
Rah Dry Re I

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:18 | 4693792 TheObsoleteMan
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Yeah, it was the lead story on all of the major networks evening news; they aired a piece of what he said {taken out of context, as usual} to make him look like a racist. Now they are saying: YOU ARE A RACIST IF YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT BUNDY. They are trying to take the moral high-ground, and the media is in on it with the Feds. The good little stroll walking whores that they are, reading a script prepared for them to read by the corrupt Justice Department. Anyone with a shred of decentcy would have resigned from that cesspool after "Fast & Furious" came to light. Why isn't Eric Holder in prison? Nixon was brought down for ALLOT LESS. Many went to prison over Watergate. But the Repuklicuns just roll over. This tells me allot. Like there really is no "opposition party" anymore, they have merged into a supra government. That is why they also caved on the so-called budget impasse. I decided several years ago that I had voted for my last Repuklicun {besides Ron Paul}. And since I mentioned RP, there is another example of the one party system, the way his own party did him. They even re-districted him out of office because he would not play ball. Shame on Rand Paul for playing ball. Did you hear him denounce Bundy? Sorry Tea partiers, but Rand is just another one party man, except that he disguises it better than the others. He is trading on his father's name. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:19 | 4693996 james.connolly
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The PTB are scared shit-less, they know summer is here, and know the RED-NECK has nothing to lose, this is the last stand.

We either FIGHT on OUR FEET to our DEATH now, or we die on our knees sucking cock at a FEMA CAMP.

 

The PTB has drew the line in the SAND, that anybody who opposes 'big brother FASCISM' is  a RACIST, ... Yep, ... and we know so well how the USA GUBMINT loves to take care of people of color worldwide, with drones and fucking MURDER at weddings and funerals.

FUCK THE MEDIA, they are the ENEMY.

>>>

 

Where are the FUCKING POLITICIANS standing up for the PEOPLE?

There aren't any, they're all 100% owned by AIPAC.

 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:39 | 4693840 q99x2
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Recall Harry Reid for Treason.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:44 | 4693846 Bugman82
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Well, as ZH continues to lose its influence I guess the Tylers have become desperate enough to stand up for another version of a "freeloader" who has been refusing to pay for the use of land he doesn't own.  He signed the orginal paperwork that said there was great risk and that the reason the land was so cheap to rent from the government was because of that risk.  Then when the risk reveals its ugly head, it's time to bring out the guns.

Kind of ironic when so many ZHers argue for accountability in the market place but when accountability shows up for a conservative rancher who flaunts his guns it's government oppression.

Then Bundy says,

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro”... "They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

and when Harry Reid points out the obvious racism ZH goes wild...

The hypocrisy here is on the verge of insane.

 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:00 | 4693973 Manipuflation
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Taking a swing at ZeroHedgers are you?  It's a fair point that you made and well written post but you do not seem to be getting the larger picture.  Drag out all of the technicalities you want.  People are pissed off and we have guns and shitloads of ammo.  It is not all about one single event or Bundy.  It is about throwing an oppressive government off our back.  We have not forgotten Ruby Ridge or Waco and those who died there at the hands of their own state.   

You would do well to educate yourself on what happened at those places.  And no, it is not OK steal a man's cattle.  If that land is public than that means I own it it too.  I say let the man graze his cattle there.  I never heard Bundy say anything about race for that matter. 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:05 | 4693984 james.connolly
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The other thing forgotten here that when the BLM went into business these 'fees' were practically ZERO.

The FED wants to drive people off the land and into the city, this has been mission forever, then SELL the land to the rich so they can escape the city's.

The fact that BUNDY said "FUCK YOU" to the BLM, on the basis that the BLM has taxed him to the point that he will now lose the family farm is the fucking issue.

 

We either stand together or fall alone, the PTB (AIPAC) hates it when any of us RALLY together for a common man, not designated by the MSM.

Lastly, IMHO  zerohedge was always ALT, it was never mainstream opinion, and never did ZH exist simply to suck MSM cock, or eat AIPAC shit. ZH exists as we know to churn Google nickels, but that alone doesn't make them a whore to the PTB.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:24 | 4694001 Manipuflation
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Right on James.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 07:46 | 4694494 TheObsoleteMan
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What the BLM did is consistant with their agenda: Bringing forth Agenda 21 into reality. That is what this all is about, and little else {from their side}.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:15 | 4693993 james.connolly
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“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the AMERICAN-CITIZEN”... "The PTB abort their young children, the PTB put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to DO PHYSICAL WORK. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, WORKING and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

He is CLEARY here asking everyone a QUESTION, he took his 15minutes of FAME and directly has asked the PTB to defend APARTHEID in the USA.

Hell MALCOLM-X said the same shit in 1963, in his autobio.

>>

What if BUNDY had said this about the AMERICAN PEOPLE in GENERAL? THat  they're all slaves to the GUBMINT? THat they're all told to abort their children, that they would be better off back on the farm? Would it be racist then to apply this TRUTH to everyone?


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:30 | 4694008 Morla
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I doubt he could have phrased it more poorly if he tried, but from his ostensibly Christian perspective it's probably a valid question.. Family + Slavery vs Broken Family + Unemployment.. I don't know, but all the black guys dead or in prison thanks to the drug war are certainly not better off.

As a lazy agnostic I'd prefer the broken family and the subsidy, but considering where Bundy is coming from I don't see "obvious" racism here.. Especially considering that in the same rant he seems to place Mexicans *above* whites. Through the lens of Bundy's value structure it's *possible* that blacks were better off under slavery.

I personally disagree, apart from aforementioned imprisoned/dead black men, but I can see how Bundy's statement could make perfect sense to Bundy himself without him necessarily being a racist.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:44 | 4693853 NeedtoSecede
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I don't have much to add tonight, so  I should just keep my mouth shut, but I can't help myself.

