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Meet The New Labor "Class": Mobile Creatives

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Submitted by Charles Hugh-Smith of OfTwoMinds blog,

The Mobile Creative credo: trust the network, not the corporation or the state.

In America's Nine Classes: The New Class Hierarchy, I described a "wild card" new class of workers that doesn't fit the conventional paradigms: Mobile Creatives. I use the word mobile here not to suggest mobility between physical places (though that is one factor in this class's flexibility) but mobility between sectors, tools and ways of earning income.

The key characteristic of the Mobile Creative class is that they live by this credo: trust the network, not the corporation or the state. The essence of neofeudalism is debt penury and wage-slave loyalty to the New Nobility that owns the debt.

The essence of state-cartel capitalism (the dominant form of capitalism) is the state dismantles all social connections and wealth between the state and the atomized individual recipient of state welfare so the individual depends entirely on the state for his/her identity and essentials of life.

Where once existed a complex ecosystem of public life, social capital and networks of reciprocity and economic meaning, now lies a wasteland, stripmined by the state to leave nothing but the state and its ever-growing armies of dependents.

The global corporation profits from this same wasteland: the ideal arrangement to maximize debt-based consumption is an atomized individual who has no identity or self-worth other than consumerist worship of brands and corporate-supplied convenience, in other words, a permanent adolescent driven by insecurity, fear and impulse-driven consumption.

The Mobile Creative class operates outside these two states of dependency. It also operates outside the conventional labor-management divide of Marxism and socialism. Since global capital is mobile, and the state enforces central banking and cartel pricing, the class of "owners" and the state are one entity.

You either resist the entire state-cartel system or your resistance is nothing but meaningless gestures aimed at chimera.

Longtime correspondent Kevin Mercadante (Out of Your Rut) noted that being a Mobile Creative isn't just a different mode of livelihood--it's a different way of living, thinking and being.

"Mobile Creatives" describes me to the letter - I felt as if I was reading a script of my own life (at least since the financial meltdown). It also takes in a few of my friends, so it's a very real category.

This is beyond the scope of the article, but one of the things I've found to be a revelation is that the mobile creative lifestyle extends well beyond career and workstyle. Once you adopt it, everything else in your life falls in behind it.

Because of the creativity and independence that the lifestyle provides, there's less need for high cost entertainment. Vacations and weekends are less important - there's joy and adventure to be had every day. You're less concerned with retirement. You develop a sense that you'll survive what ever happens. You see more opportunities and fewer obstacles. At the same time, you're also painfully aware that things don't always work out. But you also learn that failure isn't terminal. That's huge.

Spending patterns change too. You find less expensive ways to do everything - to buy food and clothing, to fix your car, and even to entertain yourself. Free thought expands, and you find yourself drawn to other mobile creatives. Conversations with others are deeper and more meaningful - when you meet to discuss work, you're really paying attention, always on high alert for new opportunities and potential joint ventures.

On the surface, being a mobile creative is less secure than traditional careers, but I wouldn't trade it. I've been in so-called stable careers, only to discover that they're only secure until the big picture game changes. Being a mobile creative enables you to adapt to change, rather than getting rolled over by it.

By giving this emergent class a name, you're contributing to it's survival and growth. Mobile creatives could be the class that finally replaces the factory- and service-workers classes as the new "backbone" of American socio-economic life. That's what's been missing for at least 15 years. By giving the class a name you're formally declaring its existence, providing a framework for the lifestyle, and even establishing it as a legitimate goal.

Thank you, Kevin, for describing the Mobile Creative class better than I could. Who better to describe this way of living better than one who is living it every day?

In essence, my new book Get a Job, Build a Real Career and Defy a Bewildering Economy is a blueprint for becoming a Mobile Creative.


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Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:35 | 4716787 narnia
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Bootstrapping entrepreneurs even exist in North Korea.  I guess you have to make up a new name to a centuries old concept to have a web address or sell some t-shirts or something.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:06 | 4716923 DutchR
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If you read Charles Hugh-Smith post backwards it makes more sence: "In essence, my new book "Get a Job, Build a Real Career and Defy a Bewildering Economy" is a blueprint for becoming a Mobile Creative." .......

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:34 | 4717042 Headbanger
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Nothing much new here.   I been doing just that for some 40 years now and so have a lot of other "mobile-ites"

I know professionals (like attorneys) who plow snow for some good cash and cause it works off all their tensions.

And a local sheriff who does damn good gunsmithing.

But I guess it's a good reminder to those who believe they should and must do only what they were educated to do.

