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"Washington Intends Russia’s Demise" Warns Paul Craig Roberts

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Submitted by Paul Craig Roberts,

Washington has no intention of allowing the crisis in Ukraine to be resolved. Having failed to seize the country and evict Russia from its Black Sea naval base, Washington sees new opportunities in the crisis.

One is to restart the Cold War by forcing the Russian government to occupy the Russian-speaking areas of present day Ukraine where protesters are objecting to the stooge anti-Russian government installed in Kiev by the American coup. These areas of Ukraine are former constituent parts of Russia herself. They were attached to Ukraine by Soviet leaders in the 20th century when both Ukraine and Russia were part of the same country, the USSR.

Essentially, the protesters have established independent governments in the cities. The police and military units sent to suppress the protesters, called “terrorists” in the American fashion, for the most part have until now defected to the protesters.

With Obama’s incompetent White House and State Department having botched Washington’s takeover of Ukraine, Washington has been at work shifting the blame to Russia. According to Washington and its presstitute media, the protests are orchestrated by the Russian government and have no sincere basis. If Russia sends in military units to protect the Russian citizens in the former Russian territories, the act will be used by Washington to confirm Washington’s propaganda of a Russian invasion (as in the case of Georgia), and Russia will be further demonized.

The Russian government is in a predicament. Moscow does not want financial responsibility for these territories but cannot stand aside and permit Russians to be put down by force. The Russian government has attempted to keep Ukraine intact, relying on the forthcoming elections in Ukraine to bring to office more realistic leaders than the stooges installed by Washington.

However, Washington does not want an election that might replace its stooges and return to cooperating with Russia to resolve the situation. There is a good chance that Washington will tell its stooges in Kiev to declare that the crisis brought to Ukraine by Russia prevents an election. Washington’s NATO puppet states would back up this claim.

It is almost certain that despite the Russian government’s hopes, the Russian government is faced with the continuation of both the crisis and Washington puppet government in Ukraine.

On May 1 Washington’s former ambassador to Russia, now NATO’s “second-in-command” but the person who, being American, calls the shots, has declared Russia to no longer be a partner but an enemy. The American, Alexander Vershbow, told journalists that NATO has given up on “drawing Moscow closer” and soon will deploy a large number of combat forces in Eastern Europe. Vershbow called this aggressive policy deployment of “defensive assets to the region.”

In other words, here we have again the lie that the Russian government is going to forget all about its difficulties in Ukraine and launch attacks on Poland, the Baltic States, Romania., Moldova, and on the central Asian states of Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. The dissembler Vershbow wants to modernize the militaries of these American puppet states and “seize the opportunity to create the reality on the ground by accepting membership of aspirant countries into NATO.”

What Vershbow has told the Russian government is that you just keep on relying on Western good will and reasonableness while we set up sufficient military forces to prevent Russia from coming to the aid of its oppressed citizens in Ukraine. Our demonization of Russia is working. It has made you hesitant to act during the short period when you could preempt us and seize your former territories. By waiting you give us time to mass forces on your borders from the Baltic Sea to Central Asia. That will distract you and keep you from the Ukraine. The oppression we will inflict on your Russians in Ukraine will discredit you, and the NGOs we finance in the Russian Federation will appeal to nationalist sentiments and overthrow your government for failing to come to the aid of Russians and failing to protect Russia’s strategic interests.

Washington is licking its chops, seeing an opportunity to gain Russia as a puppet state.

Will Putin sit there with his hopes awaiting the West’s good will to work out a solution while Washington attempts to engineer his fall?

The time is approaching when Russia will either have to act to terminate the crisis or accept an ongoing crisis and distraction in its backyard. Kiev has launched military airstrikes on protesters in Slavyansk. On May 2 Russian government spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that Kiev’s resort to violence had destroyed the hope for the Geneva agreement on de-escalating the crisis. Yet, the Russian government spokesman again expressed the hope of the Russian government that European governments and Washington will put a stop to the military strikes and pressure the Kiev government to accommodate the protesters in a way that keeps Ukraine together and restores friendly relations with Russia.

This is a false hope. It assumes that the Wolfowitz doctrine is just words, but it is not. The Wolfowitz doctrine is the basis of US policy toward Russia (and China). The doctrine regards any power sufficiently strong to remain independent of Washington’s influence to be “hostile.” The doctrine states:

“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”

The Wolfowitz doctrine justifies Washington’s dominance of all regions. It is consistent with the neoconservative ideology of the US as the “indispensable” and “exceptional” country entitled to world hegemony.

Russia and China are in the way of US world hegemony. Unless the Wolfowitz doctrine is abandoned, nuclear war is the likely outcome.

 

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Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:33 | 4730004 TeamDepends
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Krushchev:  "We will Barry You."

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:37 | 4730023 cossack55
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PCR has been on top of this from the get-go.  

 

How does that new Lee Greenwood song go

 

Well, I'm ashamed to be an American 

where at least I used to be free.....

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:47 | 4730047 Edward1290
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Why was Timmie Geitner in China last week......?

http://english.cri.cn/11354/2014/04/30/2743s824375.htm

The official story is bunkola.......

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:01 | 4730087 CrashisOptimistic
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Probably pimping a translation of his book.

He speaks Mandarin.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:24 | 4730147 Edward1290
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Timmy represents the 'deep state'........

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:19 | 4730302 Manthong
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I don’t know for sure, but..

I think PCR might be a bit off in the assessment.

For one thing, I believe the NATO general used the word “adversary”, not enemy.. a little softer term as your sparring partner or wrestling opponent can be an adversary but not an enemy.

I also think it pains Putin to be sitting by and not kicking ass and taking names there, but he might be thinking that in comparison to WWII the “collateral damage” is relatively small and is not worth the risk of taking the Washington and EU bait.

He might be thinking that if he just slips enough resources into the east to keep the contention going that public opinion might turn against the bozo’s driving the western bus as it did in Syria.  

I would just as soon see Putin trounce the fascists but I know that most of the rest of the western world is too occupied with their version of Idol or DWTS to see through the DC deception.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:48 | 4730400 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Russia's turn off gas date is coming in a couple of days. It will happen. Nite nite Europe.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:12 | 4730637 Soul Glow
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They won't turn it off, they'll jack the price.  Then when they aren't paid after that they'll turn it off.  

Where there is money to be made....

