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IMF Warns Ukraine: Fight For The East Or No Money
IMF approved the $17bn tranched loan to Ukraine last night, Gazprom gets paid; Ukraine gets its cash; and the door's wide open for the US and EU to pour more 'controlling influence' into the divided nation... Except there's one thing:
- IF UKRAINE GOVERNMENT LOSES EFFECTIVE CONTROL OVER EAST OF COUNTRY, $17 BLN IMF BAILOUT WOULD NEED TO BE REDESIGNED
Which, roughly translated, appears to mean go to war with pro-Russian forces (and thus Russia itself if Putin sees his apparent countrymen in trouble) or you don't get your money!
Some other items of note include:
- *IMF URGES UKRAINE TO REACH PRICE ACCORD WITH GAZPROM BY SEPT
- *UKRAINE INFLATION MAY JUMP TO 16.2% THIS YEAR, IMF SAYS
- *RUSSIA'S GAS PRICE INCREASE MAY WEAKEN HRYVNIA: IMF STAFF
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Now we see the true colors come out..
Indeed. This is the "money shot", pun intended, that shows who exactly pulls the strings on all of these conflicts. Where is our "Jesus" to stave off the money changers? We can only save ourselves in the end, no one is coming to save anyone...
And by true colors you mean blue bars on a white background with a 6 pointed star in the middle?
EDIT: I guess the downvoter believes it to be a red shield then? The one instrumental in setting up the above colors? Yeah that's gotta be it.
Come on. Its conincidence. Right?
http://www.touristisrael.com/rothschild-boulevard-tel-aviv/5275/
The IMF wants to get its grubby paws over the resources of the whole Ukraine.
Fucking pigs. Confessions of an Economic Hitman was 100% spot the fuck on.
pods
True, but the timing between debt money offered and outright dictation of a country's acts usually is not so out in the open and so quickly directed after the debt offering. The banksters be getting desperate.
the IMF:
an oligarch created entity that was deceptively created to appear neutral for the purpose of leveraging power against developing nations. Just like the UN.
Exactly.
The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives by Zbigniew Brzezinski
Brezezinski's son is a principle at Booz Allen. Interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Brzezinski
interesting "career"
the astute reader can connect enough dots in his brief wiki to pull in many orbiting stories current now. . .
dark matter.
It appears little happens by chance.
Oh, and his daughter is a talking head on TV.
aye, it would appear the whole family is embedded.
like ticks.
.....sucking the blood out of Nations......
You realize he's Obama's mentor; he picked him up at Columbia and made him the Manchurian Candidate. Brzeainski (sp. god only knows), needs to sleep with the fishes.
God damn dog can figure out how this will end. Got your bankster mercenaries going up against people fighting for the freedom and Russians trying to keep banksters from stealing.
Let's see banksters lose their money and Russia wins. There I explained it to you.
time to pay your master, bitches!
War! Huh! Good God, y'all. What is it good for?
Bankster-gangster profits.
What an evil bunch of men these fuckers are. I don't know how they make it out of a country they hold hostage alive.
I think that is the problem Doc, the IMF is a very nebulus organization. Sure there is the handbag lady, but the blame gets put on the local leader who has to sell off infrastructure at firesale prices to pay back the IMF loans. Until nationalism returns in a big way, this is their playbook. Take an over leveraged country, implode it, loan it conjured up funny money, implode it again, then take possession of real assets with more conjured up funny money and make the people that live their debt serfs on lands they once owned.
pods
That is absolutely the playbook. That is what people need to understand and wake up to before it's too late, and we are running out of time. It's supremely important that people get this message. Now since you are here anyway, let me tell you something ot about the negro....
I just wanted to lock down your typo.
Now who is the evil man?
For shame Doc. :)
LOL - yes,always make sure you mix the critical message with a contoversial or offensive, or flat-out unbelievable rider that pushes you safely into the fringe,
Guilt by association. A negative halo effect. The true idea's associated in the mind with the whacko, racist, disproven, or evil idea.