So all you attorneys out there.. Buy a nice big plow rig and make some cash and meet new clients at the same time!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:41 | 4717082 pods
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But those two examples aren't "mobile creative" they are second jobs.


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:52 | 4717110 Headbanger
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Well one of em sure is "mobile creative" when you're mobile plowing snow up into all kinds of pretty sculpted snow banks!

Hey, that's real artistic talent! 

And the sheriff will sure get mobile on your ass for owing him any for some nice gunsmithing!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:31 | 4717281 midtowng
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"mobile creatives" aren't a class. You would think that someone who claims to know something about economics would know that.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:07 | 4716925 Raymond K Hessel
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In essence, this article is an advert for my new book Get a Job, Build a Real Career and Defy a Bewildering Economy is a blueprint for becoming a Mobile Creative.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:01 | 4717667 machineh
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Put this together with Charles's bright idea yesterday to 'print the money' to pay Social Security, and what've you got?

A smart phone that spits out counterfeit bills, and a fast getaway car.

Mobile Creatives -- don't change a hundred for them!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:43 | 4717091 Seer
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But, but...  The only way out is to just find the right "label" to apply and it all will work out swimingly!

By the time people disect the "label" the originators will be off and enjoying the money made from everyone trying to purchase the definition from them.

I use no labels.  My advice: "Just Fucking Do It" (hoping that Nike doesn't sue me)

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:38 | 4716793 teslaberry
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charles hugh smith ------more full of shit. 


this kind of class breakdown rubbish could be useful for the new york times. or forbes or wall street journal. i expect them to publish something like this soon enough. 


an economy full of 'mobiles' is just code for under-employed seasonal employees. what happened in the agricultural and manufacturing sector, for hire labor classes, has now happened in the tech sector. and people are bragging about this as if it is a 'new' thing. trying redefine an old pattern with new language . 

the ideology of technophilia is just an excuse for distracting people from a dying goods and services economy, by pointing to the leading edge service sector, interenet technoloyg, and implicity claiming this one bright light is sufficient to capture and remove your attention from the bigger picture. 

on top of that, that so called 'bright' light is mostly just enterntainment and consumer based advertising streams. 


mobile creatives? really? these people will all be out of jobs after the next internet bust. contract and temp workers. this is a 'new' class? are you joking? " by giving it a new name you....blablabla"


branding a nonexistent thing does not make it so. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:52 | 4716855 pods
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I used to know a lot of people like this. In the 90's even.

They were called young.  They didn't have families, and very little if any possessions.  Eventually they grew up and realized that living like that was not the easiest way to have a family or put down roots.

I think that "mobile creatives" is a fancy way to describe modern gypsies.


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:00 | 4716893 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Pods, that was the first thing that comes to mind. A wandering free agent who will never have a family or anything relevant. You can do that when you are young, but it is a bitch when older.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:14 | 4716954 Oh regional Indian
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Take it from a practitioner, not easy, but very rewording. ;-)

Some days are like tilting at windmills...


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:45 | 4717098 James_Cole
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They were called young. 

Exactly what I had thought...'mobile creatives' aka young people. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:49 | 4717109 Seer
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Actually, it's how Big Business has tended to push it all.  More and more "contract" work.  There are housing developments, RENTALS, catering to employees for a given company (located right along some industrial parkway).  If anything this plays right in to TPTB's hands.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:04 | 4717451 udaman
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dip-shit losers with no skills: not even "jack-of-all-master-of-none"; just jerk-offs

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 20:02 | 4718225 uniman
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Perhaps "putting down roots" and "raising a family" are part of the problem? On the one hand, to the extent that I've enjoy/experienced both of these, I'll readily admit that there's a lot to be said for both. On the other hand, both of those ideas are very problematic in today's world. Just becuase they can be fun does not mean they should be goals.

There are too many people on this Earth and having more of them just digs us deeper into a hole. Establishing "roots" makes one a fixed target. A fat little lump of wealth just waiting to be harvested by our "farmers" (ruling class). As you recoil in horror in thinking "but what if _everybody_ did that?" please try to imagine how society might heal in the absence of population pressure. Also imagine how withered Leviathan might grow if its farm animals (we the people) stopped their practice of putting down roots to grow crops for it.

Also realize that "rootless" people are far more judgment proof than ordinary farm animals. If you don't have children, or real estate, or bank accounts, or tax forms, or driver's licenses, or insurance, or any of those chains, then you'll be in a much better position to push back.

