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Epidemic Of Hunger: New Report Says 49 Million Americans Are Dealing With Food Insecurity

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

If the economy really is "getting better", then why are nearly 50 million Americans dealing with food insecurity?  In 1854, Henry David Thoreau observed that "the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation".  The same could be said of our time.  In America today, most people are quietly scratching and clawing their way from month to month.  Nine of the top ten occupations in the U.S. pay an average wage of less than $35,000 a year, but those that actually are working are better off than the millions upon millions of Americans that can't find jobs.  The level of employment in this nation has remained fairly level since the end of the last recession, and median household income has gone down for five years in a row.  Meanwhile, our bills just keep going up and the cost of food is starting to rise at a very frightening pace.  Family budgets are being squeezed tighter and tighter, and more families are falling out of the middle class every single day.  In fact, a new report by Feeding America (which operates the largest network of food banks in the country) says that 49 million Americans are "food insecure" at this point.  Approximately 16 million of them are children.  It is a silent epidemic of hunger that those living in the wealthy areas of the country don't hear much about.  But it is very real.

The mainstream media and our politicians continue to insist that "things are getting better", and that may be true for Wall Street, but the man who was in charge of the new Feeding America report says that the level of suffering for the tens of millions of Americans that are food insecure has not changed...

Nothing is getting better,” said Craig Gundersen, lead researcher of the report, “Map the Meal Gap 2014,” and an expert in food insecurity and food aid programs.

 

Let’s stop talking about the end of the Great Recession until we can make sure that we get food insecurity rates down to a more reasonable level,” he added. “We’re still in the throes of the Great Recession, from my perspective.”

In fact, a different report seems to indicate that hunger in America is actually getting worse...

Children's HealthWatch, a network of doctors and public health researchers who collect data on children up to 4 years old, says 29% of the households they track were at risk of hunger last year, compared with 25% the year before.

If someone tries to tell you that "the economy is getting better", that person is probably living in a wealthy neighborhood.  Because those that live in poor neighborhoods would not describe what is going around them as an "improvement".

In particular, many minority neighborhoods are really dealing with extremely high levels of food insecurity right now.  The following comes from a recent NBC News article...

"Minorities are facing serious hunger issues. Ninety-three percent of counties with a majority African-American population fall within the top 10 percent of food-insecure counties, while 60 percent of majority American Indian counties fall in that category"

But if you don't live in one of those areas and you don't know anyone that is facing food insecurity, it can be difficult to grasp just how much people are actually suffering out there right now.

For example, consider the story of a young mother named Tianna Gaines Turner...

Tianna Gaines Turner can't remember the last time she went to bed without worrying about how she was going to feed her three children.

 

She can't remember the last time she woke up and wasn't worried about how she and her husband would make enough in their part-time jobs to buy groceries and pay utilities on their apartment in a working-class section of Philadelphia.

And she can't remember the last time she felt confident she and her husband wouldn't have to skip meals so their children could eat.

Have you ever been in a position where you had to skip meals just so that other family members could have something to eat?

I haven't, so it is hard for me to imagine having to do such a thing.  But there are millions of parents that are faced with these kinds of hard choices every day.

Things can be particularly hard if you are a single parent.  Just consider the story of Jamie Grimes...

After Jaime Grimes found out in January that her monthly food stamps would be cut again, this time by $40, the single mother of four broke down into sobs — then she took action.

 

The former high school teacher made a plan to stretch her family’s meager food stores even further. She used oatmeal and ground beans as filler in meatloaf and tacos. She watered down juice and low-fat milk to make it last longer. And she limited herself to one meal a day so her kids — ages 3, 4, 13, and 16 — would have enough to eat.

I have such admiration for working single mothers.  Many of them work more than one job just so that they can provide for their children.  It can be absolutely frustrating to work as hard as you possibly can and still not have enough money to pay the bills at the end of the month.

Those that believe that the economy has gotten "back to normal" just need to look at the number of women that have been forced to turn to government assistance.  As I mentioned the other day, a decade ago the number of American women that had jobs outnumbered the number of American women on food stamps by more than a 2 to 1 margin. But now the number of American women on food stamps actually exceeds the number of American women that have jobs.

The truth is that we are nowhere close to where we used to be.  The last major economic downturn permanently damaged the middle class, and now the next major economic downturn is rapidly approaching.

Right now, there are nearly 50 million Americans that are facing food insecurity.  When the next economic crisis strikes, that number is going to go much higher.

 

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Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:51 | 4705984 Dr. Engali
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Hope and change is a bitch bitchez! I hear oligarchs are quite tasty with a little garlic and a glass of Cabernet.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:55 | 4705996 Dr. Destructo
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I dunno, I wouldn't eat a penis or an asshole so I'd definitely pass on the oligarch.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:04 | 4706029 knukles
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This is exactly the kind of shit that Progressives cannot expalin away.
Same with the fucking disaster unfolding from ObieCare
Not to mention drones, freedoms... oh neverthefuckmind

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:08 | 4706049 JohnG
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Learn to fish, hunt and grow your food.

Never be hungry again.

If a lily soft keybard jock like me can do it anyone can.

I refuse to starve.

Godammit.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:17 | 4706074 SafelyGraze
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fortunately, the Common Core is improving learning, more and more each year

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S39/86/91I90/

".. began taking college-level math courses at the age of 8 and entered Princeton at 16 .. "

and that is proof the the system is working!

hugs,
arne 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:24 | 4706090 JohnG
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I know about that crap my wife is a teacher....

I hear it every day (bitch, bitch, bitch) keep telling her to just quit FFS.  It is so much worse that you can know unless you've read some of the absolute nonsense coming out of Pearson.  Complete unadulterated crap.

The just don;t even want to try and teach basic skills any more and I get the feeling that they are openly mocking the people. 

Its absurd.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:34 | 4706126 Shad_ow
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Please refer to it in the proper term "Commie Core."

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:42 | 4706148 nmewn
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2 + 2 is five.

Right Johnny! Now how did you arrive at that?

Because two and two makes four and I'm the one adding, so its five.

Excellent Johnny, one gold star for you!

(Johnny says, thats six)

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 03:29 | 4711062 MeelionDollerBogus
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Pearson is highly responsive to the teachers as well, though.

