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Nigel Farage's UKIP Takes Clear Lead In EU Election Polls

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Nigel Farage's UKIP has opened up a clear lead in the run up to next month’s elections for the European Parliament. According to ComRes, 38% of Britons certain to vote say that they would cast their ballot for the party, compared to 27% who would vote for Labour, 18% who would vote for the Conservatives and 8% who would vote Lib Dem. UKIP is damaging Conservative hopes as 67% of 2010 Tory voters are now saying they would vote for UKIP. However, it's not all rainbows and unicorns for the euro-skeptic party, as - somewhat expectedly - almost one third of Britons think that UKIP is a racist party; even as 48% believe UKIP has sensible policies.

As ComRes states:

European Voting Intention

  • UKIP: 38% (+8)
  • Labour: 27% (-3)
  • Conservatives: 18% (-4)
  • Liberal Democrats: 8% (NC)

But as ITV reports, there are some concerns...

Almost one third of Britons think that Ukip is a racist party, according to a new ITV News/ComRes poll.

 

Of the 2,052 British adults surveyed about their opinion of the UK Independence Party, 32% said they believed the party was racist. 40% disagreed with this statement and 29% said they did not know.

 

A third of the British public think UKIP are more honest than other parties

 

...

 

82% of likely UKIP voters at the European Parliamentary elections think Ukip is more honest than other political parties.

 

Britons are split about whether Ukip has sensible policies: 38% think not, but 38% think the party does.

 

Half of 2010 Conservatives (48%) think that Ukip has sensible policies.

It seems change is coming - as Farage himself noted recently...

 

"The whole European project is based on a falsehood... and it's a dangerous one.. because if you try to impose a new flag, a new anthem, a new president, a new army, a new police force; without first seeking the consent of the people you are creating the very nationalisms and resentment that the project was supposed to snuff out." Farage concludes, he is not against Europe but is "against this Europe," and this year's European elections will mark the turning point.

 

 

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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:10 | 4719306 Xibalba
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 time for a plane crash? 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:13 | 4719312 Haus-Targaryen
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Farage already survived one. 

Although I do think that the EU will dispose of Farage is one sense or another.  Its too late though, the damage has been done and Farage has given the continent talking points for the next 3 years.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4719322 Occident Mortal
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Yes he was in a plane crash the day of the last general election.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:17 | 4719328 SWRichmond
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Nigel Farage's UKIP Takes Clear Lead In EU Election Polls

I wonder if they use electronic voting machines?  Polls are one thing, but elections are quite another.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:22 | 4719332 Occident Mortal
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The British Establishment is losing control of British politics, more and more people are voting for alternative representatives. This is putting enormous pressue on incumbents to listen to their electorate, that's why the British parliament voted down the Syrian escalation. The public didn't want it, even though the establishment did.

 

Brits have realised that they don't need to get alternatives into power to change the narrative of those in power, just threaten/scare them and the incumbents will move towards your position.

 

Look at UKIP, the surge of UKIP has forced the government to offer a referendum on EU membership. UKIP don't need to get in power to get what they want.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:22 | 4719346 y3maxx
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...The American Nigel Farage could very well be African American Neurosurgeon, Dr. Ben Carson...In his speech last year, He wipes the smile off of President HalfrObama...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:25 | 4719352 y3maxx
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...Folks, Russia offered Ukraine $15 Billion plus higher salaries across the board, before the illegal, American/Nato led Coup d'état.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:15 | 4720274 123dobryden
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omg russian people want to work more and harder so that ukrainian folks could enjoy higher salaries accross the board...

 

all that thanks to former spy turned saint

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:23 | 4720312 0b1knob
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Nigel Farage for US President.   

Oh wait.   Farage can't be President since he's not a natural born US citizen like Obama.

Oh wait......

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 15:46 | 4721541 Cap Matifou
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Go, Nigel.

Your good pal Rumpy will be not amused.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:50 | 4722014 macholatte
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Almost one third of Britons think that UKIP is a racist party,

 

Could they define the term “racist”?  Were they asked to describe what they were asked about?

 

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.  In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...  

