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OSCE Sends Second Team To Negotiate Release Of First OSCE Team Held Hostage In East Ukraine
Yesterday, in merely the latest indication the eastern, pro-Russian region of Ukraine will hardly succumb to Kiev authority, a group of OSCE military observers who had been dispatched to supervise events in the city of Slavyansk were taken hostage by local separatist milita. Soon thereafter even Russia itself chimed in saying it "will take all possible steps to free detained OSCE military observers in the Ukrainian town of Slaviansk, Russian news agencies reported on Saturday, citing Russia's envoy to the Vienna-based Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe." "We think that these people need to be freed as soon as possible," Andrei Kelin said in comments cited by ITAR-TASS. "Russia as a member of the OSCE will undertake all possible steps in this matter."
Of course, there are words and there are actions: it was the same OSCE observers who were promptly kicked out of Crimea on the eve of the local independence referendum which saw the territory overwhelmingly vote to join Russia.
As such, it is certain that any further attempts by the west (and Russia which ironically is a member of the OSCE) to inject third parties in what is a clear conflict between Russia and Ukraine, will be met with failure. Which is why we read with amusement that in the latest attempt to de-escalate violence, now that diplomacy has failed, the OSCE has dispatched a negotiating team to try to secure the release of the first OSCE group, a German government source said on Saturday. "A negotiating team from the OSCE is on the way to the region," said the source, declining to give further details, including exactly where they were heading.
So what happens when the OSCE rescue team, too, is captured and held hostage? Will a third OSCE team be unleashed to seek the release of the team that was sent out previously to liberate the original OSCE team, and so on? Hopefully this farce will be avoided, as the separatists made it quite clear they simply intended to hold on to the OSCE hostages as a bargaining chip:
A leader for pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine said Saturday that a group of foreign military observers who have been detained as suspected “NATO spies” could be released in exchange for jailed pro-Russian activists.
“They are officers from NATO member states,” said Vyacheslav Ponomaryev, self-proclaimed mayor of the eastern city of Slovyansk. “As we found maps on them containing information about the location of our checkpoints, we get the impression that they are officers carrying out a certain spying mission.”
The German-led, eight-member team was traveling under the auspices of the Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe when they were detained in Slovyansk.
And just so Russia doesn't feel like it is the only one engaging in shady activity, at the same time as the OSCE mini drama was unfolding, Russia itself voiced a complaint that its journalists were being assaulted and intimidated, and requested they be protected. RT reports that representatives of Russian TV channels have urged international organizations, including the UN, UNESCO and the OSCE, to protect the rights and dignity of journalists covering the Ukraine crisis from illegal actions of the Kiev authorities.
Disturbed by intensified assaults and intimidation of journalists in Ukraine, their detentions and deportations, the heads of all Russia's major TV corporations, including RT, have called on human rights organizations to “defend the professional rights of journalists working in Ukraine.”
“Ukraine’s Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions are witnessing the ruthless suppression of civil liberties on a daily basis. Journalists are being threatened with their lives if they continue to report from Ukraine,” the letter reads, signed by the heads of All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK), NTV, REN TV, Channel 5, RT and News Media.
“The new Ukrainian authorities have repeatedly taken illegal actions barring our staff journalists covering the Ukraine crisis from performing their professional duties and violating their human dignity,” the letter says.
In the latest incident on Friday morning, Lifenews journalists Julia Shustraya and Mikhail Pudovkin, were detained and later deported to Russia. The crew was abducted by armed Ukraine Security Service members, after they filmed an interview with one of the leaders of the pro-federalization movement in Ukraine.
“[Journalists] are being watched, their phone conversations wiretapped. There were cases when journalists were forced to get down on their knees, beaten during detention and illegally deported from Ukraine,” the joint address to UN, OSCE and UNESCO reads.
Or, in other words, the fog of pre-war is rapidly falling, and quite soon nobody will know what the truth (or lies) coming out of Ukraine is.
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Thanks for the fresh article Tyler. I was queasy looking at Hillary's mug all morning
great idea ... at some point send biden and kerry ... all will be solved
For heads up here is a movie ... not just any movie .... a bit more than that ... someone suggested to change Iran with Ukraine ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AUYCnzmDJY
Don't you get that de ja vu feeling of repeat of event during the Carter-Reagan transition when Iran released the hostages...
ooooops, Ukraine is not Iran...