LOL, thanks fonz. :)
You're right Pods. This shit won't end until every country in the world starts dragging the bankers through the streets. I'm not a violent man, but I see no other solution. The bankers only get away with it because it's happening to the other guy..... that and people love their teevees. Sooner or later people are have to wake up and realize that they are coming for them next.
Good Droctor, they will not wake up until the teevee and internets are taken away. Then, after many die because they are unable to take care of life's simplest tasks (feeding themselves comes to mind) the stronger or more resourceful ones will rise from their slumber and fight. Until then, NOTHING happens. They are happy enough, feed enough, entertained enough, fucked enough, druged enough and have just enough chits to feel comfortable enough to sit and wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
American Dreams
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Economic Hitmen ... The problem is that the greedy bastards never learn, fuck you know what, I think Ukraine is better off joining Russia.
Of course they are; I thought everyone understood that. Russia wants a healthy functioning part of its ancient country; not a hollow corpse.
Im rootin for Putin ! Let's get bumper stickers. Send one to Barry !
'Bout "Rutin fer Pootin" or something 1337?
I think you just described the mandate of the IMF. You forgot to mention that the assets are sold at fire sale prices to western multinational corporations, primarily American ones.
The IMF has emerged from the global crisis bigger and more powerful. But this column argues that the capital controls it required Iceland to adopt in 2008 are not of the soft and cuddly modern type that slow hot money flows. Instead they are akin to the draconian controls common in the 1950s. They violate the civil rights of Icelanders and significantly hamper economic growth.
http://www.voxeu.org/article/iceland-and-imf-why-capital-controls-are-en...
but but but Iceland prosecuted their evil bankers!
...Doesn't that describe the former soviet union? My Hungarian and Polish friends say so. Same dudes?
http://adst.org/2013/06/hungary-escapes-the-shadow-of-the-soviet-union/
“I'll transmit this to Vladimir”
IMF = International Malevolence Fund
You betcha. plus one hundred on that. Rootin for Putin !!
Telling them to go to war for money - this world truely is Fucked beyond repair. Good luck to us all.
Not telling them just that they have to go to war, telling them they have to win. If they lose the East, Ukraine loses the "loan."
Russia simply needs to shut down the fucking energy supply line. Stupid fucks in the East still believe they have real power with bullshit paper promises that have been "created" out of thin air.
17 billion? Don't do it for less that $34 billion. Maybe they should try for a cost plus contract.
For the past 6 weeks or so it looked like there was a very high probability of Eastern Ukraine splitting off from Kiev and the IMF only officially acknowledges it now?
Wow, the ancient astronauts have appeared, buy their dip and chew the WWIII bail-in.
"The Ukrainians were put there for a purpose...and now they must fulfill it", sayeth the Button Pushers.
Yep, were right on schedule for August 2014. The fireworks this time should be even more spectacular than August 1914.
Or October, 1917.
October 2014 will have the fireworks many are
dreaming of.
pretty good article in the Guardian the other day on Russia/Ukraine:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
I don't think you have to believe Putin to be the Second Coming to get the sense that the MSM is more or less doing the same war propagandizing they did in the Run up to Iraq. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, given the concerted effort to lie us into wars with Syria and Iran - but I am.
I find it very hard to listen to friends and family, smart people, uncritically recite what they read in the NYT or what they see on CNN. The same people who would recognize RT as having a pro-Russian slant, or who would mock Fox news as "right wing" tripe, seem blissfully unaware that the news sources they rely on are, at best, just as biased, and at worst, essentially printing what the US State Department and/or CIA {or Mossad in some instances...} is telling them to.
