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The State Of The Deep State - The Monster In America's Closet

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Submitted by James Howard Kunstler via Peak Prosperity,

We’ve been hearing a lot about the so-called Deep State lately. What to make of this shadowy monster? Some observers link it to the paranoid fantasy called the New World Order, a staple of political talk radio (and a hobgoblin I don’t believe in). In popular movies such as the Jason Bourne epics and Mission Impossible, the Deep State launches hyper-complex schemes that work flawlessly and never fail. That is exactly why they have such high entertainment appeal. Viewers are thrilled by the precision, by the conceit of seeming infallibility. The Deep State definitely exists; it just doesn’t work the way it is depicted in the movies. 

I like to say that I’m allergic to conspiracy theories because human beings are generally too inept to carry out schemes at the grand scale, as well as being poor secret-keepers. Insider knowledge is almost always swapped around, even in secretive organizations, often recklessly so, because doling it out confers status, tactical advantage, and sometimes money for the doler-outer. But the Deep State isn’t a secret. It operates in plain sight.


First, of course, is the Pentagon leviathan plus all of its suppliers, enablers, and lackeys — the beast that President Eisenhower warned his fellow citizens to beware of in his farewell address, calling it “the military-industrial complex.” It’s worse than ever, especially having engaged in two major fiascos on Asian soil the past decade, pointless escapades that cost the lives of 8,000 soldiers in action, many more maimed for life, and in suicides of servicemen returning home in despair to a spavined economy and the manifold indignities of a cruel and incompetent veterans’ bureaucracy completely unable to care for their needs. Iraq and Afghanistan proved the futility of America’s neurotic mission to try to control everything and every place in the world. In fact, the US military could not control the only two things that mattered in those faraway lands: the terrain and the behavior of the population. What else is there in a military campaign?

This did not stop President Obama from almost repeating the fiasco in Syria in 2013. Only some reality-testing by Vladimir Putin put the schnitz on that operation. For the moment, Putin has also juked Obama and his Secretary of State Kerry from further shenanigans in Ukraine, but the US looks like a sloppy drunk in a barroom at last call spoiling for a fight. We’d better hope we don’t find it. It’s one thing to fight a band of ragged Taliban in the Helmand highlands; it’s another thing to poke a country (Russia) with a thousand nukes targeting everything from Bangor to Bellingham.


Then there are the multiple vampire squids of Wall Street (shorthand for all of finance) engaged in funneling as much wealth out of the disintegrating middle class as possible, creaming off gargantuan transaction fees, premiums, and spreads from every transaction in the entire universe (especially in their carry-trade with the Federal Reserve), and buying off elected officials wholesale, by the hundredweight, to ensure that their swindling operations go unimpeded. Wall Street’s hired servelings now write the latest laws for financial regulation. It is nothing but racketeering on the grandest scale, plain and simple, and it is sponsored wholeheartedly by the Deep State. The Supreme Court has lent a hand in this by defining corporations as persons entitled to express political fellowship via unlimited cash contributions to election campaigns. Wall Street is assisted in turn by the thoroughly corrupt two major political parties. The fabled “revolving door” that shuffles Wall Street executives in and out of government now spins so fast that it is more like a turbine than a door. The degeneracy of Wall Street is covered sufficiently elsewhere in my writings to leave it at that for the purposes of this essay.


Present worries over the Deep State are focused on its massive security apparatus, made up of a combination of venerable old institutions such as the CIA and the Defense Intelligence services with some newer ones such as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), The National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the Transportation Safety Agency (TSA), Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), the good ol' IRS, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), and God knows how many out-of-sight “security” offices in the dark precincts of seemingly benign agencies like the National Parks Service and the Bureau of Weights and Measures. On top of all that, add the newly militarized local police all across this land with their camo-clad SWAT teams, bomb-proof Hummers, grenade-launchers, surveillance drones, 20-ton Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles (MRAPs), military-grade helicopters, and in the case of one Arizona sheriff’s department, a pre-owned US Army tank.

The sheer multiplication of “security” officialdom ought to give a sentient citizen a case of the vapors. The work of these outfits is supposedly coordinated by the new umbrella entity, the National Security Agency (NSA), but that’s probably too slippery a description for the organized chaos it represents. The NSA can only pretend to manage all these posses of tech-drunk cowboys. The NSA is a pretense wrapped in a wish shrouded in techno-narcissism.

Grafted onto this armature of old and new bureaucracies is a matrix of private contractors who do much of the actual dirty work and heavy lifting for the official agencies. These private contractors are hugely overpaid (by taxpayers) and are subject to little oversight outside the agencies who hire them — who, in turn, have a keen interest in concealing any misbehavior perpetrated by their private contractors. Outside of that ring of techies, hit men, and errand boys is an asteroid belt of domestic spying infrastructure based in the internet, featuring companies that, willingly or not, funnel information about the myriad activities of individual citizens to the government. These include online retailers, Google and other search engines, banks, credit card companies, health care orgs, phone companies, universities, etc. Then, of course, there is the gigantic corps of lobbyists, public relations spinners, media pimps, corporate consultants, legislative staffers, and other enablers and fixers of Deep State operations. These highly-paid parasites are the ones largely responsible for Washington becoming the third-richest ranked metro area in the nation.

This ever-growing network has been constructed right out in the open with a long lead-up after World War Two, and then an exponential ramp-up following the attacks of 9/11/01 and the paranoia entailed by it. It is surely a remarkable thing that there have been no terror acts on the grand scale in America since 9/11. The 2013 Boston marathon “pressure cooker” bombs that killed 3 people and maimed over 250 others was a way smaller op than 9/11 and relatively amateurish, and the Deep State did not prevent the Chechen Tsarnaev brothers from pulling it off despite the fact that the elder brother, Tamerlan, had been on an FBI watch list for two years prior to the bombing. The Fort Hood massacre of 2009 (13 fatalities) was perpetrated by, of all things, an army psychiatrist Major Nidal Malik Hasan. You’d think the army would have been onto this fellow… he being right under its nose… but what better illustration of basic institutional failure?

There has been surprisingly little else. Perhaps that is due to the diligent work of these bureaucracies. But I find it hard to believe that they had much to do with the absence of terror acts against the countless “soft targets” across the nation. For instance, a small squad of half a dozen jihadists might have entered any one of a thousand big regional shopping malls across America with enough ordnance in a duffle bag to kill a few hundred people. It hasn’t happened, but can anyone say it’s because the National Security apparatus prevented it? I’ve been in many malls the past thirteen years and none of them had any security screening at their doors whatsoever. Anyone could stroll in with an Uzi tucked under his London Fog and blast away. Yet, the known attempted dastardly deeds that were prevented by the Deep State — the 2010 Times Square car bomber, the airplane underwear bomber — you can count on the fingers of one hand.  Of course, the airplane shoe bomber wasn’t stopped until the very moment he tried (and failed) to light his Nikes. Lucky he was a klutz.

