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Voice Recording From Missing Flight MH370 Was Edited
It has been nearly two months since Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 disappeared without a trace on March 8. Since then, despite the endless coverage of CNN, there has been absolutely no progress in uncovering any clues about the fate of the missing Boeing 777. Perhaps the following may provide some clarity on why.
On Thursday, for the first time, 7 minutes of audio recordings of the final conversations between pilots of the missing Malaysian jet and teams of air traffic controllers on the ground were released.
The recording is provided below.
There is one problem: the recordings were "edited" leading many to wonder if the entire conversation wasn't fabricated on a sound stage, and if so: why? And just what is the Malaysian government (either alone or in conjunction with other countries) hiding.
Analysts who listened to the recordings for NBC News did not know why they were edited, but discovered at least four clear breaks in the audio that indicated edits.
"It's very strange," said audio-video forensic expert and registered investigator Ed Primeau of Primeau Forensics, who has analyzed hundreds of audio recordings. He said the beginning and end of the recording are high-quality with a low noise floor, meaning ambient background noise is almost silent, unlike the middle.
"At approximately 1:14 (a minute, 14 seconds into the audio, which can be heard here), the tone of the recording change to where to me, it sounds like someone is holding a digital recorder up to a speaker, so it's a microphone-to-speaker transfer of that information. That's a pretty big deal because it raises the first red flag about there possibly being some editing," he said.
The next part that raises questions is two minutes, six seconds in, through two minutes, nine seconds in, he said.
"I can hear noise in the room, along with the increase in the noise floor. I can hear a file door being closed, I can hear some papers being shuffled. so I'm further convinced that, beginning at 1:14 continuing through 2:06 to 2:15, it's a digital recorder being held up to a speaker."
Long gaps in the communication throughout the recording also imply some editing, he said.
"But yet, at 6:17, there's a huge edit because the conversation is cut off. It's interrupted. And the tone changes again," he said. "The noise floor, when you're authenticating a recording from a forensic perspective, is a very important part of the process. All of a sudden, we go back to the same quality and extremely low noise floor that we had at the beginning of the recording."
Kent Gibson, a forensic audio examiner with Forensic Audio in Los Angeles, added that there appear to be additional edits at 2:11 and 5:08, and agreed it sounded as though the middle section was recorded with a microphone near a speaker.
"You can hear, at 4:07, pages turning or a person breathing, which is unusual," he said.
While it's not uncommon for the background of a recording to change when a cockpit communication turns over from ground control to air controllers — which happened about four minutes into this recording — that doesn't explain the noises that are heard.
"It's not unusual that there would be clicks when they push the button on the microphone, but it's very unusual to have a disturbance. Normally you wouldn't have any background," Gibson said.
A cut-off word also isn't out of the realm of possibility, he said.
"It wouldn't be unthinkable to have a truncated word because if somebody let go of the trigger on the microphone, it might cut off their word," he said. "But it would be very unusual to find a background differential at the same time, suggesting that Malaysian authorities or whoever presented this made edits for whatever reason."
So why did the authorities fabricate the recording? Simple: the pilot said something the government did not want leaked:
Gibson said it’s possible the tapes could have been edited by Malaysian authorities "if the pilot dropped a hint that they didn't want to get out, if he said something that doesn't fit with the Malaysian government's party line."
But, he said, "It's more likely to be an inadvertent thing. But it's not the way to handle evidence."
The recording also could have come from different sources, he added.
"You can assume that the recording while they're still on the ground came from the tower and then you could assume that the communication with air controllers was while they're in the air," he said. "They may have just mishandled the cobbling of it together."
This doesn't necessarily prove anything about the investigation, he added. "Unfortunately, there are no smoking guns, except there are edits. And there are clear edits," he said.
So no smoking guns, except... there are smoking guns. "There's things that have to do with timelines and radar that they have available, but they don't make them available," said Tom Owen, a consultant for Owen Forensic Services audio analysis and chairman emeritus of the American Board of Recorded Evidence. "They wouldn't give you anything that would be enlightening for the public to any secretive information. I don't see that as a problematic issue."
Considering several hundred people are missing, presumed dead, purposefully covering up critical clues as to what happened is certainly a problematic issue, even if thanks to the government's botched up handling of the situation, it does impart a significant dose of morbid humor to the following advertisement from Malaysian Airlines.