The repeated efforts in Syria to pin gas attacks on Assad, the fact the US is openly arming Salafist psychopaths who behead and crucify people, who openly declare they want to establish a strict Islamist state devoid of Christians and other minorities, doesn't seem to impact, at all, the understanding the chattering class has of Assad as "butcher" and the Obama regime as worried about human rights and democracy. The same regime that rewards Israel for what it sanction other states for doing. The same regime that has claimed the right to execute Americans anywhere, at any time, if the President 'suspects' they may be 'aiding' 'terror' groups.
The American people aren't going to rebel.
They are going to rot.
If the Bundy event is any telling sign, I believe you may see pockets of resistence but many will share their concerns sitting on their arses on farcebook. Meanwhile others will be listening to Glenn Beck and holding signs.
Or do the true Christian thing and stop giving consent to idoltry and just starve the beast by walking away and let the whole thing rot and implode on it's own. Just create our own sanctuary elsewhere and fight like motherfuckers if forced to defend it and let everyone else reap what they've sown.
Perhaps Mr Beck is a dual citizen......
Hmmm
I wondering if YOU are a terr. We are still in a Wor on Terr. They hate us for our freedumbs. The Terr is gonna try to take our Constitution, I mean what's left of it, actually there lines through our rights and protections. Butt mark my words if yer a terr they're gonna put you in a hole where the Terr's go.
Rot?
No, not so lucky. They will be gassed, baked in ovens and enslaved in "work camps."
Escape the work camp and you're droned.
"---And this is the way the world ends; not with a bang, but with a whimper". famous poet of some kind.
All bankers must Fucking hang.
in case there was ever any doubt that bankers have fomented every war in history
The IMF is a global slave master. They use plantation economics, only in a way that only bankers can dream up. They look like they are coming to rescue the Ukraine, with 17 billion dollars, a loan, a loan that will be serviced for most people's life times. Any wealth creation in the economy and state assets will all flow to the IMF's chosen people. The people of the East are smart enough now, thanks to Russian media and the internet to know what the IMF is and what it is going to mean. Debt slavery and the taking apart of East Ukrainan industry so German industry can fill the gap. Million or more will lose thier jobs, the money saved will go to service the IMF and Germany will replace the production. A new 44 million person captive market, vendor financed via the IMF. Imagine Greece, how it fell into a hell hole, then imagine Ukraine, same game, same winners, same losers.
NATO is the mafia enforcement gang for the EU Banker classes and the IMF chosen ones. In the end, until bankers are taken down by a world wide mass movement, they will laugh at us all and steal us blind. IMF is the focus of evil in the modern world, yet "YATS" the coup leader of Kiev is happy to enslave 44 million people. Study YATS, and see where his loyalties lie. I bet you can guess, him and Nuland, a pefect couple.
Jews are under 0.7% of the population of Ukraine...
something to bear in mind as you read about the "Ukrainian" oligarchs and putsch leaders, etc.
0.25% yet they won the Presidential "vote" LOL
Yet they are 90% of the Oligarchs!
It gets even better when you recall that it is a loan of imaginary "money" created ex nihilo. To pay it back you will have to produce and sell real things.
a great, and perhaps the key point of it all - the black magick {if you will} surrounding this "money."
The ECB is privately held, right?
Who owns it?
Satan.
Ding, ding, ding. we have a winnah, ladies and gents. I used to shoot lakecity55 in '59 when it was pretty fresh in my blueprinted Springfield at DCM military format matches; good ammo.
Are they of the same "tribe," you mean?
Well there it is. With the US having discarded its "we're the good guys" facade: we'll do what we want and what the fuck are you gonna do about it?, the IMF has, at last, raised its flag and shown its true colours: war is business, so get the fuck on with it we have profits to make.
So the IMF is now complicit in overt possible genocide against Russian ethics living in Ukraine?
Oh, that's old hat for them. During the breakup of Yugoslavia, every one of the little ethnic nations had an IMF 'political advisor' telling the government what to do. Kept that pot boiling for better than a year.
Putin is the new Sun Tzu...watch out EU/USA
Dont' warn them. Just watch and giggle. Rootin for Putin !!
