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Russian "Doomsday Plane" Spotted Flying By Finland Border

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The last time the Russian "Doomsday Plane" was seen in the air doing its trademark loops at 27,000 feet telegraphing Vladimir Putin was somewhere nearby, was on March 31, just days after the formerly Ukrainian region was annexed by the Kremlin. Until today, when over the past 4 hours, the Tu-214 has been quietly circling in position just shy of Finland and the Baltics, where as it is known, NATO has been depositing hundreds of western soldiers in a "defensive" build up.

What is the "Doomsday Plane"? Here is a reminder:

The Tupolev Tu-214SR is a Russian Special Mission Aircraft believed to act as a communication relay aircraft. This kind of aircraft is often dispatched by the Russian Air Force to accompany Putin’s presidential aircraft on its travels and for this reason it is considered the Russian version of the U.S. E-4B, a so-called “doomsday” plane, with an airborne command and control role.


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America isn't the only superpower with a "Doomsday Plane" for its head of state. When Russian President Vladimir Putin needs to escape danger, he hops aboard this top-secret flying communications center.


A special missions variant of the Tupolev Tu-214 commercial transport aircraft, the Tu-214SR is Russia's answer to the US E-4B, an airborne command and control plane built specifically for the Russian president's use and considered successor to the Ilyushin Il-20 Coot, which has been in service for the better part of four decades. Produced by Aviastar SP and Kazan Aircraft Production Association, the twin-engine, long-endurance jet can carry 62 passengers with comparable range and speed to a Boeing 757. But unlike the Boeing, the Tu-214SR is packed to the gills with cutting-edge sensor and communications equipment.


While significantly less is known about capabilities of the 214SR than the E-4B , we do know that it carries an MRC-411 multi-intelligence payload, which includes electronic intelligence (ELINT) sensors, side-looking Synthetic Aperture Radar (to spot incoming air threats from long range), and a variety of Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Communications Intelligence (COMINT) equipment. Four onboard generators provide ample amperage while a set of external fuel tanks allow the plane to remain aloft for trips up to 10,000 km.


The two such 214SRs entered service in 2008 with the Presidential Special Applications Squad and are operated by a crew of four. However, the plane was only declassified last year when it made its public debut at the Moscow Air Show. Since then, it's been spotted in the skies above both the Sochi Olympics, and more recently—and ominously—in Crimea.

Why was the Doomsday Plane circling so close to the Baltics today of all days, and is this nothing but a welcome sign from Russia to the NATO build out in Eastern and Central Europe? And does it indicate that Putin was - as he usually does - either traveling in the vicinity, or is it an omen of something more ominous? 

As can be seen on the image below (courtesy of Flightradar24), after circling for hours just east of the Finland border, it is now en route to land back in St. Petersburg, from where it took off several hours ago.


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Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:26 | 4696047 inevitablecollapse
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ominous omen???

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:30 | 4696069 kliguy38
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Nahhh......unless you call Dick Cheney taking a joy ride to see if he can find another heart in some unsuspecting Baltic kid.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:36 | 4696099 StacksOnStacks
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Probably just forgot the Vodka and couldn't decide on whether they should go all the way back for it or not.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:47 | 4696155 Tao 4 the Show
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Or, loopy behavior suggests they remembered it, drank too much, and forgot the way back.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:51 | 4696181 ParkAveFlasher
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Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:54 | 4696194 Tao 4 the Show
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On a less inebriated note, this thing is essentially a game of chicken. The best to hope for at this point is for both sides to claim a partial win so they have grounds for more posturing, ad nauseum. Else, the stakes are high for an actual confrontation.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:57 | 4696209 ParkAveFlasher
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I propose a joint venture between the US and Russia - yes we can be friends - to conquer those a-hole Canadians, once and for all.  You know they're behind this.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:09 | 4696269 graneros
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We are still at DefCon 5 status which is the lowest.  We were at DefCon 2 for a brief time during the Cuban missle crisis 62.  You'd think we'd at least be 4 by now. If I were rating I'd say we have already entered or are at least very close to DefCon 3.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:17 | 4696313 cougar_w
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You actually think they'll telegraph something like that in the era of Twitter?

