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LA County Sheriff Admits Big Brother Is Here "But We Kept It Pretty Hush Hush"
"This is the future if nothing is done to stop it," is the ominous way The Atlantic describes the recent Big Brother tactics used by LA County Sheriffs to "police" areas such as Compton. Residents were unaware ("A lot of people do have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big Brother, so to mitigate those kinds of complaints we basically kept it pretty hush hush")that, as the police stated, "we literally watched all of Compton during the times that we were flying, so we could zoom in anywhere within the city of Compton and follow cars and see people," as they trialled a new system which if adopted, would mean Americans can be policed like Iraqis and Afghanis under occupation. As The Atlantic concludes, the sheriff didn't conclude that the "wide area surveillance" wouldn't be like Big Brother after all, just that Big Brother capabilities would help to solve more crimes... so why not tryout mass surveillance?
In a secret test of mass surveillance technology, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department sent a civilian aircraft over Compton, California, capturing high-resolution video of everything that happened inside that 10-square-mile municipality.
Compton residents weren't told about the spying, which happened in 2012. "We literally watched all of Compton during the times that we were flying, so we could zoom in anywhere within the city of Compton and follow cars and see people," Ross McNutt of Persistence Surveillance Systems told the Center for Investigative Reporting, which unearthed and did the first reporting on this important story. The technology he's trying to sell to police departments all over America can stay aloft for up to six hours. Like Google Earth, it enables police to zoom in on certain areas. And like TiVo, it permits them to rewind, so that they can look back and see what happened anywhere they weren't watching in real time.
If it's adopted, Americans can be policed like Iraqis and Afghanis under occupation...
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Sgt. Douglas Iketani acknowledges that his agency hid the experiment to avoid public opposition. "This system was kind of kept confidential from everybody in the public,"he said. "A lot of people do have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big Brother, so to mitigate those kinds of complaints we basically kept it pretty hush hush." That attitude ought to get a public employee summarily terminated.
"Our first initial thought was, oh, Big Brother, we're going to have a camera flying over us. But with the wide area surveillance you would have the ability to solve a lot of the unsolvable crimes with no witnesses, no videotape surveillance, no fingerprints."
Notice that he didn't conclude that the "wide area surveillance" wouldn't be like Big Brother after all, just that Big Brother capabilities would help to solve more crimes.
So why not try them out?
He later explains that while the public may think its against this, we'll get used to it:
I'm sure that once people find out this experiment went on they might be a little upset. But knowing that we can't see into their bedroom windows, we can't see into their pools, we can't see into their showers. You know, I'm sure they'll be okay with it. With the amount of technology out in today's age, with cameras in ATMs, at every 7/11, at every supermarket, pretty much every light poll, all the license plate cameras, the red light cameras, people have just gotten used to being watched.
Many Americans elect their own sheriffs. This is the future if nothing is done to stop them.
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Our enemy is the government.
Peaceful, law abiding citizens need to be worried when the people they hire, like to police, to protectect them have the audacity to spend money for something like this.
How often is a cop there when you really need them? During a break in, aussault, rape, or murder?
The criminals don't do crimes in donut places and the cops only get there after it is done.
The "police" are an occupying force.
What "victim" does the state collect payment for?
I just want to meet one.
RIPS
There may be a "reduction in crime", whatever that terrocrat double speak means, but this is far out weighed by the increase in taxfeeder on taxpayer violence.
if only there were, like, some sort of big "data center" or "surveillance cloud" or something so that they could store all that footage and stuff so that they could data-mine it for informations whenever they need to
mostly for search-and-rescue
like if there is a fire and they want to know who is inside the building and so they check to see who drove those cars
because they will want to be able to get everyone out safely and swiftly
I don't know what sheriffs like more...
Surveillance toys... Or military toys...
Both given to them by DHS.
1. If it is so important to spy on J6P, isn't it even more important for "the people" to have live feeds to see what "The Powers" are up to? Who advises the President? What if they are feeding the Prez false info? How do we ensure that the Chief of Police isn't cosying up to organized crime? How do we know our politicians are sober on the job? If it is dangerous to be doped up / drunk in a car, how much worse is it to be smashed when you're running a whole country?
