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Presenting Russian East Ukraine: These Are The Cities Controlled By "Separatists"

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Vladimir Putin 'confirmed' yesterday that there were no Russian forces 'boots on the ground' in Ukraine and so it seems the daily growing list of cities that are falling to pro-Russian separatist forces throughout Eastern Ukraine - as the following chart shows - suggests an ever more divided nation is verging on civil war, despite the best efforts of the West to sanction their way to a fix. As Turchinov warned this morning, there is "real danger of the Russian Federation beginning a land war against Ukraine... our armed forces are on full military readiness."

 

 

Source: AFP

As Reuters reports,

Ukraine's armed forces are on full military alert in case of a Russian invasion, the country's acting president said on Wednesday, reiterating concern over Russian troops massed on the border.

 

"I once again return to the real danger of the Russian Federation beginning a land war against Ukraine," Oleksander Turchinov told a meeting of regional governors in Kiev, Interfax-Ukraine reported.

 

"Our armed forces have been put on full military readiness," he said.

 

Russia says it has no plan to invade eastern Ukraine following its annexation of the Crimean peninsula in March, but Turchinov's remark made clear the pro-Western government in Kiev saw no reason to reduce the readiness of its armed forces.

 

Kiev, however, accuses Moscow of orchestrating an armed uprising in the industrial east by Russian-speaking separatists who have seized government buildings in a strong of towns and cities, largely unopposed by police.

Given NATO's moves we charted here, and the map above, we could not help but find the following statement somewhat ironic...

  • RUSSIA'S PUTIN, ITALY'S PM DISCUSS UKRAINE ON THE PHONE, URGE ALL SIDES TO STICK TO GENEVA DEAL ON DE-ESCALATING CRISIS - INTERFAX CITES KREMLIN

Nothing to see here.

And in the latest news... another city just fell...

 

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Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:15 | 4712439 IridiumRebel
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Split it down the Dneiper. Everybody go home and lets not go nuclear, please....I got kids. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:22 | 4712469 tarsubil
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Russia expands and NATO gains territory. Meh, they could have negotiated this without the theatrics and risk.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:44 | 4712513 McMolotov
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For the West, theatrics and risk have been the whole point all along. Someone really wants war.

edit: I must have offended Ms. Nuland.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:54 | 4712609 svayambhu108
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ZeroHedge reminds me of LATOC. The end is near ... See this news! Whatch this graph! Hope Tyler doesn't go into astrology.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:09 | 4712695 CrashisOptimistic
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There have been a lot of your sort lately.  And the jewish conspiracy folks.

I guess your budget wasn't sequestered.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:16 | 4712999 svayambhu108
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You should remain optimistic, is not that black and white and now and then each one visits the troll side. 
My sort ? I don't hang out with my sort.

BTW random bit from LATOC"
https://web.archive.org/web/20080222184626/http://www.lifeaftertheoilcra...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:28 | 4713064 Flakmeister
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LATOC was over the top even before we realized that it was not going to be a fast crash....

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 17:50 | 4713906 kurt
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Beware, Here at the end of the string lurks the

"Tits and Ass, man" man.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:30 | 4713087 Joe A
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He's been a member for 13 weeks and 1 day

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:44 | 4713186 Seer
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Careful, we've been instructed by "element" that pointing out such things makes the "accuser" a "moron."

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out because I think it is quite relevant.  Lots of folks popping in here all of a sudden to toss nothing but shit.  If they aren't presenting a viable argument then they should be ignored/seen as trolls...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:30 | 4713621 svayambhu108
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13 ominous weeks and one day of reckoning.

Comm'on people,  it was a critique of narrative, what if the Dow plunges to 3000, the gold is 10.000 bucks, and fill in the gaps for the rest. 
What then?

I troll lightly and sparingly and when I do I do it  I do it for the trickster element...

And by the way I red ZH from the day one... and I've seen here samples of trolling...

 

I think things with Internet have refined into what I might call an indignant troll (a troll that trolls through over-exaggerated indignation on messages that seem to transgress the most common shared dogma of a virtual community)

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:41 | 4713162 Seer
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Thank you for stepping forward to confess your ignorance.  That's the first sign of recovery...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:35 | 4712528 CrashisOptimistic
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You missed some recent threads.

The primo farmland is in the east.