     "...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'

     "One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)

 

-       Saul Alynski

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:50 | 4722394 Unknown User
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Can we get one of those in US? Please...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:59 | 4720507 Traderone
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Nope, pen and paper for us. leaves a trail which can be rechecked in case a candidate disputes the result. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:53 | 4719838 A Nanny Moose
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He really shouldn't make toast while in the hot tub.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:37 | 4719409 Ghordius
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such a juvenile comment: "I do think that the EU will dispose of Farage is one sense or another"

I'd be delighted if Farage does not only win in the european elections but also in the later British ones, and take the UK out of the EU, for example

remember that it's the White House that is telling the UK to keep being "the gateway to the EU", and it's the US and the UK that are pushing that damn Trans Atlantic Trade Pact

sadly, the chances of UKIP winning any seat with the British electoral system are very, very slim

so it's the UK that is disposing of Farage... by having him ranting in Brussels instead of leading in Westminster

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:53 | 4719528 Haus-Targaryen
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So what happens when the UK leaves, and then does better than the continent?  Will you learn from their example, or just get MAF and play the "at least we care about the poor in Europe and not just ourselves" card that you played when they left the fixed peg?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:54 | 4720156 the tower
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To be fair, the EU is not holding the UK economy back. Economically it has been good for the UK to be in the EU. It saves an enormous amount in overhead and taxes, as the EU is the biggest market for the UK.

The UK has been blessed with the free movement of people, so far, and there are no signs that a rush from the poorer countries to claim benefits in the UK is going on.

Just as Switzerland, the UK managed to pull in skilled people, like builders and electricians, programmers and other IT people.

Something that would have taken the UK a GENERATION to establish if it wanted to use locals.

A UKIP vote is more of a protest vote against the current political establishment and the desire for a skapegoat (EU immigration).

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:19 | 4720292 123dobryden
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although i can confirm builders and warehouse operatives, not really sure about those IT people and programmers :)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:29 | 4720340 the tower
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London is full of them. If you are a programmer you can find a job in London (and periphery) within 2 weeks, and you even get to be picky. Several friends moved there, from Spain, Portugal and Greece.

Don't confuse the London economy with the UK, the UK is on its ass, London is still booming.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:31 | 4720358 the tower
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Just look at the payday loans, every third commercial on TV is for one of those, the other ones are for online bingo and cheaper and cheaper prices at the supermarket... That should give you an idea of how much the UK is on its ass... London is sucking the life out of the UK.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:01 | 4720189 the tower
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... and getting paid for it... he's no different than Wilders in Holland... he knows very well that you cannot change the system from the inside.. a cushy job at the EU parlement is waiting for him..

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:42 | 4719441 Ghordius
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"Farage has given the continent talking points for the next 3 years"

sadly, it's not true. he has given the UK lots of talking points, yes. but for continental ears, his speeches have always elements of pure demagogery that are very, very hard to take seriously

example: "because if you try to impose a new flag, a new anthem, a new president, a new army, a new police force"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:49 | 4719508 Haus-Targaryen
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I don't remember the flag, anthem, president, army or police force being part of the "integrated market" vote back in the 70s.  Do you?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:38 | 4720400 the tower
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I don't remember those either, but I do remember that they were all up for a vote. Did you vote for or against?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:13 | 4719663 Haus-Targaryen
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Shhhhhhh

He must discredit all those on here who hate the EU in order to get his paycheck.  I don't want him and his family to starve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jiaU0xbOKs

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:39 | 4720403 Ghordius
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then watch me how rabidly anti-EU I can become if this damn TTIP goes through. have fun with your Game of Thrones fantasies

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:23 | 4720310 Ghordius
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Euro Myth Nr. 1: the flag. Yes, the EU has a flag. No, flying that flag is subject to national law. See for example Danish national law about what flags you can fly, where and when on Danish territories

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:27 | 4720328 Ghordius
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Euro Myth Nr. 2: the anthem. Yes, the EU has an anthem. A nice one, btw. No, we don't use it, for sure not in the way Americans use theirs. btw is it a law that mandates that all football games start and end with the US anthem?

specifically, Farage objects against the use of the flag and the anthem at EU parliamentary sessions, btw. which is a bit silly for EU parliamentarians, but again, he is not speaking with them, he is catering to his electorate

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:30 | 4720352 Ghordius
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Euro Myth Nr. 3: the president. Yes, the EU has now a president of the Council. No, he does not have really any powers, and most european president have anyway not much power, take for example the German one. He is a kind of secretary to the Council (where most power really is)

a president like in the US? pleeeeease, pull the other one, it has bells on

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:34 | 4720378 Ghordius
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Euro Myth Nr. 4: the EU Military. Yes, there is one. No, it's more of a shell game. scratch it a bit, and you'll find... national forces

No EU nation is really giving their power over their national military away, and most of them are in NATO anyway, which is way less a top-down thing that many think

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:37 | 4720394 Ghordius
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Euro Myth Nr. 5: Europol. Yes, it exists. No, it's not comparable with the US FBI or anything similar. It coordinates only. No EU nation is going to give away their police power. Europol has to be invited by a national police force in order to even coordinate, and does not really operate as a common police force

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:43 | 4721282 trader1
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am i really the first person to upvote you?

what does this say about other ZH members?