In any case, the monumental new combined security apparatus has been given carte blanche to elaborate itself, to grow ever more branches and buds so that it is now a kind of creeping, suffocating, parasitical vine entombing the edifice of the Republic behind a scrim of toxic administrative overgrowth. The remarkable thing all along has been the lack of protest from just about any quarter of the American polity, either the citizens themselves or their elected representatives. Now and again an elderly airline passenger will complain about being groped by an ardent TSA officer, but on the whole the broad public does not seem to care about having its privacy stripped away, even after Edward Snowden burst on the scene with his revelations of what should have been perfectly obvious to anyone who thought about it for half a minute — namely, that government agents could not possibly resist the temptation to harvest those bounteous crops of data accumulating in all the humming server farms all over the country.

It was really only a few weeks ago when one politician did offer a few yelps of objection. That would be Senator Diane Feinstein who, as chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, was investigating torture carried out by the CIA following 9/11 and in the wars engendered by it. The CIA response to the committee’s requests for information was a 6.2 million-page data-dump of un-collated, un-indexed memos and cables — obviously designed to confound, impede, and delay any discovery of misconduct. On a number of occasions both the CIA and White House staff lied to the committee about the handling of documents, which, of course, distracted attention from the substance of what was in the documents: evidence of programmatic torture. It would be fair to say that CIA personnel jerked the committee around in every way possible to avoid providing coherent answers to straightforward questions and requests. CIA Director John Brennan repeatedly stonewalled Senator Feinstein’s letters, simply refusing to reply. As the tussle heated up, the CIA hacked the Senate committee staff’s computers. Then they went a step further and referred senate committee staffers to the Department of Justice for criminal prosecution in mishandling secret documents. The CIA’s general counsel who made the referral was, in fact, a lawyer in the CIA’s counter-terrorism unit when the alleged tortures took place  — meaning, he had approved them — and his name appeared 1,600 times in the Senate committee’s report.

Senator Feinstein, formerly a dogged supporter of the CIA and its redundant cousin agencies, finally lost it. She held a press conference and pretty much denounced the whole wicked business as an attempt to intimidate the committee and obstruct constitutional oversight of the CIA’s activities.

Who Is Watching The Watchmen?

The affair raises very troubling questions, chiefly: has this vast “security” apparatus become by stealth a fourth branch of the United States Government?  Does it think itself to be more equal than the other branches? Does its existence undermine the rule of law in this nation? And what do we ordinary citizens of this republic do about it? (Assuming we are still a republic.) We’ll touch on these matters in Part 2: How To Oppose The Deep State

Click here to access Part 2 of this report (free executive summary, enrollment required for full access).



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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:14 | 4722288 Cattender
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the NWO is real.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:18 | 4722303 john39
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You have to willfully blind to miss that fact.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:25 | 4722321 observer007
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MERS deadly disease: First victim in US


Health officials have confirmed the first case in the United States of the deadly Middle East Respiratory Syndrome , a virulent and relatively new condition first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012. The unnamed healthcare worker arrived in Chicago about a…


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:27 | 4722333 Battleaxe
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If you are reading this then you are a TERRORIST.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:56 | 4722412 negative rates
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Okay, trust me then when i say I didn't read it. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:44 | 4722517 mvsjcl
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The Deep State without NWO doesn't make sense. There's a Deep State everywhere that there is a Rothschild-controlled central bank. I posit that they are inextricably entwined.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:48 | 4722623 Davalicious
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"Some observers link it to the paranoid fantasy called the New World Order...a hobgoblin I don’t believe in... because human beings are generally too inept to carry out schemes at the grand scale, as well as being poor secret-keepers."

Jews are the exception. Their ethnic networking is a racial feature. Genetic studies show a high similarity (70%) between Jews all over the planet. Look at the way they dominate us, in our own countries, in finance, politics, the media. There is even a Jew in charge of the US Global Nuclear Strike Force.

From his wiki:

James Howard Kunstler was born in New York City to Jewish parents



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:14 | 4722909 james.connolly
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KUNSTLER has a website I dare say any of you go to that website,

If you so much as MENTION: TRIBE, or AIPAC, ... or ZION you will be deleted, IP BANNED, in ONE NANO-SECOND.

KUNSTLER is not your friend FOLKS, he is an ENEMY 'CONTRACTOR'.


KUNSTLERS job is to sell the peak oil narrative, ... that the reason for ameriKKK'as decline is peak-oil, and to take everybody away from the real reason ameriKKKa died, AIPAC, aka zionism.



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:34 | 4722933 Riprake
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Sounds like a good policy to me. Goose-stepping Hitler rimjobbers like you belong in padded cells, not on the internet.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:21 | 4723000 james.connolly
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James Kunstler, welcome to ZH.

Cass Sunstein, has a condo waiting for you in Tel-Aviv with your name on it.


Sat, 05/03/2014 - 03:26 | 4723162 New Ordnance
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J.H. Kunstler: Theater Major at SUNY Brockport, father in the diamond trade.

He was a regular for years at The Oil Drum before it closed for lack of content after the Baaken cranked up.

Nothing ad hominem intended but he always struck me as a strange and acerbic little word-smith.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 02:51 | 4723142 Serenity Now
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Kunstler's job is to sell central planning, period.  

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:10 | 4722445 The Profit Prophet
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Everyone who frequents this site has a file, and critical commentors on the State are likely on a watch list.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:46 | 4722522 DeadFred
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The secret to success is the use of sardonic humor on a sizable fraction of your posts, then they won't know if you're serious or not. 61.8% is the proper ratio. Of course this is just make believe since we're all going to the camps anyway (except the trolls who will be going to a place much lower than that).

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:19 | 4722998 prains
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In the camps they'll need blokes with baton and dog to keep us in line, this job will be filled by trolls like mister kitty

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:47 | 4722524 mvsjcl
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"MERS deadly disease: First victim in US"


I thought MERS claimed millions of victims during the housing bubble?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:02 | 4722734 X_mloclaM
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or think Rockefeller lied in his own book on his families intent ...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:24 | 4722473 Zadok
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That I dont believe in...

Almost stopped there, skimmed the rest, willfully stupid. Sorry if it offends, it's true!

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 11:16 | 4723539 what's that smell
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i the great and powerful kunstler with my mighty power of observation have declared all conpiracies void because the wealthy and the powerful are stupid.

there. fixed.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:30 | 4722827 Buck Johnson
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It sure is, and it's getting worse.



