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Ukraine Denies Funneling Arms To Jihadis In Syria

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Over the weekend, Germany's Der Spiegel magazine published a report on the funneling of Ukrainian arms to jihadists in Syria via Germany. According to information obtained by Der Spiegel, a Ukrainian state enterprise is delivering rifles to Germany, but the German federal government allegedly doesn’t know what is happening with the weapons. In fact, as Spiegel notes, Berlin “can not dispel the suspicion that these weapons have been passed on to Islamist holy warriors to cause a regime change in Syria." It seems the "news" has spurred reaction from the peace-loving Ukrainian government who, as Interfax reports, staunchly denied any possibility of Germany's re-exporting firearms to Syria this morning.

 

As Syria 360 reports, Der Spiegel has just published a report on the funneling of Ukranian arms to jihadists in Syria via Germany. The following is a translation of the German text by Emily-Dische Becker:

“According to information obtained by Der Spiegel, a Ukrainian state enterprise is delivering rifles to Germany. The German federal government allegedly doesn’t know what is happening with the weapons. Are they being used in the war in Syria?

 

According to information obtained by SPIEGEL, the Ukraine is apparently doing arms deals through Germany. As the German Foreign Office acknowledged in response to a request by Die Linke (the Left party), the Ukrainian state company Ukroboronprom has been exporting semi-automatic rifles of the SKS Simonov variety to Germany. These imports were approved by the responsible government agencies.

 

The Foreign Office however is concealing where the weapons are ending up in Germany: The delivery terms of the German contract partner are “a business and a trade secret.” The rifles, it says evasively, are being delivered to Germany “for the purpose of modification.” The American Jamestown Foundation think-tank, which is said to enjoy strong historical ties to U.S. intelligence agencies, believes that the weapons are being delivered from Germany to Syrian rebels. Jamestown estimates the delivery of 54,000 small arms in the years 2011 and 2012. These could have been used for ” covert operations ” in Syria.

 

The federal government is aware of the suspicions of the Americans, but does not want to investigate them. As stated in their response to the Left party’s inquiry, they have “no findings of [their] own on this matter.” Neither the German army, nor the military counterintelligence agency, nor the federal intelligence service (BND) are involved in the purchase of weapons [the federal government claims].

 

The Left party’s expert for foreign affairs, Sevim Dagdelen, is alarmed by the government’s ignorance: “It is scandalous that the federal government can not convey anything about the whereabouts of these weapons. ” To make matter worse, Berlin “can not dispel the suspicion that these weapons have been passed on to Islamist holy warriors to cause a regime change in Syria. “

And now this morning, Interfax reports the denial...

  • Ukrainian agency denies possibility of Germany's re-exporting firearms to Syria

Now who do you believe?

 

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Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:40 | 4714554 ndotken
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The delivery terms of the German contract partner are “a business and a trade secret.”   "Trade secrets" ... hmmm, where might they have gotten that term?  ... it looks like the US Government has trained them well

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:52 | 4714589 knukles
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Ah hah! 
So now we come full circle.
Where was the Gulf Gas Pipeline supposed to run through?
Syria.
Who else was involved because their country is the competition's (Russia's) transit point for gas?
Ukraine, between Russia and Europe.

And wherefore art them arms and ammo originate, is the 64K question.
As in flew in from to, as in manufactured, as in stored, as in whose inventories?

Betcha they aren't from Ukraine's inventory

No shit, Sherlock
Ever wonder why shit like this happens?

Hah!

Like current Ukraine gov't is US puppet, is supporter of Syrian rebels fighting against guy in charge of Syria who said no to pipeline who is Russia's puppet.

Another fucking coincidence

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:35 | 4714720 Infinite QE
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This is the reason they need Common Core education so that people cannot become wise and astute such as yourself and be able to connect the dots and have a memory retention longer than 15 seconds.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:40 | 4714563 IridiumRebel
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it's a small world after all......

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 02:05 | 4715066 cynicalskeptic
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C'mon..... same old business, new decade.  Maybe it's just an entrepreneurial type at work trying to make a fortune the old fashioned way - meeting a need.

Similarities to 'Lord of War' and Viktor Bout are not a coincidence.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_War

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:40 | 4714565 Chupacabra-322
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The plot thickens.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:03 | 4714789 IridiumRebel
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The plot sickens.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:44 | 4714579 Dr. Engali
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All parties involved have been so duplicitous in this whole affair that I don't believe anybody, especially anybody who has ties to the U.S. Intelligence (is that an oxymoron?) agencies.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:27 | 4714703 BlindMonkey
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No. The are smart. I am sure that they think, and possibly are, the smartest kids in any room. That doesn't mean they are wise. At all. They are cut from the same cloth as the cocksucking parasites that leave college to go to the vampire squid. They are just the poor ones that don't have family connections to get them into manhattan.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:44 | 4714581 Tortfeasor
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Ukraine denies beating its wife. Story at 11.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:50 | 4714592 knukles
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Westen powers deny beating their puds.  More at 11:05

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:50 | 4714593 NoDebt
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Really?  When did they stop beating their wife?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:45 | 4714583 nmewn
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Stupid question.