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:23 | 4731018 luckylongshot
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I agree. If Russia was smart it would link the level of the price hike for Europe to the number of civilians killed in eastern Ukraine. Then Russia's problem would become Europe's problem and part of the funds could be used to support families who have lost loved ones

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:39 | 4731025 BorisTheBlade
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PCR is a bit emotional in his assessment, which can always cloud even best judgement. On the surface there is a lot of words, strong language, sanctions and movement of troops. What was happening behind the curtain:

1. US reapproachment with Iran. Ever wonder why Iran is off the radar for the time being and nuclear program not so much of a threat to Israel or at least no longer as acute as was before. Despite only recent claims that it is months, weeks or milliseconds away from developing nuclear bomb and immediately throwing it towards Tel Aviv. Also, why Germany was so quick in supporting anti-Russian sanctions despite obvious damage to its economy, well, perhaps there could be bigger prize on the other hand, i.e. increased stake in the Iranian pie.

2. Russian mega deal with China. China with its infinite demand for energy could swallow up anything Russia could offer, it also needs an uninterrupted supply, which is outside of Washington reach and willingness to disrupt: anything coming from Middle East and shipped by water is subject to disruption by the US at any given point since China lacks naval capacity to secure supply routes.

Behind all smoke and mirrors there is a grand redistribution of all gas and oil flows in Eurasia currently underway: more Russian gas and oil headed into Asia, primarily China, while at the same time Iranian largely untapped gas and oil reserves finally exploited and diverted away from China and into Europe and perhaps India. For Russia it would allow for exploration of East Siberian reserves which Europe couldn't afford, but China having a necessary appetite to do just that. For the West it's multifaceted benefit, i.e.:

- renewed relevance of NATO in view of Russian bear threatening Europe again, perhaps Germany will be expected to take a more assertive and leading role in the alliance, including bigger share of military expenditure

- decreased reliance on Russian natgas supplies, which were never to come from US shale gas when there's such an obvious candidate to replace it.

Who will lose:

a. KSA. Saudi was known to be a #1 oil producer for quite some time, no more. Their fall from grace will be painful.

b. Ukraine. Whatever the outcome, Ukraine no longer a safe route for gas heading towards Europe, be it for South Stream or LNG from the Middle East. It had already had large piece of its territory carved out and going forward that process will most likely continue, Romania, Poland, Hungary all have some territorial claims towards Ukraine.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:20 | 4730813 jay35
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"once more, we play our dangerous game, a game of chess, against our old adversary, the [united states]."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ITKoRfmNtg

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:12 | 4730630 Soul Glow
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Remember when little Timmy was laughed at by Chinese college students?  Yeah, it's like that.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:29 | 4730161 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Why was Timmie Geitner in China last week......?

Encore performance of the standup comedy routine he did there a few years back.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:45 | 4730209 kchrisc
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I have the summary of the transcript:

"Please, please, please, oh please, keep buying our bonds. And please, please, please don't work with that bad Putin in destroying the Petro$. It is all we have..."

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:27 | 4731022 piceridu
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't Geitner the FORMER Secretary of the Treasury...a civilian?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 04:27 | 4731100 jeff montanye
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like war is politics by other means, this is treasury secretary by other means:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115623/tim-geithners-new-job-private-...

the u.s. treasury and the federal reserve are important branches of the u.s. "private" financial sector.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:29 | 4730163 Bangin7GramRocks
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The good news is that all the young people will soon have jobs with room, board and a free gun.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:13 | 4730298 Chuck Walla
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Obama tells Medvedev: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:06 | 4730447 all-priced-in
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"This is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for fighting ,this is for fun."

 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:01 | 4730262 Payne
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Russia is acting they are being patient while the WEST self destructs.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:15 | 4730305 Ignatius
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Nuclear war with Russia is a planet killer.

Tiptoeing along the precipice like this is insanity.

Our controllers are insane.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:14 | 4730799 DeadFred
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Certain scenarios of nuclear war, particularly high altitude EMP attacks won't do much more long term damage than Fukashima. The government estimates that a complete takedown of the US electric grid would kill nearly 2/3 of the population within a year. Don't assume that Russia (or China) has taken a first strike off the table. Not that what you or I think makes a whit of difference.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:10 | 4730898 Beam Me Up Scotty
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How many Fukishimas happen in this country if they EMP us???

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 01:27 | 4730982 wee-weed up
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end of life as we knew it

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:24 | 4730658 Soul Glow
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PCR still has a US bias.  I'm not judging him either, his input is essential - as WGT's is and Celente, et al - just pointing this out.  He made his living paid to support US policy, whether he likes it or not.  And he is front and center in media operations.  Thus why Fight Club is so important.  We run around collapsing statues and blowing up buildings wearing masks and only have names in death.  This makes us immortal.  We say what we want, how we want, and our only bias lies in our hearts and minds.

Long live FIght Club.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:58 | 4730759 jm
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Said the rainbow pony.

If anyone has illusions that Russia actually has any moral superiority over the United States (as corrupt and contemptible as the US government actions can be), go take a visit for a month.  Your veil of ignorance will surely be lifted.  When it comes to raw veniality, corruption, poor governance, suffocating oppression, and general psychopathic tendencies, the Russian government aparatus takes the prize over just about any save North Korea.   

It is strange to watch the ZH groupthink as it devolves:  the cheerleading of a former KGB agent with a massive inferiority complex the size of Jupiter and a kleptomania that is even bigger. 

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:24 | 4731063 Joe A
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Yes, we all know that about Russia. But the West is not any better when it comes to corruption. Everything is rigged: interest rates, MBS, exchange rates, prices of commodities, bank laundering drugs money, etc. Big financial firms almost blow up the financial system and are rewarded with bailouts and big bonuses. How about that for psychotic tendencies.

Oppression of desent is not necessary in the West because the press gladly complies with everything the authorities tells them to write. As Seymour Hersch said: there is no investigative journalism anymore. I may add that journalism has become whorenalism.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:36 | 4731076 AlgorithmOfCons...
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Your focus on cosmetic differences and appearances misses the point for that which is just.  While valid criticisms can be lodged against Russia, your post has lots of hyperbole, embellishment and exaggeration, what with "suffocating oppression."  What does that mean or "psychopathic tendencies"?  Have you asked the millions that starve in America and that are without jobs due to the bankster class what "suffocating oppression" means?  What "psychopathetic tendencies" has Russia displayed?  In fact, the only country that has displayed psychopathic tendencies throughout the world in the last 25 years since the post-1991 unipolar world has been the American Empire, with its invasions, destructions and bombings throughout the world.  Russia had done nothing and has done nothing against the American Empire, except stand up for principles of fairness and that which is just, ala the Syria situation when the US blood lusting was calling for yet another military intervention for the benefit of the Saudis, the Turks and the Israelis.  Of course, while there are a lot of oil politics in the background in Syria (involving the Wahhabist Gulf States, the US, the petrodollar, and a resurgent Russia who is a major energy player), the fact remains Russia has displayed diplomatic finesse, pragmatism and a moral high ground, something the US cannot claim. You can criticize Putin for being a former KGB man, but what does that make Bush Sr., a former CIA man? I would recommend you try to see beyond the veil cast by the shadow in Plato's cave.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 04:52 | 4731108 jeff montanye
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i like both your comment and that of joe's immediately prior.  in addition to comparing the number of people killed by the respective militaries of the u.s. and the ussr/russia outside the national borders of said countries, how about some consideration of where the nations were/are coming from when measuring internal conditions like corruption or toleration of dissent?