Everyday I wake and I sleep well. I'm at peace and am content, most of the time. I'm actually somewhat overweight so I obviously find food. My effective tax rate is lower than most people's and I have an over all more enjoyable life. My life is nowhere near the worst that people have experienced.

For a fictional treatment of how people with nothing left to lose can organize and push back, please see The Brotherhood Report

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:26 | 4716995 Cathartes Aura
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ticks awaiting that jump/cling to fur,

springs to mind.


though nomadic tribal living is not the same meme, hm.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:40 | 4717591 csmith
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Charles Hugh Smith - anagram for Chas Hurl Shit Ghem

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:38 | 4716795 Jethro
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I'd prefer not to put myself into any niche.  I'd rather be as much of a truly modern Reniassance man as possible, and not to define myself so narrowly that I can't adapt and overcome. 

I think that in light of our current economic trends, it'd be a good idea for people to figure out how to generate untaxable income.  Everbody in the third world does this already.  I guess we'll get our turn shortly. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:10 | 4716938 Raymond K Hessel
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Jethro, you just made a fact right there.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:40 | 4716803 Chief Wonder Bread
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Karl Marx couldn't conveniently pigeonhole what he called the lumpen proletariat into his system either.

That's the first sign of bullshit. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:40 | 4716806 ptoemmes
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Handyman...good with actual tools like hammers, saws, wrenches, etc.  Non electric hand tools too - just in case.  Work with wood, masonary, electrical, plumbing, etc.  Build and, more importanly, fix shit.



Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:41 | 4716811 LawsofPhysics
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Good thing there's no such thing as a "kill switch" for power grids or communication lines...

oh wait, nevermind.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:46 | 4716830 Kreditanstalt
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Rubbish.  This new class is still chasing "dollars" via selling long as you're still locked into the "earn more dollars-spend more dollars-direct deposit-pay your taxes" system you'll never be anything new or different...

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:47 | 4716832 Ignatius
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Were Al Swearigen and Sy Tolliver "mobile creatives"?

One week they're building or buying a bar/whorehouse in Deadwood from stolen native lands.  Through personal contacts they may discover there's money in the opium trade or advantages to reaching out to the local Chinese community.  Then there's selling dubious gold claims or introducing the locals to easy fortunes possible from playing craps.  They both saw the advantages of just clubbing the hoople heads, robbing them, and tossing 'em in the creek (though "that would be wrong", as Sy pointed out).  And, of course, the steady money from strategically employing road agents.

I like this article.  Creativity, networking combined with entrepeneurial spunk can achieve miracles.  Don't limit yourself, ever.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:52 | 4716853 Grande Tetons
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Worked for Mr. Woo and his pool of cheap labor. 

Cocksuckers! Woo have last laugh. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:48 | 4716835 i_call_you_my_base
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It's awfully convenient that this trumpeted class is written about by those in it.

In any case, try to do anything at scale under this framework. Try to build a building or a bridge or a large piece of software or anything that requires a larger pool of labor.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:49 | 4716836 Zirpedge
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Aren't they called Gypsies? "Mobile Creatives" soundlike draft dodging hippies who get face tattoos to qualify for disability. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:49 | 4716838 waterhorse
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"The key characteristic of the Mobile Creative class is that they live by this credo: trust the network, not the corporation or the state."


Yes, because the network is 100% reliable... /s

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:37 | 4717058 Ignatius
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Can you here me now?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 20:13 | 4718260 uniman
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You hardly need 100% reliability in order to improve upon Corp or State.  You can also view "network" as the network of people that you know, trust, deal with.  This is far more reliable than Corp or State

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:52 | 4716850 madcows
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what a nonsense article.  i can't find a "real"  job, so I'll snub my nose at those full-time corporate workers and pretend that I get wonderful emotional returns from talking with cardboard house mates, instead of your house with a warm bed.


I'll call myself Mobile and Free.  I'm free to play my guitar and sing songs.  What is this?  A fucking commercial for ObAmerica?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:06 | 4717684 machineh
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It's the freakin Who, from like 45 years ago:

I can pull up by the curb
I can make it on the road
Goin' mobile
I can stop in any street
And talk with people that we meet
Goin' mobile
Keep me movin'

Out in the woods
Or in the city
It's all the same to me
When I'm drivin' free, the world's my home
When I'm mobile

Hee, hoo!
beep beep!


Fuck yeah, that's a plan ...


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 13:57 | 4716876 Bill of Rights
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I highly recommend listening to Stephanie Kelton and Randy Wray’s latest podcast. They lay out in some detail the role of interest bearing government debt in shifting income towards rentiers, either of the small variety but skewed, of course, towards the wealthy.

