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The Latest Flight MH-370 Shocker: A Two-Ton Cargo Mystery

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At this point it is clear that Malaysian Airlines flight MH 370 which has been missing for two months will almost certainly never be found: whether due to the nature of the disappearance, or because it is a cover up stretching all the way to the very top (recall that it was disclosed by none other than NBC that the released air traffic control recording with the plane was edited, suggesting that the government itself is complicit in whatever happened), the plane will forever be entombed in the annals of history, alongside CNN's Nielsen ratings, and its final resting place will remain a mystery.

However, over the past 24 hours, another mystery surrounding the final voyage of flight MH-370 has emerged.

Recall that as part of our last article on MH370, we also provided a copy of the just released cargo manifest - something which should have been made public the day the airplane went missing and instead was withheld for two months. We repost the manifest below:

 

Note that on page 5 of the manifest, in a waybill from NNR Global Logistics in Penang to JHJ International Transporation in Beijing, are disclosed two shipments of some 200 units of Lithium Ion batteries, weighing a gross weight of 2453 kilos.

So far so good. However, as the Malaysia Chronicle reported last night, there is a major discrepnacy between the declared shipment weight on the manifest, and what Malaysa Airlines stated yesterday. From the Chronicle:

A new mystery has emerged in Flight MH370's disappearance with the Malaysia Airlines saying the lithium ion batteries carried in the plane weighed over 200 kg, even as the cargo manifest released recently listed the "consolidated" consignment at 2.453 tonnes.

 

"About two tonnes, equivalent to 2,453 kg of cargo was declared as consolidated under one master airway bill. This master AWB actually comprised five house AWB. Of these five AWB, two contained lithium ion batteries amounting to a total tonnage volume of 221 kg. The balance three house AWB, amounting to 2,232 kg, were declared as radio accessories and chargers," the Malaysia Airlines (MAS) said in a statement last night.

 

But this has not been disclosed before and is not stated in the cargo manifest, the Star reported.

 

According to Malaysian company NNR Global Logistics the batteries formed only a small part of a "consolidated" shipment weighing 2.453 tonnes.

 

Even though the MAS said the batteries weighed 221 kg, a company spokesman said they weighed less than 200kg. He, however, did not say what the remaining 2.253 tonnes of cargo was.

"I cannot reveal more because of the ongoing investigations. We have been told by our legal advisers not to talk about it," he was quoted as saying by the daily.

Would it be the same law firm that "advised" the Malaysian government to edit the voice recordings before public release?

He said he could not name the company which manufactured the batteries.

 

Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya had also announced on March 24 that 200 kg of lithium batteries were on board the plane. He said they were packed safely.

 

Malaysian authorities released the plane's full cargo manifest along with the preliminary report on the missing Boeing 777-200 on Thursday which showed that NNR Global shipped 133 pieces of one item weighing 1.99 tonnes and 67 pieces of another item weighing 463kg for a total weight of 2.453 tonnes. Neither the number of batteries nor its weight were specified.

 

The manifest came with an instruction that it should be handled with care and that flammability hazards exist. Its flammability had been the source of many earlier theories over how the plane was lost. However, most of the theories have been debunked.

So because one mystery was not enough, here is the second one: what is the undisclosed 2 tonnes of cargo? And since absolutely everything about this disappearance stinks to high heaven, including a potentially non-benign cover up, one wonders: what else on the cargo manifest was left undisclosed? We are confident the more conspiratorially-minded, or anyone else for that matter, will have a field day with the opportunities this latest revelations presents.

 

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Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:47 | 4730397 stacking12321
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yes, but the 777 was worth $261M retail price

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 01:53 | 4730999 pitz
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Similar used 777 aircraft can be had for $40-$50M from the used plane lot.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:28 | 4730345 Bay of Pigs
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Maybe the Italians went looking for some of their gold because the William Dudley informed them he didnt have it anymore at the NYFED.

Sounds plausible that some grease ball shit was going down.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:17 | 4730656 Edward1290
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former head of said NYFED and Sec of the debt-based fiat money sysyem (treasury)....Timmy G just met with the president of China......Im sure he was representing the 'deep state'

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:30 | 4730348 One And Only
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what is the undisclosed 2 tonnes of cargo?

The US Treausury bonds Belgium purchased last month?

Michelle Obama's snacks?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:31 | 4730510 DirkDiggler11
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No, the "Wookie's" snacks arrive by rail car, cargo capacity limits on planes you know. If you need to know, specifically on BNSF freight cars and tankers, courtesy of Mr Buffet of course...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:28 | 4730350 Jim in MN
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Mangosteen!

Mangosteen mangosteen MANGOSTEEN!

Now shut up everyone!

 

 

 

MANGOSTEEN!!!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:49 | 4730405 Hulk
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LOL !!! Time for a vacation Jim...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:31 | 4730354 autofixer
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This is not new info.  That was reported by the MH spokesman 6 weeks ago.  US passenger airlines are not allowed to carry Lithium batteries as cargo.  FedEx and UPS have lost airplanes due to Lithium batteries.  I have been saying the airplane was lost probably lost to a fire due to these batteries for 6 weeks.  The loss of systems and the airplane routing are consistent with a fire and attempt to divert.  If the crew lost consciousness due to CO2, it would just fly until the fuel was exhausted. Never let a good conspiracy story get in the way of the facts. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:55 | 4730421 F-X
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First you use the qualifier "probably" in your explanation, then you conclude that this is "the facts".

 

Which is it?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 13:37 | 4732519 Matt
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Fact #1: lithium batteries are highly flammable. See all the electic cars that caught fire underwater.

Fact #2: airplanes are not supposed to transport lithium batteries; it says so right on the batteries. Check out the Dreamliner.

Fact #3: this plane was carrying 200 Kg of Lithium batteries. See the cargo manifest.

Check out Occam's Razor, Hanlon's Razor.

It is most probable that the Lithium Batteries caused a fire. This is consistant with the report from the oil rig that saw a fireball in the sky at the correct time and bearing the aircraft wa supposed to be flying along.

While many other events could have occured, we do not KNOW, and will likely never KNOW the truth. This is probably what happened. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:34 | 4730363 thedrickster
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That's the first reference to "fresh mangosteens" that I have seen. Mangosteens don't appear to have been in season:

"In Malaysia, it’s grew huge at Johor, Kelantan dan Perak. The season product mangosteen is from June until August"

http://www.malaysiafruit.com/mangosteen/mangosteen.php

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:36 | 4730364 james.connolly
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The battery story is bullshit, ... come on ZH.

They have never released the name of the battery who made it,... the only thing known is the company in china they were to be delivered.

The reason they don't tell us the name of the battery, or who supplied is then the battery company could deny, because the battery don't exist.

Best scenario for the 2 tons is ...

1.) That the plane had a captured Al-CIA-Duh drone, being sold to china, which is why china is silent on theft

2.) That there was GOLD, and that gold was used to buy malay, austrailia, ... all the players.

Battery's? FUCK NO move along, ... until they say whose battery's and the battery company comes forward the story is 100% bullshit.

SERCO-GROUP of UK, a BUSH-NAZI company from the 1920's in UK, they also are running OBAMACARE in the USA.