Sat, 05/03/2014 - 07:26 | 4723276 Fred C Dobbs
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And have conquered America.  Kunstler should be following and not trying to lead.  

The Tylers should know this.   

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 10:32 | 4723449 escargot
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As soon as I read the words "paranoid fantasy", I stopped reading any further.

No really, it would be foolish to think that powerful interests would conspire to rule the world.  Why would they do that?  Nobody has ever wanted to rule the world!  That's just a crazy paranoid fantasy!




Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:25 | 4724695 Monty Burns
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As soon as I read the words "paranoid fantasy", I stopped reading any further.


Me too.  Kunstler is one of those media pimps he allegedly calls out.  'Nothing to see here, move  along now'

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 08:32 | 4725538 Cheduba
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I agree - guys like Kunstler get me because they act like all of life's events were random, with language like this:

"Of course, the airplane shoe bomber wasn’t stopped until the very moment he tried (and failed) to light his Nikes. Lucky he was a klutz."

I guess it was just an accident that this guy was guided onto a plane in order to terrify Americans and justify the TSA's existence.


"Has this vast 'security' apparatus become by stealth a fourth branch of the United States Government?"

Uh oh!  Sounds like a conspiracy!  But there can't be any masterminds behind the organization of the security apparatus he described.  Everything probably just happened to fall into place on its own.

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 12:18 | 4725925 TruthHunter
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"Any conspiracy involving two or more people includes a publicist!"

Robert Anton Wilson

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:16 | 4722295 LetThemEatRand
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"has this vast 'security' apparatus become by stealth a fourth branch of the United States Government?  Does it think itself to be more equal than the other branches?"

The vast security apparatus is the government.  The rest is theater.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:29 | 4722336 McMolotov
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The Deep State is the reason voting changes nothing.  Red Team, Blue Team — it doesn't matter because they're simply cosmetic. The Deep State is the foundation, the girders, the walls of the prison. Politics is merely decoration, paint on the bars.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:43 | 4722375 LetThemEatRand
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I'm starting to think that Ron Paul was just the equivalent of a visit from Johnny Cash.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:37 | 4722504 yrad
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:49 | 4722532 Jack Burton
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The Deep State is so powerful that there is no need for it to try and hide, after all, if you can't fight city hall, imagine what the deep state is like to fight. Whenever taxpayers are forced to fund a Government Deep State apparatus to the tune of around 1.25 trillion dollars a year, the combined military and security budgets, then that buys a hell of a lot of real power. If you look at what Israel is so proud of calling "Facts on the Ground", you can see that the Deep State is the Lawn Mower and our asses are grass. The power and the wealth has gone to their heads, they have come to view themselves as all powerful and untouchable. The present nightmare in Ukraine, was planned and funded by America's Deep State, in the belief that their power is unlimited.

To the Deep State above, I want to add two other major Deep State players, one is a major tool, "The Corporate Media" the other is a major power player and Deep State Regular "Israel and AIPAC". The Deep State has armed Israel with many hundreds of nuclear weapons and built them s delivery systems, so that Israel alone is a planet killer on it's own, with every major city in Euroasia and the middle east targeted 24/7. Without the American Deep State, a tiny nation of a few million would not be one of earth's most powerful nuclear weapons powers, and ready and capable of ending life on over half the earth in a single afternoon.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:46 | 4722688 Crawdaddy
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Check my past comments and you will see who I think is behind the throne. I do not think it is the Jews. There is another country, comprised of 835 people according to their website, that I think is the true puppet master behind the NWO. If you don't believe me, ask yourself why it is not uncommon to find politicians that point a finger at AIPAC but ZERO who will diss the little country with 835 citizens?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:07 | 4722894 Davalicious
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Are you talking about the Vatican city? The population is about 920.Jews have been infiltrating the Catholic Church since its inception. Have a look at this article in the Jewish Forward on Jews who changed the church (got them to dump warnings about Jews). Sure, this guy converted but supported Israel his entire life. Right..

You forgot the smallest country which is arguably SMOM - population 3.

There is no hiding the fact that Jews control our countries and farm us. John Kerry (Jewish) instructs Victoria Nuland (Jewish) to install a Jewish head of state in Ukraine who promptly installs three Jewish oligarchs as regional Governors. Jewish people are a tiny fraction of the population. What are the odds? Even the public are starting to notice that whever our freedoms are taken away some Berg or Stein is always behind it. If we don't remove these people from power they will destroy us.





Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:00 | 4722975 Crawdaddy
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Yes the vatican is what I am talking about. Why do you work so hard to make Jews the problem? Just follow the money. You will find the Jews are minor league. A few are special monkeys on strings in the grand scheme of things.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 01:22 | 4723061 Davalicious
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Jews are the problem. No heavy lifting needed. Jews advocate open borders for white nations, limitations on freedom of speech to accomidate the invaders, gun control. In Israel black Jews are given contraception without their knowledge, African refugees are jailed, then deported, it is illegal for non-Jews to marry Jews.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:29 | 4724703 Monty Burns
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"it is not uncommon to find politicians that point a finger at AIPAC"


Yeah, happens all the time.  Off the top of my head I can straight away  think of........not a single one. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:57 | 4722722 LetThemEatRand
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"Without the American Deep State, a tiny nation of a few million would not be one of earth's most powerful nuclear weapons powers, and ready and capable of ending life on over half the earth in a single afternoon."

For her pleasure.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:17 | 4722616 easypoint
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I hear that train a comin'…

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:27 | 4722638 Crawdaddy
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Or a visit from Bubba Hotep

"If Priscilla knew I was alive would we have to fuck or would we just have to talk abut it?"


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:04 | 4722745 Tao 4 the Show
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The "Deep State" is simply a Doppelgänger serving to distract from his original and darker twin.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:14 | 4722455 Payne
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Big problem is they have control but no intelligence.  They will control our economy into the morgue.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:00 | 4722569 jaxville
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"I like to say that I’m allergic to conspiracy theories because human beings are generally too inept to carry out schemes at the grand scale, as well as being poor secret-keepers."


  Hmmm...Where to begin? Kunstler spends a great deal describing symptoms while completely ignoring the illness. The current government excesses are merely a reflection of the direction society is being conditioned into. Academia sets direction, banking finances it and the media sells it to the public. There is a common denominator within those three groups which has always worked for it's own interests and excluded others not in their group. That group is even over represented in the government that ultimately applies the violence to force that direction where needed.

  There is a reason the public is not too concerned about living in a decent society. Freedom, peace, sound money, limited government and all the other constructs that result in a decent society are totally contrary to the interests of that group.