Finally, for all those who have been inquiring and trying to get to the bottom of this mystery, here is the official cargo manifest of flight MH370 - no doubt "edited" as well.
h/t Ro
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Its in a hanger somewhere!!!!
My Sense Is 370 Was Shot Down By Some Military Operation, Or Was Force Crashed Somewhere...
Pilot May Have Been Making Some Politcan Demands???
What The Investigation Timeline Offers Is Shot Full Of Holes, Right From Day .1 ...
somehow the Clintons are making money off this.
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Why isn't the MSM talking any more about the landing simulator that the pilot had in his home where he was practicing how to land in remote pacific airports that included a secretive base of the USD. When the police firat discovered this, it was in the MSM, but it quickly dissappeared with no additional explanations.
Is Richard Nixon in Diego Garcia?
Since we have been programmed to have attention spans of less than 60 seconds you might want to check out the last item on the bill...
KERRY LOGISTICS (MALAYSIA) (I shit you not)
The Bonesman's prints are all over this job...
Mangosteen: it's jewcy.
I am Chumbawamba.
more complete transcript below:
pilot: breaker one nine
tower: what's your handle there, big fella
pilot: this is "batman returns"
tower: what you carrying today, batman?
pilot: we got ourselves a load of pressure cookers on board
tower: where you headed with them pressure cookers, batman?
pilot: we're airlifting them to benghazi
tower: we copy
pilot: then we're heading for a DC terminal descent
tower: we'll go ahead and clear that airspace and disable all video cameras
pilot: much obliged
tower: have we left out any memes?
pilot: I got natalee holloway riding shotgun
tower: should have known
pilot: batman out
One of the nice things about browsing zh is NOT READING ABOUT THIS GAWDDAMN MISSING PLANE!!
In China where the majority of the victims is from the following story is openly discussed: The pilot has hijacked the plane and negotiated with the Malaysian government in order to force the release of Anwar Ibrahim who has recently been imprisoned again. The Malaysian government has not talked about these negotiations in order to save face. I have no idea whether this is true or not but it is certainly not beyond imagination.
+100 james cole
Seriously.
So it was either a military action or alien abduction.
Everything else is bullshit.
That area of the world is one of the most militarized, radar, optical coverage from the ground, ships, planes ans satellites has no clue?
I CALL BULLSHIT
And they keep telling us that they can track a drip of jizzm form 17 miles high and sure can find the shit on my neighbors with no problem then not a fucking clue?
Bullshit
for this cnn-meme, like others, you just gotta go with your gut
the theatre of the absurd gut
the so-called "airplane" was actually a flying unicorn from Zega-14
it was carrying love beads for all the good little boys and girls
now back to natalee holloway and the pressure cookers (unless that one has been retired now)
It was carrying anal beads for a the good little boys and girls?
Ah hah! Musta been British pilots! From upper-crust public schools. Read buggery and pedophilia. At Queen's College
Humanitarians care not about another rabbit hole. The truth is out. We want liberty.
somehow Dick Rumsfeld is getting Malaysian boys sent to his room for free
the ad is a fake
Here is a theory on the 4 freescale engineers on board. I dont know.
those 4 Chinese men were co-holders of the patent (with Freescale being the fifth holder) are worth billions of dollars due to that system that they came up with. Iif they were to die then Freescale would acquire full ownership of that patent. Billions of dollars would surely be reason for someone (or a group of people) to conspire to kill them. "
They really carried highly flammable lithium ion batteries, according to the shipping manifest.
SEMICONDUCTOR PATENT
"But the questions that arise are why were there so many Freescale employees traveling together? What were their jobs? Their mission? And did they employees carry valuable cargo? With all the power our elite carry, why couldn’t they track down the missing plane?"
...
FOUR DAYS AFTER the flight MH370 disappear, semiconductor patent was approved by the U.S. patent office patent is divided in parts of 20% between five starters. One of the owners is the company itself, Freescale Semiconductor, Austin, Texas (USA), and the other four Chinese employees of the company: Peidong Wang, Zhijun Chen, Cheng and Li Ying Zhijong, all the Suzhou City. And they all passengers of Malaysia Airlines plane disappeared on March 8, according Eternity.”
It adds: “Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane. As all four Chinese members of the Patent were passengers on the missing plane.”