You might not know this but they really want to know what teachers have to say about how their tools benefit, or fail to benefit, the students at various grade levels.

Now just imagine-you-this: what happens if the teachers say the tools and/or curriculum is "too hard"? What happens if they say math problems need to be less wordy because the kids can't read?

And just taking your imagination that far, what if the teachers further say their students who can't read are in grade 4? Not just a handful but a majority....

If you're hearing this and you're not the teacher but the person / group responsible for adjusting something, what do you think your options really are? Not only do you want to sell a product but you also know you're not the actual teacher so how far can you contradict this? What can you push back on?

See how that works? Just think about what that kind of outcome means...

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:35 | 4706129 Tortfeasor
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"And it's a real problem"
A somewhat real problem. If more people took time to forage, fish, fuck, even bake your own damn bread, it would alleviate some of the "real" problem. But no, everyone needs food stamps and free Cheetos.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:58 | 4706215 infinity8
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I won't call myself a lily soft keyboard jock, although I can be/have been. I grew up with an amazing (thsnk's dad) garden that a lot of my chores had to do with as well as grandparents (both sides) and great-grandparents (mom's side) - most amazing, plentiful gardens. Nobody bought produce. I'm ashamed to say that I didn't make use of any of this experience/knowledge until last year which was a bit of a joke. Some unfortunate/unusual weather but, mostly me not putting in the hours to make it happen.

This year I'm getting serious, doubled down space-wise, and so far, the weather gods in my favor. Not fucking around any more.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:40 | 4706344 infinity8
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Also, on a happy note, the row of 4 houses across the street from me that are occupied by "older" (ha-ha, I'm not too far behind them) people that have been there forever and own their homes and don't want to move, have been coming out of their suspicion of me after @7 yrs and we have been trading tools and equipment and services and goods and figuring out how to fucking make it when TSHTF. Very reassuring. I also think I hear my neighbors to the south fucking right now. Good on them. Peace be to all and to all a  Good Night.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:02 | 4706226 Poor Grogman
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Baby lettuce mix is the best bang for the buck to be found.
Cycle two 1sq m plots on three month rotation and have enough delicious green salad mix for the whole family as well as some freeloaders. All year round.
Hard to beat!

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 06:02 | 4706901 MeelionDollerBogus
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LDSPrepper: http://youtu.be/wyOTeZmN62s Easy Trick to Double garden Food Production

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:02 | 4708962 mkkby
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What a scam.  There is no hunger in america.  Not unless you count the lobbyists who hunger for more welfare spending, so they can skim more for themselves.  Lobbyist hunger is a stomach that's never full.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 08:48 | 4707187 TrumpXVI
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"I refuse to starve!"

 

The new battle cry.

Good grief, what have we come to?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:12 | 4706055 john39
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Reminds me of the Great Leap Forward in china. On paper, it all looked fantastic... Until tens of millions of people starved to death.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:30 | 4706109 weburke
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43 million according to expert. purposefully killed. They had crops.....GREW them in fact, but they were shipped away. Just like Ukraine ! back in the thirties.

real insecurity is that the food stamp program is electronic, and there is no plan b

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:45 | 4706470 Totentänzerlied
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Actually crop failure and drastic declines in yield were a problem in all communist countries, particularly Russia/USSR and China that I am familiar with. There is a quote attributed to Mao, that seeds should be sown in groups rather than individually, which was apparently followed through on, and deciminated germination rates and therefore yields. But yes, there was in both cases, almost always, enough food for the locals, problem is it was simply seized at gunpoint and shipped to the cities. If anyone's interested, I'm sure a few seconds of Googling can tell you what happened to farmers accused of hoarding - that familiar clarion call of enemies of markets throughout all human history.

Edit: There is indeed no plan B, not when 90% of the populace has never grown an edible plant and thinks food comes from supermarkets, not to mention agribusiness and the systematic destruction (that is, debt enserfment) of independent farmers.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 01:59 | 4706701 zaphod
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"real insecurity is that the food stamp program is electronic, and there is no plan b"

You could make the same argument for most well to do people who have 3 days of food at the house and think a credit card and whole foods is all you need.

EBT cards will only stop working the day all the cards stop working

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 06:00 | 4706899 MeelionDollerBogus
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Could happen any time. That's why I always have weeks of food, only cash, gold & silver. Fuck electrons, they are an accident/attack waiting to happen.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:15 | 4706065 XitSam
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This is exactly what progressives want. More opportunity for taxation and wealth redistribution! And they can blame it on the Koch brothers and the vast right-wing conspiracy. 

Facts don't matter and the MSM is on their side.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:31 | 4706114 Bangin7GramRocks
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Ayn Rand's bony corpse is grinning ear hole to ear hole. USA! USA! USA!

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:09 | 4706253 newbie vampire
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Aww man, we gotta cut the Man some slack.  He is the 1st POTUS to win the Nobel Peace prize.  What about that all important TPP ?  Which is supposed to bring untold benefits for the US ?/sarc

And he has secured peace in our time with mutual defence treaties with Japan and now the Philippines.  Apparently the mutual defence seems to be strictly one-way.  The US supplies the bodies for the body bags and our mutual allies just do their own thing.  I had thought at least those chicken-livered allies would sign up for the TPP in exchange for US protection.  But no, our dependable allies seem to think the US is obligated to provide for their defence.  We're gonna need the hungry and destitute in the US to fill the ranks of the cannon fodder class.

If it wasn't so sad, it might even be funny.  But this POTUS thinks it is in the best interests of the US.

Ours not to reason why, ours is to do and die.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:33 | 4706452 Totentänzerlied
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You really think so? Your liberal acquaintances must be quite the poseurs if they can't figure this one out, it's the equivalent of finding your way out of an open box. The liberal explanation is simple and hasn't changed in your lifetime. You ready for this bomb of liberal """truth"""*?

"The welfare state is still just not nearly big enough, bitchez." -Article of liberal faith since FDR and third-rail of liberal politics since LBJ

And anyone who thinks I'm making that up, watch a minute of MSNBC (better have a barf bag at the ready) then simply extrapolate the implications of what you hear.