russia was, a lifetime ago, the dystopian nightmare of stalinism that seemed to be the object of the genius orwell's 1984.  the u.s. was, in large part, the manifestation of the declaration of independence/u.s. constitution that was in many ways the first, glistening example of institutional democracy in the world.  the u.s. had even begun to finally right the endgame of the great, historic wrong of slavery, significantly in the context of the rule of law which was already the envy of much of the world.

i ask you, honestly, which country has improved since then?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 07:22 | 4731218 jm
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You do not know the facts.

Putin doesn't coop jounrnalists.  He kills them. http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/mar/11/journalist-safet...  Moral high ground indeed.

If you don't give Putin a cut of your wealth and bend to his will, regardless of the law or due process, you go to jail:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-12082222  Ask Wynn where he would rather do business.

 

Putin doesn't stop at illegitimately jailing businessmen at his whim.   He kills them.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/3/28/world/europe/coroner-unable-to-establis...

 

I could continue but it likely isn't worth it, because Putin's Russia likely still looks like a vacation paradise to you. 

 

What you have now is Putin telling Ukrainians where government authorities can and can't go in their own country to enforce law and order.  There is looting and crime endorsed and enabled by the little man in the Kremlin becaue he wants nothing more that total breakdown of the country, so he can take.  Gazprom doesn't operate like a business, it is merely a criminal arm of the Russian govt that alters their invoicing when the situation allows it.  Russian isn't operating anything like a civilized country, it is run by a thug that understands theft and only theft.  A first hand account of Russian corruption that makes Chicago look tame:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americans-fight-to-expose-corruption-in-russia/

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 10:14 | 4731727 CrazyCatLady
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Been trolling much?  I clicked your links just to see and what a load.  The first one links to a hit piece where the only facts are dead journalists names and death dates.  It does not go into any details of their deaths, what stories they had written, or any connection whatsoever with putin.  Coincedence does not equal causation.  

The second link was to a story trying to paint a convicted criminal as an enemy of the russian govt because he had funded opposition parties.  The criminal was pardoned by putin personally.  How does that fit your paradigm again? 

The third link to a nyt piece does not seem to exist and i didnt even bother with the last since it was from cbs news, a known paragon of unbiased journalism.

Get out of here, you douche. Im sure american idol has a forum you can prowl, and a more receptive audience to boot.

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 12:42 | 4732271 Fedaykinx
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you lost me at "millions of starving people in america."

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:46 | 4730045 McMolotov
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Barry: "We need a distraction."

Seriously, the longer this goes on, the more I'm convinced they're gearing up to make Russia the scapegoat when the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:58 | 4730074 Sokhmate
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I don't subscribe to that point of view.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:14 | 4730125 McMolotov
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Fair enough. It could all be maneuvering to "contain" the imagined threat posed by Russia, or it could be yet more intervention on behalf of corporate and banking interests. But it's hard to believe the planners of the fiasco haven't considered the possibility of Russia being put to use as the new Big Bad to replace Al Qaeda.

A large external threat justifies the empire in the eyes of many Americans. Military spending will never be allowed to go down, and while the petrodollar will be defended at all costs, it's on its deathbed. The only way the powers-that-be can maintain control is for the people to be looking elsewhere when assigning blame for the collapse.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:26 | 4730153 kaiserhoff
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More likely just shit spinning out of control.  The kleptocrats are cowards and arrogant fools, but the strangest thing is that they have the attention span of a spoiled three year old.  They can only focus on one thing at a time, and their pea brains are easily overloaded.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:41 | 4730196 Sokhmate
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I responded to the wrong comment. Mine was a response to: "Krushchev:  "We will Barry You.""

I don't subscribe to this point of view. You see, the Russians Lauuve their children too (maybe more than we doooo)

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 03:17 | 4731059 Joe A
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I used to like Sting a lot until he started working with rappers.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 05:03 | 4731117 jeff montanye
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i thought it was a clever pun, making nikita a clairvoyant who foresaw the u.s. finally tumbling from empire via barack "barry" obama.

and while we are at it, is this really the best tptb could come up with to refuel the mic and smoke the mirrors for the bear markets to come?

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." –Mark Twain

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:36 | 4731026 Deathrips
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Once Captain Ahab gets a spear in that white whale, it doesnt end well. 

 

Needed a scapegoat...soon ago.

 

RIPS

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:14 | 4730301 Chuck Walla
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"there had been long-range Russian air patrols to the coast of California ... and a U.S. F-15 fighter jet intercepted a Russian strategic bomber that had flown to Guam."

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:03 | 4730094 negative rates
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That was the plan all along, still they will fail for an anonymous reason.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 05:05 | 4731119 intric8
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You see boys?

Do you see how the world can have peace, that its there in the palm of our hand but the most powerful people in the world work aggressively to deprive us of it? WHAT THE FUCK! Do they covet death? Oppression? Suffering? Perpetually?

Christians say satan is at work in these perilous times, causing oppression and war. Wrong. Its a small group of humans, power mad people with an agenda who arent a mystery. We can identify them by name.

When will they witness the correction from below?

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 06:54 | 4731177 rsnoble
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Not soon enough i'm afraid.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:11 | 4730110 Drifter
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In their psychopathic desire (pure insanity actually) to make Russia a puppet state, they're pushing Russia toward alliance with China creating the king of all superpower alliances that could crush America financially or thermonuclearly, or both.

It's shooting yourself in the foot on the grandest scale I've ever seen. Like they just flat out want America destroyed.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:42 | 4730203 Squealgies
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"...thermonuclearly,...". What a great word! Not seen often enough!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:04 | 4730269 Ignatius
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"nucular" -- GW

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:28 | 4730347 Manthong
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“ I can see thermonuclearly now, the rain is gone”

.. might make a good song.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:18 | 4730477 booboo
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Well Obuttboy let the cat out of the bag when he said "Marine Corpse" I think he meant it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:35 | 4730016 Al Huxley
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Hey Russia, look, this is a little awkward given the current state of affairs, but would you mind launching this military satellite for us - we're trying to keep better tabs on what you're up to, but we're a little short on high orbit delivery capability right now.  And we're also a little short on cash, would you mind spotting us the cost of the launch?  We're good for it, you know you can trust us...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:53 | 4730059 CrashisOptimistic
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This is what happens when you get analysts who want to swagger around and pontificate about historical precedent this and strategic maneuver that and

AGAIN

in the entire article, there is no mention of oil for the #1 global producer of civilization's lifeblood.  Not a single mention.