Patent holders can alter the proceeds legally by passing wealth to their heirs. “However, they cannot do so until the Patent is approved. So when the plane went missing, the patent had not been approved.”
Although a Freescale patent exists under number US8650327, none of the names listed actually appear on the passenger manifest released by the Malaysian authorities.
If the patent holder dies, the other owners share equally in dividends from the deceased. If four of the five patentees die, then the patentee left alive gets 100% of the patent. That remaining patent holder is the company Freescale Semiconductor. Who owns Freescale Semiconductor? The answer is: Jacob Rothschild. British billionaire owns the company Blackstone, which in turn owns the company Freescale Semiconductors. Several speculations on the Internet now pay attention to this circumstance. The Rothschilds are a dynasty of financiers and international bankers of German-Jewish origin . The family is from the nineteenth century one of the most influential families of bankers and financiers of Europe.”
TO See Patent Upclose: http://truthnewsinternational.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/us008671381.pd...
Is this just another coincidence? I don’t think so.
More hereyou had me at rothschild:
http://intellihub.com/rothschild-owned-blackstone-group-benefits-missing...
Jim: "Scotty, when can we get the transporter back online so we can send these good folks home?"
Scotty: "Sorry Captain, we're waiting from Star Fleet Central to ok their returns."
Jim: "So it's up to that Russian, no?"
Spock: "illogical."
Given the bizzaro route this thing took it seems to me that this plane was being flown remotely. And, given that it came down after this bizzaro route in very deep water suggests that someone didnt want this plane to found. Which begs the question... Why?
Tyler for sure knows the scoop but is lacking the balls. Tell them Tyler...!
Do Aliens have the industrial capacity to do '300 odd' rectal examinations at once?
You'd think by now they'd have learned it's a shitty job.
There are people that know where 370 is ... if they speak of it openly they will relocated to be with the missing passengers.
When the US returns the next shipment of gold to Germany, it will be sent from Diego Garcia.
as likely as anywhere else. more likely than some, like fort knox.
but i wouldn't hold my breath.
"One of the nice things about browsing zh is NOT READING ABOUT THIS GAWDDAMN MISSING PLANE!! "
Why would you read about this topic anywhere else besides Zerohedge?!?!
OMG.... you watch tv :(
We got ourselves a convoy!
Simple: The chants of "Allah Akbar" would have been a dead give-away. Extremely unhelpful to the "Islam is a religion of peace" meme.
Kerry Logistics is a subsidiary of Kerry Properties Ltd ("incorporated in Bermuda with Limited Liability" seems to be their motto, not just their history). Mostly an umbrella for Chinese real-estate companies, with one cargo company as well. Their corporate governance page doesn't actually tell you who any of the board or C-levels are until you start digging down into memos released on the investor relations page. They're all Chinese except for a knighted Brit who serves in some sort of advisory capacity, used to be an exec with Hong Kong's Mass Transit Railway, and is also a figure in British educational programs in China: probably a minor figure of the British upper-class who is getting a paycheck through a couple of real-estate ventures on the side, while devoting himself to some sort of philanthropic work to support an ethos of reliving colonialist philanthropic fantasies. There is at least one other OBE, but with a Chinese name, who served until 2010. Some of the board members are very well connected and involved with a wide array of public functions (including Witness Protection in Hong Kong). A couple of ties to PriceWaterhouseCoopers and Ernst and Young. Nothing that stands out, though, and nothing attaching to the Kerry of State Department notoriety. You can find more info on the company at https://webb-site.com/dbpub/officers.asp?p=809
Top marks for good sleuthing young Jedi. Had I actually believed there was going to be a connection I knew it wouldn't be that obvious hence the "reverse false flag" comment below.
I have got to start putting the /sarc tags back into my posts....
Poe's law is a strong force around here. It can be hard to tell the difference between sarcasm and genuine belief in nutty conspiracy theories; on the other hand it can be hard to distinguish nutty conspiracy theories from real conspiracy facts, because too many of the former turn out to contain something of the latter. Sometimes sarcasm ends up being catastrophically correct (like the Tylers' various comments about the Cypriot corralito or the Fed). Researching helps me sift things out to make sense of Zerohedge. My apologies, if I've offended.
Never offended.
If I am wrong about something like believing the world is 5,000 years old and a man can live to be 1,000 years old (like G W Bush) ... I would want someone to straighten me out the sooner the better.