Especially in liquidity constrained currency, such as under the gold standard, such debt would significantly shift real income towards the wealthy.

Good stuff



Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:09 | 4717165 Seer
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"Especially in liquidity constrained currency, such as under the gold standard, such debt would significantly shift real income towards the wealthy."

So, unlimited free credit?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:02 | 4716885 cougar_w
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I'm pretty much a mobile creative. Knew right away what that meant. 12-16 hour work days are fairly common for me, esp. given my age. But I have a lot of fun and it keeps me young.

Heh. Oh for example: I'm writing a dirty novel. Short format should be done in a few months, a riff on "50 Shades of Gray" except the lead is a technology worker neo-feminist becomes a total radical flag-waving sex slave.  I shit you not. It is absolutely epic! She is a great character, a lot like my character Diamond except she's a contractually bound slave "serving" her master 24/7 (oh yeah) and squeezing in a constant stream of adventures on the side. So of my 16 hour days about 4 hours right now are spent writing smutty bondage porn featuring a violent red head from Scotland who makes her own swords and axes by hand in a forge. Anytime you can devote part of your life to slutty axe-wielding Scottish red heads in heat you are winning the game, my friends. Oh hell yeah.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:09 | 4716934 Tortfeasor
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I'd like to read that. Think you can get Karen Gillan to play the lead?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:31 | 4716963 cougar_w
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With about twice as much red hair, and really curly, and green eyes and a glance that can freeze your mortal soul ... yeah she's there.

Edit: This! This is her! This is how I see Rose MacIntyre of Rose, Upon a Time!

Except wearing a slave collar and shouldering a war axe. Oh and she's thinking about either sucking your D until your brain melts and runs out your ears, or else breaking your arm, which she does depending on how quickly you apologize for calling her "ginger".

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 21:29 | 4718459 FredFlintstone
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Tell me you are a horny chick?

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:05 | 4716913 Lin S
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Delusional article. 

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:06 | 4716918 Tortfeasor
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Those that poo poo this idea are just not getting the concept, but it is real. Freelance programmers and app builders, permaculture farmers and ranchers, the Jack Spirkos of the world, these are the Mobile Creatives. They are more akin to the Charles Darwins or the Marie Curies or young Steve Jobs of the world. Joel Salatin and Diego Footer fall into this new category.
They won't all change the world, at least not individually, but collectively they are outside the caste system. Free to try new ideas and unleash them on their personal network. And those personal networks are growing all the time.
If you don't "get it", it's ok. You aren't in it. You're somewhere else in this life. But the Mobile Creatives does a pretty good job of describing those people who are truly bucking the system.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:14 | 4716956 cougar_w
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I've got about 3 totally epic projects on the front burner all the time, and have for years. All of them completely off the books, off the chart, out of orbit! Nobody I work with knows the total me, all they get to see is the one small slice that I think is any of their business. My supervisor at the day job doesn't know I'm writing an epic heroic slutty porn novel. The theater producer doesn't know I code network software. The publisher doesn't know I build theater sets.

They have no fucking idea what I really do in total. And it suits me fine that they do not.

The guy in the next cube over says one day "I get the feeling I don't even know half of the cool things you do" and I say "and you never will."

Moving. All. The. Time.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:13 | 4717184 Seer
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"They have no fucking idea what I really do in total. And it suits me fine that they do not."

I do all sorts of things, so much so that I often confuse myself!  It's an issue of constant change: excuse I use to cover up my ADD.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:17 | 4716969 Raymond K Hessel
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Steve Jobs viewed his employees as indentured serfs.  :)


Can we stop giving hero worship to a dick who thought his employees were his property? Like right fucking now.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:29 | 4717022 cougar_w
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He was kinda brilliant tho. But yeah still, what you said.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:14 | 4717192 Seer
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"Can we stop giving hero worship"

Simplified it for ya!

(I'm just so sick of all the hero-worship; every fucking thing seems to come with some hero attached.)

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:48 | 4717380 cougar_w
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You are now my hero!

[waiting for head to explode]

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:08 | 4716930 Totentänzerlied
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The extended quotation reads like some kind of vox-pop interview by the Russian Pravda of yore. Just replace "mobile creative lifestyle" with "Soviet Marxist-Leninist communist revolutionary proletarian class consciousness". Sounds like a new name for contract information/knowledge "professionals" who get tossed around from one corporation to the next.

