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Obama Signs Law Banning Himself From Entering The US

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

You just can’t make this stuff up.

A few days ago the President of the United States signed into public law bill S. 2195, now known as Pub.L. 113-100.

The law aims to “deny admission to the United States to any representative to the United Nations who has been found to have been engaged in espionage activities or a terrorist activity against the United States and poses a threat to United States national security interests.”

In other words, if the US government thinks that if you have been spying on the United States, then they won’t let you in the country.

Gee, let’s think for a moment– who has been engaging in espionage against the United States? Anyone?

Ah, right. The US government. Mr. Obama himself. The entire US intelligence network. They’ve all been engaging in espionage against the United States, especially its citizens.

But let us not forget, the law also bars entry for folks who have engaged in terrorist activity against the United States.

Just so that we don’t mince words, my dictionary defines terrorism as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Once again, the US government. Violence? Check. Intimidation? Check.

The government has awarded itself the power to hold people indefinitely without trial under military detention, assassinate US citizens by drone attacks, or use tax authorities to harrass political opposition groups.

The Department of Homeland Security is working to purchase 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (and counting), enough to maintain a shooting war within the US for 22 years.

And local police departments are trading in their light blue uniforms for black paramilitary attire, combat boots, automatic assault rifles, and armored vehicles.

The whole place has become a giant police state where you can’t even apply for a passport anymore without being threatened with fines and imprisonment.

When the Republic was founded, there were three federal crimes listed in the Constitution: treason, piracy, and counterfeiting.

Today the number of laws, codes, and regulations is astounding. It is a federal crime, for example, to knowingly make a false statement to a federally insured bank.

(Naturally, though, banks can lie through their teeth and defraud their customers with impunity…)

Not to mention, there are hundreds of federal agencies as innocuous as the Fish and Wildlife Service which have gun-toting police forces to kick down doors and throw people in jail.

The government doesn’t rule with the consent of the governed. They rule through fear, intimidation, and threats of violence. They spy. They deceive. They steal.

So you can probably appreciate the irony and arrogance of the President signing this new law which bars spies and terrorists from entering the country.

The entire notion is so absurd, it’s like Barack calling the kettle black. And technically speaking he has just legally banned himself from being in the Land of the Free.


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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:08 | 4692520 DoChenRollingBearing
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Ha ha ha.  Obama = hypocrite

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:12 | 4692540 Gen. Keith Alexander
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Well... guess I'm stuck in Bermuda...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4692654 falak pema
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at least you get to wear your shorts.

If you were in Cuba you would be water boarded. 

In Cuidad you would be shot with cocaine on sight. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:13 | 4693441 old naughty
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"A few days ago..."

Can we get the we remember it happened (like 422 stuff)?

You just can't make this \funny/ stuff up !

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:51 | 4693713 cowdiddly
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Does this mean Clapper can't ever leave the country again and if he does he can't be allowed back in?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:49 | 4692675 SILVERGEDDON

The best part is - Snowden is safe.

He can't get back into the USA for prosecution. 


Fucking roole making dipshits weren't thinking too hard on this one......... 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:43 | 4692880 onewayticket2
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Well, that's one way to get a divorce.


enjoy Fukishima, barry.  


ps.  say hi to reggie.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:09 | 4692990 Youri Carma
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A man was reported to have said: "Obama is a moron!" and was arrested by a policeman. "No, sir, I meant not our respected President, but another Obama!" - "Don't try to trick me: if you say "moron", you are obviously referring to our President!"
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:12 | 4692542 fonestar
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Even fonestar was denied entry into the US once (ironically, by a DHS agent wearing a big Masonic ring) so don't feel bad Barry!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:18 | 4692564 813kml
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Did they find the USB drive jammed up your ass?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:27 | 4692601 fonestar
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It's what was stuck up fonestar's other serial bus that gave them pause...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:32 | 4692623 813kml
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The catheter that allows you to never leave your comfy chair while you corner the BTC market?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:37 | 4692628 lordylord
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When government lies, steals, murders, and breaks the law (which is all the time), it isn't called lies, theft, breaking the law and murder.  It's called press releases, taxes, standard operating procedures, and spreading democracy.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:39 | 4692651 Rainman
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How y'all likin that old Patriot Act now !?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:54 | 4692690 goBackToSleep
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pretty sure all the patriots made the list.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:08 | 4692521 Big Corked Boots
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Laws are for little people, don' ch'a know?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:17 | 4692560 813kml
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On the bright side, it looks like DC gridlock has eased up a bit.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:29 | 4692605 JuliaS
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Laws are made to protect the lawmakers from law-abiding citizens.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:37 | 4692779 Ignatius
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The author Douglas Valentine related how he went to his local FBI office in Springfield, MA and asked to talk to an agent.  He asked them to define "Terrorism".  When he got his answer he pulled up the NYT and asked "why aren't you obeying the law and arresting these CIA agents referred to in the article for terrorism?"  The agent got flustered and referred him to Boston.  Boston got flustered and referred him to DC.  After some back and forth the FBI finally stated in an email that "the FBI has no authority over the CIA."