We'll still be at DefCon 5 even as the Chinese are coming ashore in Portland.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:25 | 4696359 knukles
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There is going to be no Draw. 
This will be ground out until Obie & Cie fail to even issue a memo.
For example.  Today it was announced by the Warthouse that the US, Germany and France are coordianting efforts to deal with Russia.

Read that again.
Where're the rest of NATO, the UK?
They're announcing coordination.
Shaking uncontrollably! 

Putin is peeing in the West's pants and laughing manically...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:44 | 4696449 gmrpeabody
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"We'll still be at DefCon 5 even as the Chinese are coming ashore in Portland"

They're already in Portland...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:21 | 4696658 Lost My Shorts
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Yes, I think they bought Portland last year for cash, and now they are renting it back to us.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:41 | 4696774 Keyser
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Ah, but there is the rub... As a foreigner, try and purchase land or hold majority interest in a company located in China... 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:06 | 4697206 MacGruber
Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:10 | 4697223 old naughty
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Wait, who's in Finland, again?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:31 | 4697284 Ying-Yang
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The End of the New World Order

"Russia’s annexation of Crimea and ongoing intimidation of Ukraine appears to mean the end of a 25-year period whose hallmark was an effort to bring Russia into greater alignment with Euro-Atlantic goals and traditions. Now the question is: What comes next?"

"In the United States, the media often point out that most Americans would be hard pressed to find Ukraine on a map. They don’t need to. But Americans do need to understand the challenge they are facing from a Russia that no longer seems interested in what the West has been offering for the last 25 years: special status with NATO, a privileged relationship with the European Union, and partnership in international diplomatic endeavors. All of these seem to be off the table for now."

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:09 | 4697401 old naughty
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Thanks for the good link, YY.

Not sure about "the end of NWO" tho.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:43 | 4697810 mjcOH1
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"Why was the Doomsday Plane circling so close to the Baltics today of all days, and is this nothing but a welcome sign from Russia to the NATO build out in Eastern and Central Europe?"


Because it's shiny and new, and the US likes to look at it.   It's like dangling a feather in front of your cat when you want its attention.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 08:00 | 4698470 i-dog
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Cute ... The US E4-B is called "the eye in the sky" ... while the exact Russian equivalent is called "the doomsday plane".

Hmmm ... I think I'm getting the hang of this opinion-shaping propaganda routine. Nice one, Tyler.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:05 | 4697711 Drifter
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Putin: "Fuck NATO, fuck those EU pussies, we have that privileged relationship with Europe, it's called "natural gas", and 'partnership in international diplomatic endeavors' is just more US bullshit. Shut the fuck up and pay that gas bill or your "NATO allies" will freeze this winter and their industries will run out of gas way before then."

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 09:59 | 4698680 WordSmith2013
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US-Directed Regime Change In The Ukraine Guaranteed To Provoke Russian Fury

! ! !

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:09 | 4697402 Dixie Rect
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Wait, more importantly, did Obama like his green tea ice cream?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:36 | 4697475 old naughty
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don't think so...he "allowed" Bieb to go visit the shrine.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:32 | 4697615 mccvilb
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Holy crap! I'll never fly again!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 21:50 | 4697934 ptolemy_newit
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buy land NO!

rent land for 75 years yes

own a business EASY.

thailand is different.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:30 | 4696718 BLOTTO
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'They' are just starting early celebrations for 'Labour Day' aka 'May Day' aka 'Beltane Day' on the Pagan Calendar...

May 1st - exactly 6 months from All Hallow's Eve.



Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:58 | 4697170 Kirk2NCC1701
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As are the Vietnamese. Part of the 'benefit' for bombing and torching the hell out of their country.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:40 | 4696435 NotApplicable
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Been to Portland lately?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 23:34 | 4698127 IndyPat
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I thought lesbos took over Portland ....

