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4 Ukraine Soliders Killed, 40 Wounded As Fighting In East Escalates

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There was a humorous moment on the tape overnight when news hit that Germany was set to propose new (and improved) Geneva talks on Ukraine, according to German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. According to Bloomberg, the aim of new Geneva talks would be to correct failure of parties to adhere to accords forged in first talks in city. "New Geneva talks would seek to boost OSCE presence in Ukraine to ensure compliance with April accord, with observers also acting as mediators in local conflicts." Yes, utopia is great, and here's to hoping that once, just once, Russia will ignore the fact that it has every geostrategic advantage in the ongoing conflict and will pull back. In the meantime, here is what happened overnight as fighting in the Ukraine civil war continued unabated, claiming more lives and dozens of injuries overnight.

First from Interfax, which reported that:

  • UKRAINE GOVT TROOPS IN HEAVY FIGHTING IN SLOVYANSK: IFX

This was followed up promptly bya Bloomberg report that government forces engaged in firefight after ambush by separatists in Slovyansk, Interfax reports, citing acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov. Number of soldiers killed unknown, Avakov is cited as saying by news service

And then this most recent update from Bloomberg:

  • UKRAINE TROOPS SUFFER 4 KILLED, ABOUT 30 WOUNDED IN SLOVYANSK
  • UKRAINE'S INTERIOR MINISTRY SAYS CIVILIANS KILLED IN FIGHTING

More from RT:

Reports of gun battles are coming from eastern Ukraine again, where local militias are holding several cities against a force of Kiev loyalists. There are deaths among Ukraine troops, Interior Minister said.

 

There was a shooting on the outskirts of Slavyansk as pro-government troops raided a protester checkpoint, RIA Novosti reported on Monday.

 

The agency said at least 11 people were injured in the attack on the checkpoint.

 

Ukraine’s acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who is near Slavyansk, confirmed that Kiev has re-launched its crackdown on the protesters. He said up to eight troops have been injured in the clashes so far

 

“The number of fatalities is being double-checked,” the minister said.

 

Bells tolled in churches around the city to alert residents of the incoming threat.

Intefax cites a militia member as saying that their forces pulled back into the city after fighting in the villages of Andreevka and Semyonovka near Slavyansk. The Security Service of Ukraine spokesperson Marina Ostapenko said the renewed operation’s aim is “to establish a security perimeter around the regions engulfed by violence.”

There is a report of a separate civilian death near Slavyansk. A man driving his car was shot by one of Kiev’s armored personnel carriers blocking the city, protester spokesman, Aleksandr Maltsev, told Itar-Tass.

Why the continued and escalating aggression as per this:

Kiev has intensified attacks on Slavyansk and other protester-held cities in eastern Ukraine since Friday morning. So far government troops have managed to blockade transport to and from Slavyansk, but haven’t made significant territorial gains, preferring hit and run tactics.

Simple: recall that it was the warmongering IMF which told Kiev that unless it regains the east, that no bailout money will be forthcoming. In other words, while one can blame the violent coup and overthrow of the elected president on the CIA, the ensuing civil war is as much the doing of US foreign service as it is of the financial globalists.

 

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Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:16 | 4727803 CH1
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the ensuing civil war is as much the doing of US foreign service as it is of the financial globalists.

Umm...

Those are the same guys!

Funny that no one ever examines the State Department.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:16 | 4727807 Latina Lover
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Thank you USSA, for fucking up another country. Yankee go home!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:20 | 4727820 negative rates
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It seemed better when Cronkite delivered it from the battlefield, this play by play thing is getting boring.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:45 | 4727905 Haus-Targaryen
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Life Lesson:

The EU or US spreading "freedom and democracy" to the world, usually ends in civil war, and needless death. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:18 | 4728017 sushi
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Geneva Accord: Everyone settle down and cease conflict

IMF: You want money? Attack and suppress democratic resistance in the East.

Kerry: It's all Russia's fault.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:27 | 4728036 Smegley Wanxalot
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New and Improved Geneva Accord:  Disagree with the EU/USSA and you will be burned to death ... "humanely" - in accordance with our enlightened priniciples.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:26 | 4728217 Manthong
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Y'know, lot’s of battles have been fought at Kiev, but they haven’t had a really good siege for about 800 years.

The Mongoloids at the IMF and in the dark house seem to be conducting another one, only financial in nature. They could make it a hat trick for the history books.

The people of Kiev don’t seem to make out too well during and after these incidents.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 11:31 | 4728400 quasistable
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This article is disgusting brainwash and russian propaganda

1) it's not a civil war, it's russian invasion. Before starting a full-scale war against Ukraine, Russia wants to start a war IN Ukraine. 

2) all quotes come from russian govt media (including TASS - telegraph agency of Soviet Union "sovetsky soyuz"). I wonder, is it just laziness and stupidity to copypaste from these [so available] sources only?

3) speculation that the "continued and escalating aggression by Kiev" is this: "recall that it was the warmongering IMF which told Kiev that unless it regains the east, that no bailout money will be forthcoming.". This  disgusting speculation painted as the only reason for Ukrainian to defend its sovereignty.

What is cognitive disorder? It's when people protest and demand referendum to join a country in which protests and mere demands for referendum are punished by prison (or, in practice, just by torturing and burying in a forest).

We can now observe similar cognitive disorder of once respectful and reasonable zerohedge readers, once apologists of free market and now supporters of criminal neo-communistic regimes like russia, and its "rights to enslave" other countries once again.