What are these people thinking?  How can they just blah blah blah blah blah and NEVER MENTION THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.

They all live in a world where it is infinite.  "Oh, if Russia shuts off 4 million bpd of their exports, we'll just find 4 mbpd somewhere else.  Snap of the fingers.  Hell, we'll move food to the grocery store shelves with solar powered golf carts.  One can of Campbells soup at a time."

It's like they have no brain.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:05 | 4730099 negative rates
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They don't, unless you call shit for brains something.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:30 | 4730166 BurningFuld
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From way back: "Do you have mushrooms for brains?"

But yes they are a bunch of fucking idiots.

It will be "magic" oil!

Oh and lets not forget gas.  If they really piss off Russia I'm sure China can take it all. Then what?  Run that for me please!

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:04 | 4730264 Tom Terrific
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Maybe they believe that they are going to win the inevitable war with Russia and then just TAKE the petroleum reserves.  And hell, they may so arrogant to believe that now is the time when they can take down both Russia AND China, and that they have to do this now before those two get any more powerful.  And if so, why should they give a rat's ass how many dollars they have to print to make it happen.  This would be the end game and whoever's left standing gets the whole enchilada.

 

Oh, and don't forget those millions of hollow points that the DHS has been buying probably have a purpose behind them.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:09 | 4730617 Errol
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Tom Terrif wrote

 "And hell, they may so arrogant to believe that now is the time when they can take down both Russia AND China, and that they have to do this now before those two get any more powerful."

You might be on to something there.  I have read that Hitler made some of the decisions he did because he felt that there was a narrow window of opportunity for his plans to suceed and that delay would result in no chance at all of suceeding.

If the psychopaths manipulating the levers are as crazy as Hitler, we have a problem on our hands.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 10:23 | 4731770 CrazyCatLady
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There is a conspiracy theory out there that merkel is hitler's daughter (via frozen sperm and eva braun's youngest sister).  Jus sayin'

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:37 | 4730018 NOZZLE
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What are the names of the American voters who support this idiocy?  Excluding McNazi and his big titted dwarfy daughter with an IQ if 90, and anyone else crawling around DC, what are the names of the Americans who support this shit.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:39 | 4730025 cossack55
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Dan "The Virginian" Coates.  Senior Senator from Indiana (when he is not living in Virginia, he only comes to Indiana to run for office).

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:37 | 4730020 ebworthen
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This will the U.S.A.'s Waterloo.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:19 | 4730138 Gamma735
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It never pays to invade Russia.  It is too big.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:36 | 4730184 espirit
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And much too cold during wintertime.

Let the little kids posture musical chairs until then.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:30 | 4730167 Winston Churchill
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Napoleon nearly won Waterloo.
If marshal Ney had remembered the nails(to spike the guns)
when he overran the english field artillery , Wellington would
have lost.For want of a nail...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:41 | 4730028 Ariadne
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This is bullshit. The USA stands to gain nothing from conflict with Russia. Russia stands to gain nothing from conflict with the USA. Who benefits from this? That's who intends the demise of both the USA and Russia. 

Duh

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:47 | 4730046 Skin666
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You might say duh, until you look deeper at the Neo-cons.

 

When you do, you will find these people are not reasonable, they are fucking insane!

 

As PCR says, it's about US Hegemony for the Neo-cons. And they have the nuclear threat to back up their warmongering.

 

The US government is out of fucking control

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:56 | 4730069 cynicalskeptic
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The damn neo-cons have screwed up EVERY single one of their little 'projects'.  Look at how Iraq turned out - total clusterfuck.  Yet they are still pulling strings.

Doesn't matter who's president or which political party is in control.  The Project for a New American Century 'hit list' continues to be in play despite all the blowback.  Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Syria...... Their only real disappointment has been their failure to get the US to go after Iran - though God knows they've tried (under Bush and Obama).

These delusional fools think that the US can and SHOULD dominate the world for its own benefit (and Israel too of course).  Problem is that the US 'empire' is bankrupt and collapsing.  All they've done is hasten China's ascendency and America's fall - and make the US more hated throughout the world.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:26 | 4730152 BigJim
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 Look at how Iraq turned out - total clusterfuck.  Yet they are still pulling strings.

It only looks like a clusterfuck. Check out Odet Yinon and all becomes clear.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:12 | 4730635 Zadig
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The neo-cons really did seem to believe the occupation would be seen as 'liberators' and could use Iraq as a springboard to attack Iran and Syria in short order.  Plan A didn't go very well.  

Dividing the Arab parts, but not the pro-occupation Kurdish parts of course, into as many ghettoes as possible was the convenient Plan B. It's also now Plan A for Syria, and presumably Iran, now that they know the empire can't win guerrilla wars. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:45 | 4730849 cynicalskeptic
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Iraq was supposed to be a shining beacon of free market democracy - unfetterred capitalism (serving US not Iraqui interests) with privatized EVERYTHING in government.  It was supposed to provide the US with a central base in the Middle East, an unsinkable carrier for the projection of US force (BTW, what is the story with all those 'over the horizon' bases in the desert?  Are we really leaving those after spending so much to build them or simply saying we're 'leaving' - and by that I mean reducing our visible presence in Iraq.

Instead of sending experienced peopel to Iraq to manage reconstruction we sent politically 'pure' and vetted drones who were completely unqualified otherwise - I knew a few of these - picked because they were 'true believers' (true ass holes actually - young Republican types who'd never accomplished anything of substance chosen for their political purity).   BILLIONS were looted and stolen - besides the pallets of cash that went unaccounted for.  Most of the projects contracted out were never finished.  Hussein accomplished more rebuilding after Gulf I UNDER SANCTIONS than the US managed to do.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:35 | 4730181 max2205
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Really shocking to see white folks fighting and killing white people.

 

Been a while

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:50 | 4730224 MrPalladium
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It's the deep state, neocon agenda and end game. All else is diversion and distraction.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:42 | 4730200 Westcoastliberal
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Cy, I mostly agree with your points, however consider the fact we really don't know what result they desired.  Could be these fiascos worked out just fine and according to plan.  If that's the case, we're in deeper shit than we realize.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:52 | 4730270 vened
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Victoria "Fuck the EU" Nudelman (fake name Nuland; gotta hide those tribal roots) is married to Robert Kagan  - one of the key PNAC operatives.  Kagan is with FPI now, and the mastermind of Liz Wahl RT freakshow.