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 07:51 | 4750240 Ghordius
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perhaps that they have no clue about the EU? mostly it's of course disinterest

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:18 | 4720287 the tower
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and the EU is happy about that, so they can talk and talk and talk.... you didn't expect any CHANGE to come from Farage's talking points, did you?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:14 | 4719315 GetZeeGold
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time for a plane crash?

 

One trip to Diego Garcia......coming right up!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:34 | 4720031 old naughty
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please specify which airline so sheeples can avoid.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4719320 lordbyroniv
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We need to clone Farage

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:06 | 4719903 Harrison
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Don't worry, some loony leftie with an illegal spork will do him in.

Best of luck reversing the tide, Nigel. And wear a spork-proof vest at all times.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:17 | 4720282 North Sea Cowboy
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Another principled man pissing in the wind.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:11 | 4719308 It is a bargin ...
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The slur campagin being run against him by the British media is nothing short of digusting, someone is very very scared

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:07 | 4719908 Harrison
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I hope they can de-fund the BBC after the election. I thought they weren't allowed to engage in partisan politics under their charter.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:34 | 4720027 Carpenter1
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This could do more damage to their plans than just about anything. Nigel in office with the backing of the people= game over

So, expect the attacks to become even moar ridiculous and if that doesn't seem to be working Nigel had best spend the last week of his campaign in a secret location surrounded by hundreds of ultra loyal, armed followers cause these psychopaths will try to suicide him, guaranteed.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:37 | 4720044 johngerard
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It's all encompassing. The three establishment parties have formed a specialist attack group dedicated to smearing UKIP as racist maniacs.

I've never seen an effort like it. But the more they smear Farage and UKIP, the higher their polling results.

They are terrified of UKIP, even though the election is meaningless from an EU point of view. They could fill the parliament entirely with UKIP MEPs and it would make no difference, as the parliament has zero power - repeat, ZERO POWER. The Commission can do what it wants, when it wants. End of story.

The real point of the election is how it will be perceived in the UK if UKIP run away with it - which it increasingly looks like it will do, although it will be tighter than the most recent polls suggest, I'd say.

Expect things to get even dirtier as we get closer to May 22nd.

 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:11 | 4719309 Seasmoke
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Time to start wearing that racist badge with pride. As its utter bullshit. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:12 | 4719658 PT
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:11 | 4719311 Occident Mortal
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oh

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4719318 GetZeeGold
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I know....I can't find the words either.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:14 | 4719316 Big Corked Boots
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What's British English for "dats raysis"?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:39 | 4719432 MillionDollarBoner_
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"I say old chap...that's a tad off colour, don't you think?"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:00 | 4720183 johngerard
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The "you're racist" bubble has begun deflating in the UK. Fewer and fewer people are buying that shit anymore. The only way is down.

In time, it will be left in the gutter like a used condom.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:21 | 4720305 Lord Wakefield
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Having White Skin

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:15 | 4719321 Doubleguns
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We need a Nigel in the US.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:23 | 4719347 Ribeye
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em, i really like Nigel, 

but hes nothing compared to Ron Paul, 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:54 | 4719851 pies_lancuchowy
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what about Trey Gowdy (R-SC) ?

Don't bash me, I'm just asking, looking for anyone to carry Ron Paul's torch

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:24 | 4720313 Overfed
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Farage is a much better speaker. I love Dr. Paul, but he tends to ramble.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:58 | 4719870 A Nanny Moose
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US no longer exists. I say good riddance, because there are no solutions to be found in the initiation of force.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:16 | 4719323 rsnoble
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I wonder what HermanVanSuckaDickRumplestiltskin thinks about all this?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:26 | 4719357 Billy Sol Estes
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Or Schultz, or Barroso, or Verhofstadt

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:16 | 4719325 buzzsaw99
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keep voting uk, things are bound to improve one of these days. lulz

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:26 | 4719330 Dr. Engali
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It's funny how no matter where you go that if you think differently than the Borg hive you are always labeled a racist.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:18 | 4719691 PT
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We need to make a list.

Nigel Farage
Cliven Bundy
Pauline Hanson

That's all I can remember and I wasn't really paying attention.
(I don't like putting CB and PH on the same list as NF, as they are not in the same league.  But they still managed to rattle the cage and get slapped with a "racist" sticker, so they made the list fair and square.) 