The facts show that Yanukovich and his "family" have stolen at least $37 bln. The only thing that changed by Maidan is that Yanukovich was overthrown (in fact, he escaped himself the next day after killing 70 heroes by snipers). Nothing else has changed! A new election was scheduled for 25-May. Therefore the reason for Russia's and pro-russians attack on Ukraine are either 
 

1) Nostalgia for Yanukovich

2) A largest-scale looting in the latest history

You decide.


Mon, 05/05/2014 - 11:36 | 4728486 El Vaquero
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I'm sure Yanukovich was corrupt as fuck, and I'm sure there were a lot of Ukrainians at Euromaiden who were there because of that.  But that does not change the fact the the US funneled at least $5 billion into this shit and was trying to install a puppet government.  We went into a place that was under significant pressure anyway, and poked it with a stick.  It's popping.

 

If you're Ukrainian, have fun being caught in the middle of a tug-o-war between the US and Russia.  If you're with the US state departmet, fuck off.  Innocent people are going to suffer because of this fiasco. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:16 | 4728526 quasistable
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"the US funneled at least $5 billion into this shit"  is a quote from Russia Today. Well done!

But try to be closer to facts. It was invested since 1991 as in many other countries from former USSR, including Russia.

A lot of people voluntarily helped Maidan financially including myself. The $5 billions are gone a long ago. It was stolen by Yanukovich and previous thugs. When they have stolen everything, they began to steal loans:
Ukraine PM says $37 billion of state loans disappeared under Yanukovich.

This, and the continues oppression of all kinds of people's freedoms were the main reasons for Maidan.

But I agree that Ukraine doesn't need US's or EU's money. This would pervert its economy and bring new thugs to feed on it. Ukraine needs a free market economy, sovereignty and personal freedom. And after the Maidan the main and only enemy of this is Russia.

And here are your  $5 bln:

“Since the declaration of Ukrainian independence in 1991, the United States supported the Ukrainians in the development of democratic institutions and skills in promoting civil society and a good form of government - all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it deserves.”
Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:07 | 4728562 Mr. Delicious
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I have decided.

I've decided you're a fucking idiot who belongs elsewhere - te vast, vast majority of the news media is an echo chamber for people like you. Why don't you go there and tell them how Putin is the new Hitler and the IMF and oligarchs are in it to help the Ukrainian people.

NATO troops and probably western mercenaries, not to mention CIA advisors were on the ground when the US-backed riots were still going on.  That was meddling you want us to forget.  If you have evidence of Russian troops in Eastern Ukraine, why don't you share it - otherwise stfu. What we do have evidence of is the Kiev junta regime sending attack helicopters and tanks against protesters - 'separatists' who want autonomy from the Kiev regime installed into power by the US.

Crimea was autonomous. Their Parliament voed to have a referendum on joining Russia, and while the Tatars and pro-Kiev types stayed home, there is no question the vast majority wanted to leave Ukraine and the putsch government.

You're one of these cunts who talks about "corruption" only when trying to paint the Russian side and/or Putin as the bad guy against the enlightened West.  If you don't think Yats and the rest of his banker buddies are corrupt - you are a fuckin' idiot.  He's a Jewish banker installed by a Jewish under-sec of state in consultation with the Jewish ambassador and a Jewish undersec at the UN [Feltman - an arch neocon and Israel Firster like Nuland's husband].  You think he's in it for the average Ukrainian - the 99.3% who, unlike he and most of the oligarchs and the dickhead who produced the "I am a Ukrainian" prop-video, aren't Jewish?  Or the half the country that preferred the Russian deal?

There are a million websites that sell your version of events.  If you dont like another version, you can kindly fuck off.

 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:14 | 4728572 quasistable
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Your reply doesn't deserve comments. I better keep it as is.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:34 | 4728632 Mr. Delicious
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go fuck yourself, you ignorant twat.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:33 | 4728831 quasistable
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Putin secretely rewarded more than 300 "journalists" for "objective covering of news in Cremea". 

Go get you reward, loser. Otherwise you belong to the "idiots for free" community.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 16:39 | 4729572 where_is the_nuke
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A fucking retard, that's what you are. After all these Iraq, Syria, Liya, Egypt, if you think Putin is more responsile for the current situation in Ukraine more than USA then you are a dum fucktard sheeple. And I hope whatever shithole city you live in will get nuked first.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:41 | 4728870 Volkodav
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useless talkings

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 14:52 | 4729170 Joe A
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You're even shorter member of ZH than Novictim is! It appears that someone is dripwise making people trolls on ZH.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 17:41 | 4729834 quasistable
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I was a ZH reader long ago. I registered to be able to comment. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:33 | 4727859 Tabarnaque
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Well said Latina Lover. The blood thirsty neocons in Washington DC will do everything the can to try to save a doomed monetary/financial system. If it need the blood of Ukrainian then so be it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:44 | 4727903 tsuki
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The major problem with the neocons is that they have no skin in the game.  Time to invade their stink tanks, suit them up and ship them out.  A little OJT never did any harm.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:01 | 4727959 Tabarnaque
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When the US dollar starts collapsing then you'll see how thin their dirty skin really is.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:02 | 4728185 Kirk2NCC1701
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If that were to happen, they'd whip out their 2nd passport and hi-tail it to safety. 