2a. How will celebrities deal with the "unauthorized photography"?
2b. How long until the paparzzi "buy drone footage", errrr ... "subsidize the spy cameras" (..." in a special community joint venture with MSMTabloid and local cash-strapped police")?
The L.A. Sheriff along with most sheriffs and major city police chiefs have long ago been bought off by elements of the C.I.A. and F.B.I. The LA area police have distinguished themselves as the Crown Turd Criminals of fascist policing. It's only the well-meaning, low-enders in those agencies that don't know that as well as some Boy Scouts in upper management. The War Criminal staged slaughters in Iraq, Afghanistan and so forth have merely been a prelude; giant economic rape rooms and inhuman fascist testing grounds for the high tech NAZI/Stalinist bullshit befalling the U.S. Most people will put up with it because they have been dumbed down. Because the Corporate Fascist Entity is spraying the atmosphere with lithium. Because the municipal water is being drugged. Because the food is poisoned. Because the public education system has been subverted. Because psychotronic warfare is being waged against the American people through their television sets, cellphones, and other electronic devices. Because the government controlled T.V. is manned by traitors regurgitating, parroting the lies… We have what is left of our military. Time they start thinking of fulfilling their lawful responsibilities under the Constitution.
Am I getting through?
Only one who got through to them recently was named Dorner. He scared the shit out of them by demanding real accountability, exposing where he saw police abuse and then hunting them. He fucked up too but he more than scared them. Just 1 of him. Now just imagine when the next 10 go off crazy all at the same time.
that thar sounds a lots like 'oversight'. Round these here parts we calls that ter'ism. Come on now down this way to the FEMA hotel & we'll explains it to ya all proper-like.
people get what they deserve.
... and little kids get molested by priests.
in a sense he is correct.
If people were educated (and I don't mean a liberal arts degree, i mean actually educated about how things work in the world, what money really is and what a federal note is, etc.), then they would rise up and stop electing corrupt oligarchs, or people who abuse them.
Remember, over 90% of Americans think Congress should get fired, but that their congressman is A-OK.
The police are really just cowboys, there to herd TPTB's livestock and make sure they stay in their corrals and provide for their lords as needed.
We have met the livestock and they is us.
Too often the cops are the ones you need to be worried about. Waaay too many are not psychologically fit for the job. Here in affluent Westchester we just had an off duty NYC cop firing randomly at a car - putting someone in intensive care - after a night of drinkoing. The cop claims he remembers nothing. The arraignment was closed to the public (and media) contrary to law. While clearly drinking and having refused a breathalyzer test, they did NOT charge the cop with DUI (an automatic charge for the rest of us peons if we refused a test). I believe he was simply charged with assault - while anyone else would have had the charges piled on.
A few years back a cop killed someone in the Bronx. No charges filed but what was not made public is that the cop had had problems in his previous job, had been on desk duty for 'overreacting' and macing someone over a parking issue and the killing occurred on his first day off desk duty. Other cops think the guy was clearly a problem, should never have been let off desk duty and should not have been hired in the first place.
Too many police departments around here are filled with the juvenile deelinquents you went to high school with. The cops got to know these kids way too well and in a warped way that familiarity turned into acareer path when those kids couldn't get anything else. The police chief whewre I grew up was a real piece of work - drinking on lunch and dumb as a rock - too typical of soem departments where civil service exams are never taken - it's all who someone knows. Those same departments have 90% of their retirees on full disability - this in suburban departments where demands are minimal.
cops are going to have their hands full if the food stamp program, which is computer software based, goes down even in part.
Sounds like good tv series: pigs vs the EBT freeloaders - let em have at it. News @ 11.
wait till they find out that's also their pension plan!
Is you a day drinkah?
You likes youself some donuts and beatin' folk?
Well mah boy does I has a job fa yoo!
Y'alls now gonna be a poh-leese officah!
"The "police" are an occupying force."
Yes they are.
Anywhere you see police is a martial law jurisdiction, which means every incorporated city is a martial law jurisdiction where the constitution and bill of rights don't apply.
