Ron Paul Redux: Warns Against Arming Land Management Officials In 1997

Tyler Durden's picture

Via The Economic Noise blog,

Speaking on the House of Representatives floor on September 17, 1997, then-Rep. Ron Paul warned of the “massive buildup of a virtual army of armed regulators.”

Paul, the chairman and founder of The Ron Paul Institute, proceeded to comment in his speech that, with the number of armed federal employees approaching 60,000, the Secretary of the Interior was pushing for even the Bureau of Land Management to be armed.

With the continuing rise of SWAT over the following 16 years, the number of armed US government employees continued to grow.

According to the bulletin - Federal Law Enforcement Officers, 2008 of the Bureau of Justice Statistics - by September of 2008 “federal agencies employed approximately 120,000 full-time law enforcement officers who were authorized to make arrests and carry firearms in the United States,” with 255 of them working for BLM.

We saw the United States government’s armed agents in action recently at the Bundy ranch in Nevada. We also saw them back off, at least for now, when confronted by armed protestors. Paul’s concluding sentences of his 1997 speech seem apropos:

"The gun in the hands of law-abiding citizens serves to hold in check arrogant and aggressive government. Guns in the hands of the bureaucrats do the opposite. The founders of this country fully understood this fact."

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PacOps's picture

Well, we elected and keep re-electing these @ssholes! Exception Rep. Paul.

whstlblwr's picture

They hate us for our freedom

JuliaS's picture

... and they work for the government.

chumbawamba's picture

Ron Paul is clearly an idiot.

I am Chumbawamba.

Xibalba's picture

A true enemy of 'freedom'.  And I use that term loosely

chumbawamba's picture

He certainly is in the land of Sardonica.  And also in the Land of the Insane (a.k.a. United States).

I am Chumbawamba.

Prisoners_dilemna's picture

"Truth is treason in an Empire of lies" Ron Paul

james.connolly's picture

'Truth' will get you deleted, banned and IP blocked
on ZH, ... yeh tell us about 'truth', I want to
hear some

The truth is that NOBODY can handle the truth, not
the unicorns, not the PTB, and not the cops, or the
judges and hangmen.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

Ron Paul is clearly an idiot.

I am Chumbawamba.

Chumbawamba is clearly an idiot.

I am Dick Buttkiss.

And the state and its apologists can kiss my ass.

MontgomeryScott's picture

The 'Paul-tards' (Paulistas, Paulites, Paulbots, Ron-Paulians, Whack-jobs, Nutcases, Freaks, CONSTITUTIONAL PATRIOT ENEMIES OF THE STATE) LIKE ME tried to warn everyone I knew when it was still early enough to stop this crap that is NOW happening.


Choom-ba (wamba) is simply thrashing around in the chains of the prison that he has allowed to enslave him (by his aquiescence) to those who seek to destroy all ownership of personal property (and with it, all self-determination, to the point of death by the State). If he was in the CONUS in '08 and '12, do you think he voted for the Choomster (and the first Wookie)? Well, maybe it was Valerie Jarrett and Bloomberg and Reid and Rahm Emmanuel that he REALLY voted for, but he doesn't know these names, I suppose.

Choombawamba is like Pink Floyd, in several respects. HE wants to be comfortably numb to the truth (to the point of death, I think).

I could be incorrect, however, Ass-Kisser. He MIGHT have been 'sarcastic' in his comments:

I don't know about YOUR tenacity and mores in posting what you have done, I think, 'Dick Butkiss'. You seem to be deflecting the comment, and hence the story (and accompanianing video link) regarding President Paul.

I suppose you might be like Mata Hari, simply 'working the (chat)room' (as in the CIA directives from the White House), in order to garner 'intelligence'.

Tell us: Do you think that Clive Bundy is a RAYCISS?

HANNITY sure does! You LIKE hannity, don't you?








4 wheel drift's picture

and YOU (chumba-CACA) are CLEARLY a fucking SHITHEAD....


probably a hypocrite BURRO-crap (bureaucrat)



hobopants's picture

Voice in the wilderness, we need more like him.