All we need for de-escalation is for the USSA to get OUT of the Ukraine and let the locals sort it out. But the Kerry Kiev Klown show must go on...
What this is really all about ... these 2 links expain, the first link worth reading it all, the 2nd can be just skimmed:
http://politicalvelcraft.org/2013/05/30/president-putin-cracks-down-on-rothschild-goons-john-kerry-barry-soetoro-monsantos-bee-apocalypse/
http://www.ids.ac.uk/news/what-next-for-the-brics-development-bank A new issue of the IDS Rapid Response Briefing series looks at some of the key issues surrounding the creation of a new development bank by the emerging economies of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (BRICS). The BRICS Bank was expected to be launched at the recent BRICS Summit that took place in South Africa in March, but the launch has been postponed until the next summit in Brazil in 2014.Now i understand why BBC is upping negative reports of Brazil in these few months. Is all about money.
Thankz really worth watching. We need a reminder every now and then! A modern version lokking at the side 9f the decision makers before and after would be a big tike block uster movie!
Jesus, a comic book would make more sense. Who are these morons?
How do you think Bill feels? Poor guy. No wonder.
Its in everyones interest to keep this story fresh
they are not OSCE members, OSCE clearly explained it :
https://twitter.com/OSCE
WTF?
OSCE: "Military verification team - led by Germans – and composed of 8 members – 4 Germans, 1 Czech, 1 Danish, 1 Polish, 1 Swedish"
https://twitter.com/OSCE
yes people who were arrested are NATO militaries, not OSCE observers, but they were invoking an OSCE agreement to justify their presence
Oh and the other guys in the bus were ukrainien officers.
just to reminder the city were they were arrested is under siege, by the national guard, lead by Andrei Paruiy, founder of the ukrainien social-nationalist party (neonazis).
Update: detained OSCE monitors are NATO military intelligence.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/detained-osce-monitors-in-eastern-ukraine-t...
“A gentleman gets along with others, but does not necessarily agree with them, neither does he gang up with others” (?????????) China’s Foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang quoted Chinese philosopher Confucius on Friday night. Well, Confucius was a visionary. Those 8 libidinous characters not only applied to Obama and Abe, but also to Angela, Sobotka, Helle, Tusk and Reinfeldt lasciviously ganging Putin.
Dammit Obama, tweet something!!!
He's too busy having Reggie wash his balls on the golf course.
I've seen those machines,Surely that would hurt, if
Reggie got a finger caught.
I'm sure they're as tough as leather, just like Hitlery's balls. Hardest part is not falling off the ball washer.
Assimo pounding
...and O'bomba has extra sanctions "teed up"...
What a 'fairway lovin', 'green huggin', douche nozzle...
And bowing, again, this time to a fucking robot.
http://www.wptv.com/news/world/video-president-obama-plays-soccer-with-dancing-robot-in-tokyo
(Gawd I swear)
At least the Japanese are smart enough to provide some toys to keep him entertained.
I do the same for my adolescent family members.
And apparently he thinks we're as easily distracted with shiny objects as he is...lol.
Your perspective is wrong; he's not bowing per se - he's raising his ass for better Reggie Love accessibility.
Lost Highway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgicPdsxxg
Kerry, the new Colin Powell, is lying his way to a major war with Russia:
Kerry’s statement on Ukraine: A lying brief for war
By Alex Lantier26 April 2014
On Thursday, US Secretary of State John Kerry delivered a lying brief for war aimed at justifying the crackdown by the Western-backed Kiev regime on pro-Russian protests in eastern Ukraine and possible military action against Russia. Declaring confrontation with Russia to be all but inevitable, he turned reality on its head, blaming the crisis entirely on Russia and clearing Kiev of all responsibility.
“The simple reality is you can’t resolve a crisis when only one side is willing to do what is necessary to avoid confrontation,” Kerry declared. Citing the April 17 truce talks in Geneva that halted the Kiev regime’s first attempted crackdown, he said: “One week later, it is clear that only one side, one country, is keeping its word. And for anyone who wants to create gray areas out of black, or find in the fine print crude ways to justify crude actions, let’s get real: the Geneva agreement is not open to interpretation.”
