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Ukraine's "Anti-Terrorist" Operation Turns Deadly In Odessa - Live Feed

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The earlier Ukraine "anti-terrorist" operation in Solvyansk has resulted in the death of at least 2 servicemen and now tensions are roiling in Odessa as the Ukraine government tries to live up to the IMF's demands or "fight or no money". Violent clashes have broken out at a pro-Ukraine rally in Odessa and at least one person is dead. As the live feed below shows, things are getting out of control fast. Ukraine's acting president adds:


Ukrainian authorities have also banned Russian air companies from making flights to the eastern Ukrainian cities; and, perhaps ironically to some, Russia has called for an emergency UN meeting to discuss Ukraine's actions.


The initial operation started in Solvyansk...



Then they moved to Odessa:


"There are at least 10 injured, have shrapnel wounds, there is a traumatic injury from a weapon. At the moment, both sides are building barricades in different areas of the city center, some of the streets has captured one side, some - other "

According to local media, the site of the collision are fifteen hundred aggressive young people, many of whom are armed. Gathered chanting: "Glory to Ukraine!", "Death to the enemies", "Moskal knives." In the course went firecrackers, smoke grenades, batons. Fighting used stones from the dismantled bridge, there were "Molotov cocktails". People continue to arrive.

With Molotov Cocktails flying...

And mass brawls:


Live Feed:

Live streaming video by Ustream


And in case you werew wondering where the anti-terror operation will do next.. here is a threat assessment map of the south and east...


Russia has called for an emergency UN meeting:



As Ukraine bans Russian flights:

Russia's Federal Air Transport Agency stated on Friday that Ukranian aviation authorities have unilaterally banned Russian air companies from making flights to the eastern Ukrainian cities of Donetsk and Kharkiv starting from today, Russian news agency Itar-Tass reports.


Russia's claimed that this ban was unprecedented violantion of international air traffic agreements, but said Moscow would not respond with similar measures


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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:39 | 4720059 pods
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This is like Bumfights write large!


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:40 | 4720067 Haus-Targaryen
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In other news,

The EU still sucks.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:50 | 4720129 Arius
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where is Odessa?

can someone please give us the MSM line ... tired of this ZH same view ....

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:03 | 4720172 Haus-Targaryen
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MSM Media's Take on the Protests in Odessa;

Freedom hating terrorists threw hand grenades, bricks, and Molotov Cocktails at members of the Environmental & Green-Friendly "Richt Sector" organization today, as Right Sector protested for sustainable energy, Green Jobs, and universal health care for all.  Unfortunantly in the protests one member of the peace-loving "Right Sector" died after his bottle of Vodka exploded after it was hit with a rock thrown by the freedom-hating terrorist thugs.  In Ukraine, it is common among the moderate protestors to light bottles of vodka on fire in order to show solidary with the European Union and the IMF.  Our thoughts are with the deceased and their family, as well as to the rest of freedom fighters in Ukraine fighting the imperalist expansionism of the dictator Vladmir Putin and the Russian Federation.

MSNBC addendum;

Its rumored, although unconfirmed, that members of the Tea-Party and the domestic terrorist organization "the Libertarian movement" were behind the terrorists actions in Ukraine.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:06 | 4720214 NotApplicable
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Well played. The only thing missing is the descriptor of "self-determination/democracy" in regards to the Right Sector.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:08 | 4720227 Manthong
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Looks like an IMF “gang initiation”.  

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:07 | 4720540 Pure Evil
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From the second video it appears as if the people are upset because they'd just been Cyprus'ed and were unable to withdraw any money from the ATM machine.