  Who are they, that "group". Put on your thinking cap and figure it out but I will leave you with a hint...Most are not even American citizens.

  Somehow I don't ever see Kunstler going there.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:52 | 4722964 tulip_permabull
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Kunstler is either a Zionist hack or is a very interesting case study in how the conscious mind (of the writer) does not recognize how it is directed by the unconscious mind. I am yet to decide which of the two it is. Case in point is his (of course mostly well written and engaging) novel "World Made by Hand".

SPOILER ALERT -- If you have not read this book, I am about to give away key plot points.

As in most novels, this book has two faces, one is the supeficial story line and the other is the ideological burden. In this case it is the burden of its sado-masochistic, Zionist supremacist fantasies. Let me explain.

The story takes place around a small town in NE USA, post some not clearly identified Armgeddon involving possibly nuclear weapons but certainly Peak Oil. The chief protagonist is "Robert", a fifty-ish childless widower and a man of no particular power in the community. Before Aramgeddon he was a paper-pusher but now he is the town Carpenter (the insinuation is clear enough).

Robert's best friend (in a way) is the local protestant cleric, a weak man of weak faith who struggles even to go through the motions of belief. Robert is screwing this cleric's wife, something to which the cleric is apparently compliant. (Takeawy: Robert is virile, more virile than the cuckold cleric).

As the novel begins, a new force arrives in town (I forget what Kunstler called it...hmm, let's just call it NJ, "New Jerusalem). This force is a communiity of strong, forceful, and armed evangelical Christians, with plenty of members who are former soldiers back fom what the novel calls "The Holy Land". These evengelicals are led by a clever, iron-steel pastor. They set up just outside the town. Initially they appear to be a threat to the status quo in the town.

The final important ideological feature of the book is the existence on another side of this town of a community of white trash (of course) types who make their existence by scavenging (Palestinian-like) on the old trash heaps. These low-lifes are presented as a constant threat to the town.   

Like any good middle-brow novel, the book is full of pacily-presented incidents but the sketch of main characters and storylines provides enough background for an understanding of the zionist supremacist fantasy themes. Now I skip quickly through the main action.

* Friend of Robert, a returned soldier  is killed by trailer trash. Leaves behind pretty/buxom widow.
* Robert continues to screw cleric's wife.
* Robert becomes new mayor of town
* Robert bonds with armed evangelicals. They attack and defeat trailer trash.

The key to identifying this book as a Zionist fantasy is found about 3/4 into the book where, in a bizarre and entirel out-of-place scene, the wife of the leader of the evangelicals is revealed for the first time. She is depicted as an enormously fat woman who does nothing but reside abed while consumely an endless stream of cream cakes. I am not joking.

It seems that this creature (she must be depicted as a creature as she is not sexually available to Robert/Kunstler) is blessed with psychic powers.

This is how, 3/4 of the way through the novel, and a propos of absolutely nothing story-related, she announces to Robert that she has divined that he is Jewish! He concedes this is so.

As i have said, this is the keystone information for the entire book. All that was formerly random events can now be seen as part of a coherent ideological tapestry as it explains

> the presentation of Robert (why not a Jewish name?) as Carpenter (i.e., Saviour of the community and its only viable leader)

> the dichotomous presentation of Christian religions as either weak cuckolds or as usefuls militants to be turned agains the enemeies of Jerusalem) but in either case their existence is interpreted not on their own terms but ONLY in terms of their functionality for the Jew

>Robert's remarkable virility relative the non-existent or disfunctional sexuality of every other male in the book, typically with the wives of Christians (the well-known Jewish fantasy of every christyian woman a shiksa), and ultimately where Kunstler Robert does the beautiful wife of the fallen soldier the great favor of access to his heroic bed.

But I leave it there. As I suggested in the beginning, Kunstler can at first seem like a funny, mixed up case, however, (tho I agree with him on Peak Oil/Peak Debt) his fundamental ideological role seems very consistently to be to act as an agent of the Frankfurt School, putting into action what I call its "Walls of Jericho" strategy, a childish but effective strategy of incessant wailing and complaint and blame-shifting intended to make the conscious/adult mind give in to its bullying demands.

In that capacity, it seems that Kunstler's role is the same as that of the MSM and Hollywood, to take the battle to the Id of white Christian (male) family/culture and at every opportunity to delegitimize it, demoralize it, marginalize it and BLAME it. You can see this everywhere. It has been the dominant media/political culture for decades now. That is always the ideological purpose of his writing, and is present in everything he writes. It is his one consistent theme despite the fact that it is presented to us superficially wrapped in the narrative of Peak Oil.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 21:04 | 4724890 fiatmasochist
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                   WOW....impressive analysis...and you write really well, too!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:16 | 4722296 TeamDepends
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Deep State knows your deepest, darkest desires.  And fondles them.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:21 | 4722311 davidalan1
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deep state = inept state, plus printing press voila'

creditor nation to debtor nation in one or two generations. just wow.

we are sooo effing doomed

Come soon lord

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:22 | 4722313 q99x2
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This guy still believes in the existence of a United States Government.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:48 | 4722526 DeadFred
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:25 | 4722326 Oldwood
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Are the locust plagues of crops a deep state organized conspiracy or do the insects simply share a common agenda?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:28 | 4722335 thamnosma
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Kunstler voted for Obama twice.  Why go further?   Geez, he doesn't believe in the NWO.  Maybe he missed a few speeches by old Bush and his pal Kissinger.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:58 | 4722415 Ignatius
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Kuntsler's recurring 'argument' against a larger conspiracy -- say, like 9/11 -- is his own incredulity.

Incredulity is not an argument.

Evidence makes arguments.

To your point, the 'NWO' isn't coming... it's here. 

That said, I never use "NWO" when speaking of these topics as the hyperbole distracts from what can actually be pieced together with some careful reading and dilligent research.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:50 | 4722704 harposox
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Well said, Ignatius. As much as I generally enjoy his writing, Kunstler is obsessed with this "incompetence" meme, which is utter nonsense. The NSA, for instance, has created the means to eavesdrop on every digital communication on the planet... sounds like there are some frighteningly competent people running THAT show.

Given what we now know of the NSA's capabilities, pulling off a simple act of industrial sabotage like 9/11 would have been chlld's play. And the old "conspirators can't keep a secret" idea completely misses the point. 9/11 was a brutal, naked exercise of power. Broadcasting this message to the rest of the world – particularly to foreign leaders and intelligence services, many of whom clearly understood the real game afoot – was part of the point.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:41 | 4724726 Monty Burns
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Kunstler is NOT cionfused, insane or obsessed with this "incompetence" meme.  He knows exactly what he's doing and why.  This lies primarily in maintaining the Frankfurt School's agenda while the  "incompetence" meme is used to redirect attention away from how his tribe has systematically taken over all major western institutions.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:44 | 4722850 james.connolly
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Kunstler is INSANE,

Doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results.