Murf_DaSurf's picture




At 3:55 wow! Clinton was faster than Obama at getting an enemy audited by the IRS in only (4) Days!


No Red Tape, boy those were the days!

American Dreams's picture

You, me, we, dont elect shit.  You, me, we votes are an exercise in futility.  They do not matter, PERIOD.  Fixed, they are as in "fixed" according to the powers at hand.  The sooner we all understand this the better off we will will all be.  Wee can effect change but it will come from the tip of the sword not the tip of a pen or finger that you might vote with.

These are all american dreams


kchrisc's picture

Let me say, if no one showed up at the polls, they would still be 'elected.'


The lesson of Waco is, "No more Wacos."

JLee2027's picture

Well, we elected and keep re-electing these @ssholes! Exception Rep. Paul.

Electronic wink wink votes keep them in office, not people votes. Until they start using and counting paper ballots only and in public, the results cannot be verified or trusted. 

rodocostarica's picture

I love Ron Paul. He is the only thing to make me hopeful. You rock Ron!

McMolotov's picture

Years from now, it will be discovered that Ron Paul was a benevolent terminator, sent back from the future by John Connor to warn us about what would happen.

Grande Tetons's picture

It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.

Terminator 2. 

Fox-Scully's picture

Years (decades) from now, it will be learned that Ron Paul is an alien plant trying to set the fledgling hunan race on the correct path for membership in the continuum.

American Dreams's picture

Hope is not a stradegy.  Step up!

These are all american dreams



james.connolly's picture

Hope brought us OBAMA

Fuck HOPE,

Our only 'HOPE' is if people get off their ass and
risk their lives.

Hopeless say's I.

4 wheel drift's picture

well......     while i wished you were right.....


reality tells me......      for this shit-system to EVER work (in some degree of reason) again.....



bania's picture

The doctor is in da house!

Hohum's picture

The Founders also understood that free blacks and slaves should not have guns.  They also understood that gun manufacutring in America was practically non-existent at the time and the "rabble" wouldn't get them.

TrustWho's picture

Ho,...What are you talking about? Percentage of citizens owning guns in 1776 was much, much, much higher then than now.

BandGap's picture

Stands close to 40% now.

What was it back in 1776? Bet you it was about the same, certainly not "much, much higher". If not, show me.

What was your point?

chemystical's picture

"Gun ownership is particularly high compared to other common items. For example, in 813 itemized male inventories from the 1774 Jones national database, guns are listed in 54% of estates, compared to only 30% of estates listing any cash, 14% listing swords or edged weapons, 25% listing Bibles, 62% listing any book, and 79% listing any clothes."

You're free to be a tool, but don't be a lazy tool.  Considering that a longarm was one of the means to put meat on the table and provide defense, you'd have to be an idiot (lazy or otherwise) to envision a Colonial America without a lot of firearms.

I suppose that your revisionist ilk has the colonists either throwing rocks at the hostiles or waiting for the cops to show up and take a report.  (FYI constables at the time were few and far between. America's Founding Fathers were more self-reliant and community-reliant than tools like you)

disabledvet's picture

We didn't have automatic weapons in 1776.

And we were better shots then too.

Hunting is a passion of a bunch of family members of mine...but the purpose of just packing...with one in the chamber no an accident waiting to happen.

And yes...all meetings were conducted with loaded weapons left at the door...neatly organized of course "back in the day."

No rounds were chambered.


4 Freedoms's picture

Guns were more complicated then.  You needed a couple people just to load a single shot, if you needed it quick.  More often than not, your powder was wet, your flint didn't spark enough, or it would misfire. 

I think anyone should be allowed to own a gun as long as it only uses vintage 1776 technology.

chemystical's picture

"Guns were more complicated then."

Rubbish.  Utter rubbish.  I shoot muzzle loading during the season, and, while it is slower than todays firearms, it is not more complicated.  I've little doubt you've never fired one (or any gun?).  If you did, and you think it's complicated, then you should not be allowed to play with Legos.