Fuck you Harry Reid!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 00:00 | 4693873 esum
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investigate dirty harry and his entire family and friends.. and put him in prison where he belongs.... crony kcikback deals with BLM and others... far as remarks by bundy.... separate issue. actually what he said is pretty factual and if that's racist ... so what. i find reid and the fascist federal government offensive and unconstitutiional.. the feds violated the constitution by not ceding the land to the state of nevada at inception.. the land in question belongs to the state of nevada.... and the local sheriff is the law enforcement official, not the BLM... 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 00:27 | 4693922 james.connolly
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The MILITIA's are there and ready to fight.

Why is ZH not discussing this?

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nevada-range-war-20140425,0,6194816....

>>>

Then the LA-TIMES is also demanding that the PATRIOTS be MURDERED ASAP on PRINCIPAL

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-rancher-cliven-bundy-gra...

>>>

Every AIPAC GOON in the USA has been UNLEASHED to DESTROY BUNDY, thus BUNDY MUST BE GOOD :)

Politicians denounce Bundy's racist remarks
CNN (blog) - 11 hours ago

Glenn Beck: Cliven Bundy unhinged
Politico - 12 hours ago

Rand Paul slams Cliven Bundy's racist rant
Politico - 15 hours ago

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:18 | 4693986 steelrules
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A lot of you dumb bastards dissing Bundy don't know that the MSM is taking his words out of context and using it against him, I listened to him clarify his statement on the radio today. What he was basically saying "what the media twisted around" is that  Blacks have only traded one type of slavery to a master for another, through welfare and other programs to become slaves of the government, that life would and should be better for all Americans  blacks included through good jobs and a good family life. 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 01:48 | 4694028 PrawnStar
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This one is particularly alarming. Dirty Harry's propagandists think they have leveled up, and here's how: Use the word "Hate." The enemies of the state are not just racists, they are *hateful* racists. Bundy's actions are not extremism, they are *hateful, dangerous* extremism. Bundy's views aren't wrong, they are *extreme, hateful* views. So clearly subliminal man wants you to *hate* Bundy. Use the force, Luke. Don't give in to the darkness, stay with the light. I'm so disturbed that in today's America, the politics of hate have dropped all pretense and are just proud to lay it all out there and ask you to hate each other.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 09:07 | 4694779 Ariadne
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What does Harry Reid think affirmative action means? If Bundy was from Himeytown he would have said affirmative action and this wouldn't be an issue. If it happened in Illinois Bundy would have received a fish in his mailbox instead of a paramilitary occupation.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 03:00 | 4694067 Offthebeach
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What's happening with Harry Reids, allegedly, being a pedophile?
Just asking, you know. Not that anything, yet, has come out on Harry Reid is a pedofile.
Of course he hasn't publicly said he, Harry Reid wasn't a PEDOPHILE.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 03:10 | 4694069 Duke Dog
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Fuck all this Bullshit. The NYTs went up there and goaded him into an arena, if you will, that he has found himself too comfortable. I've seen/heard the audio of his "interview" - the NYT reporter asked him why more "ethnic groups" were not present. Bundy fell for it hook, line, and sinker. He has gotten the "spotlight" and it went to his head, IMO. I really like Bundy, but he should have kept his mouth shut.

I guess he didn't read, or understand Saul Alinsky's pamplets, which the NYTs uses for orientation booklets:

http://www.bestofbeck.com/wp/activism/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals

 

Edit: I despise Glen Beck btw, and unfortunately am too lazy to find another source of "Alinsky's rules", but it is very abundant with a search on FIREFOX.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 07:22 | 4694402 Montezuma
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Personally I think world would be better off if the Feds would send Predator drones and waste these mouth breathers, fucker and his inbred friend are basically terrorists and traitors. Clear the genepool from their influence. Dont people understand that this Bundy is nothing more than a thief and tax payer is the one paying his bills, yeah we dont like all the useless taxes like penis pumps for the retired or third useless engine to a useless plane that can hardly stay in the air, but we cant be picking an choosing.

And to ZH red necks who are thinking about taking their arms and going there, he doesnt aknowledge the US of A existing, what do you guys think Washington would do? A patriot can resist the existing ruling class or government but he cannot be patriot if you say your country doesnt even exist and believe me Federal Government is the core of the country, read your history.

How do you think the father of patriotism Washington would have handled the roque rancher? Hint, this dude would be swinging from the rope before you could say "git er done".

Ps. Its nice how the talk turned to Harry Reid, who is establishment douche and believes in magic underwear but still its funny to see how its easier to attack Reid than defend this "cowboy"

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 09:24 | 4694861 forexskin
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fine.

just realize you're next, for the reason of *whatever*

because they can.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 08:37 | 4698559 Montezuma
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So you think armed rebellion of not paying your taxes is "whatever" reason? Remember whiskey rebellion? I bet you are all for killing bunch of arabs somewhere? Half have been just civilians minding their business, here at leat everybody wants this. People always seem to forget the thing about defending against the domestic enemies too.

There are a plenty of good reasons to oppose (not with guns) the corrupt over extended gov, but smootching of the grass when every other ranchers pays up is NOT one of them.

 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 08:21 | 4694588 james.connolly
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BUNDY on Page 2, Beiber on Page 1, ... welcome to the Real ZH.

That's didn't take long, ... someone must have realized that having Bieber on Page 1, put's you in the top echelon of Google Ranking.

ABC Media is now targeting 12 year old girls to hang out on the ZH blog,... its' telling that content is changing.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 08:58 | 4694743 Ariadne
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Gus Mally MUST DIE

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