Kunstler voted for Bath-House over&over,...

But IMHO KUNSTLER will be telling his flock to VOTE HILLARY-2016, when the times comes, because at the end of the day KUNSTLER is the manchurian candidate hard wired for AIPAC DEMOCRAT 'liberal' FECES.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:30 | 4722337 Yen Cross
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  Is it just me or does the "Capital Dome"  look like a " Jack-O-lantern"?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:31 | 4722343 Schmuck Raker
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Reposting, seems more fitting on this thread.

I highly recommend this article from Harvard National Security Journal:

"National Security and Double Government" - Michael J. Glennon

National security policy in the United States has remained largely constant
from the Bush Administration to the Obama Administration. This continuity
can be explained by the “double government” theory of 19th-century
scholar of the English Constitution Walter Bagehot. As applied to the
United States, Bagehot’s theory suggests that U.S. national security policy
is defined by the network of executive officials who manage the
departments and agencies responsible for protecting U.S. national security
and who, responding to structural incentives embedded in the U.S. political
system, operate largely removed from public view and from constitutional
constraints. The public believes that the constitutionally-established
institutions control national security policy, but that view is mistaken.
Judicial review is negligible; congressional oversight is dysfunctional; and
presidential control is nominal. Absent a more informed and engaged
electorate, little possibility exists for restoring accountability in the
formulation and execution of national security policy.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:12 | 4722598 illyia
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Hey. That is some article. Thanks.

This is why I read the comments.... okay, skim the comments...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:52 | 4722707 harposox
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Spot on. See also "shadow government" and the "Continuity of Government" executive order that was issued after 9/11 and is still in effect.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:53 | 4722965 thamnosma
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I would add that this double government goes beyond national security to most aspects of the federal state.  The bureaucracy is so large and entrenched that no change in political leadership really can steer the ship meaningfully in a different direction.  The political leadership can tweak an agency here or there, a program here or there or use the agencies to attack members of the opposite party, but the essence of the machine runs on its own.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:29 | 4723008 prains
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The national security apparatus operates in the same context as the financial oligarchs, they in combination are our real masters and need to ALL be eliminated without prejudice

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 03:55 | 4723174 TheSecondLaw
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Nail on the head.  Presidents come and go, whereas the managers of these institutions continue regardless of who happens to be sitting in the Oval Office.

It's like:  

"Who's president at the moment?"

"I dunno. Who gives a shit?"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:34 | 4722349 Oldwood
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When people share a common agenda, they do not require a complicated organization to advance their goals. This has always been the strength in the radical muslim movement. they share a common agenda and approach to achieving success. We have been indoctrinating people for decades in our public schools and colleges for this very purpose. They don't need dark, smoke filled rooms with top secret protections. They are doing it in front of us. They will lie to us claiming they are not and when caught, simply shrug and say.... so? Fundamentally changing America. Some will be pleased and for the

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:17 | 4722613 Crawdaddy
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Nonsense. The muzzies are pikers compared to the luciferians.

The Islamic connection

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:22 | 4722626 john39
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radical islam was created by the deep state...  true islam (like any religion that purports to love the One God, the Creator), opposes the NWO... opposes usury (a favorite weapon of the NWO)...   and for this reason, muslims are detested by the NWO minions... 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:38 | 4722673 Crawdaddy
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john39 - please watch that vid when you get a chance and let me know your thoughts...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:11 | 4722769 Oldwood
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I really don't give a shit about muslims. Only making the point of the radical "whateverthefucktheywanttocallthemselves" have an agenda that requires no leadership or infrastructure/organization to carry out their agenda. Sorry if I kicked your "religion of peace" hornet's nest.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:40 | 4722367 Schmuck Raker
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:43 | 4722377 mrpxsytin
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Move to western Australia. We are the size of western europe and only have a bit over 2 million people. Our raw resources per capita are the highest in the world. Stop talking and start walking. See you soon!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:55 | 4722407 GooseShtepping Moron
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I might take you up on that if I thought I could get a residency permit. Or should I just slip in on a tourist visa and try to find work in the opal mines? Not sarc. I'm certainly interested in hearing more about this.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:53 | 4722544 AUD
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You forgot to mention that 3/4 of WA is desert, so you might as well be living on the moon. Sure, the SW is nice, and the NW if you like tropical heat, but then you are competing with everyone else for the space.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:11 | 4722594 Crawdaddy
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Can you own a gun there? Or do you have to throw it into the govt shredder?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:03 | 4722982 thamnosma
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I think they've also bought into the Al-Gore global warming bullshit with lots of carbon credits.  Seems like another socialist/corporatist place these days.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:54 | 4722966 thamnosma
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Aren't you guys pretty much a colony of China now?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:43 | 4722378 Bemused Observer
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Conspiracy theories are a great comfort to people under attack. Especially when the 'enemy' is so seemingly huge and unbeatable. It makes people feel better to think that the whole thing is so diabolical, so well-planned by experts, that they can't possibly be expected to DO anything about it, it's just too big.

But it always turns out that the 'enemy' is just as stupid and inept as we are. Blessed with better luck perhaps, but hardly the unbeatable scourge we imagined. Acknowledging that of course requires us to admit we we allowed these morons to get the better of us in the first place. The conspiracy theory becomes a comforting refuge.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:06 | 4722431 free_lunch
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I see the NWO have asigned their higher skilled trolls to ZH, they finally concluded  that the regular MSM troll-team was no match for the real Zerohedgers.

But i am afraid you"re still to obvious. 


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:55 | 4722551 Jack Burton
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I too have noted the arrival of professional State Department and Corporate trolls on ZH. These tend to be professional trolls operating as part of contract PR firms that offer to turn internet and comments section discussions to the Government and Corporate agenda. We have now gotten a heavy dose of the paid trolls, they are so transparent that you can almost see them reading of their PR and State Department talkning points memo of the day.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:20 | 4722621 james.connolly
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The funny thing JACK is that professional trolls write very well. There english is always perfect.

Most mortals who just banter on the internet, or BB's of the past, or CB radio long ago, talked shit with bad grammar and all.

The other thing is most BOT's these days are SOFTWARE, go play with, if you would like to learn about bot's.

My opinion is that most  trolls work in INDIA call centers for a few dollars a day, they're all excellent in english, and know ameriKKKa better than most ameriKKKan's.