He continued: “The world has rightly judged that Prime Minister Yatsenyuk and the Government of Ukraine are working in good faith. And the world, sadly, has rightly judged that Russia has put its faith in distraction, deception, and destabilization.”
Let us, indeed, get real, Mr. Kerry. These arguments have not a shred of credibility, and neither do you.
While the vaunted European Union sits on its hands.
Not one drop of American blood needs to be spilt fighting their wars for them. Grow a pair or give Putin what he wants, euro-weanies ;-)
Thought you were more astute.
Europe doesn't want this.
This is an US play to stop trade between the EU and Russia/China at the expense of the petrodollar.
If Europe has to be destroyed for dollar hegemony, so
be it.
Why they are volunteering for the firing squad is beyond
me.A whole lot of cajoling ,and blackmail seems the only way
this could be happening.
If the EU didn't want this maybe they shouldn't have been dickin around in Putins backyard. Euromaiden was triggered by the former government not signing an "on the table agreement" with the EU for closer ties contingent on the reformation of its (the Ukrainian) constitution.
Its not a matter of debate Winston, its a matter of historical fact.
Like most intelligence operations this is working on
multiple levels.What they think they were doing,is usually far from the true goal of the puppet master.
Without the open diplomatic level (which is what the EU & Ukraine were engaged in) there would have been no protesters to turn into rioters, then revolutionaries, when the former Ukrainian government refused to reform/conform itself to the EU's desires.
The EU had to know this was a possiblity or they're as diplomatically stupid as John Kerry.
But yes, the EU will do nothing now after it had a hand in starting the damned fire, it still wants the Russian gas and personally I wouldn't care if Putin charges them double for general incompetence for kicking wasp nests.
In one sentence you say "at the expense of the petrodollar" and in the next you say "if Europe needs to be destroyed for dollar hegemony, so be it." Which is it?
Read it again.I thought I was clear.
The expanding trade will be done in any currency other than dollars soon enough.
If the US cannot bend countries to remain in the petrodollar
camp, they settle for destroying them. The exorbitant
privilege will never be given up willingly, no matter
what the cost in lives.The history is plain.If Europe needs destroying to maintain the petrodollar it will be.
Our current period in time is the most dangerous ever for
humanity, if the doomsday clock was still running, we would
be seconds from midnight, not minutes.The piss poor leadership,whether oligarchs or politicians, in the west only makes it far worse.
You need to take everything Kerry says with a grain, excuse me, lick of salt
Hilarious. Looks like they are going to need a lot more OSCE teams.
And how did they get anyone to voluteer? Threaten to kill their families?
When they asked volunteers to step forward, everyone else took one step back.
I doubt those observers are being mistreated. I imagine that they gave themselves up to the game willingly and are having their feet rubbed by Ukrainian detention honeys.
Wishful thinking maybe??
time is on the side of the ukraine....
invasion is off the table.
putinczar waited too long before ordering another invasion.
Europe: "mask me once, shame on you, mask me twice shame on me"
:)
Yep, exactly. For some reason Putin plays by the book and somehow still thinks he can negotiate with the very disingenuous West lead by Skull & Bones Kerry, WRONG!
He is playing to a different audience.
The BRICS ,and all NAC(non aligned countries in the world).
The kiev putsch is falling apart in front of our eyes, and
Putin has the winning hand.He is just watching the pot grow,
before laying out his cards.
german led? fuck that, i'm going awol.
please please take the second team hostage lads, please,
hilarity, lol,
dont hurt any of the supid saps though,
Send in the first Team ... Kidnapped
Send in the second Team ... never heard from again
Send in the third Team - wait, wait, don't tell me, plan D perhaps?
