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Martin Armstrong Exposes The Saddest Side Of The Ukrainian Revolution
Ukrainian soldiers have nothing. People had been donating money to support them. While the West's injection of career politicians only replaced the head - Yanukovich - what is going on now is the corruption the people were revolting against is still in the first place. Money donated to the soldiers has not been getting to them. Now the Ukrainian people are simply bringing food to their own troops because the corruption takes the money. Ukraine's soldiers have taken to Facebook to ask for help...
Ukrainians abroad do not want to transfer any money more to help UA army, because there is too much corruption. Now they try to create some organized system, which would allow to send concrete things to Ukraine, the soldiers need food, not money to some strange accounts.
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Friends! Many times across the posts to ask for help. We are not living in Ukraine, helping money. But that's me personally send money somehow not very interesting. Namahalova much everywhere and betrayal! I propose to consider the system as much as possible to help things, and not money. For example, such a hundred sleeping bags needed, intercoms, knee pads, etc. Laid entire list (wish list), and you need to make reference to Ukrainian online shops where everything is available at exactly the model of goods which particularly need . Shipping address must be the same in Ukraine.
That is to say, you chaps, decide what quality \ size \ color, etc you need, give specific references to the right things, and we'll book these things online! Thus it is possible to some extent ot protect yourself from fraud. Address of the recipient must also be specified. And upon receipt of goods, it is desirable to make hundreds of pictures. Perhaps with online shopping, you can arrange to open a savings account they are for the recipient, something like a wish list, and so that people can go to the site and buy from a list of what they currently afford. MUCH nicer people to help really something that you can touch and not corny send money.
If you have any ideas on this subject, write, together we are strong, together we can all think properly and really help our guys! Some people can afford to buy only a couple of packs of milk, and someone will azkazat much more. But the sea is composed of drops!
The IMF has done nothing but washes their hands in the blood of Ukrainian Patriots. These people are fighting against corruption... They have no one to turn to because of the usurpation of the government in the political chess game between the USA and Russia.
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CIA gives them ''advisors'', info, tactics and weapons, but not food.
They are bitting the bullet.
So a lesson to NATO dupes, stooges and puppets. Are these the types of people you want to give your life for? They will discard you in the trash, ask a Vietnam or Iraq vet.
They can at least use the fiat cash to wipe their ass. Oh, my kingdom for a horse.
it seems pretty obvious what these soldiers should do, turn the guns around on the real foreign invaders, terrorists and oligarchs...
But I suspect the Top Ukrainian Politicians' Swiss Bank accounts are swelling...along side the Top Leaders' accounts of most nations who park their loot there ... no matter whether your dealings with the Ukraine, Zimbabwe, North Korea or Greece.
They need to turn to themselves... shoot the fucking bankers and politicians... and probably their own officers as well.
before they shoot you first
Bingo, bingo. This is becoming a cluster that is so bad that people are trying to get out (at least in the west) and save face and it's not happening.
Bring a soldier bread and he can eat for a day; teach him to rape, pillage and kill, unleash him, and he can eat for the rest of his life.
If I was living in the ukraine I would be getting the flock out of there right about now... Either with a pedal bike or walking, just get the hell out of there...
Easier said than done, especially if you have roots in the community or a business to tend to.
Or just a house you think you own and try to keep.
Ukraine’s new authorities were put their by the west, almost overnight. How hard would it be for their removal by Russia, indirectly ofcourse - I doubt it would take much.
Nuland's 178th Liver-Eater Airborne Forces sponsored by AlCIAda prepped and ready to roll.
I really did comment to the missus.. I feel sorry for those kids and men who we are forcing to confront their own countrymen.
The Neo-Nazis in the Ukraine, EU, NATO and US State Department.. not so much.
Where can I send my Bitcoin to help these guys?
Maybe if martin Armstrong really cared about Ukraine he'd do a post about the massacre in Odessa by right sector and the Kiev hunta!!!
Yeah, If there´s a war, stay home! Dont show. Send the mongerers! I would absolutely LOVE to see a war where no soldiers showed on both sides. Would be the ultimate finger to psychopathic and empty suits.