Telling on ZH is that INDIA is rarely ever bashed.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:26 | 4722815 thamnosma
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So anyone on ZH posting literate comments is a troll?  Thanks for the laugh.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:41 | 4722846 james.connolly
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Jack was talking about PROFESSIONAL TROLLS, the kind who major in english, and write well. The profesional troll, the kind working in DC making over $100k a year.

Then there are stupid fucking adolescent trolls /snide, /sarc, /stupid, and yes ZH has its share,

Then there are Cass Sunsteins ASSHOLES that work in INDIA that just want to make good people give up and quit asking questions, these kind of trolls drive good people NUTS.

Then there are the conspiracy theory trolls that talk shit about Grey's ruling the world, and that US-MIL has secret alien tech,... these are BULLSHIT trolls.

Then there are the BOT's SOFTWARE that goes to a site, and parrots what you say, ... they too are designed to make people nut's.


But in generality

if you see someone WRITE VERY-VERY WELL, you have to ask yourself, why is this person here on a FORUM for idiots? This person writes well enough to be spokesperson for bathhouse, ... why is he here?

In summary here on ZH, I think TROLL to good person ratio is 10 to 1.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:57 | 4722973 thamnosma
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C'mon, that's an extreme ratio.  No doubt there are troll types here, but for the most part I enjoy the diversity of comments.  I imagine there are mid-level government slimebags who toss shit here though.  Plenty of nasty people inhabiting that world.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 10:09 | 4723417 Battleaxe
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I thnk what James is trying to tell us, in his unbroken english, is that he is a troll.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 07:41 | 4723236 trader1
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what about trolls who do it for free and for fun in order to shape an opinion on the reader?


post edit:

who says you can't volunteer and do something special for our humanity at no profit?


and to the serial junker who likes to downvote, why don't you offer an alternate door of perception?

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 00:54 | 4725264 FreedomGuy
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Add to that the idea that anyone who disagrees or posts a contrary opinion is actually some sort of operative for the conspiracy. To believe that is to make yourself the very thing you purport to hate.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:37 | 4722669 kurt
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Furthermore, I'd say they happily share WB7's images, laughing, sharing, possibly ordering the full prints. They're using OUR money so they don't give a shit. They must feel like celebrities.

What it must be to be such creepy fuckin' turds!

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:52 | 4724742 Monty Burns
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The Israelis actually have a school for them (hasbaras), believe it or not.  Much of their work is also  taken up with keeping wiki (cough) honest.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:01 | 4722977 thamnosma
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I don't think that post was from a troll.  He makes a good point that investigation into cabals and conspiracies shouldn't be an excuse for apathy, which is what permits such socipaths to gain power over us.  I do disagree with him that "conspiracy theories" are just a crutch rather than an integral part of the actions of the governing class.  Almost by definition, secret policy decisions are conspiracies about which we, the unwashed masses, only learn about years after an event if at all.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:09 | 4722592 Crawdaddy
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Bemused in a sort of douchest way, as it turns out.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:46 | 4722379 tony bonn
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mr kunt - you are an incredibly duplicitous kunt who has probably been sent by cass sunstein to cognitively infiltrate us. if conspiracies - large or small - are too difficult to attempt or achieve, then we should remove all conspiracy laws from federal and state books.

conspiracies of epic proportions have succeeded despite your fucktarded lies, the most collossal of which include the murder of jfk, rfk, martin luther king jr, and so many more - all the byproducts of the deep state.

bush crime syndicate capo george bush sr and adolf hitler promised a new world order; david rockefeller believes fervently in it. you are a profound liar.

you make an excellent kunt. now go fuck yourself.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:49 | 4722387 weburke
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is "profound" appropriate?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:49 | 4722959 Riprake
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Only "profoundly retarded" which all of you 9/11 troofer fags are.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:54 | 4722408 walküre
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Author is trying to give credibility to the official propaganda with reference to 9/11 and Boston Marathon.

Therefore acknowledging Deep State and attempting to downgrade the abilities of said rogue authority.

Read no further.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:53 | 4724747 Monty Burns
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Nailed it.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:44 | 4722411 socalbeach
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Kunstler doesn't believe in conspiracy theories because people are inept, but he believes in the conspiracy theory that 19 Muslim flunkies and a Saudi caveman overcame the U.S. military on 9-11.  Got it.


"I like to say that I’m allergic to conspiracy theories because human beings are generally too inept to carry out schemes at the grand scale, as well as being poor secret-keepers..."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:15 | 4722607 james.connolly
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While the rest of us use words like ZIO-NEO-CON,
or ZIONISM to discuss the PTB, KUNSTLERS prefer's meaningless code-words like "DEEP STATE".


One reason of course is that KUNSTLER see's him self as voice of reason in the ALTERNATIVE MEDIA FOREST
for AIPAC. Kunstlers is a lot of things, but his
TRIBAL loyalty is unmatched in the world of DIS-INFO.

KUNSTLER is rather late the 'DEEP STATE' has been
PRIVATIZED and sold to private CONTRACTORS, there names are INMARSAT (Satellite) and SERCO GROUP (tagging humans)
, both are UK companys.

So today we can honestly say that the USA powerless to even over-see the 'Deep State' as H.W. Bush setup all the company's running the USA when he was CIA director back in the early 1980's.


Lastly, I'm one of the few that do believe 19 teenage boyz hijacked the 911 planes, with boxcutters, and I believe the conspiracy mythology is promoted by AIPAC OPPOSITION
to convince the hairlips that such a thing is not possible, as if 19 Saudi boy's could do such a thing, imagine what 19 ameriKKKan boy's could do?


Follow SERCO-HONEYWELL, Follow INMARSAT and Follow H.W.BUSH and team CHENEY (HALIBURTON). Most of the DEEP-STATE is now being ran from the UK. Serco-Group is most interesting, they want to put a KL-02 ( freescale chip ) into the body of every citizen in Europe, and track them with INMARSAT satellites, and later the chip is to be put in every world citizen. SERCO stole the MH-370 to get this technology.

Google "Serco Group Tagging"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:35 | 4722640 socalbeach
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Rob Balsamo:  What did you think about 9/11 after you saw it?

John Lear:  Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. ... No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon.  No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. ... And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center.  And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time.  Now, I'd have trouble doing it the first time. 

Rob Balsamo:  Yeah, same here.

John Lear:  Maybe if I had a couple tries to line up a few building, I could have done it.  But certainly not the first time and certainly not at 500 or 600 miles an hour.

Rob Balsamo:  Yeah, as a matter of fact, one of our members, he was a 737 Check Airman.  He was in the sim at the time on September 11 and right after it happened they tried to duplicate it in the simulator and they said they couldn't do it.  They were trying to hit the Towers and they couldn't do it. ...

John Lear:  Yeah, it would be an amazing feat of airmanship...