The west is parasites.  That's why they want to be in the EU.  To get benefits checks.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:49 | 4712594 Volkodav
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The west are more poles the further you go..Lvov and area is source of much of the radicals.

They are less logic and reason. More emotional. Not as careful...As go further east more stable.... Siberians are good people.

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:15 | 4712725 smlbizman
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you mean..like woman...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:46 | 4713194 Totentänzerlied
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Benefits checks (and Brussels taxation, and IMF onerous debt, and US interests buying everything up at firesale prices, bullshit faux "austerity", bail-ins, bail-outs, technocratic EU-ECB domination, and a couple of token NATO warplanes)... how's that working out for Greece?

People never learn.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:34 | 4712787 813kml
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Russia won't be letting NATO move any closer, Ukraine is their line in the sand.  Putin knows that he has the dollar and EU by the short curlies, time is running out for the West to negotiate like adults.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:31 | 4712788 813kml
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Oops, double post.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:23 | 4712474 BabylonDeer
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thats the logical solution, won´t work.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:36 | 4712535 Dr. Engali
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The logical situation would have been for the CIA not to have stirred up this mess in the first place.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:40 | 4712551 IridiumRebel
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...and then there is that.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:46 | 4712580 TungstenBars
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Lunatics gotta loon

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:07 | 4712937 Seer
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Yeah, but then we'd be stuck with the only "viewing channel," the continuing financial meltdown (trail to the bankers more obvious).

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:13 | 4712980 BorisTheBlade
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CIA in its current shape and form perhaps is not more than just a bunch of goons for former corporate raiders who are now down to business of raiding entire countries. The business plan is simple: hostile takeover, covered by aggressive short-term information campaign and cheap bullying, stripping it off assets and selling out on the cheap while blood flows on the streets. Stirring up hornets nets on the backyard of Russia for this bunch is business as usual, except Putin possesses skillset to deal with bandits only on a bigger scale this time, having obtained it back in 90s throwing Khodorkovsky's and Berezovsky's out of Russia. Democracy and human rights are tossed aside when ROI for entire operation is in excess of 100% and CIA is no more intelligent at this point than your average criminal.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4712507 Old Man River
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I'm thinking these Russian-seperatists can just keep on doing what there doing and then hold one of them referendums to join Russia. Theys not killing anyone are they? Can they just do it like they did there in Crimea? No NATO, no nukes and very little violence. What yall thinking?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:40 | 4712549 IridiumRebel
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we cool

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:46 | 4712575 phat ho
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Crimea rolled out perfectly with nary a shot fired. What a perfect example for regional parchment of land to take place in. They have all the time in the world for them to turn-in with the unmarked russian troops, at least in eastern ukraine. Though it seems the dynamics of each town is a little different from another.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:37 | 4712538 TungstenBars
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The USSA would never let Russia gain anything. The rabid Russophobia in those psychopaths is astonishing. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:48 | 4712587 Beard of Zeus
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They're pissed because Putin threw their co-ethnics out.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:50 | 4712847 Stuck on Zero
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Who get Chernobyl?

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:08 | 4713303 Martin W
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Chernobyl is approx 50 miles north of Kiev.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:16 | 4712445 jal
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When will they start to open refugy camps?

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:17 | 4712450 CrashisOptimistic
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Occupying buildings has to be followed by referendum.

That will get the ball rolling.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:19 | 4712456 phat ho
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oh no; not Lugansk

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:19 | 4712457 Let them eat iPads
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I don't always use hired goons, but when I do I prefer Russians.

Stay bloodthirsty, my friends.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:27 | 4712494 RafterManFMJ
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More greens had you replaced Russians with Blackwater or Xe or Satan's Catspaw or what the fuck ever they are calling themselves today.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:42 | 4712560 IridiumRebel
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It's all ACADEMIc.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:54 | 4712625 Bastiat
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I liked the old name, Blackwater.

 

blackwater

1. any of several diseases charcterized by the production of dark urine as a result of the rapid breakdown of red blood cells.

also

blackwater:

Wastwater containing bodily or other biological wastes, as from toilets, dishwashers or kitchen drains.