An incorporated city is just like a military base in a legal sense, and city police are military police in a legal sense.
Incorporated cities are unconstitutional impositions of martial law during peace time.
But "peace time" is debatable. All presidents since WWII have declared a "state of national emergency" by executive order.
Not quite a martial law constitution is null and void, but you are on the right track.
Is is corporate law, one that you have to enter into.
We at a national level are in a state of emergency AFAIK.
But why would it matter if you were in an un-incorporated area if the SOE, and martial law, were a national event?
See?
It is simpy about contract law. Even sheriffs enforce contract law nowadays.
Incorpoated cities are........................WTF?
pods
All Rights Reserved in all places and at all times and I deny all, without prejudice.
http://www.copblock.org/5257/all-rights-reserved-ucc1-308-or-its-just-bu...
Argus camera system. They can quite literally watch and record an entire city all at once in real time. Zoom in and track and follow anyone all day long, and go back and watch previous days.
1.8 gigapixle wide area surveillance drone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfSbdAC-3k
Can they track a big airplane that crashes in the ocean?
Why is it flying over LA?
The real terrifying criminals collude in Washington D.C.
Ok but put a camera in every banks Ceo office and prosecute
wow, he revealed how to build it.
Because they're owned and operated by the real criminals. The real criminals need to know where the loot is and how well it's defended.
No way. That's unpossible.
Baby steps. They gotta figure out how to track thing flying inbound to Manhattan, and the Pentagon.
I would love to know the average response time of police per state. Further, I would love to compare that metric against states that are more fire arm friendly against those that aren't. It's farily obvious to anyone that would think for half a second that those who cary firearms are less likely to be a victim of fatal robberies. But what are the real statistics I wonder? Take Chicago for instance, one of the most stringent against firearms - what are the actual statistics for prevented homicides BY POLICE (very important distinction)? I'm sure there is bountiful research and I would very much appreciate a helpful point in the right direction. Thanks you sexy fuckers :)
Don't know about states, but I've read more than once the average response time in Detroit is around 90 minutes.
I thought that was the case until an incident in Long Island where cops bursting into a hostage situation basically shot and killed the hostage!
We need tp develop more technology to carry or wear that thwarts drone surveillance.
Seems like a good start to me:
http://ahprojects.com/projects/stealth-wear/
Ans: RPG
Can they hide your shadow?
I love when the cops are called "first responders". They're not.
This is true even if they arrive on scene during a "crime in progress".
You and I are the first responders. Be ready.
Our enemy is our ability to let ourselves be enslaved by idoltry. Government or no government when something is forced on you in an unvoluntary manner it is idoltry by the entity forcing it upon you. The second part is the fact language is symbolic and the same idoltry can be described using multiple symbolism (our understanding of world is described through symbollism) for the same idol you can use deception to get people to accept an idol to worship they wouldn't otherwise and rob idols they derive power from of their power by changing it's symbolism through deception. As long as you control the idol you are the enslaver as opposed to being the enslaved. Nothing changes until people stop the idol worship on all levels. The same cycles of idoltry will just keep persisting over and over in different iterations until that is broken once and for all. Then we progress as a race. Until then nothing changes...
Truth is the system is how you describe it is how the deception takes place, you can obfuscate all you want but the absolute truths that the system are built on and then can be used to prove conditional truths can't be broken period or else the whole thing ceases to exist. When you build systems describing absolute truths incorrectly through lies what happens when the deception is uncovered....
Simple example why is 1 + 1 = 2.
The system is straightfoward for a natural number system.
You start with something in this case we call it symbollically 1 and add it to itself.
1 + 1 = 2
Then we iterate the step with the result
2 + 1 = 3
so on and so forth until infinity, 5 absolute rules fall out of that if broken the system ceases to be the system.
If you write 2 + 1 = 7 that is just symbolic deception the underlying truths of system you are describing can't be violated no matter how much symbollic deception you try use.
That is how they enslave you and keep you enslaved. It ain't any more complicated than that.
You can't eradicate Stupid, nor Sheeple, by laws or force of will or wishful thinking.
Gummint: Time for ctrl-alt-del
Does this shit really make people feel safer?