Plus I love a good old fashioned 'cat fight' every now and then... ;)
GW is not a 1000 but it's debatable about the wife
Not to spoil the party but Kerry Logistics is a Hong Kong based freight forwarder. However, John Kerry is an asshole
John Kerry is John Kohn.
A horses asshole.
Kerry Logistics is a freight company owned by the Koh family a Malaysian Chinese family who are based in Hong Kong . They have hughe holdings in Malaysia in palm oil plantations , Kwantan Flour Mills and also own the massive Shrangri La hotel group. They are extremely well connected politically and the Chinese premier stayed at the KL Shrangri La on his visit to KL last year. It would be normal for Kerry Logistics to have cargo on that flight so I would not make too many connections.
Hey Zerohead, try this theory on for size. Came to me from an old buddy who was an Air Force officer.
Subject: MH370 - Possible, Probable, Wild Speculation??? (I choose door #3). During the American withdrawal from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014. The Taliban want money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the systems technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH 370 is the perfect carrier. There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 Iranians with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH 370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. During AWAC operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA /ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians are diversion distracter. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists. One does not like to think of officials or leaders as committing evil covert events or to do things to cover up a mess. They operate under the premise called The burden of leadership meaning, the end justifies the means. The few inside the circle know the truth, those outside the circle know a little bit, but if the majority is confused then the objective has been achieved in order to stabilize the insanity of world events. This has been the course of human history from the get go and if you are fortunate to shoot pool with certain spooks, you are privy to the inner circle. Hard to believe it, right? Thats the goal!This is the only version that I've heard that makes logical sense from start to finish to me. Thanks for sharing.
And all this time I thought it was just a complimentary ketchup delivery to the chinese premier.
I'd love to see this in a movie..
Too complicated. Pilot was nutz, dropped plane.
Occam's razor. End of story.
But it does sew up all those loose ends now doesn't it?
How would you account for the complete absence of any debris or surface slick?
4min10sec: Someone unclicks the rings of a D-ring binder. Pages are removed clumsily (you can hear the edge of a sheet catch on the edge of the metal), and then the binder is closed.
I go for the simple story. Pilot hijacks it and threatens to crash it into the presidential palace unless opposition party politician is released from prison. Malaysian military shoots the plane down and the government covers up.
The drone thing is a red herring. No one in their right mind would design a remote control system where a command and control center was necessary in a combat zone. No one.
There is obviously something else gong on here, but it is not drone related.
Before Sandy Hoax and Boston "Boom" I would never had said this, but here goes: There was no plane, just a diversion.
whether or not this is true, you should definitely try to option this plot to one of the major studios.
pretty much everything that's happend since Sept. 9 2011 has had the hand of the American deep state involved, if anyone can come up with a list that differs please share....
Afghan, Iraq, M.E in general, ie, Syria, Egypt, Benghazi, Iran....looks to be the ME is a fail in regards to starting WWoar 3.0....so moving on to Ukraine, Russia, China etc.
Five bucks says that shit was made in Audacity. ;-)
with lots and lots of hope...and lies.
LOL!
"This part not loud enough."
Effect > Amplify > +12 dB
*HISSSSSSSSSSSSS!*
"Much better!"
Because it was likely planted there.
I'll look into it but if true. I believe that someone or something was on that plan that some govt. or real important people wanted off and/or dead and the only way to get it was to steal it with everybody else. You see if that jet was going to be used for a terrorists nuke attack aka false flag, it would be easier for them to place said item on a real commercial jet and allow it to get to said city airport and detonate it (usually the jets go over a city befor getting to the airport).
When was the last time you heard anything from Edward Snowden?.....Was he on Board????
< Reverse False Flag
< Double Reverse False Flag
Kerry Logistics (Malaysia) sending 13 packages...
Aren't 11, 13 and 33 Illuminati magic numbers or something?
This is just soooo damn obvious I'm going to have to vote "Reverse False Flag" or even "Double Reverse False Flag" on this one...
Is that like Double Secret Probation? This shit is confusing!
Double Reverse Cowgirl
Well, the Mena, AR airfield can't handle a 777.
That is one of the funniest comments I've ever seen on here.
CNN's Don Lemon says the plane was grabbed by a black hole.... and he is still making money from Time Warner.