SERCO-GROUP also has HONEYWELL-SERCO, they made the BUAP ( boeing uninterruptible autopilot ), so ONLY SERCO could have remotely stole the plane, nobody else had access to the tech.

INMARSAT is also a BUSH-NAZI company they sent everyone to AUSTRIALIA, and INMARSAT supply's satellite downfeed for SERCO, a marriage made in HELL.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:56 | 4730425 ATM
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I tend to agree. My guess is that something was beig smuggled to China and the US found out and hijacked the plane to Diego Garcia, off loaded the shit and snuffed the witnesses. Could have been drome, could have been spy equipment, could have been remote control stuff..... who knows exactly?

If we are to beleive the Viet or Thai that the aircraft was on that southwesterly heading then it was going for Diego. That's the only place it could have made. And what sits on that little spec of shit in the center of the Indian ocean? 

Yeah, exactly.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:08 | 4730455 espirit
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The cargo was servers belonging to Decima.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:49 | 4730564 james.connolly
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The CARGO that SERCO-GROUP wanted  was 'HUMANS', FREESCALE engineers. SERCO needed the KL-02, so they could implement the OBAMACHIP as that was their contract under OBAMA-CARE for BILLIONS of USD.

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The physical cargo on MH-370 is all bullshit, to distract,... and silence, payoffs, Malay/Austrailia/CHINA they got GOLD and USA drones.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 08:08 | 4731280 Poor Grogman
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Ahh yes

The Moon-Bat himself commenting on batteries.

How appropriate...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:49 | 4730565 james.connolly
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The CARGO that SERCO-GROUP wanted  was 'HUMANS', FREESCALE engineers. SERCO needed the KL-02, so they could implement the OBAMACHIP as that was their contract under OBAMA-CARE for BILLIONS of USD.

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The physical cargo on MH-370 is all bullshit, to distract,... and silence, payoffs, Malay/Austrailia/CHINA they got GOLD and USA drones.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:31 | 4731071 Blizzard_Esq
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" implement the OBAMACHIP"

 

This is insane. Read more about KL-02, its nothing special by the way. You're manic. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:21 | 4730485 Ban KKiller
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Looking at Serco there is no doubt they control many things from end to end. Thanks for making me more informed, aka, fucking paranoid. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:46 | 4730559 james.connolly
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SERCO is the most important CIA/MI-6/MOSSAD company you never heard of,

A UK company, started in 1920's by BUSH, as a UK based NAZI 'RADIO' company so that HITLER's speech's could be heard by all, not long after BUSH had given HITLER $25M USD because he made such good speeches.

Today in UK, USA, and AUSTRAILIA SERCO-GROUP controls the ground, AIR, and space.

Best of ALL they CONTROL OBAMA-CARE.,

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I repeat SERCO-HONEYWELL, built and designed BUAP in 2007, the very TECH that let's you turn any airplane into a DRONE.

BUAP - Boeing Uninterruptible AUTOPILOT

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:00 | 4731186 Curiously_Crazy
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"SERCO is the most important CIA/MI-6/MOSSAD company you never heard of"

 

Oh do calm down won't ya. I too saw the video on youtube bloody years ago titled almost exactly what you called them ("The biggest company  you've never heard of"). I'm also well aware of what they do and don't have their fingers in. You really ought to stop using *all* in your rants..  "SERCO control ALL air trafiic control" and "SERCO control ALL prisons and immigration" and "SERCO control ALL important defence contracts" etc etc.Bullshit - they are a sleazy big company in bed with governments around the world just like a lot of other firms, but to suggest they are the string puller is just nuts.

You exaggerate everything totally out of proportion and it's manic depressives like you that stops so many people even considering another side to any story.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:38 | 4730365 Ban KKiller
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Who benefits? I think the plane will be used to bomb Greenwich or the Hamptons. Greenwich in the fall is my best bet. Hamptons are not dense enough...but Greenwich is juicy!

The rich ALWAYS wonder, after the fall, "weren't the serfs happy in their slavery"? 

Long lead and silver beaches.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:53 | 4730419 james.connolly
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Obama-Care, that's who benefits, this entire story is/was always about Obama-Care.

Any of you see the new "ROBOCOP" movie? The company will do anything to get robot-cops into the USA market, but nobody will allow it, but in 3rd world country's of course the robot's run wild.

SERCO-GROUP has been CHIPPING&TAGGING the world, but there was opposition to do so in the USA, with OBAMA-CARE it creates the perfect scenario to "CHIP" the nation, essentially turn every citizens into a WIFI tracking device.

The 'CHIP' exists, it had been developed by FREESCALE, and known as KL-02 ( KL for Kuala Lampur ), Freescale was about to transfer the TECH to CHINA, USA/CIA couldn't accept because they want to have sole exclusive controls of 'backdoor' in the OBAMA-CHIP, that would be in every citizen.

So SERCO-GROUP steals the plane, and the engineers so, that they OWN the CHIP, and get 100's of billions of USD's to make every human in the USA a tracking device.

Lastly, SERCO-GROUP is broke in the last 1-2 years they are on their death bed, so like the USA they have gone completely fucking nuts.

OBAMA gave SERCO the contract to CHIP every USA citizen, because that way TEAM-BUSH ( ZIO-NEO-CON ) would sign off on OBAMA-CARE

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:15 | 4730800 TheAnswerIs42
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Eh,OK

So lemme get this straight, and please correct if I'm  wrong.

There is a CHIP (RFID) which can be implanted and not only tracks, but controls the implanted subjects behavior.

Am I following you so far?

So some how this CHIP gains an enormous amount of energy from it's human implantee to not only allow remote satellite tracking (from 23000 geosynchronous miles)  but also by some other unknown microbiological mechanism total mind control?
Why I am still paying for electricity, let alone cable?

Wowsa.

 

 

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:01 | 4730876 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Jesus fuck mate, you have a vivid imagination.

Maybe, just maybe Malaysian Airlines was transporting Lithium ion batteries in quantities greater than allowed and as a reult the plane had a catasrophic fire.

Look, I know you can't believe anything a government tells you but for fucks sake, the talk in this thread is bordering on hallucinogenic.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 04:04 | 4731090 Poor Grogman
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Occam's razor

Unfortunately not very exciting.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 11:57 | 4732108 Almost Solvent
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Generally I agree, but there are too many things:

 

(1) Massive change in heading

(2) Loss of verbal communication coupled with

(3) Transponders turned off

(4) No radar contact

 

- Even if there was a fire that killed everyone on board and somehow diabled the transponders, then the autopilot should have kept it on course to Bejing. Even if that fire also disabled the autopilot, the plan should have crashed over Vietnam. Which would have been seen by radar.

 

- The only other simple answer is that there was an explosion that blew up the plane - but again, over Vietnam where evidence should have been found on the ground already.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 14:32 | 4732778 optioneer
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Clearly none of you have seen RoboCop. Because this totally happens.

Wed, 05/07/2014 - 07:30 | 4735285 Poor Grogman
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Here is one Possible scenario that would fit many of the known facts.

Dangerous goods leakage/ fumes/ blast/ toxic release.