 

It was perfect really, I don't know why they changed the name.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:09 | 4712947 Seer
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"Satan's Catspaw"

LoL.  Thanks for that one!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:08 | 4712688 Volkodav
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Russians are not goons

They are just stronger

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:29 | 4713083 Flakmeister
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Do you write for RT News as your day job?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:48 | 4713209 Seer
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Flak, you're becoming the Rodney Dangerfield of ZH! (no matter how valid your comment you still get no respect!)

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:20 | 4712462 BabylonDeer
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What a shitty map. Kharkiv is much more than 25% of russian speakers, try to find a newspaper in ukranian there. Actually, it's pretty rare to met someone speaking ukranian there.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:41 | 4712556 Volkodav
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Exactly true..

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:23 | 4712472 phat ho
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armageddon bitchez

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:23 | 4712475 Dr. Engali
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Start waving those flags boys and girls, we are gearing up for war. Sacrifice your sons and daughters for the common good while the bankers and the elites place bets on both sides.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:14 | 4712718 Chump
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They can come and try to get my son I guess, although I don't see how trading several young men for one is a winning strategy.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:29 | 4712751 angel_of_joy
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There will be very little appetite within the rank & file of "boots on the ground" for picking a fight with Russians. It's easy to look tough from Wa DC. Just wait for the first planes to go down in flames, and for the first body bags to arrive home. You'll know when the shit has really hit the fan by the loss of your GPS signal. Russia ain't no Lybia or Irak. You start a fight there, you get killed. Ask the French. And the Germans. And the Japanese...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 20:49 | 4714424 StychoKiller
Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4712476 socalbeach
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Just posted several hours ago, chock full of info about the Ukraine situation. Even if you don't agree with everything the professor (Andrei Fursov) says, it's worth reading.  Transcript comes from a YouTube video with English subtitles posted 04-26-2014, which was a lecture given to Russian students presumably.

Document:Battleground Ukraine

" ... Well, we shouldn't be ashamed to learn from the West how to operate in the informational domain. Their policies are of an offensive nature. If you are reacting, then you're one step behind and you're going to lose. In the Crimean Victory we won because our leadership, above all the president, he was always a step ahead of the opponent. He took a step. They reacted. He set the agenda. "

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:56 | 4712635 Anusocracy
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Basically that's what one of Bush's turds said.

That they will create a new reality and you will respond while they are creating another new reality.

Looks like they met their match with the chess-minded Russians.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:52 | 4712856 Karl von Bahnhof
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It was not dubyas turd. It was his brain.

Naaah, nevermind.... They are the same.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:14 | 4712988 Seer
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"He set the agenda. "

When you have the "hand" it's a lot easier to control the game.  It's much easier to look like a genius (whether one or not).

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:35 | 4713119 Joe A
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Putin is playing on home ground, that makes all the difference.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:24 | 4712480 Alberich
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The Kiev junta hopes that by provoking a Russian military response, they will obtain enough EU and US support to stave off their inevitable collapse. Of course that won't work, but they're almost out of borrowed time and have no other options.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:52 | 4713233 Seer
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Dr. Paul Craig Roberts suggests that the US/West is looking to suck Russia into something that'll distract them from Syria and Iran.  Not sure if it's the "plan" or not, but it does open up the possibility (never underestimate the current reigning champs).

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:41 | 4713662 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hmmmm, not sure if you made a typo or not. Given the current level of screeching and feces throwing which is emanating from Vichy DC, I read it as "never underestimate the current reigning chimps".

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:58 | 4713716 Chump
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Oh oh oh!  I see racism!  I see some racism you guys!  You guys, there's racism here!  I see it!

:P

http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA4LzEyL2Q2L3RoYXRzcmFjaXN0LjM3O...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 17:55 | 4713921 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is indeed the song sung by Vichy DC Nuland Kaganism citizens.

Hollow phrasing that can cover every and any thing.

Declaration of purpose have to be taken for what they are worth when they come from Vichy DC Nuland Kaganism citizens' mouth. You read it, you take a 180 turn and you are close to where Vichy DC Nuland Kaganism citizens aim at.