Surreal.  We are just disposable blobs of flesh for them.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:48 | 4730855 cynicalskeptic
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We are just disposable blobs of flesh for them.

Serfs and cannon fodder.  'Consumers' of corporate crap.  And eventually,  Soylent Green and fertilizer.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:40 | 4730372 angel_of_joy
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Keep doing this shit and the rest of the world will eventually make sure that the "New American Century" will be the "Last American Century"... and a shortened one too.

It's will be our choice of a lifestyle. You can choose to live and let live, and have a quiet, long life. Or, you could choose a gangster life: "extra-cool", exciting, and very short !

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:07 | 4730454 Oldwood
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When people believe that a big strong government is the answer, no failure creates proof of fallacious thought, it only proves they did not go far enough. The pursuit of power cannot be deterred, only defeated, and even that never lasts long.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:03 | 4730085 Ariadne
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No shit. The US government is under the control of foreign swine and traitors who are using us all as a disposable weapon to get what they want. Among other things they want us subjugated. Who directs the State department? Who directs the FR?

Duh

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:08 | 4730108 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Everybody is seeing this through th old lens of wars that are fought to gain land and resources. These days the war ITSELF is the treasure...an excuse to flow taxpayer dollars into private contractor hands. They are desperate to start another good one with Iraq and Afghanistan having played out. Syria was a big disappointment, even with McCain flying in and stuffing arms into al-Qaeda's hands. Sub-Saharan Africa is going great so far ($25M health club for US troops being built in Niger, among other juicy projects) but so far it's not nearly big enough.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:53 | 4730227 MrPalladium
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+1000!!

War as the new goldmine!!

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:44 | 4731034 Deathrips
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Resources are a "Gold Mine"! And war gets them.

 

Mass Social Hypnosis is a Bitch!!!

 

RIPS

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:50 | 4730859 cynicalskeptic
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This is all about ENERGY - and WATER.   Making sure the US has cheap access to both and controls access for everyone else.

 

Only problems is that the US Empire is collapsing - we're broke and blowing the little we have left on these Imperialist adventures.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:30 | 4730159 chemystical
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"Among other things they want us subjugated. Who directs the State department? Who directs the FR?"

Now wait just a minute.  That's downright anti-semitic.  No, wait, one glance at 99% of them will tell you that they have less semitic DNA than my dog.  What they are is a cabal of soulless reptilian pieces of Satanic shit who murdered a shitload of Jewish semites and hijacked their religion, and have cordoned off PAL semites in the world's largest open air prison (unless you count the USA), and have subjugated* you and yours.  I suppose it would be fair then to term your inference: "anti-soulless reptilian pieces of Satanic shit"

* you get paid in their money, you live under laws crafted by them, your children are educated by them, and maybe 80% of every syllable you hear uttered on the boobtube and read in print come from their offices.  un fait accompli

if I could watch one of them immolate every time I snapped my fingers you'd think you were hearing a castinet marching band (and I'd be snapping bone against bone)

too harsh?  <sarc>

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:45 | 4730210 Pure Evil
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Your dog is Jewish?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:19 | 4730318 james.connolly
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Mossad ain't Jewish

CIA ain't Christian

>>>

In six simple word's everything can be understood.

I agree the ZIONIST's who are trying to take over the world are as 'jewish' as any dog, cat, or flea. But they hijacked the religion, murdered millions of real jews, and then used the death to build sympathy for their rape and pillage on the world.

WASH-DC exists, but it is a CIRCUS ACT, for SHOW; the Real power as we know is in LONDON, and TEL-AVIV.

WASH-DC is a TARGET and nothing MORE, ... by design.

ZIONISTS don't believe in "GOD", they BELIEVE in MURDER.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:53 | 4730062 Winston Churchill
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Israel ? and/or China.
Already posited this a month ago and got heavy junking.
The more I think about it,its straight out of the MOSSAD playbook, and seems plausible.
Either that or I need a larger tin foil hat.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:18 | 4730132 kaiserhoff
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Well said.  There is no such entity as "Washington."  If this Jack Ass is going to publish war mongering rhetoric he needs to name names, but the only likely sources are Zionists.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:34 | 4730180 chemystical
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There is no such entity as "Washington."

And no longer such a thing as POTUS.  Better term is Tel Aviv VP for Far Western Affairs.  (titular at best)

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 12:03 | 4732123 Raging Debate
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The anglo-saxon empire and Israel are subsidieries of the corporation known as the House of Rothschild. End of story. As for the Bear from a strategic point of view they are surrounded. China is not there friends. They are the new emerging empire to replace the West. American taxpayers got to foot the bill for China to become reserve currency.

US politicians became multinationals, no loyalty to the sovereign. They feel they can act like tryannical dickheads to the America people because of investment in China. Our political system operates like China now. The US state can execute citizens at will, at least that is the law with NDAA.

China has been a strategic hedge against Russia since Nixon and Kissinger went there.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:17 | 4730134 Yardfarmer
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all the down votes readily indicate that the import of your message was too subtle for the comprehension of the shoot first and ask questions later crowd. of course, the people of the US and the people of Russia have nothing to gain from the conflict engineered and directed by financial interests (read IMF) and intelligence agencies who support them from behind the scenes. here's a plus one.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:32 | 4730172 Edward1290
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These money changing chicken hawk aszholes bankers are playing 10 moves ahead of current events.......prolly why Timy Geithnerer was in China last week......I guarantee he wasnt there for the 'sweet and sour shrimp'........

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:42 | 4730031 fonzannoon
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I like this guy and take anyone with 3 names very seriously, but I don't understand how the white house can be incompetent, and at the same time have the ability to be licking it's chops to gain Russia as a puppet state.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:30 | 4730160 kaiserhoff
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He would be really cool if he changed his name to Peter Paul Mary.

  Tres chic.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:03 | 4730250 chemystical
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Peter Yarrow is a filthy jew with a penchant for 14 yr-old girls.  He was pardoned by Carter but not by me.

One more cultural revolution tribe member* peddling stupidity, dope, and irresponsibility.

See:

Bob Dylan

The Chicago 7

Abbie Hoffman

Jerry Rubin

Alan Ginsburg

Lee Weiner

Bela Abzug

Betty Friedan

Gloria Steinem

Anita Hoffman

Nancy Kurshan

Paul Krassner

Ed Rosenthal

Jonah Raskin

Phil Ochs

Saul Alinsky

Peter Coyote (aka Rachmil Pincus Mosha Ben Cohon)

................ oy.  Nothing like leading the opposition :/

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:24 | 4730674 Zadig
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They don't know they're incompetent because they view themselves as the masters of the universe.   They're convinced their scheme will work flawlessly because they are surrounded by idiotic sycophants who get their news from the same propaganda outlets that are meant for the proles.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:50 | 4730034 tony wilson
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paul craig roberts nose nuttin

 

day said on der fox news putin is der new hitler and dat we must stop him before he kills all dem jews in youkrania 6 million of dem are trapped now godamit.

we must fight and die now so the jewish fellas can lives.