Any more? 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:19 | 4719335 Ribeye
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the racist charge is a total media construct, almost identical to the way the US media tried to portray Dr Paul as a racist, total nonsense, 

Ukip are the canary in the coalmine in Europe, 

DEATH TO THE SCUM EU.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:22 | 4719709 Mister Ponzi
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Or as a German blogger recently put it: "Is the UK the Baltic countries of the EUSSR?"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:19 | 4719337 Winston Churchill
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Dig up Enoch Powell and make him foreign minister.
Even dead , he would be better than vague Hague.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:01 | 4720186 DrunkenMonkey
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'Tis true that ultimatums to foreign powers said with a yorkshire accent sound somewhat ridiculous.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:27 | 4719361 Devotional
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Portugal's mainstream media has already labeled UKIP as "extreme right wing". 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:28 | 4719368 Tsar Pointless
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That's because it is.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:49 | 4719822 Itchy and Scratchy
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Portugal is spread & bend over begging for the ECB for its largesse!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:27 | 4719364 Tsar Pointless
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I read the party's web site. Nice ultra-nationalist B.S., as expected.

Then this:

• Develop shale gas to reduce energy bills and free us from dependence on foreign oil and gas - place the tax revenues into a British Sovereign Wealth Fund.

Hahahahaha! Shale drilling. Hahahahahaha!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:46 | 4719486 shovelhead
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How's little Mohammed doing?

Has he taken his first head yet?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:02 | 4719581 GetZeeGold
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You owe me a quarter cup of coffee and one computer monitor.

 

HA HA!!!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:27 | 4719367 youngman
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I hope Nigel wins..then he wil talk more..and I like to listen to him..he speaketh well..even the sheeple can understand him

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:28 | 4719370 fonzannoon
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Go Beppe Grillo!!!!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:29 | 4719376 giggler321
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>>32% said they believed the party was racist.

You'll probably find that all of the immigration into the UK since the early 1990's accounts for the 1/3 of the voting populous.  Anyone who enters any country is unlikely to support a regime change in this area.

Hey look what's the most popular bady name in London

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6194354/Mohammed-is-most-popula...

It's a funny old world we live in.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:13 | 4719659 DaddyO
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That means 68% don't, right?

DaddyO

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:32 | 4719384 shovelhead
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No doubt the Celts would be called racists as the Romans marched across the country.

There's a suspicion that Queen Boudicca was not a 'multiculturist'.

Very unenlightened, no?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:35 | 4719399 SheepDog-One
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UKIP be raycis yo.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:36 | 4719402 ccvampyre
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i live in the uk..   

 

but won't vote again, if i did i still wouldn't vote for farage,

unfortunatly he is inconsistant in the interest of gaining votes..  just like the rest.

 

i was hopeful, but the more you look into his policies you can see how he tries to pander to groups.

 

gay marriage and scottish independence being a great examples.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:48 | 4719504 GetZeeGold
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gay marriage and scottish independence being a great examples.

 

Yeah.....that's the whole freakin world there.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:08 | 4719910 ccvampyre
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'examples'

 

ie not the whole freakin world....   jeez.

 

he is inconsistent.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:50 | 4719513 DeliciousSteak
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The only thing Farage cares about is keeping the British financial empire going. Unfortunately for him his intended methods are a bit too nationalist for the globalists running the show.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:51 | 4719833 Itchy and Scratchy
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What do you think the EU is after?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:06 | 4720806 Rubicon
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London

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:37 | 4719421 Rip van Wrinkle
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The 'Waycist' jibe, the 'big got' jibe, the 'Nazi' jibe are all failing in the UK. Enough voters have decided it's time to ignore the entire facade of PC bullsh!t. Times are a changing here in the UK.....at last.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:38 | 4719426 homonohumanus
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Nigel Farage is a nice guy but he is being played too.

If him or other people from other countries with the same or close ideas get close to take power and gain a relevant position it would be the trigger for extreme bold move from the poweer that be.

 

Simply put it gives a legitimacy for the fake red/bleu team to make a "sacred alliance" and react to a democratic treat through emergency measures. Red/Blue put together still have the majority, while exceptional measures are taken, further buring any ressemblance in ours systems with a republic, the majority of the people will cheer them.

 

Sadly whereas I agree with him on a lot of front, I think he is a useful idiot. Aka his success would be  greater success for his ennemies than for his supporters. You do not change the system from inside, it is a lie. 

I'm not sure ytou can change it from outside either. Actually I don't think you can change thanks to the laborious nature of the masses...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:42 | 4719448 Overdrawn
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"almost one third of Britons think that UKIP is a racist party"

 

More than one third of 'Britons' are not spawned from  indiginous British people.  