* triple scare-quotes

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:22 | 4706087 rsnoble
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I can't say I wouldn't eat an asshole as i've had a few gals with nice round rumps in my time.  Somehow my tongue always ends up there?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:20 | 4706289 pods
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Pssst, they were talking about the OTHER tossed salad.

pods

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:32 | 4706120 Deathrips
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I was assured that you can eat dollars.

 

Sigh..

 

RIPS

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:03 | 4706026 Groundhog Day
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I thought they were good with fava beans and a glass of Chianti

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:05 | 4706032 nmewn
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I thought those close to fiddy million had food stamps (EBT) already?

Are we expected to believe there is another group of fifty million (to total a hundred million, roughly a third of the US population) that is "food insecure"...whatever the fuck that means?

I'm callin bullshit.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:29 | 4706106 Antarctico
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Are we expected to believe there is another group of fifty million (to total a hundred million, roughly a third of the US population) that is "food insecure"...whatever the fuck that means?

I'm callin bullshit.

Since the figure in the post is 49 million, care to explain your math that results in 100 million "food insecure"? If you can't provide any source for 100 million outside of your pie-hole, I'm going to have to call bullshit on you.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:41 | 4706146 Tortfeasor
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Must've been a common core kid. reading comprehension not a strong suit?
We have 50 mil on food stamps. Article say ~ 50 mil are "food insecure". Question was posed -does food insecure include food stamp recipients? Cause that is likely the case, but then beggars the question can you call yourself food insecure when a part (or all) of your food bill is taxpayer funded. Alternatively, is the original author saying 50 mil food stamps + another 50 mil food insecure? If so, that's a far sight more extreme than anything we've seen in reality.
Spoon fed enough for ya?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:59 | 4706205 nmewn
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Reading comprehension (or math) are obviously not his strengths...lol.

Perhaps the "food insecurity" of EBT users rests with the supposedly never ending debt issuance by .gov and the bankers (who lap it up at the public trough) is what he really doesn't feel quite right about, in the equation of "insecurity".

Possibly, he's starting to see his sworn enemy "the banker & .gov" as his only savior and not his nemesis.

Its very disconcerting to discover that the slavemaster you hate the most is the very one that puts bread on your table...but...being the good little slave he is, he'll put all that internal conflict aside and soldier on ;-)

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:20 | 4706288 Antarctico
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Reading comprehension (or math) are obviously not his strengths...lol.

Really, that's all you got?  You have nothing beyond your bluster that explains how you got a figure of 100 million out of the original post? I'm all up for debating what "food insecure" means, because until that term is clearly defined, I am going to say it sounds like a logic-soft weasel term, but for fuck's sake don't go doubling down on the dumb by throwing in some BS weasel math just to keep your world view fully inflated.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 07:05 | 4706952 nmewn
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One last time.

By conscience design or incompetent omission, the author does not stipulate that the (roughly) 50 million he is talking about ARE THE SAME 50 million which are currently on food stamps...

http://www.trivisonno.com/wp-content/uploads/Food-Stamps-Monthly.jpg

...leaving the UN-INFORMED reader to think there is a second group of 50 million...thus 100 million.

Because if we have 50 (again, roughly) million KNOWN to be on food stamps they are NOT by definition "food insecure" at all, as they know EXACTLY how much food they will get for free each month, that is called "food security", not insecurity.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:07 | 4706244 NoDebt
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I'm with nmewn and Tortfeasor.  This article is a massive distortion.  Nobody is starving in the US that can make it to the wefare office.  Their CHILDREN may be paying for parents who can't put down the crack pipe or the meth long enough to buy groceries with the money (or more likely traded those beneifts away for more drugs), but NOBODY goes hungry in the US who is looking for food.  NOBODY.

How many people you hear about that show up in hospital ERs suffering from malnutrition?  Nobody but kids of drug-addicted parents.  Yet this article would have you believe there's some kind of starvation epidemic in the US.  Horseshit.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:14 | 4706817 Serenity Now
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It's true.  Nobody is starving in the US, and nobody has ever starved in the US, unless it was self-inflicted.  

In the 20th century, at least 75 million people died of starvation around the world.  You can probably double that number.  For those of you who still don't get it, communism / socialism did that.  Not capitalism.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:13 | 4706262 FreedomGuy
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I'm with you, Tortfeasor. All this hunger in America stuff is BS. I hear it on the radio about 20% or more of kids going hungry each day. Yet, I look around and I see masses of fat kids that are twice the size they should be. Perhaps they suffer from food anxiety in that they won't get their next Hot Pocket or Snicker's ever half hour. BTW, the poorest kids are the fattest.

I want to know if the hungry families have smart phones, cable TV's and Air Jordan's. If they have none of those, they are underweight and they have no family then maybe I will believe there is some danger of starvation or prolonged hunger.

Liberal collectivists cannot have it both ways. They cannot simultaneously say that the 1000-fold expansion of the welfare state coincides with the expansion of hunger and poverty. Either their programs do not work (or expand the problem) or they are lieing. Take your pick.

I would not waste one dime on hunger in America. I would consider helping a third world country.

Anyone remember the article with the elephant sized guy on the Rascal about a week ago? That is more the truth of America.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:55 | 4706891 MeelionDollerBogus
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And it is a good question. EBT certainly must have limits per person per month and I eat healthy so I know it's not cheap, though some processed foods are much, much more expensive per gram, much less per gram of actual nutrients where you're not eating extra grams of slop/filler.

The next question is: if some places are really good to eat from, maybe not expensive like a country market (they still exist, right?) can you use EBT there? If not that's a loss of food security. Affordable, healthy food not able to be paid for because EBT is an on-grid technology that doesn't work where no device is offered to read it. (cough, cough, bitcoin iz fail, cough)

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:52 | 4706884 MeelionDollerBogus
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hm, garlic + oligarch probably will lead to some kind of indigestion or even a reaction to the vampire flesh.

I think I'll stick with the tried & true fava beans with a nice chiante. I'm taking this on expert advise, of course.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:58 | 4705999 fonzannoon
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 I live in a pretty decent section of NY. I will be on line at the supermarket and there are plenty of times where the person in front of me will be dressed nicer than I am paying with food stamps. The cashier will even roll their eyes and make a joke as we watch that person load up their SUV while i am paying. The fraud in that system is unbelievable. I don't think we are far away from the point where that person in front of me gets their face kicked in while no one does a thing to stop it.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:15 | 4706066 JohnG
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It won'tbe much longer Fonz.