Which, roughly translated, appears to mean "it rubs the lotion on its anus and it does this whenever it is told. it rubs the lotion on its anus or it gets the Greek hose again" says IMF "Buffalo Bill" Gumbs.
This is disgusting
Lucent basically went bankrupt when they resorted to vendor financing to "fix" the books. Russia was on the road to likewise when it organized to loan $15B to the Ukraine.
The US sells little to the Ukraine and has little to offer. Seems rather stupid to be involved here. Let the EU and Russia figure this one out.
Lastly, why is the US, through the IMF, funding Europe so heavily now? WWII ended a long time ago.
IMF is now the advance cadres of the American Empire. I noted their fine work in Yugoslavia in the early 90's, which ended up in a civilized socialist country (according to the Yugoslavians I knew) becoming an ethnic killing ground that ended up a US Army occupied zone. Got to get the nations on the periphery into the core so the neoliberal have more resources and people under their control.
Stupid means nothing to psycotics. See Brezinsky, for instance; but wear dark glasses. All mental patients have some kind of story as to why they had to beat their grandmother to death with a garden rake; it's just that it never makes any sense.
All the goodies are in the east.... NO HONEY, NO MONEY
and South...
I think that was a smart move on the IMF's part. Will Russia honor the debt generated by Crimea and any portions of the Ukraine that they assimilate?
I expect the debt allocation of the Ukraine between regions is something that Russia has discussed internally. This statement by the IMF is something that was predictable.
On paper, Lagarde has the wrong half of the Ukraine committed to the loan. The wealth and productivity is in the Eastern half. Mistake after mistake with the IMF. With Strauss-Kahn, we understood his drive to plug holes. But Lagarde seems to prefer whirlpools.
To Fix-ItSilly:
You NAILED it !!!! Kiev now control the LEAST economically valuable regions of Ukraine! The most valuable areas of Ukraine are the eastern industrial & miining region and the agricultural central (north-to-south) region. And both these regions are extremely pro-Russian.
BTW: Did anyone see the photos and videos of the HUGE PARADE held in Lvov (in west Ukraine) earlier this week celebrating the Ukrainian WAFFEN SS brigade that was part of the German army's NAZI Waffen SS during World War 2? They had all kinds of NAZI and FASCIST flags and symbols! It was bone-chiilingly SCARY to see it !!!
-- Jack
(an American living in Ukraine)
Jack4952
Jack, if the guys in this photo are those who marched in Lvov, are you really worried?! I'm 70 and they're older than I am! They all look like grandfathers.
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_28/Ukraines-Lvov-held-march-to-mark-Waffen-SS-Halychyna-division-anniversary-0434/
Whenever you mention the divine Christine, (Lagarde), I recall the news photo of her riding her bicycle in Paris to save gas. Com-Plete-ly Crazy. Crazy. Not just a little bit Crazy, Com-Plete-ly Crazy.
Here is hoping that Christine Lagarde ends up in the front line and experiences some of the pain and suffering she seems so happy to dish out.
Russian soldiers: "Ha, we have captured you, Christine. Now, we will have our way with you, evil witch!"
CL: "I am an illuminatti! I was raped 1000 times and turned into a reptilian, you fools. I will rape You!"
Soldiers: "Look! She is changing shape! OMG! Run, men, it is a human lizard!"
CL: "And I am hungry for man-flesh!"
you're a sick little bunny aren't you Bugs.
Ehhhhh.....That's right, doc!
One can only pray.
*IMF URGES UKRAINE TO REACH PRICE ACCORD WITH GAZPROM BY SEPT
Why September, why not July or August?
The only major world event I can think of is the Scottish independence referendum vote to break away from Great Britain is scheduled for September 18th. Is this related maybe since it could cause some serious problems with the banking system if RBS goes 'independent'.