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:32 | 4696511 graneros
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Twitter FB or the internet has nothing to do with it.  DefCon is simply a gauge.  It is not a secret of any kind. We were at DefCon 4 last year over the Norks. By remaing at 5 the government is telling us that they are in no way concerned about the threat of nuclear war. I say the threat of nuclear war has certainly been ratcheted up by this Ukrainian "crisis." It doesn't matter what side you think is right, wrong, or anything in between.  The fact of the matter is events are in motion that takes the world a step closer to nuclear war and our own governmental gauge tells us that nothing has changed. When in fact it has.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:51 | 4696819 Beam Me Up Scotty
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They aren't going to tell us we are at anything below Defcon 4 you can be sure of that.  Remember?  We lie when things get bad.  There will be the Shadow Defcon which might be at Defcon 1, but you won't know TSHTF until the nukes are on their way.  They will probably shut the internet down before they get launched anyway, thats when you can start worrying.  But for them to actually ratchet it down like they did in Cuba and publicly tell us, its not going to happen.

When your cellphone won't work, the internet is down, and your GPS stops working, you should bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.  You have less than 30 minutes probably.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:21 | 4697254 TN Jed
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Defcon 6.


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:21 | 4697433 The Blank Stare
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Then Fukushima should have put us at Defcon 4 for the next 100 years. Or is pushing a button the only requirement needed for it to be raised.

increase volume for effect

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:24 | 4697598 Bangin7GramRocks
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Greetings Professor Falken. Would you like to play a game?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 22:29 | 4698008 Spumoni
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Safest cypher around - ten people are left on the outside who can still decipher Morse Code.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:18 | 4696323 General Decline
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There's no fighting in here! This is the war room!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:37 | 4696418 Warhead
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Up-arrow for Dr. Strangelove reference. As is the custom of my people.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:41 | 4696433 Motorhead
Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:44 | 4697806 Flagit
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so last night, on recommendation from a few threads ago, i watched "Paths Of Glory".

its ironic, that men that were slated to die, willingly, would become soo fearful of being shot to death.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 22:18 | 4697988 mkkby
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Shut up and drink your pure grain alcohol.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:38 | 4696335 redpill
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Disagree, this is all just penis waving.  Russia knows damn well NATO isn't going to do shit, they are just mocking the west.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:46 | 4697126 vie
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Or are we not worried because it's all just for show, while NATO and Russia divy up Ukraine.  

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:19 | 4696639 Stares straight...
Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:33 | 4696403 Bindar Dundat
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Last time you messed with us we burnt down the Whitehouse in 1812.



Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:02 | 4696545 McMolotov
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You're more than welcome to do it again.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 23:40 | 4698135 IndyPat
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And we will throw in Detroit, to boot!

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 04:02 | 4698345 El Crusty
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why bother? detroit has been mostly burned down and destroyed already..

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 04:17 | 4698355 Balanced Integer
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As long as Obama and his minions (and/or overlords, depending on your POV) are somewhere deep in the heart of the inferno, these proposals have my hearty endorsement.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:21 | 4696659 Ferrari
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Would you mind doing us a favor and repeating that feat?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:43 | 4697493 Papasmurf
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They have installed sprinkler systems since then.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:46 | 4697818 Flagit
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its codenamed "Golden Shower"

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:31 | 4697609 Blano
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This time you'll be welcomed as heroes.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:13 | 4696972 Quantum Nucleonics
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That's speaking pretty highly of Canada's defenses that a US/Russian JV would be required.  IIRC, all it took for Canadian border guards to abandon their posts was one mentally ill guy driving his car toward the border.  I think a couple guys in pick up trucks could take Canada over a weekend and be back home for work on Monday.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:08 | 4697396 57-71
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As long as you go for Quebec you can keep it. Come back every weekend if you like.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:14 | 4697416 TheReplacement
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Did that two weeks ago.  Nobody cared. 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 23:27 | 4698116 IndyPat
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We've always been at war with Canada.