Does this shit really make people feel safer?
Sure! TV says so!
/sarc
~" This system was kept confidential from everybody in the public," he said. "People have a problem with the eye in the sky, the Big Brother, so we kept it hush hush."~
FIXED!!!!
If you let the cops do it, they'll be walking in random people's house with guns drawn on a daily basis to "prevent and catch crime".
There's no end to this BS jusification.
Just like after the Boston M. Bombing.
At the time,I thought, no way would they be walking around my place without a warrant. I mentioned this to my sister in law (she's from Portland,OR). She gave me that puzzled look like there was something mentally wrong with me.
Bingo! The Skinner box in every living room, glorifies the surveillance state. My mother and sister watch this horssshit every goddamed day.
You don't feel safe? LOL, http://youtu.be/scmOYyBRdy8
File under: about to meet the same fate as Mike Ruppert
Soon it will be said "well, you know, all the cops were getting shot at constantly, so we had to just, like you know, just elimnate entire cities with an airstrike. Hey if you're not anti-cop, you shouldn't be living in cities that are shooting at cops. There have been so many cities bombed that people have just gotten used to being bombed."
Hey if you're not anti-cop, you shouldn't be living in cities that are shooting at cops.
Team America! Fuck yeah!
This is the Grozny principle as practiced by Russia in Checnya. Surround a town with artillery and rain hell. Rubble it. The Falluja principle applies Geneva convention principles and JAG rules of engagement to waste Marines going house to house in a city that hates the west down to the cellular level, supposedly to only hurt combatants.
Your comment reminded me of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_%28comics%29
Check it out if you like a good storyline and great artwork... but, well, yeah you know, that's just like my opinion, man.
"FUCK THE POLICE...."
NWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj1uoJiVqdA
Consfearacy by Slayer
I need to redefine
All the things I hate today
Politics that fail
From a President derailed
I hate the shit economy
It might as well be sodomy
I know that in the end
I'm expected to pretend
But I can't relate
To your verbal idiocy
No one's in control
When the government's the enemy
So light the fuse
Impose your views
Consfearacy
Is anarchy
Actions of hostility
Breeds conformity
Annihilation will begin
Extermination from within
So light the fuse
Impose your views
Consfearacy
Insanity
I need to redefine
How I see the world today
Seems that all the war
Didn't even up the score
It's only mind pollution
There is no resolution
Still I know that in the end
I'm expected to pretend
That I can't think for myself
Blame it all on someone else
Half hearted smile
While you look the other way
I can't relate
To your verbal idiocy
No one's in control
When the government's the enemy
Enemy
So light the fuse
Impose your views
Consfearacy
Complacency is your demise
That last lyric hits the nail on the head.
the worm turns, the noose tightens and we still cant believe it will happen to us.
Only two reason for the government (gun and badge thugs here) to watch us:
1) Know who has had enough of their treason and may be a threat to them.
and/or
2) Who has wealth to steal and where it may be hidding.
According to Alan Dershowitz, "motive matters," so as long as law enforcement has our best interests at heart (and of course they do), pretty much any means they use to realize the common good is hunky dory.
Let's all take a moment and silently confess the deepest of love for our dear leaders.
>sniff<
Isn't Dershowitz from Ashkenazi?!
Dersh is a dueche.
First rule in data analytics: Properly frame the problem.
No Mother Fuckers, I am not "Okay with it"........
Someone recently called me "anti-cop." I replied that I am not "anti-cop," but anti-thug, which just appears to be "anti-cop."
Tell them you are an Abolitionist. Opposed to all forms of slavery.
It is hard to explain to someone the basics of Liberty and the Constitution and how they are criminals. So, I like to use the actions and attitudes of the criminals themselves.
Things like showing them proof that Sandy Hook and Boston were really hoaxes works well. Footage from Waco showing how the treasonous criminals burned, shot and blew up the Davidian men, women and children is also good. However, nothing replaces the unease that I can generate with videos of the gun and badge thugs' brutality. And more and more of the local sheeple are beginning to experience the bad attitudes and theft of these thugs making the sheeple that much more open to my message.