I wonder what counsel Vlad got on Valaam.
Or maybe he saw this flick..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU
The West Ukrainian forces sent East to supress the people unwilling to accept a coup government in Kiev are dupes of the highest order. It was reported that many of the attacks on self defense checkpoints were aimed only at stealing the food, medicine and money of the men manning the check points. I don't call that sad, I call it reflective of Ukraine. They have been free and independent for decades now, they have been getting ultra cheap energy off of the Russians and lots of help from the EU. Yet, they are worse off now than ever. Their hobby seems to be blaming others for their complete and utter failure to form a nation, an economy or a civil society. When the West Ukrainians march east to gain victory, they are just conquering the East so the rich elites can loot it again.
Frankly, the Maidan Heros and the loyal Ukrainian army units are a total refelction of their failure in every respect. Why would anyone in the East want to be ruled from Kiev? And why would they want to become IMF slaves, I mean debt slaves. Or why would they willingly close all factories and industry so that Germany can boost exports.
The US media and it's campaign for the simple minded dupes who actually believe that shit. In fact, the economy will collapse. Austerity will hammer the bottom 90%. Jobs will be killed as Ukraine comes under German rule and the place is shutdown and EU imports, funded by IMF loans give Ukraine all the viability of Greece.
But, never fear, the true believers will march east and get their helicopters shot out from under them, like four in recent days. Wounded or dead, the heros will be a big joke to the EU and to the Gas Queen of Ukraine and her IMF banker sidekick from Israel, Yats. So many people, so many fools, no wonder the Ukraine was looted for 2 decades and the people just woke up!
You never give me your money
You only give me your funny paper
and in the middle of negotiations
you break down
I never give you my comfort
I only give you my situation
and in the middle of investigation
I break down
were gonna "smoke em out" .....BUSH
were gonna "starve em out" .....OBAMA
we are gonna "burn em out"..........euromaiden
cut off water to crimea... another violation of the Geneva Conventions by our Nobel Peace prize winning fascists....
I'm gonna "eat her out".....Hillary.
were gonna 'leave em alone'.......Ron Paul
This is how sad the world is today, it didn't even occur to me that this was an option. God I miss Ron.
Yeah, me too. And there is no credible "politician" to fill his shoes.
*Sigh*
It never ceases to amaze me how many people are willing to fight for bankers and politicians who wish to enslave them.
Military recruits from the poorest echelons of society. Has for hundreds of years.
Where hope, national pride, making something of oneself, etc. all have different meanings.
You have to wonder what is blurring these solders vision.
Nork style indoctrinization in play here, or just loyalty for the motherland? poor bastards...
I knew it was bad, but no sleeping bags?
I'm shocked that a few ambitious Generals haven't decided, fuck this, and taken matters into their own hands yrs ago...
It already is in their hands... why people think the most murderous pack of monsters a society can create (Generals have their job because they are the best killers that society can devise) will some how "find God" and chase off the politicians and bankers. They are in the club. You are not.
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My guess is that at least some of them are motivated by threats made against family members by the Ukrainian Nazi government.
If the idiots are willing to be treated like dogs by unelected fascists while they risk their life, then fuck'em. Time for Russia to take out the garbage.
As opposed to elected facists?
That is for the American Sheople.
Not true. The CYA gave them all "Food for thought".
The knee pads are for Yats when he meets with his western masters
Nah, he hasn't yet earned the right for pads and loob. Not enough Slav(e)s dead yet.
instructions for death, who offers them?
instructions for life, no one? ...
I guess that explains all the defections.
MORALE PROBLEMS ANYONE? There are few quality personel on the ukraine side. No wonder the pilot of that downed copter was hovering still like a doofus over enemy territory
If they would just spin their turrets around and blow a big hole in the door of the banks (Kelly), I would be more than happy to support them. A Hind-D can really do a number on a bank.
Targeting IMF nazis would also be good.
Attacking a bank?!
Now that would surely be a war crime.
And for those that need it>> /sarc
Oh, they do have someone to turn to..
