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Chinese Vessel Rams Vietnamese Ships Under Air Support; Water Cannon Used
With all eyes firmly focused on WWIII in Ukraine (oh, and don't forget Al Qaeda's pivot to attacking Saudi Arabia), China - as we noted here - decided now was the appropriate time to send an oil rig into Vietnamese (admittedly uncertain) territorial waters. The Vietnamese are not happy and is blasting China this morning after a Chinese vessel intentionally rammed two of its ships. As Reuters reports, the foreign ministry in Hanoi said the collisions took place on Sunday and caused considerable damage to the Vietnamese ships with six people sustaining minor injuries. Vietnam's foreign minister noted, "Chinese ships, with air support, sought to intimidate Vietnamese vessels. Water cannon was used," adding that "Vietnam won't fire unless China fires first." China has not yet responded to the Vietnamese allegations of ramming, but did have this to say, "The United States has no right to complain about China's activities within the scope of its own sovereignty."
As we noted here, China sent an oil rig into disputed Vietnamese waters...
An oil industry official in China said the deployment of the rig owned by China's CNOOC oil company to waters near Vietnam appeared to be a political decision rather than a commercial one.
"This reflected the will of the central government and is also related to the U.S. strategy on Asia," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.
"It is not commercially driven. It is also not like CNOOC has set a big exploration blueprint for the region."
But as Reuters reports, tensions are rising...
Vietnam said on Wednesday a Chinese vessel intentionally rammed two of its ships in a part of the disputed South China Sea where Beijing has deployed a giant oil rig, sending tensions spiraling in the region.
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"On May 4, Chinese ships intentionally rammed two Vietnamese Sea Guard vessels," said Tran Duy Hai, a foreign ministry official and deputy head of Vietnam's national border committee.
"Chinese ships, with air support, sought to intimidate Vietnamese vessels. Water cannon was used," he told a news conference in Hanoi. Six other ships were also hit, other officials said, but not as badly.
Dozens of navy and coastguard vessels from both countries are in the area where China has deployed the giant rig, Vietnamese officials have said.
"No shots have been fired yet," said a Vietnamese navy official, who could not be identified because he was not authorized to speak to media. "Vietnam won't fire unless China fires first."
The US will have to decide if this is a red line being crossed after Obama's recent visit... but China is already putting him straight...
China has not yet responded to the Vietnamese allegations of ramming, but Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said earlier on Wednesday that the deployment of the rig had nothing to do with the United States, or Vietnam.
"The United States has no right to complain about China's activities within the scope of its own sovereignty," she said.
Vietnam concludes for now... we assume knowing the US has its back?
"We are a peace-loving nation that has experienced many wars," he said. "If this situation goes too far, we will use all measures in line with international law to protect our territory. We have limitations, but we will stand up to any Chinese aggression."
So Russia vs US in Ukraine, check! Al Qaeda vs Saudi Arabia, check! China vs Vietnam, check! Must be time for all time highs in stocks!!
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Most Americans dont know that after the US-Vietnam war there was a China-Vietnam war. No love loss between those two for decades.
Audio transcript just released from the ramming. "MAU! MAU! DIDI MAU!"
Stackers: No love lost with them for centuries.
This should be good for another 100 points up on the S&P.
gotta keep those billion zombie slaves busy doing something.
Interesting new principle of international relations! So ... only Syria can complain about Syria? Only Ukraine can complain about Ukraine?
OK, got it! Though, it'll make for a pretty dull week on the 'Hedge....
imo just a different way for China to say: "Uncle Sam! Is Vietnam your ally? No? Then buzz off to your sphere of influence"
as such, not a new principle of international relations
I can't believe that you (and 2 others...so far) are so obtuse, Ghordius!
If China is suggesting that nobody has a right to comment on its "activities" within its area of "sovereignty" (with such "sovereignty" hotly disputed in this case), then consistency would dictate that nobody has a right to complain about Russia's [military] activities within its own borders; or Assad's activities within his own borders; or, indeed, any country's activities within its own borders ("scope of sovereignty").
No need to introduce your usual straw men into the argument, Ghordius, ("ally", and "sphere of influence", in this instance). It's a bad habit that you have had since your very first days on here.
Ooo man! You are stacked!
Bwaaahahaha!
Decades? Ha! Centuries man, centuries!