Sat, 04/26/2014 - 02:41 | 4698301 Lord Koos
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I thought it was the public school teachers' union.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:19 | 4696326 Gringo Viejo
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Kinda scarey thinkin' Obama has access to doomsday anything.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:28 | 4696368 SmilinJoeFizzion
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not to worry- the bunker is stocked with Kobe beef 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:04 | 4696550 KickIce
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Gonna piss off some Lakers fans, might even serve to wake up a few FSA members.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:12 | 4696599 SDShack
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...and Colorado weed.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:03 | 4696546 Hulk
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(read the following in your mental allen ludden voice)

and the doomsday password is zero , zero, zero !!!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:53 | 4696868 ZerOhead
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That's not a password... that's my combination lock combination.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 04:20 | 4698357 Balanced Integer
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That's incredible. I have the same combination on my luggage!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:01 | 4697188 Kirk2NCC1701
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He preps for Choomsday.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 23:13 | 4698086 Pickleton
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Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:31 | 4696390 Gorod-Geroy Xerson
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Hey, at least someone is having a good time!  lucky....

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:37 | 4696108 max2205
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Humm. And Barry is in the air from eating sushi playing angry birds




I am headed for the bunker

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:51 | 4696124 cougar_w
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No way Putin is in that thing. He's not in the air anywhere. Too easy a target.

Putin is hanging out in a dacha situated in a small valley somewhere in the hills overlooking a small lake where he can go rowing to relax. All his communications are ground-based or microwave relay. And he leaves C+C to his senior officers.

If it's really the end of the world then there is no reason to be uptight about it.

Shit happens. Then we're all moving on from shit happened.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:10 | 4696240 jon dough
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"What we'll hear is a sharp high pitched noise. That will be the sound of the Ambassadors phone melting from the fireball."

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:37 | 4696750 Chief Wonder Bread
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+1 for the Fail-Safe reference.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:11 | 4696275 Urban Roman
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Something-something Precious Bodily Fluids.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:27 | 4696366 mumcard
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You'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola corporation for that...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:39 | 4696425 onthesquare
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Denigh them your essence.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:39 | 4696428 Warhead
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Up arrow, for obvious reasons.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:22 | 4696343 Citxmech
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My take was that the author was saying that the implication of plane flying circles in that area is that Putin is on the ground planning his next moves.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:45 | 4696145 McMolotov
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I'm starting to get the feeling we're on the express train to Crazytown and there's no way it can be stopped.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:56 | 4696164 Ignatius
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Well, with pinheads and lunatics in charge...

I noticed my supply of beans was low and re-stocked this AM.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:57 | 4696208 American Dreams
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Welcome Aboard!

There be no shelter here


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:50 | 4696174 cougar_w
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Been feeling that for about 3 weeks now.

Just so you know I have particularly long whiskers. Things come at me out of the dark, I pay attention.

Got it bad, right now. This has the potential to unwind fast and hard. I think we are already in the coils of something that could crush everything very quickly.

Just needs a little push.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:58 | 4696218 Wahooo
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Nothing left to do today than BTFD.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:24 | 4696355 sushi
Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:15 | 4696983 Antarctico
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How about some robotic help?


Dr. Strangelove: Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you *keep* it a *secret*! Why didn't you tell the world, EH?

Ambassador de Sadesky: It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, the Premier loves surprises.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:08 | 4696457 Quus Ant
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Glad I'm not the only one.  This is different from the usual fever pitch end-o-the-world mania some people seem to live off of.  Bad doin's ahead.  The real america is coming out from behind the happy-smiley mask for all to see and is unabashedly taking hold of its manifest destiny.  (Or did anyone think the colonial, slavemaster mindset had been swept into the dustbin of history?) 

We will see what depths patriots will sink in the name of freedom.  Again.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:51 | 4697145 TheMeatTrapper
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I work with a young guy who is interested in prepping and has started taking concrete steps. This morning I brought him 5 five gallon buckets, lined with mylar bags and O2 absorbers, packed with beans, rice, wheat and corn. I have several years worth stored and here lately I've felt an urge to start sharing some excess with people. 

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:18 | 4697431 Bollixed
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I've been stocking up for a while now. Plenty of beans, rice, and lead. But some asshole broke into my stash of concrete steps. Boy, when I find that guy...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:52 | 4696175 Dr. Engali
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I go back and forth. There are times when I think shit's going to hit the fan and there are times that I can't help wondering if they're all just fucking with our heads.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:54 | 4696195 jay28elle
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...or both.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 04:06 | 4698350 El Crusty
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fucking with the shithead that hit the fan.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:58 | 4696213 cougar_w
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They stopped fucking with our heads about a year ago. Everything for the last year has been panic-driven tactical retreat. Just staying above water.