LMAO - this is like the Keystone Kops (if anyone remembers)
101 years ago, saving the damsel in distress ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXIlXsCxT8
Guys/Gals have you seen Obama lately? He has aged 20 years in 6, unbelievable. Look at his fascie. IMHO that is a stressed out guy hating every minute of the situation he is in. I can even feel sorry for him, really tough decisions in front of him. Obviously, lots of critical life and death staff that we know nothing about. Just compare his body language with the pre- 2009 Obama that wanted to keep using his Blackberry. Lol
Most of the world hates him, that must be a bit of a nightmare,
and lots of people, me included, think hes worse than Bush, imagine livin with that, lol,
and im sure all those incinerated kids haunt his dreams too, i fckn hope they do,
aged 20 in 6, hummmmm.
And he's kicking soccer with a Japanese robot?
All for show, or not.
Obama is stressed because he played golf with Tiger. Ticks were hookers and Obama is stressed because his security detail want to test drive the girls.
The girls want double pay for that duty.
The BLM thugs are pissed at all of this.
fuck obama. have you seen how many for kids are starving in the US?
obama is reaping the whirlwind. maybe we will get lucky and he will have a stroke.
President Joe Biden
The three scariest words I can imagine.
Then there's President Pelosi - two words which might keep Biden alive for awhile.
I'll bet he wishes for simplier days - like back when he was from Kenya and doing roof hits in paradise.
He is the president and responsible. If he is not able then resign.
.
Obama does not have a single tough decision to make.
His handlers tell him what to do.
The tough part for him: he is such a loser; he certainly disappoints his handlers.
The reason he was constantly fumbling for his Blackberry is because, to an extent, that is how they tell him what to do. He cannot make a decision on his own.
The Germans being held hostage do NOT have a OSCE mandate:
German article: http://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/specials/id_69154210/separatisten-kla...
That article says OSCE has made clear, it was a biliteral military mission (yes, you read that right) led by members of the German army. That is why Germany is in negotiations with the kidnappers, and not the OSCE.
The question is now WTF have German soldiers to do in Ukraine?
It will be interesting to hear what the German defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen (not pronounced lying!) a.k.a. Flintenuschi (shotgun Uschi) will have to say about that.
So far she didn't say nothing, at least not about that the report said it was soldiers of the German Bundeswehr.
In Cold War I it was common to allow observers from both sides to observe the military activities of the other side. I would expect the same of Cold War II.
Basically the observers were contractually "allowed" to go anywhere and observe anything [during Cold War I]. But in practice it was a great game, with attempts to block the observers from moving freely and to hinder them. Great fun! Video and texts exist for those interested.
Elsewhere Minister von der Leyen was quoted:
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/27/2014 09:40 -0400
Cute
Overly cute, but nonetheless ... green ON
They need to send in 5 bearded hipsters to discuss the proper way to lacquer a braised pork belly. They'll bore the shit out of the hostage takers in 5 mins. Problem solved
"Or, in other words, the fog of pre-war is rapidly falling, and quite soon nobody will know what the truth (or lies) coming out of Ukraine is."...
"Truth" or "lies" in this case are irrelevant once the perpetrators are in place... When Yanukovych's ouster became a military backed coup "perpetrator" and "victim" were forever set in stone!
Still relevant are the printed language terms: Patriot, Terrorist, Freedom Fighter, Rebellion, Protester, Uprising, Partisan, Separatist, and the pejoratives go on and on.
Still mostly missing from the narrative are Citizen and Communist and Anarchist.
Bomb-tossers can't be far behind.
First group was not OSCE. Was NATO
One gets the idea that this was all scripted before hand. NATO and the USA have acted too outraged after they funded a coup and then the entire Ukraine did not rush to accept the new government. The outrage seems fake, and the lies are just too transparent. It seems the west has decided to provoke a war, one way or the other. Either war or else Russia accepts a NATO Ukraine, and the east will have to submit. NATO plays a game with only one winner, who takes it all, that is the USA. So, war looks likely.
Obama is out in the east calling for war on North Korea annd war on China. Who runs this fucking government anyways?
"Who runs this fucking government anyways?"...
That should be an easy answer but in order to get it right you will need to step back into the "way back" time machine circa 1912!
Who run BarterTown?
Warmonger McCain?
I'm warming to the idea that Obozo really isn't as stupid
as he appears.
No oligarch wants war on multiple fronts.Too unpredictable.
Yet Obozo is provoking exactly that.
Maybe he is putting a spanner in our owners works on
purpose ????