They truly have no foreskin in the game.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:10 | 4728766 Meat Hammer
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I see what you did there.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:01 | 4728174 Kirk2NCC1701
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Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:31 | 4728618 quasistable
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Stop twisting the reality. The best way to spilt blood of Ukrainians is to support Russia. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:21 | 4728811 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Another typical Ukrainian Junta Citizenism citizen meaning nothing reaction comment.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:09 | 4727976 TheReplacement
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That country was already fucked up.  The festering puss is just being exposed now.  It isn't like eastern oligarchs are any better than western ones.  That is what this is about - eastern mafia versus western mafia.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:22 | 4728033 shovelhead
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And I can personally assure you that nobody wants to see an exposed, festering puss.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:24 | 4728600 eurogold
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Didn't work out for the U.S. MIC with Syria, so maybe it will with the Ukraine ?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:34 | 4727853 Ralph Spoilsport
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"Funny that no one ever examines the State Department."

Or "Consular Operations".

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:03 | 4727964 JesusUp
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"Send in the Envoy" --- Warren Zevon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkHn7WFrzCU

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:11 | 4727980 Edward1290
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its the goddamn chickenhawk, chickenshit, zio-neo-cons.......

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:15 | 4727804 BandGap
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Civilians with guns are combatants. Once shot full of holes you take away the guns and they become civilians again.

What about this isn't a civil war?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:25 | 4727837 yrbmegr
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The press has defined them as "protesters".  Gives an expansive new meaning to that word.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:45 | 4727895 Mine Is Bigger
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hmm...

RT reporting 

"Ukraine’s acting Interior Minister Arsen Avakov, who is near Slavyansk..."

 

Could it be a thinly veiled suggestion, I wonder.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:43 | 4728294 Kirk2NCC1701
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Every Arsen has a finite duration.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:03 | 4727965 Omen IV
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what i dont understand at this stage given the fire in Odessa and other murders is why Russia doesnt hand out 1,000 shoulder based missile launchers with 20 projectiles each suitable for aircraft and tanks - to the locals?

wouldnt that stop the entire Kiev game? - doing nothing other than that - cheap and quick

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:49 | 4728136 Sabibaby
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The first part of this war will be to win the hearts and minds of world citizens from the East to the West. If Russia stays back while pro-Kiev and Maiden protestors kill Ukrainian citizens indiscriminately he will win the hearts and minds of the world while the atrocities of the West are broadcast all over the internet.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:10 | 4728566 SilverRhino
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Passing them out is easy .... COLLECTING them up from a now well-armed citizenry on the other hand is a cast iron BITCH. 

Russia doesn't allow citizens to own handguns and automatic weapons.    Anti tank / Anti aircraft missiles?   Come on.  Let's get real here.  

 

Now would Putin hand those out in say Texas or Alaska to cause the USA some trouble?   That would be something to see.  :) 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:16 | 4727805 One And Only
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Maybe they should try 1st ammendment zones.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:20 | 4727824 BandGap
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Apparently, those are located outside Ukraine. Just across the border, on the Russian side.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:17 | 4727811 lolmao500
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My NATO source : Kiev is fortifying the capital since they believe that the Ruskies are coming at the earliest the 9th, at the latest the 11-12...

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:23 | 4727830 samcontrol
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time for AGQ options.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:26 | 4727838 negative rates
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Like drop back 5 yards and punt.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:27 | 4727841 Acidtest Dummy
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Doubt it. Four killed and 40 wounded -- the seperatists can fight for themselves. Russian troops can wait till after the referendum.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:22 | 4728032 sushi
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Remember that until recently Ukraine had conscription. So all males will have had some military training and will know the basics of weapon handling.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:35 | 4727865 geno-econ
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More importantly, just what does your NATO source say when the Ruskies enter Kiev?-----Hold another press con ference to announce NATO will not tolerate invasion of a NATO nation, announce postponement of May 25 elections, cancel IMF 16 billion loan and offer asylum to fleeing Kiev unelected stooges.  Amazing what  free cookies will get you. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:49 | 4727928 Boomberg
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NATO will move more aircraft to the Baltic states which doesn't cost much relatively and can be done quickly to give the appearance that something is being done to the uninformed. Never mind that the Baltics have never been threatened and are not even close to Ukraine. When most Americans don't know where Kansas is you could move aircraft to Okinawa and give the impression that something is being done in response to the Ukraine crisis.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:11 | 4727981 TheReplacement
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Never discount the lack of intelligence of the average citizen.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:52 | 4727936 BorisTheBlade
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Oh, and what are they gonna do if Russians don't come by that deadline, burn more people?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:51 | 4728147 BlindMonkey
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Just wait until armed drone technology goes more mainstream. It will completely change civil wars and large scale protests forever. You won't need to burn them out at that point. Just a little drone dive bomb and you have yourself an anonymous massacre