This is written in RUSSIAN. Why not in Ukrainian?
Oh, a trouble maker, huh?
Ukraine just needs a good "babies tossed from incubators" story and the money will be flowing. And hey, some of it may even trickle down to the troops.
Because Ukranian is a language that uses Cyrillic script, which is an alphabet, not a language. It just so happens that Russia also uses the Curillic alphabet.
LOL WUT?
Sorry, they both use Cyrillic but the languages are different, especially in the writing.
The Ukrainian alphbet share a lot of letters but not identical to the Russian version.
Also forms of declension are different.
The post is indeed in Russian, not Ukrainian.
This is an important point and I suspect it has to do with the factbthat the Russian language is deeply imbedded in the younger people of the Ukraine.
If I remember correctly most of the internet searches in Ukraine were in Russian sites according to a ZH article.
Join the club. If anyone paid attention to the blacks and browns of the world they would see that this has been an ongoing pattern for decades.
If they think they are hungry now just wait till they see the IMF menu.
Those guys in Kiev already know the can kiss the IMF billions (they wanted to pocket themselfs) goodbye so they go for the consolation prices.
these guys might consider the remote
possibility that what is
being produced is a snuff film and
they are being called upon to be
the victim "stars". they need much more than
knee pads and supplies, they need
much more. ....or much less?
Never forget that Central Bankers love war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl9lS5k7H5M
Not sure how much clearer this can get.
Fiat money equals Death.
Look inside your head, a lot clearer and a couple decades behind sucker.
negative rates
Huh?
Why would you fight and take orders for a government to control some people far away, while they steal your donations? The conclusion seems obvious: If these politicians want to rule the east and impose their laws upon these serfs, they better do the fighting against them themselves.
Armstrong went to jail for 7 years and was released in 2011 for crimes of FRAUD?? And that is your source?
Should we laugh or cry? Tough call.
Zero Hedge, do you get paid for each pound of bullshit you generate favoring Russia? And how much is that, I wonder? So, Armstrong went to Face Book to collect evidence of Ukrainian troops starving and needing to go on a food drive? Not likely.
Armstrong is pure BULL$hit.
attacking the messenger always sways my analysis of any event. good job.
There is NO STORY -except- the Messenger.
Did I really need to clarify that?
Your seething hate for russia and her cause is starting to way overcompensate for any reasonable case you present for the ukraine side, which by the way, is apparently full of corrupt politicians bought off by western money. Did nuland enjoy that ass rimming you gave her last night? make sure you brush your teeth and scrape your tongue, buddy boy lulz
I don't hate Russia. I hate what Russia does. I hate the thugs and network criminals it produces.
I read up on sergei Magnitsky. He was basically a whistle blower, no? Its clear numerous areas of the russian govt were involved in that 250 million scam. Unfortunate and very upsetting for the russian people, no doubt. but sometimes a violation isnt just about money.
Serg's uncoverings pale in comparison to those of edward snowden. Consider the immensity of the wrong novictim - wholesale spying across the world. From Prime ministers to burger joint workers, presidents to street sweepers. The money to be made from that kind of spying could be in the trillions. the nsa probably has dossiers on many in ukraine parliament, and who knows what they have on those guys and how its being used against them? Its info that topples and supports regimes, entire countries affecting many millions of people. which is worse?
If the US government convicts someone for contempt of court and fraud, I get a conflicting feeling. In the good old days I would have said it's a crook. Since the government has proven to be the biggest crook of all and I know good people thrown in the slammer without conviction without even an indigtment, I am not so sure anymore.
Peter Schiff's father is also in jail, so went Lauren Hills and Wesley Snipes and Bernard von NotHaus who just minted a silver coin. Just people who did not want to fund the government, were thrown in the slammer. Then we have Bradly Manning/Snowden/Assange. One politician claimed Snowden should be dangling from a tree. These guys blow trillion after trillion and take the money at gunpoint from the shitizens and if someone refuses to give them his money and they thrown him in jail for 'fraud' then we have to think he is a bad guy. Don't think so anymore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/06/lauryn-hills-jail-sentence-tax-...