As a result, they do respond favourably to stereotyping.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 20:50 | 4714429 StychoKiller
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Next Wednesday (May 7th - gaz bill is due) is gonna be interesting...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:25 | 4712484 wmbz
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Looks like it's all going according to plan. Russia ends up taking over without "invading"!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:25 | 4712488 intric8
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day by day more ukrainian dudes wise up, realize their lot is with russia, put on masks and occupy towns. That aint putins fault.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4712505 kridkrid
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If they were truly wise, they would rise up and oppose both the EU/US and Russia. Alas, we are well conditioned to believe there are always exactly two choices.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:50 | 4712599 Toolshed
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I am sure they would welcome your advice on exactly how to organize and FUND themselves so as to make your proposed third choice a possibility. I mean, they are only behind a few billion on their gas bill. So.....let's hear your solution to that rather perplexing problem.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 17:44 | 4713881 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Well, yeah, that's pretty much it.

The people in Donetsk, Lugansk, and Kharkiv aren't faced with an ideal hypothetical situation. Their decisions must be made in the context of the current Westphalian nation-state system which, while in decline, isn't going to vanish overnight.

Their choice boils down to siding with Russia or siding with anti-Russia. If they try to side with neither, the Kaganate of Nuland will continue tossing cookies and stirring up trouble.

A prosperous Ukraine has always been in Russia's best interest. If the eastern Ukrainian regions choose to separate from the Kievan junta and side with Russia, they will face some tough economic times, but with a realistic possibility to improve their situation. They will also have a more dependable defensive arrangement.

On the other hand, it appears that the anti-Russia sees the Ukraine as just another resource to exploit. Siding with the Kievan pretenders will also leave the eastern Ukrainian regions facing tough economic times. However, the yoke of IMF debt will weigh heavily upon them, their children, and their grandchildren for a very long time. Additionally, as the less important members will learn, when it comes to trustworthiness, NATO defense obligations are lacking.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:56 | 4712640 Bastiat
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If they were truly wise they would not have beggared the country through excessive debt without the offsetting investment in production. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:16 | 4713002 Seer
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If you have no energy then you're only going to go in one direction...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:29 | 4713078 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yep like any good self defense class if the instructor really is teaching self defense first offensive combat second. They will ask you a simple question like how do you avoid getting robbed in a dark alleyway at 3 in the morning and the answer will be something like don't be in a dark alleyway at 3 am in the first place. Then will hammer that point home every single class from there on in before teaching fighting, defensive and offensive techniques.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:54 | 4713249 Seer
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Don't put yourself in the situation of losing...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:39 | 4712546 NotApplicable
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Classic "lesser of two evils." At least they have an understanding of how society operates under the thumb of Mother Russia. As for life as a NATO/IMF protectorate, what's to know other than pain will be inflicted as your wealth is stolen by the bankster class.

I can't imagine this decision is very difficult to make.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:05 | 4712645 tony wilson
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if hitler was the old putin

who will protect the poor jewish souls of new ukrainia

 

even if we have to go nuclear it will be worth it to save the innocent new anne franks from ivan

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:33 | 4712496 Ribeye
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we should all just sucede from all of these flippin corrupt bloated states, 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:12 | 4713322 Seer
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That would be ALL states...  Best to just think in terns of no longer requiring them.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:31 | 4712504 pupton
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Here's yet another reason to make English the official language of the USA, and require it be spoken in all US schools and government documents and facilities.  There is a growing Spanish speaking population in this country that has no loyalty to our country or our values, and wants to conquer the entire western US in the name of Mexico.  We are staring this (Ukraine) shit in the face in a generation or two.  Language is what unites people.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:35 | 4712530 NotApplicable
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Well, given most of the western US was Mexico, you might say they are exercising their right to referendum.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:38 | 4713147 sushi
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¿Qué coño está diciendo??

 

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:36 | 4712534 kridkrid
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Yes... let's make laws to make us even more tribal. In fact, while we are at it, let's make sure that the kids wear uniforms to school and recite a bunch of patriotic gibberish. When the shit hits the fan (too late) we will really be ready to wave some flags, thump our bibles, and unite around some common enemies.

I have no doubt that what you say will begin to be echoed. We'll eventually vote for the mouth breather and that's when shit is going to get interesting (in a real shitty way).

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:50 | 4712597 zapdude
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There is no place for your intolerance and bigotry, especially in your post-caucasian, anti-liberty, pro-statist shadow of your former glory country!  How dare you expose the inevitable disaster of cultural erosion by unmitigated illegal immigration and corrupt self-serving politicians and bureaucrats who push this agenda!  By the time your fellow countrymen realize what's happened as your nation becomes a cesspool of the invading hordes, it will be too late.  In fact, it already is!