Once again the oligarchs are using police forces to protect their Bahkomat (or is it laundromat) from the lowly serfs wishing to withdraw their meager life savings.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:09 | 4720552 svayambhu108
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Suka Bleah Kurwa!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:39 | 4720681 eatthebanksters
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So for a pomise of $17B that they will never be required to pay the deflated western economies will start WWlll...UFB!!!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:11 | 4720247 Tom_333
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You forgot to include gay and non-white ethnic communities taking to the street to protest repression...(there is a small minority of tartar heritage - that will have to do for painting the proper full picture)

I wanna see a joint team effort to get this story right , in time for the newscast!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:14 | 4720263 Tom_333
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Sorry - I forgot the repressing forces are made up of crackers and home schoolers and the gay/lesbian/ethnic freedom fighters are clamoring for a strong state to push the right agendas. Ok - that should just about sum it up. No get going. And keep it simple. You know how the anchors are without simple talking points...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:55 | 4720477 Atomizer
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Our OWS crew shitting on police cars have moved to Ukraine

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:13 | 4720257 sushi
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RT is reporting the following:

09:03 GMT:

English-speaking foreigners are participating in the “special operation” being carried out by the Ukrainian Army in the eastern city of Slavyansk, the head of the city’s self-defense force has told Russian news agency Ria Novosti.


“Self-defense troops using walkie-talkies have picked up English speech,” he told Ria, claiming this was “direct evidence of the participation of foreign citizens in the punitive operation being carried out in Slavyansk.”


Wonder where they obtained access to English speaking conscripts?

Wonder how a country in which an elite light infantry battalion, the 25th Airborne, was disbanded for its failure to fire on the democratic resistance?

Wonder is there is any connection between the putschists use of English speakers and the approval of the first tranche of the IMF loan: "Hello, Academi. Yes we have the money now to pay you."

Wonder is there is any connection to the fact that the conidiotns of the IMF loan included the requirement to attack the democratic resistance in Eastern Ukraine?


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:18 | 4720290 McMolotov
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With any luck, these mercenaries will end their "tour of duty" hanging from a bridge.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:28 | 4720335 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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2004 Fallujah ambush?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:47 | 4720445 Thought Processor
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Either that or they will mysteriously die in helicopter crashes.


Bridges would be better though.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:46 | 4720711 Ignatius
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As in a 'Dresden-like, Fallujah ambush'.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:58 | 4720758 Jack Burton
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My few Russian sources say that if foreign mercenaries are caught taking part inside Ukraine's East, that their fate will be horrific. I mean really bad. People are not going to accept NATO and USA troops in their towns and cities. It will go really bad for the US Mercs. I hope the pay us taxpayers must pay them for their services to the NATO expansion is worth the risk.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:26 | 4720317 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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If that is true, I hope they capture several of them, for interrogation and public display.

It would be a PR disaster for current "government" of Ukraine.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:58 | 4720766 Jack Burton
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:40 | 4720401 blentus
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Nothing about Obamacare?



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:25 | 4720315 EverythingEviL
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Fuck you Arius

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:54 | 4720161 DeliciousSteak
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It's amazing how the western MSM managed to make the people focus on that part, instead of the part that actually matters, and it even turned into something like a meme! Western propaganda is indeed powerful and well honed.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:08 | 4721087 Joe A
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Well, that is actually old news really.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:52 | 4720146 Dr. Engali
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Things were going so well. The economy was finally fixed, the stawk market was hitting new highs and then WWIII broke out. Poor el presidente Zero can't catch a break.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:16 | 4720277 Arius
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my guess all well planned in advance with the goal fleencing whatever is left in peasants pockets

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:40 | 4720410 Two-bits
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The reason for the Fed's emergency meeting?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:58 | 4720500 intric8
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Hows this-

"now tensions are roiling in Odessa as the Ukraine government tries to live up to the IMF's demands or "fight or no money""

They're already enslaved, but apparently, they dont even fucking realize it yet

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:06 | 4720216 McMolotov
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Might be time to call Bill Paxton.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:10 | 4720557 doctor10
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Forcing the Uranians to "make their bones" to get their membership in the Western Banking Cabal. About the crudest play in a century or so.