"The Mobile Creative class operates outside these two states of dependency."

So they don't pay taxes, file income taxes, take out loans, have lines of credit or credit cards, buy healthcare plans, invest in retirement funds, take out mortgages, or go to college, or buy useless plastic crap they don't need? 

This "emerging" class is just the newest attempt by a bunch of ridiculously deluded and incredibly overprivileged Westerners to avoid reality. They're skimming the top off the so-called knowledge economy, the latest and least tangible stage of the service economy. That's all.

Sounds like a PR campaign to generate interest in the likes of Simon Black (and CHS, of course) and that whole milieu of mostly white almost entirely male college-educated western pseudo-economic-news/doom-porn buy-my-newsletter-and-ebook bloggers that have absolutely flourished in the past decade.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:20 | 4716980 cougar_w
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Yeah we be liv'n da life, homie. re'conize!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:26 | 4717007 pods
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Oh damn that reminds me of that video that Vanilla Ice's dad did in New Joisey.  

I about pissed myself when I watched that one!

Livin da life.....I be livin da life...........


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:27 | 4717012 ParkAveFlasher
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Steve Jobs contributed _?_ to human society.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:40 | 4717074 cougar_w
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Macintosh and iPhone. And let me tell you as a father of teenagers, Steve Jobs totally changed their world completely.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:19 | 4717215 Seer
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Perfectly demonstrates my questioning people on their notions of claiming that they are/something is "productive."  When one gets down to it we are really good at rationalizing things, at pretending that we're productive.  It's one reason why I decided to get in to farming: although it's never sustainable, it's at least a bit more honest, for now, until we manage to settle back down to hunter-gatherer...).

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:23 | 4717239 ParkAveFlasher
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Computing was not nearly his innovation.  We are simply high up the technological parabola graphing electricity's discovery and exploitation and he is a most-apparent barrell-rider of that surge.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:50 | 4717388 cougar_w
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Thomas Edison didn't discover electricity.

Some details can count and yet still they don't matter.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:15 | 4717197 Seer
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Fucking nailed it!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:10 | 4717694 Seek_Truth
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"The Mobile Creative class operates outside these two states of dependency."

So they don't pay taxes, file income taxes, take out loans, have lines of credit or credit cards, buy healthcare plans, invest in retirement funds, take out mortgages, or go to college, or buy useless plastic crap they don't need?

I do consider myself in this class, and while I DO pay taxes and file income taxes, (only way not to is to work on a cash only or barter only basis) I DO NOT:

take out loans, (I save up for what I wish to purchase)

 have lines of credit or credit cards, (I save up for what I wish to purchase)

 buy healthcare plans, (I save up in case I need it for my health)

 invest in retirement funds, (I have work that I can do up to my dying day and plenty of clients)

take out mortgages, (I save up for what I wish to purchase)

or go to college, (went but paid for it myself)

 or buy useless plastic crap they don't need (nope don’t do that either).

Some of us DO think outside the box and limit to an absolute minimum, “playing their game”.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:24 | 4716943 JuliaS
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Robert Newman's take on "Employed Homeless"

Highly recommend you watch the whole piece even though it's about geopolitics as oppose to employment. It's right up ZH's valley.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:13 | 4716948 Wilcox1
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Awesome Post.  I think it describes human adaptability for the coming phase of degrowth.  Its a really positive post that faces head on the changes we have to make if we are to truly come to terms with living on a finite planet.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:21 | 4716976 pods
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You got all that from an ad from CHS' new book?

Maybe I missed the description but to me it sounded like the platitudes of TV motivational speakers.  The ones who will double your IQ or no money back.


(not downvoting you, just disaggreeing. God I have become a pussy; having to declare I didn't junk you.  I better man up, shit, cant say that either.)


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:25 | 4717248 Seer
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I hate the "voting" shit.  I think that it should be mandatory that anyone casting a "vote" HAS to leave a comment (though might only create a flood of utter gibberish).  I'l have to admit that I like to look for lots of arrows, and to look to challenge the "majority."  Regardless, people that attempt to present something as though they've spent at least a couple of brain cycles on it is a good thing (and I don't often down-arrow someone for it), rather than folks just tossing out a bunch of regurgitated crap, name-calling and other childish/party-pussy like stuff...

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:21 | 4716983 Flammonde
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No money from VC no creative mobile class. Give me six rounds of funding for dumbshit hype and I am mobile too.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:27 | 4717264 Seer
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True.  But, I can see that there could be community-based funding: of course, the community would expect to have the investment stay around.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:25 | 4717001 Platinum
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Trust the network? That's j



Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:28 | 4717268 Seer
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Oh my god! Quick, throw the man a line!