Because winter is then coming and germany would freeze without
Wrong. Germans have their direct gas line called the Nord stream. The Polish take the brunt of that gas shutdown along with the peripheries like Slovakia and Hungary. And if they really want to put the squeeze on NATO and the EU they will have Belarus cut off the gas to Poland also at the same time. Winter is part of it but really isn't Western Europe that freezes, more like their economies come to grinding halt because that extra gas is needed to power the economy. They get enough elsewhere to keep the heat on if needed.
Whether they choose to if forced at that point to keep the economies from crashing at the expense of freezing people to death well who knows until that bridge needs to be crossed but based on recent history I would assume they will do just that but try to hide it while doing it.
Now May 1...winter is not all that far away there..
Guardian headline from yesterday:
"Ukraine's government has lost control of east, says acting president Oleksandr Turchynov says security forces are unable to control situation in Donetsk and Luhansk region." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/30/ukraine-government-lost-con...Hard to control the situation when you're busy surrendering or not reporting for duty. This "President" hasn't exactly got the hearts and minds of the people behind him.
Is there a link to someone actually saying it?
I believe it's possible, I'd just like to see who said it.
Y'all want duckets? Y'all best get to suiciding yourselves!
Without the East , Ukraine not eonomically viable for justifying IMF loan. Similarly, without East, Russia military industrial complex and Ukraine industry suffers major setback as would Russian Black Sea navel fleet without Crimea.
Sounds like there is reason enough to fight although IMF has no Army and Nato lacks will to fight knowing EU economy dependant on Russian energy would collapse. Since unelected Kiev government already indicated they are unable to control events in East, Russia has huge advantage going into May 25 elections. Therefore future focus will be on election process and how elections will be conducted in various regions. This could lead to violence which would prompt Russian intervention. Next three weeks will be crucial for future of Ukraine. In meantime talk of sanctions are irrelavant as effect of sanctions would not be felt until after elections.
No sane person wants war but these greedy psycho vitches and all the corrupt corporations, special interests, foreign countries and crazy billionaires, who own our politicians, DO want war.
Things can go from bad to worse in less than a day. Most living Americans haven't seen war and we don't know enough to be frightened or prepared. If a Russian war spills into the US, (and why shouldn't it? We started it) Americans will be unprepared and many will starve to death. Please, if you can, stock up on fuel, food, meds, drink and supplies. Have a garden. Have somewhere to go in the event of an attack. CYA doesn't hurt.
Here's where you'd think the people in those countries would be be stirred to action. I mean, they have lived through wars being fought in their own cities, being shelled in their own homes. They saw what a mess was left...you'd think they'd be pulling their hair out at this constant agitating for war with Russia!
I think Legarde sprang full grown from Beezelbub's asshole.
Find the Charlie Rose interview of Legarde. Watch their faces when he asks her about inflation. See the SMIRK shared between them? That is as close to a full reptilian shape shift you'll see. The arrogant, insider, tribal, overlord class is exposed. They're both Bilderberg CFR tools.
She's the worst!
Check.
Does IMF think that if they pay Gazprom's bill that Russia will pacify eastern Ukraine? Makes little sense otherwise, but zero chance Russia can be bought.
I hope these folks have considered the fact that a war fought in Ukraine would be like, right next door...Europe doesn't really have a track record of doing very well during superpower conflicts, and it's not like we here in America are going to be fighting in the streets of downtown Manhattan...it's all going to be happening in THEIR neighborhood.
The European countries might want to slap a muzzle on the IMF before they find themselves being dragged into something very unpleasant. The last big war left the place a hell of a mess you know...
If the model here is the IMF's heavy involvement in the breakup of Yugoslavia, none of the fighting spilled over into the next door nations. Indeed, Albania kept pumping thugs into the country before and after the US military occupied several regions. The last gasp was when the Albanian Mafia tried to reproduce their success in neighboring Macedonia. The government kicked ass and the US didn't send in the Air Force, so that didn't go anywhere.