You can apply for British citizenship on the back of cerial cartons these days.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:05 | 4719616 RadioactiveRant
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You can literally buy a UK vote, a Maltese passport can be obtained by investing EUR1.15m (of which you retain title to EUR500,000) in the island, and entitles the holder to vote in all UK elections, entitlement to travel and work anywhere in the EU AND, as an added bonus you can participate in the USA visa waiver programme - GREAT if you're Russian or Chinese.

New citizenship programme creates bond with Malta

 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:43 | 4719460 GFORCE
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The UK msm love a smear campaign on Nige.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:45 | 4719478 Spungo
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Nigel seems like a Ron Paul type of character. He's a useful guy who will say things people need to hear, but he'll never really get anywhere. People don't want freedom. Most people seem to want bullshit.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:52 | 4719515 RadioactiveRant
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Farage is bullshitting, he's a failed stockbroker, he doesn't care any more about the British people than the rest of the parasitic scum infesting our town halls and Parliament. He does, however, sound different which makes people think they have a choice, which is what they want from democracy.

Lib/Lab/Cons are the same shit with different coloured rosettes on.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:07 | 4719628 The Abstraction...
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I wrote to him asking for support/advice on my silver manipulation lawsuit, www.kingoftherepublic.com, and I did not get an answer. So I cannot bring myself to endorse him. Sorry Nigel.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:02 | 4719889 The Abstraction...
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Sorry if that seems a bit selfish, but I would have thought, that the issue of metal manipulation should be on the foremost agenda of any decent alternative politician. I can understand why you would mark that down, but the man needs to stand against as much of the corruption as he can, not just the easy bits.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:45 | 4719480 Stoploss
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Thank you Jesus.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:47 | 4719492 RadioactiveRant
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The mainstream British political establishment are running scared, instead of just conning the public into thinking they have a choice of policies to vote on while releasing identical manifestos in different branding they're now opening joining forces to attack him: Ukip condemned by cross-party group for running 'racist' campaign.

 


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:54 | 4719540 commoncourtesy
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It is obvious from the over the top media people are being recruited and paid to call UKIP racist.

Others who are also ‘paid-to-praise-the-EU’ try to dominate the argument when they are essentially earning tens of thousands of pounds a year to big up Brussels. Nick Clegg should not be participating in a debate on the right to national democracy seeing both he and his wife are subject to rules Governing their Brussels pension, containing a clause that does not permit them to criticise the European Union. .

Neil Kinnock receives an £83,000 per year EU pension, and Peter Mandelson pockets £31,000 a year from Brussels. Yet the two Lords were prominent figures both in the second chamber and across UK media arguing against the EU Referendum Bill, which if passed, proposes a referendum on UK membership in 2017.

“How can we, in a democratic society, allow this sort of thing to take place inside our National Parliament? What justification is there in giving those in receipt of conditional EU pensions any credence at all on the subject? They should all declare the conflict of interest and step far away from the debate if they want the general public to have any faith at all in UK politics. This is a debate of such national importance, attracting so much public attention, on a subject that could fundamentally change the way we are governed and yet it is being tarnished by self-serving and arrogant washed up politicians.”

It was relatively easy to arrange a referendum for Police Commissioners or Scottish Rights, why not an EU referendum?

Where is our democracy?

Nigel Farage and UKIP MEP's are essentially campaigning for the demise of their own jobs and pension pots which is admirable. All other parties who are delaying or against an EU referendum are in essence Turkeys do not want a vote for Christmas at all costs.

We owe it our next UK generation to get out of the whole EU, IMF, and Bankster mafia. Voting for any other party but UKIP will only change the Management of this obscene, current set-up.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:59 | 4719571 Ribeye
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lots of silly comments on tbis thread, 

Ukip are a confirmed anti EU party, and they are surging in the polls, 

if you think that is insignificant meaningless BS, well, i suggest you need your head examined, 

if Farage brings home anything close to that in three weeks time, it will send shockwaves accross Europe, 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:15 | 4719649 homonohumanus
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And TPTB won't let EU going down or it will be accordingly with their own agenda which is integration in something even greater than EU or US.

As it is sadly he is a useful idiot, it could allow an union between the Labor and the Tories... for greater good.

 

I'm not please by that matter of fact but it is like pen and paper role playing, try whatever you want but you won't outplayed the game Master /Dunjeon Master if he wants you to die.

 

On one side it is a success for free thinkers but it is a greater success for those you don't like. It allows them to take "extraordinary" measure as a reaction to a treat (even made out). Pretty much if you vote for that type of guy you are setting for yourself the equivalent of a false flag.