The FBI knows full well that the CIA engages in terrorism. 

Step aside, Orwell.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:31 | 4692618 Confused
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This is interesting. How do they intend to prove that one has been spying? This is one of those situations (seemingly) where they can accuse anyone of spying, thus denying entry to anyone. 


Unless I read this incorrectly. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:33 | 4692630 Confused
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When the Republic was founded, there were three federal crimes listed in the Constitution: treason, piracy, and counterfeiting.


To your point, these are commited daily. But those that commit these crimes hold themselves above the law. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:10 | 4692526 thatthingcanfly
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If you like your President deported, you can keep your President deported.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:14 | 4692548 McMolotov
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I like my fascist president the way I like all fascist presidents — hanging from the roof of an Esso gas station.

cc: NSA

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:37 | 4692646 WillyGroper
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i use BCC: NSA on my email.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:42 | 4693850 SilverTech
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You're seriously asking for a visit from the Secret Service.

Oh no, now I probably am too for communicating with you. Shit

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:10 | 4692530 McMolotov
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The entire notion is so absurd, it’s like Barack calling the kettle black.


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 03:25 | 4694020 intric8
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:10 | 4692531 NOZZLE
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what's to spy on,  how to flush  a republic down Cloacus Maximus in 10 easy steps by electing elitist idiots and affirmative action clowns to the halls of government

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:10 | 4692532 Relentless101
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Law banning Obama from US. There is a GOD!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:11 | 4692533 Nevsky
Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:11 | 4692537 mrjig27
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Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:20 | 4692569 hobopants
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You got that right. Never before has the phrase "Full Retard" been more apt. 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:13 | 4692544 fonzannoon
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I nominate LOP for the citizens arrest.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:15 | 4692550 yrbmegr
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Well, Simon, you made it up.  All the law did was add terrorist activities to the offenses that would get you banned.  Espionage was already in the code, and that did not change.  And equating law enforcement with terrorism is certifiable.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:19 | 4692568 Seer
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It's a slow day... (can always tell by the increase in articles attacking political entities- today it's Omaba and Reed; I'd like to say that I can't wait to see if ZH is consistent with the other side of the coin takes the throne and is doing the exact same thing, but I really don't care all that much)

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:26 | 4692596 yrbmegr
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Well, I'm still waiting for the "Cliven Bundy Was Wrong" post.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:35 | 4692639 Seer
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Depends on the outcome he is wanting.  Knowing that the US govt (as are all govts) are about tax collection and violence then there can ONLY be one of two outcomes:

1) Death;

2) Pay up.

I don't care whether people don't like to hear this.  This is reality. I didn't make the rules up.  And until others are willing to get off their lazy asses and go out and alter this outcome- STFU (I'm tired of all the raging cowboys whining about everything and then doing nothing [but whining about others not doing anything).

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:07 | 4692664 yrbmegr
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Indeed.  I come at it from a legal perspective, which is that his family didn't buy the ranch until the 50's (the 1950's that is), after the BLM came into existence, and Congress set the rules for the entire country by legislation in 1976, over-legislating any prior conflicting legislation.  And then there's Light v. U.S., a 1911 Supreme Court case almost directly on point that says the federal government can own land, can charge people to use it, and can exclude people if they trespass, just like any landowner.