Who's supplying the ammunition? I know, I know, details details...

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:54 | 4714606 knukles
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DHS

maniacal laughter

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:59 | 4714624 nmewn
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ROTFL!!!...well, (only half smirking) they have the budget for it.

I'm still trying to figure out the "modify" part of this, modify what? Put a sling on it?

This whole Ukrainian thing has more moves than a monkey in a forty acre grapevine...lol.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:57 | 4714616 Xibalba
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Pentagon set to destroy a billion dollars worth by shipping it to them. 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:04 | 4714643 Colonel Klink
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Saw that article huh?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:35 | 4714724 BlindMonkey
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Hopefully it won't be any "Project Eldest Son" surplus. That shit was bad.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:45 | 4714585 fonzannoon
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Alan's Snack Bar!!!!!!!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:46 | 4714586 Jack Burton
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It sure seems Al-Qaeda has a whole lot of support from the Western Block, not the least of which is the US CIA, who are known to be not only active but very influential in Ukraine, Mossad even more so. Strange times, our governments are some of the biggest liars on earth. War on terror, from an exporter of terror? And Kiev coup members call Russian Ukrainians terrorists? You must be fuckn' joking!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:18 | 4714685 john39
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We put the 'cia' in al-cia-duh after all... how clever is that?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:30 | 4714866 lakecity55
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The origins of AQ go back thru the MB to NAZI Germany; taken over by MI6 after WW2 and handed over to CIA.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:51 | 4714596 g'kar
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"Islamist holy warriors"

 

You have got to be fuckin' kidding.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:43 | 4714745 ForTheWorld
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I was going to point this out too. The rhetoric has changed from "rebels", "insurgents", "terrorists", "towel heads", "goat fuckers" all the way up to "holy warriors".

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:03 | 4714793 TBT or not TBT
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"Sand People" is how George Lucas translated it for the PG big screen.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:38 | 4714972 g'kar
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Meanwhile the Jawas in the Whitehouse keep trying to sell the American public broken droids.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:53 | 4714598 Yen Cross
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  This shit is so pathetic! These assholes might as well be at fucking daycare with all the other (4) year olds.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:55 | 4714610 knukles
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Might as well be at daycare fucking the 4 y'o's if the Brits are involved

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:29 | 4714863 lakecity55
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"Jim'll Fixit!"

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 21:53 | 4714605 tony wilson
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libya has no gold cia stealing and shipping weapons to syria

ukraine has no gold germany buying weapons for syria

merkel must have a regiment nay a hollocaust of corpses in her closet clearly being blackmailed.

i here the mi6 and cia took a kodak plastic 35mm film cassette container of semen from argentina squirted it into some fat cunt.

it turned out it was merkels mom and the kodak cum was from hair adolf hiltler

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:28 | 4714861 lakecity55
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"Do as we say, Angela, or everyone finds out you're Adolf's secret daughter!"

"And I suppose you haff ze same evidence on Bath House?"

"No. Bath House is proof that Egyptians fuck camels."

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:00 | 4714918 Continue With This
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You are one illiterate fuck.

 

You can't write in proper English.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:49 | 4717618 kurt
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Have you located the OberfuhrerJism ?

   Contact me in our agreed method.

 

Is the cooling vessel intact?

Please bring some American Cigarettes

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:01 | 4714631 BeerMe
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The bullshit governments set up.  Do you want to kill some Russians?  Or some Ukrainians.  Or some Americans?  Maybe some Germans now?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:05 | 4714646 Colonel Klink
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Obama's Ukraine Contra operation.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 02:10 | 4715068 cynicalskeptic
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Who's handling the drugs (and getting future Presidential pardons)?

and here I thought that the Opium from Afghanistan was being processed into heroin in Kosovo for distribution.......  no sense in letting US military transports fly return trips empty (which is why we're leaving TONS of military equipment in Iraq and Afghanistan - I guess it's not worth as much)

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:09 | 4714666 Bobportlandor
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Stupid question.

Who's supplying the ammunition? I know, I know, details details...

 

Answer

What government agency's have billions of Bullets?

 

 

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:32 | 4714712 ThisIsBob
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The Fed.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:48 | 4714755 Wahooo
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Belgium

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:56 | 4714995 g'kar
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Obama stopped importation of Russian guns and ammo a few weeks ago. Puttin' has to sell it to someone.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:31 | 4714709 ThisIsBob
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"Ukranian agency denies possibility of Germany's re-exporting..."