Majority still is on the red/blue side. It does not please me go figure.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:28 | 4719734 Itchy and Scratchy
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Are you well? Wanting to control & PROTECT your soverign borders and level of immigration is RACIST? How naive are you?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:37 | 4719764 homonohumanus
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I guess I'll feel better after a youporn cession helps me getting out thosee bad humors of the day.

 

But yes I'm well. I don't care much for what the MSM says. But what I or you think is irrelevant to the matter at hand: the majority still believe in the blue/red team. 

If he makes a serious score it will allow the red and blue to team up together and for the majority it will be a legitimate move.

 

It is unpleasing but you underestimate the resources of the system. See the sad matter of fact is that even if he would get a majority, it would simply take an attack on UK interest rates and a matching communicating campaign making him responsible.

Would sadly bury the UK further and serve as reppelent for anti EU ideas in others countries.

 

THey litterarily OWN the game :(

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:43 | 4719794 Itchy and Scratchy
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Red, Blue or Pink will 'own' NOTHING once the EU & IMF sinks their claws into the soft & tender Brit flesh!

'Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither & lose both.' - Benjamin Franklin

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:05 | 4719897 homonohumanus
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By EU and IMF you mean proxy for the City and one of the 2 main powers in this world: on one side the ones that owns the money and on the other the warlords?

Not that the City has not already plunder the country it is more about finishing the job by proxy now.

 

You missunderstand the nature of the voting system, we speak of representative systems, the voting system is one of the best system ever deviced by the highest class to control masses. 

That is what I meant by they own the game, they control the voting system who raises and who can't. They do through funding and control of the media and even rely on cruder means when it is required.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:17 | 4719945 Itchy and Scratchy
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Nigel in a landslide & we will see how tough the manipulators are! Seems like what they're doin' now ain't workin' so good?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:33 | 4720006 homonohumanus
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I answer you a lot don't take that as aggressive I just wish I could share your optimism on the matter at hand... but I can't.

 

They are setting stage for Russian actions that could great a critically/event in EU that could allows them to take exceptionnal measure. 

CFR said years ago they wanted a common currency for NATO by 2015.

The negociations with Canada are done wrt to a common NA/EU market are done, those with the US are on going. Mostly nobody speaks about it.

 

Indeed people are unhappy, but it still goes well enough (for TPTB), as even unhappy people disagree or are wrong about the primary reason behind the troubles they faces. They manage to wedge us even in discontentment lol.

 

Could you be right, clearly something is to happen, sadly it seems that those that the most prepared are the ones you dislike:

trade agreement, military agreement, reinforcement of non sovereign powers, greater interlocking of the banking systems, etc.

On the people side, well we have more discontentment and TPTB are not blind neither dumb as it is clear they have been prepparing the next stage for a (long) while.

 

Anyway don't turn into a pessimist as I did, it is depressing;)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:51 | 4720054 Itchy and Scratchy
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The New World Order dogma is not a new creation. Tried many times over the ages & at times when it was much easier to do. Failed every time! Brits are a tough crew!

Do not succumb to the geo-political media driven fear & hysteria mantra! It is their only real weapon!

Vote UKIP!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:42 | 4720084 Itchy and Scratchy
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Best news I've heard in 2014!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:01 | 4719582 Goggles Pisano
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Hmm, let's see if I have this straight........UKIP is leading in the polls, has sensible policies but the headline? "A Third of Brits Believe UKIP is a Racist Party". And almost one-third think the UKIP is a racist party and 27% would vote Labour and 8% would vote Liberal Democrat. I wonder who those 1/3rd are who think they are racist? I guess the UK and the US are not that much different.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:35 | 4720035 Loucleve
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that 1/3 would be all the pakis and somalis and jamaicans that have been "imported" into the MC paradise.  they see the writing on the wall, so naturally they scream racism.

TAKE IT BACK.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:04 | 4719608 Calculus99
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UKIP has the same sort of problem the Tea party has - it attracts all the real nutters who've fallen out of love with the incumbents.

True, the nutters aren't a large bunch, say 5%-10%, but they give the fuel necessary to the MSM to attack the party as a whole. This is why UKIP and the Tea Party are often described as having extremist views. Their views aren't extremist, it's just the views of a small minority.

The solution is to get rid of the nutters, but that's easier said than done as often they're very vocal and real political animals.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:07 | 4719626 Calculus99
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UKIP has the same sort of problem the Tea party has - it attracts all the real nutters who've fallen out of love with the incumbents.

True, the nutters aren't a large bunch, say 5%-10%, but they give the fuel necessary to the MSM to attack the party as a whole. This is why UKIP and the Tea Party are often described as having extremist views. Their views aren't extremist, it's just the views of a small minority.