Expect an untimely death soon, if so.
This administration is doubling down so hard on stupid, it burns. Have a look at THIS horror story from our State Department. Get ready for your head to explode from this dormroom diplomacy:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/04/25/State-Depts-Psaki-Russi...
In my opinion, this story is SO bad, the Tylers should make a post out of it.
Edit: I went back and re-read this story. I still can't believe it isn't from The Onion.
He's golfing. Period
Kidnap, kick out the government, take land, organize with the opposition taking all the high ground in the east
.
does Russia have a nuclear device in Jerusalem or something else crazy WWIII
.
Russia would have to take a leg out from under Europe, anti semetism "could" be popular if Russia has all the oil and the friends to back up its game of finger pointing, territory anexation, and PAX ASIA
Could be that another long and drawn out civil war is going to continue taking place in Ukraine.The U.S. is already sending money and non-lethal aid so I see Russia gradually supporting east Ukraine.It's might be like a buffer zone against the NATO containment policy.It was widely used in the cold war but this time the economic beast of Russia is pretty big.They have the advantage of large amounts of commodities and they control most of the palladium market as well.They are very rich in natural resources which half the world's population needs in Asia right now.Here's the big problem though,it's been developing over time but because of the current economic sanctions on Russian Banks has ruffled Russia's feathers then the conclusion is that the economic escalation has just started.Gradually the economic system in Russia will actually be forced to align itself with India and China along with numerous other countries which are locked out of the power structures of the IMF and the World Bank.China wants this and wants guaranteed commodities for decades.For traders and trading firms it could literally be a bonanza because if an alternate world financial system comes into being outside the U.S. Dollar trading system,then traders can and will trade in the alternate economic system which will not have the tax reporting mechanisms built into it that Uncle Sam needs for Income Tax purposes.Multiple currencies will be accepted at futures markets worldwide and bi-passing conversion into the U.S. Dollar recycling system.(The petro-dollar was set-up by Nixon and Kissinger).This was done with little foresight and various flaws exist in the current fiat money sytem.In another language it means trading in Asia and paying a lower rate of tax there so "the military-industrial" complex can't get Uncle Sam's subsidies any more.Money flows around the globe very easily because of a worldwide ntework of stock and futures exchanges.I can very easily give them my business.It doesn't mean that Uncle Sam is going out of business right away,it only means that the U.S. is going to have stiff competition now and it's all because the neo-cons in Washington refuse to restucture economically.Like James Rickards said "nobody can challenge the U.S. in military terms but economic structural flaws make them vulnerable."
Sent the Hilarious Clit there,.
Let them keep that fucking hag, but I am certain it couldn't possibly as a negotiating point as no sensible fucker would take her back even when they start begging
Where the hell is that RESET button?
'in what is a clear conflict between Russia and Ukraine'
Err, no. Ukraine is just the location of just another proxy-war, which escalated when Russia announced to trade oil and gas for Rouble, Yuan after it has been poked by US and EU long before the olympic games at Sotchi.
OSCE employes?These guys are military spys.
http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26933
German soldiers in ethnic Russian towns.....yeah that'll go down well with the locals. Again more evidence of Western provocation. Keep on poking the bear in the hope that he lashes out. Fair play to Putin & his govt though they are not rising to the bait.
Clearly the author of this blog entry hasn't been paying attention.
Love it! The World is waking up to just how thuggish and scummy the Russians are at a time when the EU and USA can actually respond to this truth. .
All that the Kremlin's Glass Slippered Czarina has done is woken the Europeans and Americans out of a false sense of normality and stability and that is a good thing. Now, finally, the EU and Nordic states will ramp up the military and coordinate for a collective defense. This is how a real and lasting peace is secured.
The bear is now going to be caught between the Western Hunters and the Asian Tiger. Investors in Russia, sorry! You are screwed.
journalists are supposed to supply their own security when travelling abroad, but the russian journalists (incl journalists of russian state run media) demand that ukraine security forces protect them? ha, what a joke.
is russia going to be asking for ukraine security forces to protect their military too on their next invasion?
sry, dbl posted.
I presume the OSCE "world improvers " will be taking Obozo's paint brushes and his red paint, provided he has any left.