Flight crew running emergency checklists

Hasty Diversion turn initiated

No comms or radar return because transponder is inoperative due to fire or small lithium explosion. Which does not down the aircraft because of crew actions and fire fighting with manual and automatic systems.

All in vain as Fumes quickly disable/ kill all persons on board.

Aircraft continues on in radio silence on auto pilot till fuel exhaustion.

Unlikely yes ... but not impossible...given the known facts.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:39 | 4730369 Robert.Paulson
Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:44 | 4730384 I Write Code
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Mangosteen ~ Heroeen, it's self-evident.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:19 | 4730438 thedrickster
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4500 kg of "fresh mangosteens" out of season, that is 4,500,000 grams. According to this handy dandy site, Heroeen runs $67 per gram in China and $9 per gram in Malaysia:

http://www.havocscope.com/black-market-prices/heroin-prices/

Just for fun, at $58/g that is $261M of "Mangosteens". Worth stealing a 777? I dunno. Would it be worth killing 230 people to keep it quiet?

Thought expiriment, imagine it was heroin and some high ranking Chinese and Malay government official were involved in the transaction. Captain Shah's opposition leader friend Ibrahim gets word and the two hatch a plot whereby MH370 lands under some pretense, to ensure that the nature of the nefarious cargo is exposed. A thinly veiled threat is issued over ATC comms (edited out), the plane crosses the Malay peninsula, it's opiate cargo essentially held hostage. Release Ibrahim from jail or we expose the cargo.

Haven't a clue how the story ends. Thought they could stretch it to Perth? Shot down by some government? Made it undetected to the Stans?

So tell me more about the Mangosteens.

Suppose this could also work with stolen gold.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:48 | 4730399 XitSam
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I didn't see Lost, but isn't this how it started?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:53 | 4730410 Hulk
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Lost, xfiles, kingworldnews,Harvey Organ,  backwardization, gofo, mh370, its all like having sex without an orgasm...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:49 | 4730407 Haole
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The two U.S. Special Forces guys, with 50 years experience between them, that were guarding the cargo before it went on the plane were both found dead the day after of suspicious circumstances were they not?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:02 | 4730439 james.connolly
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I don't know whether 2 dead SOF is true or not, but if the cargo was a captured al-cia-duh drone to be sold to china,... it would make sense that it be protected by praetorians on the BUSH payroll.

Battery story is BULLSHIT, until Manufacturer comes forward and confirms, and to date they haven't because MALAY refuses to name the manufacturer.

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The drone story is interesting, because it existed a long time ago, essentially when AFGHAN was getting shut down, our own CIA guys stole a complete drone system in the box, and sold it, eventually it ended up in MALAY, and got bought by CHINA,... Supposedly the package includes the drone, and the transmitter box, and the TV monitor, the whole fucking package.

Perhaps CHINA didn't even 'buy it', maybe it was being shipped to CHINA to be auctioned? Who knows,  but this story is fairly wide, and given that 100's of billions of AFGHAN/IRAQ HW is being shipped 'home', and most of it is unaccounted for it makes sense that dozens of these drone packages have dissapeared and are in search of a buyer.

What's clear by silence, is that all gubmints are involved in bullshit.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:27 | 4730504 nmewn
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Well, its all very interesting but the ex-seals overdosed, on a ship, "supposedly protecting the cargo" in question and were found dead when it docked in Port Victoria, Seychelles.  That would be on the other side of the Indian Ocean from Malaysia. The seals were on the ship to protect the ship (not the cargo) from pirates.

Which begs the question, if Russian news/propaganda is correct, who else was on the ship to make sure that "the cargo" made it to the airport?

Just ask the captain ;-)

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:42 | 4730530 james.connolly
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I agree that  these two seals that died, didn't have fuck to do with MH370,

That said a shit-load of SOG's have died in the past 30 years, dozens of DELTA and NAVY SEAL, all suspicious death,

The deal is that dead men tell no tales,

I was friend with Colonel Beckwith, founder of DELTA-FORCE, and he was so fucking pissed they ( RENO ) sent his boys in to murder the branch-davidian children, he personally went to WASH-DC to 'kill' ( in speech, but he vocally PISSED to the max ) the politicians, shortly after that they killed him,.. and that was fucking 20+ years ago

DELTA and SEALS were NOT made to KILL USA citizens, but PTB seems to think otherwise, every SEAL and DELTA that have vocally condemened their mission have died.

>>>

The thing with SOG is they tend to be MAX alpha-males, but also highly inteliigent 'family guys'. Patriotic to the max, not the kind of person that the PTB wants, the PTB want's MORON ROBOTS.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:07 | 4730620 nmewn
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Agreed.

They are highly intellegent, highly skilled, risk taking alpha-males that the PTB can't live without.

And dread, when they "retire" ;-)

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:20 | 4730665 james.connolly
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Mewn,

I have trained with these guys, they're all outspoken and pissed, they're not like normal 'soldiers' who are taught to just stand there and be humiliated.

IMHO the PTB doesn't like SOG's the entire notion of SOG is new, ... Green Beret was first public,... Navy Seal was kept secret, and certainly DELTA.

The idea of spending millions on one man, and making a 'superman' is something the PTB doesn't want, they want a nation of morons.

Watch closely GOOGLE is spending a fortune on a ROBOT-ARMY, already have robot car's, and robot-planes.

SOG ( special operation group ) are special men, and everyone I have met ( 90% ) are pissed about how they're deployed. The 10% that aren't pissed I don't know, .. the silent type.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:54 | 4730751 nmewn
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The ones "in" are not supposed to talk. The ones "out" certainly do. The ones "in" talk to the ones who are now "out" and they are pissed, as you say.

The silent ones always look at you with that knowing smile that they have when this subject is raised (followed by silence) so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

They are us.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:06 | 4730887 BringOnTheAsteroid
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I take it you're not familiar with the term Occams Razor. NAHHHH, the story about the plane carrying batteries is bullshit, the plane was definitely carrying a captured US drone and engineers familiar with chip implant technology to control all US citizens via satellite all under the guise of Obama-care and a Bush NEO-CON controlled company called SERCO.

FUCK ME, wouuld this market hurry up and crash before every cunt on this forum goes stark raving mad.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:17 | 4730474 Buckaroo Banzai
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The two SEALS-- who were riding shotgun on the Maersk Alabama (of "Captain Phillips" fame)-- were found dead on Feb. 18th on the ship just off the coast of Madagascar. Allegedly dying of heroin and alcohol.

Allegedly they bought heroin the day before in the Seychelles, at least according to the two prostitutes they were with.

My understanding is you can pay a prostitute to do or say anything. But what do I know about prostitutes?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:50 | 4730409 nmewn
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Its like James Bond meets Green Energy engaging in theft and throws him into the Black Hole of CFTC Bwaney Fwankism after taking out expenses for CNN wall to wall 24/7 coverage of looking in all the wrong places...or something.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:51 | 4730413 TheMerryPrankster
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so  those 2 dead ex navy seals died of a drug overdose guarding lithium batteries?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:58 | 4730430 Spungo
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Alright so it's weird that it contained something flammable and Tylers all think this flammable material was gold? wtf? If I had to come up with a conspiracy, I would say it's a crude bomb. Without a conspiracy, I would say it was an accident involving batteries and some unknown flammable material. Even 10 gallons of gasoline and a battery fire would be enough to take down an entire jet or apartment building. Fire bad.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:22 | 4730489 andrewp111
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Then why edit (fake) the recordings? There has to be more to it. Something political.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:29 | 4730507 james.connolly
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In all great lies there is always an element of truth.