The solution is to get rid of the nutters, but that's easier said than done as often they're very vocal and real political animals.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:30 | 4719744 Bazza McKenzie
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UKIP and the Tea Party are described as extemists because that is the only propaganda the media affiliated with the statist parties can throw at them.  The propaganda has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with the self-serving BS of the MSM.

Clearly their propaganda is working on you.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:16 | 4719674 smacker
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"38% of Britons certain to vote say that they would cast their ballot for the party, compared to 27% who would vote for Labour"

 

This highlights the schizophrenic and divided mind of Brits. Whereas UKIP are strongly against the EU, Red Ed's Marxist Labour Party is strongly for it (despite playing down their real views in public).

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:18 | 4719690 Itchy and Scratchy
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Nigel is da' man. The rest are pussies or pretenders!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:19 | 4719693 DrewJackson
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Maybe Nigel can buy the Clipper??

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:21 | 4719702 Ivan Nokabolokov
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If UKIP end up polling over 50% in the EU elections there won't be any need for a EU in/out referendum as the people will have already spoken. 12% to go.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:23 | 4719708 sondernauch
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Does UKIP actually did favor the indigenious peoples of Ireland, GB, and Europe? That would leave out most of the ruling "elite," so I can see the danger.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:29 | 4719741 lakecity55
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Paul=Farage

USA=UK

MSM=MSM

Fed=City

City>Fed

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:39 | 4719759 Mabussur
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Paul Sykes is financing UKIP.

What does that tell you ? It tells you Farage is a pawn in the great game. His role is to channel discontent.

Population control, baby.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:04 | 4719900 RadioactiveRant
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Farage/Sykes are just another branch of the establishment. He's far more interested in supporting his mates in the City than doing anything for the "alarm clock Briton/Mondeo man": Farage: This assault on the City shows you cannot reason with Europe

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:31 | 4720014 Loucleve
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Disinformation.

There is only one political party at present that says it wants to be out of the EU, and there is only one political party that would deliver it – and that is Ukip,” he said. “It is the only game in town. I am certainly not wasting my time, energy and money on any of the others.”

We are speaking in the drawing room of his beautiful Gothic-style home in the shadow of Fountains Abbey, near Ripon, set in a few hundred acres of prime North Yorkshire countryside. Sykes’s story is a classic of its kind: the son of a miner, he left school with no qualifications to become a tyre-fitter. He started dealing in car parts before branching out to sell second-hand buses and lorries to the Far East. In the early 1960s, when the Beatles were taking home £1,000 a week, he was earning three times as much and driving a Rolls-Royce.

He later invested in shopping centres, including the Meadowhall, near Sheffield, which sold for more than £1 billion, netting Sykes £280 million. In 2000, he created the Planet Online internet provider and, foreseeing the 2008 financial crisis, got out of commercial property before the crash. By 2010, he was ranked the 26th wealthiest person in Britain, worth about £650 million. Famously, he has said he will not leave his children any money, beyond helping them buy a house, so that they learn how to make their own way in life.

ANYTHING THAT STOPS THE TREND TOWARDS MORE GLOBALIZATION IS A GOOD THING.  unless you wanna live like a sheep in a neighborhood/country you dont recognize.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:54 | 4719849 Smegley Wanxalot
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Fuck yeah, Nigel ... destroy those EU-sucking cunts.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:03 | 4719865 Itchy and Scratchy
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This will wipe the arrogant smirk off the faces of the socialist/communist/totalitarian infected EU pigs for sure! I pray that Nigel can muster up the strength to run those paracites out of town & back into the rat holes they came from! Go UKIP!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:58 | 4719868 pies_lancuchowy
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It is just GREAT that UK is first to wake up , and shows the way for other EU-regime countries

But, unfortunately, I'm looking for something MAJOR to happen. THEY will do everything in order to hang on to their power.

I'm afraid either they will not let him win , or they will 'convince' him to change his views

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:01 | 4719885 Haager
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EU may be very lucky that neither French, Dutch, Spaniards nor Germans are able (usually) to vote UKIP.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:09 | 4719915 RadioactiveRant
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The French are turning towards their own Farage in Le Pen: Le Pen urges French to vote against EU's 'gravediggers' (Yahoo/Reuters)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:24 | 4719974 Itchy and Scratchy
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Right on!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:09 | 4719916 writingsonthewall
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38% of Britons certain to vote say that they would cast their ballot for the party

 

ZH goes 'mainstream' and tries to 'sned a message' rather than presenting the FACTS.