Sincerely & adios,

La Raza

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:57 | 4712644 mamba-mamba
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Idiotic. I live in the west part of USA. First of all, maybe half of the spanish speakers are Mexican, the rest from other spansish speaking areas. Second, they came here because Mexico and most of central and south America is so screwed up. As messed up as the US is, it is better than the other nearby countries to the south. The LAST thing these guys want is to live under Mexican rule. I did not junk you.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:41 | 4713169 Overfed
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They get lots more free shit here than they did south of the border. Eliminate the entitlements and see how many of them go home.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:55 | 4713487 downwiththebanks
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They left Mexico when NAFTA allowed agribusiness to steal their land.  That's how capitalism has worked for about 5 centuries.  Especially in Mexico!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:17 | 4713338 Seer
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"There is a growing Spanish speaking population in this country that has no loyalty to our country or our values"

What fucking "country?"  What fucking "values?"

The US (as were most inperailist conquests) was based on rape an pillage.  It never changes, only gets a bit of lipstick to make people think it's not a pig...

Thanks for letting us know you're xenophobic!

BTW - Here's how it all goes down with empirical cycles: http://www.rexresearch.com/glubb/glubb-empire.pdf (understand there's a difference between symptom and cause [I'll claim that the "cause" is perpetual growth, but that's just my take on things...].

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:35 | 4712532 Seasmoke
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That's a lot of red lines crossed. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:52 | 4712606 Tjeff1
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Those red lines have all turned pink

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:37 | 4712536 moneybots
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"Vladimir Putin 'confirmed' yesterday that there were no Russian forces 'boots on the ground' in Ukraine"

 

Just Russian soldiers in unmarked uniforms.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:48 | 4712590 Lin S
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Which, of course, is an outrage because the U.S. has never, ever done those deplorable things, and would never...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:53 | 4712610 Tjeff1
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Maybe he meant the boots are made in China

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:55 | 4712631 TungstenBars
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Of course ethnic Russians living in Ukraine would never want to separate from the Kiev puppets. Those have to be Russian soldiers. 

/sarc

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:03 | 4712665 Volkodav
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Nyet..former military and such...locals...there are enough live there..Afgantsy and other vets.

there very many that quit the Ukraine forces and now defend hometowns

 

 

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:39 | 4713152 Joe A
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No no, they all wear sneakers

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:56 | 4713489 downwiththebanks
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I wonder if Uncle Sam has any soldiers in unmarked uniforms active in Ukraine...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:41 | 4712554 Infinite QE
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All the Ukraine, except for the New Bolshevik interlopers, know the gig. They know that they are fecked with the Bolshevik/NATO/EU rape-machine that has been planted in Kiev. Many may not trust the Russians due to the original Bolshevik Russian history, but in the end, they know that they are more Russian than Bolshevik and will do the right thing. Call for a world court investigation, try and hang the interlopers on the ground and call for the extradition of the American/Israeli New Bolshevik designers.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:46 | 4712576 Lin S
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Goodbye, Donbas.  It's a done deal.

If I was Ukraine I'd pull my loyal military and police forces - along with all of their hardware and ammo - well to the west, to save them and shore up my increasingly unstable domestic situation. 

Throwing down against Russia is a losing ballgame. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:46 | 4712578 Beard of Zeus
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Hey, is the Russian military hiring?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:51 | 4712602 phat ho
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can you drink vodka??

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:32 | 4713409 kurt
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I was shown an 8 oz glass of room temperature vodka and instructed to drink it because I was told it would stimulate my digestion. Guess what. It works. She was a Lithuanian of Russian descent.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:19 | 4712740 Volkodav
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Da...Question is, can you take this kind of training?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuzb3WMntc

 

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:42 | 4713173 Joe A
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How about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgh0PpmJsWY

Take me prisoner!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 12:56 | 4712638 CHX
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Meet the extension of the Russian lands...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:58 | 4713495 downwiththebanks
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Or look at an historical map...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:07 | 4712682 q99x2
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FU Goldman Sachs. Suck on it. Those pipes are Putins.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:07 | 4712686 Jugdish787
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The horse he sweats with fear we break to run
The mighty roar of the Russian guns
And as we race towards the human wall
The screams of pain as my comrades fall

We hurdle bodies that lay on the ground
And the Russians fire another round
We get so near yet so far away
We won't live to fight another day