But in the case the truth is that SERCO-GROUP run's ATC, LOGISTIC's, everything that fly's, fuck's, roll's on the ground, and run's in space.

When everybody is feed another SHIT,...

It's like when the plane dissapeared at 1:30am, but not missing until 8am,... WHY?

Because ATC was so fucked up, nobody would make the call, because nobody was sure of anything,

Who was FEEDING all the 'FAULTY' INTEL to ATC in MALAY? SERCO; SERCO run's ATC in UK, and most of the 3rd world, they run satellite feed, they control everything, ... easy for them to FEED SHIT, and make MALAYASIA into MUSHROOMS.

Who stole the plane? SERCO

The thing you need understand that 'authoritarian' gubmint like MALAY get their power from 'confidence', so they FIXED all the shit POST to cover their sorry asses, now they're so deep in LIES they can't get out.

ME thinks this was all planned, CHINA wants the MALAY gubmint, and then they can get the CANAL through MALAY to make it easier to SHIP SAUDI oil to CHINA.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:31 | 4730512 james.connolly
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Something political.

JEEBUS fucking christ that is like saying "Somebody was breATHING"

What is politic's UNICORNS?

"Politics is WAR by other means".

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:14 | 4730904 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Because if Malaysian Airlines was breaking the rules by carrying more Lithium batteries than allowed and this became public knowledge the airline would be a deep shit, be sued into oblivion and go bust thereby adding a few thousand people to the unemployed queue which the Malaysian government would attempt to avoid like the plague. Either that of many members of the Malaysian government have shares in Malaysian Airlines. My story isn't as sexy and mysterious as the chip implant, drone, navy seals dying, SERCO neo-con connected Bush Zionism smuggling gold conspiracy but it's FAR MORE FUCKING LIKELY.

Look, can everyone just go back to rabbiting on about the invisible grey bearded skyman that communicates telepathically to people because even that is more believable than the shit discussed in this thread.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:59 | 4730433 kurt
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This information

Disinformation

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:06 | 4730449 dexter_morgan
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All this CT stuff is lots of fun and some get pretty imaginative with it - yes james.connolly I'm talking about you - but why couldn't it just be that these batteries exploded, the plane caught fire, crew and all died of smoke inhalation, and they all crashed in the ocean?

Just askin.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:20 | 4730484 andrewp111
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Then why all the cover ups and reluctant disclosures? The Malaysian Government is covering something up. Something big.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:24 | 4730497 james.connolly
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Google "Political Secretary Malay MH-370"

Even the politicians of Malay, the main players are saying this was CIA/BUSH theft, ... its only in the west that you ain't hearing the truth.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 10:34 | 4731816 dexter_morgan
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And, if Malay politicians are anything like ours, and I suspect they are, then why would we trust them?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:16 | 4730651 The Wedge
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Asian governments will cover anything up that even remotely makes them look bad. The fact that they lost an airplane with 200 people is enough for a cover up. You have to understand the culture, a stigma is placed on anyone bringing shame or embarrassment to the government. They would rather you think it a giant conspiracy than realize how utterly incompetent they were/are. As this plane tragedy was unfolding the Malaysian authorities made blunder after blunder as they were under enormous pressure from outside and inside the government. Made obvious conflicting statements and generally looked like a monkey f*cking a football.

I guarantee you the Malaysian officials investigating this were first tasked to avoid anything that reflects badly on the government. And if you were part of the airline or air traffic control, you'd be covering your ass too. So that's why it seems like some cover up, it is a cover up, or rather cover their/your ass. Sad.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:22 | 4730490 james.connolly
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Because there never were any battery's non-existant battery's don't make fire, not even in a world where unicorn's live.

If the battery's existed, then MALAY would have named the manufacturer, they have not,... they don't because once they name the manufacturer the lawsuits begin and attorneys will prove there were never any battery's.

>>>

The plane was stolen by remote, only one company on earth had access to that TECH,  and that was SERCO-GROUP ( Serco-Honeywell ) they built the BUAP ( boeing autopilot ).

Serco-Group needed the Freescale engineers, because they had just got the OBAMA-CARE contract to 'chip/tag' every USA citizen, SERCO-GROUP is almost in DEFAULT, its an OLD BUSH-TRIBE company out of UK; they were desperate to expedite this project, and FREESCALE wouldnt' play along,...

FREESCALE was looking at the game/toy business worth 100's billions, and SERCO was only willing to pay millions for the KL-02.

Problem with BUSH NAZI tribe is they're sore losers, if you don't sell them your first born son for  a nickel, then they just kill him.

 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:43 | 4730546 The Wedge
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LOL!!! OOOOOOK!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:54 | 4730581 aardvarkk
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Fess up.  You just had a tryst with Bush and he didn't give you the reach-around you felt you deserved.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:07 | 4730452 eddiebe
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It was pallets of 100$ bills going to Japan to finance the carry.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:13 | 4730462 dexter_morgan
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Maybe it was big pharma that took that plane down. Everyone knows mangosteens are have big time antioxidant properties and this shipment could be the start of wiping cancer out as we know it, and big pharma and the entrenched medical PTB just couldn't allow that to happen@!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:14 | 4730466 Spungo
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I put the dimensions of that 2250kg thing into Excel. I get a total volume of 8351428 cubic cm. At 2250000g, that would put the bulk density at 0.27 g/cm^3, a little over 1/4 the density of water. I seriously doubt it's gold. How much packing material would someone use for shipping gold? Would the thing be 90% packing material? Probably not, but I've never shipped gold before.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:15 | 4730469 Grouchy Marx
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Bootleg CD recordings from America of Chinese musical groups.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:18 | 4730476 Ned Zeppelin
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Rampant speculation.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:19 | 4730480 Spungo
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Maybe they were shipping a weather baloon.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:20 | 4730482 Dr. Engali
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Two tonns of gold, while a lot of money to us, hardly seems worth the effort to somebody or somebodies who have the capability of disappearing a 777 it's crew and passengers. To me it would have to be something more sinister in nature.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:33 | 4730518 hangemhigh77
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At these prices yeah but future price at 50k an ounce? Oh yeah.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:59 | 4730594 Bobportlandor
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Another words time to move out of NY.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:10 | 4730606 Pazuzu
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Two tons of gold seems to make more bottom line sense than a drone that you could fit into the lower lobe cargo compartments on a 777. I can't see anybody disappearing  ten dozen of somebody's loved ones and a 1/4 billion dollar plane for that type of technical intelligence advantage, as fleeting and ephemeral as they can be. Not even for the skinny on a Global Hawk; for sure not for a UAV that fits into several small crates. 

The more I look at this riddle the more I think that folks after intel, Au or classified hardware would not want every literate person on Earth wondering what happened; this kind of op wouild be way down the list of options unless it was super time sensitive problem that vanishing this plane solved.