The US has already been involved in the Vietnam War, Korean War and WW2 (Japan) and has made these countries their allies even after they forced their way into their business and stationed troops over there permanently.....and now these countries are stupid enough to think that the US has their backs...
The US has all of its allies' backs covered. With a knife...
AM gold reversal?
I'm holding my breath.
RT just posted this video and this clearly looks to be more about the usual whale wars stuff that is always going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjSyf66Evy4
NOT THE WATER CANON!!!
brutal...
before you know it... this will escalte into a massive waterbaloon fight...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cl3VEyseLc&feature=player_detailpage#t=...
That's just a start, never forget---and unlike everyone else---back in February and oh-so-quietly, the US allowed Vietnam to enrich its own uranium, of course for peaceful purposes
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread999502/pg1
Nukes have been the greatest tool mankind has ever had to stop and prevent wars. The USSA and USSR would definitely gone to WWIII and it was the nukes that prevented it.
It's all going so swimingly well, of course until it doesn't and some *sshat in charge pulls the trigger. Then we are all collectively are screwed 100x worse.
Yeah and with all the tech flying around, its pretty dam easy for mistakes to happen. Expensive mistakes (cue Krugman)
Captain pisses off the bow of a ship in the OCEAN, FOX News call's Urination a national event,...
Pretty fucking thin hey?
Must be a closed news day, in the mean time 100's were murdered today in UKRAINE, and elsewhere.
Get over it Unicorn's, men URINATE with their dicks, and unicorns SIT on their throne.
Progressive women URINATE men dicks. Point?
Greeks have better war > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y891T4ge7j4
With 7.3 billion people on this planet and resources getting scarcer, conflicts will break out everywhere. Especially in Asia which has the highest population.
a nice billion on billion war between inda and china would be entertaining.
thank god for oceans.
DOW +100ish kinda news here! Wheee!!
Should be good for 100 dollar drop in Gold.
John Kerry needs another Purple Heart....send him in ..he can scratch himself loading his water pistol...and write up his own form
Timmy Geithnerererer (representing the deep state) was just in China meeting with high Chinese gov officials........looks like we are moving to a 'tri-lateral' world..this was all planned right after Lehman took a crap...Russia and China will have more control over their respective 'backyards'.........Rickards SDR wet dream will be realty..
You think Timmy is a player ?
When a Rothchild goes there, let us know.
wake up man........one does get to run the NYFED/Treasury Dept unless one is a player
Timmy is a spokesman/errand boy for the deep state.......
Obama was just in MALAYSIA a few days ago promising that if the IRS could see MALAY bank account's that every pedophile in MALAY could download the GAY-EDGAR-HOOVER pedo-files for free, ... now to say the least , ... the USA now had the MALAY banks by the USD.
Send Sen. McrazyCain..
Send in Oflamba.
Those Chinese are such pests. Poke. Poke. Poke.
They have a billion people to waste..why not....poke poke poke..whats a few million
Ukraine failed, Putin unwilling to take the bait, so now it’s time to destroy Vietnam? Sound about right? Let’s take a second crack at killing the Vietnamese; we didn’t do a good enough job in the 60's. Whatever it takes to get a war started and save the dollar ruined by Obama, Bernanke and the corrupt bankers on Wall Street!
You had me up until 'Obama' the destruction of the dollar started long before him.
Yeah, but he's mulatto, bisexual, and a Democrat.
The 7 trillion in debt in the past 5 years isn't Obamas reponsibility?
no. it's not. get over it.
I remember years ago RAYGUN or BUSH 'invaded' GRENADA, it was a proud day, USA the most powerful nation on earth, had kicked ass on a nation of 110 souls that had a collective IQ of 90, and a total budget of $120 USD.
Now as then we can be proud that we be AmeriKKKan's, so the Chinese are now immitating OUR stupid arrogant SHEET, ... who could have guessed?
As I recall, The US invaded Grenada to protect American ethnics at an offshoere medical school from Cubans who were building a runway.
Here, watch the movie. Clint Eastwood, kicking ass. Gots Gangstas in it, too. War is soooooo cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbreak_Ridge
I was there in Nah Trang last week. People fear the Chinos. No shit! They view us as their savior.. Gold is selling like hot cakes
GOLD has been selling like HOTCAKES in Vietnam for what now 3+ years with 50% annual inflation? Shit, the gubmint has pretty much put the lid on gold, ... but VIETNAM hyper-inflation has nothing to do with grabbing these oil fields.