Don't feed the trolls
Wow, you are SO right. If the government convicts somebody of fraud, we can be certain that said individual was guilty, because hey, the government has NEVER lied to us or imprisoned or killed its enemies on false pretenses, and is really only here to look after the public's interest, and is NEVER swayed by lobby groups or big money. I am SO glad you stopped by to point that out.
Everyone in jail is "Innocent".
Hux, if only! If ONLY there was a ongoing pogrom against the thieves of the financial sector like Armstrong.
Just how incompetent is this Armstrong to have been caught for what so many are still getting away with?
"These people are fighting against corruption... They have no one to turn to because of the usurpation of the government in the political chess game between the USA and Russia."...
Lets correct those statements as being patently "false"...
"Yes" indeed this is a tragedy and 100% the work of the IMF and NATO!
And
"No" This is indeed a "chess game" but certainly not the fault of anyone but the U.S. and the international oil companies that have historically yet again put Russia on the defensive!
I feel for the hunger, we all should but... Front line; warriors...if i may say should only be fed once every 2 weeks. I know its sounds bad but.. if you will. Try it yourself. After 2 weeks you will have the ability to smell the squirrels outside your door.
It takes 6- how ever over weight you are to die of hunger.
so warriors should not be fed. As much as they normaly eat. Cruel yes. Effective you bet. Evil without saying.
They should march on Kiev and replace the US-imposed Nazi regime.
Exactly and realize that either they are part of the problem or part of the solution, they can't sit down, shut and follow orders without taking a side and being held responsible for their actions. Being stupid isn't an excuse acceptable when treason charges are being filed against them.
This explains the 'Feed The Ukranian Soldiers' ad I just saw on TV. Thanks ZH.
send them ipods. they are edible.
my buddies and i have guns. we are hungry. no problem.
It appeared on face book so it must be real. Right?
I don't believe anything I read, see or hear about what is coming out of eastern Europe anymore. I feel badly for these people - they are pawns no doubt and many are obviously suffering. But the truth - outside the fact this is a big fucking mess - is difficult to see.
I wish my countrymen would mind their business. And just. Come. Home.
In the US all our military food requests go to Haliburton.
Facsism - its what's for dinner.
Shades of Holodomor? Let them eat Nuland?
nuland's cunt stinks. all yours.
I'll contribute money if they turn and attack Kiev and then go on to Brussels and destroy the place
Count me in.
I have no words today, only tears...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05/05/kiev-and-right-sector-kristallna...
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_05/Over-100-people-including-child...
you can not take your money into your grave /old saying
people willing to die in violence make change. are you ready?
ready for what, death? yes.
thinking that "death" will change anything
for the living, no. realising that death
of the self or the other will cause change
for the self and the other, yes. realising
the entire exercise is just financialised by
them that sit in conference rooms and the
main topic is avoided by the keynote speaker,
yes.
go for a hike and like that, yes.
Sure Ukraine! Send along your hot women and well send along food... Seems fair...
Too important not to post.
This is beautifully written and tells it just as it is.
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/washington-pulling-strings-americ...
Daniel Patrick Welch
From Ukraine ministry of defence website
PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE!
SUPPORT UKRAINIAN ARMY! Ukraine is in danger. Army will protect everyone but our soldiers need bulletproof vests, armored vehicles and military equipment. In these hard times every person can defend millions of peaceful, beautiful Ukrainians.
Together we are strong! How to help: Beneficiary Customer – Name:
The Ministry of Defence of Ukraine,
6, Povitroflotskiy Pr., Kyiv, Ukraine, 03168
Account ?: 25307010029738
* Currency of Bank Account, only: US dollars; euro
Bank Name: JOINT STOCK COMPANY
“THE STATE EXPORT-IMPORT BANK OF UKRAINE”
Bank Address: 127, Gorkogo Str., Kyiv, Ukraine, 03150
Bank SWIFT Number: EXBSUAUX
Special Routing Information’s:
Setting of payment (Obligatory
Remittance Information):
1. Donation for the logistic support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,
#31254307218611
2. Donation for the medical support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,
#31257304218611
its probably some niggerian scam run by Oblamo's brother who got the retroactive non-profit status from that Lerner bitch.