I'm a pretty peaceful person if I can just be left mostly alone, but I find that in the past couple of years -- catcch myself thinking -- "I'd like to kick that assholes teeth in, fucking leech."

I hate shopping and try to avoid it as much as possible because it just pisses me off to see the crap that goes on that I'm literally paying for. 

It is usnsustainable and there will be a revolt.  I hope it happens before my children's lives are consumed by this madness.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:24 | 4706091 Dr. Engali
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I am a lot like you and understand your anger, but it's directed at the wrong people. There are going to be takers across all levels of the social economic spectrum, but it's the oligarchs in charge who perpetuate a system like this who need their teeth kicked in.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:31 | 4706115 JohnG
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I agree there is a "class" spectrum.  There also used to be poor farms where derelict people could go to at least have a subsistence level of living.  This so called "liberal progressive" political climate we have now is poison.

I call it like I see it: it is communism. 

Its deadly to society and it has to be killed.

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:49 | 4706178 infinity8
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It's the oligarchs that foster a system like this. . .

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:16 | 4706278 FreedomGuy
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It's not damned oligarchs. It's stupid liberal Congressmen who pander to the bread and circuses crowd. It is job security for liberal statists. It is job insecurity for any conservatives who consistently oppose it.

I am nearly to the point where I want the whole damned system to implode and then we will get a glimpse of reality on many different levels.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:43 | 4706876 MeelionDollerBogus
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THOSE ARE THE OLIGARCHS.

Did you get hit in the head with a hammer? There are NO LIBERALS, NO CONSERVATIVES. That's a TRICK. They are all taking the same brown envelopes and working for the same corporations when they leave or in Reid's case, at the same time as a double-timing lobbyist & senator.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:39 | 4706339 Yes_Questions
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Thanks Doc.  

 

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 03:06 | 4706774 Strat-O-Sphere
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My thoughts exactly Dr. Engali. This spite and stigma associated with the unemployed, poor, disabled or welfare recipients is the product of Murdoch MSM at Fux spews especially. The biggest welfare moochers and rorters are politicians, oligarchs, banksters and multinationals, who benefit from a strong state, but never pay for it in taxes. Meanwhile they enjoy humungous and often severely overpriced government contracts, bail outs, and legislation that protects their monopolies, or duopolies. The welfare recipients get pocket change compared to that, regardless of whether they are legitimate, or whether they are rorting the system.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:23 | 4706821 Serenity Now
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That's a lie.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:37 | 4706874 MeelionDollerBogus
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No it isn't. Some expenses are reported by law for government workers, some by corporations, and some is off-sheet but it's there.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:25 | 4706077 Dr. Engali
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People like that deserve what they get and their time will come.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:31 | 4706112 fonzannoon
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I totally hear both of you. I think my point is just simply that there are things that went unnoticed a few years ago, that are being noticed today, and it won't be so long from now when these situations like that person screwing the system in broad daylight takes place, they may find a different response from those around them. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:36 | 4706132 IridiumRebel
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Well, it is unsustainable. Especially when you have folks are spending EBT funds at titty bars.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:42 | 4706140 fonzannoon
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I think you have to prove that you got milk out of the titty to be able to use ebt funds at a titty bar, and i'm talking like a glass of milk at least.

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:00 | 4706221 IridiumRebel
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Try Velma....she pours 2%.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:36 | 4706872 MeelionDollerBogus
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hey, vitamin T is an essential part of every diet.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:31 | 4706116 IridiumRebel
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I'm torn cuz the more people who game the system will tear the POS down quicker, but it takes food outta legitimate folk's mouthes. 

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 03:13 | 4706781 stacking12321
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i'm not.

there's no such thing as legitimate folks - at least not so legitimate as to deserve having working people robbed at gunpoint to feed them.

and while i will cheer those who game the system and who will bring it down faster, i don't happen to do that myself, maybe i'm too lazy? or maybe interacting with the gov in any way leaves me with a slimy feeling?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:25 | 4706135 Shad_ow
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Experience the same thing often here in Alabama.

At Christmas, a woman paid with her card.  Her cart was filled with meats, dates, cakes, and nuts.  Mine was filled nicely with what we needed for a nice Christmas dinner.  I paid with what we earned after having a portion deducted so she could eat better than my family.

 

O.T.  Please say a prayer tonight for us here.  The weather is showing its power over man, tornadoes everywhere.  To others who live in The South, I pray you and your families are safe.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:52 | 4706369 astitchintime
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Shad_ow ... heard and done.  I'm in Virginia and I will be praying and thinking of y'all down further south.  Stay safe and take good care.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:37 | 4706464 TheMeatTrapper
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@Shad_ow:

I'm in Hoover. Monitoring 2 meters. We've got a tornado at Brookwood heading right up I-59. It's about 20 miles from me heading this way. Hopefully it'll veer north. My home is on the lee side of Shades Mountain so we're usually OK. Going to be a long night. I'm staying up all night while the family sleeps. 

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:26 | 4706822 Serenity Now
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Shad_ow,

My family is in the South, and my prayers are with you all!  You take care, friend.  :)

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:28 | 4706868 MeelionDollerBogus
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Just how much does get allocated per month on EBT?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:04 | 4706003 Cognitive Dissonance
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Considering much of what we eat today, at least the so called 'processed food' found in grocery stores and never on the farm, isn't actually 'food', these people suffering from "Food Insecurity" (what a curious phrase) might just be the lucky ones.

Why is it that fresh food is many times more expensive than processed food that supposedly comes from (at least some) fresh food?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:05 | 4706035 john39
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That's easy, they want most of us dead. This way almost no one knows that mass murder is an ongoing event.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:23 | 4706864 MeelionDollerBogus
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But not right away. The ideal is that you die before you retire but not before all the slaving can be extracted from you while you make babies to replace you as future slaves from desperate poverty & over-population. That's the trick. It's very Darwinian.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:16 | 4706072 Groundhog Day
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CD i'm sure you are asking a rhetorical question by all your excellent comments and articles. 