This is a new deal,... I still say that CHINA/GERMANY has MORE to offer ASIA in developing these OFFSHORE wells' than what the CIA/mOSSAD is offering. ( death ).
Wait until they find out Bath House Barry's idea of "having your back" is trying to bugger your bunghole!
Who's 'us' pachanguido?
//The Chinese economy is heading down fast, thus the action against the Philipines and Vietnam. Stir up a regional war and put all those dumb Chinks to work making bullets to get them damn Viets and Pinoys!! WW3 is beginning to look like a reality. I was so hopeful after the Berlin wall fell......
We won't fire unless China fires first, but they can ram the shit out of us all they want.... lol.
And yet another example of that wonderful "evolved" species known as the humans. I am pretty sure that if there is intelligent life elsehwere i the universe and it monitors things going on this rock that it does nothing but laugh at the sheer idiocy of the humans and how they squabble oevr such stupid crap.
Pathetic how humans just can't quit fugging with each other and live in peace. Some "highly intelligent" and again, "evolved" species...
A universal premise is that 'they' would come and meet us.... NOT
If an intelligent planet/system found a world similar to EARTH (USA HEGEMONY) they would enter that system/state into the database as "BORING/been there done that".
If you found a colony of Cockroaches that raped one one another in your basement would you ...
1.) study them?
2.) educate them?
3.) Eliminate them ( insecticide )
4.) bring them home and learn from them?
I think that only the complete fucking idiot moron would pick #4, 99.999% of survivable species would pick 3
#4 Represents our heritage. For you, though, I'd buy a one-way ticket home forever.
Humans have a choice. Was it divine intervention that compelled Michelangelo (1475 -1564) to climb up a scaffold in 1508 to begin the painting of the Sistine Chapel ceiling? I believe he captured this choice.
Strive to be close to God or be an Animal.
Picking up a paycheck may have guided that decision more than God.
Popular opinion has it that God's payout only occurs at 'end of term'.
Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Even though humans will fall short on earth, God expects humans to create heaven on earth to the best of our abiliries. All divine driven religions imply this. In fact, I believe this will be the judgment test at "end of term" for all religions. I do not know the mind of God, but I believe the animals are winning.
Humans have always felt a burning desire to enslave each other, first with iron chains and now with the invisible chains of debt.
I blame opposable thumbs.
How do you stop a globalist? Wait.
NATO uses mercenaries to protect globalist interests and China uses citizens that are fighting to protect the Fatherland. My bet is on Xi.
Everyone hates the globalists. Long live everyone.
PRC gambles USG is too tied up in Ukraine!
Vlad: "Xi, now would be a good time to distract Bath House."
Xi: Possibly. He is running out of those red lines."
Vlad: "He gives great head!"
Xi "You got some, too?"
"We are a peace-loving nation that has experienced many wars", he said
Brilliant double-speak. This guy will go far.
How many wars had Vietnam as the aggressor? If you are the one being attacked, war isn't really a choice, is it?
"How many wars had Vietnam as the aggressor?"
At least one where the commies up north invaded the south.
Didn't the French start that war?
<-- North Vietnamese commies threw the first punch
<-- French threw the first punch
Chinese claims on the south china sea are just ridiculous. The countries around it are just too stupid and have been way too slow to organize themselfs to take a stand against china.
http://maps.baidu.com/
This is how china sees the world map.
The chinese are greedy and dont value life above profits. If a chinese local official sees the opportunity to upgrade his mercedes SL to an SLS he will not hesitate to sell his own mother to achieve it. They wouldnt care if they polluted the whole south china sea as long as they can extract enough oil to keep on driving their SUVs for a little longer.
Stupid fuckers the SPANISH claimed those water's 500 years ago
The USA claimed those water's 100 years ago, ... do the people who live their actualy think they have a voice in this shit?
Missed some of the islands around Korea(s) and Japan but the area claimed is what china keeps now in its military and economic sphere of control. This is China's Black Sea.
"As we noted here, China sent an oil rig into disputed Vietnamese waters..."
Are we sure the Chinese oil rig is not a disguised search vessel looking for MH370 off the coast of Vietnam?
Already posted today, the OIL rig in question, is owned and paid for by GERMANY,... so as always what you have is a pissing match between two colonial powers on who get's to fuck the local's first.