This thing in Ukraine is evidence that the floor has dropped out. Putin is moving through the power vacuum the way Genghis Khan would have; fast, straight into the breech, maximum shock and terror, taking as much territory as he can in one go.

There is no foundation anymore. We need to make a new one -- starting a year ago. Putin is making his play for western Asia (that includes Europe for those who still think "Europe" is a continent, cuz it ain't) and if he can get a good size chunk that will stabilize Mother Russia for now.

We probably have 100 years of this bullshit ahead of us.

From this moment forward all will be in motion and nothing will be as it appears.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:06 | 4696249 Tao 4 the Show
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Most interesting, I think, is the contrast between the overwhelming mindset held by many that a contest between the west and Russia is like an adult against a six year old, on the one hand, and the confidence projected by everything Russia says and does. Someone is obviously very wrong.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:10 | 4696581 johny2
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strange, it seems to me as if Russia had its forces only in Russia. It is NATO who acts as if it has defence against ICBMs and are sure of winning the war they are working hard on starting. Otherwise it is distraction from the real issues (old and highly corrupt system) and population control, and only remains to be seen to which level of population

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:07 | 4697707 Parrotile
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I've always suspected there was a far more sinister reason behind the US's enthusiasm in upgrading / expanding their capacity in Darwin, "up North", which is literally "just up the road" from the sizeable RAAF Tindal base in Katherine!

Maybe we'll all have a "heads up" when the number of flights into this airbase start to unexpectedly increase -  Notice that the runways are capable of handling 737 size aircraft, and there is now a civilian terminal too.

Essentially "out of the way", comings and goings well under the radar of the vast majority of the Australian population, and LOTS of space for dignitaries / military / politicians to "conveniently disappear" in a very acceptable degree of comfort, since the airbase is right alongside the main highway from Darwin to Port Agusta, and is also close (very close) to the main rail line, so plenty of capacity to shuttle "special visitors" very far and wide, very quickly indeed.

Bet this gets zero coverage in the Aussie MSM!

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:58 | 4696219 McMolotov
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I hope they're just fucking with our heads, but it seems as though the things that make you go "Hmmmmm" have been replaced by the things that make you go "Hhhhholy shit."

I completely admit I'm pretty paranoid, but this one feels different to me.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:03 | 4696236 fonzannoon
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It feels different because the economy is in the shitter and inflation is roasting people. So if you acknowledge those two things then you can see that we are pretty much walking around provoking every other country and just hoping someone takes a swing so we can get in a giant brawl.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:09 | 4696267 Dr. Engali
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It seems like the empire wants anybody they can provoke to take a swing, including the American people themselves.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:23 | 4696347 Uchtdorf
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Like an old rancher in Nevada?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 22:32 | 4698012 mkkby
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Nothing much will come from this.  Just more sectarian violence in the baltic region.  Been happening for decades.

Russia/USSA won't go toe to toe.  The russians (and chinese) are too smart for that.  They know all they have to do is keep pushing on the dollar, and they'll have the upper hand some day.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:32 | 4696398 Citxmech
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The US as Begbie from Trainspotting?  (Haven't we all known somebody like that at some point?)

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:04 | 4696925 Chupacabra-322
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@ Dr. Engali,

Provoke? False Flag them is more like it.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:02 | 4697190 vie
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Just because they're fucking with our heads doesn't mean the shit isn't going to hit the fan.  9/11 and subsequent wars were an example of that.  They will do what they need to get what they want.

Besides, I'm pretty sure they're driving us to civil unrest much like the collapse of the USSR so they can pretend they have a mandate to tear up the "failed" constitution and write a new one that gives up soveriegnty to the UN.  Plenty of evidence in that direction.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 02:48 | 4698309 Lord Koos
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This could be an agreement amongst the global TPTB to create a new cold war with Russia, which naturally will mean we need to spend more on "defense".  Can't have the Pentagon running out of money... and gotta keep those contractors busy. The first cold war era was full of proxy hot wars, and this time it will be the same.  And anything to take their minds of off that Snowden stuff.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:05 | 4696555 Caobei
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I wish it would start already, because Putin is not backing down he will lose face and power  internally. NATO is particually weak and indecisive for the last two decades so it's about time they were tested  to see if they really care about anything (which I highly doubt) as Europe has it in the back of their mind that the US will rescue when it's time. 