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:24 | 4728043 fxchange
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I wonder what  will say Obama&Merkel  if Yanukovich come back to Kyev on  the Victory Day of 9th of May?
Will it be the coup?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:45 | 4728304 messystateofaffairs
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If Putin was my Rottweiler I would say "Get I'm boy" before those tribal perverts in the yard break into the family home and start their long drawn out process of molesting the family. End this quick, or live it slow, that's how it's going to be.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:18 | 4727815 lolmao500
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What I'm waiting for is what happen when cities and states start telling the feds to take a hike?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:43 | 4727899 Things that go bump
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It had occurred to me that we also have militias that could be holding Sioux City or Watertown if they wanted to. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:00 | 4727957 swmnguy
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I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to hold Watertown.  There isn't a defensive feature anywhere in Codington County, nor for a hundred miles.  Talk about country you just sweep through.  Full disclosure: I grew up near Marshall, MN.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:08 | 4727973 Things that go bump
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Guerrilla warfare then. They could go home for lunch.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:09 | 4727977 Ignatius
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This is what Poland's problem has been, I'm told.  Historically they're stuck between two expansionist empires, Germany and Russia, and the terrain is like trying to defend a county crossroad in the middle of Nebraska.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:19 | 4728021 swmnguy
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Or, as in "Things That Go Bump's" analogy, East-River South Dakota.  You could commit sabotage, and then head home for lunch of cold roasted pheasant.  But there's no doing anything stealthily.  Growing up, we could tell when anything was moving within a mile or two of us. We could hear engines, and anything moving over about 5 mph raised enough dust you could see it.  Plus if you shinnied up on of the cottonwood trees that tell you where the water is, you could see 5 miles plain as day, and 20 miles with binoculars.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:42 | 4728097 forwardho
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Hope your not holding a time sensitive Position on that Option.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:19 | 4727818 Sudden Debt
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When will the US send 5000 drones with hellfire missiles to the Ukraine?

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:24 | 4727828 negative rates
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At the same time they get hijacked electronically and fly harmlessly to the ground killing no one. We might not even report on it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:58 | 4727954 intric8
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I would love to see those missiles find their way straight up nulands rectum

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:20 | 4727823 Dr. Engali
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Uncle SAM spreading freedom and democracy through bloodshed across the globe. Here take this freedom. In order to get it you have to accept this 17 billion petro-slave-dollars and shoot your fellow country men full of holes.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:24 | 4727834 BeetleBailey
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yeah....and only 40? wounded?

COME ON! LET'S SEE SOME WHOLESALE MASS KILLINGS!!!!

JESUS H. CHRIST....GENERAL PATTON WOULD BE SOMETHING OF THE ORDER OF:

40?????!!!! NO ONE'S WINNING SHIT UNTIL WE STACK BODIES LIKE CORD WOOD.....BREAKS??? DON'T JUST SIT THERE...STEP ON ANTS!!!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:33 | 4727858 kurt
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I hope someone comes and looks for you. Keep it up monger boy.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:50 | 4727930 BeetleBailey
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you missed the dripping sarcasm from my post...

as for you....ever pick up a rifle? I bet not.

Go pound sand....

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:56 | 4727949 Headbanger
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Oh gee you actually have picked up a rifle!!?

Wow!

You're a sick little puke..

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:02 | 4727960 intric8
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I got your sarcasm bb. The real shysters at work in ukraine would gladly see those numbers run up. The more who die, the more putin will be blamed. They are playing out a sick game with many ukraine/russian lives at stake and their gonna regret it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:39 | 4728088 loonyleft
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the CIA and FBI are running this show according to plan. They are trying to

A. demonize putin, so that he cannot send any troops in at any time until there is a clear referendum, or he risks popular opinion turning against him...which does count in the Ukraine

B. Send in right wing neo nazis to kill making moderate separatists think twice, while not having the government's hands visibly dirty. "hey, no, that wasn't us, really, just some independent neo nazis burning you fuckers alive"

C. Get Ukrain soldiers killed gradually breaking down their reluctance to shoot on fellow countrymen. 

I am afraid that the CIA/FBI, neocons or whoever is actually running the show are turning the tide in their favour. I hope that the Russians have a plan to get this over quickly. 

These are either some very sick or very desperate or both running the show. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:56 | 4728165 BlindMonkey
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Option B might play in the west but I doubt it will play internally. I bet the level of bloodlust on the part of the Ukrainians is limited to the fanatics. If they are closely aligned with the junta, people will want them out and replaced.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:39 | 4728277 loonyleft
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but it did happen and just like here, there are some on the far left, and some on the far right (not political, but in reference to the current situation there) and a whole lot in the middle. 

The junta will distance themselves from that publicly. They might even offer protection of a 'stable government' to sway even more people. 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 11:44 | 4728511 BlindMonkey
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No doubt it happened.  What I am not sure about is how it played to the general public.  I doubt that was a proud moment for the average Uke.  It might have a long memory and hopefully, once completely grok'd, will be the begining of the end of Right Sektor.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:17 | 4728785 Meat Hammer
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intric8, the really sad part is that a few years and a few hundred thousand lives from now, few people will remember why it even started.  

The CIA operatives will just slither away...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:47 | 4728319 LFMayor
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Beetle's correct.  This is just sensationalism at it's finest. 

USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS,  we've had goddamn church bus traffic accidents with higher bodycounts.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:56 | 4728709 kurt
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Yes

Perhaps you lack the ability to say what you mean without the sarcasm? There is an adult school downtown, across from the mall. Just go left out your driveway. Is that truck a 2003?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:15 | 4728776 LFMayor
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You picked an odd venue if you have sarcasm issues, or do they just flare up periodically?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 14:38 | 4729097 kurt
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I know you are but what am I?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:23 | 4727831 yrbmegr
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I don't think "protester" is the right word for people in south-eastern Ukraine who deny the authority of the government in Kiev, want to join their province to Russia, take over government buildings, and declare independence from Kiev.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:34 | 4727862 tonyw
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Sounds more like freedom-fighters to me.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:38 | 4727875 tsuki
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The Resistance. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:38 | 4727874 Dr. Engali
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Why on earth would they want o succumb to a CIA puppet government?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:29 | 4728057 chapaev's ghost
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Well, let's see if we can find a win for the IMF/Bankster/Tribal coup leaders of Ukraine to give to their eastern citizens:

1. Crushing austerity, higher prices for everything, more taxes on cigarettes and vodka, and energy shortfalls.

2. Membership in the EU, which is as much fun as being invited to join a leper colony.

3. Membership in NATO. Because Ukraine has a littoral on the North Atlantic Ocean. Because NATO loves Slavs, especially dead Slavs. Because freedom is defined by having an American or British or German officer class in your military.