Right up their with Jacob Schiff putting it to the Czar and his family by funding the Bolsheviks-and don't think Putin doesn't understand that bit of history!!!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:40 | 4720068 freeasabee1
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can't wait till Putin comes and kicks these ukrainians in the ass. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:52 | 4720143 Martin W
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Putin should better kick you in your empty head.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:30 | 4720351 MarsInScorpio
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Let me make this as simple as you are - If the West had not paid for this coup against the legitimately elected government of Ukraine, none of this would be happening.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:06 | 4720795 Martin W
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Unfortunately what you say may be true. Brave young people who fought on the Maidan for pro-Western Ukraine did not anticipate that they will loose half of country for Russia....

The West made the same mistake.




I am not simple, just can't stand someone says: “can't wait till Putin comes and kicks these ukrainians in the ass.” 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:29 | 4721222 freeasabee1
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why, Might means right on this shit hole we call earth.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:41 | 4720069 LawsofPhysics
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A new "hot" war, and western media remains silent.  Probably a good thing, considering how Siria turned out.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:44 | 4720095 Overfed
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Kiev needs to deliver a civil war so they can get that IMF blood money.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:57 | 4720173 Never One Roach
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"Winning minds and hearts, one at a time...."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:20 | 4720297 i-dog
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...then selling them on the black market.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:33 | 4720366 Wahooo
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Shouldn't we go in and burn some villages? We gotta save that place!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:08 | 4720233 LawsofPhysics
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Again, their efforts will be just as successful as the Syrian rebels efforts were...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:32 | 4720359 SoDamnMad
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Do it right. Open up with some of those 12.7 mm on those human shields. Might make them think twice (well they won't get a next time but someone else might).  Surface to air missiles in the hands of farmers. Yeah right.  If you are going to lose half your country either give Russian everything east of the Dnieper River but first blow the hell out of all those "locals" with the latest in Russian equipment.  One more thing, default on the Gazprom debt. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:01 | 4720781 Jack Burton
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"Yats" is both an Israeli and an IMF banker. What more do we need to know about the Kiev coup government.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:41 | 4720075 intric8
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Leave it to the neocons to rip an innocent country apart. Reminds me of gordon gecko gutting bluestar airlines because they were so 'wreckable'

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:47 | 4720114 McMolotov
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Uncle Sam's anti-Midas touch strikes again and turns another country to shit.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:03 | 4720178 Winston Churchill
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"You have to destroy a village, to save it."
What was Hitlary's book called again ?
The psychopath was laughing at us.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:50 | 4720729 Ignatius
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Oh, I know that one:

"It Takes a Policy To Destroy a Village"

Available on Amazon

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:44 | 4720092 slightlyskeptical
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"but said Moscow would not respond with similar measures"


I wouldn't want to be anywhere in the neighborhood when Russia finally devides that it will respond.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:13 | 4720258 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They don't have to since it doesn't block any strategic purposes. They can still ship by boat into the region and protect the shipping lane quite easily. Bet the 'seperatists already control at least one key shipping port.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:45 | 4720437 exi1ed0ne
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It's gonna be a COLD winter in the EU this year.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:03 | 4720793 Jack Burton
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Agreed. Russia has been very calm and non reactive. They are giving Kiev and NATO all the rope they need to hang themsleves. When the enemy are self destructing, do not get in their way!.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:45 | 4720098 g'kar
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I get confused....are these Holy Warriors or Terrorists...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:54 | 4720158 actionjacksonbrownie
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These poor lost souls are fighting for the right to be ass-raped by globalist bankers.


You can't make this shit up...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:47 | 4720108 A_Nejad
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I tell ya, those Ukrainian fascists must REALLY need that IMF loan bad!!! 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:34 | 4720377 MarsInScorpio
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Gotta finance the rise of the Four Reich . . .


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:47 | 4720111 TheMeatTrapper
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If Russia wanted to destabilize Ukraine, all they have to do is allow a couple of dozen containers of RPD's and RPG's to 'get stolen'. That alone would be enough for game over. 

If the US wants to push things - Russia can push back a hell of a lot harder. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:43 | 4720428 homonohumanus
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If Russia wanted to destabilize Ukraine they would simply have ended the rebate on nat gaz...