After I have them hooked, I then like to transition to how the local gun and badge thugs are federalized and therefore represent the DC US more than their local thieves.
And then it's off to the races: "Good morning, welcome to the police state...
i need to buy more Ammo..
Also hoodies, ski masks, dark sunglasses and axes to chop up the power grid.........
I noticed that article did not mention what kind of weapon systems these drones will have on them. I know... it's "Hush Hush"
Probably Hellfire school and wedding party killer missiles.
I'll try to stay optimistic about this stuff. New technology is potentially a threat to freedom, but it could greatly improve law enforcement if used correctly. We don't need cameras on every street and we don't need probes in everone's ass. A database of faces and fingerprints might not be too terrible. It would be hard to use a stolen credit card if the card relied on a scan of your eyes or a fingerprint. Identity theft would be a non issue.
The down side is that thieves might cut your finger off when they steal your credit card.
"I'll try to stay optimistic about this stuff."
yeah, they probably said the same thing on their way to Auschwitz....
Disclaimer: I hate the Zionist entity known as ISraHell...
If you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear.
They hate us for our freedom.
And if you have nothing to hide, we may as well mount these cameras in your shower and in your bedroom...
It is not the technology, but the why and psychology behind the why.
A camera placed in the nursery can be good. One placed in the woman's locker room, not so good; at least for the women.
"I have a cam on my guillotine."
I will answer the "why". The why is because there is money involved, and governments like to spend money. Spending money allows prosperity to flow from the well of borrowed wealth.
When the petrodollar is broken, all bets are off.
So much fail for one paragraph.
That's what this was invented for: quadruple facepalm
Try this....instead of making retarded comments on zh, use your free time to read up a little on the way the world really works.
Maybe you can take over for Jay Carney when he quits to work at MSNBC or K Street. Fuck You asshole.
HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY, spungo
I actually thought about what you said, then decided you're either a punk kid who has never really lived in freedom, or some stupid older gov-loving fuck who is part of the enemy and therefore deserves one shot right between the eyes.
it would be easy as pie. Just insert the proper ident biometrics into the database & you can frame anyone and now all the sucker sheeple judges and juries will think a person is guilty who was never anywhere near any crime scene, has no idea what's going on.
Cattle.
mmooooooooooooooooooooo.
And how long do people think it"s going to be before the crime solving eye in the sky is going to be used for the purpose of perpetrating crimes and for commercial advantage for those in the right positions?
We will be tracked and eventually a chip will be inserted into us which will track our every heart beat if not our every thought.
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated.......
Press release in January 2020:
We've been able to cut costs because the cameras identify when it's black on black crime. Our official stance is that we don't like black people, so we choose not to send police to those incidents.
Most definitely rayciss.
spungo:I'll try to stay optimistic about this stuff. New technology is potentially a threat to freedom, but it could greatly improve law enforcement if used correctly. We don't need cameras on every street and we don't need probes in everone's ass. A database of faces and fingerprints might not be too terrible. It would be hard to use a stolen credit card if the card relied on a scan of your eyes or a fingerprint. Identity theft would be a non issue.
The down side is that thieves might cut your finger off when they steal your credit card.
So you're ok with 24 hr surveillance. Phhhuckyea (Not).
And your one worry is some shitbag who's gonna cut your finger off to use your CC. I have to politely ask, are you on some wacky meds or something?
Spungo is a new sock puppet. He gets paid for reminding us how much our owners care for us.
This is where endless taxpayer funded wars in the ME get us. They are nothing more than a proving ground for this type of bullshit.........
The people on their way to Auschwitz were asking if this company was going to pay a larger dividend next quarter.
The real solution to crime is FEWER cameras and more guns. Someone jacks your necklace, you pull your .44 mag and shoot them in the spine. No cameras saw the thing, the witnesses agree you did the right thing, problem solved.
You wear a necklace?
I went to a derby party this weekend, during the national anthem, people were standing up, hand over heart and singing along. Pictures of soldiers, security, flashing on the screen. The public demonstration at the derby? Same thing.
People are perfectly happy with their slave status, as long as they can experience some degree of comfort. They don't care about the totalitarian state.