That leads me to lean almost imperceptibly towards the plane itself as what the bad guys were after.  Prepare for the Mother of all false flagellations.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:10 | 4730784 Blood Spattered...
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And the good Dr. is right on the money again :)

What could weigh two tons that would be worth hijacking a 777 over?

Think of how much a 777 is worth. That cargo has to be worth exponentially more.  Or maybe the effect of the cargo being 'used' in some fashion was worth it?

Either way, we're probably talking trillions here.  I doubt it's nukes either. 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 08:30 | 4731326 pies_lancuchowy
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84 million USD.  Probably you are right. But you can't exclude that. Money is the answer to so many unexplained mysteries. In my country people kill for a 100 USD from time to time

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:24 | 4730496 Duc888
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dexter-morgan :All this CT stuff is lots of fun and some get pretty imaginative with it - yes james.connolly I'm talking about you - but why couldn't it just be that these batteries exploded, the plane caught fire, crew and all died of smoke inhalation, and they all crashed in the ocean?

Just askin.

 

Well, why won't Rolls Royce release their in flight data that is recorded "real time" every time an engine they make is started up and running?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:08 | 4730625 james.connolly
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Why is that the company that stole the AIRPLANE, .e.g. INMARSAT/SERCO, why are they the people running the show and search?

The fox is guarding the henhouse, and unicorns are asking "What happened to our chickens?"

That nobody on  earth is will willing to speak the truth is telling.

What is most fascinating in my mind is that SERCO was given the OBAMA-CARE contract, and just a few months ago ZH hated Obama-Care, but then after OBAMA gave the contract to a BUSH-NAZI company hate, turns to love. Go figure.

What is real in a world of Unicorns and Fairys?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:26 | 4730501 tony bonn
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the cargo was plutonium bombs....the mh370 was hijacked by the usa ziocons who took it to pakistan where it picked up the plutonium....the plane went to uk where the shipment was split into 3 lots...the murderer in the white house and his puppet masters are planning another 9/11 fake attack on us soil....

the us dollar is going under, the project for a new american century is suffering a bit, and the murderer is about to be exposed as bari shabazz who is married to a drag queen known as michelle.....so the murderers need some more fire works....one of those shipments may have been sent to the ukraine where that ?unt julia (can't pronounce her last name) wants 8 million russians dead.

the genocidal ziocons are sick people, and they will stop at nothing to bring about their new world order.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:42 | 4731030 therearetoomany...
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Whether these are crazed rantings of a KOOK or someone who knows something - I have heard 'alternate media' types say this plane will be a missle headed to NYC and the new WTC.  

Resume the Honey Boo Boo marathon.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:28 | 4730505 esum
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why not look off bangladesh

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:31 | 4730513 hangemhigh77
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Gold. Duhhhhh

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:38 | 4730526 CoastalCowboy
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No matter what. Lithium is some incredibly reactive shit and anything containing it must be handled with kid gloves as in no contact with water or oxygen.

Ever heard of the stories of cell phones burning people to hell and back. Lithium is the reason.

Lithium fires are a very serious situation. To load a commercial flight with Lithium batteries is the epitome of negligence. Lithium ion batteries are inherently dangerous.

Cargo manifests are not BS. That flight went down in a ball of literal hellfire.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:38 | 4730531 aardvarkk
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Nigerian yellowcake.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:58 | 4730591 shankster
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Yummy!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:39 | 4730537 Made in Occupie...
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Maybe the mysterious cargo is gold headed to Beijing.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:57 | 4730587 shankster
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Jimmy Hoffa

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:04 | 4730614 kchrisc
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I don't know about others, but with Sandy Hoax and Boston Boom fresh in my head, I'm beginning to lean toward no plane went missing.

Ironically, I am more content believing that scenario than that there was ever a real missing plane.

Strange upside down world.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:16 | 4730650 Wahooo
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"Lithium batteries" heading to Ukraine en route to Syria, paid for by Israel with German gold. And there you have it.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 09:19 | 4731491 smacker
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Except that MH370 appeared on private radar trackers like flightradar24.com.

The flight certainly existed, whether it really disappeared I dunno. But don't you think one of the passengers on the flight would have spilled the beans by now??

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:05 | 4730615 Peter Pan
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Well, I did right yesterday in a ZH post that someone or something was on that flight that the USA did not want to reach China.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:14 | 4730639 james.connolly
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Obama had just spent over a BILLION dollars on SERCO to deliver the OBAMA-CHIP, Freescale KL-02 had been chosen.

Freescale was about to send 20 engineers to CHINA, so that CHINA could also make this same chip.

DARPA (DOD US-MIL) threw a fit, had the CHINESE got the KL-02, then the CIA/NSA would not hold the sole monopoly have back door access to every america citizens body.

SERCO gladly stole the chip, after all now they don't have to pay any license fee, they own the bitch.

In many ways this is like 'operation paperclip', USA steals MALAYSIAN scientists, and sends them to the WEST  because  the USA can't do the shit themselves.


 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:11 | 4730899 lakecity55
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The Bath House Chip?

This means Bath House is 666!

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:57 | 4731045 Blizzard_Esq
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Do you have evidence of these theories? Any citation that is not citing itself? 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 23:21 | 4734793 james.connolly
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Google "OBAMACARE SERCO"

Patient Protection Act - OBAMA CARE Forbes did a story last year, ... all went to SERCO-GROUP, like INMARSAT all based in UK, and all things are BUSH-TRIBE holding companys.

Funny ZH hates OBAMA-CARE, but is silent on the fact that it is OWNED by BUSH-TRIBE.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:08 | 4730626 chirobliss
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Benghazi!!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:15 | 4730644 Real Estate Geek
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A few days ago, someone posted an interesting theory in the ZH comments.  I can’t find his post, but the guy posited that the US lost one of its mobile drone control centers that it was shipping back to the US.  The Taliban supposedly ambushed them on the trail.  The Chinese bought the system and shipped it home on MH-370.

The US tracked down the missing equipment and used AWACS to remotely fly the plane to Diego Garcia.  The US got back its shit and disposed of the plane.  Dead men tell no tales. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:30 | 4730683 james.connolly
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This is combination of two different story's, first of all a DRONE package will NOT over-ride a civilian airline. A drone package is encrypted and only controls the DRONE that it belongs.

Many 'drone packages' have gone missing, but they only fly drones, ... which are just large hobby airplanes. Nothing new here.

>>>

The MH-370 is  a BOEING-777, after 2007 all CIVILIAN mega-planes were equipped with UAP ( uninterruptible autopilot ), Post 911 the NSA/CIA decided the best way to prevent another 911, was to be able to take control of an airplane.

SERCO-HONEYWELL got the contract, the way it works is from satellite they can download new firmware, which then allows the plane to be flown remotely, but only by authorization of the USA president.

In Boeing planes the UAP is called BUAP, for Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot. Produced by SERCO-HONEYWELL.

Obama was most likely involved because stealing the KL-02 was in his interest as that SERCO-GROUP had got the contract to CHIP/TAG every USA citizen with a smart-chip ( obama-chip ).

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:51 | 4730739 Yes We Can. But...
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Where they plan on inserting everyone's ObamaChip?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:56 | 4731179 james.connolly
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The Obama-Chip ( Freescale KL-02 ) is digestible, and can be inserted on the ass as a normal device would be implanted in a dog, or in your arm, ... where the fuck do you want to be implanted?.