CNN tries on Black Holes & The Rapture to explain MH370 (3/21)
Apparently the Derp is very strong with this one as a former Transportation Official actually, literally has to explain to CNN's Don (Magic Pants Logic-Man) Lemon that "No, Black Holes, Magic, Valdemort, The Rapture, the Bermuda Triangle, and the plot of Lost all probaby had nothing to do with the disappearance of the still missing Flight MH370".
“Is it possible, Mary?" asked, Lemon.
"A small black hole would suck in our entire universe, so we know it’s not that. A Bermuda Triangle is often weather, and Lost is a TV show.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/21/1286423/-CNN-tries-on-Black-Hol...
Only the Clintons?
The whole world is being ripped off: www.vho.org
And since they successfully built the world order on nothing but lies, they will continue to do so - until one day a lie will collapse and then the sheeple maybe will begin to question more.
audio recording edited/faked by the same team that did 0bama's birth certificate
Carney & Jarrett, BS peddlars LLC?
What ever happened to the dude on the oil rig off Vietnam who saw a burning plane at about the time the plane went missing? Sure hope he is ok as working on those rigs can be a very dangerous job. Also, has Rolls Royce ever commented on the last known running location of their engines? *crickets*
Boeing 777's cannot disappear into thin air!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjkpEV9hNJA
Except this one did.
The plane was "edited" out of the air.
I'm afraid the entire Missing 777 story was edited several times before it actually happened.
I just wish I had the subsequent chapters to this story.
I'm betting those chapters are in some un-published Tom Clancy manuscript that we may yet get to see play out in a "Theater" Near You...
All the world's a stage - Doncha Know...
Not w/o help from Thin Air experts: "Fly Thin Air. We can help you not get there"
"Bad-a-ping, bad-a-boom!" - Thin Air R Us.
It's actually not that unusual.
http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2014-03-13/vanishing-planes-mapped...
otoh
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze6l53f/whatflyingwaslikeinthe1960s/
I have researched this and cannot find as viable answer, so maybe someone here can help.
Initially when MH370 hit the propaganda media it was reported that Boeing 777s carry auto-deploy crash buoys. I.e. these deploy automatically when a rapid deceleration is detected and are designed to float, or otherwise mark the location of a crash. They are separate from all other location transponders and the black boxes.
My father says that he worked with similar on military planes and that, at least on those planes, they are NOT electrical and cannot be turned off. Such a system is mechanical and uses compressed gas, like an airbag, to deploy.
Now since the first or second day of the MH370 saga, I have been unable to confirm or deny that a Boeing 777 has auto-deploy buoys.
Can anyone confirm or deny this. And please, I only want factual info on the plane model, not more info on the MH370 saga itself, as I already suspect that it's a purple unicorn.
Thanks.
There are no such things on a Boeing 777. The plane has ELTs (Artex B406 B777. Honeywell RESCU 406 AFN, etc. that are designed for flying over land and an underwater locator beacon for the black box to find it in water.
http://www.minyanville.com/sectors/transportation/articles/The-Boeing-Co...
http://www.acrartex.com/products/catalog/elts-commercialmilitary/b406-4/ and http://www.emteq.com/cmsdocuments/STC_ST02929AT_B777.pdf
Thanks. good info.
Musta hit one of them thar microscopic black holes ive been reading about...
the story elsewhere was taliban stolen a mobile drone control center in afghanistan or elsewhere, that was sold to te chines which transported it in that flight.
awacs remote controlled the mh 370 to diego garcia, took out equipment and dumped the plane elsewhere
i mean, ourdays i am finally ready to believe everything, the stranger it ist..... etc etc
obama just there
http://eaglerising.com/5903/obama-tours-mosque-meet-persecuted-christians/
It's in a hangar in Diego Garcia.
It was entirely fictional in the first place.
yeah it is in garcia diego base, then moved to tel aviv in israel. the rothchild's wanted the kl02 chip. there were 20 freescale engineers aboard the plane. the Abledanger posts my linked thread of posts make it pretty damn clear what is going on. CNN just blocked tas times from publishing his video in a flight simulator proving the plane was hacked.
flase flag for the smallest chip in the world. done by zionists. solved. boom.
http://www.glefnet.com/?page_id=406
http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/03/31/356688/mh370-911-false-flag-gon...
at this point , every day we wake up on this planet, is amazing
Propaganda. Think of any major story where this type of corporate media effort was actually aimed at digging out the truth. At this point I really have little idea of what happened or why, but we watch and see how it's used.