4. The populace can wallow in racist fascism, just as long as they give all real power to the people they hate. Because hating is fun and takes one's attention away from the hunger pangs.

I could go on, but let's contrast the above advantages to the horrors of returning to Russia:

1. Membership in an actual functioning economy that is an energy exporter and still makes real stuff. This means you might actually have to work and take time to cook and eat real food.

2. In  Russia, you have to speak a real language, and not some bastardized Tex-Mex pidgin of Russian, Romanian, Polish and Lithuanian.

3. If you returned to Russia, the military startegy would be one of resolute national self-defense. Your sons in the army would be deprived of involvement in foreign military adventures in interesting places like Afghanistan.

4. As a part of Russia you would have to live in a political system of semi-democracy, where elections are tolerated as long as everything moves along according to the plan of the ruling elite. This is a horrible idea, compared to the West's version of semi-fascism, in which elections are tolerated, as long as everything moves along according to the plan of the ruling elite. The big difference is that in Russia, the ruling elite is Russian, whereas in the West, the ruling elite has dual citizenship.

YES THE CHOICE IS CLEAR!!!!

 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:51 | 4728145 MrPalladium
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+1000

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:31 | 4728066 shovelhead
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Because Obama say:

"If you like your Neo-Nazis, you can keep your Neo-Nazis."

 

Until they are no longer useful to us.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 13:21 | 4728812 Meat Hammer
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Why on earth would they want to succumb to a CIA puppet government?

No shit, way too hush-hush.

It's much better in 'Murica where you can travel to Wall St and Langley, VA and actually see the headquarters of our government's puppet masters.  That's called freedom.

Cue slow-motion bald eagle.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:40 | 4727888 tsuki
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I don't think "the government in Kiev" is the right word for people exercising authority in western Ukraine.  The junta or coup is more apt. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:23 | 4728231 standors
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The mandate of current government in Kiev is only very short only next 20 days until new elections.They do not want to govern, but prepare new elections.

The biggest touble is that the people questioning mandate of current government and calling for legal president, gov.  are the exactly same people which makes everything possible to avoid new elections( seize gov. buildings, request joining Russia ) .... these people do not want legaly elected president, they wants create chaos a join Russia. These peoples are not interested for voice of Ukraine citizens.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:46 | 4727915 booboo
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What government are you talking about, the democratically elected one that was over thrown by the State Department or the state department installed one that is sitting in Kiev now? Granted the Yanni was a piece of shit but he was elected and you folks juuuuuust love democracy until you don't.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:07 | 4728195 Infinite QE
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Hmm....was there an election in Kiev to put in power a jewish central banker?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:24 | 4727833 Infinite QE
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Has Yats the Yid fled to Tel Aviv yet?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:25 | 4727836 observer007
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Putin wants to 'wipe Ukraine off the map', says interim…

Ukraine's pro-Western interim prime minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk blamed Moscow’s secret services for dozens killed in a fire in Odessa on Friday.

 

Russia warned today that failure to halt the escalating unrest in Ukraine would threaten peace across Europe, and accused Ukrainian ultra-nationalists of rights violations on a mass scale.

Latest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=ukraine&t=text

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:39 | 4727882 tonyw
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From what i have read it seems the russians are being fairly calm and measured "rights violations" whilst the ukrainans are almost hysterical talking abiout being "wiped off the map"

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:55 | 4727945 Winston Churchill
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Must be a MOSSAD translator.
Probably said the regime in Jerusalem ,er Kiev, will fade from the pages of history, or something.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:54 | 4727940 ross81
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yeah it was Moscow's agents who trapped and then torched those ethnic Russians. There were no Banderite thugs anywhere near the place! But of course it matters not for the likes of Yats and all the other globalist puppets in Kiev. They'll be Miami or Tel Aviv-bound as soon as the real shit hits the fan.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:31 | 4728064 IndianaJohn
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observer, -- you are observing the wrong view. Have you tried placing a mirror in your toilet?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:26 | 4727839 Azannoth
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As soon as the Ukrainian soldiers realize who they are bleeding for this whole thing will be over quick.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:43 | 4727896 tonyw
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Surely uou don't think they are being allowed to receive a balanced report of what is happening?

The best part was when the old folks stopped the APC, it must have been clear that these were ordinary people not crack russian troops.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:15 | 4727997 Global Observer
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The last time the Kyiv regime tried to oust the "terrorists", the Ukrainian military refused to fire, surrndered their weapons to the self-defence forces and left.

Let us see how much equipment the self-defence forces will gain this time.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:43 | 4728106 loonyleft
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as more Ukranian forces are killed they will be less likely to surrender and more likely to fire back in force.

All according to CIA plan

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:27 | 4727843 Jameson18
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With everything that is going on in America this is the headline on Drudge this morning. Now you know why the banks are holding back inventory. And why your rights are being trashed everyday. All for the special refugees that are coming.

ODESSA JEWS PREPARE FOR EMERGENCY EVACUATION

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:39 | 4728647 Mr. Delicious
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when those phoney fliers wer edistributed - it got far, far more coverage than the burning of churches and murder of priests by the Syrian rebels.

Had a single Jew been killed, it would have been front page news.