This will never bother the vast majority of Americans. They are well conditioned and unwilling to challenge the status quo. Better find a safe place out of the way, because these idoits will be waving the flag when their little community gets its' very own tank.
Well the majority were happy with King George as well. How'd that turn out?
I suggest you read the "Tories", most american colonist were indifferent. 25% fought as rebels and 25% as tories. More Americans killed Americans than the British. If you want small numbers, look to the Russians, but they did have the full backing of the zionist jews. Still, a very small number compared to the population.
Of course, most of the rebels were merchantilists, whom fought over taxes and market share. One group of upper class wannabes against the real upper crust british. Which is why most of the time Washington kept the british hemmed in and neither army fought the other. The guerilla battles were ruthless though.
In the end, we replaced one upper class with another. That is how it turned out. Then the Rothschilds successfully fomented a coup through banking and fractional reserve banking. Now, we are just corporate slaves. Kind of makes you feel patriotic, huh?
"I went to a derby party this weekend, during the national anthem, people were standing up, hand over heart and singing along. "
Next time, remain sitting. You know it's time to leave the country when security questions why you were sitting.
I did sit. I don't do pledges and I don't sing anthems. But I'm the extreme exception, unfortunately.
It doesn't matter how many cameras are placed in the sky, on poles, in stores ect...There will always be criminals commiting crimes and the LEO will always go after the easiest targets to fleece for revenue.
Look at how many cameras are in fucking banks, and yet the banksters still rob us blind!
When technology is unproductive, newer technology surfaces to counter.
Like radar and a radar detector.
Could be something like snipping wires or interfering with wireless communication - the geeks already know what to do - it just hasn't gone mainstream - yet.
Oh I get it you fucking Slimacon Valley tech fuckhead
Sell us a wire cutter to cut the wire that you developed and sold to the fucking police.
Any wonder you assholes get beaten up in SF
A milliwatt here, a milliwatt there, pretty soon you get some serious CCD damage.
http://newdiodelaser.com/fibercoupledmodule.htm
CCD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge-coupled_device
Well now, as a new start with (Ipresume the BLM again as ala Bundy Ranch in Nevada, there apparantly another get to in Blanding, UTah as of early this morning) . Of course on a Sunday, when the MSM is soundly asleep, --- some more
Blanding is south of Montecillo just west of the Colo. border. Primarily a small Indian town just noth of the 4 state corner. It would appear that the Federales are dead game on starting a confrontation with the folks out west.
IT is now time for all of us to begin organizing a state by state militia. No you are not going to be excluded from these bastards until there is blood, Hopefully lots of it blue blood. This has long ceased to be a game--all of us are now in the guns sights of these looney fucks in D.C. and Wall St.
This little party is rapidly becoming a a potential Civil War if the mericans don't get their head out of their asses and we don't start hangin people by their ankles and let them explode. Milestones
It's pretty clear who the terrorists. I think the sad part is you Americans are so used to this you don't even blink anymore as they shove that baton up your ass
The only thing missing is the agent provokateur to light the fuse
us Americans? Speak for yourself. Britian is far more camera happy than the US.
ZH fail, again.
What was intrusive about the surveillance in 1984 was that it blanketed private spaces. You could not do anything without being observed, from birth to death.
What is being discussed here is the equivalent of putting a policeman on every corner, just a lot cheaper and less likely to result in police bribe-demanding and brutality.
that is
until they take your wife and kids away to the re-education camps.
But you go ahead and cheer as they take away your liberty
fucking drone
Debate is easy when you just make shit up out of thin air, isn't it Mr. Rider?
Well you are waving the flag and pretending to be rational after all.
Ever heard of a webcam, or a smart T.V, or a fucking iphone........??
exactly
that is what they fear most. civilian surveilance of each other which may catch the Man in the act
I'm totally for sousveillance. The watchers need watching too. Courts have struck down laws prohibiting people from videoing cops across the US, not that you'd ever hear about a liberty-positive development on ZH.
LOL. Better put a sheet over your toaster, it could be spying on you too. Make it soundproof just in case.
Damn, you are a doorknob of the utmost stupidity.