We get so close near enough to fight
When a Russian gets me in his sights
He pulls the trigger and I feel the blow
A burst of rounds takes my horse below

And as I lay there gazing at the sky
My body's numb and my throat is dry
And as I lay forgotten and alone
Without a tear I draw my parting groan

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:09 | 4712691 ThisIsBob
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So tell me again why its OK for the USA to support rabid brigades of sand niggers in Syria, but its not OK for Russians to come to the aid of their own in an adjoining country.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 18:10 | 4713957 Bazza McKenzie
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That would be because Obama is "the one" and he has a "Nobel Peace Prize" and anyone who opposes of disses him must be rayciss.

And he's got all these 2 passport people (2 passports! they must be a superior class of people) pulling the strings for him, or is that pulling his strings.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:10 | 4712703 lasvegaspersona
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The news always seems to omit the fact that as evil as Puty may be....he did not start this.

If he is the mastermind behind the whole series of events he truly is an evil genius. He tricked the whole Western Ukraine into uprising (and maybe fooled theCIA into getting involved) only so he could have his way with Ukraine....even though he already had what he wanted to begin with.....chenius, chenius chenius ( h/t Mr Panos)

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:31 | 4712789 Jack4952
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IF Putin did plan this whole thing, just HOW did he get the U.S. government to spend $5 Billion aiding the pro-coup fascists????

FACTS (from an American who lives in Ukraine):

1.) My wife's friend lives near Kharkov and said that Ukrainian soldiers (who have no money and very poor food) walked throughout the town asking for food. Most people gave them some, as that is a Russian custom: you always offer food to a visitor. Some people, though strongly pro-Russian, even invited soldiers into their homes for meals. WOW !!!

2.) The post-coup Kiev government requested VOLUNTEERS for military service and publicly stated that it expected between 5,000-9,000 from ODESSA (on the Black Sea) in the first month. It was reported several days ago that the total number of volunteers from Odessa is 9.

Yes, you read that correctly. NINE !!!

It  appears to me that the VAST MAJORITY of the Ukrainian people, including the pro-Kiev soldiers, do NOT want any armed conflict.

Instead, they still view each others as fellow country-men and brothers -- that is the Russian way. It is the VERY FEW who seem to be pushing them into war.

I say, break out the VODKA and let's party !!!!

--- Jack

 

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:35 | 4712799 Infinite QE
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Jack, we need to get you on CNN to get the truth out. Wake up the slumbering GMO-intoxicated American masses.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:33 | 4713412 Seer
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There's already a completed book/story, it was the Georgian episode.  Even though the US/West was clearly caught with their pants down people still WANT TO believe that it was Russia who invaded.

Nationalism SUCKS.  Anyone promoting it ought to be nipped in the bud.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:28 | 4713389 kurt
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The nine from Odessa explains why all the neo-con financed mercenaries have face coverings in practically every picture the makes it into the agiprop. It's because they are not Ukrainians and they're not locals.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:12 | 4712706 Jack4952
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Ukraine is 99.999 % BILINGUAL

As an American who actually LIVES in UKraine, I can state that EVERY Ukrainian citizen I have EVER met speaks and understands RUSSIAN. And the vast majority can speak and understand UKRAINIAN.  The graph in this article probably refers to "primary language used" or "preferred language" or some other similar metric.

For example, in the capital city KIEV (which if off the map to the north-east) - which on the graph would show "0-25%" as speaking Russian, I NEVER encountered anyone who was NOT speaking Russian !!!! NOT ONCE in over 20 years of visiting Kiev !!!! The same for Lvov in the western region.

The idea that the people in some regions of Ukraine speak ONLY Ukrainian and people in other ragions speak ONLY Russian is totally FALSE.

Ukraine could be described most accurately as be 99.999 % BILINGUAL, which people in different regions having different PREFERENCES based on ethnicity.

-- Jack

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:37 | 4713140 TPTB_r_TBTF
Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:52 | 4713231 IronForge
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Jack, 

I recommend that you contact RT or one of its shows - Crosstalk with Peter Lavelle or The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann.  They might get you on as a Interviewee, Contributor, etc. - to give the Viewing Public a chance to see/hear beyond the MSM Propaganda.

BTW, if most UKR Residents are Bilingual, then we can see beyond the Fiscal/Financial reasons WHY the East and the South wish to Leave. 