Hell it can be placed in a cavity hole in a tooth, where would you like your fuckiing Obama Chip.

If you WANT your OBAMA CHIP, you CAN KEEP your Obama Chip.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:39 | 4730843 Real Estate Geek
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Learn to read, Jimmy.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 04:37 | 4731104 Poor Grogman
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Dude, you are full of shit.

The only question is are you insane, mischievous or a paid disinformation agent.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:16 | 4730648 Sathington Willougby
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I've heard a lot of talk about boating accidents but this certainly tests the limits of credulity for this class of mishaps.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:22 | 4730667 Sick
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Note (800)-434-9300 is for http://www.chemtrec.com/ This shipment would also have a commercial invoice indicating what it was with a harmonization code.

Curious about the 67 loose pieces

58 pcs, 60cm x 26cm x 22cm = 34,320 cubic cm each; or 1.21 cu ft each with packing

9pcs, 42cm x 36cm x 19cm = 28,728 cubic cm each; 28,728cu cm each or 1.014 cu ft each with packing

The total volume of the 67 pcs= 79.306 cu ft, maybe 60 cu ft without packing

The total weight of the 67pcs=463kg, 6.9kgs/each with packaging, maybe 6 kgs or ~13 lbs each without packaging.

These batteries are quite large for their weight which indicates they may be high efficiency.  To be air freighted (expensive) means that they are valuable and needed quickly.  I would bet they are for some industrial or military use.

 

I found some spec sheets and MSDS but do not want to harm a company that may not be the supplier.  All I can say is if what I have seen is what was on the plane, it should not have been on the plane with the hazard classifications.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 04:25 | 4731099 supermaxedout
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harmonization code  That is the key word.

If it was a commercial shipment it has to .be accompanied by a commercial invoice, This is for custom purposes. Since China and Malaysia are not within a costums union this is mandatory to pass through the Chinese custom.  Such Commercial Invoice has to show each item including the number according to the harmonization code.The harmonization code is the base for the import duty calculation.

And if its a hazarous material (and this can be quite trivial stuff like a can of spray paint or a shipment with a smll amount of dry ice (carbon dioxide) then it needs to be shown on the commercial invoice too, as well as on the shipment.  I can not imagine any cargo agent from an airline letting a shipment go with such a weight accompanied with un-accurate shipping documents. Since the problem is, that the airline as the forwarder might be also on the hook financially if there are problems with the shipment. When goods are "hanging" at the costums there do cost arise which can be quite high especially when its hazardous material. In case the sender does not pay its the forwarder who has to pay for everything.  So there are strict rules inside the airline or forwarder.

I have prepared hundreds of airfreight shipments including the documents to destinations around the world often containuing hazardous materials  and I can tell you the rules are very strict "under normal circumstances".  Its of course possible that one makes a wrong declaration be it out of inexperience or purpose. No matter what, when the papers are not "good" looking or not complete and when such a weight is involved in an air shipment, then a red light is starting to flash at the forwarder or airline.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:26 | 4730676 fzrkid
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$3.1477768 per pound for mangosteen.... That is just the cost in freight, never mind margin. (That is converted from MYR to USD) and cost of fruit..

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:40 | 4730709 xavi1951
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Two tons of Atari video games recovered forma Mexican garbage dump.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:33 | 4730925 Ban KKiller
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That is NEW Mexican. 

Breakfast burrito with roasted potatoes, fresh egg, bacon, cheese, herbs. With green, of course. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:42 | 4730714 Jesse
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Germany's gold.  oops.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:54 | 4730749 Manthong
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Looks like it’s time to call Odyssey Marine.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:40 | 4730930 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, but I think Malaysia would claim it as theirs, and no way we would see the light of day.  O.M. found that gold froma Spanish shipwreck, and a US court gave it to Spain (not to Peru, from whom it had been robbed as a colony of Spain).

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:36 | 4731077 Manthong
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That deal was screwed up all the way around by the US "Justice" system.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:21 | 4731014 space junk
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Hell frickin' yeah!  Oddyssey'd find it, no bout a doubt it....

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:00 | 4730757 j8h9
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the mystery cargo is GOLD of course...

or the missing african women kidnapped by the radical muslims as sex slaves

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:58 | 4730758 the grateful un...
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2 tons is FREIGHT and this is a commercial airliner where your carryon baggage is scrutinized. 2 TONS of a NONPERISHABLE COMMODITY, okay two tons of lobster, or filet mignon or?? but two tons of batteries? methinks the plane has not crashed yet.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:04 | 4730772 junction
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Stolen artwork from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum in Boston and from several European museums, all boxed in heavy steel containers to prevent the art masterpieces from being stolen again.  That did not work out well, did it? 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:07 | 4730777 Emergcy
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Many weeks ago when I drove with a taxi from Malaysian Airport to Kuala Lumpur the taxi driver told me that there was US drohne on board which was sold from Taliban to China. The plane was then "made lost" by CIA in cooperation with Malaysian government.

Maybe last week when Obama met the prime minister in Kuala Lumpur he thanked personally the prime minister for good cooperation.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:07 | 4730779 ramacers
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three  words: otto skorzeny like.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:11 | 4730788 One of We
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Anyone seen Chris Christie lately?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:28 | 4730825 TalkToLind
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<-- Germany's Gold Bullion

<-- 8 palletized bladder tanks filled with chemtrail solution.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:41 | 4730846 thedrickster
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Vibrating butt plugs w/ LiOn power packs.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:46 | 4730851 alentia
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Americans do not comment on MH370 because they are preoccupied with self created problem in Ukraine to divert the attention.

Plane had cargo and people related to the cargo. Anytime there is plane crash or anything like this, different US authorities nd agencies are all over the place, not this time.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:04 | 4730884 lakecity55
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It was a Black Hole generator, and the switch got bumped to "ON" in turbulence. Somebody failed to disconnect the BUB before shipping, and now it's.....gone.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:09 | 4730892 directaction
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A conspiracy of any sort involving a mystery cargo and a disappearing commercial airplane filled with civilian passengers would require silence from far too many people to be plausible. It simply doesn't make sense.

The most likely cause was a deranged pilot, acting alone, and after decades of experience fully aware of how inept Malaysian ATCs are.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 01:27 | 4730980 zebrasquid
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Hillary's cankles?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 01:47 | 4730992 Bemused Observer
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2 tons of gold? Who cares? Unless the cargo included the coffin that Blankfein sleeps in during the day, or something like that, don't waste my time.

I fucking HATE the media. CNN zeroed in on this story like it was the second coming, MSLSD wanted to, but couldn't squeeze it in between airings of prison documentaries. Fox Snooze blamed it on Obama (I'm just guessing, I never actually HEARD them say this. But I'll bet real folding money that they DID...)

I get more factual, real-world information from QVC...

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:03 | 4731049 Rock On Roger
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Is that 'folding money' real?

 

Stack On

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 05:50 | 4731137 messymerry
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It's as real as the roll of paper in your throne room.  

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 13:47 | 4732566 Bemused Observer
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Oh yeah...100% gen-u-wine FIAT, bitchez!