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 07:16 | 4698466 UselessEater
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I have wished a clyclone would happen already!! Its annoying waiting but stupid wishing it to come on already. Usually its damage is a quarter of the hype the media wished for and we fear the potential more than the reality.

War & collapse is often foreseeablely slow to start if you're keeping an eye on the signals (as opposed to sitting absorbed in junk tv shows), and then it is "slow" so to speak to reach & devestate the majority of regions around it.

Rather than wish the start (which will devestate a family other than yours), I and you should practice tolerance of the tension.

We gotta make our plan A and B and C and work out how to deal with life in the meantime. I felt humbled today when a family member said "we got the best plans and sacrifices we know & can make for the future, so now I want to try and live a normal life".

After being born into war. I never really want it to "start already" but I get frustrated to and understand the sentiment some of us feel from time to time.

BUT we have got time. after a weekend with my folks who found a smile and laugh, that is a damn fine thing.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:48 | 4696818 Uncle Remus
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Cue Ozzie...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 21:47 | 4697931 monkeyboy
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Who would have thought Ozzy & Sabbath would have been so prophetic...Soundtrack to the coming Apocalypse


Crazy Train


War Pigs

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:58 | 4696217 JesusUp
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ominous omens for a hundred, Alex

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:23 | 4696344 sushi
Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:45 | 4696799 Uncle Remus
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So, a sort of zombie apocalypse then.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:16 | 4696986 sleigher
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A dead man switch for their nukes?  It really is a M.A.D. world isn't it.  The US must have something similar no?  Or does our arrogance not allow such things?

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 21:01 | 4697857 Bangin7GramRocks
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I always assumed any Russian built airplane was a Doomsday plane.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 03:38 | 4698334 e_goldstein
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Ah, I see you've flown aeroflop as well.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 05:31 | 4698402 Bokkenrijder
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External fual tanks? On a Tu 214? Doubt it..

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 14:17 | 4699170 Jstanley011
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Those are the worst kind.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:27 | 4696052 stateside
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So they can track Putin's flight path but can't keep track of a Malaysian airliner?



Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:51 | 4696490 onthesquare
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you are confussed with the spoken truth and the spoken lie and the actual truth and a fabricated truth.  Then there is the pre-conditional "report from intelligence..." which has proven to be a complete lie but not the fault of the administration, kind of story...There are no lies just anti-truths.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:18 | 4696995 sleigher
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Nearly as good as known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:27 | 4696053 ILLILLILLI
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I love FlightRadar24...great stuff.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:29 | 4696060 the not so migh...
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its making the shape of a ....pussy,   oo he just called obama a pussy

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:28 | 4696062 slotmouth
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Doomsday doesn't really seem like the right word.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:48 | 4696162 DaddyO
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How about the end of the world as we know it?

TEOTWAWKI is less ominous?

Hedge Accordingly!


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:26 | 4696361 NYPoke
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That certainly makes a better song.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:05 | 4697200 vie
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I feel fine.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:28 | 4696063 PlusTic
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Fly it over NYC...

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:28 | 4696064 msmith9962
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Zerohedge has gotten really interesting again the past few weeks.  That's probably not good.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:40 | 4696136 cougar_w
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I hear that one conventional Chinese curse goes "may you live in interesting times"

Any race with a history longer than 1,000 years will instantly understand.


Jon Corzine, fed to a tiger.

Yeah you know you're gonna hit it.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:16 | 4697578 gonetogalt
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Now that's fucking funny!!!.  Good job, Cougar.  (What talent hangs at ZH.)

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 10:49 | 4698765 thestarl
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In the two or so years I've been here I find ZH ahead of the curve.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:30 | 4696070 kchrisc
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They found MH370 near Finland?!