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:25 | 4717004 arby63
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Sounds good for as long as the electricity lasts. I'm not all that confident that electricity will be a stable function of our existence in the very near term. This summer will be a test of Obama shuttering coal-fired plants across the nation. One just closed near me and I know for a fact that I will be affected. No doubt about it. 

I am quite thankful I can communicate via the internet on sites like ZH but I think we all need to prepare for what is coming: blackout. brownout. It's on the way for sure.

It's all in keeping with the plan for chaos and the disintegration of the union. We were once a great place. A great nation. Now, we question our very existence and viability. Sure, a "mobile creative" does exist. I agree it's a fantastic reality....for now.

Again, however, we are dependent upon what may not be available soon. Oftentimes I get to questioning how much longer even the "assumed" foundations of life will be around.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:37 | 4717315 Seer
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Problem correctly identified.  Cause is not...

"It's all in keeping with the plan for chaos and the disintegration of the union."

Please, people, use some logic!

TPTB have control and wealth ALREADY.  This is possible ONLY through stability- status quo.  Time and time again history tells us that large-scale disturbances to the status quo do NOT present any guarantee that TPTB stay aloft.

"We were once a great place."

Life is great when the liquor is flowing.

"A great nation.CX"

Depends on from whose perspective, Kemosahbee.

"Now, we question our very existence and viability."

Because we're sobering up- the liquor ain't coming as readily as it had been. (resource depletion)

Take a gander at this to get an idea on the "natural" rise and fall of empires:

History just repeats itself.  We keep buying the same old story (about how we are great and about how someone else is responsible for when we become not-so-great).

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:35 | 4717047 Grosvenor Pkwy
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If you replace "Mobile Creative" with "Dumpster Diving" wherever it appears in the article, it makes a lot more sense.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:38 | 4717069 Ignatius
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Now that's funny.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:40 | 4717338 Seer
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Was doing that LONG before the term even existed.  Of course, I did it (scavanging for beer bottles) when I was a kid in order to get some spending money, not for my existence.  This was my "side job," mowing lawns was my "day job."

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 14:51 | 4717108 PeeramidIdeologies
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LOL Another large serving of negative mindless drivel from the zero brains crowd. Too bad.

I like this term mobile creatives. Anyone who can relate to this experience knows the advantages that come with having multiple work place skills sets. It never ceases to amaze me how the well skills I've learnt during one job posting translate into another. I always have a different perspective to offer in challenging situations and am comfortable in situations that I have never been involved with. On top of that, I can't remember the last time I had to pay someone to do something for me. Other then my taxes. I have done them before, but some people have special skills worth paying for.

Mobile creatives will be leading this economy forward in the coming years due to our increased understanding of the interconnectedness of day to day operations in society. Unfortunately for those unable to adopt the idea of being adaptive, you will find yourself trapped in your single lane of thinking and skills. I suggest you climb out of your box, if not physically then at least intellectually.

Good stuff Tyler's.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:47 | 4717371 Seer
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"am comfortable in situations that I have never been involved with"

I NEVER am, as this thinking can lead to over-confidence.  Nothing wrong with viewing something as one not being intimidated by.  Further, it's one thing to do something for oneself and it's another to do it for someone else (pay).

"Mobile creatives will be leading this economy forward"

I don't want to have anything to do with "this economy." I am NOT responsible.  Further, the "economy," as I have become to know it, is wholly based on an impossible premise: perpetual growth on a finite planet.

The chief cause of problems is solutions..

- Eric Sevareid


Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:19 | 4717505 PeeramidIdeologies
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"The chief cause of problems ARE solutions?!"

What kind of defeatist reach around logic is that? Maybe you can provide me with an example so that we can put this ""wisdom" to the test.

You are correct in stating the current economy is on a unsustainable path, but that by does not mean that one day it will just stop and become non existent. It will evolve and adapt as necessary. I take it your a little too chronologically advanced to be concerned about what comes next, but some of us will have to deal with the change.

Overconfidence can get you into some sticky situations for sure, but it's an affliction I've had for sometime and I have discovered that it's not so bad. I've learnt a lot and experienced even more. IMO this is one of the greater joys in life, because you never know until you try...