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:22 | 4731017 qazwsx
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I love mangosteens 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:23 | 4731019 matrix2012
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Read MATTHIAS CHANG on MH370 Hidden Agenda.

He's a prominent Malaysian lawyer, author and former Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamad’s political secretary and adviser.

 

He says failing to answer these is inference showing ”they are complicit in the disappearance of MH 370.”

 

1)        Was the plane ordered to turn back? If so, who ordered that?

2)        Was the plane turned back manually or remotely?

3)        If the latter, which country or countries have technologies to execute that operation?

4)        Was MH370 weaponized before its flight to Beijing? 

5)        If so, what are likely methods for such a mission – biological weapons, dirty bombs?

6)        Was Beijing / China the target? And if so, why?

7)        Qui Bono?

8)     Why did US not offer any satellite intelligence until today? (Time sequence of countries identifying the alleged MH 370 debris in the Indian Ocean was first made by Australia followed by France, Thailand, Japan, and Britain via Immarsat.) 

9)        Before focusing on the Indian Ocean, was the SAR mission in South China seas a cover for deploying undersea equipment to track/monitor naval capabilities of all nations’ navies competing for ownership of disputed territorial waters? (Reuters seems to have suggested such an outcome.)

Diego Garcia

10)     Why has no focus, especially by foreign mass media, been on intel and surveillance capabilities of Diego Garcia, the US strategic naval and air base?

11)     Why were no questions asked whether the flight path of MH 370 (if it crashed in the Indian Ocean) was within geographical parameters of the Intelligence capabilities of Diego Garcia? Why were no planes deployed from Diego Garcia to intercept the “Unidentified” plane obviously posing a threat to Diego Gracia military base?

12)     Outdated capabilities of the Hexagon satellite system deployed by the US in the 1970s has a ground resolution of 0.6 meters and latest technologies boast the ability to identify objects much smaller in size. Why have such satellites not provided any images of alleged debris in the Indian Ocean? Were they deliberately withheld?

13)     On April 6, 2012, the US launched a mission dubbed “NROL-25” (a spy satellite) from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. The NROL-25 satellite was likely rigged with “synthetic aperture radar,” a system capable of observing targets around the globe in daylight and darkness, able to penetrate clouds and identify underground structures such as military bunkers. 

(The Navy ha reported: “It will be used to produce high-resolution imagery of military and terrorist facilities around the world,” said Jeffrey Richelson, a space reconnaissance expert with the National Security Archive. Though true capabilities of the satellites are classified top-secret, some analysts claimed the technology allows authorities to zoom in on items as small as a human fist from hundreds of miles away.)

 

How could no imagery of MH370 debris be forwarded to Malaysia, as this capability is not classified though other technologies might well remain classified? (Slate.com) Answer: “We would like to keep our adversaries guessing on what our capabilities are,” stated Rick Oborn, a spokesman for the intelligence agency National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the U.S. government agency that oversees the nation’s satellites. (Navy statement)

 

14)     Could the above capabilities not be as touted?

15)     In Dec. 2013, the USAtlas V rocket was launched carrying the spy satellite NROL-39 for the NRO, often overshadowed by the notorious National Security Agency (NSA), only it scoops data via spy satellites in outer space. The “NROL-39 emblem” is the Octopus — a versatile, adaptive, highly intelligent creature. Emblematically, enemies of the US can be reached no matter where they choose to hide. The emblem boldly states, “Nothing is beyond our reach.”… tentacles of America’s World Octopus are spreading across the globe to coil around everything within their grasp, which is, well, everything (Voice of Moscow). Yet, the US with such capabilities remained silent. Why?

Read the full article here.
Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:54 | 4731043 Blizzard_Esq
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The USA doesn't need to release whatever it has. If it did it would show American capabilities. 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:51 | 4731175 james.connolly
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Serco-Group that run's all CIA/MOSSAD/MI-6 technology for the world is based in UK, ... why?

Because the USA hasn't made shit since the Nazi's involved in OPERATION-PAPERCLIP died and retired.

The KL-02 ( freescale ) was made in Kuala-Lampur, because it couldn't be made in the USA.

Obama once asked Steve Jobs, "Can you bring back the APPLE iPHone and make it in the USA", to which Job's said "Impossible, and never going to happen".

 

America's capability's is all found watching Obama getting fucked by Reggie. America makes PORN, and bad actors like Kardashian, an Beiber.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:29 | 4731023 Joe A
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I read somewhere that the Russian military intelligence GRU were following the cargo of the plane.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:42 | 4731165 Took Red Pill
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Read that, too. Here it is;

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1753.htm

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:07 | 4731053 Youri Carma
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Flight 370: CLEAR EVIDENCE Who, What & Where it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ly4xHgOIzU

New Witnesses Are Exposing CIA’s Secret Diego Garcia ‘Black Site’ Jail! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHzRXePvn5Q

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:32 | 4731069 beaglebog
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Perhaps the discrepancy between the weights is the result of the batteries being charged.

 

Clearly, they would weigh more than flat batteries.

 

 

 

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Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:57 | 4731087 CashOnTheSidelines
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Not disclosing 2+ tonnes of the cargo for legal reasons stinks, but given they have acknowledged the existance of this unknown radio equipment / chargers, it does imply that eventually we will be shown the AWB and know the official record of what was on board. 

Having said that, if this was a conspiracy and they managed to disappear a plane, the relative simplicity of faking shipping documents means it matters little what the manifest and AWBs say!

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 05:56 | 4731138 john milton
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The papers tell it all, Kerry Logistics, has he been shipping democracy, hope & change again..and as always, it brought tears, deaths, chaos and sorrow

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 08:48 | 4731157 NuYawkFrankie
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re Mystery 2 Ton Cargo from Flight MH-370

 

Probably nothing more than a shipping-container full of  Hillary's molding & fetid pantsuit pants,  that they'd planned on jettisoning - for easy and safe disposal - over Fukushima

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:40 | 4731162 james.connolly
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Somebody asked, ... how do we know that SERCO GROUP is in charge of Obama Care? Well because FORBES told us so ...

The post, “Meet Serco, the private firm getting $1.2 billion to process your Obamacare application,” reported that 90 percent of Serco's U.S

http://www.forbes.com/sites/techonomy/2013/11/10/the-unhealthy-truth-abo...

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:43 | 4731166 rsnoble
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And let that be a lesson to anyone that trys using a passenger plane for illegal cargo because your citizens are a dime a dozen to us and that's when we're feeling generous.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:46 | 4731169 james.connolly
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A unincorn asked, how do we know that SERCO is involved in BUAP ( boeing uninterruptible autopilot ) ... ?

 Serco Passport Tag, ...... by end of 2009 all Boeing planes would be fitted with the BUAP - making them ...... aviation satellite markets, partners with the likes of Honeywell, and ...

BUAP-ATI Explanation* Bewildered Obama Leaves ... Handed *Serco's Obama Waltzes Into Honeywell Honeypot Set .

Serco is an international provider of systems, services and. consultancy, whose ... shareholders, Serco are one of the world leaders in the field of design and implementation of. complex .... Notifier-Honeywell ... Autopilots, Magnetic Compass.