Now it makes no sense because they have a legal military base in Crimea and good relation with the country elected rulers... oh wait...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:52 | 4720466 lakecity55
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If Russia really wanted to, they could put 100,000 soldiers into Ukraine, by sea, parachute, and armored cavalry with total air superiority.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:47 | 4720112 earnyermoney
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Ban commerciial flights? Great, guess Putin's only option is to  send military flights to "protect" the civilians. Where have we seen this before?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:35 | 4720385 MarsInScorpio
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The Berlin Airlift.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:49 | 4720116 Dr. Engali
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Shouldn't that read: The Ukraine's illegally installed puppet of a U.S alphabet agency?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:49 | 4720119 TungstenBars
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I like how they claim Crimea is "temporarily occupied territory" on that map. LOL!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:51 | 4720137 fonzannoon
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Holy shit 2.58% 10yr

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:55 | 4720159 Dr. Engali
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You can almost hear the banker's assholes pucker.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:00 | 4720185 fonzannoon
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Here is the view from retail

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:14 | 4720267 CrashisOptimistic
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All the ZH bond illuminati, of which I consider myself a member, were looking for 2.7 in the wake of the uber polished job report last night.

We sure have a good handle on that.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:52 | 4720141 swass
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In honor of the next Star Wars movie, the Ukrainian police should dress as storm troopers and the pro-Russians as rebel scum.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:59 | 4720180 Dr. Engali
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As long as Jar Jar Binks gets killed in the first scene, I'm happy.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:03 | 4720198 swass
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I think if John McCain can ship some cheap Chinese-made, plastic light sabers to them with some super-volt D-size batteries, this will get interesting.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:05 | 4720210 detached.amusement
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with the way these asshats write movies, they'd pull a Robot Chicken and immediately have him back in the movie, all sparkly-glowy and every bit as annoying as ever.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:37 | 4720396 actionjacksonbrownie
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I think the character Jar Jar Binks was based on the real-life character John Kerry

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:07 | 4720542 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yeah that twat was seriously irritating.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:40 | 4720939 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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I don't know if you're going to believe this, but Darth Vader is officially registered candidate for mayor of Odessa. I'm not making this up - Link

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:53 | 4720147 Charles The Ham...
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Did that guy have a medieval steel helmet on? Did anyone else see that? I cannot get enough of this stuff 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:40 | 4720415 Urban Redneck
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To quote Captain Obvious (aka Donald Rumsfeld) "you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time". It could be worse, at least they don't have to resort to bread helmets...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:51 | 4720462 swass
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Perhaps entertainers at the Ukrainian Medieval Times got out of work early and decided to join the festivities.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:58 | 4720157 MarkAntony
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"...cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war..."

Yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Lets push that global reset button!!!! Clean the slate I tell ya...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:16 | 4720170 Itchy and Scratchy
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Hey thanks Satanical U.S. Sec of State Victoria (FU) Nuland (nee:Nudleman) Kagan for showin' up.!!! What in the "F' wud we have done without ya' you little sweetheart? Wish she hung around for the festivities so I cud see her hangin' in the town square!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:01 | 4720196 elwind45
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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:19 | 4720294 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Even the FED and the other central banks work for someone else. There is only 1 point on the top of a pyramid structure. It is not your soul they are after but your identity so they can maintain control.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:48 | 4720449 lakecity55
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(Bof IS Board meeting)

"Is everyone here?"

"Ja, all but the Chairman."

(POOF! Black smoke appears)

"Ah, he is here now!"

"That smoke is really gets to me."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:04 | 4720201 elwind45
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What nobody calling to audit the FED? How many rubles they are sitting on since first of the year!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:04 | 4720203 novictim
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"According to local media, the site of the collision are fifteen hundred aggressive young people, many of whom are armed. "

These traitors could have left for Mother Russia.  But they stay in order to destroy Ukraine. Shoot them like the pack of wild dogs that they are.

Mass graves will be their deserved resting place. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:11 | 4720245 NotApplicable
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So... which three letter agency do you work for?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:22 | 4720307 pods
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And more importantly, how do I get a piece of this action?