Maybe I'm missing your point about to the "doing and the paying", but I enjoy being as self sufficient as possible. It all leads back to having a grander understanding in the ways of the world. Even if it's just something as small as being able to recognize when you haven't got your monies worth when you paid someone to do something.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:06 | 4717683 Seer
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You clearly have all the answers.  And as you state, I'm "too chronologically advanced" (though I would wager I could stuff your ass into the ground faster than you could say that) to bother with fools.

"Maybe you can provide me with an example so that we can put this ""wisdom" to the test."

I worked for an international corporation.  We'd acquired several offices in Europe.  Folks started clamouring for "faxing" capabilities so that they could exchange documents.  That was their "solution."  Myself and my group didn't comply; we gave them "e-mail" with file attachment capabilities (at the time it wasn't very common).  This is an actual PERSONAL experience.  There are so many external examples that I wouldn't know where to start: ZHers like to point out how horrible solutions are that govt comes up with, so one might look through that treasuretrove (a favorite one is Obamacare [and I agree- the "solution" has NOTHING to do with providing "health care" as was the real populist demand]).

"Maybe I'm missing your point about to the "doing and the paying", but I enjoy being as self sufficient as possible. It all leads back to having a grander understanding in the ways of the world. Even if it's just something as small as being able to recognize when you haven't got your monies worth when you paid someone to do something."

So, "one with all the solutions," you're assuming to be younger than me and more well travelled?

"I enjoy being as self sufficient as possible"

Yeah, and some women enjoy being a little less pregnant.  If you have dependencies then you have dependencies.  I'll wager that there really are very few people on the planet that are TOTALLY self-sufficient: those that are you'll likely never see/run across (and most certainly wouldn't be here).

"Overconfidence can get you into some sticky situations for sure, but it's an affliction I've had for sometime and I have discovered that it's not so bad."

"Overconfidence can get you into some sticky situations for sure"

What sense, then, is it to face something unknown and add in extra stickiness with overconfidence?

Again, either you have a problem with logic or reading comprehension, not sure which...  I did NOT state that one should REFRAIN from doing something.  What I SAID was that approaching everyhing as though you are completely familiar with it (shades of "I have all the answers/I know it all") is NOT a good approach to takling an unfamiliar "problem."  In cases of EMERGENCY I can see just tossing oneself blindly, but if one spends more energy planning, understanding a situation beforehand, there would likely be less emergencies.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 20:03 | 4718236 PeeramidIdeologies
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I never claimed to have all the answers, but I do have a bundle of opinions, with a smattering of advice. Like this; violence will get you no where with people like me. No matter what they taught you in self defence for seniors!

Here's another opinion. Many around here like to attach negative connotations to every day lingo as if has given you some kind of personal affront. Relax, keep it in context. Just because I say solution doesn't mean I'm planning to instigate a holocost. And remember you entered into conversation on your own free will.

Now if your trying to create a augment against the act of solving problems, well that's just nonsense, and I won't waste any further effort. But if your looking to define the act of solving a problem then you would need to observe the process and following result. In your example your crew was able to produce a solution that effectively solved a problem. I wouldn't say this evidence supports your excerpt.

I was actually expecting you to use Obama care here and I'm glad you brought it up. This is a good example of the ruling class creating a "problem" to which they have already "discovered" a resolution. It's one of those brutal facts of the system that everyone is going to have to deal with... Until.... Lol no need to beat a dead horse I suppose....

Maybe it's just me but your ramblings are starting to get a little uncoordinated. Comparing working towards self sufficiency to pregnancy is really off base, but I'm sure you have spent some time working towards being self sufficient, and enjoyed it. Attempting to get pregnant on the other hand, will not be enjoyable for you.

I'll give you that, I did jump the gun on the OC statement, but you did over exaggerate my original statement of being comfortable in new situations. The point that I was trying to make is that with varying experience
comes a certain degree of confidence that allows one to keep their head through difficult situations. The mobile creatives will undoubtedly be well versed in this spectrum.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:29 | 4717122 JuliaS
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There are mobile creative. I work in the film industry. Lots of people in this business travel around. Most of LA crowd has no fixed address as far as I can tell. They buy houses to rent out and flip later - not to live in them. They aren't a new class and they can be correctly described as "mobile creatives". The people that this article mentions are an entirely different bunch. They're mobile out of desperation, not by choice - working homeless for the most part. They don't own property because they cannot afford it. They live simple lives because they cannot afford full lives. If they get used to nomadic existence - good for them.

It's the economists that should be weary of this new class, when building so-called pent-up demand projections. There is a new class alright - of people who are unable to buy things and that, like cattle, are forced to move around on daily basis in order to survive. To the "the network" is everything there is. Entertainment is cheap, goals are simple.