I think it is by design, the masters of the universe have long ago decided to remove Home Economics, wood shop, metal shop and basic cooking classes as electives from High school.  This is why most individuals can't budget, college grads don't realize that they have been robbed and indebted, people can't cook a simple meal from scratch, people can't repair basic things around the house or change the oil in the car.  Corporitism at it's finest.  How else can MCD sell billions and billions of happy meals.  If people realized they can buy the raw materials of a burger and make it themselves cheaper, the fat cats (pun intended) in the board room wouldn't get their massive bonus and compensation packages.

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:50 | 4706181 Cognitive Dissonance
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It is rare for Mrs. Cog and I to eat at a fast food joint since moving to the mountain. But the other day when visiting civilization we opted for a visit to Wendy's for some lunch. Even though we both had salads we still walked away bloated and with "Wendy's tummy".

This now happens all the time to us regardless of where we eat. Just use the fast food name followed by "tummy" and you know what we have experienced over the last ten months. This includes the so-called 'casual dinning' places where we have the so called 'food' served to us on plates rather than plastic trays. Different 'food', higher prices, same belly ache.

I am becoming extremely "food insecure' about eating anything outside of our home.....and even some stuff in our home that came from a supermarket.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:17 | 4706265 NickVegas
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You are not alone, my friend. Eating fast food is a 3 out 5 I get sick proposition. Tastes alright going down, artificial flavors, salt, and msg, then wack, the body says this is not food for you. No soup for you. They turned the corner in 2008 I believe, from edible to mild poison. McDonald's dollar menu did it IMHO. The McDonald's Walmart effect in America.

 

Wendy's has seen the most dramatic change. They used to be a decent value, now you get fast food sickness. Heck, that will be a viable disease during the food riots to come. He perished from fast food sickness. The fast food sickness was fast moving, and claimed another gruesome victim. I could go on, but the body knows what the minds refuses to believe.

GM (the herbicide inside TM) food, high fructose corn syrup, artificial flavors, preservatives, MSG.

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:15 | 4706269 Hulk
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Amen to that COG. The carbon based wife unit and I went to  a restaurant in Bosney France last summer and were quite surprised when we didn't get restaurant tummy. The French do know how to do food. I dont even bother going to restaurants in the states anymore, might as well flush the cash down the toilet and avoid the wear on the car...

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:49 | 4706176 Antarctico
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Why is it that fresh food is many times more expensive than processed food that supposedly comes from (at least some) fresh food?

Possibly because the cost to process fresh food into shelf stable crap like Kaft Macaroni and Chesse and Totino's Pizza Rolls is less than the cost to transport and store fresh foods. Also, fresh food have a very, very short shelf life, meaning more wasted and discarded food at the stupor-market vs. processed foods which are designed to have extended shelf lives, meaning less wasted food and less lost profit to the retailer. Remember, any lost profit due to waste has to be figured into an item's final price at the store. Just imagine how long a fresh, unfrozen steak lasts vs. the self-life of a can of Spam, and then imagine how many unsold steaks have to be thrown out because their sell-date has expired vs. a can of Spam which has a sell-date extending years into the future.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:11 | 4706851 MeelionDollerBogus
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Having worked at a grocery store I can tell you the easy solution isn't price. Price doesn't make up for the waste. The solution is inventory prediction so that total demanded units are factored into new orders. Price will become an output factor of that, not an input factor, so a healthy % profit is still earned but if demand is too low the item will be stocked less. If that means fresh food will go bad that means only enough is ordered to handle the expected sales. A lot of it's algorithms now, a human just reviews to sign off on what looks like it makes sense.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:59 | 4706214 quasimodo
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Our basic rule of thumb is only foods that are "grown by God".......call it nature if you like, whatever, but you get my drift. Sure, we do have some snacks like chips, etc at times, but I will NEVER allow the shit that is called "all natural" when it contains 20 ingredients in the shopping carts. Kids get whole food vitamins, never get flu shots and when they start to come down with something get lots of real vit C, not the lab made shit.

Oil of Oregano is a great natural antibiotic, and the best part is you don't need to go the clinic for visit.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 05:04 | 4706849 MeelionDollerBogus
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Youtube: PeakSurvival (hot girl too), Vitamin C from pine needle tea

http://youtu.be/5W_ceNJpXHA

too bad pine needles are so damn rare, right?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:58 | 4706007 Yellowhoard
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The poor people in America are the fattest in the world.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:01 | 4706015 naughtius maximus
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Fat people are hungry too

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:05 | 4706036 knukles
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That's why they're fat.
That and letting everybody onto the FSA Express where they don't have to care.
Free Obies for All

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:20 | 4706083 nmewn
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There is not a convenience store that you go into these days that does not prominently advertise "We Accept EBT!"

Convenience stores...Handi Ways...7-Elevens...Kangaroos...whatever they're regionally called in your neck of the woods.

And people are "food insecure"? Why...because they use EBT for lottery tickets now?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:20 | 4706084 SHEEPFUKKER
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Fatties probably worry about food more than skinnies. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:36 | 4706134 mrpxsytin
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It's a result of being calorie rich and nutrient poor. A high fructose corn syrup diet has sufficient calories but totally insufficient nutrients. The body will therefore continue to eat in an attempt to satisfy the need for nutrients. The perfect example is a pregnant woman who has insatiable cravings for certain foods and at the same time packs weight on like crazy. A woman who has ample stores of nutrients and a nutrient rich diet should not get fat in pregnancy. 

I know it's hard to believe but those fat people are actually starving. Starving of nutrients.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:26 | 4706098 prains
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totally get the sentiment, not a fan of fat people but just want to point out, calories are completely different from nutrition. a lot of the obesity you're seeing is the human body looking for nutrition and way over consuming calories to find it.

 

what that means is the processed food they eat has NO nutritional value in vitamins and minerals so the body is actually starving but has been overdosed on calories looking for real nutrition

 

the human body is an amazing machine, just needs the proper fuel and then it doesn't get fat. diets are a complete fraud

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:41 | 4706149 newdoobie
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OMG, went on a junk food binge back in high school (just because I could)! Porked out on all kinds of junk and by 2 in the afternoon was absolutly stuffed, and starving!