"Believe nothing until it has been officially denied."

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:33 | 4714714 Infinite QE
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Anyone else getting the feeling that this whole zioCON agenda is falling apart at an accelerating clip?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:15 | 4714939 NotApplicable
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This is their agenda.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:35 | 4714725 junction
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Obama seems to have been very busy in 2011, funneling weapons from Berlin and Benghazi to the Syrian jihadists.  The big question is: Who is Obama's organ grinder?

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:39 | 4714731 Dr. Engali
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Reggie Love.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:36 | 4714726 kchrisc
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When everything is a lie, only lies are truth.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:07 | 4714800 TBT or not TBT
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The first casualty of lies is truth.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:41 | 4714978 kchrisc
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Actually, "The first casualty of war is the truth."

One could then use the volume and level of mendacity emanating from the criminals of the DC US, at all levels, as an indicator of the degree of the war they are prosecuting against us, the American people.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 22:58 | 4714768 kurt
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Neighbor Denies Sucking a Goat Dick!

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:32 | 4714869 thamnosma
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As if the German federal government has no idea where those arms are going, what a laugh.

Wed, 04/30/2014 - 23:56 | 4714909 Poor Grogman
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Suddenly it all makes sense.

"Plausible deniability" just got hit by a rocket powered bus

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:48 | 4714986 Sokhmate
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traveling east on the Dubious Credibility Highway

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:27 | 4714959 worbsid
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It is all interesting.  Is anyone here surprised?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 00:41 | 4714977 Sokhmate
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denies possibility because it's a certainty?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 01:02 | 4715001 Joe A
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Germany did this also during the Yugolav wars of the 90s so why would they not do it now? The BND was organised after WWII by a nazi who turned out to be responsible for the death of thousands of people during WWI. From an organisation like that you can expect anything.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 01:15 | 4715017 ElixirMixer
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Blame it on Ukraine

Blame it on the Czars

Whatever you do, don't put the blame on you

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 01:39 | 4715044 StychoKiller
Thu, 05/01/2014 - 02:32 | 4715078 james.connolly
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OBAMA FEMA CAMPS IN UKRAINE

This news just out, and busted by PUTIN, Obama is building secret detention centers where men can be raped and killed who don't support USA/ISRAEL in UKRAINE.

Russia evokes Nazi horrors to bash Ukraine

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2023493517_apxukrainewwiipropag...

>>>

Nuland say's "Detention Center not like Auschwitz, these are actually like Hotels to Hold Russians who have fled to live in Europe", ...

"We're not building any Auschwitz here," said Volodymyr Pashchenko, a Ukrainian official with the Turkish company building the facility. "This is not a prison. This is a center which is to provide normal accommodation to people who have fled to Europe or who have somehow ended up in Ukraine illegally."

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 03:11 | 4715099 james.connolly
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PUTIN: GOOGLE IS CIA

afp Russian President Vladimir Putin has called the internet a ''CIA project'' and has warned Russians against making Google searches.

Well there you have it,... GOOGLE sucks dick and was created by the NSA/CIA who could have guessed?

Looks like PUTIN has taken the gloves OFF.

Google is a 'CIA project' says President Putin - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSX55eG2Gn0

>>>

Let's tie some logic here, GOOGLE is CIA, and Unicorn's collect nickels from the CIA (GOOGLE),... what does that make the fairy's and pixies on ZH?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 08:49 | 4715486 Stanley Kubrick
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CIA is Google?  This is news?

CIA's spending millions to keep their hand in dozens of companies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

Ain't it great being a slave to Fascism?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 03:48 | 4715122 AnAnonymous
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In this 'american' world, oil, guns and drugs are the three big things.

And Ukraine is a big thing in the world gun trading.

In certain places of the world, unrelentless rotation of Ukrainian planes landing full of guns and taking off of something else.

You dont draw 'americans' in with honey. They answer much better to other incentives. Like in Afghanistan or Libya.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 04:23 | 4715141 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Eliminating concurrence since 1776, July, 4th.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 06:27 | 4715213 Poor Grogman
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Free Tibet !

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 05:43 | 4715191 supermaxedout
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 The US installations do form a state within the state of Germany. No German police or whatever has the right to look into the matters of the US here in Germany.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article36886.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/pentagon-new-generation-mili...

 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 07:39 | 4715314 smacker
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Looks like the Merkel government is involved in this gun-running because it too discreetly wants regime change in Syria to get that wretched pipeline built thru Syria to diversify its gas supplies away from Russia. That would explain why it doesn't want to investigate.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 08:22 | 4715389 AvoidingTaxation
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The Left's party expert for foreign affairs, Sevim Dagdelen... Holy Warriors...

A Turk. What a clusterfuck.

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