Just about no one anymore is actually using devices that would resonate with the coils in an actual toaster (not toaster oven), and if they are, they're vtech style phones already broadcasting through the walls regardless.
As for actual devices that spy it's been proven that cell phones & webcams on windows computers absolutely will be turned on against your will & the only way to stop this is to pull the power, or use Linux for the computer with the web cam, for a desktop pull the webcam until you need it (I never have needed one) and for the phone you should keep the camera covered at all times until you need it.
The microphone can & will be activated against your will to spy on you / your vicinity. That's proven fact, zero conspiracy.
Quite a few youtube videos show you how to rootkit a phone to show in debug mode who the transmissions go to - frequently it's the manufacturer, even if you have no carrier service signed up at the time. Keystrokes, sound, the works.
Ya, I remember seeing those things. Just never in my home. They're not permitted inside & I refuse to ever, ever own any of those items.
"ZH fail, again..."
Actually I'm dropping in to thank you for proving the point that trillions of dollars, millions of bureaucrats, and academia's liberal control over this country has utterly failed.
Even illiterate citizens during the Civil War, then Prohibition, knew how evil organized government hellbent on controlling a population is.
Now, we spend trillions and end up with non-critical thinking sheeple that distracted and happy as their futures are obliterated under criminalizing everything and enforcement through a police state.
Thanks again.
And when the trucks roll up with promises of "climb aboard, we'll take you and house and feed you," I can be happy to know they will be all full up with "citizens" like you.
Enjoy your continued incarceration dude. A gilded cage is still a prison. Too bad you can't understand that.
Right, the mark of critical thinking is believing that people who can wake up and go anywhere in the world, tomorrow, without consulting the US govt; can criticize the government in the bluntest terms possible without any fear of retribution (which country is ZH hosted in again?); and have virtually the only right to bear arms left in the world, are in a "gilded cage".
There are a lot of problems with the US today, and a lot of monsters in govt and elsewhere who would drool at the possibility of turning it into another Venezuela. But they're far, far from that goal and are getting pushback every step of the way. It's still the freeest country on earth.
Free as compared to what? when? virtually all the meaningful Amendments to the US Constitution have been gutted, save the 2nd. Its like smoking. Tell a kid about the deleterious effects of smoking at 16 - doesn't see it and doesn't feel it. Remind him again at 25, and given its marginal effect (day by day), he sees and feels no different. Even at 35, and even 45. But by 50, he has emphysema and has no idea how he got it. Yet the compounded cummulative effect and deleterious impact of the smoking from 16 to 50 is huge. That is how the erosion of liberty occurs - one regulation - one by-law - one prohibition at a time. I don't find much favor with comparing the US to other shit hole fucked up places in the world run by similar type ass clowns and meglomaniac sociopaths. Relative position does not make right the absolute decay of what once was the economic powerhouse of the world - through the debasement of currency, constitutional rights et al higher order principles of moral and ethical behaviour. Freedom is a relative term and while it might appear constant, its absolute measure is almost zero.
Fail for you.
#1 it's offensive to put police on every corner: that's a police-state projecting corruption & robbery of freedom by an out of control government
#2 even a policeman on every corner couldn't see vertically down into your yards and into all your windows all the time from every aerial angle
#3 infrared, ultra-violet & microwave absolutely let all roofs & walls be turned INVISIBLE, TRANSPARENT to the drones, which no police ever have legal authority to use, but ask yourself: is it being used now?
That's it, I'm canceling my family's move to Compton.
Drones coming soon to a city near you. Just one more reason to go rural. They can't watch the whole fucking country (yet).
Or you could invest in a roof.
A roof costs a whole lot of money and ruins the pleasure of sunbaking by a private pool.
And how long before infrared and other technology mounted on the drones makes the covering of a roof about as covering as clothing to an airport nude scanner?
I WANT them to see me nude...
Ruin their damn lunch.
when the criminals dont fear being locked up (like now) the cameras are useless. soon the best and safest place to be will be in jail or prison as outside is going to be a fvkin flying lead circus.
Prisons only work so long as the prisoners play along. Once the prisoners stop complying and start rioting, all bets are off.