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:12 | 4706409 prains
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....your point being? you were full from overeating calories in bulk but what your body actually absorbed that was useful for biomechanics was negligable??

 

having an 80 IQ is not a disease

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:02 | 4706020 Zirpedge
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SHTF Plan, develop a taste for poor and fat?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:09 | 4706252 Youri Carma
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Yeah, love you fat mock ass Fuck The Poor! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBuC_0-d-9Y

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 20:59 | 4706008 Yellowhoard
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.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:03 | 4706012 q99x2
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And food prices just jumped through the roof this last week. At least they did in California. Up about 10 percent in one week.

Won't be long now. Kurt Vonnegut says war breaks out everywhere once the Kokabona girls tummies start groweling.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:07 | 4706043 knukles
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You noticed that, too, huh?
Exactamundo, big time Charley in a week or two....

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:13 | 4706059 fonzannoon
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food/energy/healthcare etc. prices are exploding higher and crushing people.  Just imagine how bad it will be when we have inflation...

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:26 | 4706097 IridiumRebel
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I'm staying at home converting fiat into more education and taking care of my daughter so I am Mr.Mom and do the shopping...I pretty much always have from a background in the food biz, but I showed my wife what we spend on food now and the inflation. She was appalled. I bet places like Fresh Market and Whole Foods are seeing less Hipsters....they have to suck it up and drag the beard to, gulp, the IGA. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:18 | 4706282 IndianaJohn
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IridiumRebel, -- except for the deli and bread counter at Whole Foods, IGA staples taste better.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:50 | 4706179 Groundhog Day
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limes and lemons are 3 for 2.99 here in NJ...  WTF! They used to be 6 or 8 for a dollar.  Sucks cuz my kids only drink fresh homemade lemonaide

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:02 | 4706389 astitchintime
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OMG, I know right!  I didn't really make much of it when CNBS was chirping about <gag> chipotle going to have to raise their prices because of a lime shortage.  Then, last week I was shopping and wanted some limes to go along with a 12-pack of Corona and ... are you KIDDING me ??  Limes were $.75 EACH and the limes were the size of walnuts !!!

Needless to say, I ended up roughing the Coronas lime-less

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:52 | 4706189 Groundhog Day
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a box of cereal is only half full now....more then one way to inflate

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 15:21 | 4709036 mkkby
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A 16oz bag of chips is labeled "party sized" and comes in a huge bag, less than half full.  Not that I would ever buy that crap.  I just thought it was funny how they fool the sheep.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:01 | 4706017 headless blogger
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You wouldn't know it where I live; gluttons abound!

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:03 | 4706024 Billy Shears
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Only in America; "Food Insecurity"!?! Someone has a bad case of Pantry Envy.

This country is so full of shit it is a wonder we can get anyone to take us seriously.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:08 | 4706047 john39
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Real quality food is hard to come in the US. Buy any raw milk recently? Oh yeah, generally not allowed. You know, because they care about your safety.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 12:27 | 4708189 krispkritter
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Luckily I can get raw cow and goat milk locally.  Cracks me up that each bottle has to be prominently labled 'For Pet Consumption Only'.  Meanwhile the store brands are full of antibiotics and pus from what I read.  Yummy.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:03 | 4706025 flyonmywall
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You get what you vote for, or rather, for what the dumb majority votes for.

Karma is a bitch.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:06 | 4706039 Parrotile
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With the record low head count of the US Beefstock Herd, combined with significant reductions in Pork supply (Porcine Infectious Diarrhoea), "affordable" meat choices are getting very restricted (and costly). Add in the consequences of below average rainfall, also anticipated far below average snow melt, and the outlook for arable farming isn't so rosy either.

What if Mother Nature provides yet another less-than-perfect year for agriculture? Scarcity always translates to cost rises for the final consumer, especially when those playing the "Commodity Futures" game take their "fair share" of proceeds.

Never mind - the Government Statistical bodies are all reassuring in the common meme, that "inflation is under control" and of no real concern.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:52 | 4706188 Tortfeasor
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I also notice that these (mostly) common occurrences are paraded on MSM as major tragedies during inflationary times. As if to lull us into thinking the price hikes are due to "unforeseen" events and not money printing. Every year there's some orange juice calamity. Every damn year? Bah.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:06 | 4706041 Zirpedge
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I sometimes supect that the obese are preparing for a food crisis that I havent forseen, because I just got back from the store and the shelves were packed.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:09 | 4706042 q99x2
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Give the poor and hungry SUVs so they can drive out of where they are living in hunger at. So they can drive to the Hamptons. There are refrigerators and freezors filled with food just waiting for them.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:13 | 4706061 yogibear
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Kind of a beacon of where the mobs would like to flock when it all comes apart.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 02:00 | 4706702 Parrotile
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Kind of a beacon of where the mobs WILL flock TO when it all comes apart.

(note the slight adjustment!)

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:10 | 4706051 yogibear
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Give the hungary people guns and tell them where the oligarchs reside and it's amazing what happens..

In 3rd world countries, kidnappings are common. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:12 | 4706060 cherry picker
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I know what it is like not to have anything to eat for days.

Until it is experienced, no use making a comment one way or another.

 

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:55 | 4706844 MeelionDollerBogus
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indeed. 3 days max for me. What got me through is that I had been eating healthy for years up to that point so I had enough nutrients still in me to not suffer horribly, though obviously hunger itself is not pleasant. I didn't get sick, I just got really, really fuckin' hungry.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:14 | 4707289 TheMeatTrapper
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I fast on a regular basis. It's good for you, and it prepares you mentally to understand that food is not something that you must have 3x a day or you will die. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:17 | 4706075 Caviar Emptor
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And the oligarchs have programmed you to perfection: hunger and poverty deniers ! Always the people in the class one notch higher are encouraged to shit on the ones just below. It's a monkey thang

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:33 | 4706117 nmewn
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Well fine then.