So, Bundy is just wrong here, like Glenn Beck and Greta Whatshername say.  And I'd like to see a Tyler post it.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:37 | 4692645 Seer
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Down-arrowed by the Party Pussies: keep flagging you fucking pussies, demonstrate how large your numbers are here.  Never could have imagined...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:40 | 4692656 Seer
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Even IF you provide proof (hint: link) people here already have their minds made up.  It's the Dancing With The Stars mentality, the mindset even exists here on ZH...  Dumb fuckers will think that you're defending Obama (when it's clearly not the case)...  well no one said that Party Pussies were very smart.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 23:49 | 4693859 Zero Point
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The left/right paradigmers are a strong force. I think we're ALL guilty of falling back to it at some point or other, even knowing what it is.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:15 | 4692551 Overfed
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Best thing ever penned by Simon Black.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:17 | 4692558 alien-IQ
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Israel is exempt from this "law"?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:48 | 4693370 Riprake
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Nope. It just doesn't apply to them because Israelis aren't guilty of any of the crimes this law covers, whereas the Islamofascist Paleo-Nazi Jordanians and Egyptians illegally squatting on Israel's land and the swastika-humping jackbooted "anti-Zionist" goose-steppers who support them are.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:18 | 4692561 pods
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Let's be frank, the US is on the downward slide of the empire curve.

The laws (statutes) of the land are already so numerous that nobody can possibly know them all.

Our debt is skyrocketing, cities are in shambles and wealth has been plundered.

Things are getting desperate, and teh government moreso.

There is no way that they can pull off this water landing @500 knots coming in at a 45 degree angle.

Just prepare as best as you can and remember that when the ballon goes up, it is too late to start preparing.

I might suggest johngaltfla's "Dollar Died" series. A very good read to brush up on the possibilities.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:21 | 4692571 Seer
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Yeah, but other than that don't you think things are going really well? </sarc>

I'm going to laugh when it hurts (better than cyring I suppose).

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:27 | 4692600 pods
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Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

The Dollar Died series is much happier than watching The Road at least?


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:34 | 4692631 fonzannoon
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Pods did you know this area at all when you lived in upsate NY? It's the new Brooklyn smell your own farts destination.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:41 | 4692659 pods
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Nah, grew up to the west (Binghamton) but IIRC there wasn't a whole lot up there till you hit Albany.

My skin started to crawl reading about how "hip" it is though:

"Also, as he pointed out, there is no group more self-consciously activist and devoted to giving back than the “Upper West Siders and East Villagers and Brooklynites” who are moving here. “They are almost painfully conscious about giving back and fitting in,” he said."

The locals there must just love the hip new activists!  Sounds a lot like Ithaca though.  Well without the lakes and colleges.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:45 | 4692671 fonzannoon
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I like Binghamton, well driving through anyway. Always see some dudes fishing off rt 17. Looks peaceful.

As for the new neighbors in the Hudson.....

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:53 | 4692689 pods
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Years ago that could have been me fishing. The Susquehanna (Iroquois for muddy shithole) has some of the best Muskie and Smallmouth fishing around!

In Bingo proper now you cannot fish in most places unless you like drunks and thugs from what I have seen lately.  Further downstream (Endwell) it is nice.  Been away long enough to see how bad things have gotten, and it is sad.  Was a great place a while back.



Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:20 | 4692780 Ralph Spoilsport
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"The Susquehanna (Iroquois for muddy shithole)"

You should see the Susquehanna where it dumps into Chesapeake Bay after Pennsylvania gets done with it. Well, maybe not see, but smell.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:21 | 4692570 agent default
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It is called selective enforcement, which is where the real power of government.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:25 | 4692585 Ariadne
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Its not all bad. The State Department, Bloomberg, AIPAC, Fuckerberg, Hanoi Jane and Ted Turner are shut out too. I suppose we need 2 new parties.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:25 | 4692588 Yen Cross
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Obama Signs Law Banning Himself From Entering The US.

 Shit, the getting in part is easy...It's the getting out part that's a bitch!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:26 | 4692594 Son of Captain Nemo
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With an NDAA and a "pen" anything is possible!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:27 | 4692602 dimitar
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It`s time UN to leave US

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:30 | 4692611 JuliaS
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There's a fine print:

... unless one carries a Nobel Peace Prize.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:03 | 4692722 unrulian
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isn't Putin nominated this year?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:30 | 4692613 lesterbegood
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“To Whom It May Concern”
Worldwide Banks & “Governments” Foreclosed

A two-year investigation by The One People’s Public Trust (OPPT) discovered the massive fraud that
‘banks’ and ‘corporate government’ have systemically perpetuated against the people of the entire world over many decades.

OPPT’s final report concluded that a debt slavery system had been deliberately set up by the heads of the banks and corporate governments, and whether we realized it before or not, this system gradually entrapped almost every human being on earth for the duration of their life.  The report also concluded that the existing system could not be fixed and that a new legal landscape had to be created to free the people of the earth from debt slavery. (Report

So, using the same legal process that the banks, corporations and corporate governments have always
used to ‘foreclose’ on unsuspecting individuals, OPPT lodged various commercial filings during 2011,
2012 and 2013, using what is called the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC).  The banks and corporate government entities were given plenty of time and opportunity to ‘rebut’ the filings, but to date no rebuttals have ever been registered and so the UCC filings were accepted as Rulings and therefore, came into existence as global law.