Exactly. It's entirely possible even that the plane never took off in the first place
Similar story about one or more of the 9-11 airliners,
not scheduled, or never departed, or never went where it was claimed to have gone.
Yeah, and the families of the dead passengers never really had those siblings daughters, sons, fathers mothers uncles and what not. "They" airbrushed those people into their photos and home videos in massive edit rooms. Spooks brainwashed them. Hospital and school and employment records all spoofed.
Makes sense.
In all the video of hysteric crying relatives they were very much hiding their faces and identity!
Damn straight, Seasmoke. It's a beautiful day out there, too.
Peace.
Spy plane fries LAX traffic control radar:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/spy-plane-fries-air-traffic-c...
Yeah, a U-2
Then the DoD says they're to be retired in several years.
Does anybody else remember how many fucking times in the past they've been retired. Maybe a dozen?
Same shit as Omar El Abdickweed BiLaden.. killed previously about 6 times. Officially, I might add.
Actually it was the inability of the software to deal with integrating an aircraft @ 60,000 ft - not the U-2 itself. Headline just spin to attract more attention. Lazy inept programmers. What's new? Probably the same folks working on Obamacare.
Exactly my first thought...
Thank god the UFO's are invisible!
Mostly.
Sometimes.
At least over airports.
But not always.
schhhhhhh
listen to me
listen 2 me
keep calm dont panic
relax
close your eyes
thats it
gooooood
you are feeling rothschild sheepee
yes
when you here a tavistock musical note you will awake
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Rich, Smooth and without a bitter aftertaste.
Classic Tony Wilson.
It's 75% of what I come here for.
++++++ for the subtlety of the Tavistock reference
False flag in 3..2...1...
My question is "What could be so possibly important of cargo on that plane that they would try to pass off such an incredibly stupid and unbelievable "Lie" to think they could get away with it".
It had to be that significant to actually try and pull it off. And to be that arrogant to think you could get away with it.
Well...It seems to me that they (whomever they are) have gotten away with it.
What amazes me is that we are so deluded to believe that any justice against the perpetrators of these heinous crimes, anywhere on Earth, will ever be seen again.
It will be written off by the Media as another "Conspiracy Theory" for those whom question the "official story".
There is no hope whatsoever in living. None.
The people are callous and against the truth. It really needs total collapse and destruction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apokatastasis
Deathspell Omega - Apokatastasis Panton
Listen if you want to hear what "The Great Reset" sounds like.
I've imagined this to be the soundtrack for someone flying off on a spaceship away from Earth as the whole planet is in flames.
+1 for Deathspell Omega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFBAB3SzA4
Dangerous cargo of improperly loaded lithium batteries.
Smoke and fumes > ghost plane> fuel exhaustion.
To much liability and " loss of face" for the controlling Malaysian authority.
Hence obfuscate and muddy the water, ( does Fukushima ring a bell)
This is a reverse conspiracy theory, where the speculation is actually welcomed, while the cause, and those responsible, hide.
But we may never know...
How much does the US care about Malaysia ?
This is much bigger than Malaysia.
Most likely a diversion from their machinations and failure in the Ukraine.
I am glad the Bundy ranch thing didn't continue another day, otherwise another plane might have come up "missing."
My Sense Is 370 Was Shot Down By Some Military
And the rest is cover up. I still remember that Bernie Kalman lying about the airliner blown in half by the navy off the coast of New York.
I wondering if it is Chinese, Malasian, or American Scum responsible for this cover up.
Whatever Happened, I Would Speculate That The US Has The Detail Answers.
How Could The NSA NOT Have All The Pertinent Communication In their Vast Databases?????????
Why Are They Quiet Is The Question?
Tyler is focused on the cargo because the word around the campfire is that there was a shit ton of gold onboard.
I Remember On Day 1 Or 2, The Malay Mouthpiece Said About The Cargo, Laughingly, Its Mostly Mangos Or Something...
25 tons, actually. Which makes it a Billion-dollar heist.
I'm also partial to the hypothesis posted on ZH before, that the top 5 EEs from China's equivalent to Intel were on board, all from the same team that was working on a Chinese CPU (not AMD or Intel) and OS. Thus denying the NSA a back-door to Chinese computers. If so, this would be a far bigger story than 25 tons of Precious, and far more worthwhile to cover up by the US and Malaysia.