Meanwhile, in a country where Jews are 0.7% of the country, a Jew was installed as the unelected leader, most of the billionaires, who own most of their media are Jews, several of the governors and large city mayors are jews, and one of the largest Jewish groups is Chabad - which is little more than a Jewish Supremacist organization that literally teaches that non-Jews are inferior.

Meanwhile, the Kiev junta was installed, in large part, by actual Nazis. Not critics of Israel. Not people who worry about disproportionate Jewish/Zionist power - actuall fuckin' Nazi scum.

Yeah, I'd say they should worry.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:30 | 4727847 kurt
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You'll note the faces are either blurred or covered accept for the old $50/day men. Whose killing who? Answer: contractors killing Ukrainians to make it look like Russians. 

I also note how the verbiage is getting more emotional and patriotic. It's like a zipper opening, the two sides falling away, taking sides, and there in the middle is the small, inadequate bulge of the State Department and Private contractors. Blood thirsty blood suckers. How stupid does it look to double down when you're wrong? Why back stupidity. GET OUT of Ukraine!

US Congress get us out of eastern europe, cut defense. Return laws to pre-patriot pre ndaa. Slippery slope to tyranny folks.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:51 | 4727932 Things that go bump
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Double down? I think they're going to go all in. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:28 | 4727849 A_Nejad
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I think this might be a little/big revenge from Putin's side, in case todays' events escalate: Why make any formal military response/move against Kiev's Zio fascists during the weekend, whilst waiting until start the week will also have a direct AND negative impact on the western financial institutions as well, like a double whopper thingie... Now, the market have a whole five days to speculate over Ukraine with every bit of news, which usually/presumably results in turmoil and uncertainty, which we all know market-makers hate to death..I'm still long Oil.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:36 | 4727867 nmewn
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They're protesters! No they're separatists. No they're militia. No they're demonstrators.

I just love reading propaganda.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:45 | 4727909 gcjohns1971
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I know what you mean.

But I don't love it.

I find it frustrating that after so many official lies people still can't understand that 'The News' is the one place where they will NEVER get 'The News'.

Believing the first lie is understandable.

Believing the second lie after the first is known to be a lie, is foolish.

But we're on what, the 10,000th lie?  Just in this news cycle?

Anyone who pays any attention to Russian, US, or European propaganda on this is CHOOSING TO BE DECEIVED.

PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION:

If someone CHOOSES to be decieved - doesn't that imply that they are somewhat aware of the truth?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:29 | 4728245 messystateofaffairs
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True enough, everybody has a vested intetest in their own spin. I try to see who is doing what with who and use that to figure out for myself what their intentions are. My take is that the west has been coopted by a malevolent and organized force and has become the enemy of freedom. They need a check or we are all going to find ourselves in a heap of fascist shit. Right now Russia's actions appear to be providing that check and China seems to agree. That's not to say they won't have their own agendas, but hopefully it will be their own agenda and not some puppet masters.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:04 | 4728188 messystateofaffairs
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Who are you referring to regarding the use of those terms? I can see no inconsistency with the same person satisfying all four adjectives anyway. Not clear on your point.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:51 | 4728689 supermaxedout
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try freedom fighters

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:36 | 4727869 Sambo
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In evildom things work in a hierarchical manner. When the lower level string pullers start to lose, the next higher evil lord takes over. That is when things start to escalate into a full blown physical war.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:38 | 4727876 Spungo
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RIP my comrades! (I'm a Ukrainian Jew)

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:44 | 4727901 A_Nejad
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oh fuck off...!!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:48 | 4727926 Infinite QE
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Time to flee to Israel and get $35K/year in free US handouts.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:39 | 4727880 gcjohns1971
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The German's plan is to get peacekeepers in there, which will give them the presence ensure they get what they want - which is alternate energy suppliers using the Ukraine Pipelines. 

Looks like Putin is willing to go to war over this, because South Stream is having problems, and a major part of his country's income - and most of Putin's supporters income - is travelling through those pipes.

This isn't Chess.  At best this is checkers.  And it is stupid. 

If Europe and Russia go to war over preventing Europe from having non-Russian energy suppliers who wins? No ONE!  Even the energy suppliers' revenues will fall in the ensuing destruction!

This is now a conflict about domination, about who can say they had their way over whom.

However, Russia's concerns don't seem to be driven as much by immediate economic necessity.  For Russia it is about strategy (gaining the ability to strangle Europe) and about pride post-Soviet Union.

For Europe it is about life-blood.  As the economic situation in Europe deteriorates, Europe will become increasingly committed - because the alternative is suicide. Europe doesn't just 'desire' alternate suppliers.  It requires them.

Russia will likely win the opening salvos of this war - which will be WWIII in slow-motion - but it will lose the war, because while people's hearts rule their heads as a rule - also as a rule their stomachs will rule both.

Europe's stomach stands to suffer from the real motivations of this conflict.  Russia's pride is at stake. 

My experience and money is that stomach rules pride.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:47 | 4727918 Debugas
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for Russia it is about NATO bases in Ukraine next to Russia's borders

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:08 | 4727970 gcjohns1971
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Ukraine has no NATO bases.

If Russia takes Ukraine, Russia will be bordered by NATO bases - because Russia moved closer to them.

Now that Russia has OVERTLY intervened in the Ukraine (for the 2nd time - first time was in 2008), if Ukraine survives, then they will have the choice to go NUCLEAR or to go NATO.

Which one is good for Russia?

NATO has NEVER BEEN AIMED AT RUSSIA. NATO was NOT FORMED FOR THE COLD WAR.