The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) is the ‘bible’ of ALL commerce and is used worldwide by high-level banking and government corporations to manage and govern their transactions and commercial behavior at an international level. Sadly, ‘UCC’ is not taught in law schools so most lawyers, attorneys and magistrates know nothing about UCC and will argue it has no application.  However, given the usage of UCC filings in the upper levels of “government” and banks worldwide, due diligence and working knowledge of the UCC is a necessity.   UCC Resources:

After the investigation was completed, the OPPT made two very important conclusions that were set out in the original UCC filings:? 1. that they (the banks and corporate governments) had by deceptive acts and practices been stealing from the people for hundreds of years, and; 2. nothing stood between
the Creator and each of the Creator’s creations.

The banks and governments were given due opportunity to rebut both statements, which they could not and therefore did not:  (See Declarations of facts and allegations of wrong-doing by banks and corporate governments: ) As a result, on December 25,
2012, OPPT announced the foreclosure of the world’s banks and corporate governments with their first
Public Announcement  and first Press Release (Feb
4, 2013): Foreclosure-on-Major-Corporations in accordance with global commercial law established through the UCC filings registered by OPPT.
You can find the documents listed here at the Washington DC UCC Registry:  (Free Login UN: OPPT PW: opptiuv )

Refer: TRUE BILL: WA DC UCC Doc# 2012114776 - Oct 24 2012
Bank Charters Cancelled:?
“Declared and ordered irrevocably cancelled; any and all charters for Bank of International Settlements (BIS) members thereto and thereof including all beneficiaries, including all certain states of body owning, operating, aiding and abetting private money systems, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems, operating SLAVERY SYSTEMS ...commandeering lawful value by unlawful representation...”

Refer: DECLARATION OF FACTS: UCC Doc # 2012127914 - Nov 28 2012
Government Charters Cancelled:
“...That any and all CHARTERS, inclusive of The United States Federal Government, UNITED STATES, “STATE of ...", Inclusive of any and all abbreviations, idem sonans, or other legal, financial or managerial forms, any and all international equivalents, inclusive of any and all OFFICES, inclusive of any and all OFFICERS, PUBLIC SERVANTS, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, TREATIES, CONSTITUTIONS, MEMBERSHIP, ACTS, and any and all other contracts and agreements made thereunder and thereby, are now, void, worthless, or otherwise cancelled, unrebutted; ...”

All beings now act in the capacity of individual entities without a corporate safety net and with full personal liability for each and EVERY ACTION THEY TAKE under common law, protected and preserved by public policy UCC 1-103, and Universal law, the governing law laid out in the OPPT UCC filings. (Refer: WA DC UCC Ref Doc # 2012113593). Should any individual pursue any actions on behalf of a foreclosed Bank or “Government”, causing another individual any damage as herein described, they in their individual and unlimited capacity are absolutely liable. Such actions may result in the receipt of a Courtesy Notice.

The Courtesy Notice contains the information of this flyer and offers terms and conditions for any future dealings an agent of a foreclosed entity may wish to have with you.   Individuals are now downloading and sending Courtesy Notices worldwide; 64,000 were downloaded in the first two days following release in early Feb 2013. (See
Share your Public Notices here:

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU? All People Declared Free of Debt
The final filing of the OPPT occurred on March 18, 2013. This document terminated all remaining man- made entities and returned all people of this planet to absolute freedom. In this document the creator is referred to as "absolute essence" and all creation’s people are referred to as "absolute essence embodied".  Article VI states..."I duly verify, with full responsibility and liability, by DECLARATION OF ORDER, that eternal essence IS made transparent and known by the DO'ing of any and all embodiment
of eternal essence in eternal essence's universe, IS free and free of debt, unrebutted."

This means THERE IS NO DEBT.? You have no debt... No one has debt... it is done.  This includes your mortgage, credit card and car or student loan. There is simply NO MORE DEBT.

Radio shows:

Debt Slavery Rulings
You probably did not know that the following have been filed by banks and corporate governments to
give them ‘ownership’ of your body and labor.