John Lear – Retired commercial airline pilot with over 19,000+ total hours flown in over 100 different types of planes for 10 different airlines in 60 different countries around the world.  Flew for over 40 years.  Holds every certificate ever offered by the FAA and has 23 different FAA type ratings.  Held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966.  He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial.  Flight experience includes Boeing 707 and 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-8, Lockheed L-1011 and many others.  Son of Bill Lear, founder of Lear Jet Corp.

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 09:23 | 4725599 Cheduba
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I have read that it was likely the planes were remotely controlled and there wasn't anyone aboard.  With the perspective from that experienced pilot, that would also make sense to me that the route would have to be planned well in advance.

What gets me is that I'm sure the technology existed even in 2001 to detect the instant the planes diverted from their original course, so alerts should have been raised well ahead of time.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:34 | 4722655 actionjacksonbrownie
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Please explain how the "19 teenage boyz" convinced a television broadcasting company to announce the collapse of building 7...


20 minutes before it actually fell.


<full stop>

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:35 | 4722805 james.connolly
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911/MH-370 I Said I believe that 19 boys hijacked the airplanes, ... I never suggested they did it on their own, no doubt in my mind that ISRAEL/SAUDI/USA NEO-ZIO-CON was behind the financing of the 19 boys. I'm just talking about twin-towers, ...

the other stuff is bullshit, because its all talk, as we never actually saw the plane hit the pentagon live, nor the crash in PA

. I'm of the the opinion, that the plane tanks were shot, and the

plane crashed in PA for lack of fuel, you'll notice from post photo's there is NO burning, no black, It would have been easy for the air-force to hit the tanks with non-incindiary rounds, then the plane would crash when it ran out of fuel. Building 7,

I don't care nor know shit.

Pentagon, we don't know shit, as that is/was a controlled area.

All I know is that the twin towers were hit by planes, and I saw it with my own eyes live.

>>> I'm a pilot, so I have lots of hours on SIM, and REAL, and I'll tell you this, that flying a 747 on SIM, compared to a small plane is like flying a bus. I don't see any problem hitting a building that's wider than a runway.


Let's get back to MH-370 that is more topical, I'm very concerned about the NWO plans that SERCO-GROUP has to put a KL-02 into every human being on the planet to be tracked by INMARSAT satellites,

If we don't blow this thing PUBLIC, then we be fucked.

SERCO GROUP(UK-LTD) run's prisons in Austrailia, they have Austrailia by the balls. The Companys including INMARSAT are all spawn of HW-BUSH, the same BUSH family that brought HITLER to power. Now the PUG's want BUSH to be president again.

Freescale was going to send the KL-02 technology to CHINA, and the ZIO-NEO-CON's stole the plane, to get the FREESCALE engineers.

SERCO GROUP has already implanted CHIPS in many people in the UK, and now they want to do ALL of EUROPE and the USA.

In Summary they want to shove a SMART-PHONE up your ass that's always ON, and always talking to MOM(NSA).

If we don't talk about this, its going to happen. SKYNET is HERE.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 23:47 | 4722954 Riprake
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Yep, it's official: not only are you a foaming-at-the-mouth goose-stepping Hitler rimjobber, you're a fat drooling retard too. When at last the government checks stop coming and your EBT stops working and your government-subsidized caretakers abandon you, you'll end up starving to death in a pile of your own bodily wastes.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 00:05 | 4722984 thamnosma
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Damn, I don't want to get on your bad side....

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 07:12 | 4723265 IndianaJohn
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riprake, -- such a jewish ring to it.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 10:34 | 4723455 thamnosma
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Sounds Norse to me

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 00:57 | 4725271 FreedomGuy
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One of the dumbest posts I have ever read. You know, you can convince idiots of anything particularly when they want to be convinced.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 19:58 | 4724752 Monty Burns
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Be careful James or you'll join Francis Sawyer, Rafferty and a few more Enemies Of The People in Thought Prison.  Beware the third rail.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:59 | 4722420 joego1
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Maybe the Simpsons really are in charge of the world.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:41 | 4722512 dexter_morgan
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:22 | 4722471 loregnum
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Conspiracy theories are just for kooks and don't exist. The NSA spying on everyone is just some crazy conpsiracy theory. Oh wait...

This author is a moron. Anyone who brings up the Sept 11th drama and believes in the official story basically has zero credibility in my book since the official story defies the laws of physics not to mention simple logic and common sense. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:31 | 4722829 thamnosma
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Same here.  The only theory of 9/11 I know for sure is pure bullshit is the one fed us by the government and mass media.   The rest remains conjecture.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 20:22 | 4722472 Yen Cross
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    Drunken Stupors are "over rated". 

    I hedged aud/jpy against

cable over the w/e.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:04 | 4722576 shovelhead
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Different players have different goals.

Some want resources, some want financial control, some want political control, some merely want new markets while others want continual instability.

All want profits or power.

When their interests align they will cooperate together and when they conflict the knives come out and they will stab each other in the back to advance their agenda.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:28 | 4722635 kurt
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Perfect. Nice Read



You perfectly describe multiple conspiracies. Perhaps if you washed off the taint placed on the word recently, you'd agree. These, AND MANY MORE, are conspriacy. Get on the team, Bubba, are you afraid they're going to off you? Shit or get off the pot. A conspiracy is an agreement with an element of secrecy, sort of like a corporate plan, or a plan to innundate the people with lies on TV.

I like your writing.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 21:32 | 4722649 dexter_morgan
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I too believe the official story on 9/11 and the Boston marathon.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:14 | 4722777 Oldwood
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The force is strong with you

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:11 | 4723692 messymerry
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The farce is strong with you  FTFY  ;-D

Dear Google, ordering me to turn on background data in order to use Play Store is an insult.  Fuck you very much.  Sincerely, MM 

Tyler, can we have some sigs pleeze,,, ;-)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:25 | 4722808 NemoDeNovo
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+100 for the Ricky Avatar.

"I todyaso Bubbles, I dont wanna be a person to say I toadyaso, but I toadyaso" 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 22:28 | 4722821 dexter_morgan
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After I refuculate the carbonators tonight, I plan on smokin some space weed on Juniper.....

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 03:11 | 4723155 Serenity Now
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The only thing I got out of this Kunstler article was sheer amazement that he left out his vile hatred for the South.


Sat, 05/03/2014 - 06:50 | 4723250 IndianaJohn
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A clever mix of balderdash and kool-aid. Thanks, Clusterfuck Kunstler but no thanks.