 

Turnout in Eu elections are about 1/3 of the voting public.

 

So from a sub-set of people (voters), 1/3 will turn up - and 38% of THOSE have said they will vote UKIP. That's not a lot of people.

 

For Americans - this is similar to the winner of x-factor having a seat in congress based on their 'massive popularity' and votes cast in the auditions.

 

I wish Zh would stop promoting UKIP as some form of 'revolutionary party' when they are backed by hedge funds in the city - who of course have no interest in the voters desires or freedoms of people - but there are always some sheep willing to vote for slaughter.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:18 | 4719948 Itchy and Scratchy
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Nigel Farage - a man whose time has come!

Put the commie freaks out of their misery big man!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:47 | 4720061 Kirk2NCC1701
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"It's the MONEY, stupid."

I'm not against the Euro, but I am against this Euro:  I'm all for a strong and independent ECB issuing a strong regional currency that is a Euro, but I'm against this ECB and its bastardized Euro, which is under the dominion of the Fed and has become a large tentacle of the NY Vampire Squid.  Goldmanites everywhere.

Were it not for the current ECB, the Fed would have virtually no buyers of USTs left, and the fiat Ponzi that is the USD would come crashing down.  Instead, the Fed and the ECB have effectively merged, by swapping Debt notes back and forth, and building the house of debt cards ever higher.  It's to the point where, if one drunkard falls, so does the other.  But the US is the bigger drunkard.

Clarity and perspective, folks.  Clarity and perspective.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:40 | 4720063 Smiley
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If he is projected to win I would predict hostilities in Ukraine go full tilt Hot-War just before election time.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:50 | 4720132 Itchy and Scratchy
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You can thank the Satanical 'New World Order' U.S. Asst Sec of State Victoria (FU E.U.) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan for the bloodshed! Sure wud be a nice touch to see her hangin' in the town square!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:01 | 4720192 vyeung
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people want change and they know that the other parties are just smoke and mirror parties. Farage better get more protection because the Cabal will feel threatened.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:05 | 4720206 Itchy and Scratchy
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West Ukraine vote for EU = vote for return to communism!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:19 | 4720604 Paracelsus
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Some years back I was living and working in Oz down under.They had a very similar maverick politician from Queensland named Pauline Hanson.The media in Oz belongs to two family dynasties: Rupert Murdochs press and Kerry Packers press.There are basically two political grouping in Australia and they did not want a third party coming out of nowheres "splitting the vote".The MSM and politicians did a hatchet job on her,total smear campaign that would have made Joseph Goebbels smile.

UKIP has touched a nerve somewhere,and their growing support is significant as a barometer for UK politics.If the long term benefits are cancelled out by huge social costs then Nigel is correct to warn his constituency about these issues.

He constantly refers to his fellow EU MP's as unelected parasites.

Perhaps Nigels detractors should keep this comparison in mind. 

(Also,any fellow who can roger a Latvian barmaid five times in one night gets my vote!)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:47 | 4722858 Aussiekiwi
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This is true, Pauline got dangerous to the two main parties and had to be removed Aussie style.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:44 | 4720703 DeficitAlchemist
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The Times and Evening Standard -- are going all out for muck throwing against Farage... for employing his wife.. don't we all if we have a Ltd company.. and tarring them as rascist.. the Fear to the Rothschild Binary Blairite or Tory elite for government is palpable.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 02:22 | 4723124 theprofromdover
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The tipping point in UK politics has happened. The voters want rid of the entrenched political corrupt pygmies, but like red/blue, they have only had limited choice up to now to successfully vote in independent candidates.

Most UK folks realise UKIP have slightly more lunatics than the main parties, but see them as a disruptive force that might break up the system.

The tipping point is, that the more obvious the attempts to discredit UKIP candidates in the media (mostly with racism allegations) the more the people distrust the main parties and swing behind UKIP.

Farage is the enemy of my enemy, so meantime he is my friend.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 07:47 | 4750236 the tower
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A real freedom-loving party: UKIP uses police to habe blogger remove legitimate tweet.

Police have asked a blogger to remove a tweet which fact-checked Ukip policies but did not break any laws after receiving a complaint from a Ukip councillor, prompting concern over attempts to stifle debate.

"The police explained that I hadn't broken any law – there was no charge to answer and it really wasn't a police matter.

"They asked me to 'take it down' but I said I couldn't do that as it had already been retweeted and appropriated, copied, many times and I no longer had any control of it (I had to explain to one of the officers what Twitter was and how it worked). They said that they couldn't force me to take it down anyway."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/12/police-ask-blogger-remove-legitimate-tweet-ukip

 

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