Keep to the script and it will stay a low-level conflict mostly fought for news stories.
On the other hand, at that time Russia was led by a drunken patsy leading a self-destructive privitization orgy. Things are a little different this time...
Oh yeah, Vlad the Bad is a "little different" alright. check that. hmm-hmm. I'm Rootin for Putin !! Let's send a condolence card to Barry !
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the IMF may have stepped on their dicks this time.
Impossible shortness prevents that in real.
More like all those thuggeries been stepping on each others...
better zipper up before bear rips it...
with golf shoes
The interpretation of the IMF's comments are not necessarily what this article suggests. In my opinion.
"Redesigning" is not the same as "cancelling".
And if the IMF do mean cancelling, it will be overt political meddling.
I'm certain the IMF has a political advisor to the coup government who'll explain exactly what it means. And this is overt political meddling.
what dream world do you live in?
I don't pretend to read the minds of IMF officials. And you obviously don't need to because you already know.
Son, this is jawboning.
UKRAINE REINSTATES MILITARY CONSCRIPTION AS SITUATION WORSENS IN EAST -- AFP
Sell all your Gold Silver and Oil then?
Link?
that should do wonders for stability in Kiev where the youth thought they were getting a free pass into the EU
If 'the youth' were dumb enough to fall for the stories their CIA handlers told them, they deserve everything they get.
Draft dodging emigrations to Russia. Desertions. Unfired weapons in combat. Fraggings. There are so many challenges to forcing the unwilling into battle.
You betcha; basically it just doesn't work. I think the 'Prez of the mess" there knows that. I think Russia will just wait for the whole thing to fall apart of it's own weight; maybe with a little help from Spetznaz.
Friends, did you get some silver?
Did you get a little gold?
What did you bring me, my dear friends,
To keep me from the gallows pole?
From an American now living in Ukraine:
WHY does the IMF make this demand?
The IMF is REALLY after the assets of Ukraine. And the major assets of industry and mining are in the eastern region. The other major asset is farm land, which in in the central region (extending north-south).
The regions currently under the control of the post-coup Kiev government are: the western region (a poor area with no real production of any kind) and the region in the north-center around Kiev (which has some agriculture, but no real industry).
THEREFORE: in order for the IMF to gain control of the MOST VALUABLE ASSETS in Ukraine (which they can then sell of to the West), it is essential that the Kiev government have possession of the eastern and central (north-south) regions of Ukraine. And these are the very regions (extremely pro-Russian) most likely to secede from Ukraine.
In other words, if Kiev is unable to hand over the eastern and central (north-south) regions of Ukraine to the IMF, then what iremains of Ukraine is of relatively little economic value the IMF.
I'll give you a hint.
Ukraine/Old Khazaria/New Samaria. New Khazaria/Israel, Old Samaria/West Bank. Palestinians the most likely closely blood related as confirmed by science to the orignal 12 tribes of Israel and Joshua aka Jesus of Nazareth. It is all about wiping out the last vestiges of the real teachings and truth. Just pod people aka disguised mercenaries created by the empire working for the empire at this point, nothing more.
dup..now called Saka Scythians broke from captivity to west under destruction of Assyrian empire..
Let's stay in the realm of monothesism since the oldest bloodlines and entities are most concerned over this. The 'elites' love them some pure inbreed bloodlines all competition not only needs to have it's history either destroyed or rewritten but the bloodlines need to be extinguished also. So how does this tie into today and Islam and The Vatican specifically and Catholism in general.