 

eye would fights myself but i have flat feet and am half jewish so it is impossibly fore me to helps.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:12 | 4730297 james.connolly
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PCR a NEO-CON back to the RAYGUN ( a 3rd teir porno acctor made president ), tells us that the COLD-WAR is returning.

Funny on the ALT, we get KUNSTLER talking to the LEFT for AIPAC bringing them center,

Then on the right we get PCR bringing right wing ALT to center, ....

ALL fucking planned opposition,

I do like PCR in general he tell's the truth, but then about 1 in 10 of his articles he slip's and falls back into the ZIONIST line.

PCR's only bitch with WOLFOWITZ is that PCR was kicked out of the inner circle years ago, ... but as a child he broke bread with all the ZIONISTS.

Having PCR lead us out of the DARKNESS is the ULTIMATE in hypocrisy, I get so fucking tired of these NEO-CONS that have FOUND christ,.. its like everybody that went to PRISON during NIXSON found JEEBUS and became an ALT.

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:48 | 4730048 surf0766
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What would force rusia to drop our treasuries?

I wonder?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:13 | 4730121 TungstenBars
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A smoking gun. The kind CNN can't spin

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:26 | 4730151 fonzannoon
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they would also have to own some before they could drop them.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:33 | 4730176 Winston Churchill
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Indeed, with all their spare money, Belgium bought them.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:09 | 4730281 Ocean22
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Don't you mean JNN? Sarc off

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:48 | 4730723 Luckhasit
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Well, the bigger question is, whose going to buy them beside the FED?

edit: Nvm, winston beat me to it.  For that matter, what if that is nothing but a control burn by the FED? Buy up the treasuries other countries are dumping en mass.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:49 | 4730054 medium giraffe
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Well, Syria didn't pan out so on to plan B.  Plan B probably has a much wider margin of error though..

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:57 | 4730241 Ocean22
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Unless plan b was the goal all along. Maybe it worked perfectly.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:54 | 4730060 JustObserving
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When you have a criminal cabal firmly in control of a state, you will have continuous war.  The war will be both internal and external - hence the massive spying on both Americans and foreigners.  And the massive military spending of over $1 trillion a year - nearly half of all the world's spending. As Ron Paul pointed out, we have 900 military bases in 130 countries.   And the massive prison population at home, by far the largest in the world, and an increasingly militarized police soon to be supported by thousands of drones.  The press is completely servile.  All branches of government are being spied upon and probably controlled.  All domestic freedoms are being curtailed if not eliminated.  The US is a police state now.

A fascist, police state never relinquishes power voluntarily - only a catastrophe such as a major war or a very large natural or man-made disaster can achieve that.

A major war with Russia is a distinct probability. Almost all fascist states have ended with wars.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:58 | 4730071 CrashisOptimistic
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THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN 7 BILLION PEOPLE BEFORE DEPENDING ON OIL -- AND RUSSIA IS THE #1 PRODUCER.  THERE IS NO HISTORY.

My God, it's like you're sitting in a sealed room with 1 minute of air left and the supplier of any more air is Russia, and one sits and thinks in terms of . . . people have always breathed before so that will be my model for what is going to happen.

I'll breathe and that spigot over there doesn't really exist.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:55 | 4730234 Ocean22
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I keep telling my wife this. Just because its all been good this long does not mean it will continue. Through world history a great number of people have always found themselves on what I call "the wrong side of history". We may just be the next. For years I have sat and watched the USA try and start ww3. And now again after the Syria mess, we now find our selves fighting a major power. This guy won't walk away. This guy has WARNED the US point blank that he will not hesitate using a nuke. It's on you tube.

They WANT this to happen. The USA has been targeted for destruction by the big fish. Agenda 21, GMO, aluminum trails all part of it.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:04 | 4730098 cynicalskeptic
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Empires in their dying throes overreach and collapse through their own hubris.     The US is mirroring Rome in fast forward.  The Republic is dead, the Empire is collapsing with a debased currency, mercenaries doing the dirty work citizens will not, and corruption running rampant.  We are distracting the populace with bread and circuses while our public institutions are a mockery of what they should be.  While we may not have actual horses in the Senate I dare you to find any real difference between the literal and figurative horses' asses that are servign  (in BOTH parties).   The ony real difference is that we have not had generals overthrowing the corrupt and ineffective (though I suspect strings are being pulled from behind the curtain with our 'Intelligence' Agencies having already led a coup d'etat).

That 'shining city on a hill' is inhabited by billionaires and surrounded by a populace that is becoiming poorer and poorer - and more and more fed up.   The question is - Will the paid help defend the oligarchy or turn on them when the time comes?  History has shown that the oligarchs treat their paid help like crap and suffer the consequences.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:06 | 4730273 james.connolly
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History repeats, ... last time we 'fought' Russia, we engineered, the GERMANS (NAZIS) to do the fighting
our behalf. I don't see OBAMA selling a war against Russia, and we need to engineer a new HITLER to rally the EUROPEANS's to fight RUSSIA, this is how we do it,... could be the beginning now, ... we saw what the USA 'new nazis' did in ODESSA, rape and strangle pregnant women, too bad ZH will not show these photo's as a ZH-MOTHER-POST.

The USA wants RUSSIAN-OIL no fucking doubt, but the USA has NEVER won a war in the last 50 years, and then they were fighting 'micro states', the USA ain't going to fight a real nation. But the USA will engineer a new NATION, and lead them to fight RUSSIA. So who is it going to be? Who in Europe could the USA rally? Who hates Russia enough?

The USA needs a new leader in EUROPE that is HITLER like, but then the USA would need to do that from Brussels, or fold the EU, and bring back GERMANY to it former day, .... but I don't see that either.

>>>

So what happens now? Just BULLSHIT, .. like you said the Barbarian Poor are at the gate in the USA, and CHINA
is no longer mentioned on ZH ( thank god ); but Russia and CHINA could still merge, but then CHINA loves that
SAUDI OIL too, so I don't see CHINA going either way.

Saber Rattling BULLSHIT; The USA has NOT gone against a nation, a real nation in its history, sure the USA
PTB engineered WW 1&2, but then the USA didn't enter until it was a clear win, ...

50 years ago for 30+ years there was a COLD-WAR with RUSSIA and it was all talk and talk and talk, ...