Just curious but...
How does anyone make money sending mangoes by air to China?
Mangosteens (not mangos) - highly prized fruit by Asian women (and others) but primarialy by the ladies there and they don't care what they cost. They want them ripe and fresh and right now!
Thanks... I guess the economics support the air freight charges.
So, mangosteens is good code-word for golds???
They're delicious and in season now, they have a tough black soft skin about 1/2" thick and inside is this sweet white fruit sort of like Lichee's. They're typcially the size a lemon.
They don't grow in CHINA, so they have to be imported from SE-ASIA.
CHINA is also the largest importer of CALIFORNIA Almonds they love them and they can't grow them.
The battery story still doesn't stick, the wieght doesn't match, and they refuse to say who made the battery's only say who they were consigned to in CHINA.
Thus MOST likely the GOLD was in the battery boxes. Given they refuse to ID the battery's its safe to say, they never existed.
The GOLD is a major part of the CARROT to get MALAY/CHINA to play along with the HEIST. Or perhaps the GOLD is bullshit, most plausible is the story that the Al-que-CIA-DUH had sold the CHINESE a captured US drone system still in the box. This is plausible cuz it then makes the chinese silent.
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The way to look at the heist is to look at the players, and who were the players? INMARSAT and SERCO-GROUP.
Inmarsat run's the satellites and was telling everybody where to go, SERCO-GROUP run's the first and 3rd worlds ATC center's, so the plane could be easily controlled because all COMM has to go through SERCO&INMARSAT.
Inmarsat told the world to only search AUSTAILIA. SERCO owns the politican and prisons in AUSTRAILIA.
SERCO-GROUP developed the BUAP ( boeing autopilot ) used to take over the plane, SERCO-HONEYWELL developed the tech.
SERCO-GROUP in UK has been tagging criminals in UK, and wanted to put a CHIP in everybody, and OBAMA had contracted OBAMACARE to use SERCO to CHIP all USA consumers of MEDICAL.
The only problem for SERCO-GROUP is only one company on earth made such a chip, and that was the FREESCALE KL-02.
Not unlike when BILL GATES sold the OS to IBM, that he didn't own, in this case SERCO told OBAMA "Yes we can CHIP every american", ... and then SERCO stole the chip.
FACTUAL HISTORY, GATES STOLE DOS ( microsoft operating system and sold it to IBM ).
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Best of all in this twisted story is that INMARSAT and SERCO-GROUP are owned by the BUSH FAMILY.
You HIT The NAIL!
But my thumb was sitting on top of the nail on this one...
High level ops don't fly commercial unless they absolutely have to and then, they never travel in groups. Standard policy for all corporations and government. The risk of losing the entire team is too great.
However, if someone wanted to eliminate the entire team they would put all of them on one plane and preferably with an airline that's not US based.
Instead of assuming that someone out there knows everything and is calling the shots, what would be the case if there if there was no "conspiracy" and no one really knows what actually happened?
Why is that idea so farfetched? Haven't things already exceeded degrees of complexity as to be unknowable?
Here's a dime, call me when they find it.
Oh, wait...
Snakes were on this motherfucking plane.
Because there is enough public heat on them. Any invovlement of theirs gets leaked, and I imagine there would be big problems from the public. All those people who say "i have nothing to hide" would no longer be on the fence.
Love those bizarre incidents that never occur again -- like 3 steel framed buildings collapsing on the same day and never before or after. Or a 747 with sparks during fuel transfer between tanks -- never before, never after, no FAA Air Directives to address the (non)problem. How about lone gunmen assassins?
Actually, following the 747 shootdown off Long Island NY,
I seem to rcall some FAA Air Directive to fix the low voltage spark "problem",
presumably as part of the coverup pretense about what really happened.
Similar to blaming the collapse of the WTC towers on supposedly faulty fire insulation material on the steel structure.
Thanks for the info. I don't recall reading or hearing about that AD.
Nonexistent fire insulation. Removed from plans during construction. Asbestos.
I thought the existence of asbestos was the reason why the owner allowed the buildings to be demolished,
by the conspiracy,
to avoid the liability and the cost of asbestos removal for the owner.
One tower had it on the beams about a third of the way up. The port authority, a government entity basically, owned the buildings, or built them anyway.