As I've touched on briefly after the Jewish revolt and second destruction of the temple the Romans basically taxed Hebrews out of existence with the majority converting to Apostolic Christianity or going pagan/underground. The majority jews left were Samaritan circumsized gentiles. That is how the pod people took over Judaism, through dillution of purity kind of like how inflation works with purchasing power. They then went on to bastardize the Old Testament changing the name of God where convenient among other bastardizations, Jew would have held the name of God sacred and would never change the name once god told Moses directly what his name was for example. These supposed pure Hebrew Masoretic then translated in Latin from the same text written works are the basis for the Old Testament used by the Catholic Church and in the Koran for that matter. "Words of God". Now what if you had a 'holy' book that directly and conclusively contradicts those translations and proves it well there is it is called the Septuagint which is known to have been translated before the fall of the 2nd temple in Koine Greek from Hebrew . So these pod people jews later converted Khazars in the empire of Khazaria (where modern day Ukraine resides) to this bastardized Masoretic text version of Judaism.
Guess who knocked out the Khazars and took their lands, Russia.
What else does Russia then and now have in common they are primarily Christian Orthodox, the Orthodox church uses the Septuagint as source for the Old Testament. Same with the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church.
So you can see why all 3 would have a hard on for the Russians here besides the nation state fronts and typical resource geopolitical stuff. This goes to the very heart of empires and belief here.
Da second Rome, hidden, vile, corrupt and discredited vs Third Rome, survived/resurrected/restored and on rise.
plus the other enemies you mention..
I use Septuagint mainly
Key IMF population reduction strategy!
Everyone's been saying the IMF and the EU will fuck Ukraine to tears. They're now doing that and they haven't even got any money. Imagine afterwards.
Plus didn't the US helpfully air lift all the physical for safe keeping?
What's going on with the 10 yr. UST today? Are things in Ukraine really that bad?
These guys really are living in the past..they still do not know who they are dealing with at this point? Putin is getting East Ukraine and that's best case scenario..they are not frightened by the hypocritical US/ EU war mongers.
This whole charade that we orchestrated is now compelling the innocents of Ukraine into civil war over money? The mask is completely off at this point..so if they are not interested in peace in the nation and not interested stability because they are advocating the opposite then what is their interest? The Borg just wants to assimilate another slave nation.
Who are we as a nation any longer?
I'm glad China is getting a birds eye view and an important lesson of how to prepare accordingly for when their time comes. I question if these recent events over there in China are a pre-emotive distraction to keep their eye off Ukraine and warn them about getting further in bed with Russia.
Is this real life?
Another banker sponsored war.
This is a straightforward XDR/bloodshed swap. Deplorable.
Total retardo land, isn't it?
Every time you think, this has to be the tipping point...
ori
I'd like to read the statement attributed to IMF, before commenting.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russia-challenges-eu-energ...
Russia has filed a complaint against the European Union's energy market laws claiming they violate international rules, the World Trade Organization said Thursday.
Among the stakes in the challenge to EU policy are how much control Russia's state-controlled gas company, Gazprom, will be able to exert over European pipelines and the degree to which Europe can diversify its supply lines.
Russia's case takes aim at the EU's so-called Third Energy Package, a bundle of laws that bans suppliers from owning transit facilities, such as pipelines. The laws took effect in September 2009 with the aim of opening up European gas and electricity markets.
In particular, the EU laws will affect the South Stream pipeline, in which Russia's Gazprom holds a 50 percent stake. The pipeline is due to provide gas from Russia to Bulgaria, Serbia, Croatia, Hungary, Slovenia, Austria and Italy by running under the Black Sea and circumventing Ukraine. It is expected to ship up to 63 billion cubic meters of gas from 2018.
European officials have warned Gazprom it would have to allow third-party gas producers to use the South Stream pipeline to comply with its new regulations. Russia is Europe's third-largest trading partner and its biggest gas and oil supplier, providing Europe with about a quarter of its gas.
Russia argues that the EU regulations are "inconsistent" with international trade rules on subsidies, services and other measures, the WTO says. The next step is for Russian-EU diplomats to try to settle their differences through consultations at the WTO. After that, an arbitration panel could be set up.
According to a WTO statement, the dispute focuses on the production, supply and transmission of natural gas or electricity, alleged discriminatory certification requirements, and access to network capacity by transmission service operators. The Geneva-based WTO oversees the rules of trade between nations that affect the flow of goods and services, exports and imports.