1. Executive Order 13037 dated 04 Mar 1997 defined humans as capital. See:

2. UCC Doc # 0000000181425776 filed 12 Aug 2011 evidences sale of US citizens in transaction between The Federal Reserve System and The United States Department of the Treasury 1789 for $14.3 trillion. (Linked above)

3. UCC Doc #2001059388 evidences the template the Federal Reserve Bank of New York uses to secure the collateral in major banks around the world... including chattel paper, goods and the unborn young of animals. (See )

Countries and ‘Governments’ Are Just Corporations, on the USA Stock Exchange and Dun & Bradstreet Go to and search for your country under “More Options” using either 8888 (Foreign Government ) or 8880 (American Depositary Receipts) as the SIC code.  There you can research your country as a registered company on the USA Stock Exchange.
You can even review your country’s Annual Report. Go to this List of Duns Numbers for US Corporate Governments and you can see many US federal, state and local governments listed with their business Dun and Bradstreet identification number.

Orders to Cease and Desist:
Attention is drawn to DECLARATION AND ORDER: UCC Doc # 2012096074, Sept. 09 2012, duly reconfirmed and ratified by COMMERCIAL BILL UCC Doc. No. 2012114586 and TRUE BILL UCC Doc. No.2012 114776 which states:

Volunteers within the military ... “to arrest and take into custody any and all certain states of body, their agents, officers, and other actors, regardless of domicil by choice, owning, operating, aiding and
abetting private money systems, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems, operating SLAVERY SYSTEMS against the several states citizens, ...”, and “Repossess all private money systems, tracking, transferring, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems operating SLAVERY SYSTEMS...”

“...all beings of the creator shall forthwith assist all Public Servants identified herein, to implement, protect, preserve and complete this ORDER by all means of the creator and created as stated herein, by, with, and under your full personal liability...”

Because a CEASE AND DESIST order exists, you are free to offer terms and conditions to individuals
acting on behalf of a foreclosed Bank or “Government”, by issuing a Courtesy Notice.

Websites:                              ...          

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:44 | 4692655 Tenshin Headache
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You planning to copy and paste that crazy drivel to EVERY post?

Please don't.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:51 | 4692686 Emergency Ward
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NOTICE OF DECLARATION OF ABSOLUTE TRUTH.... lesster is a fucking Spammer.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:54 | 4692692 yrbmegr
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A few quibbles with your post.  "The" Uniform Commercial Code is a model code, not actual law.  What is actual law are the various state laws (in the United States) implementing the Uniform Commercial Code...but not exactly.  To my knowledge, no state has adopted the Uniform Commercial Code exactly as written.  They have all made some change, however, minor.  So, you can't just go by "the" Uniform Commercial Code, as such.  You need to know the state laws you are subject to.  Finally, UCC is taught in law school, at least in the United States, and state UCC's show up in most bar exams, in one way or another.  I don't know about UCC in other countries, but I suspect deviations from the model code expand outside the United States.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:41 | 4692660 Tenshin Headache
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If every other member of the United Nations passed such a law, it would block travel by Powers and other US officials to any of them.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:42 | 4692662 SilverIsMoney
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Pssshhh dont you guys know by now federal employees and bankers are exempt from all laws!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:42 | 4692665 kurt
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Release the Hounds

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:43 | 4692668 BigRedRider
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Obama Signs Law Banning Himself From Entering The US"


It'll never fly.  Why?  Because Obama is above the law.  But everybody knew that.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:45 | 4692670 Smiley
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That guy doesn't give a damn what he signs.  He's a sock puppet doing what he is told and reading what is put in front of him.  If you don't like the hypocrisy, the IRS would like to review a few details of your financial history.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:51 | 4692682 JR
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Now it’s not only Edward Snowden who's being hunted down for espionage, but it’s any member of the UN who might be involved in espionage activities against the United States -- such as determining if they, too, or their country is being spied upon by the United States.

Glenn Greenwald explained the Espionage Act charges against Snowden in 2013, asking: “Who is actually bringing ‘injury to America’: those who are secretly building a massive surveillance system or those who inform citizens that it’s being done?"  

Wrote Greenwald: 

“The US government has charged Edward Snowden with three felonies, including two under the Espionage Act, the 1917 statute enacted to criminalize dissent against World War I.

“Prior to Barack Obama's inauguration, there were a grand total of three prosecutions of leakers under the Espionage Act (including the prosecution of Dan Ellsberg by the Nixon DOJ). That's because the statute is so broad that even the US government has largely refrained from using it. But during the Obama presidency, there are now seven such prosecutions: more than double the number under all prior US presidents combined. How can anyone justify that?”