Same thing applies to entire countries that are open air prisons. Once the charades end, the CO's are dead meat.
Prisoners don't riot when they're restrained or doped up enough they can't move.
They also don't riot when they're in solitary. Any prison riot can be prevented when the rules change to prohibit gathering.
So we really don't need a police force with tall the pensions and medical care .....
And why is a U2 flying over LA, about which nobody would have known 'cept it screwed up the computers.
But knowing that we can't see into their bedroom windows, we can't see into their pools, we can't see into their showers. You know, I'm sure they'll be okay with it.
It appears someone is lying again, or is unaware of current EMF techonology that can quite literally see through walls.
Imagine the money to be made by bribing politicians with those tapes.
YeeeeeeeHaaaaaaa
Know your enemy!
Yea it's Tulpa and Spungo
Try recording the actions of every law enforcement officer on those same public streets, no problem, right?
Tulpa: "Right, the mark of critical thinking is believing that people who can wake up and go anywhere in the world, tomorrow, without consulting the US govt; can criticize the government in the bluntest terms possible without any fear of retribution (which country is ZH hosted in again?); and have virtually the only right to bear arms left in the world, are in a "gilded cage".
There are a lot of problems with the US today, and a lot of monsters in govt and elsewhere who would drool at the possibility of turning it into another Venezuela. But they're far, far from that goal and are getting pushback every step of the way. It's still the freest country on earth."
Bulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt!
You're a fucking ore to be mined, a pig in a pen.
Go to some little country where there's a dude in a dug out canoe. He wakes up in the morning, hops in his ride and catches his families food. No taxes, no fishing permit, no license to operate his boat. He's as free as the wind. Go to another country where there are sheep herders who never ever have any interaction with "Government"
same thing, providing for their families just like their families have done generation after generation....
you're a goddamned slave, you just don't realize it.
What flavor k00laid are we having today?
There's like 5000+ laws, rules and regulations written every year and imposed on your ass....
That's a fantasy. Anyone who has anything worth taking is going to have to deal with a local chieftain/warlord/govt/random thieves. Subsistence farming isn't for me, and it's unlikely to be a fit for people who sit around arguing on the Internet either.
My family farm won't be providing"subsistence" to your kind of folk.
We know everybody that lives around us so no,we won't be answering to "a local cheifton/warlord/govt/random theives." Know why asshole?
Because guys like you will look pretty " random". to us.
That's not a fantasy.
The end of America the Home of the Free.
"But knowing that we can't see into their bedroom windows, we can't see into their pools, we can't see into their showers. You know, I'm sure they'll be okay with it."
What he is saying is that we can see into their bedroom windows, we can see into their pools, we can see into their showers!
Liars often voluntarily deny acts for which they were never accused.
Tuco
How can it not see into our pools? Which word game is he playing?
I'd like to see a People's Legislative Police Force charged solely with watching politicians, going through their people owned files, people owned computers; cellephones, random body searched, breathalyzers, piss tests......24/7/365
Iketani has a pretty nice place. We will all keep an eye on it. For his own protection...
Google = GoggleEyes
You can't uninstall chrome on phones, it links photos on your phone to your computer without permission.
It sees into what you do.
Google is SPYWARE
Move to Western Australia. Big brother is here too, but with so much natural resources, and so few people, Big Brother doesn't really do much at all. The people here are too busy making money and living life.
Australian govt has been widely criticised for its draconian web filtering. Big brother has been doing rather well in Oz as I understand it.
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AIsight
Computers that 'see" and learn through video surveillance.
Yikes.
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Where is my fucking luggage you rat ass bastards. How can big brother lose it from LAX to Palm Springs when the luggage was checked in at CHS? Fucking morons
/sarc.. I really can care less. Just making a factual point.
If the new technology isn't a threat to one's freedom, why was it done on the qt?
Those eye in the skies are all find and dandy until a crowd of pissed off people decide they have had enough and eventually storm the control rooms.... then all that gee whiz tech crap gets burned to the ground...
Long smoke bombs.
PLEASE get your heads out into the light ... Look & see:
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1242076