Thank you, 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:24 | 4712756 Lin S
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When I saw Jugoslavija being broken up I knew AmeriKa was (is) screwed.  I told my collegues but no one took me seriously.  They still don't want to face it.

What was done to the USSR and Jugoslavija is now being done to Ukraine.

The same will eventually be done to the US.  It will be broken up into pieces/parts.

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:08 | 4712944 mandea
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buddy, you have no ideea what USSR did to the whole eastern and central-european countries.  Your ignorance does not excuse you but you should know that Jugoslavya was not an USSR invention and was not their buddy.

Anyways, what is going on now in Ucraine is a horrible way of doing things by putin and KGB. That is a classy KGB operation. Make sure it does not happen in your country, as well. Apparently you are in so much love with putin, why is that? what is he offering, not to you, but to the future of your kids? How people live in Russia? Why over 4 milions left putin's russia to work in Western countries? Uh?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:26 | 4713046 TPTB_r_TBTF
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.

you are in so much love with putin, why is that?

Putin is a Chuck Norris type!

 

we worship those Chuck Norris types.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:28 | 4713057 Lin S
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Keep swallowing your Faux Newz agitprop, and waving your 'Made in China' US flag, 60-IQ imbecile.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:23 | 4713366 kurt
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Agitprop!

I like it. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:32 | 4713628 smacker
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One reason why people leave Russia to live in the West is for exactly the same reason millions of other people leave their home countries to live in the West: because they want to live in a ready-made country where they don't have to roll up their sleeves and build it themselves. They're looking for an easier life living on the back of Westerners.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 13:24 | 4712757 Last of the Mid...
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Looks like they're choosing russia instead of the eu's highly over leveraged banker run debt slavery.... . . intresting

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 14:17 | 4713001 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Yes, the National Debt of Russia just seems so much more attractive!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:24 | 4713368 Peacen1k
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nt

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:38 | 4713435 Seer
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Well... when the music stops all the paper debt will go "poof."  What is there then?  Um... energy?  The West bloc will experience what the East bloc did when it was subject to the USSR.  Funny how tides turn...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 15:41 | 4713440 teslaberry
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the prize city is dnipropetrovsk, just south east on the dnieper river of kremenchuk and then kiev.

once, dnipropetrovsk falls, game over, kiev cannot get to odessa by water, and ukraine falls back to russia.

by the way dnipropetrovsk has been around for a while, and 200 years ago was built up with lots of infusion from catherine the great of russia. it was called yekaterinoslav back then.

it was renamed in 1926 after soviet ukranian communist grigory petrovsky , probably as part of soviet 'cleaning' of the old czarist culture.

so yea, a major city of ukraine has been russia for over 200 years. notably, the soviet union starved over 7 million ukrainans to death in the holodomor starvation , mostly a result of a collectivization policies by stalin that deliberately starved the people of dnipropetrovsk in particular. grigory, ironically has been implicated in the policy that killed many of the people in the city named after him.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:01 | 4713499 Seer
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Regarding Holodomor, not to defend anything (other than logic, and never any government), but w/o there having been an actual trial to ferret out the requisite documentation/proof it's just an assertion.  Yes, an assertion can be valid, but again, one would think that something along this scale would have had left some trace of "official" documentation that would irrefutably support the assertion.  The anit-commie fanatics (same camp as the neo-cons) have been proven to take a lot of liberties with stories used to support their actions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:04 | 4713508 esum
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obmbler thought greystone could deliver a coup and putin would not respond.... shitty intel.... so putin will take what parts of ukraine he wants for overland access to crimea (sevestapol) and then we will have a standoff... no action by either side... lots of hot air and planes and ships going in circles.... but essentially obumbler will hang the ukraine out to dry.... trusting obumbler is a death wish....

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:29 | 4713616 goldhedge
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Who is the Italian PM today?

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 16:30 | 4713619 novictim
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Clearly, the separatists are Traitors.  

I have no sympathy for their treatment once Ukraine reestablishes UKRAINIAN rule.  

The noose is tightening around their necks.  The best these scum will be able to hope for is an escort to the Russian border.  The worst they can expect is a trial and execution.  

Meanwhile, Zero Hedge and other Russian propaganda sites will share the moral responsibility for egging on this insurrection. 

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