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:02 | 4692702 Suigeneris
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Long time reader of Zerohedge here but first ever comment... The reason I'm commenting is because I don't think the author is properly representing this law. I have a JD but you don’t need one to read that the law is applicable to UN reps only. So to say "In other words, if the US government thinks that if you have been spying on the United States, then they won’t let you in the country" is simply not accurate unless "you" are a UN rep.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:02 | 4692720 Nevsky
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Could be wrong but that appears to be precisely the point of Mr. Simon's post - legislating the standards [for others] that would condemn the very people who create and sign them.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 20:34 | 4693323 Suigeneris
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I see what you mean but strickly from a legal prespective, the law is written to apply only to "representatives to the UN" which are a handful of individuals from UN member nations. So personally, I just don't see how it can ever be expanded to apply to US citizens or legislators that sign this bill into law unless of course a court categorizes US citizens or legislators as "representatives to the UN" which just doesn't make sense.  


With that said, I think we're all (including the author) missing the point here. The right question to ask is "why would we want this bill?" and "what is the end saught for which this bill establishes the legal means" 

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:59 | 4692962 EvlTheCat
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fuck the U.N.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:58 | 4697848 capitalkid
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You're in good company.  It's refreshing to see someone else paying attention. I too am a long time reader, and this is only the second article I have posted to in the 4 years I've had an account.  I logged in to write a post making precicely the same point:

The subjects in question here are United Nations representatives ... not "anyone entering the USA".  This means the 192 people, and potentially their staff, that fly in to NYC for a UN meeting.  Last I checked, Obama was the POTUS, not the US Ambassador to the UN ...


The author severly misrepresented the facts.  I'm assuming he simply misread the word "Nations" for "States".  In any case, it's a shitty law.  How would the US like it if United Nations meetings were held in China and China passed a similar law barring UN representatives that may have spied on China from entering China ...

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 17:59 | 4692709 One of We
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Next thing ya know they'll make it illegal to gulliotine bankers and burn congresscritters and presidents with hot oil.  Who gives a fuck?

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:04 | 4692725 dumbStruck
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Only un representitives are being denied access. This is aimed at Iran but could probably be applied to almost any country in the world on the shit list list of the too rich to vote out.

"deny admission to the United States to any representative to the United Nations"

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:26 | 4692806 Catullus
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Yeah or other members of the security council. Like Russia.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:11 | 4692752 The Joker
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Hate to nitpick but...

The Department of Homeland Security is working to purchase 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (and counting), enough to maintain a shooting war within the US for 22 years.



IF it ever happens it will be a bloodbath, and a fast one at that.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:11 | 4692753 trader1
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damnit ZH!

another headline that seemed wtf, so i clicked.  

now, i see a piece by simon black.  


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:30 | 4692824 viator
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Keynes is old school, this is the age of Piketty (Marx lite).

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 18:54 | 4692941 EvlTheCat
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Fuck the United Nations

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 19:23 | 4693042 theprofromdover
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Well, if whoever is in charge of the UN these days (is it still boutros boutros boutros?), they would move the whole operation offshore immediately, I guess unless it is a completely vacuous and corrupt organisation.

I'm sure when the UN was offered NewYawk for its HQ, there were statutes put in place saying this was international land and US would guarantee the safe passage of all foreigners to reach it.

Bronco, stick to golf.


Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:17 | 4693449 XitSam
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Simon Doesn't Get It.

The 'United States' IS the government. Everything within the government, nothing outside the government, nothing against the government.  Spying on serfs that occupy the land the government owns, is not spying!

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 21:32 | 4693485 1000924014093
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They meant spying on the  US government, not spying on the US people.

Thu, 04/24/2014 - 22:51 | 4693712 El Hosel
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Excellent, Hey Barry, Get out and stay out.... Bitch.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 00:23 | 4693914 damicol
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Excellent,, Does that now give any patriot carte blanche to shoot this cunt in the face if spotted on US soil and ask questions later.


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 04:22 | 4694109 Element
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1. the act or practice of spying.
2. the use of spies by a government to discover the military and political secrets of other nations.
3. the use of spies by a corporation or the like to acquire the plans or technical knowledge of a competitor: industrial espionage.

Noun 1.

espionage - the act of keeping a secret watch for intelligence purposes.



That's the blackest talking kettle in history.

The hypocritical utter buffoonery and appalling incompetence continues ... what's next? ... a "Ministry of Silly Walks"?

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