Now the USA is close as RUSSIA was in the 1980's for a complete fucking collapse.

The smartest thing PUTIN can do is just enjoy the
show and this is exactly what CHINA is doing, every
body knows the USA is going down.

The USA needs to find blame so the POL's can stay in power cant' blame CUBA anymore, and not CHINA if they're who loan us money,... so RUSSIA becomes the bogeyman.

So fucking what?

Like today, I think PUTIN should fly bomber's more often around the USA, and bring back the good old days when children spend most of their time hiding under
their desks.

1950's was the best of times in the USA, maybe
returning to cold-war hysteria might create wave of bomb shelters and get everybody back to work :)

The BULLSHIT is thick, the only thing REAL in this show is the dead women raped in ODESSA by OBAMA's NEO-NAZI's running unbridled in UKRAINE.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:58 | 4730073 BIHM
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So basically we are the big man on the block and any teenage boy that looks like he might grow to be a potential challenger to our big man title we simply cut his legs off before he fully matures.  Problem as I see it is we have cancer and are dying so try as we might to rule forever there is an end.  And we can spend our final years fighting and exhausting ourselves or we can chill the fuck out and focus on the important things, like us and our terminal illness

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:39 | 4730189 Winston Churchill
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Never been a change of GRC without war,a world war,as far as the world was known at the time.
The pound to dollar was the exception, however there was already a WW going on.I don't even count that one because the same family remained in control thru' their owned CBs.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:45 | 4730206 Ocean22
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And growing gardens and minding our own business.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 18:59 | 4730078 q99x2
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I still remember my 2nd grade duck and cover as well as my air drill routines. Hope they don't blow up Loas Angeles tomorrow. I have a test that I'm studying for.

Putin's on his own. I tried to tell what to do with the banksters but he seems not to have listened. Or, maybe he is taking his time. Anyhow if he waits any longer I'll have few good words for him.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:25 | 4730819 cynicalskeptic
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Leaving LA intact does more damage to the US than destroying it. Take out the port and leave the rest and you'll cause maximum chaos.

Glad I don't work in Manhattan anymore though.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:47 | 4730938 nc551
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It has continued in different forms.  When I was a kid in the big city we had drive by shooting drills.  Now the kids get active shooter drills with cops running around firing off blanks.  It is all about fear.  It is why people are trained to the point of muscle memory, when fear hits intelligent thought goes out the window.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:00 | 4730082 SheepDog-One
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If these Erkel dorks in Wash DC think they're about to boss Russia around like some little mid eastern or North African country, they're mistaken.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:10 | 4730116 BIHM
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And it isn't going to be Russia alone.  China isn't blind to the wolfy doctrine.  NWO vs Chussians - I will def PPV this one and don't think the fucking media isn't licking their lips at the ad spot mad price increase on 24 hour news zoos once the bell rings on round 1.  Let's get readeeeeeeee to rummmmmmmmble!!!  One big fucking promotion where everyone gets rich but the subscribers.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:44 | 4730205 Yes We Can. But...
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Don't leave out Genghis -

Chussgolia.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:10 | 4730112 Omen IV
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the history of american adventure in the last 60 years has not been good - even tried and true warriors like MacArthur made serious misjudgements about the enemy ... and he was a serious guy  - battle tested

Obama was chosen for his tested ability to agree with what he is told and a decision tree that never takes into account the multiplicity of alternative outcomes. so he will keep making mistakes on this as well - 

the problem is his approval rating is now less than 40% - if you take out the blacks which represent 18% of the population who voted for him 92% - and assume same ratio of voting adults in those numbers - then 92X18 = 16.5% less 40% = 23.5% of white and brown people left approve of him now - after a major Ukraine problem it drops from there 90%+ were against Syria involvement -  so he is on thin ice already - the progressives hate him as well

so what does he really have left other than the neo-cons running the show?

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:47 | 4730216 Yes We Can. But...
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He's got a wife whose ass is a zip code.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:28 | 4730826 cynicalskeptic
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Obama was chosen for his willingness to 'go along' - he's been 'BushIII' when it comes to foreign policy, trade, executive power and holding people accountable.  A few differences thrown in for Public Relations - like 'Obamacare' which was a gift for insurance companiesmasquerading as 'healthcare for all'.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 00:47 | 4730937 socalbeach
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Your math is off but I get your point. 

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(Let X = % of non-black Obama supporters.

Solve X*0.82 + 92*0.18 = 40

X=28.6%)

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 02:48 | 4731039 MisterMousePotato
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I knew he was slightly off, too, but I was too lazy to do the math. Thanks.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:09 | 4730113 The Alarmist
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The need to have multiple rotations in hell-holes like Iraq and Afghanistan to cover the ops tempo of dealing with a relative handful of troublemakers might lead one to wonder what forces are going to be massed on Russia's borders. 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:06 | 4730272 Wahooo
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A military hypothecated. Sort of fitting actually.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:11 | 4730118 Steve in Greensboro
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Hopefully the prevailing winds are Northeast up the Acela corridor.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:22 | 4730139 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Russia and China are in the way of US world hegemony. Unless the Wolfowitz doctrine is abandoned, nuclear war is the likely outcome."...

Yep!!!

And what "Troll" Wolfowitz, and the "Grand Polack Chess master" have dismissed is the very real possibility that when Russia manages to isolate Ukraine's military with the help of Graywater and starts a thumpin with a series of "killbox(s)", the Polack's ass puppet President zippity do da will have to make a decision "Do we attack"? or "Don't attack"!...

And that's when Dr. Paul's revelation comes into sharp focus. 

I keep reminding myself of the lovely postcard that ZeroHedge provided before the Christmas holidays of 2013 showing Russians in festive Chrsitmas costmes surrounding a mobile ballistic missile as a rather unusual Merry Christmas greeting to Secretary of State Kerry! And lets not forget the Russian ballistic missile submarines for that matter either. 

As the Russians have said many times to the United States... We see a missile of ANY kind come our way, you will be extending us an open invitation for the biggest of surprises! 

Just imagine launching a conventional tomahawk into Crimea and escalating to "Defcon 1" in 10, 15, 20???...  POOF!!!

Decisions...  Decisions...


Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:34 | 4730178 Ocean22
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That will be just the start, then all hell is gonna break loose.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:38 | 4730141 Yen Cross
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  This article is complete B.S. Everything the U.S.gov. touches turns into complete shit, and backfires on them. The author speaks as if the West is flush with capital and resources to indefinitely ramp the situation up. I'll not  even waste your time with the outright opposition the U.S. citizenry has against sending more troops to die in foreign places we have no business being in the first place.