You can't fool those people into defending your nation state, as they carry no allegiance to any piece of land. They are less likely to conform and follow. They follow the path of least resistence. Call'em hippies, gypsies or anything you want - they are a thing, and in the coming years there will be more of that same thing happenning. If you want those people to participate, pay your taxes and support your elderly - you're gonna have to do running around of your own.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:51 | 4717390 Seer
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And you bring up a very salient point.  The real "creatives" won't be part of the System, so the System really cannot come in to the equation here unless one wants to note its diminishment by said "creatives."  It's why in a reply above I jumped all over the notion that "creatives" will carry "this economy" forward...

I know folks from all walks of life (and from various points on the globe).  Most folks here in the West/US are so far molded into the thinking of the System that they have no idea what it really means to "think outside the box."

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:16 | 4717496 cougar_w
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I will be very happy when The System falls apart.

After the dust has settled, and assuming I'm still alive, I've got about 50 different things I'd like to try out that under The System would have simply been killed at birth. Killed by permit processes, killed by taxation, killed by State-supported monopoly (yeah I'm looking at you PG&E), killed by OSHA requirements, killed by assholes with strategic investments in The System.

It won't be pretty. It won't be easy. But we need to try some new things and I'm willing to chance a few bad decades if by that we can buy ourselves some really excellent centuries.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:10 | 4717693 Seer
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cougar, I tend to not expect anything to be any particular way lest I encounter disappointment.  I suspect that the loss of The System is going to bring some tough times, and in this regard I don't cherish the notion.  I may speak of it going away, but this is based on logic rather than personal desire: I only really look to support logic and reason, figuring that if I take that side I'm likley on a better path.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:54 | 4717832 JuliaS
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When I was young I spent some time away from the city on my parents' plot of land. Even though the land was no free, to me it was. It was like a small independent country for a kid. What did I do there? I ran and maintained irrigation, with the help of my father I built a small house, thermally insulated it, made a masonry stove and ran pipes from it for local heating. I dug a trench and laid electrical cables and modernized the internals with some basic gadgets. No construction permits, no regulations. It felt wonderful! There was never enough time in the day to do all the things I wanted.

There are still many things I'd do, if I was allowed to roam free. Unfortunately, I'm an adult, with a job, tax obligations, contracts and barely enough time to sleep and do laundry.

I'm cautiously looking forward to the collapse. I'm hoping it'll bring the much desired freedom to people like me, even if at the expense of lost social stability and security. I think I can live with that.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 21:19 | 4718440 messystateofaffairs
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I know of people who camoflage themselves from the system. They look like they don't have money but they do. They pop in and out of the system, mostly on their own terms. They take measured risks to trade and to them legal means doing what you think is moral while not getting caught. Life always has risks, you have to embrace them. You going to wait on your slavers to give you permission to live? It is still possible to lower your dependency on the grid, and people are doing it and living well with low stress. I wonder though if the world is going to become some kind of violent economic wasteland and just how possible it will be to evade slavery, I always look at North Korea as a future role model for a successful NWO.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 16:34 | 4717566 My Days Are Get...
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We are not dependent on Government.

We are not dependent on Corporate.

We are not dependent on Network.

We are Rambo.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:12 | 4717700 kurt
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Yeah, I remember when a bum called himself

  "An Observer of the Contemporary Scene"



Sorry boys, pretending won't make it so.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 17:22 | 4717747 I Write Code
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As soon as you're born they make you feel small,
By giving you no time instead of it all,
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all,
A mobile creative is something to be,
A mobile creative is something to be.

They hurt you at home and they hit you at school,
They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool,
Till you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules,
A mobile creative is something to be,
A mobile creative is something to be.

When they've tortured and scared you for twenty odd years,
Then they expect you to pick a career,
When you can't really function you're so full of fear,
A mobile creative is something to be,
A mobile creative is something to be.

Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
And you think you're so clever and classless and free,
But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see,
A mobile creative is something to be,
A mobile creative is something to be.

Thu, 05/01/2014 - 18:11 | 4717867 pashley1411
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Not a worthwhile exercise.

In the 21st century, the only worthwhile exercise in class and collectivization is one's relationship to the state.

a) employed by/dependent on

b) pays the Danegeld to keep the state off your back

c) hides in the tall guess until the lions pass

and variations thereof.

"Mobile's" have an illusion of flexibility by reason of income and payment and tax deductions.   But its an illusion; they either work for the state, hide from the state, or pay the state off.

That's it.

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