Maybe no one supports the army which is run by fascists.
So called Ukrainian centerists, you allowed Andriy Parubiy to run your country and your security service. Andriy Parubiy is a fucking Nazi and your Svoboda party is composed for fucking Nazis. Its pretty simple for me, anyone who allows Nazis to march with them and fails to push them away is a Nazi and identifies with them. Svoboda and the “Right Sector” are composed of Nazis and members Stepan Bandera. Look at Andriy Parubiy, no question he is a Nazi. Makes me sick to my stomach that the USA has given money and arms to Nazis in Ukraine so they can kill Russians.
I hope Putin unleashes the worst psychopaths and sociopaths he can find and sends them right to your goddam doorstep. Maybe then you will wise up and forget all of this shit that you have cooking like rotten borscht for the past 100 years.
What else am I going to do, I'm going to send what I can to the families of the White Wolves who have selflesly and corageously traveled to Ukraine to assist in the removal of this Nazi filth from the face of the planet.
1. Sounds completely consistent with the Great Ukrainian War of Dependence. That is to say, the collecting of even more freebies by playing both east and west.
2. FOOD IS FOR CLOSERS. You sissy boys have already lost Crimea the most important bargaining chip. How much do you think a failed gunman is worth? When berserkers were hungry they didn't go around tap dancing with their hands out. They killed and killed and killed.
the reality on the ground this autumn in Ukrain - local army forces defending local farmer who is feeding them from any and all outsiders
Ukrainians aren't too excited about the new puppet, which is exactly why the army is not going to be getting any weapons. Don't want to risk having them pointed in the wrong direction.
Meanwhile, the foreign mercs will be armed to the teeth.
what the fuck is a ukrainian soldier?
what is a soldier? wake the fuck up.
oh no, never... don't do that!
blaspheme! get dirty and die for
strangers and their complex, variable and
dynamic psychological
disturbances.
darwin and freud, and many others, might
just have insinuated, but maybe not, that
your life is worth that, half a ball.
http://www.youtube.com/user/peacsees
soul soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPKZW8c2E40&list=UULwXLS-KHDAABP02xEzplsg
Well, if Armstrong is right, this conflict should wrap up in the next few weeks. I would say that the minimum requirement for any regime, no matter how corrupt, if they want to stay in power, is that they feed the fucking military forces that allow them to enforce their rule. If the current regime is so stupid as to miss that, they're not going to last long, regardless of all the jawboning support they get from the west.
Our fucking corrupt, pinheaded 'thought leaders'have grown so used to talking their way out of EVERYTHING they may have forgotten that at some point, when the action starts, infinite corruption needs to be brought at least temporarily to heel.
Where's Boris to translate the translation?
First I need to see the Junta in Kiev hanging from the trees.
Then I contribute, sure.
Just hold on for a day, Yat. An army is being flown in. This army of cannibals can feed itself. And does! http://en.shiapost.com/2014/05/05/s-arabia-relocating-takfiri-fighters-from-syria-to-ukraine/
dichotomies. contemplate
that, and as a manipulative
instrument to control and destroy
them that interfere or obstruct
a design. ongoing ....
model and images of the louvre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_IXsg9XQk&list=UULwXLS-KHDAABP02xEzplsg
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good old debt bro ain't racist. killing white slavs to even it up. nobel peace prize for 2015. boomchuckalucka.
http://spirituschristi.livejournal.com/307289.html
But, but Tyler has explained it all. There are no Poles, Czechs or Hungarians who sincerely believe That Ukraine is the place to stop Putin before they are defending their own literal back yards.
Nope, Putin is a totally cool dude. Just ask Nmewn. Hypocrisy are them.
Ukrainian Junta Citizenism citizens love to depict themselves as innovative.
They would be welcomed to show their innovation in their cheap propaganda.