Figure I am here daily anyways, might as well get paid.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:27 | 4720324 A_Nejad
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It's in the "red" pods, either you have it or, luckily, are not one of the "chosen" bullshiters...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:38 | 4720397 no1wonder
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I reckon it could the two-letter one (AP) that today released this piece with an unmistakable hyena breath: NATO official: Russia now an adversary

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:44 | 4720433 lakecity55
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"I can't get anywhere in this town, it is so congested due to MI6CIAMOSSAD-ETC."

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:16 | 4720281 Tracerfan
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The armed thugs are the pro-Kiev Right Sector Nazis.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:05 | 4720207 elwind45
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I give you rubble you give me 3D printers

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:10 | 4720242 elwind45
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Battelle is always hiring!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:18 | 4720265 Jorgen
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Crimea is marked as "Temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine" on that map...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:15 | 4720271 Tracerfan
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Having watched hours of live video from Slavyansk, there are no "human shields" being used.  There are humans standing up to the Kiev Nazi regime's stormtroopers, who are engagead in war crimes shooting at unarmed civilians.

The Nazi Kiev regime must be taken out and brought to justice.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:15 | 4720275 tony wilson
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these ukainians are slovenly and fuckin feckless godamit

day got no spirit for der freedom fight.

feckless boneidle fuckers

8 billion dollars are top state dept brains.

chatham house brookings rokerfella and rothschild brass inski and henry kiss offinger.

we gave them navy seals,blackwater and mossad kidron teams fuckin feckless.



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:57 | 4720495 Continue With This
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You need some Prozac.


You can't properly write anything in English.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:13 | 4721116 shovelhead
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It's funnier than his "Jews are stealing my shoes" schtick.

Not by much though.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:21 | 4720303 blentus
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... unless we've put you in power, then it's ok.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:23 | 4720309 Atomizer
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Psychopath operation to drive up Global GDP growth.

Forsystemic Banking Crisis will become the latest buzzword to induce fear by MSM. Open your wallet/purse bitchez or we’ll seize your banking account activity.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:35 | 4720371 novictim
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Does it EVER occur to you folks that the major player in this part of the world is RUSSIA... And NOT the United States?

Now, I know I am talking to a bunch of Kremlin flunkies so you can take my comments as rhetorical.  

It's just that I have had to put up with so many US lefties (like myself) spouting this line that the USA is in control of every situation, that sovereign countries and people have no "agency" to act on their own interests.  

What of Occam's Razor???  Maybe what you see IS what you get.  Maybe the Ukraine has a legitimate native movement to rid itself of the corrupting influence from Moscow??

The more I hear ridiculous claims of US power and influence where it is obvious that does not play a major factor, the more I think that those saying it are living in a cartoon-fantasy world where the USA is some All Powerful "Imperium".  Reality is simpler than that.  Ukraine wants to be UKRAINE!  

The idiot conspiracy theories just get real old after a while.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:45 | 4720440 Atomizer
Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:55 | 4720481 MarsInScorpio
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I'm torn between labeling you a gov troll, or a total idiot . . .


The US dropped $5-billion into overthrowing the legitimate government of Ukraine. The election had been overseen by 43 nations, including the US. Every one of them signed off on it.


Prior to the coup, Russia had agreed to a $15-billion Euro loan for Ukraine. In exchange, part of the deal was an extended lease on their Black Sea port.


Please note what happens if the US hadn't turned criminal and overthrown the government:


1) No revolt in Crimea - it remains part of Ukraine.


2) No pressure about paying for Russian gas. No conflict with EU about continued shipping either.


3) No separatist movement in east Ukraine. Peace reigns supreme.


4) No Nazis running the self-appointed government in Kiev.


5) No need for IMF loan - along with its "Start WW III or no money for you" clause.


6) If the opposition to the legitimate government is so hot to take over, they have 2 years to organize - peacefully. Of course, they knew they don't represent the will of the majority, so that plan is a dead-end - so it's Nuland and the $5-billion coup instead.


7) No riots in other parts of Ukraine - as are now spreading.


8) No confrontation with Russia and NATO.