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:53 | 4696189 jay28elle
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Just as likely to show up in Finland as near Australia, IMHO.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:30 | 4696071 Patriot Eke
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Instead of tracking their planes in Europe, we should be tracking their submarines off our coasts.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:42 | 4696126 e_u_r_o
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someones been reading tom clancy :P

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:59 | 4696205 cro_maat
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I was in the navy when Red October came out and the 1 critique that all my submariner friends had was that the 1 Russian sub off the East Coast was ridiculus. They said that there are multiple Russian subs off of Groton, Norfolk, San Diego, etc. everry day tracking US Navy movements just as we have multiple subs off of Vladisvostok, etc.

Edit: Clancy said that he got all of his information from Jane's Fighting Ships but he clearly had a high level informer working for him. After the publication he was questioned by the CIA and NIS concerning his knowledge of silent propellers (anti-cavitation tech.) that was top secret at the time but also in prototype testing.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 18:29 | 4697459 overthehill
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I was doing top secret work on sonar for the FBMs and also writing a submarine book when clancy published his book. His book was essentially WWII technology w/r to electronic technology of the day. While the movie was very good the book was very bad. If you are so inhclined check out my novel 'Wildcard" you can find it at Amazon, or visit my website,


Fri, 04/25/2014 - 23:37 | 4698129 Bearish Spirits
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Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:12 | 4696594 Patriot Eke
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No.  Instead, I do not expect us to win this next global war, and I am almost certain nuclear weapons will be used.  Sleep well tonight.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:55 | 4696201 SAT 800
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We can't. Our handy dandy CIA spy that  was in the papers a few years ago sold them all our submarine technology and now we can't hear them or find them. Does that make you feel better? A Chinese submarine, (behind relative to the Russians) popped up next to an American Aircraft Carrier a few months ago, just to say Hi !. We didn't know it was there. Just a friendly hint.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 17:09 | 4697222 TN Jed
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Maaaan, I did not want to remember I forgot that.  Blue pill, check please.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 20:26 | 4697767 Parrotile
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Wonder if the Russians have sold their supercavitating tech to those Chinese? The "original" Shkval would be a little "long in the tooth" now, but just as fast (and effective). Western Intelligence knows that this technology has progressed quite a bit, and its descendents will have, let's say, an "advanced capability", including modified "flight path" options, and development of detection coundermeasures (not that the window for detection / neutralisation will be that long anyhow!)

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:28 | 4696281 Dr. Engali
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I think you mean Chinese subs off our coasts. Don't forget the message they sent us in the form of a missile launch off the coast of California a couple years back.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 15:10 | 4696585 Patriot Eke
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I remember.  Chinese or Russian though, we'd have less than a 2 minute warning.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 16:42 | 4697109 Quantum Nucleonics
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It's amazing how this crap just keeps living on.  That was an airplane.

By the way, ballistic missiles have quite large minimum ranges, so launching a missile of the California coast is a great idea... if you want to blow up something in the middle of the Atlantic ocean.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 19:37 | 4697630 Blano
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For cryin' out loud.  Check out the plume coming out the back in the half second close up shot.  That ain't no freakin' airplane.

Sat, 04/26/2014 - 09:30 | 4698630 Winston Churchill
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Does'nt the Iskander have a naval variant ?
Non ballistic,no warning.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:32 | 4696073 Dr. Engali
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He is showing El Presidente Zero that he is not the only head of state who can leave a big carbon foot print.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:31 | 4696075 docmac324
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Like Buicks, the Ruskies build some UGLY stuff.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 13:49 | 4696171 Winston Churchill
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Their naval ships are actually quite beautiful in comparison to the latest USN designs.
Planes they go for rugged and functional, not looks.
The F35 looks very pretty, but is a boondoggle turd.
Their priorities are right, I fear the US armed forces will be made fools of by an opponent that is not third world, and
unfortunately happily living above resources the Empire wants.

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:00 | 4696222 Unknown Poster
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Their flying ships look good, though. Ground effect vehicle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fri, 04/25/2014 - 14:18 | 4696321 Winston of Oceania
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All being replaced with autonomous drones to pacify the skies for CAS and tactical bombers, 1/3 scale with no human limitations in maneuver.  Oh wait that's a movie plot I'm working on...

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