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But wait SERCO-GROUP is also in charge of OBAMA-CARE, and they selected the KL-02 chip, and wait ... the FREESCALE chip engineers were about to send the technology to CHINA, ... what do you do? Kill everyone on the plane.


Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:52 | 4731176 esum
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the consolidators know in detail what every piece of freight is. the batteries would have been declared as dangerous cargo and handled as such. doubtful that anyone would ship that much gold on any flight. what have tehy found out from terrorists interrogations? the australian company lead has not been taken seriously, maybe it should be, as with the maldives sighting...

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:58 | 4731182 smacker
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Firstly, 10 out of 10 to Tylers for having raised the matter of the plane's cargo manifest at the very beginning of this incident in March.

 

If the Malaysian govt is involved in a giant conspiracy over MH370, it's most likely to be in cahoots with "other parties". This could be the planned disappearance or theft and cover up of certain cargo items (gold?, hi-tech electronics components? etc) or of certain passengers.

We don't know if the unexplained tons of items on the AWB cargo manifest were physically on board. They may have been "stolen" before loading and the plane then hijacked to hide the fact.

 

On the route of MH370: flightradar24.com posted a chart soon after MH370 disappeared showing the plane just east of Vietnam (further along its original flightpath to China than has been admitted and reported) and being very closely followed by another unidentified plane. Then suddenly, MH370 went off their radar and the other plane disappeared seconds later.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:07 | 4731193 james.connolly
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The problem is that NOBODY makes 2KG battery's and MOTOROLA is claiming they weren't theirs...

How about 2KG bar's of GOLD?

Maybe 2KG unicorns? Or 2kg fairy's? How about 2kg vibrators from Obama/Reggie love nest?

Who made the battery's? They  will not tell you. Why?

Because every battery maker will deny their battery's were on BOARD.

This entire debate about CARGO is BULLSHIT.

The story is about kidnapping the FREESCALE engineers and murdering the passengers.

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Malaysian authorities release MH370's full cargo manifest as part of the preliminary report on the missing plane.

The manifest showed NNR Global transported consolidated items - 133 pieces of one item weighing 1.99 tonnes, 67 pieces of another item weighing 463 kg, for a total weight of 2.453 tonnes.

According to a report from Malaysia Chronicle, the cargo came with a precaution that it should be handled with care due to flammable components.

However, a statement from Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Sunday sparked confusion as information revealed that it was not part of the cargo manifest stated in the preliminary report.

"About two tonnes, equivalent to 2,453 kg of cargo was declared as consolidated under one master airway bill. This master AWB actually comprised five house AWB. Of these five AWB, two contained lithium ion batteries amounting to a total tonnage volume of 221 kg. The balance three house AWB, amounting to 2,232 kg, were declared as radio accessories and chargers," MAS said in a statement.

A source from MAS said that the batteries weighed less than 200 kg but they were instructed not to reveal the remaining components of the 2.253 tonnes of cargo.

"I cannot reveal more because of the ongoing investigations. We have been told by our legal advisers not to talk about it," the source said.

According to the source as reported by The Star Online, he could not name the manufacturer of the batteries.

However, another source told fz.com that it was Motorola that shipped the cargo from its factory in Penang to the KL International Airport on March 6.

According to the report, the manifest indicated lithium ion batteries but did not mention radio accessories and chargers.

The air waybill from NNR Global Logistics Sdn Bhd revealed that it shipped on behalf of its client, Motorola. In detail two loads were packed - 1,990 kg with 133 pieces and 463 kg for 67 pieces.

The first load was shipped by NNR Global Logistics and the second load was forwarded by Kerry Logistics (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd.

The source said that it was confusing for MAS not to reveal the house air waybill. MAS may not have the master air waybill and cargo manifest, but this was not the case for house air waybill.

"It is understandable that MAS cannot reveal the other two documents simply because they may not have it. As for the house air waybill and packing list, the Customs Department, the freight forwarder  and the shipper should come forward and reveal them," the source told fz.com

Malaysia Airlines chief executive officer had since clarified that the lithium batteries were not hazardous.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 08:11 | 4731281 smacker
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"The story is about kidnapping the FREESCALE engineers and murdering the passengers."

Perhaps.

If I remember correctly, the Freescale engineers on board were on their way to Beijing (some of them were Chinese citizens working for Freescale in Texas) to discuss/report on some advanced drone technology they'd developed. Patents were to follow. It's quite possible they carried with them samples of electronic circuit boards, components and logic diagrams etc. That is what may have been in the cargo hold but not declared as such.

We don't know how advanced this stuff was but it's very possible that Washington did not want it to get into Chinese hands as it may have given the Chinese an ability to make its own advanced drones or to nullify current US drones. Perhaps it allowed US drones to be remotely hijacked and controlled by the Chinese etc. We just don't know.

It's also possible that kidnapping the Freescale engineers was the prime and only objective and the cargo contents is a distraction. But are we to believe they are now being forced to work on this technology against their will or having their knowledge "extracted" by someone? That could not be China since that's where the engineers were heading. And where might this location of "information extraction" be?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 23:15 | 4734776 james.connolly
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DARPA didn't want this technology going to CHINA,

The FREESCALE KL-02 had just been sold to OBAMA-CARE to be the

'chip', had the CHINESE got the chip, then the CHINESE would have the backdoor to the CHIP that is to go into every MIL and CITIZEN in UK,USA,AUSTRAILIA.

"Freescale KL-02" is a digestible computer, next generation COMBAT/TRACKING. SERCO-GROUP is in charge 'tagging humans' world-wide for CIA, owned by BUSH-TRIBE.

SERCO owned ATC, BUSH also owns INMARSTAT the satellite company that SENT all the lemmings to AUSTRAILIA.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:01 | 4731187 james.connolly
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The Unicorn's here seem to be confused about 'drones'.

A drone can be small, just a Camera on a little plane that collects INTEL,

A drone can be large, for 12 hour flights.

A drone can also be a FLYING-BOMB, that is used only once.

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The type of drone that was on MH-370 was of type-2, just a remote controlled flying airplane, no bigger than a car, and equipped with many camera's for collecting INTEL.

Not really interesting, thus I think this story is mostly BULLSHIT.

The BOMB kind of DRONE the one's that are flying bombs that kill people at wedding and funeral's they have self-destruct, so it virutally impossible to capture one, and certainly one cannot steal one and transport one because they're fucking 'container cargo' shit, not a little one ton box on a few pallets.

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So when people here talk about 'drones' we're just talking about little flying airplanes that the CIA uses all over the middle-east in 5-10KM zone to collect INTEL. Nothing really fucking secret, any hobbyist can make one with off the shelf technology, me thinks CHINA and RUSSIA already have them, the only use would be to study the live feed off the transmitter, so you could see LIVE what the CIA was seeing.

 

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:09 | 4731196 james.connolly
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A new mystery has emerged in MH370's disappearance with the ... He said he could not name the company which manufactured the batteries.

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They can't name the MANUFACTURER because there were NO battery's aboard the PLANE.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:17 | 4731207 22winmag
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If it were two tons of cocaine onboard, the plane would have been headed for... Arkansas?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:17 | 4731213 mr bear
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It's the briefcase from Pulp Fiction.

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