Bob Moriaty (321 Gold) called Kunstler out years ago;

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 07:02 | 4723254 Jack4952
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Anyone with even a high school knowledge of PHYSICS should understand that the near free-fall collapses ot WTC towers 1, 2 and 7 were IMPOSSIBLE. The steel struture beneath points of the plane impacts (for WTC 1 nd 2) would have DECELERATED and COMPLETELY STOPPED after severl stories simply because there was insufficient potential kinetic energy within the above structure. Explosives placed within the steel structure BELOW the impact points are the SOLE explanation. As for WTC Building 7, the collapse of ANY floors due to fire was totally impossible, as was its near free-fall rate of collapse. This fact was evident to me the first time I saw the collapses.

BTW: One need NOT even consider that military-grade nano-thermite (available ONLY to the U.S. military) was found in ALL of the dust samples from near the collapse sites. Plus, that NO plane wreckage was found at the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crask sites CONFIRMS that NO planes hit those sites. And contrary to the official claims, the planes' wheels and engines (made from titanium-alloy steel) simply can NOT "vaporize". Plus, if the fusilage of the plane caused the 20 foot diameter hole in the Pentagon wall, WHERE are to 2 holes that the engines would have created?

Anyone who believes the government's official fairy-tale is an IDIOT.



Sat, 05/03/2014 - 09:12 | 4723363 Jano
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Jack : insufficient potential kinetic energy

what is this?

otherwise I fully agree with you.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 09:12 | 4723364 Jano
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Jack : insufficient potential kinetic energy

what is this?

otherwise I fully agree with you.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 09:37 | 4723393 22winmag
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Who will guard the guards who guard the guards?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:08 | 4723427 messymerry
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@  22winmag:  Gort

@ AdvancingTime:  Yeah, and it's turtles all the way down... ;-)

Dear Google, ordering me to turn on background data in order to use Play Store is an insult.  Fuck you very much.  Sincerely, MM 

Tyler, can we have some sigs pleeze,,, ;-)



Sat, 05/03/2014 - 10:25 | 4723431 AdvancingTime
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The guards that guard them! Was this a trick question?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 11:19 | 4723450 AdvancingTime
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The "black budget" last year was a massive 52 billion dollars. This is the money used in "secret" spy operations, and it is enough to send shivers down the back of those that have read about the totalitarian society of Oceania described in George Orwell's novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

In Orwell's novel, all citizens of Oceania are monitored by cameras and are fed fabricated news stories by the government. Throw into the mix some corruption and a bit of crony capitalism and things get ugly. More on this subject in the article below.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 11:43 | 4723609 W.M. Worry
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"The "black budget" last year was a massive 52 billion dollars."

That's just the "known" and the "known unknown" Black Budget. What about the "unknown" Black Budget?

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 10:33 | 4723453 SMC
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The "deep state" is doing a fine job of self-destruction.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 13:13 | 4723931 Lynn Trainor
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You are so right!  The papacy is behind all sorts of America's problems, especially the rapid fading of our liberties.  Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson understood the dangers the Vatican posed.  Our modern leaders are deceived, consulting with the Vatican weekly and it is to our detriment.  It is leading to a union of church and state on many levels, the demise of our religous liberties and eventually to the attempted genocide of a tiny minority who refuses to surrender liberty of conscience, choosing rather to obey God than men. 

All one has to do is look at papal history.  Millions upon millions were slaughtered during the Dark Ages for their non-conformity to papal dogma.  What American leaders, modern protestantism in their blind ecumenical fervor, do not understand is that the character of the papacy is unchanged.  Read Vatican inisder Malichi Martin, or better yet, read the last eight chapters of "The Great Controversy."

"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country — the United States — are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars in Europe." - General Marquis De Layfayette

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 20:15 | 4724787 Monty Burns
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I note you cite not a scintilla of evidence.  Do have any?

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 01:17 | 4725287 FreedomGuy
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Okay, I am going to write the contrarian post, albeit a bit late. I actually agree with most of the article. I find the deep conspiracy stuff to be a waste of time. I am not into the big invisible conspiracies from any group you want to name. I do believe in conspiracies of interests in the simple sense that farmers will try to get subsidies for as long as government cares to hand them out. I also believe that banks and financial houses will tap into money, public or private anyway they can. If the government helps them, they will do it. I believe welfare recipients will stay on the dole as long as they get to sleep late and avoid the challenges of a real job and vote leftist every once in awhile.

Apart from that the part that I agree with is in fact that the whole damned problem is right in front of your/our faces. You don't really have to worry about the man behind the curtain so much, even if he is there.

The security-permission-centrally planned state is right smack in our faces and we watch it advance every year. The Beast is the government power that grows and intrudes into our lives at every level. Name anything in America or any part of the "civilized" world you can do without government permission. You cannot drive, buy, sell, start a business, run a lemonade stand, protest, cut hair, or even cross the street...leave your seatbelt off, spank your kid in public, or catch a fish without the permission of the omniscient omnipresent government. Each year they add ten thousand pages of new rules. Just trying to figure out what the government take of your wealth is requires 72.000 pages of tax codes...just for the Feds.

Through the wonders of the Fed and the regulatory state the entire economy is run from fake interest rates to fake labor rates. It is less important how good Apple's new iPhone 6 is than listening to the mere inflection of Janet Yellen's voice. She can crash an entire world economy.

I think you get my general point. My answer is so simple that almost no one outside of libertarians and true anarchists gets it. Disempower the State, the government, the regulators, the central planners, the security state. It will not matter what you think about the Jews, Zionists, Illumanti, NWO, John Birch society or anyone else. If they exist as posited they cannot execute their evil genius plans without state power. It is not Walmart that is raising your property taxes, setting speed traps and cameras, or listening to your phone with the NSA. Walmart does not force you to register your car or get a passport. It is the government that loves you and protects you the way a beef rancher watches our for his livestock...and future ribeyes.

However, my guess is as long as the government promises to give away other peoples stuff and protect Charleston from invasion by Al Qaeda we, collectively will keep tolerating the unimpeded growth of government, its rules and its tentacles until it strangles us. It will happen right in front of us and the groundwork is laid...but that is another post.

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 12:03 | 4725876 acrabbe
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Looking at this map, I wonder which of the remaining Ukraine forces are likely to defect or turn on the "pro-western ukraine coup" forces? I see 1st Spetsnaz and 8th Spetsnaz in blue. We all know Spetsnaz is Russian special forces. Are these "blue" spetsnaz guys really just pro-western ukrain coup Alpha agents and not really Spetsnaz? Interesting...

Sun, 05/04/2014 - 20:20 | 4727010 yepyep
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"the paranoid fantasy called the New World Order"


This is not a paranoid fantasy, anyone who cant see this agenda is not paying attention and misleading writing like this only perpetuates its progress.

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