 The pinhead warmongers are out early...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:45 | 4730204 AdvancingTime
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The U.S. citizenry will have little say if things spin out of control. If that happens a good possibility exist that things will drop into "auto pilot" mode and just happen.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:33 | 4730516 Oldwood
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Those closest to financial ruin and loss of face and power are always the most desperate and devious. While admittedly they do not seem to demonstrate a lot of intelligence, they have managed to remain in power and through presidential executive orders, aggregate more every fucking day. At this late day almost anything is possible...none of it good.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:23 | 4730142 Hulk
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Does Russia, or any Bankster captured nation for that matter, have enough CO2 credits to get a permit for a thermonuclear war ???

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:26 | 4730149 ObamaDepression
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With all due respect to Dr. Roberts (whom I value on economic discussions), this sounds nutty.

 

Did he really write, "the act will be used by Washington to confirm Washington’s propaganda of a Russian invasion (as in the case of Georgia), and Russia will be further demonized."

So Georgia wasn't invaded? Crimea wasn't invaded? This isn't spin. This is ignoring facts.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:30 | 4730168 Ocean22
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Crimea was not invaded. They voted. It's smarter to be with a GMO free, anti USA , gold loving, resource rich Russia than a dying, spoiled, corrupt, Zionist infested, warmonger tryrant. ( USA )

Get it?

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:02 | 4730266 alentia
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Crimea was a deal struck between Obama and Putin long before Nov 2013.

You may tell someone else that there is voting system in Russia, it never existed.

I wonder what are the benefits of being "anti-USA"?

Trading freedom (or what left of it in USA) to all the imaginary material things Russia can offer is about the same as to spending whole life in prison. We used to compare Russia to "kritka" (enclosed prison compound) back in 1980s, it is what it is.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:03 | 4730267 Wahooo
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Yep. They voted for protection from Russian-hating Ukes and from the EU. And Russia is now guarding its own territory.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:58 | 4730431 rwe2late
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 The invasion story is constantly repeated by the MSM.

I watched just tonight on PBS, Margaret Warner news anchor stating"Putin invaded and annexed Crimea" while showing

a videoclip of marching Russian(?) combat troops. (An obvious implied comparison to invading NAZI soldiers goose-stepping.)

 

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/videos/#101890

(watch about 50 seconds into the clip)

That is followed by an interview with some addle-brained Russian who contends NATO poses no threat to Russia.

The MSM has definitely gone over to the dark side.

 

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:27 | 4730154 Westcoastliberal
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You guys remember Wolfowitz, he's the moron who would lick his comb before running it through what's left of his hair.  And he was/is one of their "smart" ones.  Such depth.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:28 | 4730156 kurt
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Wolfowitz 

PNAC

 

 

 

On a Pike

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:31 | 4730170 crunchyfrog
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And Russia's demise is a bad thing, why? Peter, Catherine, Lenin, Stalin, Putin. Tell me with a straight5 face they're better than either Dubya or Obama.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:49 | 4730221 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Don't know enough about Peter and Catherine. While Lenin was possibly smarter than Dubya or Obama, all three were cut from the same cloth, so no real difference. Stalin was Georgian, not Russian.

Putin? As the only adult in the room, yes, he's way better than Dubya or Obama. As an added bonus, and unlike the other two, he appears to be taking his country's best interests into consideration.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 23:45 | 4730850 Volkodav
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Ignorant post

 

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:38 | 4730187 AdvancingTime
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This is all CRAZY STUPID! Allowing events to deteriorate into a major war or possibly into what some see as World War III is becoming a reality. As insane as it appears this could become the final outcome. The location of this as a military confrontation is right in Putin's backyard and this is a strong advantage for Russia.

It is silly to think Putin and Russia will back down. This means poking the bear is not a smart move. It should be noted the military of Ukraine is divided and extremely weak. More about this subject in the article below.

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/04/war-in-ukraine-bad-idea_26.html

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:55 | 4730235 Pure Evil
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War in Ukraine bad idea.

Wow!

There's a news flash.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 19:42 | 4730201 BrainDead
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The Ukrainian gas bill is due Gazprom on May 7th.  Russia will hold back the troops until at least the 8th pending payment.  Crying for the US/West to take action to halt the violence is a theatrical delay pending payment of the gas bill by the IMF.  If the $3.7 billion gas bill doesn't get paid, then the gas gets shut off.  Germany chokes and the likelihood of Russian tanks immediately rolling into Ukraine increases dramatically.  If the $3.7 billion gas bill does get paid then Germany & the EU breaths awhile longer.  Money talks.  If it appears likely that the anti-Kiev/coup elements will be crushed prior to a scheduled May 11th referendum (or that a referendum would be technical impossible due to safety concerns) then expect Russian tanks to roll into Eastern Ukrainian areas that have declared independence from Kiev as peacekeepers pending referendum results. Otherwise Russia will hold to its Crimea model for Russian speaking districts in Eastern Ukraine.

PCR seems to forget that Russia is stronger in this theater than the US/NATO.  Yes, Washington sees this crisis as an opportunity.  But so does every moneyed, corporate and national interest group on the planet!  The question is who can best exploit the opportunity.  Russia has innumerable options available to it besides the extremes of war and cowardice as demonstrated by their patience and success to date.  That’s not true for the Western interests.

 

Russians are fond to play chess and Americans prefer poker.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 20:47 | 4730396 angel_of_joy
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True about poker, except the Americans don't know when to fold...

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:25 | 4730498 Kirk2NCC1701
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"...when to walk away or when to run." - Kenny Rogers, The Gambler.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 22:51 | 4730740 Obaminator
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Ya dont fold when your holding 4 aces and one queen. lol

M.A.D. - we dont need to fold anymore.

Mon, 05/05/2014 - 21:16 | 4730471 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Why would the savior of the World, the best leader in the world, President for life Putin, deny those in Ukraine who he is trying to save, access to hydrocarbons over something as evil as money?

Putin loves the people of Ukraine. He wants only the best for them and would never, ever, hurt them over money. This post make him sound like some evil scum from the tribe who is only motivated by money. NOT PUTIN, he is the common mans bestest buddy.

Tue, 05/06/2014 - 01:29 | 4730973 socalbeach
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Good post. I thought that Russia said they were going to demand advance payment if their debt was not paid though. That way Ukraine wouldn't have to come up with that much money before the gas gets shut off.

If a referendum doesn't take place, I don't see why Russia doesn't attack the leaders of the junta vs taking over part of E. Ukraine. Or if that's too aggressive or impractical, Russia could arm the separatists with more advanced weapons.  Another option would be to wipe out the Ukranian forces in the East. Is it in Russia's interest right now to take over more territory?  Any ideas?

 

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