NATO WAS FORMED FOR WW1 and WW2.  NATO was formed to threaten any big European State that tries to annex the small ones.

So NATO has been aimed at anyone who attacks a member. 

The Soviet Union had many admirers in the West, foolish socialists that they were/are, until its leaders made a habit of banging their shoes on the table and proclaiming how the Soviets were going to invade to bring 'A Worker's Paradise' by force.

If you KNOW Isvestia has no news, and Pravda has no truth why do you continue to listen to them?

Did NATO invade Russia in the 1990s when it would have been easiest?  (At that time Russian soldiers outside of Moscow Oblast had not been paid in YEARS... Many simply took off their uniforms and walked off their bases.) 

Wouldn't THAT have been the time to attack? 

Face it. NO ONE WANTS CENTRAL ASIA!  THE RUSSIANS WHO LIVE THERE TRY TO GET TO MOSCOW OR ST P.  AND NOT EVEN THE TURKMEN AND KAZAHKS WHO LIVE THERE WANT IT!!!!

PUTIN'S PROPAGANDA TO THE CONTRARY IS JUST PROPAGANDA!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:48 | 4728131 MarkAntony
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up 1 for being brave enough to write the other side on this blog... 

 

Unfortunately... most conclusions here are drawn on limited knowledge, propaganda influence (from all sides) and flat out careless running of the mouth (keyboard if you prefer)...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:45 | 4728302 Ides of November
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Russia intervened in Ukraine? Did you miss the so-called Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004? Which the Ukrainian people explicitly rejected by then electing Yanukovych.

Not sure how you missed that, but surely you're aware of the coup in February this year orchestrated by the likes of the US State Department (heard of Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt et al and 'Fuck the EU', oh, and we mustn't forget 'Our man Yats') - or do you somehow think the conversation between Nuland & Pyatt was Russian propaganda? Really? (Despite it never being denied by Nuland & Pyatt....)

Not sure how you missed all that - but you are aware that this whole crisis was born in Washington DC. Not sure how you can miss all that unless you're a paid shill. Just what are the US State Department, CIA and FBI doing mucking around in Ukraine anyway.

As you seem to, do you really think the Russians have just as much right to overthrow Stephen Harper in a coup to install a Russian friendly government in the Great White North to improve Russian security.

Do you really think Russia has a legitimate right to do that? Really? Because that is basically what you're arguing mate - and personally I find it offensive that you seem to think Russia has a right to instigate a coup in Canada!!

Can you explain succinctly what on God's green Earth gives Russia the right to do that! Personally, I find your line of argument spurious in favour of these sort of coups!! Where do you get off??????

Peace.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:49 | 4728323 Hunch Trader
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"NATO was NOT FORMED FOR THE COLD WAR."

roflol


Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:50 | 4727931 suteibu
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So, you set it up with this...

"Looks like Putin is willing to go to war over this, because South Stream is having problems, and a major part of his country's income - and most of Putin's supporters income - is travelling through those pipes."

...in order to get to this...

"However, Russia's concerns don't seem to be driven as much by immediate economic necessity.  For Russia it is about strategy (gaining the ability to strangle Europe) and about pride post-Soviet Union."

Square that circle for us.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:43 | 4728111 shovelhead
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To me it sounds like a manual transmission trying to get in gear without a clutch.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:39 | 4727883 Oh regional Indian
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This "war", erupting, has even less basis than the Libya conflict.

Which really says everything....

ori

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:48 | 4727924 gcjohns1971
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Libya was to be the delivery point to a cross-mediterranean energy pipeline delivering from energy fields in Africa.

Libya was also Russia's ally - and refused on that basis.

Same for Syria.

This is just gang warfare.  Plain and simple.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:14 | 4727991 Oh regional Indian
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True enough.

With under-currents that will never be clear till sunshine hits the darkest places...

ori

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:45 | 4727907 Debugas
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by Ukrainian constitution both by the old one and the new one army can not fight its own citizens without authorization from the parliament

I wonder did they have the voting in the parliament to use military force against their own population ?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:47 | 4727916 the not so migh...
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sure they did, the cia and fbi made sure of it

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:15 | 4727993 forwardho
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Should this suprise you?

In the Nation of Laws, the US, 93 out of 100 Senators have already given approval for the use of millitary force against thier own population.

Its already done.

It was passed in the full light of day, in front of the entire population.

Its called the NDAA.

That it was passed at all, and why it was passed should be a cause of great concern to any thinking being.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:48 | 4727925 Bernoulli
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What? Steinmeier proposes "improved Geneva talks"?

Didn't he already act as a negotiator and mediator in February in Kiev? How did that go?

Check out this interview with him:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/frank-walter-steinmeier-inte...

February 24, 2014 – 05:27 PM

SPIEGEL: Mr. Steinmeier, you played a part in negotiating the political agreement between Ukraine's government and its opposition. What was at stake?

 

Steinmeier: We sat and negotiated for over 20 hours. When we arrived, black smoke was already rising above Independence Square, and you could hear gunshots. We were constantly hearing about the rising death toll. Everybody knew that our negotiations were the last chance for a political solution. I think it made people more prepared to make the necessary compromises.

SPIEGEL: Did Russia try to thwart your efforts?

Steinmeier: Russia backed our roadmap. President Putin sent an emissary to Kiev on Thursday -- he negotiated during night and was very constructive. The Russian delegate helped build bridges while putting together the text. It was also in Russia's interest to end the bloodshed.

SPIEGEL: It had seemed, previously, that Vladimir Putin was encouraging the conflict.