9) No idiot / gov trolls like you spouting insanity.


Reality check , , , the US is 100% responsible for all the death and destruction occurring in Ukraine.



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:01 | 4720515 Atomizer
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Are you talking to me or the asshole above?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:09 | 4720547 MarsInScorpio
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The lead-in was "No," short for Novictim. Sorry for any misunderstanding.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:22 | 4720611 Itchy and Scratchy
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Nice summary. U nailed it my friend!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:24 | 4721191 shovelhead
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Quite a few other players in there besides the US but we got the printing machine so I guess in this case, whatever the percentages are, the US is still #1 at something.

Lots of experience in the Rent-a-thug business. NGO = Normal Govt. Operation.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:53 | 4720734 novictim
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Listening to you, you'd think that Russia was some injured party, a boyscout troop with no horrific acts of brutality and antidemocratic chess moves.  Your comments are Crazy to the point of NOT HONEST.

You, Mars, must buy into the idea that powerful countries have legitimate spheres of influence and control which I surely contest.  The very concept is repugnant.

1) The Ukraine has a right to play the USA offers against the EU offers against the Kremlin's offers.  Nuland can go Fuck herself, but the mouthing of this bitch-hack changes none of the legitimate rights for Ukrainian Independence and Ukrainian rights to settle its own affairs.  

Only a lackey for the Imperial aspirations of Princess Putin would think otherwise.

2) Russia has the Right to Play with gas prices and "turn it off".  I support to use this lever.

Russia does not, however, have the right to invade Crimea and place special forces troops in other Ukrainian territories. I support aiding the Ukrainians to resist that to the Nth degree.

3) Ukraine has a right to put-down separatists without interference.  

Russia was a signatory in 1994 for the Budapest Memorandum which guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. Russia should be forced to honor its agreements.  

4) The Ukraine has the right to hold Elections for Democratic offices later this month.  


Your own position, mars, is as though it would be a USA "right" to invade Nicaragua because it is in some imaginary sphere of influence.  I opposed Reagan during the Contra War...did you?  Did you march?  The USA does not have a moral or legal right to do this. And Russia has no such "right".  

The Monroe doctrine is not legitimate in the 21st Century.  The same goes for Russian "spheres of influence".


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:58 | 4720765 bardot63
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92 million Americans are not working.  We are Ukraine.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:39 | 4720386 franzpick
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Congratulations Victoria Nuland, your paid-for putsch forces have blockaded the 100k Ukrainian residents of Slavyansk who are now without food supply and who will shortly "surrender". Your takeover and suppression of Russian speaking Ukrainians now threatens Putin, who will be forced to respond after today's UNSC meeting ends without resolution. So you will shortly have your hot war, and I hope the cost of the upcoming 20% equity decline, the ensuing trade, business and US$ collapse fully demonstrates the malicious, cruel and financially damaging nature of your ill-conceived partisan-politic-based "foreign policy".

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:36 | 4720391 bankonzhongguo
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And to think this all started in October.


Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:39 | 4720402 CrashisOptimistic
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The wacko trolls get paid per reply.  Try to make a point of responding to them only with new posts, even if the post is scrolled down pages beyond.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:13 | 4721110 Jackagain
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I never got a check so I guess I'm alright....

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:47 | 4720435 JesusUp
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Ukraine's Terrorist Operation Turns Deadly



Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:46 | 4720438 Canucklehead
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Well, time will tell. I believe the trick to gauge world opinion is to see how this escalates... or doesn't. I've always felt there was unmentioned agreement with Russia taking the Crimea. The trick is how to "negotiate" with Russia to stop there. I think it is reasonable to assume that any agreement written down wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed upon. No one wants to look like Neville Chamberlain (or Johnny Onions).

That being said, one should expect escalations, with "rebels" pushing the envelope. Human nature would call for "rebels" to seek opportunities to drag their "sugar-daddys" into a bigger conflict.

Don't be surprised if this type of action progresses all weekend and we are here Monday morning looking at some type of stalemate. The proper final answer would be for the Russians to accept migration of Russians living in Ukraine back to Mother Russia.