The good news is that this is all BULLSHIT, the bad news is that UINCORN's and USA TV watchers will eat this bile, ...
Back to UKRAINE? I think not, the last thing OBAMA want's is you to think about ODESSA and his work there, ...
"Are we sure the Chinese oil rig is not a disguised search vessel looking for MH370 off the coast of Vietnam?"
Like a GSF-Explorer 2.0?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSF_Explorer
Exactly like that.
Maybe it is MH370 disguised as an oil rig.
In last Viet-China war, Vietnamese used glass bombs and chemical weapons, such acts are so anti-geneva.
China has billions to feed...and they really have nothing..so they are going to take as much as they can...and they will until someone stops them....
you must be a moron or just totally geopoliticially ignorant. I think both!
China has always valued acreage without value of the rights of the individual. Russia too.
Of course, the West doesn't value property rights over human rights. If you believe that, it's time to move to Mars.
Please change the TITLE POST ...
"Cass Sunstein RAM's OBAMA, ANAL BLOOD FLOODS WASH-DC, 1,000's Die of HIV" ...
There fixed the title,
Serco? What's for dinner? Chip's or Curry?
grab some soap make a shower out of it.
Didn't we just have a discussion regarding 'brute force' the other day? Granted on a smaller peon level related to if there was a total collapse what goods your gold going to do if someone with no morals whatsoever decides to blow your head off and take it and your daughter back to their place.
Wel if you are stupid enough to have gold and no means of protecting it then well you will fail. China should think long and hard about that...
Chinese is copying everything japanese have been doing to them.
Oops! Sorry you found the sea mines I left off the Paracells. Better luck next time, comades!
Wi yu hayt mi?
It's all just a training exercise folks.
I love how China says STFU to the US.
OldE_Ant
Back to your regularly scheduled dumbing down the populace programming.
The end game must be close as team China/Russia are doing what they need to do to dismantle the criminals in DC/London/EU.
This is a coordinated multi-front assault on the criminals.
Exactly, the strategy is to spread the West thin to faster facilitate its crumble.
And break the US's alliance with Australia and New Zealand...
Australia is NEVER going to support a war on China because of their proximity and their economic ties.
The UK does not have the money or the power to aid the US in a multi front war. And Canada is just for show...
"The United States has no right to complain about China's activities within the scope of its own sovereignty."
http://youtu.be/_84-A3LT0Lo
"You sunk my [oil rig]."
You see? The u.s. walks around like a punk and china starts acting like one too
It's become clear to the Chinese and Russians that the USA no longer has the political will, or the money, to police the world as thoroughly as it once did. Both of these countries will make calculated risks to advance their own geopolitical agendas hitherto considered impossible due to the USA's military force.
One more severe economic downturn, particularly one that compromises the word oil industry's ability to continue exploration and extraction, and the USA will move rather rapidly to 2nd or even 3rd world status. It could be argued that much of rural America is already there.
Decline. Meet the USA.
Rural America remains First World. Urban is toast.
Funny how some see the world.
Rural America has the food, acreage and the guns to protect it. Some of us have loads of oil and gas as well.
The cities have subways, museums and a million starving wolves if /when we decide sending food is not in our best interests.
It's true we simple folk are neighborly to a fault but that feeling doesn't cover a lot of geography if push comes to shove.
"We are a peace-loving nation that has experienced many wars", he said
Brilliant double-speak. This guy will go far.
Did oil have anything to do with the Vietnam war?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_oil_have_anything_to_with_the_Vietnam_war#...
This is just China telling the rest of Asia: "Who's your daddy now?!"
In English: "The DC US is broke, and though not quite gone, they might as well be. As a result, this shit here is ours, and so is that shit over there. Capiche?!"
Both ships had women driving. And we all know how well south asian women do behind the wheel.
Awww! Isn't that cute! The Panda wants to be like the stuffed bear.
Meanwhile, Shinto shrines are seeing more foot traffic than ever and Japan is quietly taking off the training wheels.
Haha
Clazy Amelicans.
We eat you pig.
You say "Thank you Mr.China."
Yeah Right....the joint naval operation with China and Russia is just routine...
Remember, everything is different this time.
Murrika should get ready for a new war in Vietnam. Nothing could possibly go wrong this time.
China to USA:
Pivot on this!
Its like the spinning basket trick!
Me love you long time.