"I think anyone should be allowed to own a gun as long as it only uses vintage 1776 technology."

And if the time comes when you find yourself needing to be defended by a fellow citizen armed with a gun, well, then I'll certainly respect your wishes and allow you to fend for yourself.  Tool.

Beau Tox's picture

Not true.  Free blacks and slaves fought to defeat the British in my home, New Orleans.


pupdog1's picture

Apparently the colonials shopped for their food at Pick 'n Save.

junction's picture

Paul should have said: "Machine guns in the hands of the bureaucrats do the opposite."

Jack Burton's picture

Ron Paul, a man for our times. No wonder the elites hate the man!

kchrisc's picture

“Truth is treason in an empire of lies”.

                                                             Ron Paul

james.connolly's picture

The JDL, ADL, and AIPAC call Ron Paul the 5th most
'dangerous anti-semite' in the world.

Why would ZH put such a man on a pedestal?

Colonel Klink's picture

Because the JDL, ADL, and AIPAC are the first greatest threat to this nation as it was founded, that's why.

SharkBit's picture

Wow! The dude was way ahead of his time.  Come on People.  Time to give Mr. Paul his due.  Certainly more principled than any of the other muppets in Washington.

honkadoo's picture

Interesting how he (and all other 'conservatives') shut up about it between 2000 and 2008, only to pick it back up thereafter.  Stay classy.

PeterLemonJello's picture

You're a f'ing moron. Ron Paul never shut up about it. The rest of those idiots....well.....

Prisoners_dilemna's picture

You troll.

Conservatives have more in common with democrats and the other false dichotomy parties.

Ron Paul is a libertarian Statesman.

chemystical's picture

Troll = member for 18 wks 6 days.  A few posts up the page we see poster 4 Freedoms...member for 18 wks 3 days.

Try being a bit less obvious next time.  Who pays you assholes to post this bullshit, and don't you feel the least bit like a slimy Quisling?  I'd say "God help you when the time comes" but I wouldn't mean it.

NoWayJose's picture

It's not only guns in the hands of the government, but they have their own twisted versions of the 'law' that they can pull out when needed.

Two big cases in the news - one is the Supreme Court possibly letting police have access to anything on your cell phone if they arrest or even just stop you. Moral - stash your cell phones when you are stopped, or find a way to hide or delete your data.

Two is the Byron Smith trial in Minnesota. A 65 year old guy whose house had been buglarized before retreated to his basement with his gun when two teens break into his house. They come down to the basement and he shoots them. Pretty clear case of defending his home and his life. Only problem is that he had an audio recorder running where he commented on the shootings - and not too kindly about the teens. Jury nailed him for the audio recording more than the shooting, even calling it pre-meditated murder. He was a fool to record it and let the police have it - otherwise how can it be pre-meditated if the teens had to do the breaking in?

Watch your electronic data!

American Dreams's picture

Great note Jose!  I challenge everyone here to go a simple 5 days without your mobile data center.  I would wager 50% of you can not!  It is a challenge I admit, especially if you have a family. They always want to know where you are,what you are doing, only to be comfortable if nothing else.  Programming runs deep.  It made my better half CRAZY.  5 days produced crazy, I was personally amazed.

Kown your enemy


kchrisc's picture

Don’t call the police! Research it.

And above all, DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE!!!

They "serve and protect" the elites and banksters and are only looking to make a felony arrest and/or theft of your property, "seizure."


He should have gone and bought some lime, tarps and a shovel, paying with cash of course, and "planted" the weeds.

Oliver Klozoff's picture

Are you outta yer fuckin' minds?

Those were kids he killed.


Ace Ventura's picture

Are YOU outta your fuckin' mind? Those were BURGLARS he initially retreated from (under NO obligation to do so in HIS home), only using lethal force when they further violated his home by going into the basement. I don't give a shit if they were 16 year old wannabe thugsters. For cryin' out loud....when did we start coddling thieves, and demonizing regular folks simply defending themselves?!