It was a bullshit directive. Instead of allowing the scavenge pumps in the center tank to flicker on and off, as they are likely to do when in flight and low fuel in center tank, engineers were directed to turn off tank pumps after first sign of low fuel lights coming on. Complete fucking nonsense but I'm sure it checked the square for the feds and giving cover to the original story.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/27/nyregion/faa-orders-safety-change-in-b...
Remote control hijack ?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/24/mh370solved/
A good story teller suggests:
Chinese sub-launched missile shootdown ?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/15/the-shootdown-of-malaysian-airli...
Methinks Gen. Tom McInerney, USAF (Ret) called it right. That plane is sitting on the ground somewhere being fitted for another mission.
So, it's in Israel?
Diego Garcia en route to Israel perhaps...
The Fed has it under Mariner Eccles.
Near Diego Garcia, not far west I recall is the deepest trench in all of the Indian Ocean, its where DG has been dumping its garbage for years, ... too deep for most technology to venture,
If I were running this operation, I would have sent the plane to DG by BUAP, and off-loaded the Freescale engineer's, and kept the passengers on DOPE, DOPE the crew too, the USA passenger they kept him, as he was clearly a CIA/MOSSAD agent, but a week later when he found out all the passengers were dead, he called out with his cell (fact). Yep, an IBM engineer who just happens to have an MOSSAD girlfriend, and he's working IBM-CHINA on BIG-SERVER-TECHNOLOGY, ... clearly the guy to debrief the Freescale tech-team, on whether you want to be resettled or DIE.
Within say the first 24 hours of landing in DG the plane by remote was sent with all DOPE'd passengers and crew aboard to the sea over the deep-trench where the plane was carefully laid down to rest at the bottom of the ocean.
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We don't know if the BENGAL-BAY story is true, but the tech is true I was doing 'REMOTE sensing' for BIG-OIL in the 1970's and we were doing shit like that like for micro-deposits of METAL, and various stuff on the seabed. It's possible, but me think the bay-of-bengal is just another story to take people away from DG.
I think that the 'deep trench' near DG is close enough that the MIL can keep most people away for NATIONAL SECURITY reasons.
there is a dublicate of 370 ready to go to make a false flag
but something went wrong with the original plan and now the governments involved want to hide all the ends
Pilots do not talk continuously to the air traffic controller. The "edits" are probably just chatter with other planes that were in the area that was edited out since it was not relevfant. Nothing sinister about it.
Time to move on. Nothing to see here.
Bunk. Why edit it at all? Its not as if there are days or weeks of useless "chatter" on a tape. We are talking minutes not days. Especially in a situation such as this where there is little evidence of what happened to this plane.
Wrong. There have been several experts in this field who have confirmed the editing. This is not a "conspiracy theory". While the analysts did not attritube anything sinister to the edits, they confirmed changes in noise floor levels, audio quality, background noise, including someone shuffling papers, but only during certain sections.
You are absolutely mistaken here.
Even if it was, editing the tape on fuels speculation that the 'official' story is a lie. So its either gross incompetence (after all it is gov's) or its something more sinister. Either way, its inexcusable.
Hey, this stuff keeps us looking at the wrong hand while the magician fondles our daughter.
is that a rabbit in your hat or are you just happy to fondle me?
I'd like to hear this "chatter".
Bullshit, pilots don't just "chatter" while flying. They monitor 121.5 and the ATC freq when in range. They don't even monitor the HF because of SEL/CAL which automatically dings when ATC wants to speak with them. The usual reason to come up and "chatter' is to find out about turbulence at different altitudes or inquiring about when a specific flight will be ready to climb (thus vacating an altitude that the inquiring flight can then climb to). The pilots aren't just shooting the shit with other pilots, they can do that with the guys they are flying with.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1756.htm
all main-stream'd newsy-narratives, delivered as cliff-hanging episodes
are intentional implanted stories designed for control.
if one did not understand this in 2001, then it's most likely
too late.
who controls the media, controls the narratives, controls the minds.
Remember what Orwell taught us:
"Those who control the present, control the past. And those who control the past, control the future."
Dang I thought it was Rage Against The Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ
BINGO! the story of the missing plane broke simultaneously across every news outlet all over the globe.
conditioning!
That racist NBA coach probably shot it down.
FREE STERLING