When the squirrel monkey's go and get 500lb oligarch gorilla's to steal the chimpanzees bananas, the chimps are supposed to enjoy the theft and eat leaves instead? 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:07 | 4706247 Caviar Emptor
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Chimps are intellectuals..gosh didn't you see Planet Of The Apes?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:45 | 4706160 chemystical
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"hunger and poverty deniers"

Don't confuse apathy for denial.

Choices.  I made mine, and when I see someone else choose hair extensions, fingernail extensions, iPhones, tatoos, alcohol, cigarettes, crack pipes, meth, addiction to .gov, etc, .... INSTEAD of education and work and a modicum of self-reliance, well then excuse me for not giving a flying fuck whether they rot.  My brother's keeper?  Fuck that.  Parasites have one huge fucking family, and I will not voluntarily contribute to their growth.  Neither do I want to feed the 0.1%'ers.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:05 | 4706240 Caviar Emptor
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Such passion! I like it. Agree bout not being your bro's keeper. But disagree that poverty is always by choice or by idiocy. Fact is the pie is shrinking and some are just going to get the crumbs.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:17 | 4707304 TheMeatTrapper
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Poverty <> hunger.

The poor are never interested in flour, oil, rice, beans, butter, cheese or any other staples. They are interested in shit in a bag. 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:19 | 4706080 One And Only
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Pretty soon Obama and the Democrats will get their wish.

We will all starve equally.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:23 | 4706089 IridiumRebel
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Tell the military industrial fuckplex to eat shit and we could feed the world many times over. Do we really need an airbase in Qaasuitsup, Greenland?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:25 | 4706093 rsnoble
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Not to sound insensitive..........but most meatloaf does contain fillers.......oats, crackers etc.  I prefer bread crumbs.  All I can say is if you ever use oats make damn sure there not over a week or so old or yuck.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:28 | 4706101 IridiumRebel
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You could use worm meat filler like McDs too.....MMMM WORMY.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:02 | 4706392 Old Poor Richard
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McD's already busted the worm myth by pointing out that pound for pound, worms cost notably more than "beef" (beef being defined as the slime resulting from forcing the nearly bare carcass of a butchered cow through a sieve at 10,000 psi).

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:22 | 4706437 IridiumRebel
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The ammonia soaked stuff right?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:54 | 4706196 econdata
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Hello, 

  This is my first post after reading Zerohedge for a few years. As of late, I have been feeling like something is wrong in our economy / country. The Dow is at an all time high, home sales are rebounding ( or they were), retail sales are up, etc. Yet, I see so many people struggling. One cannot help but get confused.

 After seeing a report about how the payroll taxes are increasing, I became suspicious. I know the sunset reduction from 6.2 to 4 ended in 2013. This would naturally show a big jump in collections. If our nations gross wages were a total of $100.00 and we paid 4% in payroll tax, the increase would result in paying $6.20 in payroll tax.

The graph (see link) shows a jump from 1750 billion in payroll taxes for 2012 to around 1950 billion in 2013. The increase should be much more significant. Especially with the increased tax rate. This can only mean aggregate wages are dropping and no one is making money as a wage earner.   

 http://www.yardeni.com/Pub/treasreceipts.pdf

 

 The next concern I took a close look at was the immigration bill. The questions everyone should ask is why isnt congress trying to offer protectionism for American jobs. How can you let in illegal workers when you have your countrymen starving? 

Most of us know about the clause that will favor new legally statused workers over American workers by waiving the ACA costs for employers.  

https://cis.org/edwards/double-standard-obamacare-favors-illegals

 

  The above mentioned issues should clearly tell everyone our economy sucks and the government is not working in our favor. While I do not believe in vast conspiracy theories, I do know money and power collect. 

It seems large multi nationals get politicians to vote and wirte bills in certain ways. I doubt these congressmen even know the full effects of what they are doing. They think they will get rewarded with contributions and some peopel will benefit from the legislation they pass. 

 

  I would like to hear your thoughts. How should we start waking others up and change the tide? Massive boycotts on multi nationals? Start a economic movement to buy locally?  

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:04 | 4706234 IridiumRebel
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Hello! You cannot wake others up, but more are awake. Trust me, folks here have tried. People have to "Come to Jesus(or whatever/anti-religion folks welcome)" moment. Just takes those groggy and coming to and sprinkle them with the truth; not by promotion, but attraction.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:05 | 4706386 KickIce
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Agree, it's a tough pill to swallow to come to the realization that we have become nothing but aggressive bullies spreading misery via debt and theft of others natural resources; of course all wrapped neatly in the American flag.  Hey, with Obama prez I can say all wrapped in the American fag, I guess technically it would be Kenyan fag.  Ah hell, nevermind.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:28 | 4706309 FreedomGuy
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I reject the multi-nationals conspiracy. It is not that I doubt they try to get every economic advantage possible, it's just that that is not the source of the problem or the poverty. Frankly, no businesses can do well for long with widespread poverty. How can you sell a $5 cup of coffee to an unemployed guy?

The source of the problem...in my not so humble view is as simple as governments and central planning. It is an octopus with tentacle everywhere. The rise of the omnipresent all controlling State will correlate with loss of freedom and economic health. To wit: the Fed keeps interest rates artificially government controlled at zero. That helps some like housing but grandma makes exactly 12 cents even if she has a million dollars stored in the bank. In fact, grandma has to start eating into the principle to survive. She is actually getting poorer though goverenment "help".

ObamaCare is a first class fire breathing dragon economy killer on a hundred levels. Besides raising the cost of current care it makes 30 hours full time so hours get cut, staff gets cut and fewer not more people have benefits. So, now you need to work three jobs to support yourself and that costs more, plus it drives you nuts. Imagine raising the minimum wage to $15/hr as the Dems want to do. Even fewer hours and no doubt many small businesses will shutter. Now you are unemployed because of government goodness. You cannot go live with grandma either because she is just barely making it.