I believe the Ukrainian tactic is to take things slow to see whether Russia will step into the fracas. Earlier, Putin stated he wanted Ukraine to set-up a dialogue with the Russian Ukrainians. This weekend will be a test to see if he stands by those words.

I suspect the world has seen enough escalation to expect Putin to move the military into the Ukraine and grab more lands. The question is... will he do it? There clearly will be pressure on him to order that action.

This weekend will tell the tale.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:38 | 4721263 novictim
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Nice analysis, Canuck.  

Russia's military has likely informed Putin that a overt military option will spell disaster for Russia.  

Sure, the Russian military could roll into Kiev in 4-7 days...but then what? What would be the end-game?  They know that there would be none.  It would be an endless confict that would spill out into the farthest reaches of Russian cities and assets.  

The best (worst?) Russia can do with the cards they hold is to send in more special forces and saboteurs, provocateurs.  But again, what is the end game?  

Did I mention NATO forces and the possible loss of Russia's entire Western Air and Sea forces?  This would not be WWIII but Russia might think it was.

Every day that goes by and we do not see Russia crossing the Rubicon suggests that sanity and practical considerations are displacing the manic musings of Czarina Vladima. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:47 | 4721301 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Made me laugh. Just knowing your contributions to Ukraine linked threads was enough for me to burst into a fit of the laughings...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:10 | 4720558 Peacen1k
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Anyone out there gullible enough to still believe anything the Ukranistan pseudo-government says?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:28 | 4721217 nje
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Ukraine's government have been more honest in their statements and more forthright about the true intentions of their actions than Russia's government has. But neither of them, nor the US, has much credibility right now.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 13:55 | 4721003 Bugsquasher
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That the vast majority of the posters in here are completly ignorant of the deep history between Ukraine and Russia is appaling.  There are just as much acting like tools as any CIA or FSB trolls.  This is the product of our contemporary (lack of) education system. To think that all the bad guys are on one side and all the good guy on the other is both naive and stupid.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:12 | 4721104 Jackagain
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Most ZH'ers here are backing Russia...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:10 | 4721095 Jackagain
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Smoke & mirrors? I wonder what all Obama and Dmitry Medvedev were discussing a couple years back?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 14:49 | 4721306 shovelhead
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Putin is dragging his heels.

I thought he'd be at the Dniester by Easter and now we're lucky if we see the Dnieper by Leap Year.

Poor old boy is slowing down. During the last Olympics he managed 2 breakaway republics in Georgia in 8 days giving him a gold medal.

Grabbing the Crimea without a subsequent land bridge to supply it may not be enough to snatch a bronze.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 16:21 | 4721675 novictim
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CSPAN 1 (now) Showing Russia getting the "What for!" from Mark Lyall, British UN Ambassador.

Russia directly implicated in armed insurrection in Ukraine. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:02 | 4721823 novictim
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CSPAN1 (now)

Raimonda Murmokaite, Lithuanian Ambassador to UN, places the violence in Ukraine at the feet of RUSSIA.  She notes that Russia is trying to over-throw Ukraine and take Ukraine.  

She notes that the mobile weapons systems used by separatists to down 3 Ukrainian helicopters today are evidence of Russian involvement.  

She compares the death toll in Aleppo market two days ago from Russia backed Assad's use of Barrel Bombs to that of today in Odessa...notes the hypocrisy of Russia.

She says Ukraine must do what ever it takes to re-establish Ukrainian authority over all cities of Ukraine.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 18:00 | 4722039 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Made me laugh.

But hey, dont worry, Ukrainian Junta Citizenism citizens' standards are volatile, anytime it suits them.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:26 | 4722328 shovelhead
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Russia trying to overthrow the Ukrainian govt. we paid (not so) good money to already overthrow?

The dirty rat bastards...

This requires a strongly worded statement (again) from our Commander of Choom.

Hey novictim,

You should hook up with these guys and maybe you can get a nifty t-shirt to wear in the front lines of battle.


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