I dumped half my gold yesterday and dove into GAZPROM
Not to say I told you so but...
Well, Okay. I told you so.
Putin's "US can stop this at any time." BS has once again been revealed for what it is - BS.
The Ukraine crisis is a very simple story.
EUROPE: "We must have alternate suppliers".
PUTIN: "No."
EUROPE: "Ukraine will lease us transport on their pipelines this year! (2008)"
PUTIN: "No they won't."
EUROPE: "Yes they will! The energy will be coming from central asia via Azerbaijan and Abkhasia, Georgia."
PUTIN: "No they won't. I've just invaded Georgia, and shut off the energy to Ukraine. They will do as they are told."
EUROPE: "Then we'll buy it from Africa via Libya."
PUTIN: "No you won't. North Africa is about to descend into a series of Civil Wars. You'll buy it from me or you won't have it. Now give me an Olympics, and shine my shoes."
EUROPE: "You'll piss off the US."
PUTIN: "So what?"
EUROPE: "There will be bombings."
PUTIN: "So what? They are mentally and morally weak. I'll have their ambassador killed, and they will go back to their side of the world and hide."
EUROPE: "Fine. We'll get it from the Gulf."
PUTIN: "No you won't."
EUROPE: "Yes we will. You can't attack Turkey without WWIII. And except for 100 miles through Syria, the land is all in friendly hands. You'll lose this time."
PUTIN: "No I won't. Syria is my ally."
EUROPE: "Assad won't be in power forever. In fact, he may already have lost ... coincidentally."
PUTIN: "No he didn't. He has powerful friends. Me."
EUROPE: "If there are WMD there, the Americans will come."
PUTIN: "No they won't. You are on your own."
EUROPE: "About Ukraine doing as it is told... Well, the thing is, people in the West like us more than you."
PUTIN: "So what? I have an Army. You have Bankers. The Americans are far away. I win."
World government here and now; the EU and the WTO are sooo fuucked. The central authority will order everything. "that's not your pipeline". Get fucked cunts. Boy do those Europeans need to wake up; it's either a free market and capitalism or you're fucked; and that's it; there's no more.
"I made him an offer he couldn't refuse."
Any intelligent man or woman could resolve this issue with Putin in about 45 minutes. It's not that hard.
The U.S. and EU are on the wrong side of history on this one.
We could fix this. We could accept some realities. We could work mutually with honesty and integrity for all sides.
It's possible. Until, of course, you realize who works for the State Department and who leads it.
Doomed.
The Kiev Rent-a-mob should demand payment in gold like Kaddaffi's rent-a-mob defense army, dumbasses are working for future loan liabilities (duh) talk about chumpville.
Bomb your neighbors [the ones we don't like so we don't get our hands dirty] or you don't get the dough.
Attack Russia.
We'll get our asses kicked!
Exactly. Then we will come in to "help."
I wrote an article a week ago asserting that Obama was trying to get us into a war: http://thebullelephant.com/insane-ukraine/
And this pretty much completely validates my thesis.
The US, the EU and NATO know better than to seriously mix it up with Russia, but appaerently they are getting the IMF to "loan" the Ukrainians a bunch of dough if they will do it for them.
Obama is just one of the puppets. Can't you see the cords?
Of course. Keep in mind that my audience on that blog is Republicans in the state of Virginia, many of whom are not quite where we are in "getting it". If you read my other articles you can see that I am trying to play the role of gate-opener for those people, show them enough to get them interested in the right issues. Waking up is a path you can't force anyone down, red pills can only be swallowed voluntarily.
Hello, Ukraine. IMF here. Do you want a loan?
Yes.
There are 5 cartridges in this revolver. Put it to your head. Pull the trigger. If you land on the 1 empty chamber, you get a loan!
IMF's version of Russian roulette ?