ZH readers could do a hundred other interventions from fake energy companies, bailouts, government credit default swaps, regulatory strangulation, and on and on and on. What is the common problem? Government intervention and the religious belief in the benificence, wisdom and capabilities of the State.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:51 | 4706842 MeelionDollerBogus
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"Frankly, no businesses can do well for long with widespread poverty. How can you sell a $5 cup of coffee to an unemployed guy"

No need - you hire the person for a wage that's too low with no benefits to sell the $5 coffee to someone who can afford it. That way you have an assured slave-worker populace. When over-population stops that desperation stops. Until then the only other safety-valve is to grow your own food or immigrate.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 04:20 | 4711094 FreedomGuy
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That's not the way it works. If that worked the old Soviet Union would still be going strong. You cannot cut your way to riches. Ask anyone who runs a company. Getting bigger pieces of smaller pies is not an economic success engine.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 05:10 | 4715165 MeelionDollerBogus
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No, the old soviet union didn't have customers to sell to, it has a socialist republic. I'm talking about a corporate fascist slave-fiefdom. They don't operate at all in the same way. I'm talking about how Los Angeles & New York, Toronto and Vancouver operate this very second.

You cut your way to riches by cutting those who are going to fall anyways, you just take them down directly. Much like the wolf will take the sick, weak sheep first that already would be doomed. When you think about it, Mr. Wolf is really doing the herd a favour.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:55 | 4706199 thamnosma
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Basically this article is saying the 50 million on food stamps are "food insecure".   That's a gross overstatement.  Certainly some on food stamps have barely enough to feed the family, many many others are scamming the system and doing just fine on the EBT cards.  I suppose this is another argument for more wealth redistribution to the non-productive class.

Let's also add in the uneducated, lazy aspect of food shopping and preparation.  Eating processed crap instead of cooking rice, beans, veggies and meat at home is much of the reason these food dollars don't go very far.  

However, we all must admit that food inflation is real and it's going to hit those at the bottom first.  What's left of the middle class will be next.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 21:59 | 4706218 williambanzai7
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"Food Insecurity" does anyone know who coined this doublespeak?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:01 | 4706223 snoozinjoe
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Then why is obesity so prevalent in the lower socioeconomic strata of western societies?

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:04 | 4706394 Dr. Engali
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Because the bulk of the shit they are eating isn't food. It's all a bunch of empty calories. There are so many additives and artificial flavores that's it's pseudo food. Hell Taco Bell is putting sawdust (cellulose) in their meat. Tell me that's good for you. Add to this the fact that the bulk of them will drink a sugary beverage over a glass of water and it's a little wonder why we have an obesity problem.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:32 | 4706407 KickIce
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Probably a better subject/description is the number of Americans dealing with malnutrition because they are unable to afford healthy foods.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:03 | 4706230 Youri Carma
Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:03 | 4706231 james.connolly
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Obesity is the ONLY known problem with FOOD-STAMPS

The FSA tends to buy cheap easy to eat foods which are high in shit that makes you dumb, fat, and ugly.

People who grow their own food, and prepare their own food from scratch, are the same kind of people that 'save money' and learn a skill or trade and make a self-supporting lifestyle.

Those who belong to the FSA tend to sit on their ass, and then get up when hungry and look for micro-wave food in the freezer, shit that makes you fat.

It's an endless cycle, ... but HUNGER would not be the problem, in my mind the problem in the USA is OBESITY.

 

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:20 | 4706285 Ignorance is bliss
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If your a charitable person, consider donating to your local food kitchen.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:47 | 4706838 MeelionDollerBogus
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Every year my employer does a garden for the food bank. I'm hoping this year I get to help out using stuff I've learned for the Mittleider gardening method.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:26 | 4706305 DrData02
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Well, the Democrats run the country.  This must be part of their agenda.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:40 | 4706342 lasvegaspersona
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All 'hunger' studies done in the USA are political and suspect.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 22:44 | 4706351 lasvegaspersona
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All 'diet' studies are suspect. Unless you know if the grop is fit or fat the data is meaningless. Meat may not be good if it is going down the gullet of 250 pounder it is probably fine when consumed by a 22 year old with low body fat and a high energy life style. They are mostly done for headlines and really provide no useful information.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:04 | 4706396 Addibrux
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I'd posit that if instead of food-stamps, the government distributed a nutritional bug paste, more then a few problems would solve themselves, all the way around. On the other hand, when my cleaning lady needs extra cash, and timing doesn't allow for extra-curricular "activity", being able to give her a grocery list, and only having to pay .75 on the dollar by reciept off her EBT card, I feel I'm helping her that way as well.

Mon, 04/28/2014 - 23:08 | 4706405 Old Poor Richard
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You get, right, that the definition of food insecurity is essentially not having food within arm's reach?  "Goes to bed 'not sure' how she'll feed her kids."  "Wonders from where the next meal will magically appear..." but it always does.  Food insecurity is another made up farce of a statistic invented by socialists to create an imaginary crisis out of thin air.   Akin to "alcohol related accidents" which don't mean the driver has had a drop to drink, only that alcohol was somehow "related."

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 00:14 | 4706541 Seek_Truth
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When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two poundsa of wheat for a day’s wages,b and six poundsc of barley for a day’s wages,d and do not damage the oil and the wine!” - Revelation 6:5,6

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 04:45 | 4706836 MeelionDollerBogus
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Honestly I got 2 pound of pasta made from wheat on sale for just $2. I would hardly think I should have my wage reduced to that per day. THEN AGAIN back in the day one could also go out & hunt/trap very easily, it was expected, to get meat, you didn't rely solely on a market. Therefore that wasn't a 'wage' paid to you by someone else. I guess it depends on the era & geography but before the time of megacities I'm sure hunting & trapping was common everywhere, and fishing for your meals.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 09:24 | 4707339 TheMeatTrapper
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You can still trap for meat in urban areas. I do it all the time. I love catching organic, free range, steroid free animals for supper behind the grocery store filled with crap 'food'. 

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Thu, 05/01/2014 - 05:12 | 4715168 MeelionDollerBogus
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Good to know. For now I don't want to. What's around here is fox, coyote, rabbit & of course song-birds & squirrels.

If I decide to try for it I'll go for rabbit first.

I was surprised to see rabbit once recently at the grocery store. It was 22/lb and I shook my head and moved on.

I have friends that raise their own rabbits, usually for angora fur rather than meat but they've done meat too. No 22/lb for rabbit for me, they are not exactly rare or hard to breed.

Tue, 04/29/2014 - 01:01 | 4706618 QQQBall
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Food Insecurity... priceless.. HUnger is so 1930's.

 

 

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