After all, what central european would want to join NATO just because they've had to fight Russian tanks before. Nope, Putin is a cool dude, just wants to emulate Stalin. What could be wrong witrh that, eh Nmewn? After all, he doesn't like Obama, who after all is the antichrist.
Politicians and diapers should be changed frequently and all for the same reason. ~José Maria de Eça de Queiroz
Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato
'Those who are too honest and fair to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are ..
Politics is the gentle art of getting votes from the poor and campaign funds from the rich, by promising to protect each from the other. ~Oscar Ameringer
Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ~George Orwell
When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators. ~P.J. O'Rourke
Give me the money that has been spent in war and I will clothe every man, woman, and child in an attire of which kings and queens will be proud. I will build a schoolhouse in every valley over the whole earth. I will crown every hillside with a place of worship consecrated to peace. ~Charles Sumner
It'll be a great day when education gets all the money it wants and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy bombers. ~Author unknown
The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations. ~David Friedman
Nations have recently been led to borrow billions for war; no nation has ever borrowed largely for education. Probably, no nation is rich enough to pay for both war and civilization. We must make our choice; we cannot have both. ~Abraham Flexner
Sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come. ~Carl Sandburg
War grows out of the desire of the individual to gain advantage at the expense of his fellow man. ~Napoleon Hill
It doesn't require any particular bravery to stand on the floor of the Senate and urge our boys in Vietnam to fight harder, and if this war mushrooms into a major conflict and a hundred thousand young Americans are killed, it won't be U.S. Senators who die. It will be American soldiers who are too young to qualify for the Senate. ~George McGovern
I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in. ~George McGovern
When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
The refuge of the morally, intellectually, artistically and economically bankrupt is war. ~Martin H. Fischer
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. ~Author Unknown
Man has no right to kill his brother. It is no excuse that he does so in uniform: he only adds the infamy of servitude to the crime of murder. ~Percy Bysshe Shelley, "A Declaration of Rights"
The real measure of your wealth is how much you'd be worth if you lost all your money.
Double post
They are War Pigs
http://youtu.be/jtnC28jAA9k
Why doesn't Yats give the soldiers some of the money the Gas Queen of Ukraine stole over the last 15 years? That bitch is loaded with cash, Yulia is not your average whore, she knows how to loot with the best of them. Don't let that fake bitch get away with spending millions on herself while calling for the deaths of 8 million East Ukrainians, but then she is a Ukrainian hero, fuck you folks are hard up for heros eh? No wonder Nazism is so popular, and IMF bankers from Israel end up running the place.
Remember those glorious days of the classical era when it was the wealthy that would serve the cause, fight and die in battle? Part of the reason is that they were the only ones that could afford the equipment. If only the modern age was similar
I remember during the Falklands war there was Cabinet level debate in the UK whether to attack and sink the General Belgrano (ex-USS Houston,8 inch gun equipped cruiser with no ASW capability).The operation was approved by PM (Thatcher) and many still believe that it was to scupper any peace talks in progress.The ship was outside the exclusion zone when sunk. Diplomacy went to the far back burner,and the British tabloid press had a field day ("Gotcha!" headlines etc.).
I get the same feeling about the people being burned to death in the Odessa building.There is no turning back from these criminal acts,and the police being ordered to stand idly by and not interfere is sickening,bringing up images of Germany from the thirties.Have the US State dept.learnt nothing from the Balkan conflicts?
There is a window for diplomacy and peace but time is running out.Putin will only be patient so long.... I might add everyone thought WW1 would be over in six weeks.....
Also,very few people know this but there was a UK journalist in Moscow during the Bolshevik revolution,who was given access to all the secret treaties which the Tsarist govt. had entangled Europe with.The Allies were desperate to keep Russia in the war against Germany.The parallels with Snowden and others is interesting. "History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme".
Stupid politicans have no problem with getting good people killed. The idea of America getting involved or jumping into a war in Ukraine would have been hard to imagine a few years ago. As I write this we are engaged in a war of words but the potential for this to escalate into a shooting war is real. Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality.
As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome. The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia. It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. It should be noted the military of Ukraine is divided and extremely weak. More about this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html