Steinmeier: A week ago I had a long conversation with Putin about the situation in Kiev. He agreed with me, that the worst thing that could happen to Ukraine was for the tug of war between the East and the West for the country to continue for the next ten years. Mrs. Merkel has also kept in touch. Anarchy and civil war right next door -- that is definitely not in Russia's interest. And as a "failed state," Ukraine would topple towards the East -- and become a burden for Russia.

SPIEGEL: Former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder, a Social Democrat like yourself, has said the Europeans are ill-suited to mediate in Ukraine because they have interests of their own. What made you, along with your colleagues from France and Poland, decide to travel to Kiev?

Steinmeier: The decision came together in the last few days during talks with Laurent Fabius and Radek Sikorski. It was a trip into the unknown. We were aware of the danger because an agreement seemed unlikely, but we still believed that we had a responsibility to at least try to figure out a way from the outside to keep the situation from escalating. That said, we had no idea that the body count would continue to rise on the day of our arrival.

SPIEGEL: In hindsight, was it wrong that the EU made Ukraine choose between Russia and EU with the Association Agreement? Don't European leaders carry some responsibility for the escalation of tensions?

Steinmeier: It's spilled milk. But we shouldn't forget that it was Ukraine that wanted the Association Agreement with the European Union.

SPIEGEL: Opposition leaders like Vitali Klitschko called for sanctions early on. The United States were in favor of them as well. Should Europe have listened?

Steinmeier: Only pushing for sanctions is not good policy. Sanctions need to be a means to an end. They cannot be an end in themselves. Ultimately, I think we used this tool responsibly.

SPIEGEL: Did Russia suddenly realize it was in its best interest to cooperate with the West?

Steinmeier: Russia is an important partner but not a simple one. We've reached solutions with Russia about Syria's chemical weapons, the Iran dossier, and now Ukraine. Elsewhere that hasn't been the case. In those latter circumstances, we continue talking and searching for common ground.

SPIEGEL: So you want to continue the Russia policies that put you in conflict with the Chancellery during your first term as foreign minister from 2005 to 2009?

Steinmeier: What's the alternative? Sitting insulted in the corner and refusing to talk? In foreign policy, if we make a habit of being uncommunicative with countries that don't share our politics, we won't get anywhere in resolving many of the world's crises.

SPIEGEL: It's not about whether we should be talking to the Russians, but how. Back then, you argued for the soft-spoken approach -- without much success.

Steinmeier: History judges the success of a foreign policy. And it's yet to be proven that shouting your arguments through a megaphone will work in your favor. Russia is a European country and I want it to stay that way. There are justifiable criticisms of Russia -- we have significantly different ideas about the rule of law and civil liberties. In spite of that, we want to try to enact positive change and work more closely in the areas where we agree. I've called this the "positive agenda."

...

spilt milk. WTF. This interview was done on February 24, 2014!!!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:01 | 4728183 shovelhead
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Nice catch.

Note the crafty covering statement right behind it. "They wanted it."

On the 24th? Which "They"? The legally elected Ukrainian Govt. or the US State Dept.?

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 08:52 | 4727937 Kina
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Well if they kept their 40 tons of gold they could be pay gazprom with that....so I gues the US stole the gold so they could blackmail Ukraine into civil war.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:19 | 4728023 philosophers bone
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"Kiev Loyalists" vs. "Pro-Russian Insurgents / Rebels"

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:24 | 4728041 Edward1290
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Why was Timmy just in China?????

http://english.cri.cn/11354/2014/04/30/2743s824375.htm

''Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (R) meets with former U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in Beijing, capital of China, April 29, 2014. [Photo: Xinhua/Ding Lin]

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang met with former U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in Beijing on Tuesday for closer economic ties.''

The official story is bunk.......

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:41 | 4728276 sandblaster
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I think he was in China consulting for the new Chinese version of Turbo Tax.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 09:24 | 4728042 muleskinner
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I guess when you have people organizing and arming themselves to kill other people, it must be war or something.

It's war a go go.  Dammit anyhow.

Country Joe sang all about it at Woodstock during the Vietnam War.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs4s7LrAuMo

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:09 | 4728203 shovelhead
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Dicky really didn't like that guy at all.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:20 | 4728221 Marley
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Appareently ruling authority in Russia is threatening to invade Europe now.  Looks like the 0.0001% have chosen Europe again for the next mass genecide.  Calling all Call to Duty heros, your time is coming.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:36 | 4728272 Jreb
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Tyler - maybe now would be a good time to change your headline to read: 

"4 Ukraine Soliders Killed, 40 Wounded As Civil War Escalates"

Seems more to the point...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:37 | 4728275 sandblaster
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Where is the Ukrainian gold?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:57 | 4728350 news printer
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safe

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:41 | 4728285 22winmag
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Imagine this as DHS-FEMA-UN-ETC against "We The [Heavily Armed] People".

 

They government goons would fold rather quickly.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 10:44 | 4728301 LFMayor
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WOW!  Things are really heating up over there!

If they keep up this pace, they'll surpass even Philly or Chicago's numbers.

ROLL OUT NATO:  SOMETHING MUST BE DONE

/sarc off.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 11:01 | 4728361 Itchy and Scratchy
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I hope Asst Sec of State Victoria (FU) Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan gave some cookies to all the parents of those poor dead saps!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 12:01 | 4728544 border dog
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CIA and FBI could not manage Bengazzi or Boston Bombing crisis.  Now they are running the aggression in Ukraine.....children at work.............

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